Payday 3 Promises Big Change, but Is It Too Late?
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Operation Medic Bag is the plan in action for Payday 3 to add quality of life and fixes to the game that the players have been asking for. Is it enough to bring people back to the game, can this be the comeback that Payday 3 needs? Or is it already too late? Is Payday 3 already a dead game that is beyond saving?
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What do you guys think, is this the change that's going to bring people back?
All together? Probably. Not sure if these changes being spaced out like the updates we've gotten so far is going to do anything though.
@@girlmeat-beth wait, you're saying you don't think it's worth waiting months for an unready button?
just dont give starbreeze more money. After winds of changes the game has gotten worse and worse with powercrept dlc, leech, and drm. Pd3 being broken at launch and having such a boring and static meta doesnt help at all. Just go with drg or a game you enjoy instead of putting hope into the half sunken ship because it "could" possibly float.
I do think it is very possible that PD3 can come back with just consistent updates, but they cannot space those updates out once every few months like another Halo Infinite. They would probably also need quite a few free dlc sprinkled about to add more heists since they upped the price of dlc heists AND are going to add microtransactions, it isn't uplifting to think about having to pay more for less after the decade of love pd2 got.
@GeneralMcBadass Ah, of course it is! Silly me. Honestly though, it's really funny how the remaining, for a lack of better words, die-hard fans of PD3 are still putting their hope and faith into such a slow and diminishing system. I feel bad for them.
Gotta love how these new features are just things PD2 has had for years.
you mean, features any game has?
@@GeneralMcBadass Yeah that too lol
@@GeneralMcBadass *any Game should have from the get go. Things like a freacking Unready button or Vote kick shouldnt be added trough Updates 6 Months after Launch.
Don't you love it when games decide to make games online only then bleed players then back down on what they said? By adding offline modes?
Better nate than lever
They took four months to announce that they will implement the option to unready in a lobby ☠️
and to rename your loadouts!
*to announce* 😂😂😂😂
Not even implemented 😂
*ahem* We in the AAAA space now call them "legacy features" and you should be thankful! Buy our DLC now???
Revolutionary feature, never seen before in gaming.
@@tanork47 [laughs in the high seas]
I forgot PD3 even existed
and you missed nothing
Painfully, same. It be the RUclips notifs reminding me😭
I just had some Payday RUclipsrs probably paid by Overkill spam how it's the most incredible best thing ever
Unsubbed from most, if they can't even be honest about it they ain't worth watching
@@commisaryarreck3974Who? Most RUclipsrs are honest about the game
I’m trying to forget I pre-ordered the fucking thing
It's hilarious how devs always like to pretend they know better than players what players really want.
And it took them a while to notice that their a few months old game, Payday 3, has 98% less players than their old game, Payday 2.
Yes, 98%.
Arrogance
"we were successful, our boardroom knows better!"
Meanwhile they think giving their playerbase a massive fuck you isn't going to have an effect
It never was the devs who did that. They say in the post that the boardroom was “filibustering” the update that players wanted.
Execs and Shareholders pushing it off to the side thinking it is a waste.
Well, to be fair, gamers are morons. Just listening to the most vocal shit-heels on Reddit is a quick way to tank your game. You have to strike a balance between doing what you want you think is best and what the players want.
Whats funnier is the current combined playerbase of payday 3 is worse than payday 2's worst recorded month on steamcharts
Said month being back in 2013 when the console edditions were still up to date lol
On top of having few players crossplay can't be disabled and consolevplayers can't read the chat, let alone type messages.
You are lowkey playing a coop game alone, sticking around in the lobby after an heist and chatting about life with other players was a weird, yet endearing experience that somehow happened many times to me in Payday 2,and arguably why I played it for so long.
Yes it sounds super weird but it reminded me of 2005 MMOs times.
This announcement in itself says it all: Payday 3 will hardly receive any updates. Especially hardly any free ones. And the fact that things like "Unready button" are specifically mentioned tells me that only a very, very small team is working on the game and there is no experienced developer.
F Payday, F Starbreeze, and *F the greedy gaming CEO’s* .
Greed is going to kill all videogames….
The fact we are likely getting ONE free update heist (iirc it was mentioned on the AMA) alongside the original planned DLCs that were meant to justify the pre-purchase season pass. Then when people asked Almir about if they really wanted to add microtransactions he said some corpo bullshit about 'providing a valuable experience people would enjoy in various ways' which is a non-answer and hints that 'valuable' = 'will charge players for'
It already killed the whole world bud better wake up.. it's the clout phenomenon, aka the billionaire fockturd family phenomenon. We keep sharing data and they keep buying our world and analyzing it further with IA just so things like the failure of pd3 can't happen, also so that you can't spend more than X money on gas, or food, or anything at all, or maybe stop us from even having adquisitive power.. Build your future in yourself cuz there aint no outside world@@HondoHoss77
@@HondoHoss77 We could use another video game crash like in the 80s. It's gotten too big. We need small passionate indie studios again, not these mega shit shoveling corps.
Operation “We fucked up.”
Why's it called Operation Medic Bag if a Medic bag's only useful when you aren't already in custody? Is Overkill stupid?
hahaha
it's just pop into my head, Rainbow Six Siege have operation Health whare they only fix stuff for the entire season
@@silvialuzmia And when it dropped it was the most broken shit known to man.
@@anusaukko6792the hitreg that season was a running joke for years...
@@silvialuzmia It was the worst season for R6 and was seen as an excuse to not release content and memed to oblivion lol.
I didn't buy PD3 after I tested the open Beta and have little hope of improvement.
More importantly, don't call yourself a washed up youtuber.
You are a Payday Legend and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
it's very sad because this franchise has been dying for a while and our only hope was that pd3 was gonna be the next big thing, but imagine how devastating it must be for a youtuber that invested so long in a franchise for their only hope to fizzle out like this
Thank god for gamepass, I have a bad feeling when they said this is online only
If it wasn't for GeneralMcaBadass, I probably wouldn't have played this game as much as I have. ❤
It's a damned shame how Payday 3 has turned out. I have literally hundreds of hours in Payday 2 and was really looking forward to Payday 3. They just didn't release a game that was finished much less worth buying.
Helldivers 2 exists now... It's Joever...
Payday 3 has to exist with every good co-op game that has released in the last decade (including payday 2). While it's not necessarily a competition inherently, the lack of features and QoL the other games have are gonna drive people towards those instead, whichever game it be.
@@Bonelord69That's true, even when gta 5 unveiled its heist. The player count from Payday 2 was still pretty good and consistent. So the player count drop off is primarily on them.
Lethal Company exists now... It's Joever...
helldivers 2 is a bit of a mess rn, game is fun dont get me wrong, when it isnt crashing and you can load in.
Except it's also having major server issues, just like PD3 at launch. Only difference is Helldivers actually feels like a polished product without obvious missing features
The fact that payday 2 feels like a newer game than 3 is crazy
after i modded it, payday 2 looks so much better than pd3 IMO
payday 2 holds up incredibly well today, i still go back and do some heists every so often. still haven't found a game that has such fun stealth mechanics
@@calebmhorvathi play it every fucking day 😂
@@calebmhorvathIt’s the best at what it does, and this weird cash grab sequel isn’t going to unseat it anytime soon.
It’s a sad case of an amazing game being held by one of the worst developers possible, but even the greed of PD2 devs couldn’t ruin the core fun that game had. It was so fun they had to create a shitty sequel to try and steal money from people because no one cared about their 250th PD2 DLC.
Payday 2 is lame as well who wants to fight Brain dead ai in waves.
It's all sad and stuff, but seeing the plan for making "unready button" for some reason just sent me flying with laughter
Honestly this game just seems like another of the long line of Early Access games in disguise that 'bigger' devs have tried to huck out in recent years. Maybe, MAYBE, I'll pick it up in a couple years once it's no longer always-online and they've got a more compelling content pool to dip into. Starbreeze/Overkill as a studio has continuously shown their incompetence with what should be basic development & even PR practices, the fact Payday 2 got as big as it did was a fluke imo and nobody at that studio seems to know why, and that shows with all the projects they've made since then.
Aka, maybe when it's actually friggin' finished I'll be interested.
I very much appreciate your continued coverage of this stuff, even though I know it's moreso out of obligation than your own interest. Hopefully you'll be able to make a proper breakaway from exclusively PD content in the near future, your style and personality are very enjoyable when you're playing something you like.
I agree. If this were any other game/studio, I would never give them my money again. I've done this for a lot of other game studios, like Bungie. You can't just pull off the things they did and expect me to just forget about it. Maybe other people will fall for it, but my money is best spent elsewhere.
And thanks for the kind words. At the core of it, I love making fun videos and have always wanted to do more, but circumstances don't always permit it. The culture of youtube and videos is also just highly toxic and realistically I just don't think I can keep up with it anymore.
To give credit, Bo Anderson was horribly incompetent. StarVR my ass
"Recording Payday 3 footage gives me an aneurysm, so here's a superior game in every way possible - even WITH its buggy release"
Looking forward to that next video talking about the predatory monetization man. I agree with you on the fact that it's too late for Payday 3, even if the devs do something similar to what the No Man's Sky devs did. The game's just got too much of a bad stigma and people are too fed up with the constant disappointments (I'm people).
glad to hear! it's something I've wanted to talk about for a while now, but it's very harsh and I wasn't initially sure if I should do it
The biggest mistake they made was releasing the game.
Absolutely right
@@GeneralMcBadassDo it - the PAYDAY devs have been scummy about money since PAYDAY 2’s earliest DLCs. No one should ever support them again after they - over and over nerfed people’s paid-for DLC weapons to try and get them to buy new DLCs every month. I’ve hated this dev for ten years cause they did that to me.
the fact that one payday 2 heist can take longer than playing throu all heists in payday 3 is mind blowing
They all have a decent degree of waiting. Not sure I would agree about Payday 2 heists being so much longer, but they're obviously better.
I think the sentence on the in-game store is so funny lmao
"we don't want the bad PR it'll get right now, so we'll rather take that next year"
This will undoubtedly be a case of "Too little, too late". The fact that a lot, if not all, of these changes were things we've wanted since Day 1 just proves Overkill didn't actually know why Payday 2 was successful, or what could "improve" the next game. If this brings back some players, I'll be happy, but it likely won't be impactful and they'll likely go back to making DLC for PD2. As a comment said, these were changes PD2 had for YEARS, and only now if PD3 adding them. Maybe having a shit publisher and outsourcing your game wasn't a smart move at all
We wanted some of those day -100, like the offline play, this is just ridiculous.
I serously have never ever seen the benefit of a company doing this. What a joke games have become. People need to start going to prison for making bad fucking games
With their entire history after PD2 in general, I was always skeptical of this game. The Walking Dead game was a huge red flag to how incompetent Overkill had become.
So they're not really adding a offline mode? Amazing. 10/10
It'll bring players back but not for the right reason.
We needed brand new updates, not updates that make stuff how it was in PD2. PD3 should have had that stuff from launch.
So while it's appreciated, I will not be applauding them for fixing stuff they purposely messed up and gamers in general need to stop doing this.
I'm sure the devs or publishers watch enough content on their games to see what the players do or don't like.
I don't even have a new/current gen console yet, but even when i do get it I'm not buying it until a decent sale happens for it.
people have applauded the abysmal state of this game since it came out, they'll applaud it because of this as well. and that's also why the game became the way it is today
@@GeneralMcBadass im honestly just gonna wait like 2 years until the game is in a good state and treat it like no mans sky and all those situations, hoping its decent by then so i can play it with my friends. dont wish downfall on the devs at all just cant support what it is rn
It might as well be a viable tactic nowadays, when you don't want to implement anything relatively new, so you just break what worked for previous game and release it, people start pointing it out therefore focusing on it, and once most focus is shifted enough from lack of new content to gameplay issues and stuff - you fix it like it should've been at the start, but now people think game's great cuz "devs still listen to us yay, now it's playable and therefore so new and good!1!"
we got 2 new free heists a couple months ago
@@thencrranger5628*2 old heists from payday 2. Nothing new
Who knows man. But this does make me think about make me think this: 10 Chambers (for those who don’t know was founded by Ulf Andersson and Simon Viklund) who previously made GTFO are current working on a heist game of their own called Den of Wolves. I’ll have a good chuckle if that game comes out better than Payday 3 did on launch. GTFO is a really good game so I have high hopes for 10 Chambers.
GTFO is also ending its storyline soon and opening the door for a potential GTFO 2.
If it doesn't bring players back is it really a update to fix the game?
if they are putting paid stuff im not going back, is an insult to still putting those dlc behind a paywall when we got an horrible mess
@@Emma_Z1 they obviously going to add free content and paid content back to back like PD2
It is not going to work, the fact they are even looking at releasing paid dlc is fucking bullshit at this stage. This game is fucked
@@thencrranger5628Your shitty game is dead, move on buddy
@@thencrranger5628 Yeah because this game is surely comparable to Payday 2.
I won't even try it till they get rid of the sign in requirement.
the devs and payday supporters will tell you it's because the game needs it for crossplay or for a centralized progression system. meanwhile, I can boot up Helldivers 2 which also has crossplay and doesn't require me to make a new account (I don't even need to link my playstation account)
i guess you should move out of here
@@GeneralMcBadass
Gotta have 50 more launchers and seperate accounts for every game and developer
We've actually regressed to early 2000s internet...Without the fun freedom
@@commisaryarreck3974Only for bad games, good games are still offline and available on Steam
@@GeneralMcBadass helldivers 2 has you sign in you just can’t see it that’s why you get servers full
I stopped playing the game just because I beat all heists.
Did them loud, that felt kinda bad because since armor and health are so limited I had to bunker up and only progress the heist between assaults.
Did them stealth, it's a lot of fun trying to get it right and learning and mastering all steps. But once that is done, it's mostly a game of patience.
Kinda feels like I'm done with the campaign and since I didn't have a lot of fun going loud, there's not many reason to replay heists.
Yeah loud imo is pointless, id rather play cod zombies if i want a horde shooter, and even then pd2 loud was superior bc you could convert swat officers and have them and the ais do the mindless shooting of loud. Pd3 is just so ass and its really upsetting
It’s insanity that basic things that could be implemented in a day are ‘features’.
*things that should be in from launch
its crazy that with the old engine of the games ( pd2 and pd1 ) were feeling way better even better ui
and effects and sounds 😂
ew no.
@@Redmont_ hello, yeah
These new engines suck ass
@@christmaslights9870Diesel 2 was awful. It's just that they suck at using Unreal 4
New engines don’t look or feel good imo, I really don’t like them
Wow quick Play 😮 I wish more games had features like this
If you like PAYDAY: The Heist and PAYDAY 2 I suggest you check out the new upcoming spiritual successor from 10 Chambers Collective called "Den of Wolves". Ulf Anderson who was the designer of PAYDAY 1 and 2 is the co-owner of 10 Chambers Collective with Simon Viklund who worked on the soundtrack for PAYDAY 1 and 2. They left Overkill along with other employees to form 10 Chambers Collective. Their first game GTFO was a success and I have my full faith in Den of Wolves.
Holy they made GTFO? I never realised I will definitely have to give den of wolves a try
I Don't have much hope left not like I had much to begin with
story of my life there
@@GeneralMcBadass glad I’m not alone
THE SUMMER!?
haha, I was afraid that if I emphasized this part too much payday fans would get pissy
It has same vibe as DbD devs saying they plan on *adressing* some certain little aspects of the game which would bring more fun or something (like seeing other's loadouts in lobby) *within next years*
YEARS??
Whoever looked at the lobby system in pd3 went "Yeah that looks good ship it" needs to be fired and never work in video games again. You are bad at your job and a liability to the company that hired you. PD3 feels like it's at the RnD phase and not something that you would actually sell to people. You ever see those dev diaries for older games like L4D, well payday feels like it's at the end of the first year in one of those videos. Where they have a core functional game but still need 3 years to actually put the good stuff in the game and get it out the door. Everyone in the videogame industry is shitting the bed like they have dysentery. Japan still kinda has their shit together(Capcom and Bandai batting a literal 1000) but everyone else is fumbling the ball like a special needs all star team.
I wouldn't count Capcom given the whole adding DRM to old games controversy they brought upon themselves for no real reason.
If it had a solo offline mode i'd try it. Watching you do a solo stealth mission for the server to drop you at the end of the mission made me go Naaah.
"... [was in] development for 5 years" my arse
From the community response team, we thank you so much, for this amazing, straight-to-the-point and extremely digestible video. I and the rest of the Starbreeze community response team are honoured and are grateful for covering the event, May we share this video in payday discord servers to catch everyone up on the Reddit A&A event we completely understand if you would not like us to share the video, but regardless we are always great full for community feedback and I am willing to answer some of the community questions and I will try to give more direct and solid answers that we can confirm that are happening. But remember stay safe, and have fun heisters- May and the Starbreeze community response team
Imagine droping the worst received game of the last 5 years, and having the balls too look at the last 300 players in the eyes and say "we still plan on selling three expansion packs, but because we are so nice you can finally have the ability too un-ready, and i quess we will add that offline mode you wanted for free."
With the progression part, I went back and played Payday the Heist and honestly they did the whole challenges thing there fairly well.
Progression wasn’t locked to challenged but they did help you along. Objectives and heist completions gave XP. I feel like if they did that from the get go in PD3 instead of adding heist completion XP later, it wouldn’t be as poorly received.
Because PD:TH did it right
Amazing what voting with your dollars will do. I totally forgot about this game. They have a lot to do before I even consider wasting my hard-earned money on this product (and that's coming from someone who had spent an embarrassingly amount of time and money on PD2)...
520 hours. I'll buy PD3 when it looks like a proper game. Not when it's promised.
I'm reading all of those "initial focus" and i realized - all of them (aside from comms wheel and iirc quickplay) were present in payday 2. Even stealth modifiers were in Crime Spree.
And all of those will take MONTHS to implement?
Yeah it will be a miracle if player count will surpass initial launch numbers, or even catch up to current PD 2 one.
The Payday gang successfully heisted the soul out of Starbreeze
I sent a list of 37 firearms, 4 melees, 20 firearm accessories, 4 heister cosmetcs (maps and costumes), and a map prop to Starbreeze's email to remedy Payday 3.
I even sent a list of what to utilize as the SWAT turret: the British WWII Humber and Guy Armored Cars retrofitted with RC grenade and machine gun turrets.
o7 doing the good work. if only they would listen
@@ugjibii1155 You can view my list on Payday The Heist Reddit under the name "Weapons, accessories, and cosmetics for Payday 3".
I never knew Payday 3 already came out, I just remember youtubers playing early access of it and go on with my day.
Hey @GeneralMcBadass, i too have been missing some achievements and upon the latest update I was granted them all when I got to the main menu :)
It wont make a difference because ovk being the absolute clowns that they are had and STILL have absolutely no sense of urgency. Games that had rough launches that bounced back did so because the team behind those games went it all hands on deck overdrive mode to fix as much as possible before thier fanbase left for good. Ovk just sat there and hoped things magically would change. Nobody is coming back, there are way too many good games coming out for players to still be waiting for pd3 to get better.
I'm pretty sure most of the studio is working on their next game, which is apparently supposed to release within 2-3 years. They don't have the time or money to seriously focus on PD3. They just made this announcement to keep Embracer happy
The fact that they believe some new game will save them when they somehow butchered Payday 3, an easy slam dunk is incredibly impressive.
If what you said is true, expect them to shut down in the next 3 years.
"They're working hard on Payday 3 give them time!"
"They're working on getting Payday 2 to work again so Payday 3 will launch a bit scuffed guys give them time!"
"Payday 3 will get it's needed updates soon guys give them time!"
"They are working on a new game give them time!"
What is this timeline? Just take the truth pill and accept that both the devs and executives at Starbreeze are incompetent.
@@wzore6480 I don't understand why they didn't have all hands on deck for PD3, I don't think they have had ANY other successful IP's. Wild
That shows how little you know about game dev. Monday and contracts would have had to been pre allocated for PD3 post support. This current support is exactly the same amount we would have gotten if the game had done vastly better. It when that pre all allocated funds start to reach the end dose the decisions to keep funding or move on is made.
They're working on a new game...? Did they not learn ANYTHING from 2019?
It took them 4 Months to say that the most basic things will be added over the span of the next 4 months.
In another 4 months they might promise a new red dot color coming out in another 4 months! 🤩
I didn't pay much attention to PD3 due to time constraints, but suffice to say? I didn't miss out on much it seems, which is disappointing since PD2 is still one of my favorite shooters! I suppose we'll have to let the Devs work out PD3 into a worthwhile state, and since you mentioned it? I think we'll all be patiently enjoying Helldivers 2 till then.
Now hopefully Arrowhead & Sony expand on the servers sooner than later so it can let waaayyy more people enjoy the game we're all trying to dive in together, cause I wanna do my part!!!
Just got done playing the payday 3 game and my internet on my ps is messing up so now I’m watching your vids😂😂❤
On that brief bit on Helldivers 2, I've been having a fun time playing the game in spite of the technical issues they've been having at the moment.
Glad to hear, as I always tell people if you’re not happy with a game or franchise seek others, there’s always new exciting stuff releasing
@@luxxers it's very early so take this with a grain of salt, but the game is having technical and server issues BECAUSE the game is so good. there are too many people playing it because it has good attention to detail, the gameplay loop is satisfying and fun (for now), it has fair monetization, and because it does co-op feature justice
@@GeneralMcBadass It's a pretty sweet story, both Sony and Arrowhead didn't think the game was going to blow up. They set up their servers to hold a maximum amount of 150k players, never thinking they'd actually hit that number. Now they have to keep constantly adding more server space, because every time they do, it keeps getting filled by more players
not too late for me, they change i come back
the fact that payday 3 doesnt have a 4k resolution option is a dead giveaway
I am just gonna say it.
The only people playing the game are the devs and the twitch streamers who got game for free and got paid to play and promote the game! NO ONE ELSE!
after watching several of their streams, I can honestly say they don't care about opinions or their game at this point! Game was supposed to have microtransactions and they cant handle the truth that game was dead within 2 months...because they didn't listen to community, game is 100% dead, they still dont listen to the community!
I had around 50 friends on discord who actively played payday 3 since start we all had around 200-300 hours when we said f it! all of us uninstalled and never looked back!
Devs put nail in coffin when instead of fixing and making game better, they release garbage overpriced dlc and said f u to everyone!
I forgot to add:
Gold edition players were supposed to get 1 year of dlc's for free! Devs said all future dlc's will have price on it and won't be included in the gold or silver edition! They were thinking how much to charge for dlc for people with standard edition and how much for people with gold edition! ... yeah
I often think about how some people can be happy that we're getting these changes by summer while many others game have already had those features since their launch. It feels like PD3 is 20 years behind of every game that has been out there. I personally play it every day maybe 1-2 heists and get immidiately bored cause of lack of content and features. I've had hopes but every week I feel like devs focus on paid aspect more than fixing their game. I appreciate them finally confirming offline mode but damn I just can't think but wonder imagine if we had these features on its launch. PD3 needed at least 1-2 years of development before its release, and it clearly shows it is not a fully baked product. I might say if they keep going with fluent updates and keep up the pace like they had done with Legacy Heists and Syntax Error, this game would be actually pretty good spot by the next year. But will it be too late? Time will show. I do hate sound like a pessimist, but given how the past months have been for PD3, it really wasn't the best and my hopes for its future is really dim. Thanks for coming to my tedtalk
Unless they put in some serious work and accept that for a long time their game is going to be garbage and hardly played then i think its over for starbreeze. I only started playing pd2 years after its release, and while i dont think games should release in this unbaked state i plan on checking back with payday 3 every once in a while to see if anything has changed. Just sucks because this was the only game i was hyped for really. But it sucks even more for them because if they dont drastically improve pd3 theyll be without jobs and i wont care in the slightest. Super funny seeing such a low player count but id ideally like to see 0 just to nail home how abysmal and shitty of a job theyve done.
I'm from Brazil, I love this game but I'm hoping for changes since the price here always reaches above 200 reais, with that price being an online-only game and I already expect almost gigantic DLC's, AT LEAST a part to play alone and trained.
unfortunately you face a problem a lot of countries face, and it's not really specific to Payday 3. funny enough though, Payday 3's prices are bad even in first world country standards
I'd just like to elaborate on the Unreal Engine 5 thing - the end user basically won't notice a difference. It's entirely a marketing ploy. Really all it would do is give the developers more up to date tools as well as things like Nanite which is mostly just a back-end thing. Performance is probably shit due to bad practices behind the scenes, not necessarily the tools they have available.
It's too late now, most people would've gone back to Payday 2 or some other game. There is a fair bit of competition and a lot of alternatives on the market.
I think the devs thought people will just forget about all the issues in a few months and keep playing but that never happened. How surprising!
Would you consider making Helldivers 2 videos?
Helldivers 2 reminds me a lot of classic payday 2.
Lol, just saw the end of the video
Nearly 5 times as many people have seen this video in an hour than what PD3's peak playercount is today. I doubt they'll be saving it with an unready button at this point lol.
Those planned "Features" should have been included on launch day. We simply got an unfinished game, and unfortunately i was expecting so.
I'm so glad I decided to wait for reviews instead of pre ordering this dumpster fire. The fact they're advertising an unready button as a highlight for their plans going forward speaks so many volumes. Still, I'd keep your expectations in check. Lol
Console players can tell you clearly. DONT TRUST OVERKILL UNLESS THEY ACTUALLY DO IT.
You say the channel is dead but that’s just because payday is dead, feel free to make content on other games but make sure to both post that content frequently and most importantly you need a recognizable thumbnail, I have scrolled past videos not knowing you made them because they look generic and that sucks because the other content you do make is good
Maybe it might work, but more heists would be good. Certainly not guaranteed to be the change but it might work
honestly I think that once these QoL features are released and they put the game on a big sale, they could easily see a resurgence of players. Personally I did have a lot of fun playing the game, but I was put off by the technical issues and long wait for any updates
I wanted to have a good payday game to play. I hope maybe it can happen, but I don't have any hope at this point.
honestly play payday the heist, i played all 3 payday games and that one's my favourite. only game out of the trilogy where it feels like you're actually robbing places instead of doing random objectives while gunning down hordes of cops imo
@@martinszymanski2607 I play it from time to time. Payday 2 was better imho, until the balance update, the one with or close to the Jhon wick introduction. If I not mistake it had or was close to the skill changes too. Since that update every step forward was fallowed by 10 steps backwards, and the game is very bad now.
I have payday 2 installed on a previous version too and sometime I play it too, I have a friend who played with me around that time and we play together like the old days of payday 2... A single bulldozer on overkill can ruin a heist if you aren't cautious enough. Today the power creep is so much you can face an infantry of bulldozers alone.
But playing an old game or version of a game is not the same than have the entire community invested on a supported game.
It's a shame.
@@itsasecrettoeverybodyis there a downgrader for pd2 or how did you do that? havent played since the skill tree rework
While I'm glad to finally see PD devs finally address issues plaguing the game...
The infuriating part is the fact that almost all planned fixes and improvements are the things what we've already had in PD2 and how non of those things was available on release including some of the most basic things like text or voice chat or replaying the mission after failure that you expect from any multiplayer game there is on the market.
"look guys operation medic bag!! It's the funny thing from payday 2" the desperation feels real
I really hope you post some Helldivers 2, that game is so incredible and finally fills that coop shooter craving that PD3 couldn't fill with how bad it is
I really had hope for this game but after playing Helldivers 2 and seeing how fast their updates were as well as their competence in communicating with the community. I pass but hey at least they gave us a roadmap on what they are going to plan to change the game for the better
I'm only excited for three things
Offline mode(military, really let's me play wherever)
Unreal 5
Heist feeling(hopefully a safe house)
Holy, that roadmap is filled with essential game stuff, this game is basically early access lol, kinda a shame since i liked PD2 but i think the gunplay doesn't age well. Won't get my hopes up tho.
It shows how much they mishandled PD3 when I was excited to get it but then never actually got it because every single person who did get it was like "eh.....no...."
I haven't played since December, and there's been a lot of games I've been investing my time into, for example I have over 100 hours in Granblue Relink. Thinking about Payday 3 after that it makes me realize just how low quality the game is, but I already have the game purchased (standard thankfully), so I'll play whenever they add meaningful FREE updates and content because might as well make my money's worth.
i cant imagine myself buying this game anytime soon having vote kicking and an unready button by summer is fucking depressing to read 😭😭 what has happened
So happy i got the game pass version instead of buying outright
Now that Helldivers is a thing payday3 might as well not exist at all
I have some hopes for all of this, but at the same time, it's hard to trust what they say.
Man PayDay 3 is the BEST heist game ever! Such an immersive experience, instead of us doing the robbing Overkill robbed us instead! It exceeded my expectations!
PD3 at its core is a mediocre game that doesn't feel good to play, has no charm or unique qualities. Updates WILL NOT fix this, no matter how much push the devs get from the communtity. IMO it leaves you with two options, keep playing PD2 or stop playing this series.
I think the reason why the devs/publishers are so complacent is because Payday 2 continues to do well. they'd only really be working up a sweat if all the Payday 2 players decided to stop playing.
That's a fair point - but wasn't the whole point to begin with to capture the PD2 playerbase with a new, exciting game? This issue we're talking about is not exclusive to Payday. It's happening all across the gaming industry. No originality, poor execution, zero charm. Although PD2 is end of life, I'd argue there is still so much fun to be enjoyed there. I guess you're burnt out though being a creator for it for ten years.@@GeneralMcBadass
Let's just hope they get the ship turned around. It would be great if we could get Payday3 for the next few years, which is modernised and therefore even more fun. There's no point in wishing for the end of PD3. ❤
there's no point wishing for it's end, but there's also no point in waiting when other co-op games do the genre better now, and if you just want a fun shooty game there's hundreds more that do better than what payday 3 offers
@@GeneralMcBadass Helldivers 2 seems to be really good. Meanwhile, PD3 is still adding stuff that it should already have.
It's the saddest lmao ever.
The fact that even OVK's TWD had the features that are "promised" for PD3 in the future is funny.
I was so hyped for PD3. I played PayDay 1 in bits and pieces with my buddies, and then got PayDay 2 on release on PS3 with my friends. It was such a different experience, even with the bugs and absolutely frustrating heists at times. Makes me sad what Overkill/StarBreeze did. This further cements my feelings that I’ll never buy games on launch day in this day and age anymore. I couldn’t even play the first couple weeks I got the dang game on PS5… they fumbled hard, and there isn’t any recovery.
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@@bcav712 Helldivers 2. He mentioned it in the video. 1984 was probably part of the inspiration for H2's satire so your guess is partially right.
I’m glad they’re finally actually promising changes, but really all this proves is the game needed another year in development. I’m also quite disappointed that they’re only promising one free heist and gun for the next entire year, or close to it. Even if they do actually make the DLC pricing more fair, almost no one is going to be willing to pay for more Payday 3 content, assuming they even come back when updates drop at all.
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This game is almost in the exact same situation as cs 2 . The only difference is cs 2 has hundreds thousands of children who are addicted to real money gambling who keep the game afloat.
I believe Starbreeze's money cow is running out of milk, or has turned into powder from all those years of milking it relentlessly, once the cow stops producing the farm will shut down.
Me and my friend were discussing Helldivers 2 launch when I compared it to PD3s horrendous launch.
Payday 3 offered less content at launch then previous entries, stripped back features and terrible bugs and server issues.
They threw around so much cash for press events and ads that they never bothered with extra servers or thoughts of making the game stable.
Now to Helldivers 2 currently getting its 15 secs of fame. Almost the same situation but the key difference is....the game is good once you get in, great even. Its changes up the entire perspective from the first and makes it feel very new. Yes it was published by Sony and that can help but I couldnt help but notice no press events or really any major press coverage other then some cool ads near launch and word of mouth.
I guess it just goes to show you when games have priority on creating a product versus selling just a product.
Just getting rid of the Chores system, aka Challenges for progression will be enough to get some players back. I will jump back in after that's done, but it's gonna take more than just that to keep people playing. It seems like a good start on reviving the game, but the execution of it all will decide it's fate.
I played the game 3 times after being so hyped about it. Someone let me know if it’s even worth coming back to
thank you for this video a glimmer of……just a glimmer u got a sub
Yes, I am completely certain that it's too late for PD3 to make a comeback. We've seen time and time again how these devs have handled their games and the way PD3's been handled basically falls below even that standard.
OverBreeze is just here to cash in on the market of those who have heard PD2 was pretty good at some point in time.
As an Other Video Game enjoyer, Halo Infinite did this recently, too. Game went from nearly dry of content with poor monetization to one of the best modern FPS games on the market. Tons of new maps, insane Forge capabilities and more playlists than I can count with my fingers. PD3 needs that. They need Operation Medic Bag to be this game's Winter Update
I actually like how the gaming community has somewhat “voted with their feet” and moved on from games like PayDay 3. The same way they’ve moved on from generic games like Starfield. The same way the community is wholly rejecting games like Skull & Bones.
What a lot of these “video game” companies don’t seem to understand is that it takes more than having an established business and teams dedicated to churning out your “product” to keep players interested. There’s a reason passion projects like Lethal Company, HellDivers 2, and even to an extent Baldur’s Gate 3 have seen so much love from the community.
If these companies spent less time in boardrooms and meetings discussing player retention or profit margins and focused more on fostering an environment for game passion and creativity then maybe we wouldn’t have so many soulless industry practices like cashing out on DLC’s in games that only have a quarter of the playable features it should have had at launch 🤦♂️
Due to the lack of launch content and missing lessons learned I never got the full title even though I took part in both betas. I can understand moving from diesel to UE4 making the development a bit rougher and I don't want to put all the blame on ovk, since publishers in general push for live services these days, but overkill should have listened to fans more regardless and taken more time with this game. At this point this game needs a second launch to get people back, and QoL isn't enough to repair past damages. A step in the right direction but actions speak louder than words.
I think it's too late personally. Like the game has been hanging on by a thread for these past few months and now they expect us to wait till Summer to get some QOL. I wish I had the same enthusiasm as some other people but I have zero faith which is sad.
Tbh its time to move on... Alot of us have already. I actually feel bad for the devs at this point. Rest in peace payday series.
There's tons of games out there. I hope I'm wrong but most likely yes, a little too late.
I even forgot this game even existed until your video showed up.
Helldivers 2, after they fixed the connection problems, is awesome. Nothing like spreading the good word of Democracy and Freedom with bullets and bombs.
as a console player my 2 biggest issues there are more butt these 2 made me quit the game is 1 how it feels on a controller and 2 the progression if they can fix those ill come back
GeneralMisManagement would be a more appropriate name for payday 3
Imo them still sticking to their plans for dlcs and mtx shows that they dont actually really care that they put out a bad game and have an angry community, they just want to get people to spend more money and are using the requested features as PR boosts
i bought the special gold edition preorder and have only sunk sub 20 hours in the game, and i havent even played the new heist. its just not fun when youve played the main series of heists once. it needs alot of work
Paydays 3 biggest problem is A Payday problem not specifically 3. Its content is very route. The Heist was short lived enough that this was missable, 2 was given a very long grace period to add hundreds of dollars of content to obscure the route, 3 wasn’t given either advtage.
Yes they can add more heist and they will probably be as fun as the heist they have…. But once I’m done with a fun runs I’ve seen pretty much all there is to see from a heist. The content they did make was the most fun I had in 2023 by a massive margin , yes I know the hammers were on full self consultation mode in 2023 but PD3 was still vastly the most fun I had. But the dev and the player base didn’t want a fun 80ish hours then move on to other things. They wanted hundreds upon hundreds of hours over years and years. And neither would more payday 2 dlc or a payday 4 fix this. It a Payday problem not a Payday 3 problem