@@WildWestExtravaganza It would be of great value to explain the points of Democrat and Republican Parties having overwhelming ly swapped agendas post Civil War, (over time and more easily observable in the era following the war and around the Turn of the Century). Clearly President Lincoln reflected the traits of a Moderate Liberal, although the Southerners would have seen him as a far Left Liberal at the time of Emancipation. The Democrats of the era being the supporters of segregation and prejudice laws towards the Freed Men. The African American Man could Legally Vote prior to Suffrage success. Although the Southern States superseded their Right and thus it was the 1960's when they were finally allowed to vote in the South. The South remained Democrat with the shift to Republican beginning in the post Kennedy era and went consistently Red in the Reagan era. Funny that the Republicans ignore the fact and have an Annual "Lincoln Day Dinner". (I use to tease my late Brother-n-Law" about this, he was a big Republican and Chairman of the County Commission in Memphis for years. He was what I call a GOP Republican, a Moderate and * a Moderate Democrat, routinely we saw eye to eye on subjects, with the exception of Corporations and their Political Socio-Economic influence, moving the USA from Capitalism to Corporatism, (he didn't agree that was happening) it did with the efforts of Bush Sr and Jr, hiding in the shadow of Reagan, who set the scenario for the progression, but I don't think he realizes what he was allowing for.). (It has and I am fully opposed to the system.) However, the GOP Republicans were generally highly ethical, Eisenhower Republicans (like the late McCain, AZ) and would not/do not hold much in common with the DT Republicans. Large gap. At any rate, Party changes over time, is an expected occurrence as Humanity evolved and progresses, although it appears like a regression at times, (but that's largely a fear based resistance to change). "Discernment rather than Judgemental" The more folks come to receive Knowledge, the greater the Clarity, and this brings a Harmony that allows for attention to focus on the fuller picture, rather than being distracted on the "Commentaries Produced to keep the Public divided.) "Peace is found where Higher Minds Exist and Cooperation is a Desired Expectation." I appreciate your efforts to be fair in your descriptions, and holding a largely Moderate perspective. Beth Bartlett Sociologist/Behavioralist and Historian
Hey Josh mate, I listen on apple podcast but subscribed here for the algorithm. I found your channel a few months ago and have binged almost every episode, 12 to go! You suggested watching Deadwood in an earlier episode and my wife and I absolutely demolished all three seasons in 3 weeks, which I then had to back and revisit your Bill Hickok series. Anyway, absolutely loving everything you put out mate and just wanted to share my appreciation. Keep it up. Much love, from way down south in Australia.
Love your channel. You do a great job and hope you keep it up. I would like to hear you tell the story of the ( wild horse lake massacre) I don't know if you have heard of it. I think you would like it if you haven't heard of it . I live way out in the country in the Oklahoma panhandle. About 3 miles from were this took place. This story has not widely known and it will blow you away. The Oklahoma panhandle is no man's land. Back in the day it had no law. There isn't much of a lake there because he'll this is the Oklahoma panhandle but it was a watering place for the buffalo and there is a hole nother story with Bill Tillman when he was a marshal in Dodge City and came dawn for a buffalo hunt and almost got killed by lndians. Anyhow it has some good stories behind it. Might give you some good subjects to work with. Feel free to contact me if you need any information I can help you with. Looking forward to listening to any stories you put out. Keep it up you ROCK
Josh, another no nonsense story about Pat Garrett. You are becoming a pretty good investigating author of the Wild West . Keep up the good work! Between you and me Lee murdered Fountain and his boy.
Great job again. It sure is funny how life builds these connections like the ones in this snippet demonstrate. Thanks for keeping these stories alive and making it interesting for, hopefully, future generations. Although this was shorter than the long format the quality even in editing seems to be improving. Kudos. Keep up the good work and I look forward to the next installment.
What is wrong with youtube!?? Here it is, 17 hours after it was posted and only just now was I notified! I've been waiting ever not so patiently, and RUclips falls down on the job!!! Smdh better late than ever so here we go!!! I know it's going to be a great video!!!
As an Archaeologist with Human Systems Research in the mid 90s I did a lot of work regarding events such as these and Cold War history on WSMR. Lee had the lawmen pinned down behind the water tank having got a package from Sears, all the way from Germany, a new 8mm Mauser. We searched an old corral rumored to have had the Fountain's bodies thrown in with a couple hundred wild horses run through to obliterate them. We found nothing. I visited several of Garret's properties, a little brick Victorian cottage out on the desert, another place in the San Andres with a log structure near intermittent water. A grandson of Daddy Cox when interviewed by a fellow Anthropologist regarding his memories of the controversies Said, "My grandaddy didn't kill anyone that didn't need a killin'!" I wish I had pictures of all the cool things I saw on WSMR, but taking photos for personal use was regarded as espionage. The cameras we did use (film only) for archaeology were bar-coded by WSMR MPs.
Great series Josh. I would like hear your take on Dottie Dino I know another channel cover her but I would hear your take and what kind of dirt you can dig up on the Angel of San Antonio
When I was 14 in 77 and was doing reactments at Fort Tejon at the foot of the grapevine I 5 in California. It was very popular back then. I'm not sure about today. It was a neat experience and I learned a lot about the Civil War
"Im John. W Poe. We're men of the govenor's" Poe was played by a young Viggo Mortensen (Aragorn - Lord of The Rings) in the classic 90s western 'young guns 2'. Love the channel!
I grew up in New Mexico, living in both Chaves county (Roswell) and Roosevelt county (Elida and Portales) near Ft Sumner. My little brother lives just outside of Capitan NM about 10 miles from Lincoln NM where his wife worked at the Dolan House. It still amazes me at the amount of drama and intrigue that form the history of this state. If a person was to produce a movie that covered half of what happened in NM between 1870 and 1930 it would be called far fetched and unbelievable. Unfortunately, true to it's origins there still remains a lot of drama and intrigue within the state.
@@WildWestExtravaganza I think I have made at least 5 comments in your videos that you have taken the time to reply to. That is an awesome fact that Will keep me watching your videos.
I'm a native NYer and lived in ABQ for a year (7200 block of central SE) and can confirm that to this day New Mexico has a lot of far fetched plotlines playing out
@@WildWestExtravaganza hell yes well deserved. It's folks like you that are going to bring an appreciation for the old west to the younger generation that never experienced it.
Just a suggestion from a new viewer. Is there anyway we can get more on the Missouri bushwackers? Or the James younger gang or just Missouri in general right after the civil war.
@@WildWestExtravaganza if for nothing else it would be worth doing an episode to read his final letter where he said being stood up against the wall and shot to rags was his preferred method of euthanasia
So what do you think? Who did for Fountain and his boy? Was it really Oliver Lee and his pals or Black Jack Ketchum or someone else? Curious to hear your thoughts!!!!
JOSH it's Gill-a-land. My 4th-5th great grandad was a high powered Abolitionist.Rev William Gilliland, died 1746 or so. Ill double check the dates if anyone is curious.
@WildWestExtravaganza Tascosa is located on the Canadian at a river crossing. The next crossing is at the Dam on Lake Merideth the next is Mobite. The big ranchers couldn't control the merchants at Tascosa because they didn't need the ranchers. The shooting was instigated by the ranchers to gain control. Ranchers gave cowboys town lots in Channing so they could vote to move the county seat. It was a cluster fuk and still is!
If I heard you correctly the name of the town Mexia is pronounced (Meh Hay' Ya). If I misheard you, my apologies. Cheap speakers and bad hearing on the computer.
Well, I not only get a Wednesday off, (Rare for an OilField Junkie) but, its like 8:30AM and I am on 1 of MANY beers for the day, cause I aint going outside in 107 degree Texas temps, and well, there are people outside, and heat and people dont mix. So I see the The Wild West Extravaganza notification pop up, and all is right in the universe..
@@haroldvoss5886 A hundert en 7 ain't nuthin', in 1980 lze in witchatittie falls and it hit a hundert and 17. I'm for real, that was truly a scorcher of a summer!
I love your program, very informative and just witty enough to draw a few laughs but never sacrificing educational value. As a limey would say "good show, ole boy"! Just kidding I
The lives of 19'th century women seemed to consist of canning, child-bearing, and watching the family finances disintegrate due to their husband's gambling habits.
Sadly a lot of manual labor too. My grandma (not 19th century but poor farm people) cooked 3 meals a day over a stove, and when she wasn't cooking she'd be out in the field picking cotton
@@WildWestExtravaganza mine too, my friend. Hopefully, your grandma's, like mine, also at least had the occasional evening gnat smoke or commodities distribution to break up the monotony.
Ten gallon hats are not a thing, Tan galàn, means so handsome, which is what they used to refer to the men wearing the large western hats. So handsome, not 10 gallon 😅
have to be honest, i could not get past the begineing of this video, they voice and tone of the nareater . so i give up on try`ing to listen till the end.
It's the use of the eff word that bugs me. It's not cool. It's overdone. Makes anyone sound like a dumb hick. Who wants history from a dumb hick with a limited vocabulary?
@WildWestExtravaganza I've certainly listened to a few more than once. You're killing it, man, keep up the good work! I hope to see this channel grow and grow.
Your improvisation of the conversation and between Lee and Garrett was pure gold!
I like to think that's the way it happened
@@WildWestExtravaganza your probably right, Garrett always struck me as the longing lover type.
@@WildWestExtravaganza
It would be of great value to explain the points of Democrat and Republican Parties having overwhelming ly swapped agendas post Civil War, (over time and more easily observable in the era following the war and around the Turn of the Century).
Clearly President Lincoln reflected the traits of a Moderate Liberal, although the Southerners would have seen him as a far Left Liberal at the time of Emancipation.
The Democrats of the era being the supporters of segregation and prejudice laws towards the Freed Men.
The African American Man could Legally Vote prior to Suffrage success. Although the Southern States superseded their Right and thus it was the 1960's when they were finally allowed to vote in the South.
The South remained Democrat with the shift to Republican beginning in the post Kennedy era and went consistently Red in the Reagan era.
Funny that the Republicans ignore the fact and have an Annual "Lincoln Day Dinner". (I use to tease my late Brother-n-Law" about this, he was a big Republican and Chairman of the County Commission in Memphis for years.
He was what I call a GOP Republican, a Moderate and * a Moderate Democrat, routinely we saw eye to eye on subjects, with the exception of Corporations and their Political Socio-Economic influence, moving the USA from Capitalism to Corporatism, (he didn't agree that was happening) it did with the efforts of Bush Sr and Jr, hiding in the shadow of Reagan, who set the scenario for the progression, but I don't think he realizes what he was allowing for.).
(It has and I am fully opposed to the system.)
However, the GOP Republicans were generally highly ethical, Eisenhower Republicans (like the late McCain, AZ) and would not/do not hold much in common with the DT Republicans. Large gap.
At any rate, Party changes over time, is an expected occurrence as Humanity evolved and progresses, although it appears like a regression at times, (but that's largely a fear based resistance to change).
"Discernment rather than Judgemental"
The more folks come to receive Knowledge, the greater the Clarity, and this brings a Harmony that allows for attention to focus on the fuller picture, rather than being distracted on the "Commentaries Produced to keep the Public divided.)
"Peace is found where Higher Minds Exist and Cooperation is a Desired Expectation."
I appreciate your efforts to be fair in your descriptions, and holding a largely Moderate perspective.
Beth Bartlett
Sociologist/Behavioralist
and Historian
Hey Josh mate, I listen on apple podcast but subscribed here for the algorithm. I found your channel a few months ago and have binged almost every episode, 12 to go! You suggested watching Deadwood in an earlier episode and my wife and I absolutely demolished all three seasons in 3 weeks, which I then had to back and revisit your Bill Hickok series. Anyway, absolutely loving everything you put out mate and just wanted to share my appreciation. Keep it up. Much love, from way down south in Australia.
Thanks man! Glad you liked Deadwood!
Love your channel. You do a great job and hope you keep it up.
I would like to hear you tell the story of the ( wild horse lake massacre) I don't know if you have heard of it. I think you would like it if you haven't heard of it .
I live way out in the country in the Oklahoma panhandle. About 3 miles from were this took place.
This story has not widely known and it will blow you away.
The Oklahoma panhandle is no man's land. Back in the day it had no law.
There isn't much of a lake there because he'll this is the Oklahoma panhandle but it was a watering place for the buffalo and there is a hole nother story with Bill Tillman when he was a marshal in Dodge City and came dawn for a buffalo hunt and almost got killed by lndians.
Anyhow it has some good stories behind it. Might give you some good subjects to work with.
Feel free to contact me if you need any information I can help you with.
Looking forward to listening to any stories you put out. Keep it up you ROCK
You know for some reason in Deadwood, Johnny’s sled never got rusty and Mr. Wu’s hogs sure were fat.
I always look forward to the
'easter egg ' in the outro. Well done Josh, thanks.
Thanks
Makes me laugh every time! But Jawsh ...
Josh, another no nonsense story about Pat Garrett. You are becoming a pretty good investigating author of the Wild West . Keep up the good work! Between you and me Lee murdered Fountain and his boy.
I'm thinking Lee is the culprit, too
Great job again. It sure is funny how life builds these connections like the ones in this snippet demonstrate. Thanks for keeping these stories alive and making it interesting for, hopefully, future generations. Although this was shorter than the long format the quality even in editing seems to be improving. Kudos. Keep up the good work and I look forward to the next installment.
Glad you enjoyed it
What is wrong with youtube!?? Here it is, 17 hours after it was posted and only just now was I notified!
I've been waiting ever not so patiently, and RUclips falls down on the job!!! Smdh better late than ever so here we go!!! I know it's going to be a great video!!!
Glad you're here now!
Been waiting all morning for this
Glad you're listening, Danny
Hey Josh! Enjoyed this very much. Keep up the good work!
Thanks man
As an Archaeologist with Human Systems Research in the mid 90s I did a lot of work regarding events such as these and Cold War history on WSMR.
Lee had the lawmen pinned down behind the water tank having got a package from Sears, all the way from Germany, a new 8mm Mauser.
We searched an old corral rumored to have had the Fountain's bodies thrown in with a couple hundred wild horses run through to obliterate them. We found nothing.
I visited several of Garret's properties, a little brick Victorian cottage out on the desert, another place in the San Andres with a log structure near intermittent water.
A grandson of Daddy Cox when interviewed by a fellow Anthropologist regarding his memories of the controversies Said, "My grandaddy didn't kill anyone that didn't need a killin'!"
I wish I had pictures of all the cool things I saw on WSMR, but taking photos for personal use was regarded as espionage. The cameras we did use (film only) for archaeology
were bar-coded by WSMR MPs.
Thanx Josh, another great story, well done
Thank you, Donald
Great series Josh. I would like hear your take on Dottie Dino I know another channel cover her but I would hear your take and what kind of dirt you can dig up on the Angel of San Antonio
Yeah, hopefully help in the future
Just freaking excellent. Every single time.
Thanks
Awesome story!!! Have you done one on Johnny Ringo yet?
Yeah a long time ago but I need to redo it
Entertaining and informative as ever.
Gracias
When I was 14 in 77 and was doing reactments at Fort Tejon at the foot of the grapevine I 5 in California. It was very popular back then. I'm not sure about today. It was a neat experience and I learned a lot about the Civil War
I bet that was pretty fun
"Im John. W Poe. We're men of the govenor's"
Poe was played by a young Viggo Mortensen (Aragorn - Lord of The Rings) in the classic 90s western 'young guns 2'.
Love the channel!
New episode! Hell ya!!!
Beaver Trappin Josh with another podcast deposit for Boot Hill. Another great one
Gracias
I grew up in New Mexico, living in both Chaves county (Roswell) and Roosevelt county (Elida and Portales) near Ft Sumner. My little brother lives just outside of Capitan NM about 10 miles from Lincoln NM where his wife worked at the Dolan House. It still amazes me at the amount of drama and intrigue that form the history of this state. If a person was to produce a movie that covered half of what happened in NM between 1870 and 1930 it would be called far fetched and unbelievable. Unfortunately, true to it's origins there still remains a lot of drama and intrigue within the state.
Tyler Sheridan should do an entire series on it.
@@WildWestExtravaganza I think I have made at least 5 comments in your videos that you have taken the time to reply to. That is an awesome fact that Will keep me watching your videos.
@@oldhillbillybuckkowalskithey're good comments!
I'm a native NYer and lived in ABQ for a year (7200 block of central SE) and can confirm that to this day New Mexico has a lot of far fetched plotlines playing out
Pecos Irrigation & Investment Co. sounds like a great tshirt
Amazing work brother thank you.
Much appreciated
@@WildWestExtravaganza hell yes well deserved. It's folks like you that are going to bring an appreciation for the old west to the younger generation that never experienced it.
I sure hope so
Here we gooooooo....thanks Josh
Just a suggestion from a new viewer. Is there anyway we can get more on the Missouri bushwackers? Or the James younger gang or just Missouri in general right after the civil war.
Absolutely. Hopefully in a few months I'm going to do an entire series on Jesse James and I want to do a stand alone episode on Quantrill, too
@@WildWestExtravaganza awesome appreciate you!
I appreciate you too
Is this video part 4 to the pat Garrett part 1 2 and 3 in the description?
Yes
You should do an episode on the disappearance of Abrose Bierce. He is the author who wrote Incident on Owl Creek Bridge.
Great suggestion
@@WildWestExtravaganza if for nothing else it would be worth doing an episode to read his final letter where he said being stood up against the wall and shot to rags was his preferred method of euthanasia
So what do you think? Who did for Fountain and his boy? Was it really Oliver Lee and his pals or Black Jack Ketchum or someone else? Curious to hear your thoughts!!!!
My money is on Oliver Lee.
Always satisfying
Glad you think so
Just watched a video with a guy named Brandon Dickson claiming his research shows Billy was only 19 when he died. Interesting stuff.
Interesting. Yeah, according to a lot of people who knew Billy, there's a good chance he was not yet 21
What do you mean missing? Didn't he release a concept album about the frontier just last year?
I had a teacher in high school named "Gilliland" and I can confirm it was pronounced "Gilland".
Goood morning!😉
Buenos dias
JOSH it's Gill-a-land. My 4th-5th great grandad was a high powered Abolitionist.Rev William Gilliland, died 1746 or so. Ill double check the dates if anyone is curious.
Hey in fact, the good Rev's daughter Malinda/Milly was the one who married into the crazy.
And here I am.
Dude love your pod cast but might not should have watched “Broke Back Mountain”. Uh, more than once anyways. Just kidden!
Josh ol buddy be nice LS is still in business and big as ever!
They got a long history
@WildWestExtravaganza Tascosa is located on the Canadian at a river crossing. The next crossing is at the Dam on Lake Merideth the next is Mobite. The big ranchers couldn't control the merchants at Tascosa because they didn't need the ranchers. The shooting was instigated by the ranchers to gain control. Ranchers gave cowboys town lots in Channing so they could vote to move the county seat. It was a cluster fuk and still is!
Crazy!
That will Smith shit was funny as fuck
If I heard you correctly the name of the town Mexia is pronounced (Meh Hay' Ya). If I misheard you, my apologies. Cheap speakers and bad hearing on the computer.
Dang he looks like Dale Earnhardt Sr.
I was hoping you weren't going to tell us he did the other Will Smith thing.
Well, I not only get a Wednesday off, (Rare for an OilField Junkie) but, its like 8:30AM and I am on 1 of MANY beers for the day, cause I aint going outside in 107 degree Texas temps, and well, there are people outside, and heat and people dont mix.
So I see the The Wild West Extravaganza notification pop up, and all is right in the universe..
Why not make it a marathon
@@WildWestExtravaganza
That is deff a great Idea !!!
@@haroldvoss5886 A hundert en 7 ain't nuthin', in 1980 lze in witchatittie falls and it hit a hundert and 17.
I'm for real, that was truly a scorcher of a summer!
A family friend was Pat Garret’s great granddaughter.
Interesting, the missing fellow got his kid caught up in the middle.
I think the general idea was that surely nobody would stoop so low as to harm a child but unfortunately they did.
I love your program, very informative and just witty enough to draw a few laughs but never sacrificing educational value. As a limey would say "good show, ole boy"! Just kidding I
Thanks!
This guy showed up and drove the 3. We called him the intimidator. Sounds like he's one of those he'll show again in 30 years or so
Can we bring back the politicians shedding each other's blood thing?
Fingers crossed
The lives of 19'th century women seemed to consist of canning, child-bearing, and watching the family finances disintegrate due to their husband's gambling habits.
Sadly a lot of manual labor too. My grandma (not 19th century but poor farm people) cooked 3 meals a day over a stove, and when she wasn't cooking she'd be out in the field picking cotton
@@WildWestExtravaganza mine too, my friend. Hopefully, your grandma's, like mine, also at least had the occasional evening gnat smoke or commodities distribution to break up the monotony.
@@WildWestExtravaganzaTough times. Tough dangerous times. Made people hard. Lotta softies around today. Sadly.
@@jasonmatthews7829That sounds funny to me. May I ask what an evening gnat smoke and commodity distribution are? I’m sensing sarcasm.
I'll go rhythm ❤
People need to look at Garrett also
Thought this was about that Jennings guy disappearing, not pat Garret
I thought it was too
What evidence was there to suggest two bodies were wrapped up before being halled away?
I have watched less than five minutes of the video and already three ads, it's ridiculous
What if I were to tell you there was a way to listen with zero ads?
Utube premium 13.99 month..😊ez pz
@WildWestExtravaganza il start paying when you have me on as a guest host lol
So the aliens is that related to the 1890 something crash up in North Texas
Next episode
@@WildWestExtravaganza fine I won't ask for spoilers in case there's crybabies around lol. Another great episode
Haha
Maybe one of Billy the Kid’s “pals” sent ole Albert to sleep with the fishes and ole Luci Brasi.
Maybe
Ten gallon hats are not a thing, Tan galàn, means so handsome, which is what they used to refer to the men wearing the large western hats. So handsome, not 10 gallon 😅
10 gallon hats are a thing
Bill Schultz is that you!?
Just consider flipping througb 4 or 5 pics. Youd get another 30k subs immediately i bet
No time, unfortunately
Thomas Edward Ketchum one day it's coming.
I promise
Lots of ad interruptions in this one. Too many honestly! Had a hard time staying with this one.
What type of interruptions?
have to be honest, i could not get past the begineing of this video, they voice and tone of the nareater . so i give up on try`ing to listen till the end.
Imagine how I feel when I'm editing.
I've had enough of Pat Garret and Billy the Kid.
Wonder if maybe you can find something else to listen to?
Seams like you shoot straight up, just the way I like it.
Im trying
Pat should have had a pinky ring.
Why? Gangsta?
@@WildWestExtravaganza heck yeah, I’m even thinking about getting one.
Do it
@@WildWestExtravaganza I think I am my brother. These stories you share give me all kinds of wonderful ideas.
Native Americans “disappeared” all the time also.
Encumbered by idjits we pressed on…
Haha
Garrett's was a coward Garrett's did nothing when he was Shariff but lie in his book
IIIIIITSS, TIIIIIIMMMMEEEEEE
Let's go
We going
LEGGO
Yeehah!
😅😅😅
His voice made me turn off and not watch the video 0:08
It's the use of the eff word that bugs me. It's not cool. It's overdone. Makes anyone sound like a dumb hick. Who wants history from a dumb hick with a limited vocabulary?
It will forever be bloody Beaver to me
Hey if a word has an R in it, it can get rolled. I care not what other men do. 🤠. I dig it.
I finally ran out of Wild West Extravaganza videos 🥲
Only one thing to do...start again from the very beginning
@WildWestExtravaganza I've certainly listened to a few more than once. You're killing it, man, keep up the good work! I hope to see this channel grow and grow.
Thanks man