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14/07/2024
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I used to listen to engineer and was going in the wrong direction then I met Adnan Rashid and I thanked God I found the right person
Don't find a right person ....find a right path brother....search on what path Adnan Rashid is and follow the path
Adnan saying Ammar ibn Yasir r.a killed by Muavia r.a "according to them" as if it is not true. Wallahi Adnan you have exposed yourself now.
For the truth seekers here is the reference:
Musnad Ahmad 12347
@@tariquekhan7594 yes you are right for correcting me
@@shahid_saiyed I didn't say a word about it and you just implied. This is how your senses work. Blaming a person without even listening. Shame on you
@@user-si9mj2yi3z ... No brother don't make Aqeedah According to people Instead do it according to Quran and Sunnah ... For Instance I am giving you some references of Hadith regarding Ameer e Shaam vs Maula Ali A.s ... Check them out
Sahi Bukhari: 2812 (Musnad Ahmed 12347... Regarding details of 2812). ,, 4108 ,, 4827,, 3748
Sahi Muslim: 4776 : 6628 , 6220 ,, 6229 ,, 6225 to 6228,,
Read and then tell me ..
I used to listen Mirza. But one day I caught him red-handed manipulating the hadith. Then I start Cross checking his given refrences in the light of Quran and ahadith. and, I concluded that Mirza is master of manipulating hadith text and it's meaning. So that he afraid to sit with scholars because they know his fraud that ordenery people not able to judge
Please share the clip and help us
@@mianhaseeb7945 There are lots of but you can search for.. Engineer saying hazart ayesha Zalim and showing a reference for Psychological deception for blind followers and that Narration is not only Daeef but Zalim word not present in the text.
Also share which Hadiths we was talking about 😂
Brother I don't know in what disease you are in right now .. maybe the Viruses of Nasbiyat is injected I you in a great detail ...
I never found and wrong reference from Engineer Muhammad Ali ❤
For sure I check more critically then you
@@mujahideislam8301okay what about Qaidiani are they in unmah 😂😂😂 anwser it please the actual ummah not the ummah te daghwah please let see you found engineer wrong or not and my second question is that a woman who is treated well and her every necessity is completed so can she divorce her husband you so called illami kitabi said that a woman can also divorce her husband without any legitimate reason so what do you say i want straight answer not twister okay we both know that is engineer stance
I feel the student of engineer mirza is more courageous than engineer himself. Atleast he's not afraid to debate unlike engineer mirza who hasn't even debated a single scholar in his lifetime. Lol
What are the benefits of debate? I know many people debated but nothing concluded they still follow their own things and sects
What are you gonna say in a debate which you can't say in video recording. 😂
@@ishaqthkr Because when face to face debate happens every thing become clear who is on right or wrong that why engineer plumber runs away from debate. 😂😂😂😂
@@farazali1038 he doesn't run away, he wants debate with your leaders not chotus, and he always said they won't come out which Barelvi mufti Muneeb Rehman proved his point, so if you're gonna tag the coward tag please have the guts to do it for all. And may Allah show you the path to Quran and Sunnah instead of debates
@ishaqthkr who the F**** is mirza for wanting to debate the top scholars? He is not even Alim him self, but yea mirza qadiyani used to say the same thing. Chota mirza is following the footsteps of his father, mirza qadiyani. Dono mirzon or inkey maney walo pey LANAAAAT beshumaar.
The damage has been done
PIumber ki dukan band 😂
😂😂😂
@@JimmyJhonny The Damage has been done
In England where tales are spun
U.K. shoppers face the gloom
And hope can alway bloom
Qabar pujari ki dukan band 😂😂😂
@@airxeditz the biggest qabr pujari are the Rawāfidh which Ali PIlumber never speaks about. Khomeini has the biggest qabr masoulem in the whole world where all the qabr pujaris come to worship him
@@JimmyJhonny shia and Barelvi same qabar pujari
When you become bookish
Then cultural Muslims can't bear it
😂yeah you got it right
Be the bookish Muslim. That’s the best thing to do.
LOL, You are bookish without knowing arabic.
Chullu bar paani main doob maro.
Nope...when u just challenge and run away from debates
@@al-hasan4740 so what you think how many hours need to prove jahil someone, if someone prove jahil you need to walk away from him
Engineer is against the boycotting of Israel product continuously speaking against Jihaad of Hamas and yet he is the biggest custodian of IMaM Hussain Nauzubillah
Actually madkhalis are doing the same but atleast they dont claim they are hussainis
@@cuttingstitching-dressmaki3016
Exactly he is so confused...
Do you boycott products from mslims regimes too?
@@Luciferis666-s1j
I hv no time to battle with egos and small mind.
@@Lotus259 So how you like sudan? Millions of chldren are about to die becouse of what and who and why? You boycott Sudan?
We should boycott Engineer Mirza
mirza pakistan men zaleel ho rha ha and his followers here in London😂😂
Nice try 😉
@@ggjj-lt3sm more like the ol’ babeys are getting zaleel hence they get their uneducated lackeys to kill him
Sahi kaha😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
@@ggjj-lt3sm zaleel are the useless pirs and so called scholars hence why they want him killed 😂
I used to listen to engineer but then I found out that in his recitation of Qur'an and its translation, there are are grave errors.
So please my friends if you want to listen to engineer then at least cross check it, for your own sake
I am very disappointed by Brother Adnan's comments. It seems he was trying to criticize Engineer Mirza without fully understanding his teachings and manifesto.
1. **Hidden Knowledge:** Scholars have not adequately educated us about the status and love for the Ahl al-Bayt (family of the Prophet). For example, I challenge anyone to show a link or khutba where a hadith is shared about the curse (lanat) being called on the Lion of Islam.
2. **Terminology:** It is the Ahl al-Hadith who use the term "Mamoo," not Engineer Ali Mirza.
3. **Ridicule:** You attempted to ridicule Engineer Mirza student for wearing black and insinuated that he might be a Shia. This was inappropriate. And it’s sunnah to wear Black.
4. **Criticism of Scholars:** Engineer Mirza's critique is not directed at all old baba’s scholars but specifically at those who have failed to properly teach the Qur'an and Hadith to Muslims.
It appears that you have not thoroughly studied Engineer Mirza's work and have only seen clips. We urge you to understand his teachings better before forming opinions. Your portrayal suggests you may harbor some bias or animosity (bughz or nasbiyyat) that needs to be addressed.
Jazak Allah Khair.
Another blundering, Elmi Kitabi dose not mean the students of Ali Mirza must know Arabic, their term means only the references from Quran and Sahi Hadith are to be accepted and should be considered learning 1st.
He became Khalifa by power and sword:
Several Sunni classical scholars have held nuanced views regarding the status of Muawiya ibn Abi Sufyan as a legitimate caliph. Some of them include:
1. **Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal**: Although he maintained a generally respectful stance towards the Sahabah (companions of the Prophet), he is reported to have avoided explicitly naming Muawiya as a righteous caliph in the same manner as the first four caliphs (Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, and Ali).
2. **Al-Tabari**: The historian and exegete Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari, in his works, presented a detailed account of early Islamic history that included critical perspectives on Muawiya's rise to power and his actions during and after the First Fitna (the first Islamic civil war).
3. **Ibn Hazm**: Although Ibn Hazm generally upheld Muawiya’s status as a Sahabi, he did not equate his caliphate with the rightly guided caliphate of the Rashidun, maintaining that Muawiya’s rule was more of a kingship rather than a continuation of the initial caliphate.
4. **Al-Jahiz**: The theologian and writer Al-Jahiz expressed critical views about Muawiya, highlighting the political and military strategies he used, which were sometimes seen as contradictory to the principles of the Rashidun caliphs.
5. **Al-Mawardi**: In his work "Al-Ahkam al-Sultaniyya" (The Ordinances of Government), Al-Mawardi outlines the principles of Islamic governance and caliphate without giving Muawiya the same status as the Rashidun caliphs, emphasizing the deviation from the ideal caliphate model after Ali.
6. **Ibn Kathir**: While Ibn Kathir generally adopted a balanced approach in his historical works, he did not shy away from recounting the controversies and conflicts associated with Muawiya’s rule, including his role in the Battle of Siffin and the establishment of the Umayyad dynasty.
7. **Al-Suyuti**: In his historical accounts, Al-Suyuti acknowledges Muawiya’s political acumen but does not rank him among the rightly guided caliphs, noting the shift from the caliphate to hereditary monarchy with the advent of the Umayyad rule.
8. **Ibn Khaldun**: The renowned historian and sociologist Ibn Khaldun, in his "Muqaddimah" (Prolegomena), discusses the transformation of the caliphate into a dynastic kingship with the Umayyads, beginning with Muawiya. He differentiates between the ideal caliphate and the subsequent forms of governance.
9. **Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani**: Although Ibn Hajar is known for his hadith scholarship, in his historical writings, he critically addresses the political maneuvers of Muawiya and the resulting implications for Islamic governance.
10. **Al-Dhahabi**: The historian Al-Dhahabi, while recognizing Muawiya as a companion, provides a detailed account of the political disputes and civil strife during his rule, portraying the complexity of his leadership without unequivocally endorsing his caliphate as righteous.
These scholars contribute to a nuanced understanding of Muawiya’s caliphate within Sunni tradition, acknowledging his role in Islamic history while often distinguishing his rule from the earlier, more idealized period of the Rashidun caliphs.
ChatGpt copy and paste? Ridiculous jahil students of Ali mirza Deviant 🤡🤫🤭
Bring mirza out of his cage. We don’t need his soldiers defending him. Bring the guy.
My dear brother,
First, let me ask you, what contributions have you made to the propagation of other schools of thought? The Ahmadis are stronger than ever, setting up booths in the West and providing free lectures to non-Muslims. Have their own TV network.
The Barelvis have developed a significant political ideology alongside the TLP, and also tv channels.
Deobandis, through the Tablighi Jamaat, are spreading their message globally and establishing mosques worldwide.
These groups have been active and impactful for over a century. What have you achieved in comparison?
If I am mistaken in assuming you follow the Ahl al-Hadith or Salafi manhaj, please correct me.
As for bringing the Mirza out of his "cage," such a notion is unnecessary. You are welcome to join his lectures or engage in discussions with him at his academy. However, demanding a direct debate is asking for too much.
Firstly, who do you propose to debate with him? Do you have a similar number of subscribers or the same audience reach as his channel?
Secondly, we are not merely his soldiers ; we are soldiers of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). We uphold the truth and will critique even our own Mirza if he errs. This is the principle he instills in us.
The guy is already accessible; you need only engage with his content. However, I doubt you can effectively do so, as he transcends sectarian affiliations and identifies simply as a Muslim.
I hope inshallah this addresses your concerns.
@@yasirazim8464 why can’t mirza come out his room? Is he disabled or something. The reason why we want him to come out his room is to dismantle his one sided narrative. He is seating is his room developing his own narrative while manipulating his follower who cannot see through him unfortunately. He is far from real world and in fantasy world you can cook anything and believe it to be true. That’s the problem with his followers. Why you guys run away from discussion so much? Our main problem with engineer mirza is who the hell are you? We have been asking him this last 10 years. Are you an Alim, are you a researcher, are you a student of a scholar…. The guy is a terminated case, his arguments have zero basis of any kind. He is just yapping all the time. But he doesn’t want anyone to point mistakes of his yapping also. That’s all we trying to do, it’s not a debate at all. Debate is with knowledgeable people of some kind. We are trying to help the poor guy there is something seriously wrong with him. If he doesn’t want to get any help there is nothing we can do about it. At max what we can do is try to show to his followers he is a yapper but that’s the sole reason why always runs away. You are in a state of blind conformity of mirza so it’s pointless to argue with you because you will not change even if you were proven wrong that’s why we say bring him out of his cage so at minimum we can save you guys. And that’s our contribution and effort for deen. As for mirza he is a deceiver just like ghulam mirza was a deceiver. But qadianis defend him with all their heart. Same thing happened to you guys. You will unstoppable keep defending him. May Allah heal your heart and free you from stubborn follower ship of a misguided individual as indeed its one of the great disease of heart
Ali se mohabbat nahi rakhega magar Moumin, Ali se bugz nahi rakhega magar munaafiq " ~ Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W)
Sahih Muslim, Hadith No. 240
this has nothing to do with this argument but let me tell you that we love Ali (a.s) more than our forefathers, don't be ignorant answer sheik adnan rashid's argument, why did hasan a.s gave bayah to muaviya r.a??
Ali is in Jannah , Muawiyah is in Jannah but the Rawafidh are in hellfire
@@niceman7535 Ye video deko ruclips.net/video/51Rgcq4iEdM/видео.html _Or bhai mujay koi interst nai Adnan rashid vs mirza ke studient me dont worry
@@niceman7535 Jin k babo ne apne nam k kalmay parwaye hon on se kia debate or deefa b krte hai
@@MidHigh178 aplog ne ye ratliya hai kya? Apna dimagh istemaal karo bhai apni is delusional dunya se bahar aao
Engineer ke student ke sath bhi engineer wali he ho gai
Adnan saying Ammar ibn Yasir r.a killed by Muavia r.a "according to them" as if it is not true. Wallahi Adnan you have exposed yourself now.
For the truth seekers here is the reference:
Musnad Ahmad 12347
@@RanaUsmanAfzal ruclips.net/video/ElCE_XVeMHk/видео.htmlsi=8_4f__VmnIdh_XWg
@@nabeelahmad_ So as per Masnad Ahmed 12347, what's the status of Muawiya, according to you and your Engineer??
Be brave take a clear stance, stop beating around the bush.
Hassan knew all this and much more than you and your beloved do, but he still pledged his allegiance to muawiya. So, whats you fatwa on Hassan now??, mufti sahab.
@@RanaUsmanAfzal first ask your Mufti Adnan to apologise and accept that Muawia r.a killed Ammar bin yasir r.a then I'll tell further 😉
@@nabeelahmad_ Bs ilmi kitabi sahab nikal gai hawa..yhi haal tumhari darling ka hae. Neem mullah khatra eman
To all Engg students urdu&hindi speaking : don't think due to Adnan speaking English he is Goraaa(white) and don't know about Islam - He eats daily tons of Engg in Speakers conrner 😂
You are funny
Brother Adnan is beast ❤. Mashaa Allah.
He still weak brother
Haha joke aside he is just debating with a naive guy talking about authenticity and asking him to mention what he talks about from the Quran and hadees this is all talk makes me laugh
Allegations he doesn't know about Arabic can't read Arabic is just laughable these people live in there own world
✅ Well I can clearly see adnan was constantly running from those hadeeths and targetting that young man on the basis of his knowledge and questioning the knowledge of the Mohammad Ali and claiming that you don't know mafoom etc ,if somebody don't know maths does it makes the fact of 2plus2 =4 wrong , bullshit excuses which people make in Pakistan and India too ,to run away the topic , and i amaze how adnan was well Informed about Engeneer Mohammad Ali like the details of his speech and slogans , this shows that man has enough impact on those who were against him , his field is different and he is 1 tenth to Mohammad Ali in Khilafah knowledge and understanding it's context and circumstances of history too , he claims that Engeneer Mohammad Ali sit in a box so that's the hikmah of Allah almighty that lakhs of people came to real tawheed and Allah almighty is shahid that he gave me hidayah through Mohammad Ali of youth club and Knowledge and understanding of Deen through ENGENEER Mohammad Ali and many more will come to real tawheed inshallah Allah almighty has taken a huge work from him I think adnan got some clips from the people of his own category to defame him but the knowledge of Mohammad Ali is a vast sea if you don't believe than see the content on RUclips check last 14 years of Qur'an classes , ilmi and tehqiqi majalis playlist his channels where he focuses on only hidayah topics majorly, his podcasts , his live Question sessions, life story of people sessions , and how dare he questioned the Ahlul bait alayhisalam on Sulah Al Hasan , and shouting saheeh saheeh hadees , but finally when adnan said moawiyah was one of khulafa , i was clarified from which khema he has came from , if you people can't believe see the whole vedeo ✅, in whole of adnan's foolish discussion he only blaims Sayyiduna Imam Al Hassan alayhisalam for his decision but Sulah Al Hasan is a different topics the young boy was claiming moawiyah bin abi sufyan for his evil and his greed for power , again when adnan was getting that now talk is going into the favour of that young boy on the topic of adnan's claim of moawiyah bin abi sufyan was one of khulafa he instantly cut the discussion there as mentioned by Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wasallam that Khilafah of prophecy will be only for 30 years ,
The Prophet (ﷺ) said: The Caliphate of Prophecy will last thirty years; {Sunan Abi Dawud 4646}
Al-Khilafah will be in my Ummah for thirty years, then there will be monarchy after that.
Sa'eed said: "I said to him: 'Banu Umaiyyah claim that the Khilafah is among them.' He said: 'Banu Az-Zarqa' lie, rather they are a monarchy, among the worst of monarchies. {Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2226}
At last I appreciate Andan's work for Deen keep it up 🙌
Adnan does not give a single chance to allow engineer student to tell his arguments.
This is totally unfair.
This is level of jhalat of adnan
Engineer also running from debates many times
Adnan is using his sharp speaking to win the debate, his logics are totally illogical.
@@mejunaidsaqilike junior mirza😂?
@@mejunaidsaqi😂😂😂 aise he lagta hai
Tariq Masood Sahab Laughing in the corner! 😅😅
Brother Adil keep slamming the culprits of Deen e Mohammed peace be upon him….mirza’s cult
Na mai Babi, na mai Kitabi.
Mai hoon Mirza pakka fasadi
@moeed; Na me babi to sai bola ap ne . Na me kitabi kue bola dont worry i correct you ; Na me wahabi na me babi me hon muslim ilmikitabi
@@MidHigh178
na yai ilmi na yai kitabi
mirza hai banda jahal o fasadi
@@MidHigh178 agr babi ni Hy to Islami secularism kehny ke daleel Islam se deta yeh na kehta k mery bazurgo ne islami jamhoriyat ke term Dee Mai islami secularism ke term dey Raha Hain , ess k bazurg agr kutta khayen to yeh kahy ga k kyon k unho ne kutta khaya ess liye Mai pig khaa Raha hon
@@MidHigh178... Don't correct these Blind 🦮 they don't understand this soft language ...
Give them
حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْمُثَنَّى الْعَنَزِيُّ ح و حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ بَشَّارٍ وَاللَّفْظُ لِابْنِ الْمُثَنَّى قَالَا حَدَّثَنَا أُمَيَّةُ بْنُ خَالِدٍ حَدَّثَنَا شُعْبَةُ عَنْ أَبِي حَمْزَةَ الْقَصَّابِ عَنْ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ قَالَ كُنْتُ أَلْعَبُ مَعَ الصِّبْيَانِ فَجَاءَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَتَوَارَيْتُ خَلْفَ بَابٍ قَالَ فَجَاءَ فَحَطَأَنِي حَطْأَةً وَقَالَ اذْهَبْ وَادْعُ لِي مُعَاوِيَةَ قَالَ فَجِئْتُ فَقُلْتُ هُوَ يَأْكُلُ قَالَ ثُمَّ قَالَ لِيَ اذْهَبْ فَادْعُ لِي مُعَاوِيَةَ قَالَ فَجِئْتُ فَقُلْتُ هُوَ يَأْكُلُ فَقَالَ لَا أَشْبَعَ اللَّهُ بَطْنَهُ قَالَ ابْنُ الْمُثَنَّى قُلْتُ لِأُمَيَّةَ مَا حَطَأَنِي قَالَ قَفَدَنِي قَفْدَةً
محمد بن مثنیٰ عنزی اور ابن بشار نے ہمیں حدیث بیان کی ۔۔۔ الفاظ ابن مثنیٰ کے ہیں ۔۔۔ دونوں نے کہا : ہمیں امیہ بن خالد نے حدیث بیان کی ، انہوں نے کہا : ہمیں شعبہ نے ابوحمزہ قصاب سے حدیث بیان کی ، انہوں نے حضرت ابن عباس رضی اللہ عنہما سے روایت کی ، کہا : میں لڑکوں کے ساتھ کھیل رہا تھا کہ اچانک رسول اللہ ﷺ تشریف لے آئے ، میں دروازے کے پیچھے چھپ گیا ، کہا : آپ آئے اور میرے دونوں شانوں کے درمیان اپنے کھلے ہاتھ سے ہلکی سی ضرب لگائی ( مقصود پیار کا اظہار تھا ) اور فرمایا :’’ جاؤ ، میرے لیے معاویہ کو بلا لاؤ ۔‘‘ میں نے آپ سے آ کر کہا : وہ کھانا کھا رہے ہیں ۔ آپ نے دوبارہ مجھ سے فرمایا :’’ جاؤ ، معاویہ کو بلا لاؤ ۔‘‘ میں نے پھر آ کر کہا : وہ کھانا کھا رہے ہیں ، تو آپ نے فرمایا :’’ اللہ اس کا پیٹ نہ بھرے ۔‘‘
ابن مثنیٰ نے کہا : میں نے امیہ سے پوچھا : «حطانی» کا کیا معنی ہے ؟ تو انھوں نے کہا : مجھے ایک تھپکی دی ۔
Sahih Muslim#6628
کتاب: حسن سلوک‘صلہ رحمی اور ادب
Adnan saying Ammar ibn Yasir r.a killed by Muavia r.a "according to them" as if it is not true. Wallahi Adnan you have exposed yourself now.
For the truth seekers here is the reference:
Musnad Ahmad 12347
Ma sha Allah . Eng mirza the modern fitin hidden rafihda should be refuted like this . Adnan is good at it ❤
Like that, hidden Rafidah!
Shut up Nasbi ,Yazidi
Yeah person who speaks truth from sahih ahadiths and quran and qoutes great muhaditheens like imam muslim and imam bukhari is a fitin and and not this Adnan Rashid.. yeah right...lol.and moreover why didn't Adnan Rashid challenged engineer mirza or even have a discussion with him when he was in Pakistan, in jhelum just not so long ago? Why was je behaving like a scardy cat back then....
@@mohammedshoaib-tq6hb 😚ilmi kitaabi first read bhukari and muslim
@@mohammedshoaib-tq6hbwe already saw mant time engineer runs, away. He says
Ami nai mana kia hai😂
Not a fan of Engineer Mirza but that was rude when the speaker said "Shutup" to him... Secondly he must focus on addressing the problem, rather than dehumanising scholarship of Mirza Jhelumi... The boy was actually saying that things about Muawiya (RA) are clearly written in Sihaah Sitaah but the scholars do not publicly revealthose Ahadis... And thats correct!
Such as Sahih Muslim 4776
Go debate Adnan then
This doesn't make sense. If someone didn't tell then its your responsibility to read and research by yourself. So shut up if you don't know .
Bukhari-2812 test whether you want to follow the Prophet SAWW or your Mullah
BUKHARI 2924
@@user-wk3jo1pc8mhow can u contradict Prophet's words.. Be logical atleast
Yeah what's your point? Ia that all your knowledge? 😂 Ilmi qitabi! By your logic the entire ummah was gumrah You're the first actual Muslims after the sahabas. The hadith you are talking about was reported by a baba and was later studied by babas and it got translated by babas who followed babas (imams) other wise you wouldn't have been able to even read the hadith. Stop disrespecting the ulamas. You and your engineer's knowledge nothing compered to them.
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@@AbuTalha-gs3bvgood catch 😊
Bukhari 2800 read it also
آج سمجھ لگی ہے کہ مرزہ کو اتنے دنوں سے آگ کیوں لگی ہوی ہے۔
According to Mirza i mean the engineer not the Gulam mirza
Eng. Mirza said recently Qaidiani are also in Actual ummah 😂 so called ilmy kitabi
Did he really say that?
@@Trust-Islamno pls watch the full video with context...
He said on the day of judgement qadiyani and the other sect (whether kafir or not who consider themselves to be muslim) organs will glow (the hadith bukhari-organ will glow then in pul sirat they will be cut off)... He himself called Ghulam Ahmad qadiyani dajjal
@@farazali1038 please don't speak out of context he never said that
@@Trust-Islam yeah mirza considers QAIDIANI'S ahl e kitab, he said of all the sects of ummah of rasoolullah (saw) the qaidiani's will also fell into jahanum when they will cross the pul e sirat. Thus making qaidiani's a part of ummah and a deviant sect within this ummah. He always labels them "hanafis" pejoratively i think bcz he hates hanafis of pakistan. He is a vile and gumrah person.
@@skabdurrahim9158@Trust-Islam yeah mirza considers QAIDIANI'S ahl e kitab, he said of all the sects of ummah of rasoolullah (saw) the qaidiani's will also fell into jahanum when they will cross the pul e sirat. Thus making qaidiani's a part of ummah and a deviant sect within this ummah. He always labels them "hanafis" pejoratively i think bcz he hates hanafis of pakistan. He is a vile and gumrah person.
Wasted 57 minutes of my life.
Mirza students just make mockery to their selves ..
Adnan saying Ammar ibn Yasir r.a killed by Muavia r.a "according to them" as if it is not true. Wallahi Adnan you have exposed yourself now.
For the truth seekers here is the reference:
Musnad Ahmad 12347
@@nabeelahmad_it was a battle and he didn't kill him intentionally just as some sahaba who were on the side of Muawiya got killed by Ali, that doesn't mean Ali killed them intentionally
@@AsSunnahAnNabawiyyah read Sahi Bukhari 2812
@@mychannel-rc1vv read Sahi Bukhari 2812
@@nabeelahmad_ looks like you don't know Arabic just like your Baba PIumber
Khalifat was finished at Imam Hassan that's all.
Muawiya was a ruler not Khalifa because he broke the treaty with Imam Hassan.
your mirza was faild to bring a single ba-sanad narration on broke treaty. just making claims and nothing
@@waqasjavaid9274 the qayam of hazrat hussain alahis salam against yazeed was the proof of that which are clearly recorded in authentic ahadiths but only for those who use their aqal with ilm
@@mohammedshoaib-tq6hb bring fwd that so called *Authentic* Mr Inauthentic
@@waqasjavaid9274 I would have but looking at the comment section and your disingenuous attitude towards you debating others in this comment section and them bring authentic ahadiths to you while you ignoring and rejecting/ manipulating their meaning has made it evident to me that you are an insincere person who doesn't want the truth rather just want to take from the content provided what you wanna pick and chose and believe in ...so no thanks I'm nor gonna waste my time like that with you ....
Hussain ra never became caliph he was betrayed and killed before reaching kufah khulafa rashideen ended after ali ra or you can say after hassan ra 6 months which he could've hold onto but chose peace and unity due to once again the kufa betrayal
Muawiyyah ra was the first kingdom caliph he was a caliph but not khulafa rashideen but on the way of hereditary and only umar ibn adul aziz rh was a rashideen as well
Adnan is good.
But he wasn't answering him. He was going back to engineer again and again.
It seemed more of insults rather than answering.
exactly, This was just a boy debating him and he was being so aggressive, about hidden Hadiths, he's saying how it's hidden, and when he comes to debate a senior, then he'll say that this HAdith is "Mauzoo" etc etc.
not letting the other person speak and then declaring yourself a winner😂😂
Because that person accepted that he himself has not studied anything and has only listened to some random Engineer's RUclips clips 😂
No excuse not to listen. When youre begging to speak like a child @AlphaZuluKilo
@@noumanqureshi8489 Ahan have you seen the video length. So much for not listening
@@AlphaZuluKilo lame BS again. I commented after the video. A debater can't listen for a second. Lol. So much for comprehension skills in the only language you speak
@@noumanqureshi8489 What are you blabbering plumber fan. An hour long debate video is being commented by the smaller plumber as one sided talk. How much lamer can you get
All adnan Rashid is doing here is just interrupting the guy trying to be louder than him...and asking him irrelevant questions from the start to which he himself knows the answer to...that's the level of manipulation and misguiding tactics he's into
Your engineer has manipulated hadith text in his research paper on Karbala.You can check the same hadith in Maktaba Shamila and you will find out.I use to be his follower initially but after researching and reading his research papers and checking it with Shamela Arabic and Urdu I found out that he is a great manipulator.Adnan Rashid is not wrong.The people like you who follow Engineer Mirza has no knowledge of science of hadith and Arabic.Initially he was good when he use to sit with Sheikh Zubair Ali Zai but afterwards Sheikh Zubair himself rebuked him because of his Rafidi views.You can find Sheikh Zubair's clip against him on RUclips.
@@faraazsiddiqui1450 wrong sheikh Zubair ali Zai rebuked those firqaparast maulvis of ahle hadith who propagated lies against engineer and was asking for a fatwa against him but when sheikh Zubair cross checked it he found engineer's claim to be true.....there is no clip of shaikh Zubair rebuking engineer for him being a rafidhi which engineer is definitely not by a long shot...he hasn't said or claimed anything based upon ghulu for hazrat Ali radi allaho anho at all ...if what you claim is true show me that video
@@faraazsiddiqui1450 i was his avid listener but when he shi** on himself publicly by supporting nupur sharma against a muslim he lost my respect since then he is on continuous slippery slop of shi** and pi** ALHAMDULILLAH exposing himself more n more.
lol u clown
And then someone come to engineer for debate he started running and not even courage to face hime😂
The engineer can only explain his (Qadiyani approved Islam) Infront of the uneducated people only and the is the true
I have read the bukhari
How can u flee from 2812??
How can u ignore 4776 sahih Muslim??
How can u ignore 6220 and 6229 of sahih muslim??
U can not ever ignore these
Adnan is just getting emotional
Can you read it in Arabic? Do you understand Arabic? Or is your knowledge based on translations?
@@rizwankhalid6661so meaning reading Quran Arbic but we dont understand dose that make us what, so you saying reading quran with translation is not enough ?
@@zubairhalim6921 you need to learn Arabic to understand Quran. If you just learn to Read Arabic, how do you know the translation you are reading is correct? QURAN was revealed in Arabic not in your language
Fine let's discuss each these ahadith brother. For the first one, my question is what is to be done of the idraaj in the first hadith?
Traitor Adnan Rasheed is the Defender of Chishti Rasool amd Thanvi Rasool kufria Kalmaaz and their Olds He is a big Lair , How He can defend His kufr of His Chishti Prophet and Thanvi Prophet kalmaz , He is big traitor and lair He has to Justify his Belief of Last Prophet Muhammad S.A.W and why He defends Chishti Prophet and Thanvi Prophet kufr kalmaz Thats why He lost against Qadiyani kafirz 😂😂😂🖐️
18:50 FYI Engineer Mirza has faced 5 murder attempts in his own city. You got threats but he has escaped death 5 times with the will of Allah. Yes, he doesn't go to public places to preach Islam because of this danger & it's a Muslim right & duty to protect his/her life to the best extent. Indeed Allah is the best protector.
So what do you thing about Adnan rashid and other who don't faces life threats... Ther are so many brave men who left us in the name of Allah 😢... Crowd mirza
why he doesn't speak to scholars who came at his place?
Oh Man ! These Mirza Kids are really embarrassing themselves defending their Baba Mirza 😂
@@chachasheeda1931
Because he's a coward
Liberals k sath Podcast krne jaskta ha Musalmano se debate nahi kr skta tab jan ka khatra yad ajata 😂
Watched it for 17 minutes. Adnan won't let the guy present his argument. Wasn't expecting this from Adnan.
He was searching his mobile instead of talking...it's the boy's fault
proly not use a mobile next time and try to answer someone. This is like when shamsi was debating barelvis and they have to use their phones for rebuttal searching on google.
Summary: When Hasan R.A gave khilafah to Muavia R.A who is anyone to deny fatwa of Hasan R.A........ Mirza???
Problem with Mirza and co. is that they read books of different minded historians and take it as truth without realising its not Hadith. They don't realize ullema spend years studying all that knowing their context and authenticity or may be that's why mirza try to defame ullemas in general calling them baba and just being the only "legal baba" to gather viewership.
Jhelmi Guys only Finding faults
I watched it for whole 57 minutes and saw your guy fidgeting and spinning, continuously being distracted and neither hearing what was said nor understanding the conversation. LOL
Those who support Moavia (son of women (Hinda) who chew the lever of Hazrat Hamza , uncle of Hazrat Muhammad saw) May Allah Raise them with Yazeed and Moavia and we want to be raised with Ali as.
The first one Hasan RA to support Muavia. Blame him too then
Mashaallah proud of u adnan you are a sward for lier like Jimmy munafiq
If he is true he should come out of box
I am so disappointed to hear such absurd arguments being made by Adnan. He claims to have understood Bukhari and he doesn’t understand Arabic himself most likely and challenging the other guy if he knows Arabic??? That’s beyond ridiculous…
Engineer ka chamcha spotted
You don't know Adnan and his education and the time and people he had been debating with and coming up here writing a stupid comment like this. Says a lot about you.
@@tonylondon-bn5ck I have heard and watched a lot of debates happening there and felt so embarrassed as a Muslim so many times…
@@shirazjaved8901 you need to discover the conscious inside you.
It's really questionable of you if you're getting embarrassed by the absolute defence these people present.
Now it's really doubtful of your believes and asking question to myself what makes you embarrass?
@@tonylondon-bn5ck hahaha!!!
When plumbers teach you Islam 😅😂
2812😂😂😂
then people don't use baloon and you arive in this word😂😂😂😂.......Now, I have completed your sentence
@@shahhoo7411
Students mindset matches tutor.
When that plumber fit yar mamus nalkaa
@@IbneAdam321 of course.......and calling a scholor, a plumber is what you have learned from
your teacher
Muaviah started the first bida'at in Islam, by converting the Khilafat e Rashidah into Monarchy of Qaisar and Qisrah.
Where did it says that nothing like in musnad Ahmad that khilafah will be 30 years then there will be governance of king which will be merciful see go and read musnad e Ahmad
@@muhammadsumama8169 you want me to read Musnad and Adnan Rasheed couldn't even dare to read the Muslim...??? Adnan ran..
@@muhammadsumama8169 and by the way, I wasn't referring that hadees, I am telling the history.
@@muhammadsumama8169 Abu Dawood 4646
Ibn rabe kaaba is political opponent of muavia and,he never went to damascus so we need a, proof where he meet and,listent muavia ra?. So his verdict is not valid against him.
Sorry
When he said, I'm a jahil sheikh should have said, "We don't argue with jahils, assalamualaikum" and a handshake 🤝 at the end. It would have gone savage😂😂😂
Adnan is not listening him . He was just insulting him . this is not way of talk
The guy is searching his mobile all the time and when he had time to talk he spoke little and again started searching his mobile.
Because he is a grade fiver😂
@@mdmojammilansari56 He give the references to Adnan but Adnan flee away . he did not answer a single one . He was just insulting this Guy . This is not the the way of talk . In end he just say Assalam o Alaikum , I can not talk to you .
@@saad4081991 That's not about grade 5 or 6 This is about, what is he talking about.........
Kyunki wo uske baap muaviya ki pol Khol dega
Hazart Hassan r.a. is answer of all the questios of rawafids and mirzanados.
Alhamdulilah
G Hazrat Hassan R.A ko sulah ki offer tere mamu ki trf sy huwi thi😂😂
And 4131 abu dawood is the answer
Truth is Mirza has had assignation attempts. I think this guy Adnan is talking over the younger guy to discredit him. He went Pakistan with Mohammad hijab, maybe he should go again, and this time arrange to talk to Mirza for everyone to see
Like Mufti Tariq Masood 😅😅😅
Just like mirza who clamours in his mommy basement among his blind followers respects Qaiser Ahmed Raja will definitely respect him and will talk to him. Mirza is a psychotic person he thinks whoever questions him hard is an agent of his "enemies"
@@ramyrasu7728 Mirza will run from there as well
@@Hereafterisreal Perhaps, but should be addressed and called out to represent himself at the very least, by Adnan. Here you can see more bullying tactics as opposed to the merit of Adanan’s argument and fair chance at speaking. Makes you think Adnan scared of what he might hear.
@@ramyrasu7728 Your response fails to exhibit the requisite alignment with the issues delineated in my comments.
Adnan is a secret listener of Engineer.
I am glad to know that.
Damage has been done. ❤
Bs damage has been done bolty rehna ... ye to nzr a rha damage kdr hua ha.. even after listening the whole video you are saying that..
@@fitking1234 listen this video clearly, Adnan ran away when that kid asked him to answer about Muawiya after coming into power. Adnan was always degrading that kid but not answering regarding hadiths.
Hn na ummaat k basic aqaid ko damage have been done
Damage to bhai tere imaan ka kardiya plumber ne.
@@bilalmolani7268degrading 😂 Bhai woh debate ke basic usool ni jaanta toh, usse kya hi debate krte Adnan bhai, Woh ladka khud bol raha hain ki woh jahil hain
Adnan is getting emotional , no real substance to be honest. Engineer is not a bad person which he is trying desperately to portray
💯 if i was with adnan adnan is also my teacher;i was not give him a chances to talk regarding to books.😂
No real substance ??
Seriously ??
U just answer are the books hidden ?
How u say ulema have hidden the truth ...
Truth is in the books and no ulema has kept the books in the locker ..
Go read it ...mashaAllah beautiful
But how you point ulema ....
@@naturetubepk4289 engineer is 😂😂😂 not even engineer f16 or f35 k kissa 😂😂😂
Engineer is a person of fitna ...... He has sown seed of distrust regarding companions of Prophet pbuh and is leading many young children astray
Engineer is making his own sect, in fact he is trying to make people confuse about Islam. He is making doubts and telling people the things which are not necessary for us to know, such as the clashes of Sahana and Islamic scholars. What will we get after studying their personal matters.
Adnan brother you should go Pakistan and talk to engineer Muhammad ali mirza Infront of camera
Mirza will never face an intellectual person
Like Mufti Tariq Masood
Plumber Mirza hides in bathroom when someone knowledgeable goes to his so called academy.
Mirza already running from debates many times
@@zeeq4817 no he's not. The debate should be properly set up just like podcasts.
Peace was broken when Muawiya made Yazid the king. So where is the treaty.
Peace or bayaa?
This is not in treaty.
Where it's mention he should not appoint his son after him??? Give the refrence from sahi hadees.
@@farrukh4385 it wasn't a treaty, it was bayah and in bayah no such condition is mentioned
I am not pro engineer student but what if the grade 6 kid came and tell riba is haram according to quran.
Are you tell him that you are not qualified enough to teach me quran!!
Good point brother)
It’s the basic knowledge for a 6th grader.
I won’t ask him about different types of riba or take fatwa from him
@@syedaltaaf0402 exactly now left engineer on side and ask your shayk or maulavi about bukhari 2812!!
And the deeds of banu umayya..
Brother actually the problem is from 1300 years no one stood up and praise those tulaka,, it is now some people like pro saudi salafist strat those nonsense due to cold war between iran and saudi..
That's why we need some one to speak..
That’s a null point. The point Rashid made is if a 6 grader starts to rival and rebuke authorities. No one disagrees with riba being haram. What a horribly orchestrated argument brother.
@@omerfawadrauf7369ok left engineer aside.. i used to be a grave worshiper.. then I started reading quran and sunnah and left bareliviyat due to Hadiths against those biddhas..
Now I start to rival and rebuke the authorities of so called sufis and grave worshiper
Now my own people started calling my argument "what a horribly orchestrated argument brother" because I challenged them with out any degree....
Hazrat syedna Ameer Muavia رضی اللہ تعالیٰ عنہ
with all due respect brother adnan.. i really wanted to hear your arguments wrt the hadith that this brother quoted towards the end.. you seemed to avoid it..
Adnan openly showed he has something with those sectarian ppl in robes with him
he explained it, you did not focus. The hadith says that some person says muawiya r.a. is doing this and that. No one knows if it was correct or not. The sahabi just replied with a principle that if he says something wrong, then dont obey him.
There is no argument against Muawyia here bcz the incident is authentic but who was the person who said it and if it was truth is not clear, Imam Muslim r.h. is a documentor of authentic incidents, he is not verifying if a person said truth or not.
It is half video full video is on adnan's channel.
He did listen again but this time without stubbornness (I'm not being harsh)
Jealous of Engineer ali mirza, because he has achieved many things in a very small time from the will of Allah.
Though I admit he is fallable too,he does mistake but better than any other sectarians preacher and way better than this guy..
He DOESN'T ACCEPT HIS MISTAKES and instead double down on them making his case even weaker and exposing himself to the public
@@Musahuk_0440 what is PIumbers achievement exactly??
Mere nabi sa hai he koi nai tere sare babay te shai he koi nai
Baseless claim
Mera Mirza jahanumi or us k andhy muqalidon se sawal he
Baby ko BABA ka maqam kis ne diya?
Pehly is sawal ka jawab do, phir agly baat karty hen.
@@MidHigh178 Ali hajvairy and mooen ud deen chisti ko konsa firqa gahlat samjhta tha?
@@MidHigh178 Allah quran mai inam yafta babon k rastay per chalnay ki dua mangwa raha hai. sirat alazina anamta alihim.
اللہ عزوجل قرآن مجید میں فرماتا ہے
"ہمیں ان لوگوں کے راستے پر چلا جن پر تو نے انعام کیا"
اب یہاں کون لوگ مراد ہیں؟ جواب دیں۔ یہ سورہ فاتحہ کا بیان ہے اب سورہ بقرہ میں اللہ کامیاب لوگوں کی نشانیاں بیان فرماتا ہے
"وہ رب پر بغیر دیکھے ایمان لاتے ہیں
وہ نماز قائم کرتے ہیں
وہ اللہ کے عطا کردہ رزق میں سے اللہ کی راہ میں خرچ کرتے ہیں
وہ لوگ ایمان رکھتے ہیں اس پر جو ان کی طرف نازل ہوا اور جو ان سے پہلے نازل ہوا
وہ لوگ آخرت پر ایمان رکھتے ہیں"
اس سے پہلے ہی اللہ فرما دیتا ہے
" یہ قرآن متقین کے لیے ہدایت ہے"
اور متقین کی صفات میں یہ بھی شامل ہے کہ وہ بڑوں کا بلا لحاظ رنگ و نسل، دین و ملت احترام کرتے ہیں۔
اللہ تو علم والوں کو بیان کرتے ہوئے سوال پوچھتا ہے
"کیا علم والے اور بے علم برابر ہو سکتے ہیں"
تو میرا اگلا سوال ہے
وہ بزرگ حضرات جو دین پر عمل کرتے ہوئے مقام افضلیت پر پہنچ گئے جو امت کے لیے مشعل راہ بن گئے کیا ان کی ذات پر انگلی اٹھانے والے متقین کی صف میں شامل ہوگا یا اسفل السافلین کی جماعت میں ۔
حدیث میں واضح بتا دیا گیا ہے چھوٹوں پر شفقت اور بڑوں کا ادب نہ کرنے والا امت مسلمہ میں سے نہیں۔
تو پھر جو شخص دین کے نام پر دن رات بہتان تراش کر غلاظت کی ترویج میں جٹا ہوا ہے وہ کون سا دین کا خادم ہے۔
اب جواب دو گے تو اگلا سوال تیار ہے۔
جبکہ مرزا ملعون امت کے بہترین لوگوں پر آئے دن زبان تان دراز کرتا رہتا ہے۔
@@waqasjavaid9274 Kis firkay ka baba
Masha Allah old man.. holding Flag of Palestine.. whole world is with gaza Palestine ❤️❤️❤️
Pure duniya ke log Gaza Palestine ke saath hai..!❤️❤️❤️
I appreciate the boy. He showed sabar even when adnan was just insulting his teacher and him and at the same time not giving any solid reason or claim. Just beating around the bush. Shame on adnan
I think the better way to deal with this topic is by not revealing that they are engineer Ali's student and just directly start keeping the point and giving references,by doing this speakers like Adnan will have to directly deal with the references and not with engineer Ali mirza
@@syedhussainshahquadri6095 Exactly! thats a good point that you have made. They should not reveal that they are Engineers student Just put forth their references and hadiths because when someone tells them I'm a student of so and so then they get a topic to beat around the bush and do personal attacks and invoke the delusional people around him. The funny thing is that even in this chaos where he kept insulting the kid , when he read the hadiths from bukhari and muslim Adnan had no answers and fumbled so hard.
@@araizkhan221 iam amazed by seeing that the same person ,who was emphasising on references and logical evidences is now just insulting and passing personal comments
@@syedhussainshahquadri6095 as you said before. Banda apna ancestoral firqa bacha raha. aur apna farzi firqo ka peecha inho ne Allah ki kitab aur uska rasool ki talimaat ko thukra diya. Allah inha hidayat dai
He should have been prepared. Making such claims he should knows he's talking to a knowledgeable person. He shouldn't make claims if he can't back it up
Adnan has a very weak argument, to be honest... according to him Hassan RA knew everything and still place him to be Khalifa.. in this way Muhammad PBUH kept the leadership role of Abdullah ibn Ubbayy and even call him his companion so does that mean Muhammad PBUH was in favor on Abdullah ibn Ubbay? No it is about keeping peace among the community..
So very very weak argument by Adnan..
Adnan look like uneducated and disrespectful when he don't have answers
Adnan is speaking about everything around the horse but not anything about the horse. 😂😂😂😂😂
The question is: whether Mu'awiya fought against Hazret Ali or not?
The simple answer is yes/no.
I love Hazret Ali and I don't care about his opponents at all. Mu'awiya came to Islam in 629 CE and fought against Hazret Ali who was a Muslim from day one and whom the prophet {PBUH} raised, loved and gave his best daughter in marriage. They CAN NEVER BE EQUAL.
Are you Shia? Just asking
@@AmmarReusyou mean that if a person loves Ahl-e-Bait he is shia? are you serious?
Firqon Ki Dukaanein (shops) Band, The Damage Has Been Done ✅👍😂😂😂😂😂🌸🌸🌸😇😇😇✅✅✅🙏🙏🙏🤣🤣🤣🤣😜😜😜😜😛😛😛😛
I respect Adnan when he defends Prophet Muhammad, Esa, and the other tawheed related things in front of christians and jews and hindus but here we can see why you are angry. Mamu party 😂
If you studied Bukhari with your sheikh then why you dont tell your people about 2812 ☠️
Bro said show me the conditions Imam Hassan demanded from Muawiyah, yes they do not exist in Ahadees books, but they do exist in history books and when the guy tried to show him he refused by saying show from ahadees,
Bughz e Ahle Bait at its peek
who is the writer of history?
I can smell naasbiyat in comment section
I can smell jahiliyyah in mirza followers.
I can smell Rafiziyat in Ali PIumber and his followers
@@shahid_saiyed but why am I smelling rafziyat ...!!??
Chang ur nose
@@waqasjavaid9274 😂🤣
Adnan bhai fear Allah because you can talk you didn't let the other guy speak properly!
This is students fault. He is confused
Adnan rashid sahab is also in mamo party 😂😂😅😂😅
Hasan masoom too 😂😂😂
@@KhanKhan-te4pbdo you know urdu 😊
And you are in munafiq party bro
Engineer is right you guys afraid of islam 😂
He is jahil keep crying Emam Emam Deviant 🤡.
Yeah that’s why they are the one’s defending Islam in academia, writing books, clearing doubts, debating with Islamophobic people while your Engineer sits in a box like a coward and pigeon hearted man he is.
lol troll
Kia kaadiyanio ke aaz e wuzu chamak rahay hoongay ya woh ap ko kafir na kahain to aap un ko musilman maan lein gay
@@mehboobhussain5096 search karo beta, engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza qadiani, videos ghor se dekhna kitni baar kafir kaha kadiano ko engineer ne Bache na bano
Hahaha O Allah Literally Mola Ali is the litmus test for momin check the tone of the guy he is only defending moavia nothing to do with Islamic ideology.
48:01 Ali bin Abi Talib (nothing) Muwaiyah bin Abi Sufyan (R.A), bughz e ahle bait
Adnan you are good in debating non muslims, but when it comes to Firqa Parasti, you are a part of it and we can clearly see that
54:55 look at his face after reading the hadees 😂😂😂
Solute to this student
2:02 "Where are they hiding?" What a nonsense question!
1. Sahih Muslim (2604a) - Disrespected Prophet (saww) - Ignored calls from Prophet (saww) only to finish his food
2. Sahih Bukhari (2812) - War with Ali (as) - Battle of Siffin and killing thousands of Companions
3. Sahih Muslim (6229) - Cursing of Ali (as) - Ultimately ended by Umar bin Abdul Aziz (ra)
4. Sahih Bukhari (2704) - War with Hassan (as) - Refused to accept Hassan (as) as caliph and killed muslims
5. Sahih Bukhari (4108) - Taunted son of Umar (ra) - Said he's more worthy of caliphate than Umar (ra)
6. Sahih Muslim (4776) - UnIslamic orders - Told people to kill one another and loot wealth
7. Abu Dawood (4131) - Corruption and greed - A Companion exposing his wrongful deeds
These hadiths exposes Muawiya!
I went thourgh all above. every narration is miss quoted and out of context. sorry mr rusin you think you just type some numbers and people start believing?
Friends I give you a touch stone of above false claims. if above are all true. then why Hazart Hassan handed over khilafa to sach a criminal and why muhaditheen like imam bukhari took hadith from such a fasiq. IN short all above are out of context like just how shia do with quran.
@@waqasjavaid9274 Hassan did a Treaty that neither we as righteous Muslims nor Hussain A.S agreed with.Hussain A.S knew that Muawiyah would not fulfill Hassan's treaty. And now today we know (after it happened) that Muawiyah didn't keep up with treaty as he appointed his son as next riler that was against treaty,thus treaty broke! Now Hussain A.S was so intellectual that he knew at that time that Muawiyah cannot be trusted thus Hussain didn't agree with Hassan on that treaty!
As far as imam bukhari taking hadith from Muawiyah proves nothing because that's well knowm among Muhadissin that Sahaba can make any mistake but they don't lie in the name of Prophet as , Prophet Muhammad P.B.U.H clearly warned them all of lying in His name would sure them Hellfire!
Thus Muqadima(Case) of Muawiya is clear in light of Quran o Sunnah, that Muawiyah is neither righteous muslims as proven by (Muslim 4776 & 2604) , nor is he a rightly guided ruler (khalifa e Rashid), instead he took stand against Khalifa e Rashid (Ali A.S) and with his evil destroyed Khilafat e Rashida as prophesized by Muhammad P.B.U.H!!!!!!!!!
THAT'S TOUCHSTONE BROTHER!
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT SHIA BUT HERE ITS YOU WHO IS TRYING TO INTERPRET THINGS IN A WAY DEFEND THUS EVIL PERSON!
@@waqasjavaid9274 If you think they are misquoted,you can quote them right here!!!!! And prove difference!!!!
He didn't even handle the engineer's student then how he could be able to handle the engineer himself?
What do you mean? Halfway through the video, he was struggling and couldn't even find his reference from his phone
Bro what about the removed clips if you can find out the cut in videos...
How would they upload a video where they are wrong...@@a-r5640
@@a-r5640 and what do u mean, in almost all conversations sir Adnan only pointing out about 1 thing that nothing is hidden from us .......again and again 😔........
And after that he didn't even listen to him about why the engineer's student said that...
We pray for all of u guys to reach to the right deen... aameen..
Because u all are here just for the sake of truth, whether Adnan Rashid is true or whether engineer...
And InshaAllah Allah always unveils the truth over the truth seekers..
Don't say he didn't handle, come on
@@UsmanMughal-lm8pp so what do u says....is he able to handle him?....
Kitaab mein baat nhi chuppi magr deen k custodians ne batai bhi to nhi hai. Thats why baat chupai gai. Engineer student rocks....
Tumne khud kyu nahi padhi
Blame karna easy hai
Har koi Deen ka custodian hai
this guy has some points but he was unprepared
Nonsense answers given by Adnan to questions asked by the guy and we can understand Adnan bhai as you are following the Ahlul hadees school of thought who have nothing to do with ahlul bait ع
Yes ahlehadees are all about ehle bait a.s that are the wives of the prophet s.a.w and mothers of the ummah. You have stolen the title
Absolutely no answers were ever given by Engineer Mirza or his students ever .. Adnan built up his entire argument to one valid solid small question " why did Hasan RA join hands with him" and the bloke in the video nor any of the "students" of engii in the comment section have given an answer ..
@@user-hj7rp9zs6u Follow Quran and Sunnah with the understanding of 3 favourite generations. And love all the companions and ahlul bait as well. ❤️ Spread love not hate
By this stupid logic even Yazid Bin Muawiya was a "kalifa" since Ibn Umar gave his allegiance to Yazid. Muawiya brought armies against Hassan and Hassan was coerced to give up his Khilafah. If you justify this act of Muawiya you are basically saying it's ok to take over the Khilafah by force. Islam gave us the just institution of Khilafah and abolished Monarchy.
Hasan (R.A) give khilafah to Muavia (R.A)...... Thats the simplest answer.
وَ مِنَ النَّاسِ مَنْ یُّجَادِلُ فِی اللّٰهِ بِغَیْرِ عِلْمٍ وَّ یَتَّبِـعُ كُلَّ شَیْطٰنٍ مَّرِیْدٍ
Now adnan also have proofed that Ali bhai is right.
Here in whole argument he never admits the questions of Emams student rather he bombards his anger on that guy .
He just say jahil jahil 😂😂😂
Now get ready to have some phakki
On this upcoming sunday. ❤
Adnan showed why he lacks knowledge. He doesn't let others speak. Such a shameful guy.
He ain't taking names of ahlul Bayt with respect ....nasibi freaks , totally blind in love of ummayids.
Usko charger nhi mil rha 😂😂 ghnta debate krega 😂😂
@kredziigaming981😂😂😂 point
It’s not about Mirza or anyone. Even the scholars have said Muawiya was a fitna and caused wars because of his Tribal prejudice against a rightly guided Caliphs.
It’s not something very complicated. The hadiths are pretty clear. Adnan is plainly wrong.
Right ❤
He served 20 years in the era of rightly guided Caliphs.
@waqasjavaid9274 not twenty. Hazrat Umar r.a had a policy to only keep his governors for 4 years. Muawiya was appointed but Umar r.a died before his 4 years and yes Uthman r.a did keep him because his policy were different but weak. Then later muawiya rebelled against the Rightly guided caliph.
Brother it's not me vs you argument. We both are brothers but we should not deny or complicate the clear hadiths. The popular notion among us "sunnis" (i don't like to associate myself with anything other than Muslim but for the sake of argument) is that our scholars know something that we don't but the fact is you and i and all the scholars need to base their arguments on Quranic verses and Hadiths of Prophet Muhammad PBUH so they should bring Hadiths that defend Muawiya and not what their "opinion" is. The hadith are pretty clear on all of this subject. Prophet Muhammad PBUH prophesied about Ali r.a will fight muslims for the interpretation of Quran.
You agreed he was part of caliphate.
2ndly he ask for justice.
Thrdly Ali joind hands with muavia
4th Hasan Hussain baiah muavia and it's a consensus.
The false claim you people are presenting. Never presented by ahl bait.
They love each other muvaiva, spent millions of dinar on ahl bait. Even Shia agrees
@@waqasjavaid9274 No. plain wrong. Hazrat Ali r.a never never forgave Muawiya. Asking for justice is not done by raising an army against a rightly guided Caliph. There are Hadith books saying Hazrat Ali r.a prayed qunut e Nazla on Muawiya and his group, Amr ibn Al aas and his group and aba Salami and his group.
Hussan r.a did what Rasool Allah saw prophesied about him that doesn’t mean he agreed with Muawiya. Hassan r.a put forth 5 conditions and only one was Met by Muawiya and later Hassan r.a was poisoned. All of this and more are recorded in Our Hadith books. He violated the agreement by demanding pledge of allegiance within his life for Yazeed again violating not only the agreement with Hassan r.a but also violating the Hadith of Rasool Allah saw that if a second man starts taking pledge of allegiance during the time of the original ruler then kill him.
Mirza is a pathetic liar
No
Mirza Ali is the buruzi of Mirza Qadiyani
NOT ONLY LIER BUT TOUT OF THE ARMY 🪖 IN PAKISTAN
How? Because he damage your fiq or what?
@@akkasgaming6126 Mirza Ali an admirer of Qadianism is a problem to the Ummah . Just this video shows pretty well how much hatred he has taught to his gullible students.
The damage has been done.
If the Love and defence of Ali Alaiyhis Salaam and the Ahlul Bait makes you a Shiah then I am a Shiah.
Oh allah love the people who love ahle Bait and hate those who hate them.
Adnan sahab you should read what Mulla Ali Qari wrote about Muawiya in his book.And then tell us why do Barelvis & Deobandis & Ahl e Hadees still defend Muawiya.
Hahhahhaha Adnan bhai theek pkra hai basics pe😂😂
Adnan saying Ammar ibn Yasir r.a killed by Muavia r.a "according to them" as if it is not true. Wallahi Adnan you have exposed yourself now.
For the truth seekers here is the reference:
Musnad Ahmad 12347
@@nabeelahmad_Capitalze 'A' of 'Allāh'.
As-salām u 'alaykum.
@@nabeelahmad_stop spamming
@@IExposeAnimestheir real Allah is Ali whom they worship
@@AsSunnahAnNabawiyyah That guy is not a rāfiḍī, don't you see that he supplicated for sayyidunā Mu'awiyah, raḍiy Allāh 'anhu?
That guy is a student of Engineer, may God preserve him. As-salām u 'alaykum wa rahmat Allah wa barakātuH.
This young ilmi kitabi will see Shaikh Adnan in his dreams now till decades 😃
Adnan rashid is clearly humiliating him.. he has solid points but he did not prepare
i am a Pakistani and we rejected this ignorant mirza engineer ali. he is a nonsense
I’m not gonna debate on this topic but I think Engenir has potential that’s why people listen to him not for fun for reality of islam. That’s my point I got more knowledge by him either than others alims.
What knowledge, mirza is a fraud.
Quite frankly, this was subpar. You diverted the conversation, chased red herrings, made ad hominem attacks, didn't let him speak, and didn't counter a single point he made especially the last hadith which is damning for the character of Muawiya.
I was also student of adnan Rashid; but now i feel bad for him.
He is a great man but in these issues and Yazeed palmed I did not agree
You are an engineer student. Don't talk about Adnan bhai
@@asifalikhan8677 bro; I'm a comparative religion student; I'm student of sheikh Ahmed deedat; dr zakir naik ; sheikh uttman farooq; ali dawah; and also adnan bhai ; I have seen his Live with razi about to 7 hours of debate; individually i have seen all the questions regarding to Qadyanis ; and by the way; adnan rashid has not clear prospects about chisti thanvi; he said we don't owned them the hujiyat is only Rasoul ﷺ and muhdseen; by forcing and repeating of razi again and again then he said we can make fatwa on them can you make fatwa on dajjal; while engineer Muhammad Ali mirza go and chck the video of Qadyani ko dawat e ishlah; Qadyani ko musliman bananye wala clip.
@@asifalikhan8677 ruclips.net/video/ElCE_XVeMHk/видео.html
@@LEARN_QURAN208Engineer is not in right track he is not on the way of Salaf
Look at his Mentality He is learning Islam from engineer 😂
I first used to listen to mirza but once after i listened he said qadianis are better than yahud and nasara..then i wrote big cross to mirza.
People are so frustrated with Ali bhai that they think whoever they are debating with is actually Engineer muhammad ali mirza and they have won the debate 😂
That jahil won't debate because he is a jahil and his followers are 🤡🤫
What you people have made him. he is an idiot
Bhaijaan Engineer Sufi barelvis sufi deobandis se debate kar nahi sakta in logon se kare ga jo har mazhab walon se debates kartay hai or Haq (Islam) ki fatah hoti hai
Bhai this Adnan Rashid is not allowing to speak. he is asking student to change, but when comes to him he says dekinge.
After the battle of Safin, Hazrat Ali said: "People! Do not dislike the governorship of Muawiyah. If you lose them, you will see that the head will fall from its glory like the fruit of Hanzal from its tree.
IBN ABI SHAIBA 14/38850
Remember quotes like this remind us even though muawiyyah ra was on the wrong we still love and respect him as a sahaba
@@abdullahassaffah Nasbi that's and your love for Sahaba revolves around Muawiyah. You clearly have no idea what he did to Sahaba
Adnan Uncle single handedly mauled not just this guy but the engineer and the rest of his fanbase too. 🔥😆
Like every pheroh,there is Musa....
For every mirza there is Asad Rasheed...
Naam yaad rakhna
Engineer Mirza in his earliest he supported Hazrat Mu'aviya RA and now he is against. Mirza is also claims that Qadiani are Ahle Kitab and are better then Christians and Jews as per Mirza. The problem these ignorance is they follow their emotional and don't study.
That is so true I have watched his videos he used the same arguments when he was in support of Muaviya RA
@@Trust-Islam Number of times he turned back from his arguments.
@@muhammadawais6555 Adnan is academically historian and also educated on Islamic studies I do disagree with his debating ethics, however he openly challenged Mirza to talk to him live, let’s see what Mirza replies to this.
@@Trust-Islam I completely agree with Adnan and call him Ustad.
yea the main point is that, ullema from sub continent has this narrative that if a regular person read quran with translation he'll be misguided. and thus from centuries this narrative works and people believe whatever nonsense they through at them. One challenged them all and his name was Maulana Mududi, then the next Dr. Israr, Mulana Ishaq and now Engr Muhammad Ali. They preach people to read quran and hadees. They declared Kafir by other sects of scholars because they were hurting their businesses. When Adnan losing argument he started raising his voice, name calling, cutting people off, asking irrelevant questions to through people of tack.
19:19 Yes you are 1000% correct. this is the mirza's real Fear.
Yes 💯 percent true.
The boy didn’t even know the name of the book. May ALLAH guide him. Engineer should come out of the box if he has any guts
Everything is fine but from adnan rashid's logic yazid was also khalifah
Kid won for 100%
Adnan ran..
I have been watching Adnan Bhai for quite some time and also watched his debate with a qadyani in a mosque. I do not remember the name of the qadyani but in his debate Adnan bhai also said same thing as Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza bhai. Qadyani was showing writings of "Babee" old so called "bazurgan e deen" and was trying to justify the sayings of ghulam qadyani dajjal from the writings of "ulma e soo" and adnan bhai said that he will not even defend them because he will only talk about Quran and Sahi Ahadees.
But when same Books of Ahadees show what Banu Ummaiya "Ammer e Shaam" and "Yazeed" did to MOLA ALI AS, IMAM HUASSAN AS and IMAM HUSSAIN AS, then why does the basic rule does not stand for them. Even HAZRAT USMAN RA was martyred becuase of the misdoings of governors of Banu Ummaiya.
When Ahadees shows that what has been been done to AHLE BAIT AS during the KHILAFA of MOLA ALI AS, during the Mulookiat of Ameer e Shaam and after that, when can't people just accept the truth, when it is staring right in the face.
Because these kinda people have nasbiyat in them so they try and hide the truth
You really roast his basic claimssss matlb aap logon ne parha nhi hai tu iska mtlb yh thodi ky books mai likha nhi hai🤣
teachers : when student ask about a question in the exam .
apni awam ko kon bolta hai ke ahadees direct na prhna, gumrah ho jao gay????? jawab dena hai ab
@@shahhoo7411
Kya Dunia mai aik wqt mai sirf aik Fitnah ya Jahil ho skta hai do 4 nhi ho skty?
@@Lotus259yehi to me keh raha hoon....fitnay hmesha 2-4 nhi blkeh 2-4 lakh hotay hain....haq pr hmaisha kuch log hi hotay hain, ye to quran me Allah taala ne bta diya
@@shahhoo7411
so what??
Bro I used to promot his channel nd videos when he only speak again firqawariat etc...
but when he start gaing fame.....he totally changed...Now I doubt on his Niyyah too..
Every sunni imam like abu hannifa, ahmad bin hanbal, shafi and imam malik R.A was against moavia and they loved ahlebait. But now sunni loves Banu ummyah more then ahlybait.
One thing is that Adnan and all have reverted Muawaiyah as their spiritual father. Adnan did not expect this behaviour from you.
Sahi bukhari 2812 sahi Muslim 6229
Adnan bhai…..go back to listening to 2pac this doesn’t look good for you….i ain’t no fan of Mirza but his student has got you in a twist…..best to do a one on one with Mirza 👍
I don't think you understand English 😅.....and you have no idea who adnan is😅....engineer can't even talk to firqay baz ulma forget about adnan
Engineer would run away again😂
do you still think mirza will sit?
enginner ke liye tu tariq masood sahab kaafi hai na.manpulation to mirz ka weapon ke
@@user-vo9nh8ld5b not really Tariq masud isn’t that good he just likes to tease and please….he offered Tariq but Tariq didn’t want to 🤷🏼