I love you so much my friend. You ask why? There are many reasons. First of all, you are an incredibly positive person, it is very enjoyable to watch and listen to you, and you convey something new in each of your videos and you give new ideas to many people about information. Today, Sunday morning ( Latvia, 10.05) I have my coffee and will watch you with pleasure. Cheers, Duade 👍
Hi Duade, Event if I’m not a Canon guy I follow you because you’re really honest with your comments and feedback. On this video I really appreciated the way you display the Raw and the edited version. The way you shoot birds in their environnement (and not necessary the closest as possible) is very inspiring 👌
Never shot with Canon but he's one of the few I'm getting notifications when posting a new video 🤠. Photographic laws are the same no matter the brand 🤷♂️
This channel is also not that dedicated about gear and more about wildlife in practice which i enjoy so much more, unlike the spec sheet readers, so called "reviewers".
"Don't take my word for it." On the contrary, yours is the most reliable word on the subjects you cover. Really appreciate the real world testing and assessments. Thank you, Duade. I would be curious how the R6II performs with some of your older Canon glass.
Just found of what you convey as a photographer. The Duade's birdphoto style is just perfect. Peaceful, ethical and positive. So enjoyable, here from France. Looking forward to watching the next one! Cheers
Thank you Duade for your Video. I ended up getting the R6 Mark 2 on Thurday after watching all your videos for the last year and a half. I have the Sigma 150-600 and have used in the back yard shooting Rabits and Chipmunk. I have not had the eye tracking on yet but the single point auto focus is quick and snappy. For me this camera is a major upgrade coming from the Canon 6D mark 1 and 80D. Lol I will let you know what I find when try some wild life Photagraphy other than the back yard. Thanks again yo do great work.
Hi Duade. Another great video, thank you very much. The sooner Canon open up the RF lens mount to the Sigma and Tamrons of this world the better. Sony and now Nikon have opened up their lens mounts and if Canon don't do the same before too long they are going to start losing customers. If they did open up the RF mount it may even be possible for Sigma etc to do some sort of firmware update to their EF mount lenses to overcome the autofocus problems. We can only hope. Some brilliant images in the video even with the frustrating autofocus. Thanks again. John
Great video Duade. My wife Lauretta had the Sigma 150-600 Sport on her R5 and had a lot of issues with it. She still has the lens but never uses it. She lost 100mm when she switched to the Canon 100-500 but it handles the autofocus so much better and the photos are sharper. And FYI.. I have seen antechinus at the Duck Pond on several occasions. 👍
I have been using the R6II with this lens for a week or so now. Overall I feel it does slightly better than the R7 but still not ideal. My pulsing was not as bad as you what you experienced. I was using all standard af setting and the factory firmware on the lens. When it does hit, the images are great like you mentioned. For me this combo is liveable for now until someone comes out with a decent 600m RF lens in the 1000$-2000$ range.
Thanks for sharing Spence, yes the results from the kit are fantastic which makes it frustrating, if the AF worked like the RF lenses it would be an instant buy for many. Cheers, Duade
Hello Duade. I am always impressed of your work. The area is looking amazing. Perfect for wonderfull wildlife shots. Hope you enjoyed the trip. Greetings from germany. Stefan
Hello Duade, you are enjoying taking pictures in the wilderness and we are happy to share these moments with you... Your feedback is always interesting specially when we have to choose a new camera! Thanks for all your videos ! Greetings from France !
I don’t have the mkii but that lens does exactly the same on my R6. I’m a absolute beginner so thought I was doing something wrong so am relieved to see this. Thank you. Most frustrating part is it changes focus as you take a picture also. Thank you again
G'day Duade ! Thanks for sharing this experience mate. You share the passion and what makes birding so enjoyable, but you're just as open about some frustrations along the way. Not many are as honest as you ! From this session, I like the last kingfisher best !
Nice video. In agree that the AF is sending. LOT of info fast and sending tons of input changes to the motors of the lens and the 3rd party just doesn't know what to do with it. I've been amazed in testing the ability of the R6MKII tagging super small birds in flight. Wish it had more MP :( Oh and your "low light" looks like my good light lol
Another great video! I'm wondering if the 150-600mm lens has had firmware updates applied? I had one I used with my 70D and it worked great. When I got the EOS-R, the same lense was great. When I got the R5, it started hunting for focus more. I updated the lens firmware and it got better.......not perfect, but much better. Might be something to ask your friend if it's been updated. Maybe make another video after the update if it hasn't. Just a thought.
Morning Duade, thanks for another cracking video. The Kingfishers probably my favourite bird and the photo of the Kingfisher leaving the perch was great. I have a Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 which I married up to Canon Eos R and I found it worked flawlessly, although admittedly, there was was no eye AF requirement to worry about. I recently bit the bullet and treated myself to an R5 and spent a morning at the Yindyamarra Sculpture Walk in Albury, getting to know it. I like it a lot and I think it's a good match for my RF100-500mm lens. Anyway Duade, keep up the good work. All the best and Merry Christmas.
Great to hear Brian, the R5 100-500 is a great combo, there must be plenty of water up your way at the moment. Feel free to send me an email with your details and we might have to catch up one day whilst I am up your way. Cheers, Duade duade.paton@gmail.com
As I had mentioned in your last video, I got a new R6 MKII. I have a TamronG2 150-600. It also pulses quite a lot while focusing on the eye. It may be due to my own lack of familiarity with the focusing system. I am going to a bird sanctuary next weekend. Will try to get some raptors there will let you know.
I had that lens. I had similar AF issues on the original R6 and R5. In addition, the lens VR paired with the bodies' IBIS was unacceptably jerky, especially for video. I eventually got the Canon RF 100-500 and sold the Tamron. I miss the extra reach, but nothing else.
Hi Duade, I've seen some users mention that the Sigma 60-600 doesn't exhibit as bad of focus issues as the 150-600. If you ever have the ability to try that combo it might be worth your while.
Was thinking about the Sigma 60-600mm myself, but after seeing this video I am concerned about purchasing one for my R6. Always excellent contend Duade!
Congratulatons Duade !!! Even though I bought the Canon RF 100-500 I couldn't bear the thought of getting rid of my Sigma 150-600C. When I saw the title of your video, for a few minutes I was thinking maybe I could sell the 100-500 and get a R6ii instead, but that pulsing looks far worse than anything I get with my original R6. Maybe it's time to move the Sigma on 😞. The Canon R6 with the RF100-500, works well for me, and even survived a dunk in the river a few weeks ago after an encounter with a bull.
Duade, Congrats on another great video. It really helps to have someone demonstrate this "pulsing" issue on the Sigma 150-600. I have had the Sigma-600 mm lens now for over 2 years. It is a good lens, but some days it just doesn't seem to want to grab focus. I have had the issue with using it on a Canon 6D. A very subtle issue but it grows to aggravation when it does not want to play nice at that key shooting moment. I basically learned ....it seemed to help... to turn the camera off ... and then back on - almost like a reset. I just purchased the Canon R5 just over 2 weeks ago (thanks for all the great videos on that camera, by the way) I cannot say the autofocus is worse on the R5, .... but it is definitely still there. I have learned to shoot manually a lot more in the last year or so. But the eye detection on the Canon R5 is one of the reasons I purchased it. I will say the pictures are amazing on this camera with the Sigma 150-600 so far. Such fantastic detail on birds. But I might upgrade the lens sometime to the (RF100-500mm F4.5-7.1 L ) and just have the 150-600 as backup on the older Canon 6D. I did buy the Sigma used and wonder if my years and previous use have anything to do with the "autofocus" issue, but you have shown and others have attested to the issue. Thanks again.
Thanks for sharing Bruce, I don't think we are alone and it does appear to vary from lens to lens. Have fun with the R5, a fantastic camera. Cheers, Duade
Hello. I also have the sigma 150-600C and the 6D. I have exactly the same problem that you mention. My next camera (hopefully) will be the R6ii. In my case the sigma was new! I don't know if from one moment to another I started with that problem or it's just that I noticed it.
@@fedegregor Yeah I upgraded to EOS R5 - I wanted a better camera after 3 years with the 6D, but I use the EOS R5 with the Sigma 150-600 and I still have the issue. It is annoying and it happened to me this weekend. When it happens it tends to do it when I have used the camera/lens shooting for a while - over an hour at least - and then it just cannot lock-in and "pulses". My solution still is to turn the camera off and it seems to reset and come back and not "pulse" for quite a while. But it is annoying. I want to upgrade to the fantastic RF 100-500mm f/4.5-7.1 L. but it is not a cheap lens so need to save $$$. I would keep the 6D and Sigma 150-600 as a kind of backup, plus a kind of sentimental reason as it got me into bird photography. Maybe keep it in the car truck for when I see something out of the blue and want to take its picture. I will say since I bought my lens used - I just looked it up 843.00 on November 30, 2020, and it has served me well, I dropped it once and broke the lens hood and replaced that. The pulsing annoys me at times. But it takes some very good photos with Canon R5.
Another great video. Those backlit landscape shots were beautiful. We all hope Sigma and other 3rd party manufacturers would somehow get an agreement from Canon for producing RF mount lens, especially, the 150-600 and other telephoto lens.
@@Duade I also hope but fear that if the sigma 150-600 comes in a RF version, it will be priced similarly to the canon rf 100-500mm f4.5-7.1l with usm. At the same time, I would like to ask your opinion on whether the sigma C would also work perfectly on the RP body, let's say when shooting an object or for single-point measurement of animals such as deer and the like, or is this refocusing only noticeable when choosing auto observation with the eye of animals
Love the Cockatoo shots! I really love my Sigma 150-600 maybe they will be able to address this issue with firmware. I do see this issue in my R7 but not as bad as in this video. Cheers and thanks for another great video.
Thanks, yes, I did not have it as bad on the R7 either which is interesting, the R62 was by far the worst I have experienced which is a shame. Cheers, Duade
Another great review. I have the R6 (not the R6ll) and enjoy the combination of that camera and Sigma 150-600 Contemporary lens. I don’t have too many focus hunting issues using dual back button focus method.
Duade. First off, I love the channel and look forward to all your videos. May I make a suggestion for future content? I’d like to see more training type video on settings and exposure in the field. Tips on getting the most from the gear that you can. Handling low light, where you compromise. That’s a big one for me. I love to shoot in the morning, but the RF 100-500 does struggle at 7.1. With the R5. What conditions you are looking for to create certain images. I don’t carry a tripod. Sometimes a monopod. Mostly walks in parks and woods. I’ve been shooting for 2 years. Weekend warrior for now due to work, and have been learning so much. I love that you highlight the gear, and what is possible. I know I need to grow my skills, and experience. So maybe more learning videos? Again thank you for all your hard work.
Even though I bought the Canon RF 100-500 I couldn't bear the thought of getting rid of my Sigma 150-600C. When I saw the title of your video, for a few minutes I was thinking maybe I could sell the 100-500 and get a R6ii instead, but that pulsing looks far worse than anything I get with my original R6. Maybe it's time to move the Sigma on 😞. The Canon R6 with the RF100-500, works well for me, and even survived a dunk in the river a few weeks ago after an encounter with a bull.
Thanks Duade for the amazing video, i am using R5 and learning to do bird or wildlife photography. I have RF 100-400 but is not long enough for the reach. The RF 100-500 is too expensive for me and i am looking for this sigma lens but realised the AF issue which required tweaking the settings (from your previous video) to improve the AF stability, not sure if I should get it or not. Anyway, I live in Sydney and Centennial Park is a great place to start I reckon, I am inspired by you and your amazing video. Hope I can learn more from you. Love your work and keep it up. Stay healthy and safe.
If you could afford a 4000$ body, you better also invest in good glass. The RF 100-400 is close to a shame on a R5. If the 100-400 is really too short, why not getting a RF 800 F11 in addition or just go for the expensive 100-500, thats the best fit for the R5 as much it hurts financially? I enjoyed the RF 800 a lot on full frame, not so much anymore on APS-C (R7, too much reach with 1280mm...) But the RF 800 is also another "low quality/budget" lens, i dont see much sense in getting a high end body and then use the lower end lenses on it. And even im doing this mistake, R7 is a higher end APS-C camera and i use more or less glass worth between 50 and 900$ (more towards the lower end^^) In your situation i would rather hope for a R7 Mk2 or so as 2nd/wildlife/video body, i began wildlife also with full frame and wildlife was the reason to switch back/downgrade from entry level FF to higher end APS-C again. At first i kept the FF camera, then i realized a backup is nice but i dont really need it, as well i didnt had much practical use for the entry level FF camera anymore but much more for the more modern APS-C.
I own the Sigma 150-600mm 1:5-6.3 DG OS HSM C as well as the Canon EOS 90D and the EOS R7. In the meantime, I have found that the 90D works much better with the Sigma 150-600 than the R7, since the AF pumps less and the images are almost always sharp. Also, the IS seems to work better with the 90D because the image shakes less. So I guess I'll have to keep the 90D.
Nice video, and gret shots! I like the kingfisher most. I hope Canon allowes third-party lenses for RF soon! I wan't to go out so much, in my region of Germany is nice snow, I have a feeder in my yard and the birds are there, but i'm sick! You made my day with this video, thank you!
Thanks for this video, Duade. Have you ever tried the Sigma 150-600 sports on mirrorless bodies? I am curious because there are a few decent deals on used sports lenses.
Another great video. Used this lens all day today on my R7. It worked well for distance stuff but I did experience the same pulsing at a shorted distance on a subject, probably my fault as the bird was probably 6 meters away. I prefer the 70-200L IS II for shorter range stuff or the RF 100-400. I'm still going to get the R6 II. Happy birding!
The photos you managed to get in focus are sharp and beautiful. I bought the Sirui AR3204 about a month ago and I can't believe how sturdy it is, compared to my Leofoto tripod.
Thx Duade for your video! Love you style. You are confirming my decision to turn my back on Canon and changing to a different system for mirrorless. I still got my 90d, but when testing the R7 with my EF glass I was very disappointed with the performance (speed and reliability). And when buying new, I wanted something more compact (and less expensive) than what Canon has to offer at the moment on the RF Mount. I guess the newer the camera or the software, the less it will match with the older lenses. And, I have to say it again… love your style🙂
Thank you Duade for sharing! Very interesting ! We all have our little tricks to improve the use of the Sigma 150-600! For my 90D I admit that after 1 year it's day and night! I'm really happy with it! of course everything is not perfect but it's so sharp ! I sent it with my 90D to Sigma France to calibrate it directly with their internal process! What I really like about this lens is the image quality and the beauty of the Bokeh for an excellent quality/price ratio. I hope that Canon will finally allow other manufacturers in 2023 to offer RF mount solutions!
Such a helpful video. I was researching the Sigma 600 lens with Canon R6MII and found your video. Such a fantastic job and examples. I will now be following you to learn more. Excellent work and appreciate you sharing your findings.
Many thanks Duade! Your videos are brilliant; definitely keep up the awesome work you do. I have to say I'm pretty disappointed that the Eye AF issues seem to be worse on the R6 Mark II when compared to the R6 Mark I. I hope they fix it with a firmware update in future. I think I'll be sticking with my 6D Mark II and 7D Mark II for now. The only real draw to mirrorless (for me) are these 'helpful' features like Eye AF with all of my lenses (Canon and third-party). Personally speaking it's in Canon's interests to support third-party lenses, otherwise if I have to replace my third-party lenses with Canon equivalents when moving to mirrorless, I'm jumping ship to another brand. If the local camera shop will let me try a Canon R6 Mark II with my Tamron 150-600mm G2 I'll chime back in!
I have used the Sigma 150 - 600 since it came out and LOVE IT!! The reason I have not and probably will not switch to Canon Mirrorless are the issues with the combination. I have gone to buy the R7, R6 & R5 but non have worked right with the Sigma. Just heard that Sigma states that "The 150 - 600 will not work reliably with the Canon mirrorless system and at this time we do not have a replacement 150 - 600 for the mirrorless in the works" I hope this changes but the 5D mkIV's will not be going anyplace for a while.
Wow… the photos are amazing, Duade! As usual! One question, do you use back button focus or shutter button? If you want to keep tracking with back button, do you need to be constantly holding it or once it locked it was supposed to keep track?
Thanks again Duade for the great practical info and photos. I have the sigma 150-600c and have used it on three cameras now. The Canon SL3 (crop DSLR), RP, and currently the R6 mkI. I have to say the IQ and AF have improved with each camera upgrade. I do though, have the AF issues you have pointed out do persist to varying degrees even with the setting you passed on. Definitely a disappointment considering when the lens hits focus it’s wonderful. I have just noticed that with the 17.0 R6 firmware update the AF seems to have improved when the subject is small or at a distance. Looks as though these quirks will have to be put up with as no other lens quite packs the value as this one. My wish would be a RF 200-600 with similar quality as the RF 100-400. Till then I’ll bide my time to see if the R5 mkII will bring used R5’s into my price range. Or possibly a miracle buy on a RF 100-500! Thanks again!
Thanks for your input Bill, I love the Sigma lens, the quality for the price is hard to beat. It will be interesting to see what Canon release in the future. Cheers, Duade
Hey thanks for confirming there is an improvement with the 1.7.0 firmware on the R6, as google doesn't return anything apart from a japanese YT video that talks about some improvement, everybody else is just parroting what Canon said the firmware does.
Thanks for pointing this issue out to us all. I am new to bird photography and have had little use with this lens as yet. However I went out today in the garden to practice it just would not lock on and constantly searched the branches and not the bird. Most frustrating and I thought it was me. I then realised that it was my first time out with this combo, as when I first used it I was still using an EOS R and it worked OK. I don' think I will be trying to learn this type of photography with this lens...most disappointing.
Hi Duade great video and I have this lens so you give me hope of getting good sharp photos but after many years of shooting in raw because people told me I had too, I've just learnt that photos have to be edited to bring out the colours and contrast so wondering if you might one day do a video on your work flow?
I just recently upgraded my EOS R to an R5 and I only own Sigma lenses, one of which is the 60 - 600 - I'll be in Florida next Friday for 3 weeks doing the various wildlife sanctuary tour that I've previously done with the EOS R and I really hope that focusing issue isn't a problem on the R5! Love your style, you're a great teacher and inspiration, awesome work!
Thanks Pierre, I don't think that lens is as impacted as the contemporary being a newer design. Good luck with it and be sure to let me know how you go. Cheers, Duade
I am considering buying the Sigma 60-600, would love to hear how this works out. I currently own the Canon 100-400L II, which works great adapted to the R5. But I have a need for this range in one lens.
@@Duade I shoot in a particular venue, for speakers, concerts, conferences, etc. I rarely can move to the front so have to stay in the back. The 60mm will give me the entire stage, with 600mm for zoom range in one lens. Yes, I have the 1.4x, but not helpful on the short end. Will likely rent this before purchasing, but interested in others experiences too. Thanks for responding, enjoy your content!
Very interesting! I had varied levels of success shooting little Egrets in Sichuan with a secondhand Sigma 120-400 on the R6 MKII, but it really did struggle with smaller birds, especially in the grass/amongst the shrubbery- I'm very much a beginner to birding though, so I wouldn't be surprised if a portion of my missed shots came down to user error.
Hey Duade, despite the fact I've seen a lot of good and bad reviews i did pick up this lens yesterday. I did 200 pictures since then and only happend a couple of times. Not as bad as you are experiencing. I love the lens for occasional wildlife since it's not my main photography, for that reason it's really affordable Thank you for all the content, lovely!
Thanks Duade. I'm going to test an R6 mkll tomorrow with the Tamron 150-600 G2. I'm frustrated with my X-T5 and 100-400. I love the camera but the autofocus isn't reliable. I get green boxes indicating focus but on review, no go. I'll let you know how it goes after I shoot for a while. G'day mate
Nice video as always Duade. Thought I'd share something I had considered when Canon denied 3rd party manufacturers the use of the RF mount/auto focus a few months ago. When the RF system was first announced back in 2018 (I purchased my EOS R), Canon made some announcements regarding the way the mount, contacts, data transfer speeds would effectively bring a better autofocus experience into this new Canon camera lineup. So my thought is that if older manufacturing methods from third parties could not make use of these technologies to create a similar experience hence pulsing auto focus and inability to lock and or hold onto subjects as well as being slower we Canon users and critics would look to Canon to resolve the issues of 3rd party equipment failures with their system. Thus it stands to reason that Canon would expect or try to get 3rd party manufacturers to invest in Canon methodologies for delivering the elevated experience or close the door on them. When these 3rd party lenses won't work as proficiently with Canon cameras as Canon lenses we tend to blame Canon for the failures not the 3rd party manufacturer. It should not be on Canon to find every single 3rd party model out there and re-engineer or re-jigger software to work with now inferior hardware made by others. To me it seems simple enough to take this approach and expect 3rd party manufacturers to redesign their hardware plus invest with Canon for their proprietary algorithms to make their lenses work. Don't think Canon should shoulder the blame when these issues arise. Sorry to preach, but it has been annoying seeing and hearing the commentary from youtubers bashing Canon and ready to throw Canon under the bus for protecting their business, their customers from what would now be inferior technologies (e.g. AF motors and in built software). Some Sigma lenses can take firmware upgrades so that might be part of a solution for some but remember the RF system now have more and faster contacts on board to manage the data being transferred between body and lens for the best AF experience when out in the field. Also, a shame that Canon won't address this themselves to stem the flow of vitriol being thrown at them for doing fine work. Hope you agree with my assessment and might take the time to share with your followers.
Thanks Will, yes, there is a lot of angst out there that is for sure. My personal feeling is I wish Canon would open RF to third party manufacturers but I can respect their decision not to at the moment. They are a business and have invested heavily in the RF mount themselves. I don't think it is on Canon to ensure third party lenses work, and its tough for Sigma as they made and sold the lens for EF which it works perfectly. They can release firmware but not sure they have access to the Canon RF mount to make their EF mount lenses work properly. Sigma and Tamron are also innovating all the time creating wonderful lenses and to miss out on that if you own RF is disappointing. I guess we will wait and see what lenses they do develop for Sony and Nikon etc going forward. Cheers, Duade
Hi Jeremy, I don't with my Canon lenses, I would just forget to turn it back on. I don't notice any major negatives. With the Sigma lens the viewfinder jumps around on a tripod so it is easier to turn off. Cheers, Duade
Hi Duade, I have two of the Canon R3s and just received my canon R6 II. In regard to your AF issue, I have used my Sigma 60-600 mm lens on all 3 Canons using the EF/RF adapter and found a similar issue. In theory, I believe the Canon cameras sense a non-native lens is attached, hence AF communications between the camera and the lens are the issue, as Canon RF lenses are very stable and exhibit faster and truer AF. You might try turning the AF tracking to OFF and use the R6 II as an ordinary DSLR-to manually track using back focus. I do know that Canon seems to have AF issues not being able to hold to the original AF point, but snaps to another close point. Perhaps future camera firmware can fix or improve that issue.
Thanks for the effort in testing out this lens + body combo. I have the sigma and an R6 and your videos on the 150-600 have been great. Side question: have you ever tested whether you get better results turning off either the lens or body IS (or both) when you're on a gimbal + tripod, and comparing to keeping them on? Thanks again!
Thanks Phil, I find the IS on a tripod can cause the viewfinder to jump around so often have it switched off or change the IS in the dock to only activate when taking the photo. I have not tried turning off the IBIS as it would make it very difficult to use in the field I think. Have fun with your combo. Cheers, Duade
Gosh that auto focus would have been so frustrating - the shots are amazing that's for sure. But the frustration in the use would outweigh the results. I do enjoy your in field use of gear and the thoughts you offer from your perspective. I continue to find it helpful, even if I don't use the same gear! It's just interesting.
I recently tried the Sigma 150-600 on my R7 and had exactly the same issues, so I didn't buy the lens. The Canon 100-400mm MKII is so much the better option 👍
Thank you for another very interesting video and thank you for the initial demo of the gimbal itself (saw Santa Amazon delivering mine yesterday, cant wait to try it). Coming back to the difficulties with the Sigma, would you have the capacity to test and advise about RF lenses by any chance ? Having a 40D and investing soon in an R5 or R6, I will have to replace a couple of my current lenses (the EFS' ones) and I was wondering if you had your favourites or if it would be preferable for the moment to still invest in EF + adaptor ? Thank you !
Ignore me, you did duh ! the 800 and the 100-400; well, I have to watch them again then ! May I change a bit my question and ask if for RF you had a chance to try any from their L series ?
Sylvian, the RF100-500 is one of the best lenses I have used, very light, sharp and a great all around lens. It is a little short at 500mm on a FF but a lovely lens. The EF100-400 II works well with an adapter and takes a teleconverter well also. The only other RF L series are the big primes which cost a fortune but are very nice. Cheers, Duade
Beautiful video, as always Duade. Can I make a question? How to you say the screen above the camera, showing what you are pointing at? If I am not mistaken you called it' ninja' ? Thanks
Hello Duade! Great testing video. That's a beautiful location. Just the sky and the landscape are wonderful. This test with the Sigma 150-600 looks disappointing and has me wondering if these issues exist using Nikon gear, say a Z7II or Z9 with ZTF adapter. I don't plan on getting a Nikon body in the future, but I am curious. Cheers!
I found your channel yesterday and I’ve found your tips very helpful as I search for new gear for my r6ii. Have you tried the Tamron 150-600 and you seen or heard of anyone having the same pulsing issues using that lens on canon mirrorless bodies?
Love your items. Do you also have an test with the R6 Mark II with the rf 100-500 mm. Also with the non croped files. Thinking about buying this set. TnX for the affort.
Leo, I used the lens briefly in my review but there are some RAW files you can download in the description of the video ruclips.net/video/vYXHmb9LyeY/видео.html Cheers, Duade
@@Duade Duade tnx. Have seen the item earlier, will look at the files this week. I have video's with the Nikon P900 and P1000 on my channel.Greetings Leo.
Hey Duade! Fantastic channel, really enjoy your videos. Just a thought, in case nobody mentioned it already: Which Firmware are you running on the Sigma lens? I had a multitude of issues with my 50 ART and (!) Tamron 85 VC until I updated both via their respective adapters. Might be worth a try, especially since it unlocked H+-Mode (in mechanical shutter) on my 50 Art which was previously unavailable with the old firmware on both my R6 and R5. Both worked fine afterwards.
Thanks Moritz, great to hear, I also have the 50 Art which is a beautiful lens. I was using the most up to date firmware for the lens at the time, hopefully the update it to address some of these issues. Cheers, Duade
Yes, generally with this lens I turn it off, there is a IS mode via the dock that allows IS on using a tripod and the IS works when you take the shot. With Canon lenses I generally leave it on, I don't see any major difference and it keeps the viewfinder nice and steady. Cheers, Duade
I really hope this is just the lens you were using because this is what I was planning on getting. Coming from Fujifilm, I’m hoping it’ll be much better than what I was using before.
No surprise that Canon isn't allowing third-party lenses. The systems nowadays are more and more dependent on fast, two-way communications. I'm happy that I switched entirely to Rf lenses when I got my R5.
Thanks Kevin, yes I agree, it is not surprising we are seeing some inconsistency with adapted third party lenses. Glad to hear you are enjoying your RF lenses. Cheers, Duade 👍
First of all, I thank you for sharing your knowledge in every video. Learned a lot from you and got a lot of inspiration from you. 2nd thing is I have tried with a ring EF to RF adapter which got electronics in it to use the ring functionality. I believe this did the trick for me with the pulsing issue. Recently got the R6 Mark ii and Sigma 150-600mm ef and tested with the Canon Ring adapter and non ring adapter which you have. Ring adapter worked very well and got 80% of pictures without any problems. So, I would recommend /suggest you to try this combo 1 last time 🙄.
It does not work. I have the Canon R7 using it with Canon Control Ring adapter and Sigma 150-600mm. Pulsing is indeed a problem with this combo as well. I believe the trick is to disable subject "Eye tracking" and use Spot AF.
Great test again, it seems that third part EF isn't completely EF if you ask me. As i had the same thing with the Tamron. Without you testing it i would not have known that. Hope you are doing great and enjoying the R6II with your 500 F/4. grtz edit: Just like the Tamron tap in console Sigma has one and with a seriously qualified software engineer i'm convinced the software issues can be solved.
Dude, I enjoy your channel a lot, keep up the good work. I do own the Canon R6 Mark II and the Sigma 150 to 600. I've only been out with it a couple of times since I purchased the R6 Mark 2. One thing I have observed is it does a very good job on flying birds. I spent some time with it with seagulls flying and diving into the water catching fish and was quite pleased with it. It does seem to have a little more of a problem on stationary subjects. I'm wondering if it is not optimized well for the default auto settings of the sensitivity of tracking. I hope to spend a little more time with it and try making a few adjustments to see if that helps things.
@@Duade Just a bit more follow-up on the Canon R6 Mark ii. In very bright light on a high contrast stuffed mini eagle, I've tested it with EOS RF 24-105 f 4-7.1 IS STM with interesting results, at the 24 mm range it is excellent with the eye tracking, but at the 105 mm range it does suffer from slight pulsing, especially at closer ranges. I found this very surprising. I also tested EOS EF 70-300 f 4-5.6 IS USM with a Canon EF to RF converter. At closer ranges and and greater magnification it also suffer from pulsing. At wider angles and greater distances it was pretty good. While this certainly was not a scientific test, my conclusion is that the pulsing is from the firmware in the R6 Mark ii which hopefully be updated to fix this issue.
Sigma lenses of her "Sport'" line seem to work reasonably well with R7 and R5, while the 'Contemporary" does not. I tried 150-600 C and 60-600 S and found this out. R7 is more friendly to third-party lenses when compared with R5, but I have noo idea with R6 mk2.
Hi Duade, I was just like you hoping the pulsing would be solved in the mark 2. I have a 150-600 sport lens and waiting for a good camera to be able to use my lens on. Thanks for a great video! Love the kingfisher. Cheers
Hi Duade, love your videos and your laid back approach.Just got the R6 ii and would be interested in your setup for the AF menu as I am experiencing some issues with losing focus, I use back button focus of AF ON and eye tracking on AE Lock normally.
Thanks Clive, congrats on the camera, I have mine setup very similar to Wild Alaska in his video ruclips.net/video/n98hqGtzUw0/видео.html Which lenses are you using with the camera? Cheers, Duade
@@Duade Hi Duade, many thanks for the fast reply, I'll check out the video but I think I've found the problem. Camera was on continous AF and as they have changed the menu it is now called preview AF and it was set to on, switched it off and it seems to have solved the problem. I use the RF 100-500, 2X extender mainly but also have the RF800 f11, both of which are great lenses.Thanks again, keep up the great videos and a Happy Christmas.
I'm running a sigma 150-600c on a canon m50mk2 and even with the entry level camera the lens does great at distance in good light, anything close really doesn't af well at all unless there's high contrast and a lot of light. I've also had to disable eye tracking because it throws af into chaos on this combo, lol
Another great video, I agree with your thoughts, the AF being more advanced coupled with this 3rd party older lens, the scenario in terms of closer focusing appears to cause confusing with the focusing distance required. Could you turn on the focal length and focus distance from the viewfinder menu so we can see that too? I took my 600/11 for it’s 1st test run and it’s honestly a surprise, practically forget it’s there as the weight is next to non existent paired to the R7. For the price they go for, it’s easily something to add to the lens collection.
Sadly I think we will have to admit defeat in the pursuit of Sigma & others being available on the RF mount. I think Canon so missed a trick with the 100-500 price compared with the Sony 200-600. But Canon do make some awesome glass and I suppose if you want it you pay for it. I would love to see a Sigma 150-600 sport for the RF, (a lighter version), for the money that lens was incredible on my 7d MK2. Great video again Duade, must say the Kingfisher shots were awesome, they are so hard to capture in the UK. But the silhouette at the beginning I think tipped it.
Thanks Gary, again I totally agree, it really is such a shame, the RF100-500 is currently $4800 AUD whilst the Sigma is $1499AUD making it an obvious choice for many if it did not have the AF issues. Cheers, Duade
good video mate. I've been using this lens for quite a few years and find it excellent, although my camera is a Nikon D7500 so I don't have to worry about the eye tracking issues!
Nice footage. Very beautiful photos with the best angle to do it. I have to admit that I have problems with my Sigma but they are not visible like the one You used. I have to check on my R3 also which has very similar AF to the one of r6 mrk2
11:26 YES! Go find them! Edit: Nooooo, only Kingfishers... which is OK, I guess. (Also: with the AF problem, I suspect it would've been very hard to get any shots of a antechinus?) Gonna check Derek again (have stumbled across at least one video with him before)!
I have similar issue with Sigma 150-600mm C lens with Canon R6 Mark II. There is a firmware update for Sigma 150-600mm C lens which fixes the auto focus issue. I’m not sure if that resolves the problem but it’s worth trying.
Hello Duade, I watch and enjoy your amazing videos regularly. I am visiting Australia (from South Africa) and need a lens hood and lens coat for Canon RF 100-400 Lens. Is there a photographic equipment supplier that you can recommend?
Thanks for your efforts on this video. Currently debating on adding a 7D II as a backup to my R6II and just getting by with the EF 70-200 2.8 IS II or picking up this lens to adapt to the R6 II. I shoot mostly sports and rodeo but would like to add some wildlife to my list.
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The way you show the original capture with the final image overlaid is truly original and so helpful to understanding your process.
I love you so much my friend. You ask why? There are many reasons. First of all, you are an incredibly positive person, it is very enjoyable to watch and listen to you, and you convey something new in each of your videos and you give new ideas to many people about information. Today, Sunday morning ( Latvia, 10.05) I have my coffee and will watch you with pleasure. Cheers, Duade 👍
Sounds like a great way to enjoy the morning, I hope you enjoyed it. Take care and thanks for the long term support. Cheers, Duade 👍
Totally. His speech is therapy 😇😇😇
I totally agree! Also watching Duade having my coffee on Sunday morning. Summer shining in Santa Maria (29° 41' 29'' S - 53° 48 W) Brazil. Cheers!
I like your videos great lectures but what happened with Jan Wegener ? I really miss him ????
@@antonmuhlbock9486 Hi, Anton.yes you are right, he hasn't shared a new video for a long time. I'm just as curious as you.
Hi Duade, Event if I’m not a Canon guy I follow you because you’re really honest with your comments and feedback. On this video I really appreciated the way you display the Raw and the edited version. The way you shoot birds in their environnement (and not necessary the closest as possible) is very inspiring 👌
Never shot with Canon but he's one of the few I'm getting notifications when posting a new video 🤠. Photographic laws are the same no matter the brand 🤷♂️
This channel is also not that dedicated about gear and more about wildlife in practice which i enjoy so much more, unlike the spec sheet readers, so called "reviewers".
Fully agreed, I'm neither into Canon or Sigma but as soon as I see Duade's uploaded something, I've got to watch it.
"Don't take my word for it." On the contrary, yours is the most reliable word on the subjects you cover. Really appreciate the real world testing and assessments. Thank you, Duade. I would be curious how the R6II performs with some of your older Canon glass.
Thanks, I am no expert and just share my own experience which is hopefully helpful. I used the 400 5.6 and it worked well with the R6II. Cheers, Duade
Just found of what you convey as a photographer. The Duade's birdphoto style is just perfect. Peaceful, ethical and positive. So enjoyable, here from France. Looking forward to watching the next one! Cheers
Thanks Nicolas, you are too kind, I appreciate the feedback, Cheers, Duade
Thank you Duade for your Video. I ended up getting the R6 Mark 2 on Thurday after watching all your videos for the last year and a half. I have the Sigma 150-600 and have used in the back yard shooting Rabits and Chipmunk. I have not had the eye tracking on yet but the single point auto focus is quick and snappy.
For me this camera is a major upgrade coming from the Canon 6D mark 1 and 80D. Lol
I will let you know what I find when try some wild life Photagraphy other than the back yard.
Thanks again yo do great work.
Hi Duade. Another great video, thank you very much. The sooner Canon open up the RF lens mount to the Sigma and Tamrons of this world the better. Sony and now Nikon have opened up their lens mounts and if Canon don't do the same before too long they are going to start losing customers. If they did open up the RF mount it may even be possible for Sigma etc to do some sort of firmware update to their EF mount lenses to overcome the autofocus problems. We can only hope. Some brilliant images in the video even with the frustrating autofocus. Thanks again. John
Thanks John, I totally agree and hope they can come to some sort of arrangement soon. Cheers, DUade
Great video Duade. My wife Lauretta had the Sigma 150-600 Sport on her R5 and had a lot of issues with it. She still has the lens but never uses it. She lost 100mm when she switched to the Canon 100-500 but it handles the autofocus so much better and the photos are sharper.
And FYI.. I have seen antechinus at the Duck Pond on several occasions. 👍
Thanks mate, yes the 100-500 is a beautiful lens and works great on the R5. Great to hear about the Antechinus at the duck pond. Cheers, Duade
I have been using the R6II with this lens for a week or so now. Overall I feel it does slightly better than the R7 but still not ideal. My pulsing was not as bad as you what you experienced. I was using all standard af setting and the factory firmware on the lens. When it does hit, the images are great like you mentioned. For me this combo is liveable for now until someone comes out with a decent 600m RF lens in the 1000$-2000$ range.
Thanks for sharing Spence, yes the results from the kit are fantastic which makes it frustrating, if the AF worked like the RF lenses it would be an instant buy for many. Cheers, Duade
Hello Duade. I am always impressed of your work. The area is looking amazing. Perfect for wonderfull wildlife shots. Hope you enjoyed the trip. Greetings from germany. Stefan
Thanks Stefan, I appreciate it, yes, it was a great day out. Cheers, Duade 👍
Hello Duade, you are enjoying taking pictures in the wilderness and we are happy to share these moments with you... Your feedback is always interesting specially when we have to choose a new camera! Thanks for all your videos ! Greetings from France !
Thanks Laurent, I appreciate it, Cheers, Duade
I don’t have the mkii but that lens does exactly the same on my R6. I’m a absolute beginner so thought I was doing something wrong so am relieved to see this. Thank you.
Most frustrating part is it changes focus as you take a picture also.
Thank you again
G'day Bruce, my pleasure, Cheers, DUade
G'day Duade ! Thanks for sharing this experience mate. You share the passion and what makes birding so enjoyable, but you're just as open about some frustrations along the way. Not many are as honest as you !
From this session, I like the last kingfisher best !
Thanks Werner, I appreciate the support and feedback, yes, the Kingfishers were fun, Cheers, Duade
Hi Duade, I highly appreciate this kind of video, combining technical informations with working in the field. Thanks.
Thanks Paul, It is my pleasure, Cheers, Duade
Appreciate the review of this lens and camera together!
Nice video. In agree that the AF is sending. LOT of info fast and sending tons of input changes to the motors of the lens and the 3rd party just doesn't know what to do with it.
I've been amazed in testing the ability of the R6MKII tagging super small birds in flight. Wish it had more MP :(
Oh and your "low light" looks like my good light lol
Great to hear mate, I need to do more BIF testing myself but great to hear you are enjoying the camera. Pretty incredible really. Cheers, Duade 👍
Another great video! I'm wondering if the 150-600mm lens has had firmware updates applied? I had one I used with my 70D and it worked great. When I got the EOS-R, the same lense was great. When I got the R5, it started hunting for focus more. I updated the lens firmware and it got better.......not perfect, but much better. Might be something to ask your friend if it's been updated. Maybe make another video after the update if it hasn't. Just a thought.
Morning Duade, thanks for another cracking video. The Kingfishers probably my favourite bird and the photo of the Kingfisher leaving the perch was great. I have a Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 which I married up to Canon Eos R and I found it worked flawlessly, although admittedly, there was was no eye AF requirement to worry about. I recently bit the bullet and treated myself to an R5 and spent a morning at the Yindyamarra Sculpture Walk in Albury, getting to know it. I like it a lot and I think it's a good match for my RF100-500mm lens. Anyway Duade, keep up the good work. All the best and Merry Christmas.
Great to hear Brian, the R5 100-500 is a great combo, there must be plenty of water up your way at the moment. Feel free to send me an email with your details and we might have to catch up one day whilst I am up your way. Cheers, Duade duade.paton@gmail.com
As I had mentioned in your last video, I got a new R6 MKII. I have a TamronG2 150-600. It also pulses quite a lot while focusing on the eye. It may be due to my own lack of familiarity with the focusing system. I am going to a bird sanctuary next weekend. Will try to get some raptors there will let you know.
@Aditya Harite. Yes, please post your experience at the bird sanctuary with your Tamron. Thanks.
I had that lens. I had similar AF issues on the original R6 and R5. In addition, the lens VR paired with the bodies' IBIS was unacceptably jerky, especially for video. I eventually got the Canon RF 100-500 and sold the Tamron. I miss the extra reach, but nothing else.
Duade is such a nice person; that he says, “you’ll have to take my word for it”. Even when he has plenty of video proof. Haha love these videos. 🙂
Hi Duade, I've seen some users mention that the Sigma 60-600 doesn't exhibit as bad of focus issues as the 150-600. If you ever have the ability to try that combo it might be worth your while.
Thanks, yes, I would like to try that lens one day. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade yes please do it!! If you're near the Gold Coast you can borrow mine Duade.
Was thinking about the Sigma 60-600mm myself, but after seeing this video I am concerned about purchasing one for my R6. Always excellent contend Duade!
Congratulatons Duade !!! Even though I bought the Canon RF 100-500 I couldn't bear the thought of getting rid of my Sigma 150-600C. When I saw the title of your video, for a few minutes I was thinking maybe I could sell the 100-500 and get a R6ii instead, but that pulsing looks far worse than anything I get with my original R6. Maybe it's time to move the Sigma on 😞. The Canon R6 with the RF100-500, works well for me, and even survived a dunk in the river a few weeks ago after an encounter with a bull.
Thanks Rodrigo, yes it does appear worse for some reason which is a shame. Cheers, Duade 👍
Duade, Congrats on another great video. It really helps to have someone demonstrate this "pulsing" issue on the Sigma 150-600. I have had the Sigma-600 mm lens now for over 2 years. It is a good lens, but some days it just doesn't seem to want to grab focus. I have had the issue with using it on a Canon 6D. A very subtle issue but it grows to aggravation when it does not want to play nice at that key shooting moment. I basically learned ....it seemed to help... to turn the camera off ... and then back on - almost like a reset.
I just purchased the Canon R5 just over 2 weeks ago (thanks for all the great videos on that camera, by the way) I cannot say the autofocus is worse on the R5, .... but it is definitely still there. I have learned to shoot manually a lot more in the last year or so. But the eye detection on the Canon R5 is one of the reasons I purchased it. I will say the pictures are amazing on this camera with the Sigma 150-600 so far. Such fantastic detail on birds. But I might upgrade the lens sometime to the (RF100-500mm F4.5-7.1 L ) and just have the 150-600 as backup on the older Canon 6D. I did buy the Sigma used and wonder if my years and previous use have anything to do with the "autofocus" issue, but you have shown and others have attested to the issue. Thanks again.
Thanks for sharing Bruce, I don't think we are alone and it does appear to vary from lens to lens. Have fun with the R5, a fantastic camera. Cheers, Duade
Hello. I also have the sigma 150-600C and the 6D. I have exactly the same problem that you mention. My next camera (hopefully) will be the R6ii.
In my case the sigma was new! I don't know if from one moment to another I started with that problem or it's just that I noticed it.
@@fedegregor Yeah I upgraded to EOS R5 - I wanted a better camera after 3 years with the 6D, but I use the EOS R5 with the Sigma 150-600 and I still have the issue. It is annoying and it happened to me this weekend. When it happens it tends to do it when I have used the camera/lens shooting for a while - over an hour at least - and then it just cannot lock-in and "pulses". My solution still is to turn the camera off and it seems to reset and come back and not "pulse" for quite a while. But it is annoying.
I want to upgrade to the fantastic RF 100-500mm f/4.5-7.1 L. but it is not a cheap lens so need to save $$$. I would keep the 6D and Sigma 150-600 as a kind of backup, plus a kind of sentimental reason as it got me into bird photography. Maybe keep it in the car truck for when I see something out of the blue and want to take its picture. I will say since I bought my lens used - I just looked it up 843.00 on November 30, 2020, and it has served me well, I dropped it once and broke the lens hood and replaced that. The pulsing annoys me at times. But it takes some very good photos with Canon R5.
Beautiful video. What camera and lens did you use to photography yourself in this video
The in flight pic of the kingfisher looks amazing, and that was with the sigma lens wow 😳😳
Great info Duade, really saw the meaning of down and dirty. Thanks for showing the raw file and the cropped finished version.👀
Love the Kingfisher taking off shot Duade. I can see that I'll have to get back to the wetlands again, as to when?
Another great video. Those backlit landscape shots were beautiful. We all hope Sigma and other 3rd party manufacturers would somehow get an agreement from Canon for producing RF mount lens, especially, the 150-600 and other telephoto lens.
Thanks Simon, totally agree, Cheers, Duade
@@Duade I also hope but fear that if the sigma 150-600 comes in a RF version, it will be priced similarly to the canon rf 100-500mm f4.5-7.1l with usm. At the same time, I would like to ask your opinion on whether the sigma C would also work perfectly on the RP body, let's say when shooting an object or for single-point measurement of animals such as deer and the like, or is this refocusing only noticeable when choosing auto observation with the eye of animals
G'day, there should not be any issue on the RP as it does not have eye tracking. Cheers, Duade@@MrRaduso
Thank you very much 🙂Your knowledge and experience are very interesting and one often learns a lot of new things 👏@@Duade
Love the Cockatoo shots! I really love my Sigma 150-600 maybe they will be able to address this issue with firmware. I do see this issue in my R7 but not as bad as in this video. Cheers and thanks for another great video.
Thanks, yes, I did not have it as bad on the R7 either which is interesting, the R62 was by far the worst I have experienced which is a shame. Cheers, Duade
Another informative video Duade. Thanks for your honesty. Hope you and yours have a great holiday season. Cheers from Canada.
Thanks Mike, glad you enjoyed it, take care, Cheers, Duade
Another great review. I have the R6 (not the R6ll) and enjoy the combination of that camera and Sigma 150-600 Contemporary lens. I don’t have too many focus hunting issues using dual back button focus method.
What amazing shots of the king fisher's happy birding have an awsum xmas stay safe out in the bush...........
Duade. First off, I love the channel and look forward to all your videos. May I make a suggestion for future content? I’d like to see more training type video on settings and exposure in the field. Tips on getting the most from the gear that you can. Handling low light, where you compromise. That’s a big one for me. I love to shoot in the morning, but the RF 100-500 does struggle at 7.1. With the R5. What conditions you are looking for to create certain images. I don’t carry a tripod. Sometimes a monopod. Mostly walks in parks and woods. I’ve been shooting for 2 years. Weekend warrior for now due to work, and have been learning so much. I love that you highlight the gear, and what is possible. I know I need to grow my skills, and experience. So maybe more learning videos? Again thank you for all your hard work.
Even though I bought the Canon RF 100-500 I couldn't bear the thought of getting rid of my Sigma 150-600C. When I saw the title of your video, for a few minutes I was thinking maybe I could sell the 100-500 and get a R6ii instead, but that pulsing looks far worse than anything I get with my original R6. Maybe it's time to move the Sigma on 😞. The Canon R6 with the RF100-500, works well for me, and even survived a dunk in the river a few weeks ago after an encounter with a bull.
Thanks Duade for the amazing video, i am using R5 and learning to do bird or wildlife photography. I have RF 100-400 but is not long enough for the reach. The RF 100-500 is too expensive for me and i am looking for this sigma lens but realised the AF issue which required tweaking the settings (from your previous video) to improve the AF stability, not sure if I should get it or not. Anyway, I live in Sydney and Centennial Park is a great place to start I reckon, I am inspired by you and your amazing video. Hope I can learn more from you. Love your work and keep it up. Stay healthy and safe.
If you could afford a 4000$ body, you better also invest in good glass. The RF 100-400 is close to a shame on a R5.
If the 100-400 is really too short, why not getting a RF 800 F11 in addition or just go for the expensive 100-500, thats the best fit for the R5 as much it hurts financially? I enjoyed the RF 800 a lot on full frame, not so much anymore on APS-C (R7, too much reach with 1280mm...)
But the RF 800 is also another "low quality/budget" lens, i dont see much sense in getting a high end body and then use the lower end lenses on it. And even im doing this mistake, R7 is a higher end APS-C camera and i use more or less glass worth between 50 and 900$ (more towards the lower end^^)
In your situation i would rather hope for a R7 Mk2 or so as 2nd/wildlife/video body, i began wildlife also with full frame and wildlife was the reason to switch back/downgrade from entry level FF to higher end APS-C again. At first i kept the FF camera, then i realized a backup is nice but i dont really need it, as well i didnt had much practical use for the entry level FF camera anymore but much more for the more modern APS-C.
I own the Sigma 150-600mm 1:5-6.3 DG OS HSM C as well as the Canon EOS 90D and the EOS R7. In the meantime, I have found that the 90D works much better with the Sigma 150-600 than the R7, since the AF pumps less and the images are almost always sharp. Also, the IS seems to work better with the 90D because the image shakes less. So I guess I'll have to keep the 90D.
Nice video, and gret shots! I like the kingfisher most. I hope Canon allowes third-party lenses for RF soon! I wan't to go out so much, in my region of Germany is nice snow, I have a feeder in my yard and the birds are there, but i'm sick! You made my day with this video, thank you!
Thanks for this video, Duade. Have you ever tried the Sigma 150-600 sports on mirrorless bodies? I am curious because there are a few decent deals on used sports lenses.
Thanks for your great video. It made my Sunday (in Germany) joyful. 🙏
That is great to hear, thanks for the ongoing support, Cheers, Duade
Another great video. Used this lens all day today on my R7. It worked well for distance stuff but I did experience the same pulsing at a shorted distance on a subject, probably my fault as the bird was probably 6 meters away. I prefer the 70-200L IS II for shorter range stuff or the RF 100-400. I'm still going to get the R6 II. Happy birding!
Thanks for confirming Tony, always hard when you have only used one lens. Yes, good to have another option. Have fun out there. Cheers, Duade 👍
The photos you managed to get in focus are sharp and beautiful. I bought the Sirui AR3204 about a month ago and I can't believe how sturdy it is, compared to my Leofoto tripod.
Thanks Danny, yes, it is fantastic, Cheers, Duade
Thx Duade for your video! Love you style.
You are confirming my decision to turn my back on Canon and changing to a different system for mirrorless. I still got my 90d, but when testing the R7 with my EF glass I was very disappointed with the performance (speed and reliability). And when buying new, I wanted something more compact (and less expensive) than what Canon has to offer at the moment on the RF Mount.
I guess the newer the camera or the software, the less it will match with the older lenses.
And, I have to say it again… love your style🙂
Thanks Sigurd, you are too kind, I am planning on trying Sony, Fuji, Olympus and Nikon in 2023 which should be fun. Cheers, Duade
Thank you Duade for sharing! Very interesting ! We all have our little tricks to improve the use of the Sigma 150-600! For my 90D I admit that after 1 year it's day and night! I'm really happy with it! of course everything is not perfect but it's so sharp ! I sent it with my 90D to Sigma France to calibrate it directly with their internal process! What I really like about this lens is the image quality and the beauty of the Bokeh for an excellent quality/price ratio. I hope that Canon will finally allow other manufacturers in 2023 to offer RF mount solutions!
Such a helpful video. I was researching the Sigma 600 lens with Canon R6MII and found your video. Such a fantastic job and examples. I will now be following you to learn more. Excellent work and appreciate you sharing your findings.
Glad it was helpful!
Many thanks Duade! Your videos are brilliant; definitely keep up the awesome work you do. I have to say I'm pretty disappointed that the Eye AF issues seem to be worse on the R6 Mark II when compared to the R6 Mark I. I hope they fix it with a firmware update in future. I think I'll be sticking with my 6D Mark II and 7D Mark II for now. The only real draw to mirrorless (for me) are these 'helpful' features like Eye AF with all of my lenses (Canon and third-party). Personally speaking it's in Canon's interests to support third-party lenses, otherwise if I have to replace my third-party lenses with Canon equivalents when moving to mirrorless, I'm jumping ship to another brand.
If the local camera shop will let me try a Canon R6 Mark II with my Tamron 150-600mm G2 I'll chime back in!
Great to hear Maddie, I suspect the Tamron is not quite as bad. Cheers, Duade
I have used the Sigma 150 - 600 since it came out and LOVE IT!! The reason I have not and probably will not switch to Canon Mirrorless are the issues with the combination. I have gone to buy the R7, R6 & R5 but non have worked right with the Sigma. Just heard that Sigma states that "The 150 - 600 will not work reliably with the Canon mirrorless system and at this time we do not have a replacement 150 - 600 for the mirrorless in the works" I hope this changes but the 5D mkIV's will not be going anyplace for a while.
Yes, it is a shame as it is such a good lens, have fun with the 5d4, Cheers, Duade
Excellent video, thank you Duade for compiling a good mix of technical and practical experiences. Keep it up
Wow… the photos are amazing, Duade! As usual! One question, do you use back button focus or shutter button? If you want to keep tracking with back button, do you need to be constantly holding it or once it locked it was supposed to keep track?
Thanks again Duade for the great practical info and photos. I have the sigma 150-600c and have used it on three cameras now. The Canon SL3 (crop DSLR), RP, and currently the R6 mkI. I have to say the IQ and AF have improved with each camera upgrade. I do though, have the AF issues you have pointed out do persist to varying degrees even with the setting you passed on. Definitely a disappointment considering when the lens hits focus it’s wonderful. I have just noticed that with the 17.0 R6 firmware update the AF seems to have improved when the subject is small or at a distance. Looks as though these quirks will have to be put up with as no other lens quite packs the value as this one. My wish would be a RF 200-600 with similar quality as the RF 100-400. Till then I’ll bide my time to see if the R5 mkII will bring used R5’s into my price range. Or possibly a miracle buy on a RF 100-500! Thanks again!
Thanks for your input Bill, I love the Sigma lens, the quality for the price is hard to beat. It will be interesting to see what Canon release in the future. Cheers, Duade
Hey thanks for confirming there is an improvement with the 1.7.0 firmware on the R6, as google doesn't return anything apart from a japanese YT video that talks about some improvement, everybody else is just parroting what Canon said the firmware does.
Thanks for pointing this issue out to us all. I am new to bird photography and have had little use with this lens as yet. However I went out today in the garden to practice it just would not lock on and constantly searched the branches and not the bird. Most frustrating and I thought it was me. I then realised that it was my first time out with this combo, as when I first used it I was still using an EOS R and it worked OK. I don' think I will be trying to learn this type of photography with this lens...most disappointing.
I was watching silently until 13:23 when i spontaneously screaming "Woaaah" and thats a beautiful shot right there
How is the Tamron 150-600 auto focus? Is it any better?
great pictures as ever, thanks so much. love the grebe shot you showed in the end of the video.
Hi Duade great video and I have this lens so you give me hope of getting good sharp photos but after many years of shooting in raw because people told me I had too, I've just learnt that photos have to be edited to bring out the colours and contrast so wondering if you might one day do a video on your work flow?
If you click on his main youtube page he has several workflow videos :)
I just recently upgraded my EOS R to an R5 and I only own Sigma lenses, one of which is the 60 - 600 - I'll be in Florida next Friday for 3 weeks doing the various wildlife sanctuary tour that I've previously done with the EOS R and I really hope that focusing issue isn't a problem on the R5! Love your style, you're a great teacher and inspiration, awesome work!
Thanks Pierre, I don't think that lens is as impacted as the contemporary being a newer design. Good luck with it and be sure to let me know how you go. Cheers, Duade
I am considering buying the Sigma 60-600, would love to hear how this works out. I currently own the Canon 100-400L II, which works great adapted to the R5. But I have a need for this range in one lens.
@@riddleuncc Have you considered using a 1.4x converter on your 100-400 giving you 140-560 f8 It works very well with tracking etc. Cheers, Duade 👍
@@Duade I shoot in a particular venue, for speakers, concerts, conferences, etc. I rarely can move to the front so have to stay in the back. The 60mm will give me the entire stage, with 600mm for zoom range in one lens. Yes, I have the 1.4x, but not helpful on the short end. Will likely rent this before purchasing, but interested in others experiences too. Thanks for responding, enjoy your content!
@@riddleuncc I would love to try the lens also, it is a very impressive zoom range. Good luck, Cheers, Duade
I have a Sigma Art 50mm 1.4 and so far it's been stellar on the R6 II.
Wonderful to hear, that is a cracking lens. Cheers, Duade 👍
Hi Duade, great video. How often do you go out birding?
Thanks, I wish it was more often but likely once or twice a week if I can. It really depends on the video I am doing. Cheers, Duade 👍
Very interesting! I had varied levels of success shooting little Egrets in Sichuan with a secondhand Sigma 120-400 on the R6 MKII, but it really did struggle with smaller birds, especially in the grass/amongst the shrubbery- I'm very much a beginner to birding though, so I wouldn't be surprised if a portion of my missed shots came down to user error.
Thanks for another great one!! Can you please share the autofocus settings used? Thanks again
Hey Duade, despite the fact I've seen a lot of good and bad reviews i did pick up this lens yesterday. I did 200 pictures since then and only happend a couple of times. Not as bad as you are experiencing. I love the lens for occasional wildlife since it's not my main photography, for that reason it's really affordable
Thank you for all the content, lovely!
Hi , Which one is better for Photography R6 mark 2 or R7 ?
By the way nice video .. 👌☺️
Thanks Duade. I'm going to test an R6 mkll tomorrow with the Tamron 150-600 G2. I'm frustrated with my X-T5 and 100-400. I love the camera but the autofocus isn't reliable. I get green boxes indicating focus but on review, no go. I'll let you know how it goes after I shoot for a while. G'day mate
Thanks Bruce, I look forward to hearing how you went with the R6II, Cheers, Duade
Nice video as always Duade. Thought I'd share something I had considered when Canon denied 3rd party manufacturers the use of the RF mount/auto focus a few months ago.
When the RF system was first announced back in 2018 (I purchased my EOS R), Canon made some announcements regarding the way the mount, contacts, data transfer speeds would effectively bring a better autofocus experience into this new Canon camera lineup. So my thought is that if older manufacturing methods from third parties could not make use of these technologies to create a similar experience hence pulsing auto focus and inability to lock and or hold onto subjects as well as being slower we Canon users and critics would look to Canon to resolve the issues of 3rd party equipment failures with their system. Thus it stands to reason that Canon would expect or try to get 3rd party manufacturers to invest in Canon methodologies for delivering the elevated experience or close the door on them. When these 3rd party lenses won't work as proficiently with Canon cameras as Canon lenses we tend to blame Canon for the failures not the 3rd party manufacturer. It should not be on Canon to find every single 3rd party model out there and re-engineer or re-jigger software to work with now inferior hardware made by others. To me it seems simple enough to take this approach and expect 3rd party manufacturers to redesign their hardware plus invest with Canon for their proprietary algorithms to make their lenses work. Don't think Canon should shoulder the blame when these issues arise.
Sorry to preach, but it has been annoying seeing and hearing the commentary from youtubers bashing Canon and ready to throw Canon under the bus for protecting their business, their customers from what would now be inferior technologies (e.g. AF motors and in built software).
Some Sigma lenses can take firmware upgrades so that might be part of a solution for some but remember the RF system now have more and faster contacts on board to manage the data being transferred between body and lens for the best AF experience when out in the field.
Also, a shame that Canon won't address this themselves to stem the flow of vitriol being thrown at them for doing fine work.
Hope you agree with my assessment and might take the time to share with your followers.
Thanks Will, yes, there is a lot of angst out there that is for sure. My personal feeling is I wish Canon would open RF to third party manufacturers but I can respect their decision not to at the moment. They are a business and have invested heavily in the RF mount themselves.
I don't think it is on Canon to ensure third party lenses work, and its tough for Sigma as they made and sold the lens for EF which it works perfectly. They can release firmware but not sure they have access to the Canon RF mount to make their EF mount lenses work properly.
Sigma and Tamron are also innovating all the time creating wonderful lenses and to miss out on that if you own RF is disappointing.
I guess we will wait and see what lenses they do develop for Sony and Nikon etc going forward. Cheers, Duade
I really enjoy your videos. Do you turn off the image stabilization when you shoot on a tripod? I have heard various answers to this question.
Hi Jeremy, I don't with my Canon lenses, I would just forget to turn it back on. I don't notice any major negatives. With the Sigma lens the viewfinder jumps around on a tripod so it is easier to turn off. Cheers, Duade
Hi Duade, I have two of the Canon R3s and just received my canon R6 II. In regard to your AF issue, I have used my Sigma 60-600 mm lens on all 3 Canons using the EF/RF adapter and found a similar issue. In theory, I believe the Canon cameras sense a non-native lens is attached, hence AF communications between the camera and the lens are the issue, as Canon RF lenses are very stable and exhibit faster and truer AF. You might try turning the AF tracking to OFF and use the R6 II as an ordinary DSLR-to manually track using back focus. I do know that Canon seems to have AF issues not being able to hold to the original AF point, but snaps to another close point. Perhaps future camera firmware can fix or improve that issue.
Thanks so much for sharing another wonderful video like always, I am subscriber to Mr. Hilton as well, keep up with the awesome content 🐦👍🤗
Hello I have the R6 and the Sigma 150-600 and have focus issues too.
Thanks for the effort in testing out this lens + body combo. I have the sigma and an R6 and your videos on the 150-600 have been great. Side question: have you ever tested whether you get better results turning off either the lens or body IS (or both) when you're on a gimbal + tripod, and comparing to keeping them on? Thanks again!
Thanks Phil, I find the IS on a tripod can cause the viewfinder to jump around so often have it switched off or change the IS in the dock to only activate when taking the photo. I have not tried turning off the IBIS as it would make it very difficult to use in the field I think. Have fun with your combo. Cheers, Duade
Gosh that auto focus would have been so frustrating - the shots are amazing that's for sure. But the frustration in the use would outweigh the results. I do enjoy your in field use of gear and the thoughts you offer from your perspective. I continue to find it helpful, even if I don't use the same gear! It's just interesting.
I recently tried the Sigma 150-600 on my R7 and had exactly the same issues, so I didn't buy the lens. The Canon 100-400mm MKII is so much the better option 👍
I'm sure it'll perform better, but it won't have the reach of the Sigma.
Thank you for another very interesting video and thank you for the initial demo of the gimbal itself (saw Santa Amazon delivering mine yesterday, cant wait to try it). Coming back to the difficulties with the Sigma, would you have the capacity to test and advise about RF lenses by any chance ? Having a 40D and investing soon in an R5 or R6, I will have to replace a couple of my current lenses (the EFS' ones) and I was wondering if you had your favourites or if it would be preferable for the moment to still invest in EF + adaptor ? Thank you !
Ignore me, you did duh ! the 800 and the 100-400; well, I have to watch them again then ! May I change a bit my question and ask if for RF you had a chance to try any from their L series ?
Sylvian, the RF100-500 is one of the best lenses I have used, very light, sharp and a great all around lens. It is a little short at 500mm on a FF but a lovely lens. The EF100-400 II works well with an adapter and takes a teleconverter well also. The only other RF L series are the big primes which cost a fortune but are very nice. Cheers, Duade
Beautiful video, as always Duade. Can I make a question? How to you say the screen above the camera, showing what you are pointing at? If I am not mistaken you called it' ninja' ? Thanks
Hello Duade! Great testing video. That's a beautiful location. Just the sky and the landscape are wonderful. This test with the Sigma 150-600 looks disappointing and has me wondering if these issues exist using Nikon gear, say a Z7II or Z9 with ZTF adapter. I don't plan on getting a Nikon body in the future, but I am curious. Cheers!
Roger, I would love to test that to see if the same happens on Sony and Nikon. Cheers, Duade
I found your channel yesterday and I’ve found your tips very helpful as I search for new gear for my r6ii. Have you tried the Tamron 150-600 and you seen or heard of anyone having the same pulsing issues using that lens on canon mirrorless bodies?
Love your items. Do you also have an test with the R6 Mark II with the rf 100-500 mm. Also with the non croped files. Thinking about buying this set. TnX for the affort.
Leo, I used the lens briefly in my review but there are some RAW files you can download in the description of the video ruclips.net/video/vYXHmb9LyeY/видео.html Cheers, Duade
@@Duade Duade tnx. Have seen the item earlier, will look at the files this week. I have video's with the Nikon P900 and P1000 on my channel.Greetings Leo.
Hey Duade! Fantastic channel, really enjoy your videos. Just a thought, in case nobody mentioned it already: Which Firmware are you running on the Sigma lens? I had a multitude of issues with my 50 ART and (!) Tamron 85 VC until I updated both via their respective adapters. Might be worth a try, especially since it unlocked H+-Mode (in mechanical shutter) on my 50 Art which was previously unavailable with the old firmware on both my R6 and R5. Both worked fine afterwards.
Thanks Moritz, great to hear, I also have the 50 Art which is a beautiful lens. I was using the most up to date firmware for the lens at the time, hopefully the update it to address some of these issues. Cheers, Duade
Great video, there is a lot to learn from you. Do you turn the IS off when you use a tripod/monopod/groundpod?
Yes, generally with this lens I turn it off, there is a IS mode via the dock that allows IS on using a tripod and the IS works when you take the shot. With Canon lenses I generally leave it on, I don't see any major difference and it keeps the viewfinder nice and steady. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade Thank you for the reply, much appreciated
I'd really like to see you do a trip to Southern or East Africa - you'd love it there!
I would love too, hopefully one day. Cheers, Duade 👍
I really hope this is just the lens you were using because this is what I was planning on getting. Coming from Fujifilm, I’m hoping it’ll be much better than what I was using before.
No surprise that Canon isn't allowing third-party lenses. The systems nowadays are more and more dependent on fast, two-way communications. I'm happy that I switched entirely to Rf lenses when I got my R5.
Thanks Kevin, yes I agree, it is not surprising we are seeing some inconsistency with adapted third party lenses. Glad to hear you are enjoying your RF lenses. Cheers, Duade 👍
Or more likely it's a monetary decision by Canon.
First of all, I thank you for sharing your knowledge in every video. Learned a lot from you and got a lot of inspiration from you.
2nd thing is I have tried with a ring EF to RF adapter which got electronics in it to use the ring functionality. I believe this did the trick for me with the pulsing issue. Recently got the R6 Mark ii and Sigma 150-600mm ef and tested with the Canon Ring adapter and non ring adapter which you have. Ring adapter worked very well and got 80% of pictures without any problems.
So, I would recommend /suggest you to try this combo 1 last time 🙄.
It does not work. I have the Canon R7 using it with Canon Control Ring adapter and Sigma 150-600mm. Pulsing is indeed a problem with this combo as well. I believe the trick is to disable subject "Eye tracking" and use Spot AF.
Great test again, it seems that third part EF isn't completely EF if you ask me. As i had the same thing with the Tamron. Without you testing it i would not have known that.
Hope you are doing great and enjoying the R6II with your 500 F/4.
grtz
edit: Just like the Tamron tap in console Sigma has one and with a seriously qualified software engineer i'm convinced the software issues can be solved.
Thanks Rob, yes, there is something going on for sure, lets hope Sigma do a firmware update to address it. Cheers, Duade
Dude, I enjoy your channel a lot, keep up the good work. I do own the Canon R6 Mark II and the Sigma 150 to 600. I've only been out with it a couple of times since I purchased the R6 Mark 2. One thing I have observed is it does a very good job on flying birds. I spent some time with it with seagulls flying and diving into the water catching fish and was quite pleased with it. It does seem to have a little more of a problem on stationary subjects. I'm wondering if it is not optimized well for the default auto settings of the sensitivity of tracking. I hope to spend a little more time with it and try making a few adjustments to see if that helps things.
Thanks for sharing Bob, good to hear it did well with BIF, feel free to keep me updated with your findings, Cheers, Duade
@@Duade Just a bit more follow-up on the Canon R6 Mark ii. In very bright light on a high contrast stuffed mini eagle, I've tested it with EOS RF 24-105 f 4-7.1 IS STM with interesting results, at the 24 mm range it is excellent with the eye tracking, but at the 105 mm range it does suffer from slight pulsing, especially at closer ranges. I found this very surprising. I also tested EOS EF 70-300 f 4-5.6 IS USM with a Canon EF to RF converter. At closer ranges and and greater magnification it also suffer from pulsing. At wider angles and greater distances it was pretty good. While this certainly was not a scientific test, my conclusion is that the pulsing is from the firmware in the R6 Mark ii which hopefully be updated to fix this issue.
@@Bob-oq5du Thanks for sharing Bob, very interesting, Cheers, Duade
Sigma lenses of her "Sport'" line seem to work reasonably well with R7 and R5, while the 'Contemporary" does not. I tried 150-600 C and 60-600 S and found this out. R7 is more friendly to third-party lenses when compared with R5, but I have noo idea with R6 mk2.
Thanks for sharing that Simon, I would love to try the sport version myself one day. Cheers, Duade
I also have the Sirui PH10 on my Skimmer Ground Pod ll. Great combo!
Thanks Abe, a great combo for sure, Cheers, Duade
Hi Duade, I was just like you hoping the pulsing would be solved in the mark 2. I have a 150-600 sport lens and waiting for a good camera to be able to use my lens on. Thanks for a great video! Love the kingfisher. Cheers
Hi Duade, love your videos and your laid back approach.Just got the R6 ii and would be interested in your setup for the AF menu as I am experiencing some issues with losing focus, I use back button focus of AF ON and eye tracking on AE Lock normally.
Thanks Clive, congrats on the camera, I have mine setup very similar to Wild Alaska in his video ruclips.net/video/n98hqGtzUw0/видео.html Which lenses are you using with the camera? Cheers, Duade
@@Duade Hi Duade, many thanks for the fast reply, I'll check out the video but I think I've found the problem. Camera was on continous AF and as they have changed the menu it is now called preview AF and it was set to on, switched it off and it seems to have solved the problem. I use the RF 100-500, 2X extender mainly but also have the RF800 f11, both of which are great lenses.Thanks again, keep up the great videos and a Happy Christmas.
I'm running a sigma 150-600c on a canon m50mk2 and even with the entry level camera the lens does great at distance in good light, anything close really doesn't af well at all unless there's high contrast and a lot of light. I've also had to disable eye tracking because it throws af into chaos on this combo, lol
Hi I follow your Channel and I love your video and I'm learning a lot by watching your Channel and keep up the good work you are doing
Sigma lens always have focus problem, I think the best way is to go back to their CS people to see any update of firmware to fix your problem
Thanks, it is a shame as it works well on EF DSLRS, but I guess we cannot expect it to work perfectly via the adapter on RF cameras. Cheers, Duade
Another great video, I agree with your thoughts, the AF being more advanced coupled with this 3rd party older lens, the scenario in terms of closer focusing appears to cause confusing with the focusing distance required. Could you turn on the focal length and focus distance from the viewfinder menu so we can see that too?
I took my 600/11 for it’s 1st test run and it’s honestly a surprise, practically forget it’s there as the weight is next to non existent paired to the R7. For the price they go for, it’s easily something to add to the lens collection.
Great review like always, cheers from Belgium
I'm looking for the Sigma 150-600mm sports, hope it will be better than the contemporary about the focus issue
Thank you, Cheers, Duade 👍
I have not used the sport version myself but suspect it may have similar issues. Cheers, Duade 👍
Sadly I think we will have to admit defeat in the pursuit of Sigma & others being available on the RF mount. I think Canon so missed a trick with the 100-500 price compared with the Sony 200-600. But Canon do make some awesome glass and I suppose if you want it you pay for it. I would love to see a Sigma 150-600 sport for the RF, (a lighter version), for the money that lens was incredible on my 7d MK2.
Great video again Duade, must say the Kingfisher shots were awesome, they are so hard to capture in the UK. But the silhouette at the beginning I think tipped it.
Thanks Gary, again I totally agree, it really is such a shame, the RF100-500 is currently $4800 AUD whilst the Sigma is $1499AUD making it an obvious choice for many if it did not have the AF issues. Cheers, Duade
good video mate. I've been using this lens for quite a few years and find it excellent, although my camera is a Nikon D7500 so I don't have to worry about the eye tracking issues!
Hi Duade. I would like to add that this arcaswiss foot is included in the gimbal head package.
Nice footage. Very beautiful photos with the best angle to do it. I have to admit that I have problems with my Sigma but they are not visible like the one You used. I have to check on my R3 also which has very similar AF to the one of r6 mrk2
Can you link out the Ninja screen as well. Thank you!
11:26 YES! Go find them!
Edit: Nooooo, only Kingfishers... which is OK, I guess. (Also: with the AF problem, I suspect it would've been very hard to get any shots of a antechinus?) Gonna check Derek again (have stumbled across at least one video with him before)!
Yes, I tried but they were moving too fast and the Kingfishers got my attention and I could not resist :-) Cheers, Duade
I have similar issue with Sigma 150-600mm C lens with Canon R6 Mark II. There is a firmware update for Sigma 150-600mm C lens which fixes the auto focus issue. I’m not sure if that resolves the problem but it’s worth trying.
Hello Duade, I watch and enjoy your amazing videos regularly. I am visiting Australia (from South Africa) and need a lens hood and lens coat for Canon RF 100-400 Lens. Is there a photographic equipment supplier that you can recommend?
G'day Bruce, Digidirect are good. You can get the hood via Amazon I think if you want the after market one. Cheers, Duade 👍
Thanks for your efforts on this video. Currently debating on adding a 7D II as a backup to my R6II and just getting by with the EF 70-200 2.8 IS II or picking up this lens to adapt to the R6 II. I shoot mostly sports and rodeo but would like to add some wildlife to my list.