Thanks for this overview. I noticed one or two things, but then I noticed this video was uploaded in 2012, so they will already have been taken care of.
With only a few minor adjustments I'll need to personally make to my SL experience, I LOVE the phoenix skin. I was holding out for the tabbed chat option and now I have it!!! I'm so excited about this I'm now zooming around the grid experiencing mesh for the first time. Kudos to the Firestorm team for making this happen
hey, just wanted to say that thanks for being amazing and creating an awesome and super flexible viewer. Maybe not everything is perfect and there are some things that people won't like, but still, you guys rock! As a builder, I depend on Firestorm to allow me to do things that the Linden viewer doesn't, so thanks a million and keep on rocking.
I LOVE the firestorm server for SL...I just downloaded the new update and I LOVE it already, the video I used basicaly to customize my look for starlight cui. I was actually afraid to update because i'v actually been in SL since 2006 and I think i'v only been using firestorm for less then a year because its so hard to change from v1 to the v2 version when i'm soo used to it. I'm really glad u came out with firestorm!
I LOVE IT!!! I loved the idea to recolor the buttons! Tho, i would prefer to use the Firestorm or Hybrid with this option aswell... I heard on the vid. you guys are going to make it on the other viewers so i gotta wait till there. Keep the awsome job! :D
@erotomatic Just because you don't care about it, doesn't mean it doesn't matter. Some people DO care about it, so we're grateful she's taken the time to explain.
so can i move the position of the IM and Group notices icon? because the top right position conflicts with my minimap location, and its alternate bottom right location conflicts with my AO hud.
As much as I love the feel and placement of the vi vintage skin the colours are hard on my eyes. Is there a way to reproduce the vi1 style chat bar on top of the buttons without using the classic skin?
Já estou testando essa versão ha algum tempo e já é hora dos usuários esquecerem o Phoenix e partirem de uma vez para o Firestorm. Esta é uma versão bem adaptável ao seu jeito de usar.
I like the dark skin for Firestorm, but miss the fiery-coloured buttons skin and red-orange tags for the Phoenix Viewer. Any way to include that fiery skin for an update for Firestorm?
THANK YOU ! Thank you for adding the Poenix looking like skin to this version :) I so hope Phoenix lovers will switch on it so i can at last wear my mesh hair and those lovely little boots which actually stay in my inventory, because I'm so pissed to be told I'm bald or have no legs... Great job, love & hugs xxx
all due respect; whose decision was it to change the "toaster" position from v3.3 (where they are neatly docked at bottom) to v4.0.1 (where they are either 1/2" from bottom/top)? I use weapons in sl and I find misc, out of place icons/menus distracting. With all these fui customizations why couldn't there have been one to either; a) disable/enable toasters altogether b) change default location (top, right/left, bottom, left/right)?
Thank you very much for Your work ! If i would only have the Linden Lab Viewer.. i would Leave Second Life. Iam an SL Citizen since 2007 THANK YOU FOR THE V1 LOOK !
Sweet. This actually looks nice even at release. It's not extremely difficult to create your own elements either (unless they changed something lol). I was just about to upgrade, perfect timing for an announcement so I didn't have to go through configuration twice this week :P. Hopefully some of those performance improvements make this viable as main grid client. Can't wait.
"Congratz & special thanks" to the Team for all your efforts to build this FUI Version for "old" users like me. as i am since 2007 in SL and as i never was a friend of the new Linden Viewers because it was so confusing + made it dificult for me with constructions & to build things, this Firestorm FUI is the 1st "new" viewer im Happy with after the Big Viewer Changes from LL and introducing all the new "2.0 Viewer things..." (now i can leave Phoenix and start to use Firestorm in the Future) Thx
Switched skin to Silverlight Blue. The search window is all messed up and completely unusable, although I don't know if that's due to the skin. And how can I move those floating icons in the top right, back down next to the toolbars where they're less obtrusive? Can't find anything in the preferences. Also, how about a v1 silver skin like Phoenix has?
@profvrobinson Sorry, but the coders are a bunch of volunteers with no obligations. Providing a support video is already an extra service for the userbase. However, did you try RUclips's own captioning beta? It looks fairly decent, except for some odd weirdness like Hitomi's name.
I use this viewer with my students... all of whom are deaf. I'd like to send them to this video to explain the new viewer but where are the captions? I get why people who are posting videos of their puppies don't caption, but you're a company, right? Attention to accessibility would be appreciated. Thanks.
Loving so many things such as but miss the locking sidebars and agree that the IM chat in the upper right is a mess when I have a lot of convos going. Also the new non-locked inventory, outfits, places, etc obscure incoming notices when open and I can't always close them fast enouh to see what I missed. Also why are open IM/Group chats duplicated on left side in a different format? Nice workk guys but please fix the lock that you were so proud of in v3. Loved it.
Does this viewer have the new Merchant Outbox to upload items onto SLMarketplace? LL are getting rid of Magic Boxes very soon and everything is going "Direct Delivery" and for this we need the Merchant Outbox. I have tried the normal SL Viewer but nothing loads for me at all =/
hello, I've been using Phoenix 1.5.2.1102 and was gonna update to the recent phoenix. However my friend said that change to firestorm as u guys gonna phase out phoenix. I tried it and sort of ok and I use the Phoenix skin which are familiar to me. but I wonder if I can make name of AV in nearby same window in the nearby chat because i find it hard to know who is around. opening the People window is not practical to me, is there something i can do to change this or is it permanent? thanks!
What's your choice in Preferences > Chat > "Show IMs in:" (second line from the bottom) ... seperate windows or tabs? Sounds like you got seperate windows running, but you want tabs.
Could someone PLEASE help me! I want to remove the chat icon thingers that appear in the top right corner when you've entered an IM with someone. I find it REALLY annoying.
For those who as me like and are used to the previous Firestorm settings and skin, select settings as Phoenix and skin to Firestorm. The buttons look a bit diffrent as above But at least its Close !!
Im having the same problem.. mine keep separating from the other converstaions and then I have like 5 different windows open talking to people .. a mess !
I respect the work & improvements, but I do find myself having to click, drag, move things about now much more than before. Sidebar for me was quick, easy & tidy in which it just took a couple clicks to get where I wanted. I wish they had implimented a V2 sidebar option at login, but for now im sticking to FS 1.2.3
That video is encouraging for updating to FS 4 - I always worry everything is going to change too much to be worth the bother of a clean reinstall when basically right now everything works great and does what I want so why change? - but I'm a little worried about the top comment about IMs which can't be moved. Only my friend who uses FS 4 says she can.
TY TY TY TY ! The Phoenix skin is great. It was the UI on the V2 & V3 that nagged me big time so Ill DL this Firestorm and give it a go in SL. Still hoping you guys will work with OS grids *cough* InWorldz *cough* ;) Im using Phoenix in IW and even if its buggy at times (certain things I cant use Phoenix for and are forced to switch to other viewer) I refuse to let it go. Would be wonderful if you wanted to work with the other grid devs :))
I like this new version but things are very slow to rezz, everything seems to load slow and everywhere I go even with no one but me on the sim seems laggy n choppy. I don't have this issue with other viewes or previous versions of FireStorm.
Um,..it the new Firestorm only about changes in the looks,buttons,n skins,etc? No new things we can do inworld? Like more stuff with our avatars or inventories,etc.If it's all about buttons n skins,I'll pass.I am fine with the Firestorm I have. I'm not worried about the colors n shaopes of my buttons or where they are sitting.
I have to agree with that last comment. I watched this video hoping to find out how to move the IM boxes back down to where they were previously. I don't care for them at the top at all.
@xaos32 Same here xaos, for me sidebar was quick, easy and clean. I started sl on V2 and for me, sidebar just seemed to be perfect. Oh well, look's like i'm gonna be using a outdated viewer for a long time now.
okay people this is a free viewer that they are trying to give as an option and I am sure they appreciate the input if you do not like the viewer don't use it and it is still a beta remember. I dont get why some people put them down for something that they are doing for free, jeez some of ya'll need some help.
i am sorry the only reason i wont change is i am so use to phoenix viewer i know its old but its how it is i dont like to lose the buttons and the way i know things on there :)
the lag is being caused by the old firestorm viewer your using LL's secondlife viewer will run much better then that old firestorm.. about the new firestorm... i have not tried it yet Restrained love viewer also runs better xD
I dont get it. For me, a viewer should be just like a tool, like a slave to the game. And a tool needs some kind of continuity so it becomes familiar and the work will go easy and save. But this release is like a hammer that you know well but overnight it changes into a screwdriver. The viewer seems to be the star role and not the game itself. Next we need to say: Hey, lets play Viewer! Its soo cool how it can look and uhm the buttons! Oh now yellow buttons, great uhm wow, green too! Pffff...
That was 13 minutes of my life I can't get back...13 minutes talking about "buttons." Is that all you have to offer to entice me to use Firestorm? What other features are there in this version? Is it more stable than the last version? Does the textures load properly than last viewer release? What about the build features? Do we get multiple layers for jackets and so on. These are all questions to answer, but instead of answering them, you wasted 13 minutes of my time talking about buttons.
i dont know.. even i dont like it and this new viewer hangs whit me in a sesion of 3 hours 5 times. That im i cannot replace.. that suck Please Firestorm before you release some. work first out ore it is stabil. and dont chance old good working views.. that IM on your top.. take it away.
Thanks for this overview. I noticed one or two things, but then I noticed this video was uploaded in 2012, so they will already have been taken care of.
I don't think I would be in SL anymore if it wasn't for you and all your great work. Thanks so much
With only a few minor adjustments I'll need to personally make to my SL experience, I LOVE the phoenix skin. I was holding out for the tabbed chat option and now I have it!!! I'm so excited about this I'm now zooming around the grid experiencing mesh for the first time. Kudos to the Firestorm team for making this happen
THANK YOU for giving options back to the user! you can never have too many customization options!
hey, just wanted to say that thanks for being amazing and creating an awesome and super flexible viewer. Maybe not everything is perfect and there are some things that people won't like, but still, you guys rock! As a builder, I depend on Firestorm to allow me to do things that the Linden viewer doesn't, so thanks a million and keep on rocking.
I LOVE the firestorm server for SL...I just downloaded the new update and I LOVE it already, the video I used basicaly to customize my look for starlight cui. I was actually afraid to update because i'v actually been in SL since 2006 and I think i'v only been using firestorm for less then a year because its so hard to change from v1 to the v2 version when i'm soo used to it. I'm really glad u came out with firestorm!
I LOVE IT!!! I loved the idea to recolor the buttons! Tho, i would prefer to use the Firestorm or Hybrid with this option aswell... I heard on the vid. you guys are going to make it on the other viewers so i gotta wait till there. Keep the awsome job! :D
@erotomatic Just because you don't care about it, doesn't mean it doesn't matter. Some people DO care about it, so we're grateful she's taken the time to explain.
Thanks to your entire team for this viewer, we appreciate it!
I'm watching and I need aplauses the Phoenix Team, Is just amazing see the blue buttons there again! Congrats!! and Thank you very much!
@allistear Did you try to bring up the chat history with ctrl+h and then see if there's the docking icon in the top line of that window?
Thank you- thank you- thank you! *HUGS* to all you Firestorm/Phoenix Devs for all your volunteered time and efforts!!
Thank you Jessica, your tutorials really help.
so can i move the position of the IM and Group notices icon? because the top right position conflicts with my minimap location, and its alternate bottom right location conflicts with my AO hud.
As much as I love the feel and placement of the vi vintage skin the colours are hard on my eyes. Is there a way to reproduce the vi1 style chat bar on top of the buttons without using the classic skin?
Já estou testando essa versão ha algum tempo e já é hora dos usuários esquecerem o Phoenix e partirem de uma vez para o Firestorm. Esta é uma versão bem adaptável ao seu jeito de usar.
I like the dark skin for Firestorm, but miss the fiery-coloured buttons skin and red-orange tags for the Phoenix Viewer. Any way to include that fiery skin for an update for Firestorm?
Thank you, I love the customization feautures, and Firestorm in general. I have no issues with it.
Thanks again.
THANK YOU ! Thank you for adding the Poenix looking like skin to this version :) I so hope Phoenix lovers will switch on it so i can at last wear my mesh hair and those lovely little boots which actually stay in my inventory, because I'm so pissed to be told I'm bald or have no legs... Great job, love & hugs xxx
Did you try Preferences > User Interface > uncheck checkbox for "Group notices and chiclets in top right"? Then restart the viewer?
all due respect; whose decision was it to change the "toaster" position from v3.3 (where they are neatly docked at bottom) to v4.0.1 (where they are either 1/2" from bottom/top)? I use weapons in sl and I find misc, out of place icons/menus distracting.
With all these fui customizations why couldn't there have been one to either; a) disable/enable toasters altogether b) change default location (top, right/left, bottom, left/right)?
How about moving your AO hud to a different attachment spot or completely switching to the viewer AO?
Thank you very much for Your work !
If i would only have the Linden Lab Viewer.. i would Leave Second Life.
Iam an SL Citizen since 2007
THANK YOU FOR THE V1 LOOK !
Sweet. This actually looks nice even at release. It's not extremely difficult to create your own elements either (unless they changed something lol). I was just about to upgrade, perfect timing for an announcement so I didn't have to go through configuration twice this week :P. Hopefully some of those performance improvements make this viable as main grid client. Can't wait.
Thanks for sharing this - all you guys are amazing
"Congratz & special thanks" to the Team for all your efforts to build this FUI Version for "old" users like me. as i am since 2007 in SL and as i never was a friend of the new Linden Viewers because it was so confusing + made it dificult for me with constructions & to build things, this Firestorm FUI is the 1st "new" viewer im Happy with after the Big Viewer Changes from LL and introducing all the new "2.0 Viewer things..." (now i can leave Phoenix and start to use Firestorm in the Future) Thx
Switched skin to Silverlight Blue. The search window is all messed up and completely unusable, although I don't know if that's due to the skin. And how can I move those floating icons in the top right, back down next to the toolbars where they're less obtrusive? Can't find anything in the preferences. Also, how about a v1 silver skin like Phoenix has?
@profvrobinson Sorry, but the coders are a bunch of volunteers with no obligations. Providing a support video is already an extra service for the userbase. However, did you try RUclips's own captioning beta? It looks fairly decent, except for some odd weirdness like Hitomi's name.
I use this viewer with my students... all of whom are deaf. I'd like to send them to this video to explain the new viewer but where are the captions? I get why people who are posting videos of their puppies don't caption, but you're a company, right? Attention to accessibility would be appreciated. Thanks.
Loving so many things such as but miss the locking sidebars and agree that the IM chat in the upper right is a mess when I have a lot of convos going. Also the new non-locked inventory, outfits, places, etc obscure incoming notices when open and I can't always close them fast enouh to see what I missed. Also why are open IM/Group chats duplicated on left side in a different format? Nice workk guys but please fix the lock that you were so proud of in v3. Loved it.
@kitrana and i cant remove or move the floating dialog alert thing
Does this viewer have the new Merchant Outbox to upload items onto SLMarketplace? LL are getting rid of Magic Boxes very soon and everything is going "Direct Delivery" and for this we need the Merchant Outbox. I have tried the normal SL Viewer but nothing loads for me at all =/
When i use Firestorm in my desktop, my avi is involved on fire, and when I use the other viewer everything seems pink. How can i fix that?!
i miss the side tabs you might want to put them back in
hello, I've been using Phoenix 1.5.2.1102 and was gonna update to the recent phoenix. However my friend said that change to firestorm as u guys gonna phase out phoenix. I tried it and sort of ok and I use the Phoenix skin which are familiar to me. but I wonder if I can make name of AV in nearby same window in the nearby chat because i find it hard to know who is around. opening the People window is not practical to me, is there something i can do to change this or is it permanent? thanks!
What's your choice in Preferences > Chat > "Show IMs in:" (second line from the bottom) ... seperate windows or tabs? Sounds like you got seperate windows running, but you want tabs.
Could someone PLEASE help me! I want to remove the chat icon thingers that appear in the top right corner when you've entered an IM with someone. I find it REALLY annoying.
why are my flexiprims choppy on FS....but not on phoenix? D:.....i noticed the phoenix avi flexiprims are choppy as well
Thank you! It's really nice work.. Only thing I don't like is that the chat IM icons are at the top right, it's kind of driving me crazy.. :(
For those who as me like and are used to the previous Firestorm settings and skin, select settings as Phoenix and skin to Firestorm. The buttons look a bit diffrent as above But at least its Close !!
Im having the same problem.. mine keep separating from the other converstaions and then I have like 5 different windows open talking to people .. a mess !
Vary nice work Thank you. Looking forward to giving it a try.
Thank you, very much appreciate all your work. Rose
I love the new skins...but was also hoping for a mesh edit fix...Nothing yet?????
Yay for V1 looks. Now if the IM chat icon would just move to the lower left and be able to resize the build window life would be perfect
Why aren't any of my windows docking to the sides?
I respect the work & improvements, but I do find myself having to click, drag, move things about now much more than before. Sidebar for me was quick, easy & tidy in which it just took a couple clicks to get where I wanted. I wish they had implimented a V2 sidebar option at login, but for now im sticking to FS 1.2.3
I can't get my search to work with this new change. Help!!!!
much better compared to the fui in the previous video
I downloaded it, and it does not look like this for me. Also, even after a clean install, following the wiki, it STILL crashes!
@endless031 Yes, this will be the next firestorm version
i got problem whit search! its messed up like i cant see whole page
Does anyone know how to hide the zoom in this new version?
So, any chances of getting the V1 search back? This new search flat out stinks, horribly.
That video is encouraging for updating to FS 4 - I always worry everything is going to change too much to be worth the bother of a clean reinstall when basically right now everything works great and does what I want so why change? - but I'm a little worried about the top comment about IMs which can't be moved. Only my friend who uses FS 4 says she can.
TY TY TY TY ! The Phoenix skin is great. It was the UI on the V2 & V3 that nagged me big time so Ill DL this Firestorm and give it a go in SL.
Still hoping you guys will work with OS grids *cough* InWorldz *cough* ;) Im using Phoenix in IW and even if its buggy at times (certain things I cant use Phoenix for and are forced to switch to other viewer) I refuse to let it go. Would be wonderful if you wanted to work with the other grid devs :))
I like this new version but things are very slow to rezz, everything seems to load slow and everywhere I go even with no one but me on the sim seems laggy n choppy. I don't have this issue with other viewes or previous versions of FireStorm.
Loving this FUI :)
....What does FUI mean?
Um,..it the new Firestorm only about changes in the looks,buttons,n skins,etc? No new things we can do inworld? Like more stuff with our avatars or inventories,etc.If it's all about buttons n skins,I'll pass.I am fine with the Firestorm I have. I'm not worried about the colors n shaopes of my buttons or where they are sitting.
Thank you, awesome work
not really liking the floating button look thing of the toolbar
I have to agree with that last comment. I watched this video hoping to find out how to move the IM boxes back down to where they were previously. I don't care for them at the top at all.
Frickin great chaps and chapesses!
APPRECIATED
By this I mean the coloring and such, I saw the similar layout :]
Thank you can't wait
Terrific! i'm impressed!
Well Done on V1 mode!!!
It's soooo much more stable!
can anyone help me to get FS working on my iMac - operating lion
@xcite81 there is no change! why so inflexible?? you will not die cause the IM conversation is on the right top....
Yay for the Area Search button! :D
thx SOOOO much for the v1!!!!!! AWESOME
@xaos32 Same here xaos, for me sidebar was quick, easy and clean. I started sl on V2 and for me, sidebar just seemed to be perfect. Oh well, look's like i'm gonna be using a outdated viewer for a long time now.
Ikr i downloaded it and it doesnt look like urs and mine Crashes also -__-
okay people this is a free viewer that they are trying to give as an option and I am sure they appreciate the input if you do not like the viewer don't use it and it is still a beta remember. I dont get why some people put them down for something that they are doing for free, jeez some of ya'll need some help.
Phoenix
This doesn't change the fact that Firestorm lags for me on the very same graphics and network settings that Phoenix FLIES on. >_>
now with more buttons!
i am sorry the only reason i wont change is i am so use to phoenix viewer i know its old but its how it is i dont like to lose the buttons and the way i know things on there :)
Great Info Thank YOu
Thank you Zee :)))
I have that same phoenix avatar. :P mine's blue though.
I will love you forever if you make the a skin with the current look of phoenix
Looks really good but doesn't win me over from phoenix quite yet..
I want 13 and a half minutes of my life back... I will settle for 10.
i want my one click gestures back and my notifications back down the bottom
the lag is being caused by the old firestorm viewer your using LL's secondlife viewer will run much better then that old firestorm.. about the new firestorm... i have not tried it yet Restrained love viewer also runs better xD
I dont get it. For me, a viewer should be just like a tool, like a slave to the game. And a tool needs some kind of continuity so it becomes familiar and the work will go easy and save. But this release is like a hammer that you know well but overnight it changes into a screwdriver. The viewer seems to be the star role and not the game itself. Next we need to say: Hey, lets play Viewer! Its soo cool how it can look and uhm the buttons! Oh now yellow buttons, great uhm wow, green too! Pffff...
I'd love this a lot more if I didn't crash so much xD
i want that bird :)
Me too.
Flexible User Interface, lol
WTF...buttons buttons button etc etc...
LOL AX Feral Phoenix....
That was 13 minutes of my life I can't get back...13 minutes talking about "buttons." Is that all you have to offer to entice me to use Firestorm? What other features are there in this version? Is it more stable than the last version? Does the textures load properly than last viewer release? What about the build features? Do we get multiple layers for jackets and so on. These are all questions to answer, but instead of answering them, you wasted 13 minutes of my time talking about buttons.
i dont know.. even i dont like it and this new viewer hangs whit me in a sesion of 3 hours 5 times. That im i cannot replace.. that suck Please Firestorm before you release some. work first out ore it is stabil. and dont chance old good working views.. that IM on your top.. take it away.
Naah hate that layout! 1.26 is the best!
this shit makes me soo dizzy
Please learn to edit your videos!! Too long, and not informative enough!