The Best Method I've Seen For Reducing Cymbal Bleed From Your Snare
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Gates, EQ's, foam, mic placement. I've come across the most effective method I've ever seen for reducing cymbal bleed in your snare mic, and I wanted to show it to you.
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REAPER USERS: I found the stock JS Downward Expander also works for this. I'm still playing with the settings, but I found setting the Threshold around -25 dB, Ratio at 3.0, and leave Gain alone. Gain is just the output volume and doesn't affect the sound. Attack 1 ms, and Release between 1 - 5 ms depending on taste. This will give you the attack and isolation.
Dude this is a sick trick! Thanks for sharing
holy shid, i love reaper and its community.
This fucking legend
This is a great tip, thank you so much! Reaper's community really is the best.
this saved meee. thank you very much
It’s crazy how much better to my ears the fabfilter sounded with this technique. Worth the extra money!
Great technique, I used to do something very different, for example, if the real snare sounds like shit from 3k to 5k because of poor placement or excessive bleed, I completely remove that area, then drop a sample track, and remove every frequency except that 3k - 5k area that the real snare needs. This should work perfectly if the sample is close enough to the real track, or you could record your own sample from the same session, that would fit like a glove.
I call this "Frequency patching".
Is this mic pointed AT the hihat?
FUCKING FOR REAL
I seriously laughed so hard at this comment for like a whole minute
Wow.. this is one of those "aha!" moments for me. Thank you so much for passing this on
Super cool dude, thanks so much.
I've been going crazy running in circles with gates and this worked so much better.
I found that setting the side chain key to the 150-300 range makes it so much more accurate, as expected.
You have that snare smashing! Great sound brother! Appreciate that technique. Never used that one before. Will give it a try. Thank you my man.
Here's another idea, duplicate the snare close mic tracks (top and bottom), hard limiter to even out the spike and bring up the cymbal bleed in the duplicates, HP at around 1khz, then flip the phase on the duplicated tracks.
Essentially using phase cancellation to your advantage.
Great idea, but, what about the high mids on the snare? I think iti would sound dull without them.
Great technique! I will try it out for sure! Love that you showed the example with the different price range plugs. Awesome!
Awesome man thanks. Been trying to find the C6 set up. Works like a charm
awesome job just tested this out and it works great!
Excellent! Quick and fairly simple. That plugin does come with Cubase 11 pro. I find it incredibly useful. I throw it on my main buss just to use the solo function to listen to different frequency ranges of the mix. You can set the low band to just cover like 65Htz to 90Htz and then solo it without actually compressing anything. It just lets you hear exactly what's happening in that range. Amazing tool for identifying where the "mud" is lol. Question for you, have you ever tried two gates in succession? First one to get the attack and release set for the drum, and the second one set to filter out the top end. Just saw a vid on this and it worked really well! I haven't tried it yet and never heard of it before. For live I do use the eq section of the gates on my X32. Definitely a better result when you "tune" the gates. Cheers!
This can be a very effective technique. Thank you
Thank you so much for this. Worked wonderfully.
By far the most superior technique. Thanks man! More of that!!!
Fantastic! Dear Dave, your technique saved me the money I wanted to spend on buying Sonnox DRUM GATE. Now I do not need it :) I tried to apply your technique not only on snare, but also on other drums (kick, toms). Everything works great! Thank you very much! Respect! (Like + Subscribe)
Nice. that's pretty cool but it still kinda kills that nice high attack sound from the snare. lol I'm obviously being incredibly idealistic in my thinking though haha. This is definitely the best method I've seen so far. thanks man
This is like magic! super useful
amazing technique my friend, your amazing
Nice trick! Although it seems to be taking a lot of the High information of my Snare, like snap, presence, air. Any solution for keeping that in the Snare?
Dude, this is awesome! Thanks!
Great idea and OMG, that recording. The cymbals dominate the snare sound:)) WTF? Was that a bad mic placement?
I had tried using a Blue vocal mic for the snare to see how it would sound. Didn't turn out great.
I ve recently used the humble sm57 for the top and a sennheiser md 441 u with better results than the shure.
great stuff .. thx
Way less steps then what I was doing and I have waves. Thanks!
Pretty cool trick! Could It work with some Bass or guitar bleed?
TDR Nova is a free plugin which can also do this
The free version of Nova can't expand.
How bloody close is the hi hat to the snare? Holy smokes. Good video, though
That was fucking dope. Thank you so much.
It's like that movie There Will Be Bleed starring Daniel Day Lewis.
Duplicate the track, invert phase on that duplicated track and add a compressor to it, adjust to taste. Voila.
Is this because you want to keep some bleed from the mids and lows? How is this better than a regular gate?
Cymbal bleed tends to be the biggest problem when dialing in a good snare sound, so getting that under control yields the greatest benefit, and keeping the body of the drum intact makes for a more transparent sound.
ah ok, now i get it. Cool.