Man i remember following the demo guide and getting op only to realize that... i dont even plan on playing the game on switch and ima just wait for a pc release lol
I wouldn't count on that... NIS isn't in a good position. They have finical issues and if you don't support them now there might never be a PC release. Also if the game doesn't sell well... there might never be a PC release. So you buying it is huge.
I am leveling items with 3 characters doing the damage & skip, while i have 7 thiefs focusing on Chests / Level Spheres / Grand Theft (in that order). Also have autosell on anything except Legendary & Etc. Items (I need the Gencys for later, when I spam 100 floors for unique inoccents)
My guess with the slowdown is that they mean the brief moment of when Auto Battle starts a stage, the game lags from spawning the units. Having copies of the same unit in my experience makes this unnoticable, while all 10 "unique" characters coming out hits performance
No, the slowdown references the delay between units taking action. you are correct though that different "models" coming out of the base panel causes terrible lag
It may also be cause by being in Graphics mode instead of Performance mode. I personally noticed a very significant difference when I switched from Graphics to Performance.
One thing I've found which is kinda paradoxical, is that you can immensely increase your item point gain by 'leveling up' the items you find the most. I invested a little bit of time in leveling both the true yoshitsuna and the ultimus, and sure enough every legendary one of them I find is over a million item points all on its own - and my item squad finds tons of them. With a little groundwork out of the way you can really start to stack the points up I think. It's particularly relevant because, in some higher level items, rank 39 gear is pretty much 95% of the legendaries and rares you find.
The time it takes to level up items is better spent leveling your endgame items and trading in the quantity of rares and legends for item points, a level 9999 R40 rak trap is only 20 million item points, you can get that in 5 minutes just spamming a carnage item with a war lady
@@Primalliquid92 That's what I'm saying though - if all the items you found in that 5 minutes were level 9999 instead of level 1 then you'd get, in theory, 200 million. I definitely am not suggesting farming just one item over and over, but if you level up an item that you find alot, it increases it's value going forward. It takes like 3 hours to take an item from level 1 to level 9999, which is definitely a while, but I'm just considering that it's a permanent upgrade to the amount of item points you'll get, forever. Every time you find an item it drops at the highest level you've leveled it up to. I mostly just look at it from the perspective of maximizing the amount you can gain. If you're going to need billions of item points per item, and, it seems like, we can't dupe them, then you'll wind up grinding that out one way or another. The leveling grind in a high level item is comparatively small compared to how many points you'll need for the bills. Essentially, for the time to level 6 items, every time you find those items in the future they'll be worth 10 times what they would have been. I'm not sure whether it's most worth while to do it at normal, carnage, or rakshasa - I just know that it's ramped my profits up alot in the short term.
@@BackupHamsterz what you say is not wrong at all. I'm already at a point where I can level raksasha R39 items to 9999. It definitely takes a while though but I'm already at a point where I'm getting over a billion points. The Sundaes and Mushroom Soups are worth so much when maxed
Especially with research squad can passively level 10 items at a time with that plus farm items for points and innocents which super useful early post game
@@BackupHamsterz i didn't realize that was why some items dropped with levels on them and some didn't. thank you! i definitely see the value in raising one each of the rakshasa R39 items to max. even the mushroom soup and sundaes.
Do you get the Treasure Hunt evility just from Super Reincarnation? None of my characters have it yet, but i haven't done much reincarnation grinding yet either.
Wow never mind I'm dumb. I just noticed that it's a unique evility. But not before grinding out the rest of my reincs to get all the other evilities. So i guess it worked out.
I'm only getting 150m/hr optimistically with this setup. I've swapped corpse cannibal for your mana charge and have my D.I. and evilities optimized af. All effects skipped. Blitzkrieg the IW of my carnage trishula in no time at all. (4-5k lvls/hr). Am I doing something wrong?
@@Primalliquid92 Appreciate the reply, you get a sub for that for sure. However: I'm running r40 now (providence) with only ~100m improvement/hr, on average, after testing (between 175m-250m). Any other advice? The robo girl(s) are strong enough to one hit kill everything and are equipped with the all the status nulling innocents awa combo maker. I've been searching around on forums and your strategies are quite popular, but I'm encountering other users with similar track records here. We must be missing SOMETHING, but what? Idk. Anyway, at least it's a little faster in this R40. I'll try to nab a trap and see if that does anything to my p/h. Thanks again.
@@Primalliquid92 4x Treasure hunter did the trick. Idk if you're using that and I didn't notice or what but, yeah. Also you can farm extracts simultaneously with this method using zed's rebirth evility. also means additional chests for more chests/floor. slows tho by about ~1 second so will have to see which is most optimal after some further testing.
For the auto sell, that's not how I read it. I believe it means it sells for the USUAL 1/100 price. As in things already sell for 1/100 of their purchase price. I believe you get the same amount whether it auto sells or you manually sell it.
incorrect, your more than welcome to test for yourself. my results were 1 hour carnage farming with a war lady. Auto sell 0 5.63m after 60 minutes. Manually sell rares and legends - 597m at 60 minutes, now obviously there is some varience here because of rng on rarity but that doesnt matter for the purpose of this conversation.
@@Primalliquid92 Yeah I tried to test it a couple times but I still haven't beaten the story mode. Good to know real results after a real test lol. My comment was more of a guess on how I perceived the wording. Thanks for the information!
is it worth it to set up some thieves to steal items in the carnage item world while you're grinding? or is it too low of a chance to justify the time investment?
@Primalliquid any chance we can get a updated mana farming guide? when you have time of course im trying to get my hands on that skip all feature see how fast it makes grinding
hey primal ive been stuck in rikshasa final level i even maxed out all my characters lvl wise but i can only defeat like 3 or 4 enemies with my mage with the dimension attack :( any tips?
check out my superguide, you shouldnt be using a mage in lategame. you need to be using other things like combo maker for rakshasa items, use carnage items for unique innocents until your capable of properly leveling a R40 rakshasa item
Is there a way to exit the item world without a gency AND with innocent towns turned off? I don't get the option to leave after clearing a 10th floor and my gency exits are running low.
its unneeded imo, even at level 6000 i deal 50-60x more damage than they have health anyway, a good change would be to use the unique innocent which gives a 10% chance to turn mobs into chests
no not even close because bought items are 0 rarity and they give like 5 item points, even if you though the cap of 2000 items thats only 10k item points, you get more than 4-5 times that on a single IW stage
Well it's a "2nd generation" release because it released months earlier in japan. They'll probably release a complete edition with all the dlcs some year after like they normally do.
because auto sell only gives you 1/100 of the points and commons give nothing anyway. this way you stack up on 1800+ rares and legends to sell for 500-600m when doing the war lady strat, sure you can auto sell if you want and end up with just 5 million points, thats upto you
Man i remember following the demo guide and getting op only to realize that... i dont even plan on playing the game on switch and ima just wait for a pc release lol
I wouldn't count on that... NIS isn't in a good position. They have finical issues and if you don't support them now there might never be a PC release.
Also if the game doesn't sell well... there might never be a PC release. So you buying it is huge.
I am leveling items with 3 characters doing the damage & skip, while i have 7 thiefs focusing on Chests / Level Spheres / Grand Theft (in that order).
Also have autosell on anything except Legendary & Etc. Items (I need the Gencys for later, when I spam 100 floors for unique inoccents)
My guess with the slowdown is that they mean the brief moment of when Auto Battle starts a stage, the game lags from spawning the units. Having copies of the same unit in my experience makes this unnoticable, while all 10 "unique" characters coming out hits performance
No, the slowdown references the delay between units taking action. you are correct though that different "models" coming out of the base panel causes terrible lag
It may also be cause by being in Graphics mode instead of Performance mode. I personally noticed a very significant difference when I switched from Graphics to Performance.
You could replace Magic collection by Corpse Cannibal to let your Full Strike to higher level dood :-) ( you'll have full HP and SP with Corpse )
One thing I've found which is kinda paradoxical, is that you can immensely increase your item point gain by 'leveling up' the items you find the most. I invested a little bit of time in leveling both the true yoshitsuna and the ultimus, and sure enough every legendary one of them I find is over a million item points all on its own - and my item squad finds tons of them. With a little groundwork out of the way you can really start to stack the points up I think. It's particularly relevant because, in some higher level items, rank 39 gear is pretty much 95% of the legendaries and rares you find.
The time it takes to level up items is better spent leveling your endgame items and trading in the quantity of rares and legends for item points, a level 9999 R40 rak trap is only 20 million item points, you can get that in 5 minutes just spamming a carnage item with a war lady
@@Primalliquid92 That's what I'm saying though - if all the items you found in that 5 minutes were level 9999 instead of level 1 then you'd get, in theory, 200 million. I definitely am not suggesting farming just one item over and over, but if you level up an item that you find alot, it increases it's value going forward. It takes like 3 hours to take an item from level 1 to level 9999, which is definitely a while, but I'm just considering that it's a permanent upgrade to the amount of item points you'll get, forever. Every time you find an item it drops at the highest level you've leveled it up to.
I mostly just look at it from the perspective of maximizing the amount you can gain. If you're going to need billions of item points per item, and, it seems like, we can't dupe them, then you'll wind up grinding that out one way or another. The leveling grind in a high level item is comparatively small compared to how many points you'll need for the bills.
Essentially, for the time to level 6 items, every time you find those items in the future they'll be worth 10 times what they would have been. I'm not sure whether it's most worth while to do it at normal, carnage, or rakshasa - I just know that it's ramped my profits up alot in the short term.
@@BackupHamsterz what you say is not wrong at all. I'm already at a point where I can level raksasha R39 items to 9999. It definitely takes a while though but I'm already at a point where I'm getting over a billion points. The Sundaes and Mushroom Soups are worth so much when maxed
Especially with research squad can passively level 10 items at a time with that plus farm items for points and innocents which super useful early post game
@@BackupHamsterz i didn't realize that was why some items dropped with levels on them and some didn't. thank you! i definitely see the value in raising one each of the rakshasa R39 items to max. even the mushroom soup and sundaes.
Can't wait to give this a try.
Thank you for the video
What's golden touch? And where can I get it?
Do you get the Treasure Hunt evility just from Super Reincarnation? None of my characters have it yet, but i haven't done much reincarnation grinding yet either.
you get it from maxing the thief class
Wow never mind I'm dumb. I just noticed that it's a unique evility. But not before grinding out the rest of my reincs to get all the other evilities. So i guess it worked out.
What would be the best way to get lots of mr gency exit? i would like to farm lots of them so i can get unique innocents on my gear
I'm only getting 150m/hr optimistically with this setup. I've swapped corpse cannibal for your mana charge and have my D.I. and evilities optimized af. All effects skipped. Blitzkrieg the IW of my carnage trishula in no time at all. (4-5k lvls/hr). Am I doing something wrong?
your running a low end item, run a rank r40 or at the very least R39
@@Primalliquid92 Appreciate the reply, you get a sub for that for sure.
However: I'm running r40 now (providence) with only ~100m improvement/hr, on average, after testing (between 175m-250m).
Any other advice? The robo girl(s) are strong enough to one hit kill everything and are equipped with the all the status nulling innocents awa combo maker.
I've been searching around on forums and your strategies are quite popular, but I'm encountering other users with similar track records here. We must be missing SOMETHING, but what? Idk.
Anyway, at least it's a little faster in this R40. I'll try to nab a trap and see if that does anything to my p/h. Thanks again.
@@Primalliquid92 4x Treasure hunter did the trick. Idk if you're using that and I didn't notice or what but, yeah.
Also you can farm extracts simultaneously with this method using zed's rebirth evility. also means additional chests for more chests/floor. slows tho by about ~1 second so will have to see which is most optimal after some further testing.
Where do I find the Hasty Rush evility?
For the auto sell, that's not how I read it. I believe it means it sells for the USUAL 1/100 price. As in things already sell for 1/100 of their purchase price. I believe you get the same amount whether it auto sells or you manually sell it.
incorrect, your more than welcome to test for yourself. my results were 1 hour carnage farming with a war lady.
Auto sell 0 5.63m after 60 minutes.
Manually sell rares and legends - 597m at 60 minutes, now obviously there is some varience here because of rng on rarity but that doesnt matter for the purpose of this conversation.
@@Primalliquid92 Yeah I tried to test it a couple times but I still haven't beaten the story mode. Good to know real results after a real test lol. My comment was more of a guess on how I perceived the wording. Thanks for the information!
is it worth it to set up some thieves to steal items in the carnage item world while you're grinding? or is it too low of a chance to justify the time investment?
no because the items are only normal quality, so its not worth the time or space in your inv
@Primalliquid any chance we can get a updated mana farming guide? when you have time of course im trying to get my hands on that skip all feature see how fast it makes grinding
14-5 with mana evilities and fortune song instead of exp evilities, then just hog all mana
hey primal ive been stuck in rikshasa final level i even maxed out all my characters lvl wise but i can only defeat like 3 or 4 enemies with my mage with the dimension attack :( any tips?
check out my superguide, you shouldnt be using a mage in lategame. you need to be using other things like combo maker for rakshasa items, use carnage items for unique innocents until your capable of properly leveling a R40 rakshasa item
Reincarnate + Grind, the answer to all things Disgaea.
You might wanna cheese it with paralysing everything since they seem to be immune to poison then use Combo Maker and a Max Atk character
Is there a way to exit the item world without a gency AND with innocent towns turned off? I don't get the option to leave after clearing a 10th floor and my gency exits are running low.
no
I think to optimize your second best method, I’d just use the unique innocent(s) that gives you back SP per turn so you can spam the 9999 full strike
its unneeded imo, even at level 6000 i deal 50-60x more damage than they have health anyway, a good change would be to use the unique innocent which gives a 10% chance to turn mobs into chests
Would buying items be faster? And then grinding money.
no not even close because bought items are 0 rarity and they give like 5 item points, even if you though the cap of 2000 items thats only 10k item points, you get more than 4-5 times that on a single IW stage
How many item points would you need to max out a raksasha Trap?
18b for 300b stat cap, 60b for 999b stat cap.
@@reunionreunion2386 thanks does this include hp and sp or just the other stats?
What D.I. Mecha Girl?
Are you on performance mode or balanced?
If you set the switch to be locked to 720p in docked mode, the game runs better even with graphics.
Primal lick weed? Not quite how you spelled it.
Hey can you guys explain the limitations of statistician
One max level (900) per unit
Where do you get the neo baal sword from?
Beating Rakshasa Baal, one imagines
Steal it during Baal fight
I was surprised that there was 4 free dlc characters besides the hololive dlc
Well it's a "2nd generation" release because it released months earlier in japan. They'll probably release a complete edition with all the dlcs some year after like they normally do.
uh, why not do autosell and afk overnight?
because auto sell only gives you 1/100 of the points and commons give nothing anyway. this way you stack up on 1800+ rares and legends to sell for 500-600m when doing the war lady strat, sure you can auto sell if you want and end up with just 5 million points, thats upto you