This is a great test you did. I have a lot of experience shooting all three of these brands and models of bullets in a 7mm Remington Mag. I shoot the 175 ABLR (handloads with H1000) at 2850 fps. The 180 grain ELDM at almost 2900 fps (custom loads from BOTW - Best of the West) and 162 grain ELDX (Factory Hornady at about 3000 fps). I would definitely give the nod to the ABLR for hunting. With a velocity under 2900 fps at the Muzzle, they perform well from 50 to 1000 yards. I have never shot an animal over 600 yards with them but feel they would perform ok probably out to 1000 yards, on deer sized animals. I have shot moose, zebra, deer, warthogs, impala, wildebeest and a few other species with this bullet. Zero failures and recovered bullets were 60 to 110 grains (estimated). The 180 ELDM worked very well in NZ (Tahr, Fallow deer and Stag) from 200-500 yards). There were no failures and accuracy is very similar to the ABLR. The 162 ELDX I liked the least. There was very poor penetration on several animals. It didn't even exit an Impala at 100 yards. At 500 yards on a big Kudu, I shot it 3 times and bullets seemed to perform better than at 100 yards. As you mentioned in the video, these lead core bullets perform better with MV under 2900 fps. Berger bullets are the same. I found the 180 grain Hybrid Hunter from a 7mm, at 2850-2900 fps kills better than the 168 at 3000 fps. That is the beauty of a Monolithic. In the 7mm, you can shoot 140-150 grain bullets at 3100 to 3250 fps and still hit an animal at 10 yards or 500 yards and you won't have failure. Monolithic have a higher operating window with velocity than lead core/target style bullets. The Bonded bullets like Swift A-frames, Terminal accent, Trophy Bonded, etc. can be shot at over 3000 fps MV, but their BCs are lower than Custom Monolithic bullets like the Cutting Edge Laser and Badlands Bulldozers. I have had great success with Swift A frames and Trophy Bonded also on Bears, Moose, Elk. The Accubonds and ABLR Bullets are not technically bonded (they are more glued) like a Swift or Trophy Bonded, but they are much stronger than Ballistic tips, SST, ELDM and ELDX bullets at close range.
Great video Yes matching velocity with bullet type and construction is important. At various yardage. And what game you’re hunting. Knowing that and staying within those boundaries makes you a better hunter.
Mate, Thanks very much for your time and effort in showing us these different projectiles expansion and penetration performance. You are the first Video I've found showing comparisons between the performance at close and very Long range velocities. It seems that all three perform similarly at close ranges. Certainly I'd be Happy to hunt with any of them. At Very long range, low velocities the ELD-M still expanded rapidly, where the Tougher ELD-X and Accubond LR were delayed until 4" or 5". The ELD-M seem to be a worthy upgrade to the A-Max, keeping all the good expansion while increasing the BC. It's great they're so affordable, even Downunder. Most of my Hunting is upto Deer and maybe the odd Piggy. So the 140gn or 147gn ELD-M should be a great choice. I'd Love to see another comparison by you of a deeply penetrating, Big game, premium projectile like the good old Nosler Partition or newer Barnes TTSX LR to see their performance at close Vs expansion at longer range velocities?
I do plan on doing videos on copper alloy bullet and more of the different Noslers bullets. Just need more time and they dont give away bullets so as soon as I am done testing what I have on my shelf I will start ordering different ones and doing more test.
@@simplemindedfella Lehigh Controlled chaos Copper projectiles are also worth considering. I've shot their 115gn 308, broadside into a large Goat's chest at 50Y. All 6 of the petals and base separated and exited the far side, even punching through offside ribs. All those wound channels inside the ribcage tore up the vitals and no lead residue. The petals probably won't exit at longer ranges, but they increase the chances of cutting a few vital organs and causing rapid blood loss. They have videos with them expanding and separating down near 1400fps.
In November I did a deer hunt with the .223 using the ELD-M and shot 3 at about a 100 yards. All heart shots, saying that because no large bones were hit and the pills were broken in very small pieces. All passing thru. What passed thru must have been not much. Very little blood trail on 2 of them but none went more the 50' before dropping. The largest had a large blood trail. I will say pass on the 150-200 lb deer using the ELD-M. I'm thinking if the distance was 150-200 yards that the bullet would have slowed down a bit and not have had the bullet fragmenting as much. It's probably why they say it should be a target round. The thinner jacket showed the effect.
Eldx doesn’t holed up if you hit bone! I shot a 8 point last week and had to shoot it twice and both bullets fell out on the shoulder on the same side of impact. This is the third deer eldx never penetrates all the way through deer . All were 150 to two hundred yards.
I only use them for medium - to small game, mostly predators out of rifles that have 2700 fps or less at the muzzle. With high velocity impacts, they are crap.
Curious if you have come accross the nosler 150 grain ablr yet? I was planning on developing a load with the 142, but was unable to find any. However, I was ablel to get my hands on the 150 and plan to develop my hunting load for larger game wth that (6.5 PRC). I am assuming that the results would be really similar to the 142, but I am pretty new to this and was curious what your thoughts would be? If you were able to do a test with that comparing that would be awesome! Either way great videos! much appreciated.
I haven't yet. If I was to shoot a 6.5 PRC the 150 ablr would be one of my first choice bullet. The better sectionl density will give better penetration then the 142's and you will definitely want that with the added velocity of the PRC.
@@simplemindedfella Thats good to hear. I will plan on moving forward with that and hopefully find a good load, if I can ever find powder. The only thing I have been able to get my hands on is N570 so hopefully that works ok.
Going to disagree on one point. The energy is there to allow the bullet to pass completely through the animal. The animal is not taking any more energy than you are on your shoulder. Two holes in the animals are always better than one. Also, the bullet is decelerating turning the energy into heat which is not available as energy to pass to the animal. Retained weight of a bullet is always better.. I agree that mushrooming is needed to give temporary and permanent one cavities through the middle of the thorax. Good job, keep the videos coming. Peace
So as of now, what bullets have you found expand well or the best at lower velocities for the 6.5 creedmoor? Im putting together a 16 inch 6.5 cm bolt gun that will permanently wear a suppressor and want to be able to take whitetail out to 400 yards with this setup in worse case scenario
Lead core I would start with the Nosler 142 grain ABLR. I use them in my Creedmoor and have harvest a few whitetail between six and seven hundred yards. My muzzle velocity is 2700 fps. (I also use them for Elk) Monolithic wise I like hammer bullets but I am strongly considering Badlands as I absolutely love how the Bulldozer 2 performs with high velocity (close range) and their super high BC's would give more than enough velocity/energy well passed 400 yds out of a really short barreled Creedmoor. The Hornaday ELD-X and M's performance is near identical and both are good if your muzzle velocities are not to high. The Creedmoor I was using them in I slowed the velocities down to the 2600 fps range and that eliminated the trouble I was having with over fragmentation and under penetration within 100 yards.
@@simplemindedfella awesome, i have used the eld-m with my 6mm cm suppressed and they were great but it was also from a 26 inch barrel. Hopefully this 16 inch works in my favor
@@djmcdonald5508 Should work quite well for you I have two 16" 308's that are dear slayers and I trust a 6.5 Creedmoor with the right bullet pretty much anywhere I trust the 308 Winchester.
@@djmcdonald5508 This is one of my older videos that has darker blocks it's a little harder to see what's going on but they did test fairly well at that level of velocity. ruclips.net/video/XzaPvC8bC6g/видео.html
I'm way off the charts with my one Browning X-bolt (it loves them hot) shooting 2910 fps average. 2700 fps is obtainable in most Creedmoors, 2800 fps is pushing it. RL16 consistently gives me the best velocities with good accuracy. I have had good luck with IMR4451, H4350 gives good accuracy but I typically can't get the velocities I like without pressure signs.
This is a great video. I shoot a 6.5 PRC and the factory Hornady ammo is crazy accurate out of it. Do you find any real benefit to use an ELD-X over the M on elk? The interlock ring is so shallow, it seems to not make a huge difference at high velocity impacts. Thanks.
If I were to use Hornady bullets in the 6.5 PRC I would use the ELD X over the ELD M as it does hold together a little bit better but I have found with most ledcor bullets that are not bonded or some form of a partition that you really don't want muzzle velocities over 2,900 feet per second or your bullets will over fragment on close-range shots. I think you'll find if you use either one hunting that neither one will work well out of the 6.5 PRC for animals closer than about 200 yards as the bullet is going to hit them moving too fast it's going to cause excessive damage and minimal penetration. I've heard a lot of complaints on the ELD X bullet over fragmenting when moving at higher velocities I would strongly recommend trying the Nosler accubond long ranges or partitions. Partitions are a phenomenal performing bullet but are a little lacking in their ballistic coefficient. I am a huge fan of Hornady bullets I have hunted with them for years absolutely love them but I shoot them primarily out of short action non magnums so I don't have to worry about the over fragmentation at close range from having too high of muzzle velocities I just have to limit myself to around 600 yards on my shots to know that the bullet is definitely going to perform.
@@chrislowman9591 agreed. If your muzzle velocities are much over 2600 fps with the eld-x you get these results. If Hornady would start bonding these they may be an okay elk bullet, but until they do I would suggest staying away from them. I have found the 142 gr ABLR to work much better on deer and will be using the ABLR on a cow elk hunt first week of Dec.
@@chrislowman9591 if I were you I would remove the ELD-X bullets from your list. The more I mess with the the more I dislike them. At low velocities they do good but they come apart bad and do not penetrate at higher velocities. Those higher velocities are anything impacting at 2500+ fps. Shot out of a Creedmoor they are not good within 200 yards and shot out of a PRC they are not good within 300 yards. Most of my shots are within 300 yards so these bullets are not good for me and I will not recommend that anybody use them on big game.
Dont mean to critizise your test, i love em, but dont you thini that arround 2000fps would be more realiatic avarage impact velocity? As 1400fps would be a 1000 yard shot. And 2000 maybe 250-350ish. And who takes seriously shots at a 1000 at game woth a 6.5?
I agree those kind of ranges are pushing the limits of the 0.264 caliber bullets. Unfortunately there are many that do with cartridges like the 6.5 PRC and 26 Nosler. Take the 6.5 Grendel for example and it dose not have to travel very far to drop to those numbers. I shot them out of a Creedmoor for testing, you could use them in many different cartridges.
@@simplemindedfella yeah you are right, out of a PRC it will still go probably 1500-1700 at 1000. But i guess 80% off the deer will be shot inside 200 yards. Amd another 15% between 200-300. 5% are longer shots. Maybe out west distamces are abit more usualy. The longest shot I've tsken on a deer is 450 yards. And that was with a 7mm mag with 162gr eld-x, i love them bullets. Shot a truckload of deer with it. Would be imteresting to see what they would do out of your 7mm-08. Probably mv would be in the range off a 300-400 yard 7mm rem mag shot.
I appreciate the low velocity testing(every bullets weakness). I get irritated watching the goofballs shooting premium bullets(especially the ones popular for long range) at gel blocks from 50-100 yards. I know this is two years old and noone cares but thank you for doing intelligent tests despite all the fudds thinking they know something commenting on all your videos. I have actually saw you mentioned on some forums, referencing some simple minded feller, which I laughed at as an insult until I saw your channel name lol. You are indeed and I love it. Cheers😂
I have use bone, PVC, plywood and other materials to try to get them to fail and they still perform well. The ABLR dose do a better job then the ELD-X. Bonded vs not the bonded will almost always do better. Having personally harvested many game species with both out of a Creedmoor I do like the ABLR much better then the ELD-X. I have even taken elk with the ABLR without issue. The ELD-X comes apart to much for my liking and I have never used it for elk. I stick with monolithic, partitioned, or bonded for all my elk hunting regardless of caliber or case driving it.
I have to disagree with you here based off of my experience I have dropped several mule deer and whitetail deer and have even taken elk with the 142 grain accu bond long range and it has proven to be more than affective. Barnes ttsx is an excellent bullet, I however get better terminal performance from both the nosler e tip and hornady gmx.
This is a great test you did. I have a lot of experience shooting all three of these brands and models of bullets in a 7mm Remington Mag. I shoot the 175 ABLR (handloads with H1000) at 2850 fps. The 180 grain ELDM at almost 2900 fps (custom loads from BOTW - Best of the West) and 162 grain ELDX (Factory Hornady at about 3000 fps). I would definitely give the nod to the ABLR for hunting. With a velocity under 2900 fps at the Muzzle, they perform well from 50 to 1000 yards. I have never shot an animal over 600 yards with them but feel they would perform ok probably out to 1000 yards, on deer sized animals. I have shot moose, zebra, deer, warthogs, impala, wildebeest and a few other species with this bullet. Zero failures and recovered bullets were 60 to 110 grains (estimated). The 180 ELDM worked very well in NZ (Tahr, Fallow deer and Stag) from 200-500 yards). There were no failures and accuracy is very similar to the ABLR. The 162 ELDX I liked the least. There was very poor penetration on several animals. It didn't even exit an Impala at 100 yards. At 500 yards on a big Kudu, I shot it 3 times and bullets seemed to perform better than at 100 yards. As you mentioned in the video, these lead core bullets perform better with MV under 2900 fps. Berger bullets are the same. I found the 180 grain Hybrid Hunter from a 7mm, at 2850-2900 fps kills better than the 168 at 3000 fps. That is the beauty of a Monolithic. In the 7mm, you can shoot 140-150 grain bullets at 3100 to 3250 fps and still hit an animal at 10 yards or 500 yards and you won't have failure. Monolithic have a higher operating window with velocity than lead core/target style bullets. The Bonded bullets like Swift A-frames, Terminal accent, Trophy Bonded, etc. can be shot at over 3000 fps MV, but their BCs are lower than Custom Monolithic bullets like the Cutting Edge Laser and Badlands Bulldozers. I have had great success with Swift A frames and Trophy Bonded also on Bears, Moose, Elk. The Accubonds and ABLR Bullets are not technically bonded (they are more glued) like a Swift or Trophy Bonded, but they are much stronger than Ballistic tips, SST, ELDM and ELDX bullets at close range.
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Great vid. I only shoot pigs and whitetail around here. But I love using the eld-m. I try to tell my friends how great they are.
Thanks. Appreciate the data & perspective. Good show.
Awsome Videos! Thanks these have been very helpful to me as a beginner reloader.
I only shoot nosler so thanks for the video now I know the ABLR 142 will work in my new 6.5 creedmore
Great video
Yes matching velocity with bullet type and construction is important.
At various yardage.
And what game you’re hunting.
Knowing that and staying within those boundaries makes you a better hunter.
Mate, Thanks very much for your time and effort in showing us these different projectiles expansion and penetration performance. You are the first Video I've found showing comparisons between the performance at close and very Long range velocities. It seems that all three perform similarly at close ranges. Certainly I'd be Happy to hunt with any of them. At Very long range, low velocities the ELD-M still expanded rapidly, where the Tougher ELD-X and Accubond LR were delayed until 4" or 5".
The ELD-M seem to be a worthy upgrade to the A-Max, keeping all the good expansion while increasing the BC. It's great they're so affordable, even Downunder.
Most of my Hunting is upto Deer and maybe the odd Piggy. So the 140gn or 147gn ELD-M should be a great choice.
I'd Love to see another comparison by you of a deeply penetrating, Big game, premium projectile like the good old Nosler Partition or newer Barnes TTSX LR to see their performance at close Vs expansion at longer range velocities?
I do plan on doing videos on copper alloy bullet and more of the different Noslers bullets. Just need more time and they dont give away bullets so as soon as I am done testing what I have on my shelf I will start ordering different ones and doing more test.
@@simplemindedfella Lehigh Controlled chaos Copper projectiles are also worth considering. I've shot their 115gn 308, broadside into a large Goat's chest at 50Y. All 6 of the petals and base separated and exited the far side, even punching through offside ribs. All those wound channels inside the ribcage tore up the vitals and no lead residue.
The petals probably won't exit at longer ranges, but they increase the chances of cutting a few vital organs and causing rapid blood loss. They have videos with them expanding and separating down near 1400fps.
Here are a few of the cheaper different copper bullets.
ruclips.net/video/9NdwIEmoh1U/видео.html
Verry good info!!
Great video!
Why run the Hornadys 200 fps slower than the ABLR? 🤔
great video. Which would you recommend on black bear within 120 yds?
ABLR is my go-to in the Creedmoor
Great info... Thanks
In November I did a deer hunt with the .223 using the ELD-M and shot 3 at about a 100 yards. All heart shots, saying that because no large bones were hit and the pills were broken in very small pieces. All passing thru. What passed thru must have been not much. Very little blood trail on 2 of them but none went more the 50' before dropping. The largest had a large blood trail. I will say pass on the 150-200 lb deer using the ELD-M. I'm thinking if the distance was 150-200 yards that the bullet would have slowed down a bit and not have had the bullet fragmenting as much. It's probably why they say it should be a target round. The thinner jacket showed the effect.
Eldx doesn’t holed up if you hit bone! I shot a 8 point last week and had to shoot it twice and both bullets fell out on the shoulder on the same side of impact. This is the third deer eldx never penetrates all the way through deer . All were 150 to two hundred yards.
I only use them for medium - to small game, mostly predators out of rifles that have 2700 fps or less at the muzzle. With high velocity impacts, they are crap.
Curious if you have come accross the nosler 150 grain ablr yet? I was planning on developing a load with the 142, but was unable to find any. However, I was ablel to get my hands on the 150 and plan to develop my hunting load for larger game wth that (6.5 PRC). I am assuming that the results would be really similar to the 142, but I am pretty new to this and was curious what your thoughts would be? If you were able to do a test with that comparing that would be awesome! Either way great videos! much appreciated.
I haven't yet. If I was to shoot a 6.5 PRC the 150 ablr would be one of my first choice bullet. The better sectionl density will give better penetration then the 142's and you will definitely want that with the added velocity of the PRC.
@@simplemindedfella Thats good to hear. I will plan on moving forward with that and hopefully find a good load, if I can ever find powder. The only thing I have been able to get my hands on is N570 so hopefully that works ok.
Not sure how you have such a wide range of velocity with damn near the same grain bullets.
I use eldx and eldm for varmints tend to stick with accubond long range and barnes lrx for hunting stuff I eat
Going to disagree on one point. The energy is there to allow the bullet to pass completely through the animal. The animal is not taking any more energy than you are on your shoulder. Two holes in the animals are always better than one. Also, the bullet is decelerating turning the energy into heat which is not available as energy to pass to the animal. Retained weight of a bullet is always better.. I agree that mushrooming is needed to give temporary and permanent one cavities through the middle of the thorax. Good job, keep the videos coming. Peace
So as of now, what bullets have you found expand well or the best at lower velocities for the 6.5 creedmoor? Im putting together a 16 inch 6.5 cm bolt gun that will permanently wear a suppressor and want to be able to take whitetail out to 400 yards with this setup in worse case scenario
Lead core I would start with the Nosler 142 grain ABLR. I use them in my Creedmoor and have harvest a few whitetail between six and seven hundred yards. My muzzle velocity is 2700 fps. (I also use them for Elk)
Monolithic wise I like hammer bullets but I am strongly considering Badlands as I absolutely love how the Bulldozer 2 performs with high velocity (close range) and their super high BC's would give more than enough velocity/energy well passed 400 yds out of a really short barreled Creedmoor.
The Hornaday ELD-X and M's performance is near identical and both are good if your muzzle velocities are not to high. The Creedmoor I was using them in I slowed the velocities down to the 2600 fps range and that eliminated the trouble I was having with over fragmentation and under penetration within 100 yards.
@@simplemindedfella awesome, i have used the eld-m with my 6mm cm suppressed and they were great but it was also from a 26 inch barrel. Hopefully this 16 inch works in my favor
@@djmcdonald5508 Should work quite well for you I have two 16" 308's that are dear slayers and I trust a 6.5 Creedmoor with the right bullet pretty much anywhere I trust the 308 Winchester.
@@simplemindedfella have you had any tests with 6.5 eld-m at around 1600 fps? If so how did it fair?
@@djmcdonald5508 This is one of my older videos that has darker blocks it's a little harder to see what's going on but they did test fairly well at that level of velocity.
ruclips.net/video/XzaPvC8bC6g/видео.html
I have a question about the Nosler , what load were you using / powder? The Nosler data shows 2733 for their top load
I'm way off the charts with my one Browning X-bolt (it loves them hot) shooting 2910 fps average. 2700 fps is obtainable in most Creedmoors, 2800 fps is pushing it.
RL16 consistently gives me the best velocities with good accuracy. I have had good luck with IMR4451, H4350 gives good accuracy but I typically can't get the velocities I like without pressure signs.
This is a great video. I shoot a 6.5 PRC and the factory Hornady ammo is crazy accurate out of it. Do you find any real benefit to use an ELD-X over the M on elk? The interlock ring is so shallow, it seems to not make a huge difference at high velocity impacts. Thanks.
If I were to use Hornady bullets in the 6.5 PRC I would use the ELD X over the ELD M as it does hold together a little bit better but I have found with most ledcor bullets that are not bonded or some form of a partition that you really don't want muzzle velocities over 2,900 feet per second or your bullets will over fragment on close-range shots.
I think you'll find if you use either one hunting that neither one will work well out of the 6.5 PRC for animals closer than about 200 yards as the bullet is going to hit them moving too fast it's going to cause excessive damage and minimal penetration.
I've heard a lot of complaints on the ELD X bullet over fragmenting when moving at higher velocities I would strongly recommend trying the Nosler accubond long ranges or partitions. Partitions are a phenomenal performing bullet but are a little lacking in their ballistic coefficient.
I am a huge fan of Hornady bullets I have hunted with them for years absolutely love them but I shoot them primarily out of short action non magnums so I don't have to worry about the over fragmentation at close range from having too high of muzzle velocities I just have to limit myself to around 600 yards on my shots to know that the bullet is definitely going to perform.
Simple Minded Fella Thank you for the response. Solid info.
@@chrislowman9591 agreed. If your muzzle velocities are much over 2600 fps with the eld-x you get these results. If Hornady would start bonding these they may be an okay elk bullet, but until they do I would suggest staying away from them. I have found the 142 gr ABLR to work much better on deer and will be using the ABLR on a cow elk hunt first week of Dec.
@@chrislowman9591 I too have had alarming results, luckily in tests, with the ELD-X and will only use them on coyotes. They blew my confidence.
@@chrislowman9591 if I were you I would remove the ELD-X bullets from your list. The more I mess with the the more I dislike them. At low velocities they do good but they come apart bad and do not penetrate at higher velocities. Those higher velocities are anything impacting at 2500+ fps. Shot out of a Creedmoor they are not good within 200 yards and shot out of a PRC they are not good within 300 yards. Most of my shots are within 300 yards so these bullets are not good for me and I will not recommend that anybody use them on big game.
You didn’t cover the distances you shot at from and too the gel block at the beginning of the video?
I do my testing around 15 yards and use reduced loads to simulate long range shots.
Dont mean to critizise your test, i love em, but dont you thini that arround 2000fps would be more realiatic avarage impact velocity? As 1400fps would be a 1000 yard shot. And 2000 maybe 250-350ish. And who takes seriously shots at a 1000 at game woth a 6.5?
I agree those kind of ranges are pushing the limits of the 0.264 caliber bullets. Unfortunately there are many that do with cartridges like the 6.5 PRC and 26 Nosler. Take the 6.5 Grendel for example and it dose not have to travel very far to drop to those numbers. I shot them out of a Creedmoor for testing, you could use them in many different cartridges.
@@simplemindedfella yeah you are right, out of a PRC it will still go probably 1500-1700 at 1000. But i guess 80% off the deer will be shot inside 200 yards. Amd another 15% between 200-300. 5% are longer shots. Maybe out west distamces are abit more usualy. The longest shot I've tsken on a deer is 450 yards. And that was with a 7mm mag with 162gr eld-x, i love them bullets. Shot a truckload of deer with it. Would be imteresting to see what they would do out of your 7mm-08. Probably mv would be in the range off a 300-400 yard 7mm rem mag shot.
I appreciate the low velocity testing(every bullets weakness). I get irritated watching the goofballs shooting premium bullets(especially the ones popular for long range) at gel blocks from 50-100 yards. I know this is two years old and noone cares but thank you for doing intelligent tests despite all the fudds thinking they know something commenting on all your videos. I have actually saw you mentioned on some forums, referencing some simple minded feller, which I laughed at as an insult until I saw your channel name lol. You are indeed and I love it. Cheers😂
Looks like they would all kill.
Yes they would
now put a bone in the mix and watch them fail to penetrate at long range and blow up at short range, no thanks
I have use bone, PVC, plywood and other materials to try to get them to fail and they still perform well. The ABLR dose do a better job then the ELD-X. Bonded vs not the bonded will almost always do better.
Having personally harvested many game species with both out of a Creedmoor I do like the ABLR much better then the ELD-X. I have even taken elk with the ABLR without issue. The ELD-X comes apart to much for my liking and I have never used it for elk. I stick with monolithic, partitioned, or bonded for all my elk hunting regardless of caliber or case driving it.
Only good for targets, varmints and criminals. I hunt only with barnes ttsx.
I have to disagree with you here based off of my experience I have dropped several mule deer and whitetail deer and have even taken elk with the 142 grain accu bond long range and it has proven to be more than affective.
Barnes ttsx is an excellent bullet, I however get better terminal performance from both the nosler e tip and hornady gmx.
An elk will turn and laugh at you if you shoot it with ELD's, huh. Amazing.