GeForce RTX 2070 in 2023 - 5 Years Later

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  • @RATechYT
    @RATechYT  Год назад +5

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  • @od1sseas663
    @od1sseas663 Год назад +73

    I can't believe it's been already 5 years....

    • @ShrekDank
      @ShrekDank 11 месяцев назад +5

      this comment man,, ive been watching so much videos about this gpu,and i was thinking at the same time,holy shit its been 5 years, i was 13 when i bought this card now im 18,jesus christ😂

    • @jose2226
      @jose2226 8 месяцев назад

      ​@ShrekDank how'd you have 300$ at age 13 lol?

    • @TorchoTichy
      @TorchoTichy 5 месяцев назад

      "ONE MORE YEARRR!!!!!"

  • @pokepokepoke64
    @pokepokepoke64 Год назад +29

    Just purchased an rtx 2070 for $120, there was a guy selling a hundred of them on eBay because he was a recycler for dell. Good deal imo

    • @johnzuniga3567
      @johnzuniga3567 Год назад +1

      How has it been just picked one up for $100 coming from a 1060 3gb

    • @strawberrysherbet96
      @strawberrysherbet96 11 месяцев назад +1

      What’s his eBay seller name lol I want one too cause all I prefer playing on 1080p and it will be cod mostly

    • @rene.grondzi
      @rene.grondzi 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@johnzuniga3567Its very easy to find a rtx 270 for 100 in lot of countries

  • @Technoane
    @Technoane Год назад +27

    I own a 2070 Super + 1440p Ultrawide and every time I think it is time to upgrade I manage to get the game working beautifully on 60 fps+ :)

    • @gamer5535
      @gamer5535 11 месяцев назад +2

      I have 2070 super it is still decent in 2023 ,most games run 70 to 80 fps at 1440p with Rtx off High settings.Better to wait for 5000 series

    • @christohees9150
      @christohees9150 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@gamer5535yea I'll be keeping my RTX 2080 super I'll wait and see wat happens with the rtx5000 series

    • @Nero_9000
      @Nero_9000 3 месяца назад

      I'm looking to build a Ryzen 5 5600G PC, I'm looking for 2080ti for a reasonable price but if I can find a 2070super at same price as 6600xt or 6650xt
      WHICH should I get then
      Note: I'm a 1080p gamer
      Also I was considering 6700xt as well
      Reason for building a PC is to play upcoming games at 1080p for a few years
      So if I can get decent fps on low price yeah, I'm happy.
      Don't give a shit about ray tracing

  • @Surelockohms
    @Surelockohms Год назад +10

    I love my 2070, play most multi-player games at 1440p 120-164 fps and big AAA games at 70-90 if they aren't optimized for high frames. Usually a mix of high and medium settings and I'll cap framerate to a under average for stability. It's more than I need and upscaling fills in a lot of gaps.

  • @RTX4080SUPERGAMING
    @RTX4080SUPERGAMING Год назад +7

    I mean , if you think that this card has the same raster performance as an rtx 3060 or even better sometimes but it is 8gb instead of 12 and has little worse ray tracing performance , it should never have issues at 1080p.

  • @wxrm
    @wxrm Год назад +17

    Love this card. Bought it back in 2020, and it was such a big upgrade from the GTX 1060 6GB I owned. Sadly, this card is starting to struggle on newer titles (as expected) so an upgrade is needed.

    • @TheMrPandabeast
      @TheMrPandabeast 11 месяцев назад +10

      I just upgraded my 1060 to this 2070 super today 🤣

    • @rvgr420
      @rvgr420 11 месяцев назад +5

      benchmarks on this card say otherwise. Besides 2023 optimization is shit.

    • @aldofer8832
      @aldofer8832 11 месяцев назад

      @@TheMrPandabeast if you play 1080p it's logical, but for 1440p it's time for an upgrade.

    • @TheMrPandabeast
      @TheMrPandabeast 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@aldofer8832 I still play 1080p like a man

    • @olympic-ass-eater
      @olympic-ass-eater 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@TheMrPandabeastupgrade rx 590 8gb to rx 5700xt 5 months ago. $170 upgrade.

  • @MDFGamingVideo
    @MDFGamingVideo Год назад +6

    The last nVidia card I purchased was a MSI 1080 Duke. Was a really good card. Would do 2012 GHz core out of the box, and stayed COOL. Gifted it to a friend when I upgraded because her old PC died. As far as I know, it's still going. Cannot justify the price jumps of the 2000 and 3000 series though. nVidia have lost their collective minds.

    • @mungojerrie86
      @mungojerrie86 Год назад

      Maybe consider AMD? They have some really well priced offerings.

    • @BonusCrook
      @BonusCrook 10 месяцев назад

      3060 12G is a great ampere card on the used market

  • @marufulislam4311
    @marufulislam4311 Год назад +5

    i am using rtx 2060 super which has same performance with i3 12100. very happy with performance.

  • @MrAwesumo
    @MrAwesumo 11 месяцев назад +2

    Call me insane but I been pushing this card at 4K for years now, even with the recent ALAN WAKE II I was averaging 40+ fps with DLSS set to performance and optimised settings. great card but it’s showing it’s legs now tho

  • @EmeraldArchive
    @EmeraldArchive Год назад +1

    I've really been thinking of upgrading my 2070 FE recently but with actually getting back into the knowledge of the building sphere has shown me that my card isn't the problem, it's the i7-7700k I'm still running, got both in 2017 and haven't changed em since, I don't know if I should just keep with it though or actually consider a cpu upgrade, black Friday is making it tempting but to actually upgrade from what i know, I would have to update the mobo to accept new gen cpus, thinking the i5-13600k but I just can't imagine having to basically rebuild my PC and not just completely update it

    • @EmeraldArchive
      @EmeraldArchive Год назад

      The build I got should still theoretically be plenty good for games these days but I'm really starting to feel the age in my CPU

    • @BonusCrook
      @BonusCrook 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@EmeraldArchivethe only way to tell if your CPU bottlenecked in a game is if the GPU is not being used at 100% 7700K should not be giving you issues paired with a 2070.

  • @youandiryan
    @youandiryan 8 месяцев назад +1

    Just bought one yesterday. It's a beast still! Still plays almost every on ultra. Running the RTX 2070 with an i7 7700K they pair together beautifully. I'm not seeing any bottlenecks so far

    • @alexmarginean3156
      @alexmarginean3156 7 месяцев назад +1

      I found one at 200 eur, what u think about that price ? is it worth it to buy

    • @alexmarginean3156
      @alexmarginean3156 7 месяцев назад

      rtx 2070 super gaming x

    • @youandiryan
      @youandiryan 7 месяцев назад

      @@alexmarginean3156 that’s not a bad price. It’s not really good but it’s not really bad. €200 is $290 in Canadian. A quick look at the market here shows that the 2070 super is going for about $290 Canadian or €200 so I think it’s a fair asking price.

    • @Ragssssss
      @Ragssssss 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@alexmarginean3156 I wouldn't pay even a penny more than 150$ as 2070 super is low end card nowadays.

  • @renek.9734
    @renek.9734 Год назад +1

    Ich habe Cyberpunk auf der 2070super durch gespielt. Ging ohne Probleme natürlich kein RT und mit dlss, aber dafür mit min. 50fps meistens so gegen 80. Das war eine gute Karte. Jetzt bin ich auf die 7900xtx umgestiegen und hoffe dass diese auch so so gut altert.

    • @fckinyee
      @fckinyee Год назад

      Danke und dir viel Spaß mit der neuen ✌️

  • @DownForwardPunchRepeat
    @DownForwardPunchRepeat 9 месяцев назад +1

    The 2070 is awesome and I own one in one of my daily drivers, but I would recommend the RX 5700 over it. I would recommend the 2070 over the Super version or the RX 5700 if you are looking for slight better power consumption. I can run a 2070 and a 1600 af on a cheap 500w psu no problems.

  • @Jkramp
    @Jkramp 9 месяцев назад

    Bought mine 5 years ago?! I'm still using the same build. Maybe it's time to refresh, but I also might just enjoy doing rebuilds because I've had 0 problems 😅

  • @mungojerrie86
    @mungojerrie86 Год назад

    Keep the good content rolling, mate!

    • @RATechYT
      @RATechYT  Год назад +1

      Thank you, Pavel! Good to see you around.

  • @jeffreybouman2110
    @jeffreybouman2110 Год назад +1

    Looking at your HWInfo64 data your card needs a cleaning and paste refresh haha I have the same card and mine doesn’t have a GPU temp / hot spot temp difference of 29 degrees, mine has 12 😅 and my clocks are higher as well
    Do a repaste, under volt to 925-950 mv and the card will probably have better 1% lows

    • @RATechYT
      @RATechYT  Год назад

      I recently sold the card. I agree that repasting would most likely help lowering the temps and balancing their difference a bit, though performance wise I doubt there'd be much of a change since it performed about the same in my previous videos that I uploaded in winter with a 10°C lower room temp. The clock speeds are about right (the highest clock speed was about 1935 MHz in winter), temperatures are also at least 5-10° lower when playing games and the hotspot temp can reach 110-120° before throttling, so if anything, we'd probably see a 1-2 FPS boost at best.

    • @jeffreybouman2110
      @jeffreybouman2110 Год назад

      @RATechYT would have been a nice test what the difference would have been ;) my card starts the boost (factory settings only undervolt) 2080Mhz and goes down to 1980 on its lowest @65 degrees Celsius and 77 degrees Hotspot
      I forgot to see in my previous reply : great video and thanks for the content ;)

  • @SeaTurtleToes
    @SeaTurtleToes Год назад +1

    I've got a 2070s right now but I'm split between a 4070 and rx 7800 xt this upcoming black Friday, while the card is good I mainly play cod which doesn't really hold up to well even with low settings. Still kinda unsure on what path to take.

    • @johnzuniga3567
      @johnzuniga3567 Год назад

      I just bought a 2070 today for the new mw3 coming from a 1060 3gb I hope i didn’t waste my money

    • @aldofer8832
      @aldofer8832 11 месяцев назад

      @@johnzuniga3567 in 1080p low you will be fine? but it's teh beginning of the end for 1440p.

    • @aldofer8832
      @aldofer8832 11 месяцев назад

      black friday is the only time to upgrade, i redid my computer to have a better processor (i cheap out on it 5 year ago) but really if teh gpu price drops well you should by one new, you can always sell it later if you want the 5000 series.

    • @BonusCrook
      @BonusCrook 10 месяцев назад

      4070 has better features like ai upscaling for youtube and dlss, 7800 XT has a little more vram.
      Personally id wait for 50 series then buy a 4080 when the price drops to match the new cards.

    • @Ragssssss
      @Ragssssss 6 месяцев назад

      Both are solid cards, ask yourself whether you think nvidia's bells & whistles are worth it over AMDs slightly better rasterization + extra vram.
      Personally, I have never looked at AMD cause their upscaling needs lot more refining and FSR FG is disastrous to say the least. Also, I am RT guy, so I turn it on in the games that actually make difference, best example would be cp2077 & worst example being hogwarts legacy where RT looks fake.

  • @christopherfoster1531
    @christopherfoster1531 Год назад +1

    I just bought a radeon vii and rtx 2080 non ti. I collect cards and that was the reason for the radeon vii. Even though in modern games the 16gb of hbm2 would still allow 1080p max settings and the 8gb the rtx 2080 has wouldn't but I want to try dlss on cyberpunk 2077. I will say the radeon vii is kinda hard to find newer content on as far as gaming goes. It's good that the 2070 does this good still in modern title's since I got the card up from it.

    • @AustnTok
      @AustnTok Год назад

      what cards have you collected so far? I also collect GPU's. It's cool when I find someone else that collects GPU's since there aren't that many GPU collectors out there.

    • @christopherfoster1531
      @christopherfoster1531 Год назад

      @@AustnTok I have the two mentioned above, The radeon vii and rtx 2080 but I also have the gtx 570, R9 fury x, Titan x maxwell, Rx 480 8gb red devil edition, hd 7950, and the gtx 980 ti. Not the biggest or best collection but it's not bad considering I just started my collection a few years ago. I used to just sell my old card after buying the new one. I will be buying a vega 64 and 1080 ti to add back to my collection since I sold the original ones I had around 3 years ago. I will say it is nice to talk to people who actually collect gpu's like I do. Most people I know don't, They do what I used to do which is selling the old card after the new one comes in.

    • @christohees9150
      @christohees9150 11 месяцев назад +1

      I have the RTX 2080 super and I'm still gaming at 1440p high settings no problems

  • @saheruthepharaoh
    @saheruthepharaoh 8 месяцев назад +1

    Console gamer here who got one of these as a budget buy for building my first PC - I’m laughing because you say “it dips down to 80-90 and it’s very noticeable” and I’m like wtf hahaha most of the games I play on console are like 45-60 MAX haha.
    So looks like it’ll be an upgrade for me regardless

    • @RATechYT
      @RATechYT  8 месяцев назад

      The increase in input lag and drop in smoothness is indeed noticeable once the frame rate suddenly drops from 120 to 80 FPS. I didn't say very, obviously I don't mean that you can't play at that frame rate, it's just noticeable.

    • @Idgaf_leave
      @Idgaf_leave 7 месяцев назад

      I’ve been getting 30 fps with it 😢

  • @na_cz2380
    @na_cz2380 Год назад

    Great content 🫡 .keep going❤. I’m curious about the rtx 2070 super and the rx5700xt in my country they have the same price about 180-200
    (I’m open for suggestion’s)

  • @tomshen0y0
    @tomshen0y0 11 месяцев назад +1

    I also have an RTX 2070 with i7 8700k(oc5ghz) and I play every game without problems , I want to ask should I buy 3060 or 4060? ?

    • @RATechYT
      @RATechYT  11 месяцев назад +1

      I'd go for the 4060 since Nvidia locked some features like frame generation for anything below 4000 series cards.

    • @tomshen0y0
      @tomshen0y0 11 месяцев назад

      thx man ☺@@RATechYT

    • @BonusCrook
      @BonusCrook 10 месяцев назад

      ​​@@RATechYTnot a great recommendation seeing as its not an upgrade over the 2070.
      If he wants something better than a 2070 he should save for 6800XT or 4070

    • @RATechYT
      @RATechYT  10 месяцев назад

      @@BonusCrook They asked if they should get one or the other, not for a GPU recommendation.

    • @BonusCrook
      @BonusCrook 10 месяцев назад

      @@RATechYT oh well tell them those are both bad cards and that they should wait for prices on a 4070 or 3060 to drop after new cards come out

  • @FreezeOW
    @FreezeOW 4 месяца назад

    fun fact i bought mine in late 2020 not knowing anything about pc’s and it runs fine all this time later

  • @xaxaxaxaxaxax
    @xaxaxaxaxaxax Год назад +1

    idk how u take on high in cyberpunk 2077 70+ fps, i have 40 on high with i7 9700k(5ghz) and rtx 2070 HOOOOOOOOOOOOWWW

    • @RATechYT
      @RATechYT  Год назад

      I do get drops down to 40 FPS in certain areas as well. The R5 5600 is also slightly better than the 9700K @5GHz, which does help in CPU intensive areas.

  • @antondovydaitis2261
    @antondovydaitis2261 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you.
    I am interested in the RTX 2080, as there are some available to me.

  • @BurinKrainet
    @BurinKrainet Год назад

    as 1070 oc user i still think if u want to upgrade ur gpu 3070 or 6700 XT are the best option if u count performance + budget

    • @Hymn_
      @Hymn_ 7 месяцев назад

      i think 3060 12 gb (especially if you can found the 3 fan version) is more worth it than 3070

  • @darrenm4417
    @darrenm4417 Год назад

    Planning to buy this to pair w/ryzen 5 5500. Or 2060 super.

  • @unkind78
    @unkind78 Год назад

    Some of those input voltages shown in hwinfo64 seem to be too low.

    • @RATechYT
      @RATechYT  Год назад

      Those are factory settings, nothing was tweaked.

  • @adieldonnponceja5680
    @adieldonnponceja5680 Год назад

    Hi good morning can tgis specs be worth it in 2023 for 600 usd buying it as used thanks
    1) CPU) Intel core i7 10700 2.9 GHZ
    2) Motherboard MSI MAG B460M Mortar
    3) 32 GB RAM G-Skill RGB DDR4-3200 4) Graphics Card MSI Nvidia Geforce RTX 2070 Super
    5) Harddesk 2xCrucial P2 1TB NVME M.2 SSD
    6) Harddesk Crucial MX500 250GB SSD SATA
    7) Cooling System Deepcool Gamer Storm 2 in 1
    8) Power Supply 650 Watt Power Supply

    • @RATechYT
      @RATechYT  Год назад

      That's actually a solid system and a very good deal. Just make sure everything works.

  • @JamesSmith-sw3nk
    @JamesSmith-sw3nk Год назад +7

    The rtx 2070 at $200 is still a great 1080p card. Good video.

    • @zalankhan5743
      @zalankhan5743 Год назад +1

      I got a 2070 Super for 150 euros, Pretty Excellent Deal

    • @zushikatetomotoshift1575
      @zushikatetomotoshift1575 Год назад

      I think the supers are the better ones to go for tbh.

    • @zalankhan5743
      @zalankhan5743 Год назад

      @@zushikatetomotoshift1575 and Another Thing there isnt Much Difference Between 2060 Super and 2070, Same as 2070 Super, 2080 and 2080 Super.

    • @zushikatetomotoshift1575
      @zushikatetomotoshift1575 Год назад

      @@zalankhan5743 I had both 2080 and 2080 super so you partly wrong about 2080 and 2080 super. Since I didn't own 2060, 2070. 2060 super. 2070 super I can't confirm if those are different but I did have 2080 and 2080 super and yes there was a difference if it had more vram it would have been closer to 2080ti performance but since it had 8gb but ps I don't recommend doing this but you can add more vram to the 2080 super but I will not speak about that cause not for the fate of heart.

    • @pricelessppp
      @pricelessppp 7 месяцев назад

      And a good single monitor use card also!

  • @jacobmalone5296
    @jacobmalone5296 7 месяцев назад +1

    lmao i didn't know 80fps was bad in 2023/2024

    • @RATechYT
      @RATechYT  7 месяцев назад

      It's not bad, just noticeable when it drops from 120 to 80 FPS in competitive titles.

    • @Nero_9000
      @Nero_9000 3 месяца назад

      ​@@RATechYTI'm looking to build a Ryzen 5 5600G PC, I'm looking for 2080ti for a reasonable price but if I can find a 2070super at same price as 6600xt or 6650xt
      WHICH should I get then
      Note: I'm a 1080p gamer
      Also I was considering 6700xt as well
      Reason for building a PC is to play upcoming games at 1080p for a few years
      So if I can get decent fps on low price yeah, I'm happy.
      Don't give a shit about ray tracing

  • @syr96311
    @syr96311 8 месяцев назад

    I bought it in 2021 and it still work well in 1440p

  • @markbenelli7569
    @markbenelli7569 10 месяцев назад

    WTF!? 80 FPS is low!??? At some games I'm happy if I can reach 50 FPS. And btw. I have the RTX 2070 Super, an i9-9900k and 32 GB but only an old ASUS HD monitor with 60 Hz. But I'm planning to buy a 2K Monitor now. My fear is, it will slow me down more...

    • @RATechYT
      @RATechYT  10 месяцев назад

      Not that it's low, the difference between 80 and 100 FPS in competitive titles is just noticeable, even on a low refresh rate monitor.

  • @hueman69420
    @hueman69420 Год назад

    There is no way its been 5 years dammn

  • @PChel_009
    @PChel_009 Год назад

    Классный видос удачи в Ютубе)

  • @ecchichanf
    @ecchichanf Год назад

    >3:20
    Nice shoot :3

  • @daesz
    @daesz Год назад

    damn, i just sold this gpu today, what a coincidence xd

  • @BaneTrivic
    @BaneTrivic Год назад

    Of course yes 8gb is enough a lot new games comes with bad optimisation

  • @evilqtip7098
    @evilqtip7098 Год назад

    I LIKED THE RTX 2060 S THIS MUST BE BETTER

    • @RATechYT
      @RATechYT  Год назад

      The 2070 actually performs similarly to the 2060 Super.

  • @zushikatetomotoshift1575
    @zushikatetomotoshift1575 Год назад

    Odd the 2080 super has gddr6 and the 2070 has gddr5?

  • @kdub6898
    @kdub6898 Год назад

    I still have my 2070

  • @siyzerix
    @siyzerix 10 месяцев назад

    Compared to the 1070, which over doubled the 970's vram and was a massive 50% faster, the, at best, 30% faster 2070 with zero vram increase and almost $200 price hike was rightly ridiculed. The 2060 also performed close to it and costed nearly half as much. The 5700xt sealed its fate and the 2060 super all but proved the 2070 was a 2060ti from the very start. This is the real reason why this card was and still is poorly received. Poorly priced, named and valued.

    • @BonusCrook
      @BonusCrook 10 месяцев назад

      These days tho its a great 3060/6600 XT alternative

    • @siyzerix
      @siyzerix 10 месяцев назад

      @@BonusCrook 6600xt is slightly faster than the 2070, 3060 is just as fast, but has more vram. Unless its significantly cheaper, its not worth it. Especially the rx6600 nipping at its heels.

    • @BonusCrook
      @BonusCrook 10 месяцев назад

      @@siyzerix what is the logic there????
      2070 has dlss and RTX VSR and all that so should be chosen over the 6600 XT usually if both cards sell at similar costs 2nd hand.
      3060 i agree is probably the best option on ebay for like $200

    • @siyzerix
      @siyzerix 10 месяцев назад

      @@BonusCrook If you're after raster performance, it is the weaker card, no? And isn't it more expensive than the 6600xt normally, even on second hand market?

    • @BonusCrook
      @BonusCrook 10 месяцев назад

      @@siyzerix 2070 goes for around $10 cheaper and as you mentioned is only a little slower. Definitely worth it over a 6600 XT then for the DLSS and other RTX features

  • @SolarErazer
    @SolarErazer Год назад

    My 3070 Laptop is same as the 2070

  • @Vantud391
    @Vantud391 Год назад +1

    Broke ass me still run with gt-740😅😢😂

    • @tnbn55
      @tnbn55 Год назад

      Jesus!

    • @markbenelli7569
      @markbenelli7569 10 месяцев назад

      That's enough for Tetris, right? 🤔

    • @a-animal1206
      @a-animal1206 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@markbenelli7569nah he will get 100fps on cyberpunk with that bad boy

  • @lokirage5222
    @lokirage5222 6 месяцев назад

    5700XT is only better than 3060, 2070 super is way better

    • @RATechYT
      @RATechYT  6 месяцев назад

      I wouldn't say that the 2070 Super is *way better* since performance wise they're mostly identical with the 3060. The 5700 XT is better than the regular 2070 by a noticeable margin in titles such as Apex Legends, Forza Horizon 5, Dying Light 2, Warzone 2, Battlefield 2042 and many more, so it is safe to say that it the 2070 Super model would either fall right behind or match the 5700 XT in those titles. It is worth mentioning that there are games where the 2070 Super holds an advantage as well over the 5700 XT, like Cyberpunk 2077, Far Cry 6, Spider Man Remastered etc, meaning we can't conclude that one is better than the other.

  • @tuluksvui747
    @tuluksvui747 11 месяцев назад

    Cheers

  • @sirfairplay9153
    @sirfairplay9153 Год назад

    X5670?....Pleeeez

    • @RATechYT
      @RATechYT  Год назад

      Haven't had the chance to test it just yet, but I will be revisiting it in the future.

  • @PChel_009
    @PChel_009 Год назад

    Годный Контент

  • @wowitsshit9734
    @wowitsshit9734 Год назад +1

    bro i am still using a geforce 4 ti

    • @MegaUnwetter
      @MegaUnwetter 11 месяцев назад

      do you play games?

    • @wowitsshit9734
      @wowitsshit9734 11 месяцев назад

      @@MegaUnwetter yeah lil bit

    • @MegaUnwetter
      @MegaUnwetter 11 месяцев назад

      @@wowitsshit9734 Which games run with it?

    • @wowitsshit9734
      @wowitsshit9734 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@MegaUnwetter from dos games, to quake to gta san andreas

    • @MegaUnwetter
      @MegaUnwetter 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@wowitsshit9734 Sounds cool. i Love quake and yes its running even on very old Hardware. And i also play still some dos games.