@@MintJoyPictures you do know persona is on the list of Collab's leaked, and so far all of them have been right the recent one being Pirates of the Caribbean
I wouldn't give up Hope on a Collab, as a Metal Gear fan I begged for YEARS For Snake to be added to the Game. And only recently my wish came true. If Lethal Company of all games can get a Fortnite Collab, and with how Altus Loves to collab with literally everything else, I think it's only a matter of time before we eventually see this collab happen.
I swear to God I saw the render for Chapter 4 Season 4, immediately thought of the image at 4:16 and nearly had a heart attack thinking we would have a Persona collab. I mean, come ON that was a thievery based season.
They missed the perfect opportunities for Chapter 4 season 4 for P5 and Chapter 5 season 2 for P3R. Like the story of each season could have made a good excuse to collab with them.
Ok but like Chapter 4 season 4 was literally perfect for a P5 collab It was a season about thievery and the main color was red Also I played it for the first time while it was on that season, so would had been really cool for me lol
I’m still mad we got Star Wars in the Chapter 4 Season 4 battle pass instead of Joker. Like, c’mon, it would’ve been perfect. Red-colored heist theme and everything. Though, I’ll be honest, if this actually became real I’d be just as satisfied with waiting. Great video!
if they do collab, i at least want some skins for the other protags. I need Goatkoto Yuki. And also fuck it Igor skin, built in harvesting tool will be his nose.
I was thinking that all of the skins could have a built-in emote that could swap them between their real world outfits and their phantom thief oufits, the poses resembling the ones from their all out attack screens, which would also sync with the Morgana back bling, swapping him as well
I love to see someone rise give the same crossover idea! (BUT SERIOUSLY WHY DIDNT THEY GIVE US A PERSONA 5 CROSSOVER IN CHAPTER 4 SEASON 4, INSTEAD OF ASOKA) Anyways keep up the good work! :)
in my own perfect world, persona 5 was the mid season collaboration and the gang had an impact on the storyline by stealing kado thornes heart to make him give up the time machine
For a location, I think the best one would be kamoshidas castle(but they would need to either edit or remove anything with him being in his underwear) or Madarames museum. They both could work depending on the theme. Unless they do an ancient Egyptian style season then Futabas palace is the best choice.
i think another good backbling is a calling card, or a treasure that can change it's appearance (like ones from the game or a llama loot crate treasure or medallion). completeing the story quests or hidden missions (maybe a walkie talkie that connects you to morgana) can unlock more treaures for the back bling.
Alternit morgana back bling: call it morganas throne, base style is is him siting the chair from his all out attack, with edit styles including his dancing outfit(with an actual Thorne) and then the bag one with cat form when you get school boy joker
Aditionaly we could get and emote thats jokers vickory run with the trail and music or to rep 3 and 4 have a persona suming emote with finger guns or crushin tarot cards just without personas
This was a fun video. Would love to discuss the possibility of what would be in a persona 3 collab. 😂😊 And the ideas about the seasonal themes was really on point as well. I really like your conception.
Not a huge Persona fan but the fact if this happens We will have another game with Ryu, Solid Snake, and Joker all in the same game but on a different battle field If they do decide to go further, Life Will Change and Rivers in the Desert Jam Tracks would be cool!!!
calling card backbling for ryuji. mona bus suv skin. some collabs also get 4 skins (1 bp 3 shop) so i think adding akechi would be fine. also its crazy how we have had 2 seasons that have a persona game release during them that would also fit the theme
I know I have nothing to prove with what I’m about to say but I know some people who were the ones who made this leak and apparently the status of a persona collab coming to Fortnite has been put on hold as of now. I don’t know why it’s on hold but something tells me that it’ll definitely happen as there were past Fortnite collabs that were rumored based on leaks which didn’t come out until years later. for example that the Family Guy collab was rumored to happen back in 2021 and didn’t become a thing until late 2023 due to delays (according to that internal Disney leak of this year) so there’s still some hope.
hear me out, wave 1: joker, skull, and panther and a morgana truck suv skin wave 2: fox, queen, and noir secret skin: akechi with his alt variant crew skin: oracle thoughts?
I think a emot when Joker will pass in his other suit would be nice, like he use his phone, mementos effects and paf, the other suit, and maybe Morgana transforming too
Adding to this, maybe morgana back bling works with this also. So to every skin it’s just a black cat in a bag, but use a phantom thief transformation and you get morgana’s metaverse in the bag now
I might of found out about this channel a few days ago but I'm already excited to see what she has the offer can't wait to see the other video Btw to the creator of this channel you make great videos and keep up with the amazing work you make 😊
The fortnite lore is totally open for Persona after all the fortnite island is literally a trash hole for fiction , the fortnite lore allows it because of the zero point personally im still waiting for bleach, and devil may cry collab
I think that the starting personas from 3-5 would work really really well, Orpheus, Izanagi, and Arsene. Maybe also thanatos, because he probably has my favorite design out of any character in general, imagine a coffin wing glider
Sumire is a bit easier to figure out. Her skin would be the violet outfit alternate would probably be her ballet outfit from her social link cutscene. Back bling would most likely be her sword or the purple ribbon from her all out attack. She might not get a unique glider, but they can probably give her an emote based on the dance she does in the school dance cutscene.
Hey! Just wanted to say nice video. while Im not sure if Fortnite would ever do a collab with p5. i did try to do some justice for p5 by charting last surprise and playing it in fortnite festival on my channel. hopefully epic does add in persona 5 :)
for a backbling they can du like the sith droid or baby yoda backpling and have a pesone flying behind you just scale the persona to be smaler so it does not take to much of the screen and with this idea they kan make even more personas into a backbling like jack frost, pyro jack etc.
I'll say it now and even if it doesn't make as MUCH sense as the Morgana Bag but we've seen weird looking back-blings before (such as Thanos Backbling) but you could have the misty form a treasure takes before it materializes once a Palace Ruler becomes aware of the thieves going after their heart (or well... anyone for that matter but still.), it could even be a bonus item rather than specifically for Joker as (although VERY rarely) we've seen back-blings be sold as their own seperate item before! That's all I got though to be honest.
imo i think they could’ve done a persona 5 collab during Chapter 4 Season 4. THAT WAS THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO COLLAB! Heist theme and in Persona 5 you do heists. Cmon epic, and Sega.
I would really want a Persona 5 crossover, as well as a Death Note crossover. This might push it a lil but I hope they also do a Winx Club Crossover with their Enchantix forms!!
I have some good news for you 2 years ago Epic games did talk with the team.That's behind the Persona Games especially persona 5 and they are planning to make a collaboration We just need to be patient
Another backbling/glider idea is the tarot card for the respective arcana like Fool, Lovers, Magician etc. Also don't sleep on Kasumie/Violet. Her thief attire is so strong non persona fans will probably buy the skin just for the look. Shadow Sae Nijima and Queen as well.
What I think would work best for Joker would be to have him be able to change styles between his school uniform and Phantom Thief outfit through an emote. This has become pretty rare nowadays and Fortnite seems to put less care into secret battle pass skins so it's unlikely, but it could really help for the backbling by making it change when Joker transforms. Having the bag with cat Morgana in it when you have the school to having Metaverse Morgana probably on a chair like in his all-out attack pose or something when Joker changes. It's pretty unlikely, but I think it would be the best.
A Crossover that I think will come at some point is in a future smash game. With Joker being the first DLC fighter from Ultimate, there is a chance for more characters to come in the future. This can be two different characters either the P6 protagonist or a character of 3 and 4 if it is 3 or 4 it is probably Aigis because of 3 reload and because of Orgia Mode making her different from joker
Honestly, i think Ren Would be the Base Style... just so they Can Name him "Ren amamiya" considering "The Joker" is Already a Skin, and they'd Need to Preserve "Joker" due to "The Joker" Being an Exlusive skin that Expires 2025. Akin to "Dr.Doom" and "Doom" Similar things Happen with Megumi > Megumi Fushiguro Raven > Raven (Rebirth) It's just that Joker's Happens with Both Names
Hold up, i did saw a tweet of Shiina it was possible that Fortnite could collabed with Persona 3 reload but after the update, it never happend i do hope there is a possibility in September because of the Aigis Episode, maybe thats the shot where they can collab and if not, then i will wait as well until they are adding them in and buy them (except if Fate/Stay Night comes first)
I think for gliders for Ryuji and Ann, Ryuji can probably hop on captain kids ship and for Ann, it would be awesome to see her get picked up by Futaba’s persona Necronomicon. Akechi is probably the trickiest one to figure out. His skins would be his white crow outfit and alternate design would be his black armor crow. Glider would probably be Shidos ship from mementos. His back bling would be his brief case he carries in the main story.
I have a bit more of a realistic idea 4 skins being aigis makoto narukami and joker with a teddie koro jackfrost and Morgana backblings and each of there main personas along with there main elements zio bufu phys curse maybe put joker in a mini pass mid season
I'm a bit confused on how having mid evil towns and ancient weapons would represent a series thats part dating sim and part "dungeon" crawler with turn based attacks (which only have a single gun based basic attack option).. Instead, having some city POIs based in the main towns and locations of the most known persona games 3/4/5, along with the castle from persona 5 and tower from persona 3 along with some mythics based around some of persona attacks.. and the theme? easy.. the areas from several persona games have mysteriously appear on the island and you have to help the NPCs from the games solve the mystery of how it happened and how to undo it
Each of the thieves could have a little plushie of their persona as their backbling
Genius idea!
Yeah same
Calling Card
If they have those, a Jack Frost and Mona plushies would be good.
@@MintJoyPictures you do know persona is on the list of Collab's leaked, and so far all of them have been right the recent one being Pirates of the Caribbean
2 reasons why i want this collaboration. 1 persona skins and 2 fortnite festivals song tracks from persona 3-5
@@Suomibrit and they can make mona car in rocket racing
@@peppe_5 and Rocket League
I NEEED LAST LAST SURPRISE BY LYN
Songs from persona won't be added to festival most likely cuz it seems like a lot of work. Don't get me wrong! I'd fucking love to get proven wrong.
@@Sunaru6914 i mean they put out soo many song of various types so i dont think its that impossibile to happen
also the fact we got pranked with the supposed persona 3 reload collab just hurts
I think it's still possible, they were probably holding out until the aigis dlc drops in September
@@primeoctober i hope so man, i hope so
Phantom thief Jonesey
I wouldn't give up Hope on a Collab, as a Metal Gear fan I begged for YEARS For Snake to be added to the Game. And only recently my wish came true.
If Lethal Company of all games can get a Fortnite Collab, and with how Altus Loves to collab with literally everything else, I think it's only a matter of time before we eventually see this collab happen.
Joker's back bling could be the social stats star and will be reactive and increase with every elimination or smt
Morgana is right there
holy shit joker we gotta crack those 90s ‼️‼️
For real?
I wish we could hit the griddy as Joker
Technically..
i pray that we’ll be able to 🙏🙏
Griddy-off between Joker and Joker
I swear to God I saw the render for Chapter 4 Season 4, immediately thought of the image at 4:16 and nearly had a heart attack thinking we would have a Persona collab. I mean, come ON that was a thievery based season.
They missed the perfect opportunities for Chapter 4 season 4 for P5 and Chapter 5 season 2 for P3R. Like the story of each season could have made a good excuse to collab with them.
They did a collaboration with a Japanese BBQ place in the states before Fortnite
Ok but like Chapter 4 season 4 was literally perfect for a P5 collab
It was a season about thievery and the main color was red
Also I played it for the first time while it was on that season, so would had been really cool for me lol
The overlap between persona fans and fortnite fans is honestly very shocking, both are very addicting.
My wallet would never recover from this crossover
I’m still mad we got Star Wars in the Chapter 4 Season 4 battle pass instead of Joker. Like, c’mon, it would’ve been perfect. Red-colored heist theme and everything.
Though, I’ll be honest, if this actually became real I’d be just as satisfied with waiting. Great video!
Yea it’s genuinely shocking how heavily inspired that season was from P5 but had the most random collab to feature in it. Missed opportunity fr fr 😭
if they do collab, i at least want some skins for the other protags. I need Goatkoto Yuki. And also fuck it Igor skin, built in harvesting tool will be his nose.
I think chap 6 s1 is gonna be solely Japanese themed(probably similar to chap 4 s2 but less futuristic)so its possible
Source?
It's weird how Persona or Nier does not have a Collab with Fortnite
They’re missing out on both 😭
They’re gonna nerf 2B’s ykw
@@P3ashooter025for good reason
Idc if they have to nerf 2B a bit, they need to add her.
Yeah and Persona 5 collabed with Nier and abother battle roysle: Thieves out
I was thinking that all of the skins could have a built-in emote that could swap them between their real world outfits and their phantom thief oufits, the poses resembling the ones from their all out attack screens, which would also sync with the Morgana back bling, swapping him as well
(Insert that persona 3 “your dog is cracked at Fortnite” meme here)
awesome video and perfectly explained. I rlly would like a Fortnite X Persona 5 collab
I love to see someone rise give the same crossover idea!
(BUT SERIOUSLY WHY DIDNT THEY GIVE US A PERSONA 5 CROSSOVER IN CHAPTER 4 SEASON 4, INSTEAD OF ASOKA)
Anyways keep up the good work! :)
I know, Ahsoka looked so out of place in the season
in my own perfect world, persona 5 was the mid season collaboration and the gang had an impact on the storyline by stealing kado thornes heart to make him give up the time machine
So...uh there is Sega/Persona collab in the works, but it's on hold
For a location, I think the best one would be kamoshidas castle(but they would need to either edit or remove anything with him being in his underwear) or Madarames museum. They both could work depending on the theme. Unless they do an ancient Egyptian style season then Futabas palace is the best choice.
i think another good backbling is a calling card, or a treasure that can change it's appearance (like ones from the game or a llama loot crate treasure or medallion).
completeing the story quests or hidden missions (maybe a walkie talkie that connects you to morgana) can unlock more treaures for the back bling.
After following the Minty lore since the P6 production, this video was inevitable
Imagine if I could crank and Griddy 😔
This is a crossover i've always wanted to happen, I love your concept idea for a new season!!
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Also thank you so much for supporting us!
Alternit morgana back bling: call it morganas throne, base style is is him siting the chair from his all out attack, with edit styles including his dancing outfit(with an actual Thorne) and then the bag one with cat form when you get school boy joker
Aditionaly we could get and emote thats jokers vickory run with the trail and music or to rep 3 and 4 have a persona suming emote with finger guns or crushin tarot cards just without personas
That'll be cool to have the Phantom Thieves but I think it'll be more likely for them to just sell the protagonist of 3, 4 and 5 in the item shop
This was a fun video. Would love to discuss the possibility of what would be in a persona 3 collab. 😂😊
And the ideas about the seasonal themes was really on point as well. I really like your conception.
Not a huge Persona fan but the fact if this happens
We will have another game with Ryu, Solid Snake, and Joker all in the same game but on a different battle field
If they do decide to go further, Life Will Change and Rivers in the Desert Jam Tracks would be cool!!!
the gaming legends collaboration I've always wanted
calling card backbling for ryuji. mona bus suv skin. some collabs also get 4 skins (1 bp 3 shop) so i think adding akechi would be fine.
also its crazy how we have had 2 seasons that have a persona game release during them that would also fit the theme
I know I have nothing to prove with what I’m about to say but I know some people who were the ones who made this leak and apparently the status of a persona collab coming to Fortnite has been put on hold as of now. I don’t know why it’s on hold but something tells me that it’ll definitely happen as there were past Fortnite collabs that were rumored based on leaks which didn’t come out until years later.
for example that the Family Guy collab was rumored to happen back in 2021 and didn’t become a thing until late 2023 due to delays (according to that internal Disney leak of this year) so there’s still some hope.
@Windermed Even though this might be fake, thank you for giving me hope 🙏
Oh god please no, dont add a waterbending-like weapon. I can't do it again
*Uses Eigaon to drain your health
hear me out,
wave 1:
joker, skull, and panther and a morgana truck suv skin
wave 2:
fox, queen, and noir
secret skin:
akechi with his alt variant
crew skin:
oracle
thoughts?
Could work. But oracle isn’t really a fighter, so maybe they will make her a glider. And maybe they will switch her out with Wolf from scramble
@@dayknight03 or sumi for crew
Yo ! I enjoyed the video a lot ! Thank for your work 💝
i did'nt expect to see you here mint joy lol, also i absolutely would LOVE a persona collab(any persona btw)
in other words
CHIGUSAAA real
Having an adidas collab with persona before Fortnite is crazy work 😭🙏🏾
I think a emot when Joker will pass in his other suit would be nice, like he use his phone, mementos effects and paf, the other suit, and maybe Morgana transforming too
They should have transformation emotes that change them between phantom thief and regular clothes
Adding to this, maybe morgana back bling works with this also. So to every skin it’s just a black cat in a bag, but use a phantom thief transformation and you get morgana’s metaverse in the bag now
I might of found out about this channel a few days ago but I'm already excited to see what she has the offer can't wait to see the other video
Btw to the creator of this channel you make great videos and keep up with the amazing work you make 😊
Thank you for your support!
That's actually a really good theme idea.
🙏praying one day we will have joker or makoto from P3
The fortnite lore is totally open for Persona after all the fortnite island is literally a trash hole for fiction , the fortnite lore allows it because of the zero point personally im still waiting for bleach, and devil may cry collab
Agreed I need the wacky woohoo pizza man in fortnite he would fit so well
I think that the starting personas from 3-5 would work really really well, Orpheus, Izanagi, and Arsene. Maybe also thanatos, because he probably has my favorite design out of any character in general, imagine a coffin wing glider
Sumire is a bit easier to figure out. Her skin would be the violet outfit alternate would probably be her ballet outfit from her social link cutscene. Back bling would most likely be her sword or the purple ribbon from her all out attack. She might not get a unique glider, but they can probably give her an emote based on the dance she does in the school dance cutscene.
I've been addicted to Fortnite since chapter 1 season 4 😭
Same 😭
I would hope we get a phantom thief, Peter Griffin skin
I feel like it would make more sense for them to do the mini battle pass similar to what they did with aang or jack sparrow
4:33 If Joker ever Comes to A Battle Pass in the future he will no longer be exclusive
Big win on my book! 🥰
@@MintJoyPictures Agreed
People we’re guessing p3r in the Greek gods season be a persona 3 uses some Greek gods as personas
Summoning a Persona would be pretty sick, I also thought the Glider would be Wings of Rebellion, just like in Smash Bros.
Hey! Just wanted to say nice video. while Im not sure if Fortnite would ever do a collab with p5. i did try to do some justice for p5 by charting last surprise and playing it in fortnite festival on my channel. hopefully epic does add in persona 5 :)
3:09 How'd you butcher my name that badly
Maybe for Jokers' backbling, he could have tarot cards. In which you could choose whatever style card you want.
Just found this channel,loved the video,keep up the good work definitely earned a sub!
I was thinking it'd be neat if Ryuji's backbling was the ramen bowl gift he gives you in Royal
how has the playboy of videogame collabs not done a fortnite collab
for a backbling they can du like the sith droid or baby yoda backpling and have a pesone flying behind you just scale the persona to be smaler so it does not take to much of the screen and with this idea they kan make even more personas into a backbling like jack frost, pyro jack etc.
I'll say it now and even if it doesn't make as MUCH sense as the Morgana Bag but we've seen weird looking back-blings before (such as Thanos Backbling) but you could have the misty form a treasure takes before it materializes once a Palace Ruler becomes aware of the thieves going after their heart (or well... anyone for that matter but still.), it could even be a bonus item rather than specifically for Joker as (although VERY rarely) we've seen back-blings be sold as their own seperate item before!
That's all I got though to be honest.
Wait why would this collab actually be good
imo i think they could’ve done a persona 5 collab during Chapter 4 Season 4. THAT WAS THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO COLLAB! Heist theme and in Persona 5 you do heists. Cmon epic, and Sega.
I would really want a Persona 5 crossover, as well as a Death Note crossover. This might push it a lil but I hope they also do a Winx Club Crossover with their Enchantix forms!!
If this happens, they’ll call me Fry. “Take my money”
I have some good news for you 2 years ago Epic games did talk with the team.That's behind the Persona Games especially persona 5 and they are planning to make a collaboration We just need to be patient
For joker glider why not make arsene become the wings you glide down with just like in smash
Another backbling/glider idea is the tarot card for the respective arcana like Fool, Lovers, Magician etc.
Also don't sleep on Kasumie/Violet. Her thief attire is so strong non persona fans will probably buy the skin just for the look. Shadow Sae Nijima and Queen as well.
I mean persona 5 has crossed over with every mobile game under the sun it wouldn't be out of place to see it collab with fortnite
What I think would work best for Joker would be to have him be able to change styles between his school uniform and Phantom Thief outfit through an emote. This has become pretty rare nowadays and Fortnite seems to put less care into secret battle pass skins so it's unlikely, but it could really help for the backbling by making it change when Joker transforms. Having the bag with cat Morgana in it when you have the school to having Metaverse Morgana probably on a chair like in his all-out attack pose or something when Joker changes. It's pretty unlikely, but I think it would be the best.
4:20 im glad im not the only one who noticed this too. that was such a missed opportunity for a collab tbh
They should do a story mode where the Thieves invade the palace of the arcade kid from the main game.
nice pitch.
For back bling it could be Kamoshidas treasure as a call back to the start of the game and the origins
I need Aigis in Fortnite.
And when you use the emote it could play "Last Surprise"!
The backbling could be possible spoilers !!! Mona transforming into a helicopter
Chigusa looks so cool in your artstyle!
@@galacticwarrior9 You can thank our team’s artist Moto for it! I love her so much she’s my favorite skin in the game fr fr 🥰
Well, we've got Persona x Persona collab during Gamescom
A Crossover that I think will come at some point is in a future smash game. With Joker being the first DLC fighter from Ultimate, there is a chance for more characters to come in the future. This can be two different characters either the P6 protagonist or a character of 3 and 4 if it is 3 or 4 it is probably Aigis because of 3 reload and because of Orgia Mode making her different from joker
Honestly, i think Ren Would be the Base Style... just so they Can Name him "Ren amamiya" considering "The Joker" is Already a Skin, and they'd Need to Preserve "Joker" due to "The Joker" Being an Exlusive skin that Expires 2025. Akin to
"Dr.Doom" and "Doom"
Similar things Happen with Megumi > Megumi Fushiguro
Raven > Raven (Rebirth)
It's just that Joker's Happens with Both Names
He can be called Phantom Thief Joker, or something like that, as I think atlus would be a bit reluctant to let epic use any proper name with him
Hold up, i did saw a tweet of Shiina it was possible that Fortnite could collabed with Persona 3 reload but after the update, it never happend
i do hope there is a possibility in September because of the Aigis Episode, maybe thats the shot where they can collab
and if not, then i will wait as well until they are adding them in and buy them (except if Fate/Stay Night comes first)
There are two BIG reasons why I kept watching this video. obviously I was talking about fornite and persona
as much as i love persona it would make more sense for it to either be a mini pass or just pop up in the item shop
I blinked, now I'm here. Why am I here?
I think for gliders for Ryuji and Ann, Ryuji can probably hop on captain kids ship and for Ann, it would be awesome to see her get picked up by Futaba’s persona Necronomicon. Akechi is probably the trickiest one to figure out. His skins would be his white crow outfit and alternate design would be his black armor crow. Glider would probably be Shidos ship from mementos. His back bling would be his brief case he carries in the main story.
His pickaxe would be either of the swords he use and emote would be his first summoning of Loki.
Been praying for this to happen 🙏
dude a persona 3 collab would go crazy
I know SMT is NOT happening, but I'd really like a Flynn skin or Demi-Fiend skin and maybe a jack frost back bling
I have a bit more of a realistic idea 4 skins being aigis makoto narukami and joker with a teddie koro jackfrost and Morgana backblings and each of there main personas along with there main elements zio bufu phys curse maybe put joker in a mini pass mid season
aaaa your avatar is so cute!
Well that's sounds a good idea
I'm a bit confused on how having mid evil towns and ancient weapons would represent a series thats part dating sim and part "dungeon" crawler with turn based attacks (which only have a single gun based basic attack option).. Instead, having some city POIs based in the main towns and locations of the most known persona games 3/4/5, along with the castle from persona 5 and tower from persona 3 along with some mythics based around some of persona attacks.. and the theme? easy.. the areas from several persona games have mysteriously appear on the island and you have to help the NPCs from the games solve the mystery of how it happened and how to undo it
Bro, i don't even play Fortnite but if they ever add p5 characters to it i may start playing
Whilst not being a fan of Persona, I'd love a Persona x Fortnite collab
P5 should be a whole battle pass
If it does happen. Ill break my rule if mot spending money on the game just to get every bundle
That's a really cool idea!
ramen bowl for Ryuji backbling? (i have no idea for Ann's backbling)
900 hours is weak, get over 3000 and we can talk about an addiction