I was driving by when they let the first shot go, Snapped me right to attention! That was so cool that they did this. thank you to everyone who served out country.
Actually all four props were on the ship until the drydock in Boston in '98. They took the outer two off during drydocking to help with watertight integrity. The two that were removed are now on display at Battleship Cove in Fall River MA. She still has her two inboard props for when I get her running for her 2045 victory tour! ;) I volunteer onboard and would be happy to answer any questions about Her.
@dirtbiker1445 The propellant used to fire 16 inch main battery guns, (rifles in on a ship), is Cordite. Cordite replaced black powder in military applications in the late 1800's.
Actually Mastercorder. It was the USS Washington (BB-56) that put a hurting on the IJN Kirishima. USS South Dakota was damaged by IJN Kirishima's 14 inch main and 5 inch secondary guns. While Kirishima was concentrating on USS South Dakota Kirishima did not realize that USS Washington was closing on her. USS Washington open fired. Kirishima was struck by nine 16 inch and numerous 5 inch shells. Kirishima was scuttled by her crew. this happened at the Second Battle of Guadalcanal
Great video, I was there standing right behind where you were lol. I took a very similar video with my small camera. That was an awesome day. We had a blast.
@HaloCE14 The 16's use kegs of blackpowder. They can easily be fired just using powder, howbeit, they only need to use 1 keg instead of the multiples used behind a shell. The shop owners would not appreciate the possible broken windows.
@michael225q There were in fact bits and pieces removed from the memorial battleships when the IOWAs were reactivated in the 80s. They were used as spares, or in cases where condition justified it replacement.
@werdup6 To set things straight... The South Dakota Class battleships had (have) mark 6, 16" 45 caliber naval rifles. They fired the mark 8 2700 lb. armor piercing shell about 23 miles with accuracy. There are no modern warships that could withstand a direct hit from one of these guns. 16"/11"GPS guided, discarding sabot rounds were test-fitted to the IOWA class prior to their retirement in the early 90s. These shells had a range of around 100 miles but were not operational prior to retirement.
This raises a question I've had for a long time. I didn't think the 5" were still around in firing condition. They were special dual purpose guns that, I thought, became largely obsolete at end of WWII. With jets coming on, the AA half of the dual purpose was foiled. They weren't designed to keep up with jets. But here they are blasting away. Maybe special made ceremonial blanks. I'd love to talk to an old WWII sailor who manned these. I don't know how they kept up with planes THEN.
i know that the modern Coast guard cutters are armed with a gun that i think to be this size although i'm not 100% also if they are i figure that the coast guards version is more of a rapid fire one for dealing with smugglers and stuff of that sort.
Taylen Deen Was launched October 28th 2013 been pride to Navy since.And it has weapons called missiles and guns that lower in pods too.The Zumwalt Destroyers guns raise and lower so they are not really seen unless in use
I remember during the discontinued event “Fall River Celebrates America” they had a fireworks show, and before and after the show we’d hear and see a gun salute from the battleship. I’m sure at the time it was the 16”. One year it came from one of the front turrets, and and year the rear or aft turret. I don’t think it was a real gun shot, I think it was mor like a pyro shot. Back in the day those 16” gun turrets would be loaded with 6 bags of Black gun powder. It was a lot of work getting those guns to fire a boom. And cleaning up after took a long time.
Pinchy08 one of those 16 inch guns on the second turret now missing, the turret was overstuffed with black powder bags and it blew killing 47 instantly. April 19,1989 I could be wrong but the month and year I know for sure.
Pickleman on the second turret there was an third the crew there were putting black powder bags then boom instantly died. 47 lost their lives. April 19 I wanna say, 1989 I know for sure and the month.
@@pinchy08 They propane to do that. An Actual firing of just one barrel would blow windows for 2 mile radius around the ship. The windows on the bridge were removable so that they didnt shatter them.
Yeah...i can’t find anything about them ever having fired a 16in gun on ANY battleship in port during peacetime with or without propane. Although I do feel like I’ve seen such a video of a simulated firing on the USS Iowa. And the turret explosion you’re referencing was also on the Iowa, not the Massachusetts. Edit: I found the video I was thinking of. It was a pyrotechnic shot and it was on the Iowa ruclips.net/video/dd2TH4JKlR8/видео.html
@Robkat3751 Nitrocellulose. In pellets about the size of 12 gauge shotgun shells... A small black powder charge ignites the 110 lb bags of nitrocellulose.
@PeteOF I'm going to hold you to that promise!!!!!!!!!!!!! When I visited Big Mamie about 15 years ago the Exec Director told me the "engineers" were threatening to light off the boilers. I loved hearing that!
Well, they had special AA shells that had Proximity Fuses. So it could be useful against Jets coming straight at it instead of flying towards the side.
@Mastercorder I never heard of a battleship Hiroshima. I did some research. I found nothing on a battleship with that name. However, I discovered that the maximum range of a 16"/50-cal would be 39,895 yards (+/- 19.6976 n.m.); the maximum altitude 11,981 yards, projectile: 1900-pound. Would there be a veteran around caring to give us some reliable info? I would be honored. Anyway, thanks for making me curious.
@werdup6 Design called for explosive charge. Keep in mind, they did not have the design finalized, but there are pics of the mock up shells being struck down to the magazines for fitment testing. My best understanding from extremely informed personnel is there were no severe technical hurdles left, only political. BTW, I'm not aware of any DD at Samar surviving a hit from the YAMATO or MUSASHI or any other BB...
These Dual Purpose guns as the where called, could also load HE AA ammunition, to fire at far away incoming aircraft. They where radar guided, and once the shells where away, they whould explode in the air, leaving pehind a black cloud of shrapnell, lethal for the plane and the pilot.
I was there one year for this. Nothing matches the sound in person. You don’t get that echo off the opposite shore in videos. BA-BOOM (ba-boom) BA-BOOM (ba-boom)
Wouldn't do any harm if they loaded a full powder bag instead of using cut down blanks. The civil war reinactor used cannon with a full bag shot but no projectile, your ears would feel the sound blast half a mile away.
i volunteer there and if you fired the 16inch guns you would shatter all nthe windows in a half a mile and set off all the car alarms as well as damage the ship cause it is anchored to massive piers
@DragonsREpic Yes I do think so too. Don't know why we still have a royal family in Sweden. They don't have any political power, but cost A LOT of money.
Would love to see those big guns 16's doing a 21 gun salute. But where this ship sits now - the big guns would break windows within 2 mile radius from just the blast.
I was driving by when they let the first shot go, Snapped me right to attention! That was so cool that they did this. thank you to everyone who served out country.
Actually all four props were on the ship until the drydock in Boston in '98. They took the outer two off during drydocking to help with watertight integrity. The two that were removed are now on display at Battleship Cove in Fall River MA. She still has her two inboard props for when I get her running for her 2045 victory tour! ;) I volunteer onboard and would be happy to answer any questions about Her.
I was the gun captain on a 5”54 in Vietnam. Good times.
@dirtbiker1445 The propellant used to fire 16 inch main battery guns, (rifles in on a ship), is Cordite. Cordite replaced black powder in military applications in the late 1800's.
My husband is an old Navy man and loves to watch this.
Actually Mastercorder. It was the USS Washington (BB-56) that put a hurting on the IJN Kirishima. USS South Dakota was damaged by IJN Kirishima's 14 inch main and 5 inch secondary guns. While Kirishima was concentrating on USS South Dakota Kirishima did not realize that USS Washington was closing on her. USS Washington open fired. Kirishima was struck by nine 16 inch and numerous 5 inch shells. Kirishima was scuttled by her crew. this happened at the Second Battle of Guadalcanal
i remember sleeping on the Massachusetts with my fellow boy scouts i was told i was the only one able to get sleep
Great video, I was there standing right behind where you were lol. I took a very similar video with my small camera. That was an awesome day.
We had a blast.
@HaloCE14 The 16's use kegs of blackpowder. They can easily be fired just using powder, howbeit, they only need to use 1 keg instead of the multiples used behind a shell. The shop owners would not appreciate the possible broken windows.
@michael225q There were in fact bits and pieces removed from the memorial battleships when the IOWAs were reactivated in the 80s. They were used as spares, or in cases where condition justified it replacement.
@werdup6 To set things straight... The South Dakota Class battleships had (have) mark 6, 16" 45 caliber naval rifles. They fired the mark 8 2700 lb. armor piercing shell about 23 miles with accuracy. There are no modern warships that could withstand a direct hit from one of these guns. 16"/11"GPS guided, discarding sabot rounds were test-fitted to the IOWA class prior to their retirement in the early 90s. These shells had a range of around 100 miles but were not operational prior to retirement.
Probably because they were too cheap, posed a threat to cruise missiles for being so easy to produce and cheap.
Have been there many times and did not know they ever fired any guns. Is this a yearly event, I would like to get down there next time.
This raises a question I've had for a long time. I didn't think the 5" were still around in firing condition. They were special dual purpose guns that, I thought, became largely obsolete at end of WWII. With jets coming on, the AA half of the dual purpose was foiled. They weren't designed to keep up with jets. But here they are blasting away. Maybe special made ceremonial blanks. I'd love to talk to an old WWII sailor who manned these. I don't know how they kept up with planes THEN.
i know that the modern Coast guard cutters are armed with a gun that i think to be this size although i'm not 100% also if they are i figure that the coast guards version is more of a rapid fire one for dealing with smugglers and stuff of that sort.
Smaller, they arnt 5 inch guns probably 3inch or smaller.
@Mastercorder they're blank ... never heard of a live round gun salute for an occasion like this
This has to be at a museum.This ship been retired.The USS Arleigh Burke and USS Zumwalt are the newest ships in use now.
Taylen Deen
Was launched October 28th 2013 been pride to Navy since.And it has weapons called missiles and guns that lower in pods too.The Zumwalt Destroyers guns raise and lower so they are not really seen unless in use
they are like dissapearing guns
+Garrett MacDonald they have a sub and a small destroyer. they have a few planes on display as well. great place to visit
Yeah, when the 16 inch guns fire, the boat rocks and the sound would make anyone within 10 feet deaf for a couple weeks. Lets leave it at 5!
I remember during the discontinued event “Fall River Celebrates America” they had a fireworks show, and before and after the show we’d hear and see a gun salute from the battleship. I’m sure at the time it was the 16”. One year it came from one of the front turrets, and and year the rear or aft turret. I don’t think it was a real gun shot, I think it was mor like a pyro shot. Back in the day those 16” gun turrets would be loaded with 6 bags of Black gun powder. It was a lot of work getting those guns to fire a boom. And cleaning up after took a long time.
Pinchy08 one of those 16 inch guns on the second turret now missing, the turret was overstuffed with black powder bags and it blew killing 47 instantly. April 19,1989 I could be wrong but the month and year I know for sure.
Pickleman on the second turret there was an third the crew there were putting black powder bags then boom instantly died. 47 lost their lives. April 19 I wanna say, 1989 I know for sure and the month.
@@pinchy08 They propane to do that. An Actual firing of just one barrel would blow windows for 2 mile radius around the ship. The windows on the bridge were removable so that they didnt shatter them.
Yeah...i can’t find anything about them ever having fired a 16in gun on ANY battleship in port during peacetime with or without propane.
Although I do feel like I’ve seen such a video of a simulated firing on the USS Iowa.
And the turret explosion you’re referencing was also on the Iowa, not the Massachusetts.
Edit: I found the video I was thinking of.
It was a pyrotechnic shot and it was on the Iowa
ruclips.net/video/dd2TH4JKlR8/видео.html
Thumbs up if you explored inside the 16s turrets!
@Robkat3751 Nitrocellulose. In pellets about the size of 12 gauge shotgun shells... A small black powder charge ignites the 110 lb bags of nitrocellulose.
@PeteOF I'm going to hold you to that promise!!!!!!!!!!!!! When I visited Big Mamie about 15 years ago the Exec Director told me the "engineers" were threatening to light off the boilers. I loved hearing that!
Well, they had special AA shells that had Proximity Fuses. So it could be useful against Jets coming straight at it instead of flying towards the side.
@Mastercorder I never heard of a battleship Hiroshima. I did some research. I found nothing on a battleship with that name. However, I discovered that the maximum range of a 16"/50-cal would be 39,895 yards (+/- 19.6976 n.m.); the maximum altitude 11,981 yards, projectile: 1900-pound. Would there be a veteran around caring to give us some reliable info? I would be honored. Anyway, thanks for making me curious.
@werdup6 Design called for explosive charge. Keep in mind, they did not have the design finalized, but there are pics of the mock up shells being struck down to the magazines for fitment testing. My best understanding from extremely informed personnel is there were no severe technical hurdles left, only political. BTW, I'm not aware of any DD at Samar surviving a hit from the YAMATO or MUSASHI or any other BB...
discarding sabots are kinetic only. they fragment upon penetration and destroy everything inside when used against a tank
These guns were used to pound enemies by just hammering away at the surface
These Dual Purpose guns as the where called, could also load HE AA ammunition, to fire at far away incoming aircraft. They where radar guided, and once the shells where away, they whould explode in the air, leaving pehind a black cloud of shrapnell, lethal for the plane and the pilot.
I imagine someone making a huge mistake during this and saying... oh shit... that was a live round
I was there one year for this. Nothing matches the sound in person. You don’t get that echo off the opposite shore in videos.
BA-BOOM (ba-boom)
BA-BOOM (ba-boom)
How did they ever get PERMITS in Mass to be allowed to fire those guns?
blanks...they are most likely half charge blanks...the 5 inch guns have a massive boom is there was a shell...
Wouldn't do any harm if they loaded a full powder bag instead of using cut down blanks. The civil war reinactor used cannon with a full bag shot but no projectile, your ears would feel the sound blast half a mile away.
@KittyRokher I believe it is cities.
@DragonsREpic How do you mean? I don't understand.
In Sweden 21 salutes is only to salute the king,
Awesome.
i volunteer there and if you fired the 16inch guns you would shatter all nthe windows in a half a mile and set off all the car alarms as well as damage the ship cause it is anchored to massive piers
@DragonsREpic Yes I do think so too. Don't know why we still have a royal family in Sweden. They don't have any political power, but cost A LOT of money.
nice
I couldn't be that close
nice.
Wow!
Would love to see those big guns 16's doing a 21 gun salute. But where this ship sits now - the big guns would break windows within 2 mile radius from just the blast.
It would also make anyone within 20 feet deaf for a couple of weeks! Lol
Well the way Congress 535 listens to the people they would hear it.
uhhh... try dead. the concussive force would be enough to kill them. at 50 or so feet, deafen
@JustWickedSwede WTF I THOUGHT MONARCHY WAS OWNED? is this still considered the middle ages?
dude u could fit into a 16' inch, heres your sign
@JustWickedSwede what i mean is i thought monarchy was a thing of the past
These aren’t 5” shells . I doubt it .
They are 5 inch guns but they are firing blanks obviously
i see well now i know.
a LOT louder.
Dummy rounds . But what a mess to clean up.
Not dummy rounds, blanks. No cleaning other then the insides of the guns.
hold the camera still !
Howabour you go and hold a camera during shockwaves from cannon fire.
#Liltay🎈📀🎈 C
Take your hats off, shut up, and stop moving. The disrespect people have today....