Stupid Things OLD COPS Told Me
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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My aunt retired CPD
My other aunt retired Cook Co SD
Uncle USAF MP
Other Uncle USMC Infantry then security manager 20 plus years
Grandfather US Army MP and night watchman pt when retires
Best friend CPD 14 years
Cousin CPD
I was Army Infantry, A.A. crim justice, 3 years security.....decided not get into law enforcement. Maybe 30 years ago, not today.....not with what law enforcement has to deal with now.
My mother's life was saved by a police officer who had just completed an "optional" CPR/First Aid course only 2 weeks earlier. This happened in Tallahassee, Florida in 1979.
I'm a bouncer and we had a top up on first aid etc... I am living with some friends and his baby girl chocked with a piece of apple and was turning blue...he panicked and was dangling her upside down by one leg. I did the "horsey" maneuver and slapped her back a couple of times, somewhat hard for a 1 year old. She vomited a piece of apple, small one, and a lot of her own dreul that had gotten thick...I'm glad I knew that.
lol "people will shoot at your weapon light", "be prepared for firefights in parking lots", "in melee just bite them", looks like the 80s and 90s were pretty wild.
The 80s and 90s is also when the old reliable revolver was being replaced by the newfangled semiautos. New technology is scary to old folks.
@Filipino Operator damn that’s old. But tbh it doesn’t sound like that bad of a setup, you may just have to practice more with light in one hand and pistol in the other.
17 years ago “glocks will melt and it’s stupid to have a weapon light”
Present. Glocks are the most popular law enforcement handgun, weapon lights are more common than not......and red dots too 😂
About 2yr ago, 2020 era, I had a Orlando area county sheriff downplay the "new" rear optic sights. He claimed "gun fights are fast & you won't have the ability to aim a big scope. 🤔 .... He had a SIG Sauer P320 in a SAS-drop leg holster.
Remember when they said Glocks could go through metal detectors? Lol
Drug dealers often drive rentals so the same car isn’t repeatedly spotted in the same spots over and over. Rentals typically are nice and new.
Breaks out back window and showers newborn rear facing car-seat in the face, eyes, and open mouth breathing/crying . So glad you are willing to put your face out there and say what you say. Thank you.
I started 16 years ago. A LOT has changed in policing. Here are some of the things I was told that I found not to be true based on personal experience.
1. No need for a patrol rifle. My how the world has changed. We all have them now.
2. If you didn't write it down, it didn't happen. Body cams killed that nonsense. Your footage will be played in trial.
3. Carry a baton. Nope. used mine once in 16 years and wasn't that effective. Don't even carry one. I carry a glass breaker for windows. They work better anyway.
4.Tasers are the weapon of the future. Nope. Don't work most of the time. I have had way more success from OC.
5. Always charge high and let the court ammend. Nope. Much less work if you just follow the statute and charge correctly.
6. Pursuits are a must. Nope. Been in many and not worth chasing unless it's a serious felony. Good way to stay in law suits.
7. Everybody will sue you. Nope. If you do what you're supposed to, most defense attorneys won't even take the case.
8. Class A uniforms and look professional. That has went out the window. Academy had us shine shoes and press uniforms. Cops don't do it anymore. Most look like they are on SWAT nowadays.
9. Always carry a Miranda card. Nope. Have it memorized and with body cams, never had an attorney question my Miranda warning from memory. I did special victims for a while and conducted hundreds of interviews. Never a problem.
We had flip phones issued when I started and we always had to carry them so that's not changed.
".... and putting the Habeus Grabus on em"
Ahahahaha I don't know why, but that just killed me. Never heard it till now but it's one of those off the wall things you hear and it immediately just. You get it.. and 🤣😅😂 I'm freaking dead.
Amazing
Been in LE since 1980. A several of these were imparted to me as a new guy back then.
Just got into the academy. Start in 2 weeks. Great info here!
He‘s veeeery conservative, so anything political he says must be taken with a huge rock of salt.
@@brushemteeth9159 why? It's his experience
@@brushemteeth9159 bruh have you met ANY police officers personally lol
@@homeslice4551 Being a police officer does not provide you experience or qualifications on political decisions. Especially because police officers have a very narrow view on social issues and usually do not verify their assumptions through scientific research or try to see the bigger picture.
@@brushemteeth9159 You must be one of those that's going say next "I'm not a biologist and I don't know what a Woman is." right?
I remember the ask, tell, make method. lol, thats gone and forgoten about.
I was taught AT and T Ask them Tell them, Take them down.... ✔
I'm only a little over 3 years on the job and the whole "no cellphones" thing blows my mind. Not only can I not count how many times dispatch asked me to call down because of certain calls they didn't want to broadcast over the radio but there's many spots in my town where our portable radios won't hit the repeater and get out and there's situations where I can't always go back to the vehicle and use the mobile radio that has better reach and a cell phone became a life saver. Probably literally to be honest.
I work as a security guard at a casino, and yesterday we had a guy lock himself in the bathroom stall refusing to come out because he “shoved deer feed up his ass to stop the diarrhea”
Wtf
An old timer told me wearing a vest is more dangerous than not wearing a vest.
Wow, I couldn't imagine not having on my vest.
Oh my God!! Are you kidding me lolllll
I heard this too from a old state topper in Florida back in like 1999 lol
I need to no why he thought that
There was one incident where a sheriff deputy was shot during a traffic stop, the round entered right below the vest at an upward angle and "bounced" off the rear armor panel and back into the body causing double the damage (and yes this was soft armor). Of course this is like arguing seat belts are not safe by citing the few time individuals wearing seat belts died while the one not wearing a seat belt lived.
You should collab with Officer 401
I work campus safety and a lot of this knowledge definitely applies. Keep it up Free Field Training 👍
Nobody asked
Always making interesting videos that open the mindset of younger law enforcement officers. Thanks!
Been watching your videos recently, I'm applying to my local highest patrol in a couple months once I qualify. Thanks for providing a lot of information and preparation!
Damn Tommy, almost 17yrs. I'm positive the only one I've ever told you was write less in your reports, but only on what I termed the "bullshit" cases that didn't matter and wouldn't get investigated. I did towards the end pretty much think everything was bullshit, but in CC that's probably even more true now.
In regards to the light rule, 1 of my teachers use to be a security guard (I think at a hospital, though I could be wrong) and during training, he was told something somewhat similar. His instructor told him to hold his light over his head and to the left or right (depending on which hand he was using), or basically to just have it away from his head and torso. Reason being that on the off chance he got shot at, the shooter would go for the general area of where the light was and he'd have less of a chance of being hit. Or at the very least, less chance of the hit being fatal, or something to that effect. And in regards to the cell phone thing, though I disagree on an officer not having 1 (they should have had them), the reasoning does make sense when it comes to getting attacked while clearing. And with the take down thing, a couple of martial arts instructors I've talked to basically said the same thing you did. It's not a bad idea to learn (or try to learn) a number of take down moves, but focus on a max of 3 to 4 ways that you're good at. Love the vid. Hadn't watched your channel in a while & this popped up. Gonna try to start watching regularly again and go back to see what I missed.
Oh, and edited to add, this is gonna sound kinda weird and possibly kinda dumb, but what you said about having a bunch of tools on you also applies in video games. "Let me see, I have a shotgun, sniper rifle, an M4, 3 different hand guns, 5 melee wea. . . oh I'm dead. . . SSSHHHIIITTT!!!" Lmao. Not trying to compare real life to video games, but that is definitely a similarity.
Sounds like half-life vs. a more tactical shooter like ready or not.
The way you said 16 years 😄 hang in there buddy almost done.
Ps has anyone ever seen a use of force incident where a LEO used a knife?
I’ve heard there has never been one.
That's probably for the best. I can only imagine the bs that would come from it nowadays
A knife won’t stop a threat right away, even most times, it takes multiple gunshot wounds to stop someone who’s determined
@@santoscortes9656 yes sir takes time to drop that blood pressure
I have heard of one somewhere in the south, maybe Texas? I’ll try to find a source and report back.
6:38 also if god forbid you get into an incident like that most tier 1 military guys will tell you to peek out the side of cover instead of over it whevever possible, engine block for example, you can peek, pie, all that good stuff, if you have to look over it you end up being real exposed real quick
Much love and respect for Tommy
The medical thing is interesting because from what I understand, my department like 10-20 years ago actually use to have everyone cross trained as EMTs, but they went away from that because it started causing too many issues, like officers responding to and getting tied up on medicals they weren't necessarily needed for when regular medical could of handled it.
just finished DT with an instructor that kept it out simple but versatile. Hearing you mention be skilled at a smaller amount of holds/restraints, handcuffing, escorting etc
Great list. Use a pay phone. That was funny.
I'm a vet. I was averse to weapon light for a long time. My thought was light = target. Took me a long time to get over that one.
Can we get a video on defensive tactics?
For the tinted windows aspect, could it be argued that by the time you get close enough to penetrate the tint with light to see inside, you would have already been shot through the window? Takedowns are great, but they dont always work as intended due to many aspects.
Awesome video! All my testing is done and I’ll be finding out early May if I’m selected for the police academy, can’t wait!
Agree completely with no.1. A quote that's often attributed to Bruce Lee: "I'm not afraid of the man who has practiced 10,000 different kicks. I'm affraid of the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times."
Not a police officer. Worked in hospital security for 8 years but was an explorer in high school and I definitely remember hearing some of these things on ride alongs lol. Great video as always! Keep them coming.
Great video, thanks for sharing!
I always questioned why police should cite tinted windows. Really never cared someone had tinted windows on their car and I was never going to make the decision to self-initiate a traffic stop on a car I couldn’t see very well into. Not worth it in my opinion, unless the car had to be stopped based on info received from a call (ie matching description of a suspect vehicle from a robbery). I’m glad you mentioned the tint. Great video! 👍👍
Agree about it being a great video. And I concur with your tinted window sentiments too.👍
Glad to see some different thinking and also from hearing your experiences I could never do that job. More power to ya
I love my job, even on the bad days, it beats the hell out of flipping burgers. A 14 hour shift after a 2 hour nap after working an 8 is not abnormal. Still worth it
Thanks!
Good stuff. When I started we did not have cages in our cars, crooks transported in the right front seat. Accordion style stop sticks that were as big as a suitcase were kept, only at the office. 4 D call mag lites with the extra bulb in the tail cap…. 40 lumens maybe… haha. Retired 4 years ago and never looked back. Keep up the super videos
Some really good advice
My BIL was In Military, Medical, PA (Person who sees patients for/under Dr. authority). In TX when he bought new car. Knowing he was going to MN in a few years. He got MN legal tint.
Well in MN he kept getting pulled over in scrubs, headed to work, back weird hours. His wife had to trade cars, so she brought it into official check place. They agreed it was well into legal. Ticket dismissed. Pulled over couple days later. “I don’t care you have paperwork, with vin…. It’s a illegal tint. You will remove it”. Rinse, repeat. Same Officers pull him over, ticket him, it gets dismissed.
Finally he admitted defeat. Had it removed, a very lite tint put on. The Officer pulled him over, checked. That was it. This was @1990
You are actually a police officer in real life but you still have so much respect for the private sector now I know you used to do security I'm not sure I think you still do on the side but the fact that you moved on to be a police officer that's when people start looking down at security officers the fact that you don't do that and you keep it 100 with everybody I respect you so much I learned a lot from your videos thank you very much for everything that you do I appreciate the fact that you take the time to make these videos they are very educating and I've learned a lot from you I myself do security I am a level 3 private security officer I am an armed guard that would love to win a set of handcuffs or anything of that matter your videos are amazing please keep them coming thank you for everything!
Quite the run-on sentence.
I have been using the Gardian Angel for 3 months now on overnights. Great suggestion and I love this hands free device! Watching you for 4 years and it's paid off. Thank you for guiding me brother!
Great video!
When I was out of high school I drove a clunker for a while, and yes got pulled over frequently because of the look of the faded paint and no hub caps. Now I have a new F-150 and I notice they rarely look at me… like I can do 10 over sometimes and …. Nothing happens… I don’t suggest spending!
I enjoy your videos.
Love the melting Glock theory.
Great commentary. Thanks for putting this together. I've grown to a fan of this channel even as a civilian.
It’s crazy how much policing has changed and hopefully it will continue to improve
Hilarious, I have heard all of these multiple times in my career!! Great video
Man, those old school bulls that were on the streets way back in the late 70's when I started out were something else....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
S&W revolvers were standard issue with spare ammo carried in the archaic drop pouches. One night the Sergeant decided to do weapons inspection at Roll Call and also check everyone's spare ammo. One guy popped open his dump pouch & 2 rounds of ammo and about a buck fifty in change fell out into his palm 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Those old guys were also bad about using the barrel of the vertically mounted shotgun in their patrol cars as an ashtray...
Sounds like Sound Advice from the OG’s.
I'm very interested in any sort of handcuffing techniques you may be able to share.
Yep that whole car tint thing. My car came tinted from the factory. Ford stangv-6 $teel. Pull me over for some trash like that.
Great video Tommy
Thanks for another great video.
Things old cops will tell you that AREN'T stupid - don't trust your bosses. (I got 31 years)
Don't trust your bosses? Then stick to what your clown friends say.
As always, very informative. Thank you, Tommy.
People actually thought a Glock would melt in a car because it's plastic? Meanwhile 99% of your cars interior is also plastic! 😂🤦♂️ My god
Very entertaining video
I make about 65k a year, no kids - I drive a 2001 Chevy Caviler; a 22 year old car. Don't judge a driver by their vehicle.
A lot of people who drive nice cars have either $0 or negative net worth and a lien on the car, using earned employee income to make the payments ..
the 'financially ignorant' formula for owning a good car. So without a doubt, you're right-one can't be judged by their vehicle.
Yup I'm in GA. We accept everything in a giveaway lol
Easy fix, my flashlight is only 100lumens and a subject has tinted windows. Pa system, ROLL DOWN UR WINDOWS. problem solves. Seem like ppl have gotten smart over time to
Yes!!! On the last one, I could not agree more. Real criminals try very hard not to stand out. The sooner you start looking for criminal behavior and stop looking for shitbox cars, the better. Good stuff man. Been around since before I was a LEO and going to FTO school next month, awesome advice as always!
Yep, I've heard every one of these.
Just hit my 17 in April Bro. I’m down here in Texas, so I’ve got it good……be safe up there in Chi Town.
Excellent video! Thanks for the great content.
Tinted windows are fine - everyone has them in the Southwest. But it should be mandatory that BOTH front windows are fully down when an officer approaches. Doesn't matter what the weather is like. Anybody who disagrees should watch the video of Officer Duran with the New Mexico State Police.
Number 3: Drink, Smoke AND have a Mustache!
Started in 2010. I was driving a 1992 camry. I was told the same about shitty cars equal shitty driver. Always found shitty cars were high school students.
Good Stuff
that happened to me at my job. old guys telling me out of date guidance
Can’t say I agree with everything you said but I still enjoy your videos.
There used to be height requirements for LEOs???
I enlisted in the US Army 1989, 95B, MP. My Army recruiter said Army standards for MPs was 5'11" min. I was 6'00.
Keep them coming and stay safe my friend
Love the videos man be safe out there!
Awesome content as always, keep up the good work.
When you were talking about batons, you showee a very small wooden baton, where did you get that
I love your videos! Always so interesting
I'm glad police officers use their cellphone's on the job now because we have some gorgeous basketweave holsters for their duty belts!
Okay, backup guns are still a silly option, sorry. I carry a fixed blade push dagger, but I’m starting to think that’s silly too. Find me one incident in the last 5 years that a backup gun has been used effectively, and I find you 5 incidents of backup guns being a liability. The primary reason I carry a sidearm is to fight back to my rifle. If I go on a call where weapons are involved, before I show on scene, I will have my rifle ready. But then again, I cut my teeth in the military and fighting with a rifle is much more comfortable to me. That’s something the most cops lack in, rifle fighting. When I went through my police academy they didn’t even teach us to use a rifle, that fell back on our agency, and the agencies didn’t do a very good job of teaching it. if you wanna be an effective cop, learn how to fight with a Rifle.
Just getting into law enforcement and surprising this was perceived as good advice back in the day.
Great video
Great video and very educational! Thanks for the opportunity to win
I really liked this video. I know some of these things are still said by the guys on my department and I'm glad some ideas are being phased out!
I still like the notion that you have to tap the taillight of a car on a traffic stop, I've tried to pull prints off of them as practice, it's nearly impossible, especially with any dirt or dust that kicks up behind a car after routine driving.
There are some really good reasons not to have a personal cell phone with on you duty, but that's more to do with the vulnerability from socal media location tracking and friend recommendations.
We are starting to encounter organised crime groups that have the ablity to launch "man in the middle" attacks to compromise phones and protect safe houses with IMSI grabbers.
Times change but law enforcement moves forward in circles.
That sounds really complex for criminals to be using. Like crime television kinda stuff
The documentation thing is crazy, as well as the cell phone. Same time frame, in Wyoming, I was told "If you don't write it down, it never happened. Document everything, even if it hurts the case you are building, DOCUMENT EVERYTHING!"
Back up gun, better have been a Glock, and you better have a knife. Also my department put us through EMT training because, we're the first units on scene.
My LT had a blackjack in his car. All of us had tasers. We only had cruiser cams, no MDT's so writing a report meant going back to the station and hoping your favorite cubicle was open so you can get on the computer and write your reports.
Heard and doubted a few of these myths from the old timers in the academy.
Thank you for the midnight songs
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Just applied to the police department in march! Hopefully I get the job! Definitely excited. Hopefully I’m not to late for the give away too! Your videos are helpful as well
These are great, LE is a very traditional and often slow moving girls when it comes to adopting new tactics and mindset. Makes me think about what is being done now that will seem ridiculous in 5 or 10 years.
Interesting Video Tommy! I would love anything in the giveaway!
I appreciate your videos. They were very informative and helpful to me.
My instructors were still hard up on the window tint thing. Ridiculous. On the other hand I got in trouble for not having my phone on me recently.
As always, great video friend. Thanks for what you do.
Blackjack behind the knee. Those memories !
In 2005 when you were in the academy I was barely in first grade! lol
we would hear a lot as teens in the late 00s and early 10s about how anyone with two phones was a drug lord or something, was this a commonly perception in law enforcment or just something from a TV show that went mainstream?
Tommy great video's.
Awesome video. Thanks
Love the content Tommy!