Coyote House On Coyote Vs. LS, Fastest Manual Coyote In New York, and High Horsepower Coyote Builds
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- Опубликовано: 14 дек 2023
- In todays episode we sit with Joe From Coyote House to talk about the Ford Mustang Coyote Platform and why he feels they are better than the Chevy LS. We also discuss his Gen 2 Mustang Coyote being one of the fastest manual in NY. Joe also breaks down the differences between all of the generations of the coyotes and which ones are the best to make the most power
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The Grey Goose, Lund’s 6 second car, is a FFRE built engine, 5.2 sleeved down to 5.0 and predator cams controlled by a Gen 2 factory ECU and a 6R80 with a 4R200 hub (it reset the record with a 6RLide) and some absolutely bonkers wizardry in the tune by Lund Jr to make this thing work. It’s shifting within 300rpm of the commands at well over 9k rpm. The turbo kit was designed by Lund Sr. and the craziest thing is the suspension part are mostly off the shelf stuff from Steeda and I believe UPR & Viking. Oh and it’s going to go even faster soon, they broke the record on less boost than they were using before the new turbos.
Flores said the dude who welded up the turbo wasn’t even experienced on it. Just gave it an attempt and ended up welding a really high class set up first try
@@Mangobrain82 I believe he wasn’t a turbo kit maker he was just a really good welder and was friends with Sr. and they worked together to make it, it’s wild how much knowledge Sr. Has
Get Lund Racing or @Alejandro Flores on the podcast for the true 100% coyote content.
This dude says everything Alejandro says and even does the mannerisms. lol he def watches his show.
@@TR99FRCya he called gen 2 king daddy like he does lol
U mean midnight performance
Or the guys at auto mafia since y’all are name dropping . Show some respect to those guys
@@waynejordan7473 nah they pp
Def one of my favorite guests so far. Super cool and humble dude
I went from ls to coyote and I don’t regret it, I now have 3 5.0’s and a gt350. I don’t think I’ll ever go back
What ls did you have?
How’d you feel about the reliability?
@@BoondocksBangBang my stock block 5.0 holds 1200whp perfectly fine. And my gt350 has never had a issue
@@BoondocksBangBang I had more problems with my ls 3 and ls9 then any ford
@@chasestoddard6984 B,llsht lol. It may be that you got all your recklessness out of your system with the ls but you aren't fo,ling anyone with your "stock block" statement. There's Ls allover the place getting that 1200 with stock bottom end.
Added some diversity nice to see more Muscle talk too the podcast. Got tired of hearing about beamers every week 😅
Other car pods like go hard basically only talks about built trucks witch limits your audience. Im a euro guy through and through but I love hearing about American and any type of car…
APPRECIATE ALL BUILDS PEOPLE
Amen to that
Thanks for the shout out, it's been 8.69 @158 mph on a 150 shot and paxton 2200sl with 3.33 pully
This episode was pretty cool. A lot of insight on the coyote platforms. From someone who drives an import, this was entertaining.
Autos are faster but nothing beats the feeling of actually driving the car , it’s an experience every time you get behind the wheel from a point of enjoying the car to the fullest without necessarily racing all the time . Save the manuals 💯
Very well explained. The engagement of actually shifting gears versus just pressing a pedal with your big toe
Joe is the greatest guy around! helped me with my coyote build! couldn't thank him enough!!
Happy to see him on here he’s a really good dude
Glad coyotes getting some love. Appreciate the diversity . Loving the podcast even more bro
This is the best episode imo Joe seems like an extremely down to earth knowledgeable and a humble individual
Congrats on the 100k tuks. Well deserved. Been following since Mod2fame. 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿. Motivation and inspiration for learning and growing.
Damn man I really don't watch these podcasts fully through but since it was about the COYOTE 🐺 I watched it the whole thing LOVE IT ❤ KEEP UP THE WORK MAN 💯💪
Whipple is twinscrew not toots
Both are top mount/ positive displacement blowers
@@BoostedF150 wrong comment
love these pods bro....keep 'em coming!
Thank you all for a great video. You guy's are awesome and as always I cannot wait for the next one! ✌️
I’d like this guy. The things he say about people doing it yourself and learning that’s what we need in this country.
This dude seems cool and he’s actually taking Alejandro’s advice and made a successful business of it. Congrats to him
Did he mention him in the video?
Coyote is King
I love that we’re able to learn about platforms that we’be thought about but have been completely unfamiliar with, that BMW interview was elite entertainment. Try and find a LEXUS shop next bro!
This was such a dope asss episode learned so much
Love how Aldowelds got a shoutout in this episode. They truly mentored me on the mechanics side.
The dual throttle body is for epa restrictions. They’re fitted with carbon traps in each intake.
Fire interview. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The podcast get better and better
Absolutely loving the coyote stuff!!!
Good watch! Sincerely, a Lund Tuned, stick shift S197 owner 😁
Good interview. It is always interesting watching younger guys talk about cars
For the gm platform, need to interview Ryan Steven’s at Gwatney performance, they hold the record for the fastest ls3 sbe in the 5th gen and the fastest LT1 sbe in the 6th gen. Them guys know their stuff !
I agree. Ryan and Jon from Max Effort Tuning are the GOATs
@@NoAbsolutlyNot facts bro
This fucking guy is amazing 😂 when he talks he breaks his shit down in detail every time! He got asked about the turbo and this guy said 12 different things about it and I was like what the fuvk does that mean 😂🎉🎉
Love this episode 👌🔥🔥
watching from tennessee! love your content keep shining
Finally a mustang. Been waiting for this.
love coyotes, coyote swap everything🔥🔥
Just got my swap driving 💪🏽
@@Rizzi33 yessir love to hear it, enjoy it!
Man dropped some knowledge . 💯🤙🏾.
It hits like a drunk step-dad 😂😂😂
Loved this video
Would love to see more content of things other than having the most power or who's the fastest. Maybe some drifters or rally guys would be dope. Just would like some all around car content
joe is the man!
You can tell he is humble
“its spinning 6th gear” IS CRAZYYYYY😂😂😂
The clip of that 80s Toyota starlet keeping up with that mustang is wild. 😅
We in here🇯🇲
The real reason why you see mustangs plowing into crows is the exact thing that the interview is about. That is, mustangs are the cheapest (relatively speaking) pony car that will make the most power with the least amount of money in mods. Meaning, 25-30k for a used car + about 12k in mods = 800+rwhp. If you want to cheap out? 8k in mods = 650-700whp. So, guys coming from the 4cyl or even some 6cyl cars see that and boom they buy it, can't handle it and crash. If you don't know how to drive and most importantly do not respect the car then you'll have a bad day. Also, the advance trac on these cars does suck! First time listener, great content! 👍
The real reason why is because of not investing into proper suspension mods and tires. THAT is what gets neglected on this platform by most owners who only shoot for big power.
Big difference in going sideways when you accelerate with a lot of power vs going straight like an arrow with proper suspension and tires.
@@BlackWhiteBeast very accurate assessment! 👌
Based on some interviews with Jr. I don’t think Lund has any interest in messing with gen 4 coyote stuff until someone else unlocks them or ford gives them the ability to.
Please do a pod on the vetts!! I need more info on the c6+7 platforms. 🙏🙏🙏
Just copped my hoodie, cant wait to get it!
Thank you for the support! 🙏🙏
We want a part 2 asap 😂‼️
Watching from San Francisco!
I had a gen 2 coyote and I pushed it to its limit for the 3 years that I owned it and I do have to say they can take a beating. I never had any issues with the motor. I had to sell it due to it getting high on mileage. I bought the car used with 50k ish and when I sold it, it had 115k. I purchased a 2013 GT500 to take its place.
Great guest
The coyote was actually first offered in 2010.5 with the basic GT badge still on the side. Not a lot were made but they are out there!
Yeaaaah…NO
Very true, if you bought a mustang late 2009 early 2010 you got a 4.6 after mid year the same 2010 got the 5.0. Man, that must have sucked! Lol
@@TR99FRC2011 model year built in 2010
@@timgrant6510 the comment above and the guy is implying they made 2010 model mustangs with 5.0…the 5.0 was a 2011 model.
@@TR99FRC no he isn’t he’s saying you could get them in 2010
Gotta restock on those small hoodies bro. We need em
Hptuners or sct will unlock the ecm then tuners like Lund etc will begin to tune them
Stangs are crazyy. Drag drift or track. He said he feels bad for anyone who bought a 4.6. I bought mine two years ago for 1600 put in another 35 and now i got a drifter. Cant complain for the money.
I love my 06 GT 4.6 !! Looks good, sounds great, and I got for 12k back in 2019 with a 4 year warranty and the car only had 23k miles on it from the original buyer.
Asking him asking him which motor is better to build was pointless once he said he didn’t really know about LS motors 🤷🏾♂️❗️
This pod was to advanced for me where should I start?
Anyway you could get someone on the podcast that covers LT motors?
Divided housing works to separate exhaust pulses so they dont interfere with each other
aye yo pause get my ish pushed is wild 30:34
Hellhorse 1600hp twin turbo stock also 5.4 coyote maybe the next gt500 and a Godzilla 6.5 also a possible plant
Yo I have 2017 vs s550 what should i do to add power fr fr ?
This guy is dope! I'm an import owner but he makes you want to own a 50🤔🤔🤔
The gen 4 coyote bottom end is different from other coyotes. The cylinders have been reinforced with a small piece of metal in the middle of the coolant passage. The oil pump gears are belt driven. That’s the only differences I have seen.
If I am not mistaken, Whipple and roots blowers are two different styles of power adder. Root are you traditional styles, lie your 6-71, 8-71, and 14-71 blower that use a propeller style blade and usually very large to the point it stick out of most hoods. Whipple is a twin screw blower that it more modern and doesn't have as much drag on the engine and is much lower profile which granted why it doesn't stick through the hood most of the time. Roots also make a lot of heat and are usually not able to make as much boost.
Whipple make big power on a yote platform
@5.0pooh69 Yea they do but they are twin screw blower which are better then roots blowers. The guy in vid said that they are all roots blower which they aren't
I see tukes organizing a side off hustle to get the fastest of the fastest to race and name them the actual street alphas like some type of track and make it some what like street racing oriented 😮😂
Great video, and if you want to know who has the fastest American muscle car in NY besides a Mustang, that would be me 🙋🏼♂️
This guy know his shit
I’m just learning about this world, this don’t even sound like English to me lol -running a geni v8 5.0 r spec
We got tons of coyote mustangs in houston going 7s even f150s bottom 8s. Come down to h town and interview midnight performance.
me casually trying to ignore the mustang revving in the back at 37min-40
Who says “I’ll get my shit pushed in”? Lol 😂
Ain't no way they get anyone on the Lund camp in here talking about Coyotes. I'd be super surprised if this channel would.
This guy was running an MT-82 this whole time. I kept thinking he had already done a tremec by now. But impressive. I’m scared to boost my 5.0 just for the trans.
It’s crazy how much misconception there is around the mt82 and tremec 3160. Automotive journalists are mostly responsible because they only test cars in stock form. Also they test drive cars for a short time and don’t dive into the true issues or own them to go through the entire experience of ownership yet they state which is better and spread the word to the masses. The tremec shifts smoother and feels better than the mt82 stock for stock so they will tell you the tremec is a better trans overall. However the real problem with the mt82 is the stock clutch. It prevents you from shifting at high rpm because it cannot disengage. Everytime this happens you have the driver usually trying to jam it into gear putting a lot of strain on the shift forks most likely breaking them. Then the mt82 gets blamed for having weak shift forks, when the clutch is the problem the whole time preventing the shift. Once you upgrade the clutch (McLeod, or Mantic twin disk) it allows it to shift perfectly. An aftermarket shifter is not even necessary nor the biggest problem but is commonly blamed as well. It will improve the notchiness feel for sure and when paired with a clutch the mt82 feels equal to the tremec. I think the stock clutch is also overlooked because it will hold plenty of power 700+ without slipping,however disengaging at high rpm is the problem. Also a lot of people are not willing to pull the trans to change the clutch or pay a shop to do so. The mt82 actually has a stronger gearset than the 3160 so for a boosted application when set up correctly, the mt82 is actually a better option imo. I have been running a 2019 gen 3 mt82 at 820whp since November of 2018 without a single issue.
@@braxtonbowers4154don’t me a 3160 I mean the T-56. One of the guys from Lund says they blow the bell housing quite a bit just guys are ashamed to say they have a 60k plus mustang with a similarly weak trans. But I have heard with the right clutch the mt-82 is stronger. I will say in my experience the shifter, stainless line, and making sure there is no air in the hydronic system is very important. My throwout bearing went out and I went back to a new stock everything except the shifter and line and I don’t regret it. As long as I warm up the car and warm up 2nd gear everything is smooth and I redline at stock redline all the time no problems. But if you don’t have a built trans it’s like the lottery. You might get a really good one or a really bad one. I’ve kept my car because even with my problems after I sealed everything all my gearing has been good and it’s smooth once warm. Also depends what trans oil works for yours BG worked for mine with the additive. I say all of this from having problems and learning and sticking to the platform. But I’m the first to say Ford should and can do better. We have to make them do better because if not we just keep accepting it and getting crap. And don’t get me wrong I love my car every time I drive it and like this guy will not buy an auto. Like a $36k Roush with 20k miles was put in front of me and I didn’t want it because it was a 10 speed. I’ve driven one stock and it drove me insane. I like shifting my own gear. But you decently need a good twin disk once you boost. Personally I want to stay NA because it’s fast enough for me and I want to keep the car for life. Maybe later in life.
@@braxtonbowers4154also on the 18-19 they are weaker. They are aluminum. 15-17 not much stronger but I had a guy with an ecoboost break them in the first year of ownership. Brand new car. That has scared be from buying anything after 18 and a few other weird choices from ford. But if they made a billet belly pan, stronger forks, better trans gearing I’d be swapping to one for the better quality of everything.
Im running Twins on my gen 1 coyote with a MT-82 750whp no issues.............. its been about 2 years
@@Black_Star_Raceryea I’ve heard of some people getting lucky on stock everything and never having a problems. One of those factory freaks maybe. The driver is also super important. Always hear of those people that had a stock clutch for over 100k miles.
There's a lot that wasn't covered in here that i wish had been covered there's quit a bit about centris, and engines, whipple options, etc.
Coyote Ford power forever baby the best of the best never rest they just keep getting better
If gen 2 in King I wonder wear the “Roadrunner” Boss 302 lands
Boss 302 is a continuation of the that engine. So the Boss 302 is actually King Daddy
"They work so good" CAP😂
Can we get some Lexus guys on the podcast tookes?
we need a interview with cleetus mcfarland ASAP!!!
I love that people are still pushing manuals.. My GT is... And everyone know's it so you know I have a ton of auto's wanting to race, and I don't really get into that A. because I am still stock and B. I bought my car for fun.. And nothing is more fun than a manual on weekend's..
Reason a roots blower is more effective a power vs a centrifugal supercharger is not because RPM. Not all boost is the same, roots blower provides massive amount of volume and thus more air density, also it’s right there and does not have to travel far. Pro chargers have to wind out because they have to push that volume with more speed, similar to a turbo. They all have their sweet spots and applications. An engine that winds out high in rpm range prefers a turbo because as long as the turbo is spected out correctly, it won’t out flow the engine.
It's like listening to two amateur magazine racers that pulled out of stomach catalog and started breaking out their horsepower calculator
If you're not far from me, I'll bring my 2023 Mach 1 to you to check out if you're interested in taking his advice of switching to mustang and getting this model.
Real Street Performance has a car called snot rocket that is going low 6s with stock block stock heads stock crank at over 2600hp
800 hp recipe. Fuel system blower and headers. Street car centri I think is best. Drives like stock until you don’t want it to
💯 centri. No traction til you get moving on the street so might as well have the power up top. Hellcats always seeing them pony taillights on the highway🤙
He confused me when he said a pro charger and a Paxton are good on and then that a centrifugal is bad on a manual. Aren’t they the same thing? Did he mean the roots style?
Interview Ryan Steven’s from Gwatney performance innovation
I like muscle cars v8s, but it's not challenging. I like to challenge myself with the Working with minimal inline 4 to create maximum power up against a v8. With a V8(it has 8 cylinders) it's easy to make power to 1k out of the production line with little to nothing. Whether It's LS series or Coyotes motors. it's played out like Honda scene of "oh i got a k swap and b swap! on bolt ons" vs I got a K/B swap with some real custom engineering head and bottom end work to it like 4piston type of work.. showing the craftsmanship of your work out there is what makes it competitive and fun! because Everybody can buy an Ls V8 or A/B/C/D/F/G/H/I/J/K series swap
19:20 isn't a Whipple a screw blower and not a Roots?
6.79 is what Lund went stock ECU. They are at TX2k now and probably will go faster.
I need to get with someone like this.. All I want is a stage 1 Whipple like 650 wheel on 93 pump gas no E85. can't find it where I live but 650 would make me happy totally... I don't want anything too crazy.. I want safe Daily able. I mean safe like my cars not going to blow up because we are pushing 850 900 wheel..
This is how 2 8th graders sound talking about cars
The Broyote energy is real
How much is an awe 5.0
Represent🇵🇦
Get RSPDMV in there next
I’m sorry but 10k no labor included. The LS is the best bang for the buck, 10k can make 1k whp reliably while the coyote wouldn’t touch 800whp with the same price… and I own a Gen 3 coyote. I love my mustang but miss the cheap reliable power you can make out of LS cars and get added bonus of a chop
Bring midnight performance and on d has to the pod cast
You have to go to an 80+ just to make over 1000whp? I don’t see why that wouldn’t be doable with anything at a 72mm or bigger easily.
It's crazy how much this guy says the same exact word for word thing as Alex Flores but it's all legit so I'm listening