"He" is not being selfish. "She" is not being selfish. "He" and "she" are characters in a work of fiction. When you have some evidence to prove there is something other than the natural world, let me know "Shelbi".
@@prickboner3499 are you implying to yourself?, they're people, creation of God, it is not fiction. The Devil is not a fiction, God is not a fiction, so I think you should just think once again before saying such thing, time is short "Prick."
Polarization is hardly ever the solution. Discussing and fighting is part of who we are, and a natural process to resolve conflicts. Ultimatums serve no purpose other than fearfully run away from the problem
@@mrshikad I made that comment five years ago. I actually totally forgot that I even made the comment 😅. If this was real life then my approach would be different.
Tony Jesus freak ekloff say that to the child that just died in Africa of starvation. Tell that to an abuse victim taking her/his last breath. Your god is a created figure putting and god stupid advice that’ll not benefit anyone and might be harmful is stupid and arrogant.
Missing Apostate God is real. Even if he’s not he still is, he inspires good morality and loves everyone. Without God in society, it would be a mess of crimes and even more unloved people because of lacked morality.
+5179anonymous It was a showing of the movie to raise money for Chaplains in our local schools....we didn't go for the quality haha. Raising important money was the big thing. :) Also, to The Devil, the majority of the people in the cinema (and the ones cheering) were over 40. They've known Jesus a lot longer than I. I wouldn't call them immature at all. :D :D p.s We were all clapping because it seems silly to us that a girl who follows Jesus wouldn't stand with her boyfriend doing something so awesome like he did. She seemed selfish about it...wanted it to be about her relationship with him, instead of their relationship pleasing Jesus. Plus.....obviously, the movie is fiction.....it wasn't real life. :D
Yeah that’s right if you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything like fairytales about magic sky daddies that you can’t see or hear without drugs or schizophrenia
@@someoneonyoutube8622 And that’s why God removes people like you from the conversation. So don’t be surprised if your account gets suspended just for that one comment
@@jonharrison9222bro if you’re not a Christian why even be here? It’s so stupid and you’re wasting your time. You wanna live a meaningless existence wher e you live 40 years die and that’s it do you. No one is stopping you… free will and all that except when you pathetic atheists come here and spew your propaganda back at us 🤡🤭
They were unequally yoked. She said she believed but she wasn't willing to risk anything to bring the word to others. She didn't believe and support Josh so he left her because they are unequally yoked
Nothsa Rekcap Is it delusional to stand up for the word, Jesus stood up for us and was publicly humiliated for us and beaten to top it off then nailed to the cross. This guy did what God calls us to do when the time comes and hell I’d do the same if it came to it. If that girl was all for God and put him first she would support him all the way but she let fear control her and for the guy letting her go means he put God first as it should be. Personally she just sounded like one of those spoiled brats who only live to control people, you can see it in her face when he doesn’t react the way she wanted him to react when she broke it off with him.
I think you may be forgetting this film is ineptly written propaganda. It’s stiff with strawmen and logical fallacies, crummy acting, and drives every point home with the subtlety of a drunken uncle at a wedding.
You mean if she were truly brainwashed, she wouldn't think for herself and support the dogma blindly? With any luck, she left Christianity behind entirely and became a free-thinker.
@@jessicabaker7123 "God is real" How do you know that? Is there any evidence you can show that positively proves the existence of any anthropomorphic deity, much less the God of the Bible? You would need some pretty extraordinary evidence, since everything about your God is impossible based on everything we know about reality. It is not possible for a conscious mind to exist outside of a brain and body to house it, and miracles defy the laws of physics by definition. So it’s not possible for your God to exist, nor could he use magical miracles to manipulate anything even if he did exist. “It’s not brainwashing, it’s faith” Faith is often a belief in things that are impossible according to everything we know about anything at all. Religious beliefs are sacred, meaning that they are never to be questioned or critically examined but must be believed no matter what. Skeptical inquiry is strictly forbidden, and apologetics exists only to obligately rationalize away any criticisms so that they may be dismissed without consideration. In other words, faith assumes its own conclusions, believes impossible nonsense without reason, and defends those beliefs against all reason to the contrary. It can’t help but be wrong to some degree to start with, and any errors will never even be acknowledged, much less sought out or corrected, so that situation can never improve. However wrong it already is is however wrong it will forever be. Faith offers no way to discover the real truth about anything, but it’s a great way to stay wrong forever and never admit it-even to yourself.
@@jessicabaker7123 So in summary, religious faith IS belief without evidence or reason, and does not change because of evidence or reason. It's literally a matter or make-believe.
Very goog yound man! There are times when the person you love don't understand your purpose and for you to fulfill that purpose they have to go. It might hurt but their chapter is over they brought you as far as they could. Sometimes good bye is not easy but need to be done!!!
Going thru this now. Letting go....I know his not supposed to go with me because I've only went back to where I once was by being with him. Now I'm going thru the valleys to get to the mountain top...The same valleys I once traveled...But this time, It's not about my wants but God's purpose and vision want to be in his will...
He literally put God in the middle of their relationship... That's what most people strive to do to keep their relationship on check, and yet this movie, a guy defending his faith is what drove his into shambles.. I'm still in awe of this movie.
@@rebeccamichael626 right and Adam put eve before god one and that allowed him to forget god and sin then he and all the humans were punished as a result of his sin
You go Josh!!! Kara should have been supporting him not being melodramatic and selfish and controling and mean. Its not all about her or Mr Raddison its about God but she was making it all about her. Being a christian isnt always easy-you cant just run away from the hardships like Kara was telling Josh too but to stand up to them knowing that we have a far greater power on our side no matter what comes our way.
Amen sister that is right she is being so selfish and making everything about her and not what God but what she wants him to do for her Christian ladies don't need to act like that and live there life's dissing god like that
If she were all for God she would support him all the way and stand with him, in fact The Christian life is hard and it gets harder as we go along the path God set us on but we can’t just run away or take shortcuts like she was telling Josh to do and you can’t put away God like he’s some kind of clothing or object just because it doesn’t fit someone else’s agenda. I could be wrong but it seems to me that she was just one of those spoiled controlling brats who say one thing yet do another and she just revealed her true colors to Josh pretty proving that she wasn’t the one for him and I pray for whatever poor fellow that gets involved with her in the future that is of course she grows up. As it says in 1 Corinthians 13:11, “When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."
@Bench The Youth Baptist Apologist "what is the meaning of life? Where did life come from?" The meaning of life is whatever you make of it since we evidently do not exist for any specific purpose directed by any outward force. The purpose of my life which I've ascribed to myself is to live life to the fullest and to try and help others along the way. As to where life came from, you'd be much better off reading abiogenesis hypothesis rather than the Bible which tells you that all life on earth was created by a series of incantations. That's it, there really is nothing more to creationism than that: *pure freakin' magic* by definition.
@Bench The Youth Baptist Apologist "Why do you use God's word if you don't belive in God," I've never referenced the bible once in my response, and the Bible isn't the word of god in any case. It's only a collection of bronze-age mythology and the ravings of ignorant superstitious primitives who evidently had NO idea what they were talking about.
That's what happens when people are not of the same culture or are into religion. If a person loves you, they must respect your decisions and beliefs. In God We Trust!! My favorite part is when he goes to church and the pastor gives him advice to follow his heart.
Ya. I'm not into the hole God thing. But the dude is right. This is important to him. It's a few weeks being really focused on something that really matters to him. She should support him on that. And Radison should be fired for crossing over the seperation of church and state. This is a state funded school I assume. As such him demanding people renounce their faith in order to increase their chances of passing his class is simply wrong. He should be fired no questions asked.
You mean they bump into people who have different faiths or no faiths at all. Sort of like they do…every day. And they must tolerate them, not respect them. Big difference.
Reminds me of my ex breaking up with me 3 years ago due to not giving her much attention because of my own success I wanted in life. I was devastated but understood the outcome. Then I believed in God after that moment. 😭💔
3 years ago next month, a girl who turned out to be nothing like she portrayed to be made me choose between her or my family. Looking back now I know I made the right choice cause not even a week after she gave me back the ring she went to the very guy she wanted me to protect her from, since he was a freak and was creeping on her.
Jace Chretin Not to judge or anything but it seems she didn’t love you at all just the attention and that my friend is not something you want in a woman. I mean yeah a little attention is fine here and there but if she already got into a relationship with another guy in less than a week that goes to show you she ain’t worth it.
TickedOff Priest she doesn’t even realize it because she’s so wrapped up in her sinful pride. Sin can blind you to the point you don’t even realize how bad of shape you’re in spiritually
Many years later, when she stands before God, she will have to explain to God why she made him choose. And I don't think that will end too well for her!
We'll all stand for Jesus one day. Unless... she repents and redeems herself and confesses herself a sinner. There is always a chance she and others could do that
If he denied God Infront all those students Jesus would have denied him in front of God. If she can't stand with him then she wasn't meant for him. If you feel led to bring people to God through debate with a professor than do so. God placed him in that class for a reason. And he finished what he needed to accomplish
@@ΗλίαςΨύλλας-λ9β Ok... I just said that the way atheists motives are portrayed are based on instinctual feelings (anger, sadness) and not logic and ceticism. The last one which is not only the most common but also my case
If I were in the young man shoe's and had a boyfriend but make me choose between he or God. I will broke up with him too. I hope I will meet a young man with God like this main lead believing God exist! ✨
She tested him early on in the conversation and he passed. He tested her towards the end and she failed. Love is tested at every avenue, egress and ingress. Love covers all bases and what she didn't understand is that God comes first.
Eric Ramirez Gaming 101 It depends, every couple agrees and disagrees on some things however when it comes to God they have to be on the same page cuz whether that girl likes it or not God comes first no it’s ands, or buts if she was all for God she would support that guy all the way instead of being petty. Practice what you preach it’s as simple as that
You need some Paula Abdul in your life sister. You're going two steps forward and two steps back. it ain't fiction just a matter of fact. Because opposites ATTRACT 💖💃🕺
It's amazing a lot of people on this thread are calling her selfish. . . But she has been blinded by Satan. . . whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. - 2Co 4:4 But he was unequally yoked, so this was bound to happen. . . Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? - 2Co 6:14
You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. - 1John 4:4-5
1 John 4:4 But you belong to God, my dear children. You have already won a victory over those people, because the Spirit who lives in you is greater than the spirit who lives in the world.
If God gives me a Daughter I would pray there is a man of God like this young man for her and I will approve and pray because this a man faithful to his love for the Lord and strong in faith This how we must stand up in times like these and always put God first
I know huh... I want a man like that the problem with me is I have a fear of getting in relationships.plus I don't think I'll be a great girlfriend either.Also like being single though too!
@@happycatlemon4593 I also know being single has its perks so enjoy being single. Only get into a relationship when YOU'RE ready, not when someone else tells you that you should be ready and trust God.
Kimberly Ortega This may be a little odd, but I'm a man and find it extremely difficult it find anyone in my age group who loves the Lord and the Bible as if it were actually God's good word. Especially anyone of the opposite gender!!
Alec Eisenbeis I'm a published novelist, and I know fiction when I see it. God is not fiction. You'll have better luck proving he's dead than non-existent.
She is right about one thing the decision that people make can have dire consequences this why we should do what is right according to God and not what others say to do so he is doing what God wants him to do which will have greated rewards for him and for those that listen to what he saying
Good for him for holding fast despite this not being what he wants in life. God is the most important thing in life. The very first of the ten commandments that God should be #1 in your life.
God chose Abraham to be his nation follower. Abraham for years like past 50 never had a son even when he tried and tried, his nephew was the only person he has closest to a son. soon his nephew said he wanted to leave God and Abraham...so he did. even after getting captured and God and Abraham saving his nephew...still refusing to go...and so he still let him, but anyways...Abraham had to wait one more year because his wife will have a son....finally getting one. the first descendant...to be chosen by God is a blessing....and a test. God asked for a sacrifice.....the sacrifice was his son....before Abraham could stab him, he stopped him just in time. he has been put through so many and he did all of it...and he was willing to loose it...why because he loves him! so yes saying no to her that is more like a sacrifice is saying that he loves God and he will loose everything to still have him.
YesWeCantaloupe I think it's because they had so many characters and subplots in the story, it was hard for them to give everything and all the characters the level of backstory they deserved. I felt that way about _Courageous_ to a degree. The first time you watched it, you found yourself thinking that the movie was near ending, when in fact it had a few more unforeseen ends to tie up. :)
Best conclusion I’ve ever heard, in other words she uses God as a piece of clothing or an accessory, well her loss of having a man like Josh who stood strong for God just as he did for us.
He is better off without her because she makes everything about her and not him because God wanted him to do something that other people will not understand and sometimes it is hard to trust the Lord but if we are willing to leave the results to him and give our lives to him and we will reap a bountiful harvest and we will leave blessed more than we could ever imagine I hope I do not meet someone as selfish as her she makes her relationship with him more important then her relationship with God and that is not the way a Christian should be we need to put God first in everything we do and not a boyfriend or girlfriend or even our relationships with our family but we need to put God first and also my family even if it cost us those relationships with the people we love we must never forget who loved us first and best
Matthew 19:29 "And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life." This includes girlfriends.
Ryan Broker I mean, she is selfish, he does whatever he wants. But putting god first is just a moral rule, I’m am atheist and that does not compromise my values
I have a parable, since you Christians like parables. Pay attention to it: There was a boy, who grew up in his small town. Now, this town told him all kinds of things. It told him that he was the best artist. It told him that the town's festivals were the most exciting events to take part in, with the best food and drink there is. It told him that seniors retire to live quietly in the county retirement home. It told him that everyone lived in nice little houses happily next to each other. It told him that their religion was the only true religion, and that outsiders were trying to ruin the peace of that town and all the other towns like it. The boy grew up and took all of this for granted--everything the town told him, he took for truth. After graduation, he went to apply to art schools. Every single one turned him down. He wondered to himself why, and then he went online to look at other art for the first time, and to his wonder, saw all the amazing and creative ideas people were sharing, visions he'd never even dreamed possible with art. The art in his small town, and the art that the other small towns like it all shared amongst themselves, seemed so limited in comparison. He moved to the city to study privately, and heard of a grand festival being held and went to it. There was food from all over the world, flowers and trees from all over the world, dancers, colorful lights and fireworks, displays and performances the likes of which he'd never seen. The festivals in his small town, and those he traveled to the other towns to perform in, were all the same. He kept asking himself why this was. Why the art was the same and the festivals were the same. And there were older people at these festivals! They didn't live in retirement homes--they were out, dining and enjoying themselves, sharing stories with the younger generations, even giving amazing musical performances and doing amazing art well into their senior years, never becoming less passionate or feeling that time had slipped away from them. They were not all the same, struggling, under-stimulated, under-appreciated seniors he had seen in his small town and had heard about in the other towns. Why, though? WHY? The houses had a life to them--some had a long history and were kept the way they were for hundreds of years. Some were designed by the best architectural artists and designers in the world. Some towered above the streets, and some had wonderful murals of heroes and icons and majestic scenes painted all over them. Some weren't as lucky, though, and had weeds growing in them, broken windows, rusted appliances thrown out on the lawn, vandalized fences. His town seemed so perfect with its rows of houses, but then in this place, there were both wonders and miseries. Why? Why did his town have its carbon-copied houses, and why did this place have such amazing places but also miserable ones? He went to one of the ruined-looking houses, to a woman sitting outside. He asked, "I've seen so many wonderful things in this city, so much amazing art and such spectacular festivals with such incredible food and music and sights, people living long, invigorating lives well into their senior years, and places full of character and culture and architectural beauty. But I didn't see this part of the city until now. Why does such an otherwise vibrant place have all of these terrible, out-of-repair houses and crime?" The woman replied, "Because all of these things are the truth." He began to reflect on that. The city hadn't tried to hide the truth from him. It told him he wasn't yet good enough at art. It told him of all the celebrations and cultures of the world. It told him that passion for life and for work didn't stop at retirement. It told him that houses weren't the same and society wasn't the same--that there was extreme inequality in those things. And he thought about what else his little town had told him, and what little towns everywhere were telling others. What were the chances, given all of what he'd experienced, that the religion of these small towns was the truth and not also a delusion? That the outsiders were really trying to ruin the peace and not simply wanting to share with them things from the outside? He asked the woman, "Then why did the town I grew up in hide the truth from me?" She paused a moment, and then replied, "Maybe because the people in that town are afraid to end up like me."
Anyone, man or woman, who forces their significant other to choose between them or God, is someone who walks in darkness. " So you want me to choose between you and God? Very well then! DONT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE WAY OUT!!! "
Such incredible acting. I hope allah smiles upon these kind young actors. It’s rare you see an openly gay man in a Christian movie. How brave. I also heard a lot of the money this movie made went to help homeless transgender youth. Doin gods work!
My mom was so abusive to me i always thought it was me, she has Dementia, i was the one there even through the abuse, other siblings used her but pretended, I always had this huge birth mark in my back, one day about two yrs ago it disappeared, mom was sitting outside looking mad , i was sitting with her, i said mom that birth mark just disappeared, she kept staring out, she said it wasn’t a birthmark you were burned by an iron, you were two, she was ironing and she left the room the iron fell on me back, she kept staring as she was telling me this, she said when i cam e back you were quivering but you put the iron back, and just st stared at the evil she was telling me, i said you burned me, she said i knew you were different at two yrs old.. we were out in the country, me still in my pajamas, packed my stuff and left, she runs out with a picture of me my older brother ( not even a yr between us, and my dad) then i knew , biggest release in my life.. came home made some phone calls, they all kn w and covered, Narcissistic personality is real, she was a huge church goer, saving everyone… now she can s in a home and keeps asking for me. . i’m good, the biggest release in my life, thank you my lord and savior.
+Alexandar Ostojic Pretty much, fictional character worship by groups of people and the willingness to accept atrocity on the reason of "God said is good, thus it is". This is all assume we're talking about Christianity, if not, then never mind.
+KevvlFan Jesus is a fictional character? You cant be serious. Jesus Christ is the best documemted person in history. More people wrote about him then any other historical person.
Alexandar Ostojic Jesus might be a real person, but his ability and his suppose identity as God's son which is also God is as fictional as Harry Potter.
Because she thinks that Josh needs to prioritize her over everything else because his decisions are affecting their future. She says that god wants Adam to be with her so wanting to prioritize God is the same as prioritizing her but it's not the same thing. You can't put someone or something on the same level as god in your life. God needs to be the clear #1.
If she really loved him she would've let him stand up for God and admire the purpose God has given him. Nobody should ever be bossing you around in a relationship.
I don't think she was bossing him around. The way I see it, she raised her very valid concerns to him. He reciprocated by saying that everyone has been urging him to do the same thing. And so, she most likely assumes that that is what he is going to do. Once he made his decision, he didn't tell her about it. And so, she understandably git upset about the fact that he went behind her back. Now obviously both of their communication skills should be improved, but that doesn't mean that anyone is definitely in the wrong.
@@amethyst7468 I see your point too. However I guess my main concern of this scene was that even though he went behind her back, she still should've seen how important this was to him and the love he had for God. If she was truly christian and loved him, she would've let him stand up to the professor.
@@sirvincerd9346 Yes I see what you mean. And I feel that to truly understand her we have to put ourselves in her shoes. It was established in the movie that she went to this university though she had 2 much better options just to be with josh. She seems like a type A person having planned how the next ten years of her life are going to look like. Now to have that all crushed just because her boyfriend wants to get into a philosophical argument about God's existence, a highly nuanced subject even the greatest minds don't have a set answer to. And even if he wins said argument, chances are he is still going to fail this class because humans have pride and tend to double down especially when put on a pedestal. Now not only will her boyfriend most likely fail this class, but he is also giving it all of his attention, meaning that he is most probably going to fail all of his other classes. That with the fact that I don't belive a God that loves you would want you to jeopardise your entire future for them not to get an ego bruise, I don't think she should be labeled a "fake," "wrong" or "bad" Christian for not wanting him to partake in this debate.
@@amethyst7468 Yeah I can see from that persective too. She planned everything to work out good for both of them, but backfired due to the debate. However what this scene shows us is that if we truly love God, we ought to sacrifice and stand up for what we believe in. For instance if I was asked to sign a paper saying "God doesn't exist" just to get a job, I would deny it because I am a christ follower. I would just look elsewhere, even if I was low on funds. This dude loved God that much to throw his career away, but at the end of the movie he won anyways, inspired others, and the professor was saved before he died in a car wreck.
Rez I loved the movie but I’ll agree that they could’ve done more to add context to the relationship. There’s not a lot about Kara and their relationship so I didn’t really care as much about that relationship not working. Ayesha on the other hand there’s a lot of context about her family and her struggle with them not accepting her, so I was significantly more emotionally invested. Same goes for Martin and his father even though he had a lot less screen time in the movie.
Jesus and the Apostle Paul warned that If you deny Jesus publicly before men that Jesus will deny you in the presence of God the Father And His Holy Angels. If you are ashamed of him he will be ashamed of you. If you love your wife or family or money or anything more than Jesus, and you do not want to take up your cross and deny yourself then you are not worthy of Jesus. He that is unmarried cares for the things of God and he that is married cares for the things of the world how he may please his wife. If you are a friend of the world you are an enemy of God. Read your scriptures people. This man made the best decision of his life even though it's just a movie. Too many Christians are a bunch of Esau's walking around who sold their Birthright for a bowl of meat
Look All of Us have this little dragon /god that wants to be the center of the universe and when We dont humble that dragon Before the True God We get in trouble
A part of me feels like she should be more supportive but at the same time I feel like he should let it go cuz he can’t make everyone believe in God or argue his beliefs. Lots of believers don’t fight
Sean Armstrong I’m a Christian. I would absolutely not support this for several reasons. First, the first amendment guarantees freedom of religion meaning that your right to express your beliefs is generally your own and that includes the right not to be forced to act or speak in conflict with those beliefs. Also, in the Bible it’s said many times that people must *choose to accept god for salvation. If you simply just said you believe when you don’t it doesn’t mean anything and actually might be worse. God gave us free will for a reason even though he knew it could allow people to be led astray or reject him to their detriment because faith in him must be freely chosen by an individual for it to have any meaning.
@@MichaelRyanMoss With any luck, she left faith behind entirely and became a free-thinker. The world is so much easier to understand when you take the blinders of religion off.
I absolutely love this movie I thought Josh should have ended the movie with the young lady who was thrown out of her house cause she believed in god instead of being with the blonde girl
In real life, I'd give him an F and ask him to stay after class so I could explain why every single one of his arguments is fundamentally wrong and logically flawed. He seems like a good kid, he's just been fed the lies of Christian fundamentalism.
@@garyjones2561 No college professor in history has ever acted like the one in this movie. If he did, he'd be fired for religious discrimination and for not teaching the subject he's paid to teach. In any case, all of this student's "arguments" are very easy to counter and refute. There's no reason anyone should believe in God and there are plenty of good reasons NOT to believe.
Correction She wants him with her. And I willSay this preaching about Jesus is not stupid. And she needed to break up with Josh anyway because he is not the right person for her anyway. If wanted a girlfriend or if a girl wanted me to be her boyfriend I would ask her this question. Do you believe in Jesus Christ ✝️?
She's not willing to let anything outside come between them? Not even God, and yet she calls herself his follower? Clearly she's the sort of soul that believes love SHOULD be unconditional. He understands that that's bs at least on some level.
This is a horrible reality with so called Christian girls they won't support the decisions of God and try to box God into something that only they can understand and what they make of him all I can say actions speak louder than Instagram bios
"But seek first the kingdom of God snd His righteousness, and all of these things will be given to you as well" - Matthew 6:33
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PUT GOD FIRST AND EVERYTHING ELSE WILL FOLLOW!❤✝️
@@standforchrist1980 amen
@@someoneonyoutube8622 God is real. Go to Him. He’s waiting. He loves you ❤
“You need to choose who’s more important.”
God is the one who is first and no one else.
Really? What about the wife or kids or parents or siblings? Why god?
@@notnero5280 God is first, what I mean is you love God by loving your family, he has given you this family, a wife, kids, and that is a gift.
Being of one’s own creation does not obligate respect.
Amen
@@xzinnarisalan1891 well your putting someone whos not real before people in your life
I would've told her straight up, "I'm doing this, you're either for that, or you're against it." She's the one who was being selfish.
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"He" is not being selfish. "She" is not being selfish. "He" and "she" are characters in a work of fiction. When you have some evidence to prove there is something other than the natural world, let me know "Shelbi".
@@prickboner3499 are you implying to yourself?, they're people, creation of God, it is not fiction.
The Devil is not a fiction, God is not a fiction, so I think you should just think once again before saying such thing, time is short "Prick."
Polarization is hardly ever the solution. Discussing and fighting is part of who we are, and a natural process to resolve conflicts. Ultimatums serve no purpose other than fearfully run away from the problem
@@mrshikad I made that comment five years ago. I actually totally forgot that I even made the comment 😅. If this was real life then my approach would be different.
If I were this young mans Father I would support him in his stance for the Gospel of Our Lord Jesus Christ and I would be so proud of him!
I wished mine would.
Put God first in all things with your relationship. And all things shall fall into place.
Tony Jesus freak ekloff say that to the child that just died in Africa of starvation. Tell that to an abuse victim taking her/his last breath. Your god is a created figure putting and god stupid advice that’ll not benefit anyone and might be harmful is stupid and arrogant.
Missing Apostate God is real. Even if he’s not he still is, he inspires good morality and loves everyone. Without God in society, it would be a mess of crimes and even more unloved people because of lacked morality.
Missing Apostate What the heck do you think is the point of missionaries? You think God disapproves of them?
@@bananakingcomment6651 Sometimes the answer is No..
Dub Line You mean the missionaries that go over there rape and kidnap them. Fuck you!!
When I saw this at the movies, at 4:30 when she walks away, everyone in the room cheered!
Shows that there are still a lot of immature humans.
Grace Music i hope you became friends ith everyne in the theater ^w^
People actually paid money to watch this?
The Devil Depends on for whom (or what) they were cheering.
+5179anonymous It was a showing of the movie to raise money for Chaplains in our local schools....we didn't go for the quality haha. Raising important money was the big thing. :) Also, to The Devil, the majority of the people in the cinema (and the ones cheering) were over 40. They've known Jesus a lot longer than I. I wouldn't call them immature at all. :D :D p.s We were all clapping because it seems silly to us that a girl who follows Jesus wouldn't stand with her boyfriend doing something so awesome like he did. She seemed selfish about it...wanted it to be about her relationship with him, instead of their relationship pleasing Jesus.
Plus.....obviously, the movie is fiction.....it wasn't real life. :D
Stand for something or fall for anything.
If you don’t stand for something you might fall for anything TFK.
@@mindstorms247 ikrrrrrr
Just don't let that something be anything
Yeah that’s right if you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything like fairytales about magic sky daddies that you can’t see or hear without drugs or schizophrenia
@@someoneonyoutube8622 And that’s why God removes people like you from the conversation. So don’t be surprised if your account gets suspended just for that one comment
I feel like a Christian woman would want her husband/boyfriend to stand up for Jesus as he did.
I feel like you don’t recognise propaganda when you see it.
Yeah the writing was a little loose in this case.
@@jonharrison9222bro if you’re not a Christian why even be here? It’s so stupid and you’re wasting your time. You wanna live a meaningless existence wher e you live 40 years die and that’s it do you. No one is stopping you… free will and all that except when you pathetic atheists come here and spew your propaganda back at us 🤡🤭
They were unequally yoked. She said she believed but she wasn't willing to risk anything to bring the word to others. She didn't believe and support Josh so he left her because they are unequally yoked
Exactly!
As it says in Proverbs, Better to wander in the wilderness alone than with a contentious and angry woman.
Alexander Garcia Yes, indeed.
ThatClassic70sGirl she’s a Bitch
Amen.
It’s not her fault she didn’t want to be with someone who was delusional she just was tired of trying to help him
Nothsa Rekcap Is it delusional to stand up for the word, Jesus stood up for us and was publicly humiliated for us and beaten to top it off then nailed to the cross. This guy did what God calls us to do when the time comes and hell I’d do the same if it came to it. If that girl was all for God and put him first she would support him all the way but she let fear control her and for the guy letting her go means he put God first as it should be. Personally she just sounded like one of those spoiled brats who only live to control people, you can see it in her face when he doesn’t react the way she wanted him to react when she broke it off with him.
If she's Christian, then she is forgetting that he is doing it for God.
I think that goes as part of it. She is putting her own interests in front of that of him or God.
Apparently not as Christian as she 'pretends' to be.
I think you may be forgetting this film is ineptly written propaganda. It’s stiff with strawmen and logical fallacies, crummy acting, and drives every point home with the subtlety of a drunken uncle at a wedding.
If his girlfriend was truly a Christian, she would support him in his battle for what is right.
You mean if she were truly brainwashed, she wouldn't think for herself and support the dogma blindly?
With any luck, she left Christianity behind entirely and became a free-thinker.
Alec Eisenbeis Why do you think this? Gods real, so is Jesus. It’s not brainwashing, it’s faith.
@@jessicabaker7123 "God is real"
How do you know that? Is there any evidence you can show that positively proves the existence of any anthropomorphic deity, much less the God of the Bible?
You would need some pretty extraordinary evidence, since everything about your God is impossible based on everything we know about reality.
It is not possible for a conscious mind to exist outside of a brain and body to house it, and miracles defy the laws of physics by definition. So it’s not possible for your God to exist, nor could he use magical miracles to manipulate anything even if he did exist.
“It’s not brainwashing, it’s faith”
Faith is often a belief in things that are impossible according to everything we know about anything at all. Religious beliefs are sacred, meaning that they are never to be questioned or critically examined but must be believed no matter what. Skeptical inquiry is strictly forbidden, and apologetics exists only to obligately rationalize away any criticisms so that they may be dismissed without consideration.
In other words, faith assumes its own conclusions, believes impossible nonsense without reason, and defends those beliefs against all reason to the contrary. It can’t help but be wrong to some degree to start with, and any errors will never even be acknowledged, much less sought out or corrected, so that situation can never improve. However wrong it already is is however wrong it will forever be. Faith offers no way to discover the real truth about anything, but it’s a great way to stay wrong forever and never admit it-even to yourself.
How about a decent human being
@@jessicabaker7123 So in summary, religious faith IS belief without evidence or reason, and does not change because of evidence or reason. It's literally a matter or make-believe.
Very goog yound man! There are times when the person you love don't understand your purpose and for you to fulfill that purpose they have to go. It might hurt but their chapter is over they brought you as far as they could. Sometimes good bye is not easy but need to be done!!!
True
Going thru this now. Letting go....I know his not supposed to go with me because I've only went back to where I once was by being with him. Now I'm going thru the valleys to get to the mountain top...The same valleys I once traveled...But this time, It's not about my wants but God's purpose and vision want to be in his will...
"She extremely very selfish"!
Josh’s girlfriend doesn’t even believe, she wanted Josh to sign the paper saying God is dead. IMO Josh dodged a bullet.
Sometimes we gave to chose what we believe above the person we love.
That's terrible.
He literally put God in the middle of their relationship...
That's what most people strive to do to keep their relationship on check, and yet this movie, a guy defending his faith is what drove his into shambles..
I'm still in awe of this movie.
God goes before everything.
If you dont believe in something or follow your goals, then you become a mindless simp.. A simp is not attractive, not ever.
@@rebeccamichael626 right and Adam put eve before god one and that allowed him to forget god and sin then he and all the humans were punished as a result of his sin
@@kejiri3593 And not being a simp apparently will also lose you a gf so it's lose-lose.
No matter what your heart should always seek God first or try
In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths
Proverbs 3:6
You go Josh!!! Kara should have been supporting him not being melodramatic and selfish and controling and mean. Its not all about her or Mr Raddison its about God but she was making it all about her. Being a christian isnt always easy-you cant just run away from the hardships like Kara was telling Josh too but to stand up to them knowing that we have a far greater power on our side no matter what comes our way.
Amen sister that is right she is being so selfish and making everything about her and not what God but what she wants him to do for her Christian ladies don't need to act like that and live there life's dissing god like that
If she were all for God she would support him all the way and stand with him, in fact The Christian life is hard and it gets harder as we go along the path God set us on but we can’t just run away or take shortcuts like she was telling Josh to do and you can’t put away God like he’s some kind of clothing or object just because it doesn’t fit someone else’s agenda. I could be wrong but it seems to me that she was just one of those spoiled controlling brats who say one thing yet do another and she just revealed her true colors to Josh pretty proving that she wasn’t the one for him and I pray for whatever poor fellow that gets involved with her in the future that is of course she grows up. As it says in 1 Corinthians 13:11, “When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."
…?
God is more important
God is only an imaginary friend, literally everything else in life is more important than a delusion.
What? Why??!! Why more important than your girlfriend or the people around you??
@Bench The Youth Baptist Apologist "what is the meaning of life? Where did life come from?"
The meaning of life is whatever you make of it since we evidently do not exist for any specific purpose directed by any outward force. The purpose of my life which I've ascribed to myself is to live life to the fullest and to try and help others along the way.
As to where life came from, you'd be much better off reading abiogenesis hypothesis rather than the Bible which tells you that all life on earth was created by a series of incantations.
That's it, there really is nothing more to creationism than that: *pure freakin' magic* by definition.
@Bench The Youth Baptist Apologist "Why do you use God's word if you don't belive in God,"
I've never referenced the bible once in my response, and the Bible isn't the word of god in any case. It's only a collection of bronze-age mythology and the ravings of ignorant superstitious primitives who evidently had NO idea what they were talking about.
God bless y’all
That's what happens when people are not of the same culture or are into religion. If a person loves you, they must respect your decisions and beliefs. In God We Trust!! My favorite part is when he goes to church and the pastor gives him advice to follow his heart.
No, they're youth group collided. Didn't you listen?
Ya. I'm not into the hole God thing. But the dude is right. This is important to him. It's a few weeks being really focused on something that really matters to him. She should support him on that. And Radison should be fired for crossing over the seperation of church and state. This is a state funded school I assume. As such him demanding people renounce their faith in order to increase their chances of passing his class is simply wrong. He should be fired no questions asked.
Right - it's college. People have to study to survive. No reason they can't still be together.
You mean they bump into people who have different faiths or no faiths at all.
Sort of like they do…every day.
And they must tolerate them, not respect them.
Big difference.
@@thomasvontom
Which no professor actually does.
As any one else might have realised, and then maybe guessed that they’re not getting much of a film.
Reminds me of my ex breaking up with me 3 years ago due to not giving her much attention because of my own success I wanted in life. I was devastated but understood the outcome. Then I believed in God after that moment. 😭💔
3 years ago next month, a girl who turned out to be nothing like she portrayed to be made me choose between her or my family. Looking back now I know I made the right choice cause not even a week after she gave me back the ring she went to the very guy she wanted me to protect her from, since he was a freak and was creeping on her.
Jace Chretin Not to judge or anything but it seems she didn’t love you at all just the attention and that my friend is not something you want in a woman. I mean yeah a little attention is fine here and there but if she already got into a relationship with another guy in less than a week that goes to show you she ain’t worth it.
This film was pissing awful!
Everything happens for a reason and praise God !
He deserves better and she is tempting him to the ways of the dark one.
TickedOff Priest she doesn’t even realize it because she’s so wrapped up in her sinful pride. Sin can blind you to the point you don’t even realize how bad of shape you’re in spiritually
Do Christians blame EVERYTHING on demons and a Prince of Darkness?
Alec Eisenbeis I don’t think so, if I do something I know is wrong, that’s my own lack of Will and myself to blame for being weak
Catholic Conservative LUKE! Don’t go to the Dark Side!
Why can't the world become closer to Jesus?
im proud of this guy good for him.
Many years later, when she stands before God, she will have to explain to God why she made him choose. And I don't think that will end too well for her!
We'll all stand for Jesus one day. Unless... she repents and redeems herself and confesses herself a sinner. There is always a chance she and others could do that
I will always fallow the lord, no matter what
The harder the devil pushes you one way the more you should push through. Everyone told me to give up but he stood his ground and fight
H funny 😁 p
If he denied God Infront all those students Jesus would have denied him in front of God. If she can't stand with him then she wasn't meant for him. If you feel led to bring people to God through debate with a professor than do so. God placed him in that class for a reason. And he finished what he needed to accomplish
Barry Rockholt yeah, he finished doing a horrible and unrealistic movie lol
@@lucasfc4587 everything is real in god's hands
@@ΗλίαςΨύλλας-λ9β Ok... I just said that the way atheists motives are portrayed are based on instinctual feelings (anger, sadness) and not logic and ceticism. The last one which is not only the most common but also my case
If I were in the young man shoe's and had a boyfriend but make me choose between he or God. I will broke up with him too. I hope I will meet a young man with God like this main lead believing God exist! ✨
She’s for the streets. God always comes first.
As flawed as this movie is it has some really good moments like this
If your lover doesnt connect on the same level. Its a sign. 👌🏽
She tested him early on in the conversation and he passed. He tested her towards the end and she failed. Love is tested at every avenue, egress and ingress. Love covers all bases and what she didn't understand is that God comes first.
Gods Not Dead....... He is showing us this through the President
She's
not worth his time. A man/woman needs to have someone who is on the same page. How can any two walk together unless they agree??
They are two complete opposites! And I've learned that opposites don't work together. And that applies to anything, or anyone
Eric Ramirez Gaming 101 It depends, every couple agrees and disagrees on some things however when it comes to God they have to be on the same page cuz whether that girl likes it or not God comes first no it’s ands, or buts if she was all for God she would support that guy all the way instead of being petty. Practice what you preach it’s as simple as that
You need some Paula Abdul in your life sister. You're going two steps forward and two steps back. it ain't fiction just a matter of fact. Because opposites ATTRACT 💖💃🕺
It's amazing a lot of people on this thread are calling her selfish. . . But she has been blinded by Satan. . .
whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.
- 2Co 4:4
But he was unequally yoked, so this was bound to happen. . .
Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?
- 2Co 6:14
You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them.
- 1John 4:4-5
You normally find that religious propaganda works on sane people?
1 John 4:4
But you belong to God, my dear children.
You have already won a victory over
those people, because the Spirit who
lives in you is greater than the spirit who
lives in the world.
If God gives me a Daughter I would pray there is a man of God like this young man for her and I will approve and pray because this a man faithful to his love for the Lord and strong in faith
This how we must stand up in times like these and always put God first
Standing up for God and his Word is never Selfish 🙏🏻❤️ if anyone was selfish it was her
She's supposed to support her man in whatever he does
I know huh... I want a man like that the problem with me is I have a fear of getting in relationships.plus I don't think I'll be a great girlfriend either.Also like being single though too!
I'll probably be a terrible girlfriend anyway!
@@happycatlemon4593 you'll never know if you would be a good girlfriend unless you try.
@@happycatlemon4593 I also know being single has its perks so enjoy being single. Only get into a relationship when YOU'RE ready, not when someone else tells you that you should be ready and trust God.
Kimberly Ortega
This may be a little odd, but I'm a man and find it extremely difficult it find anyone in my age group who loves the Lord and the Bible as if it were actually God's good word. Especially anyone of the opposite gender!!
How did this guy not see the warning signs of what this girl was waaaaaaay before this?
Oh he got a hint the first time out, he just didn’t think it was that bad.
A man that is good to you and that stands firm for his faith. But yet she gives him no support.
Proud of you Josh!
V funny 😆
I would have been supportive of him. I could never tell anyone to turn their back on God.
God is LOVE. So simple....
Your God is the most unpleasant character in all of fiction.
Alec Eisenbeis I'm a published novelist, and I know fiction when I see it. God is not fiction. You'll have better luck proving he's dead than non-existent.
I’m sure you’ll meet Him soon.
I my self believe God is not dead
If i didn't want him to do the argument maybe I'd tell him I didn't want him to but i wouldn't straight up tell him not to do it
She is right about one thing the decision that people make can have dire consequences this why we should do what is right according to God and not what others say to do so he is doing what God wants him to do which will have greated rewards for him and for those that listen to what he saying
Good for him for holding fast despite this not being what he wants in life. God is the most important thing in life. The very first of the ten commandments that God should be #1 in your life.
You know this is a propaganda film don’t you?
I would have liked it if the movie showed more back story of these two. Saying no to her would feel like more of a sacrifice.
God chose Abraham to be his nation follower. Abraham for years like past 50 never had a son even when he tried and tried, his nephew was the only person he has closest to a son. soon his nephew said he wanted to leave God and Abraham...so he did. even after getting captured and God and Abraham saving his nephew...still refusing to go...and so he still let him, but anyways...Abraham had to wait one more year because his wife will have a son....finally getting one. the first descendant...to be chosen by God is a blessing....and a test. God asked for a sacrifice.....the sacrifice was his son....before Abraham could stab him, he stopped him just in time.
he has been put through so many and he did all of it...and he was willing to loose it...why because he loves him!
so yes saying no to her that is more like a sacrifice is saying that he loves God and he will loose everything to still have him.
YesWeCantaloupe I think it's because they had so many characters and subplots in the story, it was hard for them to give everything and all the characters the level of backstory they deserved. I felt that way about _Courageous_ to a degree. The first time you watched it, you found yourself thinking that the movie was near ending, when in fact it had a few more unforeseen ends to tie up. :)
Calob Urquidi WOW! Did you really memorized this entire alienation? Spitting beliefs without context.... not great way to advertise it...
@@ThatClassic70sGirl I thought the same thing. We kind of got that ending recently in Courageous Legacy.
@@ThatClassic70sGirl Who is the actress who plays Josh Wheaton's girlfriend in God's Not Dead?
She’s what I’d call a Cultural Christian. Only applying her faith when it’s convenient for her or makes her look good.
Best conclusion I’ve ever heard, in other words she uses God as a piece of clothing or an accessory, well her loss of having a man like Josh who stood strong for God just as he did for us.
Imagine taking this film in general and this scene in particular seriously.
He is better off without her because she makes everything about her and not him because God wanted him to do something that other people will not understand and sometimes it is hard to trust the Lord but if we are willing to leave the results to him and give our lives to him and we will reap a bountiful harvest and we will leave blessed more than we could ever imagine I hope I do not meet someone as selfish as her she makes her relationship with him more important then her relationship with God and that is not the way a Christian should be we need to put God first in everything we do and not a boyfriend or girlfriend or even our relationships with our family but we need to put God first and also my family even if it cost us those relationships with the people we love we must never forget who loved us first and best
stand or fall for anything they say, its your choice and your life!!!
bros ruining his relationship trying to force someone to believe in god
A funny 😁
Matthew 19:29 "And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life." This includes girlfriends.
Romans 8:28
God has a lan
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What is a lan?
She doesn't realize that he is putting God 1st and it ain't selfish on his part in my opinion she had no right breaking up with him.
That's why Jesus is our one true love.
Ryan Broker I mean, she is selfish, he does whatever he wants. But putting god first is just a moral rule, I’m am atheist and that does not compromise my values
😮 funny 😆
I have a parable, since you Christians like parables. Pay attention to it:
There was a boy, who grew up in his small town. Now, this town told him all kinds of things. It told him that he was the best artist. It told him that the town's festivals were the most exciting events to take part in, with the best food and drink there is. It told him that seniors retire to live quietly in the county retirement home. It told him that everyone lived in nice little houses happily next to each other. It told him that their religion was the only true religion, and that outsiders were trying to ruin the peace of that town and all the other towns like it.
The boy grew up and took all of this for granted--everything the town told him, he took for truth.
After graduation, he went to apply to art schools. Every single one turned him down. He wondered to himself why, and then he went online to look at other art for the first time, and to his wonder, saw all the amazing and creative ideas people were sharing, visions he'd never even dreamed possible with art. The art in his small town, and the art that the other small towns like it all shared amongst themselves, seemed so limited in comparison.
He moved to the city to study privately, and heard of a grand festival being held and went to it. There was food from all over the world, flowers and trees from all over the world, dancers, colorful lights and fireworks, displays and performances the likes of which he'd never seen. The festivals in his small town, and those he traveled to the other towns to perform in, were all the same. He kept asking himself why this was. Why the art was the same and the festivals were the same.
And there were older people at these festivals! They didn't live in retirement homes--they were out, dining and enjoying themselves, sharing stories with the younger generations, even giving amazing musical performances and doing amazing art well into their senior years, never becoming less passionate or feeling that time had slipped away from them. They were not all the same, struggling, under-stimulated, under-appreciated seniors he had seen in his small town and had heard about in the other towns. Why, though? WHY?
The houses had a life to them--some had a long history and were kept the way they were for hundreds of years. Some were designed by the best architectural artists and designers in the world. Some towered above the streets, and some had wonderful murals of heroes and icons and majestic scenes painted all over them. Some weren't as lucky, though, and had weeds growing in them, broken windows, rusted appliances thrown out on the lawn, vandalized fences. His town seemed so perfect with its rows of houses, but then in this place, there were both wonders and miseries. Why? Why did his town have its carbon-copied houses, and why did this place have such amazing places but also miserable ones?
He went to one of the ruined-looking houses, to a woman sitting outside. He asked,
"I've seen so many wonderful things in this city, so much amazing art and such spectacular festivals with such incredible food and music and sights, people living long, invigorating lives well into their senior years, and places full of character and culture and architectural beauty. But I didn't see this part of the city until now. Why does such an otherwise vibrant place have all of these terrible, out-of-repair houses and crime?"
The woman replied, "Because all of these things are the truth."
He began to reflect on that. The city hadn't tried to hide the truth from him. It told him he wasn't yet good enough at art. It told him of all the celebrations and cultures of the world. It told him that passion for life and for work didn't stop at retirement. It told him that houses weren't the same and society wasn't the same--that there was extreme inequality in those things. And he thought about what else his little town had told him, and what little towns everywhere were telling others. What were the chances, given all of what he'd experienced, that the religion of these small towns was the truth and not also a delusion? That the outsiders were really trying to ruin the peace and not simply wanting to share with them things from the outside?
He asked the woman, "Then why did the town I grew up in hide the truth from me?"
She paused a moment, and then replied, "Maybe because the people in that town are afraid to end up like me."
Anyone, man or woman, who forces their significant other to choose between them or God, is someone who walks in darkness.
" So you want me to choose between you and God? Very well then! DONT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE WAY OUT!!! "
Unevenly yoked
Welcome to my life. 😞
Such incredible acting. I hope allah smiles upon these kind young actors. It’s rare you see an openly gay man in a Christian movie. How brave. I also heard a lot of the money this movie made went to help homeless transgender youth. Doin gods work!
What openly gay young man are you referring to?
Honestly, Josh's girlfriend was very selfish.
My mom was so abusive to me i always thought it was me, she has Dementia, i was the one there even through the abuse, other siblings used her but pretended, I always had this huge birth mark in my back, one day about two yrs ago it disappeared, mom was sitting outside looking mad , i was sitting with her, i said mom that birth mark just disappeared, she kept staring out, she said it wasn’t a birthmark you were burned by an iron, you were two, she was ironing and she left the room the iron fell on me back, she kept staring as she was telling me this, she said when i cam e back you were quivering but you put the iron back, and just st stared at the evil she was telling me, i said you burned me, she said i knew you were different at two yrs old.. we were out in the country, me still in my pajamas, packed my stuff and left, she runs out with a picture of me my older brother ( not even a yr between us, and my dad) then i knew , biggest release in my life.. came home made some phone calls, they all kn w and covered, Narcissistic personality is real, she was a huge church goer, saving everyone… now she can s in a home and keeps asking for me. . i’m good, the biggest release in my life, thank you my lord and savior.
fear of the lord is the begining of wisdom proverbs 17.
Amen!!!
what is the song during the breakup scene
3:20 song?
So she's a Christian but doesn't want him standing up for their cult? Isn't that against the cult's rules?
+Pixii Kenszingteon Wow, a cult? Thats what faith in Jesus Christ and God is to you?
+Alexandar Ostojic Pretty much, fictional character worship by groups of people and the willingness to accept atrocity on the reason of "God said is good, thus it is". This is all assume we're talking about Christianity, if not, then never mind.
+KevvlFan Jesus is a fictional character? You cant be serious. Jesus Christ is the best documemted person in history. More people wrote about him then any other historical person.
Alexandar Ostojic
Jesus might be a real person, but his ability and his suppose identity as God's son which is also God is as fictional as Harry Potter.
+KevvlFan How do you know that?
For whoever denies Me before men, I will deny him before my Father who is in Heaven. Matthew 26:34 bye Felicia...
And why would such a loving God persecute you based on your beliefs and not your actions?
4:31
Why would she get mad cos hes preparing a debate and break with him over that lol makes no sense
Because she thinks that Josh needs to prioritize her over everything else because his decisions are affecting their future. She says that god wants Adam to be with her so wanting to prioritize God is the same as prioritizing her but it's not the same thing. You can't put someone or something on the same level as god in your life. God needs to be the clear #1.
If she really loved him she would've let him stand up for God and admire the purpose God has given him. Nobody should ever be bossing you around in a relationship.
I don't think she was bossing him around. The way I see it, she raised her very valid concerns to him. He reciprocated by saying that everyone has been urging him to do the same thing. And so, she most likely assumes that that is what he is going to do. Once he made his decision, he didn't tell her about it. And so, she understandably git upset about the fact that he went behind her back.
Now obviously both of their communication skills should be improved, but that doesn't mean that anyone is definitely in the wrong.
@@amethyst7468 I see your point too. However I guess my main concern of this scene was that even though he went behind her back, she still should've seen how important this was to him and the love he had for God. If she was truly christian and loved him, she would've let him stand up to the professor.
@@sirvincerd9346
Yes I see what you mean. And I feel that to truly understand her we have to put ourselves in her shoes. It was established in the movie that she went to this university though she had 2 much better options just to be with josh. She seems like a type A person having planned how the next ten years of her life are going to look like. Now to have that all crushed just because her boyfriend wants to get into a philosophical argument about God's existence, a highly nuanced subject even the greatest minds don't have a set answer to. And even if he wins said argument, chances are he is still going to fail this class because humans have pride and tend to double down especially when put on a pedestal. Now not only will her boyfriend most likely fail this class, but he is also giving it all of his attention, meaning that he is most probably going to fail all of his other classes. That with the fact that I don't belive a God that loves you would want you to jeopardise your entire future for them not to get an ego bruise, I don't think she should be labeled a "fake," "wrong" or "bad" Christian for not wanting him to partake in this debate.
@@amethyst7468 Yeah I can see from that persective too. She planned everything to work out good for both of them, but backfired due to the debate. However what this scene shows us is that if we truly love God, we ought to sacrifice and stand up for what we believe in. For instance if I was asked to sign a paper saying "God doesn't exist" just to get a job, I would deny it because I am a christ follower. I would just look elsewhere, even if I was low on funds. This dude loved God that much to throw his career away, but at the end of the movie he won anyways, inspired others, and the professor was saved before he died in a car wreck.
He was in the right.
This relationship fell apart like they've been going out for a week. It wasn't convincing at all.
Rez I loved the movie but I’ll agree that they could’ve done more to add context to the relationship. There’s not a lot about Kara and their relationship so I didn’t really care as much about that relationship not working. Ayesha on the other hand there’s a lot of context about her family and her struggle with them not accepting her, so I was significantly more emotionally invested. Same goes for Martin and his father even though he had a lot less screen time in the movie.
God not dead
Jesus and the Apostle Paul warned that If you deny Jesus publicly before men that Jesus will deny you in the presence of God the Father And His Holy Angels. If you are ashamed of him he will be ashamed of you. If you love your wife or family or money or anything more than Jesus, and you do not want to take up your cross and deny yourself then you are not worthy of Jesus.
He that is unmarried cares for the things of God and he that is married cares for the things of the world how he may please his wife. If you are a friend of the world you are an enemy of God. Read your scriptures people. This man made the best decision of his life even though it's just a movie. Too many Christians are a bunch of Esau's walking around who sold their Birthright for a bowl of meat
The imaginary friend is not dead
Look All of Us have this little dragon /god that wants to be the center of the universe and when We dont humble that dragon Before the True God We get in trouble
A part of me feels like she should be more supportive but at the same time I feel like he should let it go cuz he can’t make everyone believe in God or argue his beliefs. Lots of believers don’t fight
how would Christians feel if the story is reversed: you have a young Richard Dawkins being forced to sign "there is a God" by a Christian professor?
sad.i think their signing that so the professor doesnt fail them
It would be a very different movie.
Sean Armstrong I’m a Christian. I would absolutely not support this for several reasons. First, the first amendment guarantees freedom of religion meaning that your right to express your beliefs is generally your own and that includes the right not to be forced to act or speak in conflict with those beliefs. Also, in the Bible it’s said many times that people must *choose to accept god for salvation. If you simply just said you believe when you don’t it doesn’t mean anything and actually might be worse. God gave us free will for a reason even though he knew it could allow people to be led astray or reject him to their detriment because faith in him must be freely chosen by an individual for it to have any meaning.
This is job's wife
If professor radision was the most important person in his life he wouldn’t have done the arugment
A Dead Eternal God??? ... I'm confused.
BigCooter.com it’s religion 😂
she's right, SHE"S A QUEENNNN
i wonder if they ever got back together....
loveyourlifealways I'm afraid they're not getting back together the entire movie. Sorry.
loveyourlifealways There is God's not dead 2 the sequel for God's not dead. Maybe they will get back together in the second movie.
heyitsfelz There's a sequel in development? Cool! =) Thanks for letting everyone know!
+ThatClassic70sGirl it's out now
@@MichaelRyanMoss With any luck, she left faith behind entirely and became a free-thinker. The world is so much easier to understand when you take the blinders of religion off.
How could anyone watch this scene and think this is remotely realistic?
I absolutely love this movie I thought Josh should have ended the movie with the young lady who was thrown out of her house cause she believed in god instead of being with the blonde girl
How in the hell did they put in "It's either me or Professor Radisson" and expect me not to want Josh and Radisson to fuck????????
Josh is SO much smarter than her because he got an A for this.
In real life, I'd give him an F and ask him to stay after class so I could explain why every single one of his arguments is fundamentally wrong and logically flawed.
He seems like a good kid, he's just been fed the lies of Christian fundamentalism.
Alec Eisenbeis You sound just as bias and as his professor.
@@Eisenbison then you would be prejudiced and wrong.
@@garyjones2561 No college professor in history has ever acted like the one in this movie. If he did, he'd be fired for religious discrimination and for not teaching the subject he's paid to teach.
In any case, all of this student's "arguments" are very easy to counter and refute. There's no reason anyone should believe in God and there are plenty of good reasons NOT to believe.
@@Eisenbison exactly. God committed Genocide more times then Christians can recall. Literally destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for homosexuality
So, THIS was where I got the inspiration to break up with my ex after she made an anti-God decision! 😮
Correction She wants him with her. And I willSay this preaching about Jesus is not stupid. And she needed to break up with Josh anyway because he is not the right person for her anyway. If wanted a girlfriend or if a girl wanted me to be her boyfriend I would ask her this question. Do you believe in Jesus Christ ✝️?
Eshhhh reminds me about the time I broke up with my ex to be with God
She's not willing to let anything outside come between them? Not even God, and yet she calls herself his follower? Clearly she's the sort of soul that believes love SHOULD be unconditional. He understands that that's bs at least on some level.
Oh my Lord this movie is bad
No real Christian woman would say that whatever
Josh go Josh God not dead
You're right. Something can't die if it doesn't exist.
T funny 😄
1John 4:4
Kathie Lee and Frank's kid....not bad for first? time acting?.....
This is a horrible reality with so called Christian girls they won't support the decisions of God and try to box God into something that only they can understand and what they make of him all I can say actions speak louder than Instagram bios
Forget about me. Choose to honor God with everything you do. Poor choice of words on my end I'm sorry I'll be praying for you