I don't know exactly how many miles my Tesla Model Y will do, and I don't care.
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- Your car almost certainly has more than enough for daily use. Whatever it is!
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In this video I ask a basic question - does range matter? I've had a few people ask me "how far does it go?" and I don't have an answer. I honestly don't know! And after 17,000 miles it really doesn't matter.
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I feel the same way. With the abundance of reliable SuperChargers, it’s a non-issue.
It’s not the range that you have to worry about. It should be when I need a comfort break.
Exactly! My bladder has a much smaller range than the car
If you don't have a home plug or upgraded plug... your at the superchargers half the year or hoping to plug into a local slower charger.
Not frugal for apartment renters either.
I could drive my PHEV to Vegas and back to L.A. and maybe take 10 minutes to fill up and still scratch 65mpg...
The line to supercharge going to Vegas is usually 15 cars deep more or less!
I can't even get a ferry from the UK to Norway so getting a ferry to Vegas isn't going to be a problem for me😅
I don’t own any form of Tesla, I own a Mini Cooper S E and I’ve never suffered range anxiety - I used to get charger anxiety on the CPS network but here in the Stirling area CPS/SWARCO appears to be looking after their chargers now. I’m retired but never used my car for work when I was working - I drove containerships for a living - so o longer do the 3 x annual drive to the south East of England. I do have a 90 mile round trip toEdinburgh Airport from where I live but even in the depths of winter the Mini BEV will do that run with about 25% SOC remaining on arrival home - Mini’s problem is it’s GOM is so darned pessimistic it scares you into never using it! Another thing is the Mini is really really efficient over the summer I have been getting
I had a 2015 Mini Cooper (manual petrol) and *adored* it. I can imagine how much fun they would be with an electric drivetrain!
I’ve been saying the same thing for years. I have a Y and a 3 and I treat it like my phone. I use it until it gets low then plug it in. Rinse and repeat. No stress at all. I never look at the Trips info or consumption stats. I truly don’t care.
This one is not on range but costs actually very motivating to 'just get a tesla' in my experience.
for context,what I tried out was , goin from basically brussels Belgium to the south of France below Avignon and back, but from Barcelona.
So I used all Tesla going to the south and all non tesla shell recharge card access and app going back north.
To remember tesla was 30-40 eurocents per KW.
shell was 60-70 or even 90 cents.
Just remember X2 !!!! So 'just get a Tesla' only for the lower lifetime spend and Extra charging options which was also an extra reassurance, as non-tesla chargers aren't as flawless, really I tried in half of the non tesla chargers I had to move to another spot (I could and then it worked, but lost dozen of minutes trying and moving the car where with the tesla chargers in France I had no issues , within seconds from parking I could start charging. and it was at least at 50% of the price shell recharge card options ... even sometimes cheaper then my local home energy charge at about 35-38 euro cents ( about 30 pences).
So using Tesla chargers would have made my travel costs 50% of travel with my VW 95 pertol Touran. without that 'Tesla Advantage' it would be about the same highway travel cost
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Whilst i agree on most of what you say an ev and ice car refueling on long journeys are not equivalent inkng jorneys Longer range 400 -700 miles, more working petrol stations evely distributed accross the country and more importantly quicker charging and therefore if they are all occupied for some reason a quicker turn over until its your turn . Range probably isnt an issue on bigger evs but they are certainly not then same as an ice
Point here is "Just get a Tesla" and it's a non event. Traveling long distances isn't an issue, the car is ready before the human, assuming that the human isn't trying to prove a point by driving for 10+ hours without stopping.
I'm happy to comply with my wife's preferred stops of around 2.5 hour intervals. Car charges and waits for us.
European road trips no issue, really looking forward to my next one, it can't come soon enough!
@@djtaylorutube agree to that, and that's coming from being that 10h+ driving straight approach for more then a decade 😎 I'll never be going back. now I'm 'forced' to take a 'god forbid' 10-15min break every 3-4h .. the recommendation is ever 2h for 20min. if I'm not mistaken ..
Very relaxing ...
Bizarre though it may sound, range is an issue for ICE, which is why ICE cars have fuel tanks of a particular size that avoids the inconvenience of filling up.
I used to do a 200 mile a day commute and the car was our old Volvo 850 converted to LPG. Range in that was about 240 to 260 miles per day which means that every day I had to refuel. Putting that into numbers, although the LPG station was only about 200 metres off my route, that would add another 2 to 3 minutes (traffic lights to turn into the filling station. Then commonly a queue for the LPG pump which was among petrol pumps. Maybe 2 minutes? 3 minutes to refuel, queue of a couple of minutes to pay, then join back on route. It would add around 10 to 15 minutes every day!
Even doubling that range would still only remove the inconvenience to every other day.
Now compare that to what it would have been like with my EV, no detour on the way home, plug in which is 5 seconds.
Summary, every week refuelling with ICE (inconvenient) over an hour lost. EV would be less than half a minute lost.
So every time someone says that it only takes 2 minutes to refuel, it really doesn't, all EV drivers have come from ICE, we aren't being taught anything, we know EXACTLY what that is really like.
Each to their own though, drive what works best for the individual. :)
You hit a good point, if you have access to a powerplug (home charging station at min. doubles the charge speed ) you can charge almost everywhere.
my experience, went to south of France 1st time with an ev (tesla y long-range ). ready for every other evening spending +/- an hour driving to the local fast charger wait and back. not needed at all. villa owners where we stayed invited to charge with the granny charger at their place. So after every day trip, I arrived at about 50-60% at the villa. By the time we left again it was charged up to 90+% (at about 3k-3,5k) it wasn't needed so much, but it left plenty of margin and no anxiety at all, even if we wanted to push on and go an hour or 2 even further then planned ...
@@bartuytterhoeven7302 Awesome, that's similar to our trip to Switzerland a few weeks ago, other than the first charge at home, everything else was public charging. Superchargers in France were superb, plenty of capacity and at the airbnb in France, we charged with the granny charger which took us easily into Switzerland. I had picked hotels with EV charging and although I did use them, that was more curiosity to see how well that was working on a trip. We could have done the entire trip on Superchargers only without any issue.
The one thing I would like to see in the satnav planning would be an option to set the arrival SoC desired so that it could plan that in. It's not *that* difficult to factor it in or set the final destination as the "next" destination but it would be simpler if it could be defined. Otherwise the car just tries to arrive near flat, which isn't always desirable when away from home.
Yes! Had to stick a tenner in the airport car (i30) to get home earlier
Was certainly my experience renting a Model Y in California. Two 500 mile days with very little pre-planning, just stopping where the car said to. I’m only a little bit worried it may not be as simple when my own one shows up in a couple of months in the UK - the non-Tesla public charging infrastructure here seems rubbish so counting on those superchargers!
Superchargers are fine, get yourself an Electroverse card to cover the rest that matter and your done.
Electroverse will also cover you for many a European trips.
set it to % it avoids the range anxiety. Then to your comfort level you go and get to a charger by 30% or 20% or for those who are comfy and don't want much backups if the targeted charger is busy or has a defect 10% (not me by the way but I,also wasn't with petrol filling it up at +/- 1/3 if I could) 😎.
So you guessed it my comfort level is between 20-30% left arriving at a charger or destination, but I had the same with petrol. Did I need it, no not yet. And by now I have 7400 kilometers (4600miles) since June 12th with the same longe range Tesla model Y (2023 berlin built no sensors).
And it was a more comfy relaxing travel experience overall.
I think you advised it Ian to put it to % . And you have a point in petrol cars you don't watch the kilometers left either, it's the gauge going down which is basically also a %
And like with any other car at 0% there is still some 'extra' reserve left so you can make that last stretch.
Now the EV advantage, it takes an overnight, but any overnight stay and a basic eletric plug with the granny charger (+/- 3500w in the EU 220v) will give you +/- 100 miles while your sleeping wherever you are. Plenty to get to your preferred fast charger
I did a trip the other week, set destination back to home. It said 1% at destination and I said to my wife that we were going to go for that. :) We arrived home at 2%, it was rather disappointing, I failed.
@@djtaylorutube Ah kudos to you , gone assume the hilly country advantage of ev's has something to do with this potentially. because of another typical EV thing, regenerative braking, you might have regenerated a bit more then the car expected 😎, 'power' to you, As to be honest 1% is plenty of miles left. But I don't like it and want an option to reach another (fast)charger.
for those interested watch the recent winter carwow range test ... there is a bit more after 0% with every car
@@bartuytterhoeven7302 I know and I had the choice of three supercharger options on the way home and then another nearby one so it wasn't as if I was totally inbetween far apart and out of options. Had I been looking like 20 miles to go with 16 miles range left, then I would have done the SC at the 20 mile location but I was on about 28 miles at that point so no issue.
It was also aided by the fact that it was a bank holiday, lots of caravans keeping the speed of traffic to 50mph but I was interested in the car saying that I needed to keep speed below certain speeds that it kept updating, in order to reach destination.
Generally there's no need of course but this was very much a confidence booster.
Any update on "blind Pugh" yet Ian?
In for a new brain on Monday. Many many videos to come!
Looking forward to them Ian 👍
i love tesla model y they are my favourite electric car
The argument saying "It doesn't have the range it claims to have" is dead. What car manufacture providess a number that will be accurate in a normal everyday driving situation, NONE?
And im also taking about combustion engine cars. They are said to go what 20km/l but in reality its more like 17km/l or lower the faster you drive- surprise surprise, just like EVs. Its physics.
Good videod!
What we should be talking about is the grid CO2 and inefficiencies from grid to road. Last night the grid if you charged was 275g (8.9.23) if Co2 per kWh and we don’t count the Co2 from burning bio mass). The real charging generation to road efficiency is conservatively 65%). Using the uk grid most nights is between 100 and 130g of Co2 per mile.
Be sure to include the energy costs and subsequent CO2 for the extraction and refining of petrol and add those to the emissions.
Hi Toby, we've done this before. There are plenty of studies that have already documented at what point over vehicle lifetime and consumption, the various effects and their impacts are yielded.
I'm sure that we don't all have to do this on every video of GBC, macmaster, EVman, Petrol Ped etc.?
If there's a bunch of studies which doesn't include the likes of the Daily Mail and the Sun , which show unequivocally, that continuing to burn oil is a good thing then point them out.
Also bear in mind that choosing an EV for many buyers, has nothing to do with environmental first and foremost. It wasn't mine.
@@djtaylorutube and we have to count the refining and liquidfication of natural gas. Yes we have done this before because it’s important that people understand where the energy comes from and the whole impact of all Vehicle types.
Yes there are many studies about how long it takes to recover the pollution created to generate an EV ranging from 12,000 miles to 100,000 miles
But my point is maybe we should look at when to charge to lower the uks electricity CO2 emmissions and the fact that we could charge at better times in the day when Co2 emmissions where as low as 120g of Co2 (midday) instead of at night when they have been at there highest.
After all EVs are sold on there green credentials.
If I lived in France or Norway on a low co2 grid an EV would make sense but we live in the uk with a grid that at night has 250 to 300g of Co2 per kWh
Anyway they’ll be loads more of stories for the sun next year when 190,000 BEVs hit the secondhand market.
@@tobycolin6271 The problem with the UK is the broken energy market, supported by a criminally corrupt government, neither of which have any long term interest in change.
What is ridiculous is that we pay half a billion pounds to Scottish wind farms at night to STOP producing, since there's too much surplus.
The daytime solar may be less CO2, though it's only displacing demand for fossil so bit sure that's going to work out so well. Purple will charge when it's cheaper, bit when it's environmentally friendly.
Being sold on green wasn't my reason to buy.
Norway reference is an interesting one, one could argue that it's not green at all since it was funded by their selling off of their oil to be burned elsewhere. Just depends on how far back down the supply chain were go.
Ah yes all those vehicles hitting the second hand market. I'm sure the right wing press, GBC, macmaster and the crew will be talking about depreciation and in the same video how they're too expensive. Can't make their minds up! ;)
Depreciation is no factor for me, I don't tend to sell cars, I'm very bad at it. I'll hold long term since I've paid for FSD and now I'll bloody well wait for it to get enabled on the car. :)
@@djtaylorutube there just discussion points, I like your videos, and I like a debate to. There are many problems to overcome, and august, September and October terrible wind month’s supplemented with fossil fuels. January and November good wind months but fossil fuels supplement the heating of our homes. We need the BEVs owners to understand the grid problems and discuss them openly.
@@djtaylorutube depreciation is a real problem for EVs as it limits the supply to the 2nd hand market and the cars that company car drivers have on finance will mean the Finance rates go up. I know that a large pest control company is going back to diesel as the time to charge and finance on light commercial vehicles is to expensive. This alone has a major impact on the secondhand market as there is no LCVs coming through for 2026 and beyond.
June?
Yep. It's the emergency back-up film. Will need to shoot another one for next time the planned film isn't ready...
Exactly
You don’t know exactly how many hours your Tesla will do,then spend all the time talking about exactly how many miles it will do !!😂
Yeah, that and panel gaps. Who cares.
Point them out, I can't see any in the video (or on my car)
Maybe I should have been clearer. I meant that range, like panel gaps is unimportant
@@gareth5000 got it :)
Would not support the Right wing Magahead Musk .The Tesla badge is a political badge , give me a Ford or Toyota .
I have no interest in American politics
I would think most people are aware that Musk is interfering in the Ukrainian war and supporting the re-election of Trump .
Having no interest in that is a bit strange.@@justgetatesla
You also don't care your car comes from a pro Russian Fascist and it does not matter 🤣
Meh
@@justgetateslaas long as It's not you, who cares
Your point? Every car company isn’t walking on water
@@badtoro which other ones are helping Russians,in their war which others ones run media outlets that are tools for authoritarian propaganda. I'll wait