Respectfully- I must disagree. I think the slow, sluggish movement paired with the high armor and heavy hitting nature of the BFV tanks really makes them feel powerful and in my opinion- lots of fun. Seeing a massive Tiger or Churchill rolling slowly towards your position is scary- as it should be, because it IS hard to take them out. And I think that makes for really exciting situations. When you're the one tanking, you can absolutely play aggressively, you can't fly into to capture zone immediately and start taking everyone around you out, you push slowly and methodically, pushing the enemy back and eventually out of objectives, I've seen a lot of drawn out firefights at objectives be finished by a tank rolling in for one of the teams and pushing the enemy right out. Finally- in order to prevent assaults from sprinting around your tank at mach 9 and being unable to kill them, advance with infantry. Infantry benefits from armor and armor bennefits from infantry- this is battlefield after all- best not to lone wolf it.
I also agree with you that battlefield V tank fighting isn't the worst and is probably the best and most accurate, the game has been officially out for a while and I still prefer battlefield V tank play rather than battlefield 4 just because of how realistic it is and the need for coordination in order to be super effective.
SpontaneousCombustion I must disagree, I main the new tanks, more specifically the type 97 and I’ve had a 72 kill game with a couple of deaths without camping light years away from the battle but I must say that a group of assault troopers with dynamite is a scary thing
Confusing. You complained that BF1 tank game play was too solo. But when BF5 wants you to work as a team to destroy a tank you said “forced team play is never a good idea”.
Kaden Volan It was too solo because of the self repair, BF4 if you wanted to repair you had to jump out (no exit or enter animations) to repair leaving you exposed. This is actually a good thing as it left tanks exposed and a sneaky enemy could steal it. It was a risk you had to do to repair, it also showed up on the mini map as an empty vehicle so players would know when you're reping. BF4 you can solo tank easily, but giving self repairs took away an aspect of teamplay because "why help repair a tank when they have self repair". It's about creating a balance of team play while also giving individual players the tools they need to solo.
@@IllllllIIIIIIIIlllllll Battle Field 5 lets you self repair to an extent. When you take too much damage you cant go past that point, unless get out and repair, have a teammate repair, or you can go to a resupply station. That's risky isn't it? Also the limited ammo prevents tanks from camping on the hill all game like BF4 and BF1.
Tanks weren’t as scary to come across for me in BF4 as they were in BF1. They are easier to destroy. In BF1 the tanks were more of a force to be reckoned with, as they should be.
in bf1 if you knew that person can fack your day up. you had to play assault and try to kill him with at rockets or etc. if tanker posted where he see everyone coming your pretty much shit to luck if he was so good.
The reason for the tanks in bf1 being a bit overpowered is the historical background. Tanks have been introduced into the battlefield in mid-to-late phaze of the war. Infantry was pretty much hopeless in fights against armored vehicles, as they didn't have nearly any weapons capable of damaging these steel beasts, at least till the final phase of the war. It was pretty much improvisation and luck, just like it is now in bf1. In the beginning of WWII, infantry was already better prepared against armored vehicles, not to say that due to development of anti-tank weapons and air support, in the end of the war, sometimes it could even be safer to stay on the ground than to be closed inside a steel death-trap. Devs of the Battlefield series finally have made the gameplay more realistic
I agree, i only disagree regarding BF1 tank's cannon/turret turning speed. Because you said everything but something you forgot to say is that in ww1, tanks were cannons and machine guns inside an armored "car", what i mean is that they were "basically" the same soldiers, but now inside a armor hard to penetrate, it wasnt a killing machine (i dont know if u get what i mean). So i also agree that in BFV tank is the best they did.
The first British tanks were not as powerful as people think, the British mark tanks had no suspension, meaning crew could get knocked out from going on rough terrain. Unlike the French Renault lite tanks, the mark tanks had no compartments or ventlators, crew members would burn themselves from the engine placed near the middle. This also meant that smoke from guns would usually linger in the inside of the tanks, a large health problem. Finally, the tanks were horribly unreliable and would break down on a regular basis, they were also badly armoured and could be easily destroyed or immobilised by artillery and explosives as they had exposed tracks.
Efe Atlı no it doesn’t this the worst battlefield beta I’ve played and I’ve played them all the best beta was 3 just cause they had rush we basically got 2 conquest maps one just takes longer on some very boring maps and the health regeneration sucks so if you get in one fight and survive it then the next fight your dead and medic forces you to either play supper aggressive or stand back and revive recon is the only class that’s viable to have decent kills but you sacrifice team play
ivan martinez I’ve been playing since 1943 and I really enjoy bfV gameplay except the spitfire and the upgrade tree. Besides that it’s a great game. Guess I’m the one of the few battlefield players that can adapt to change such as lower ammo
I outfitted my Tiger with the AP mines for just such an occasion. I know people are more than daring to charge up to a tank, especially with the lunge mine in the game. It makes for a good surprise attack on people throwing the dynamite on me. (I spend a lot of time in the 3rd person cam just for the better view around me)
you gave your Tiger AP mines??? Why?? Actually no, I know why, but that is just stupid. As a tiger you shouldnt be in a position where infantry can swarm you. You should always be sitting as far back as possible and sniping enemy tanks and infantry with the superior cannon and anti-tank rounds. The heat-t rounds will 3 shot literally any tank
@@digiorno1142 Again, people are more than daring to charge a tank with lunge mines. And plus, I find it fun to cause panic among the enemy ranks when you charge into a cap for a moment, blast away then get out of dodge before you're deleted. Play in ways the enemy wouldn't expect and it will often pay off quite well. The Tiger is great for a defensive monster, yes. But it's not a tank destroyer, you can definitely go on the offensive and make a push with your superior armor and defenses. I don't enjoy sitting back and being that kind of tanker that everyone hates, I like getting the muscle in their face because that's what's fun to me. With how aggressive I am when I'm tanking, having some extra defense really does help. That's why I have the AP mines on my Tiger.
Soooo you’re saying when tanks are easier to operate and get in and out quicker there’s a higher skill ceiling ??? This doesn’t make sense. The tanks now are much more tactical as you have plan and think ahead due to turret speed.
Because sitting out of bounds and not using your brain while getting an easy kill streak is “tactical”. The reason BF4 had a higher skill ceiling is because you had to insanely good and strategic in the tank or else you are easy meat. If a player was really coordinated in a tank on BF4, they were a force to he reckon with. In BF1 you literally just sit out of bounds or out of reach from enemy players and point and click. That’s it... not much for skilled gameplay.
@@lejenddairy well actually sitting back is tactical and you have to look at the history of the tanks, the reason the tanks are op in bf1 is because they were just introduced mid ww1 so infantry didnt know how to counter it as easily so that's what I like about bf1, the tanks are scary and beast like but not to beast like to where you go on a 50 kill rampage. That's the problem with these lists, he never looks at how realistic it is and in bf4 people literally just drive into combat getting destroyed in seconds which isnt strategic at all and makes the gameplay boring when you in a tank that can make a full 360 degree turn in seconds then blast everyone
Tanks can't push flags in current BF game as they could in bf4, you can't be aggressive and push without infy support unless you have light tanks or maybe the Valentine's. A high skill ceiling means that a badplayer is easily taken out in tanks while a good player can solo tank and be agressive while staying alive. Recent patches fixed this some but the low mobility makes agressive playstyles in tanks almost impossible unless you're against an enemy team of bots. Being able to dodge incoming fire, quickly pillar, back to safety quickly and also push quicky is key and in BFV we just don't have that.
Andrej Marin yes! Best thing they have done! Also the weight and sluggishness is very accurate, also gaining speed and momentum is. Very accurate. Love these tanks now!!!
@@TehNuTTTer I love it because of that. It is more realistic. If a WW2 era tank went into an urban enviroment without infantry support it got swarmed and killed. I just love it on rotterdam if u play smart u can controll the streets, just like shut down a street for the enemy(get the Tiger with 3 machine guns and a good crew and desimate like 20 people repeatetly trying to charge the street with no tank support of their own)and allow your guys to claim the street beforo u drive forward. But if u charge in like a moron u get swarned and killed. U cant play these tanks Rambo style like in BF1.
I don't agree with you, I think the tanks are great in BF5 in terms of gameplay, but obviously as you said they feel sluggish, but they do have limited ammo so bye bye tank campers, and the tank fells realistic in terms of everything, they do need to tweek some things for the tanks, but that's what beta is for.
just so you know valentine and churchill had a top speed at about 20kph irl and the panzer IV and tiger had around 40kph, so generally the german tanks should have twice the speed of the brittish ones
Pepe4358 Alt Lol, the Valentine was an underpowered tank engine-wise, and actually had pretty thick armor too despite it's designation, so it was rather slow, however, if you want something faster in the british military, look towards the cruiser tanks like the Crusader and Cromwell.
They had ways of combating them. They were called field guns. Which exist on nearly every map with tanks. And then the assault class has anti tank grenades and mines, rockets, and everything in-between.
@@bluethunderbolt9631: Not what I ment dude. You can't expect one guy to stroll up on a Tank with a couple grenades and a few Boom Boom sticks and take it out all by himself. This is set at a point in time where these things were practically unstoppable death machines, that required effort to take out. It's not like BF4, where you can stick 3 things of C4 on a Tank and be done with it.
@@tomtomtom6970 the game wasn't broken tho Tanks are up against a massive team of players and are a giant target, whilst still being expected to push objectives and be shot at from every direction 24/7. Tanks have 0 use if they are in low numbers, are easy to kill and don't have super strong weapons.
I disagree with you. For me these are the best tanks I've seen in Battlefield. It seems by the way you talk that you see tanks from the perspective of an Assault player. For me DICE need to pulish them a lot, they have some extrange behavious. It's normal for tanks to be slow, not for light ones, but do you think that it would be right for a heavy tank like the Tiger I if it could go fast like BF4 days? It would be too op (formula: + armmor - speed). Also, why do you think a single assault need to kill a tank himself? Come on, it would be so fucking op that no one would play tanks. BF1 assaults where toxic as hell and I am glad that they got nerfed. Ehem ehem, pls nerf Panzerfaust damage... Tanks are are cluncky because Narvik haves a lot of difficult terrain and Rotterdam haves some zones that are very difficult to go through with some flat terrain btw. There are flat maps coming in like Twisted Steel, Hamada, etc. I think this game will have good tanks. They need to expand specializations and add the customization. Hope there will be a lot of WW2 tanks and not only 3 per nation. Pz. 38 (t) has just been revealed and there is also a misterious british tank/armored vehicle in the "This is Battlefield V" trailer. Remind that Hummel is confirmed, and in the future we will have Soviet tanks with Stalinium armmor xDD. PD: More sensitivity changes console gameplay a lot. Also, I don't like 3rd person camera, hope they improve it since it's brand new.
I agree, tank combat in BF4 was great, It was also good in BF1 but I wasn't a fan of the packages. However I feel that the combat in BFV is great. The customization adds a lot of choices. My only issue is that tank classes don't feel right, like why does my Tiger 1 seem like it has as much health as a Valentine. Also I didnt know the pz 38 was confirmed so im hyped about that, but I just want a panther ;(.When they add Soviets they better add a KV-2 for the reinforcements though that'd be fucking amazing
Strongly disagree. I find the tanks in bfv really fun and challenging. As someone who was mainly a tank player in bf4 I can testify that positioning was always the key to be a good tanker. In bfv this fact is amplified. You can see a noticeable difference between a good tank player and a bad one. A good one provides support for his ground infantry and knows when he's outgunned and should fall back. A bad tanker just rushes head on and dies immediatly. There's a pretty steep learning curve for tank players in bfv, but once you get acquainted to the mechanics, you'll have a lot more fun.
BG its not fun to play tank on this game. I got 60 kills on the dogshit mat Rotterdam using tanks and deleted the beta. I couldn’t push past the D flag because that’s where the ammo station is . Such boring and useless gameplay mechanic for tanks. The amount of effort you need to put in to do well in tanks is too much compared to retards just killing you with strength in numbers
I started playing again and I was in the game chat with like 15 other people and were all rushing Charlie and I see a tank coming towards us and I swear we all shit are pants
They weren't called tanks until after WW1; they were originally called landships, as they were originally made by the Royal Navy. Fun fact. They became known as tanks as that's what the British called them to mask that it was a land-ship.
Personally I adore the tank gameplay the most in BFV, they are big, tough and scary, they are an absolute menace in a match and I think they did it perfectly. For example, the Tiger 1 was a horrifyingly terrifying beast in the war and the allies feared even the sound of it so it makes sense for it to be big and slow as if it was fast and had a fast traversing turret, it would be stupidly overpowered.
Seriously? Scary? In BF4 people would run away from a tank with support but the opposite happens with battlefield V where you get fucking assaulted by assault roles with rocket launchers, the Tiger I is so fucking nerfed that its not even scary to the point that it can BARELY TAKE OUT A CHURCHILL, SERIOUSLY, THE TIGER CANT EVEN TAKE OUT A VALENTINE, thats how useless tanks are in BFV, you'd do better in planes or just being an infantry in general
arab guy speaks arab Maybe it’s because your bad at playing the Vehicles. I destroyed people in a Tiger. Its skill based. I personally think your complaining because your bad at killing vehicles
TBAG says in BF1 tanks are good for camping Me:gets a heavy tank and goes flamethrower only an gets number 1 on leaderboard because tanks and flamethrower are OP AF
@@lustrazor44 They feel fine to me. You just need to play tactically and smart, like it should be. You have actually be aware now since its alot harder to escape once assaults sneak up on you. Plus you cant just sit there mowing down everyone since youll have tp restock ammo and you now have to make tactical desicions about when the right time to attack is and if you should disengage to resupply rather than risk getting yourself into a fatal predicament. As long as you play smart you can dominate. I mean once i got the hang of the different feel from bf1 tanks i was managing to get games where I'd go 50 and 3, etc. Mind you they were mainly on Rotterdam which was easier than Narvik in my opinion but still. I think tanks are at their almost perfect point, just need abit more tweaking and I would really love to see some actual notable difference between the types of tank as they all felt pretty much the same except that the heavier ones like the tiger were kust slower as they had the same ammo and everything ( i think )
I agree, thats a huge downgrade, the "UI" i guess its called, in BFV is too unnecesserily complicated. Press X to customize, select weapon, select what you wanna do about it (speciallizations, customization, switch weapon), in customize section choose which part you wanna customize (sight, barrel...i like the fact you can customize each weapon part individually but they should make it easier like it is in Ghost Recon Wildlands) all that to change a single thing; why dont do the weapon customization like it was in BF4? Place weapon's camos, sights, gadgets, SPECIALLIZATIONS all in ONE section. Plus to that, in your appearance section if u change the "faction" takes idk maybe 20 seconds for you to SEE your soldier's appearance because he is invisible, + in that, if u change a outfit or camo (torso, legs, head), it bugs most times and u have to go ALL out customization section to go ALL over again just to be able to see it. In weapon customization when u select one of the sections (sights for example) you need to wait all the sights to "load" before selecting the one you wish or select it fast, or you gonna have to go select it again, because once every sight loads up the "cursor" goes back to the one you have equipped. That makes me so angry, i give up (honestly) most of the times when i go change my appearance because of that bug. And new/weekly weapons (like the S2-2000) and not base costumes when equipped (like the cap from the axis), glitch the game causing it to CRASH everytime you try to join a server. So you need to change all to default in your company before starting to play. Fix that DICE!! + the invisible outfits glitch.
Make sure you have infantry to support you or else you'll die quick. I went 40-2 in a tiger. It was the most fun thing iv done mainly because it takes actual skill to use. The tiger feels like a tiger, big heavy and absolutely devastating to the enemy. I really like your videos tbag but not every thing is going to be a coloring book. The tanks feel like there from ww2.there heavy, slow at turning there turret and need infantry to support them so they dont get overwhelmed. People were asking that tank turret traverse was set to a specific sensitivity and each tank has different strengths and weaknesses. Bf1 i felt like they were just modern day tanks with a ww1 skin over them. If you play a little more with tanks, you'll soon get the hang of it. Im sorry if this was a rude comment or somthing.
Went 52-1 yesterday on the Rotterdam map and all i got was frustration. You can manage these scores in the beta since nobody has the panzerfaust unlocked once that happens tanks are completely shit. To get ammo you need to wait 12 seconds per 75 rounds of gunner and 6 for shells which means you can wait up to a full minute while your team fights a crucial objective.... BORING My friend was saying come and help me with your tank, sorry brb getting ammo
thats a good point. maybe Im a bit biased when comparing things to bf4 because I honestly thinks its ALMOST a perfect bf game. I agree the tanks feel like actual ww2 tanks. but considering tanking is a big part of any bf game... I think they need to be more versitile. Right now I feel like they are best used for kill farming from longer ranges. instead of going in hot and going crazy like you were able to in bf4. that added to the skill ceiling and imo that what makes stuff like that awesome
You guys cry about historical accuracy, but when dice actual makes it historically accurate you cry and whine about it. Make up your mind you jabronis.
Honestly? I like it tbh, the suspense in the tank battles, like say a valentine rolled up behind you and you in a tiger one your trying everything you can to get your cannon on it, like SCHNELLER HANS SCHNELLER WIR HABEN NICH VIEL ZEIT PANZERGRENATGELADEN JETZT XD my friend was telling me that and he was top gunner XD only thing i do not like is the physics of the plane it is still clunky, it is like you are drifting in the air when you turn, and your tail is somehow heavier then the engine? Catch my drift, then there is the general stuff that needs tweaking,
To sum it up in my opinion. Bf4-fun skillful but weak. Teamwork is helpful. Bf1-fun powerful and makes you feel like you are in a tank. Bfv-Clunky weak and you just get killed by rocket launchers every time.
Him: tanks arent very good in tactical situations. Me: *desperately hiding in a building from a Churchill Crocodile while practically begging for mercy*
Slow and clunky, like it was in Ww2. The tanks are trying to be fun and historically accurate. Tigers had an insanely slow turret traverse speed, were slow, and the only upsides were the armor and weapon. Tanks in BFV are balanced cause you can only repair so far, you have limited shells, they are slow, they can take hits, and dish out damage. Just me tho
You can defeat tanks in bf5 by yourself, you have more than one explosive option on assault meaning you can use the dynamite and then also use the rocket launchers.
No offense, but this is the shittiest opinion on BF5 tanks I have seen. Not hard to do since this is the only one I've heard anyway. You go and say BF5 tank gameplay doesn't take skill but then go on to list reasons why tank gameplay is HARDER, not skill less. You say that the rotation speed is too slow, but if you were smart you would learn quickly that you should rotate your tank WITH the turret to make up for the slow speed. This is a perfect new way to remove the annoying ability to quickly whip the tank turret around with a mouse while also simultaneously adding a new layer to the skill gap AS WELL as new opportunity to balance different tank types. You called tanks slow while showing a heavy tank's obvious downside, but ignore the speed of a light tank. You then whine about the fact that you were outflanked by players who were better than you and you were helpless against them when they take advantage of the tank's downside. You end up sounding like you are whining that you can't one man army in a tank, even worse you whined that when you mess up you were punished for your mistake. Not only that, you whined about being able to kill enemies from a distance (aka use the tank in an effective scenario) but also complained when the infantry could destroy you from up close (aka being out of position). Then you go on to whine about "forced" team play in a series that was always supposed to be about team play in the first place. If you feel you are being "forced" to work as a team then I would rather you not play the game in the first place because that's what the game should have always been about. It's hard to see your opinion as anything more than a point of view filled with negative-confirmation bias due to DICE's incompetence with marketing, and nothing actually to do with the mechanics themselves. You made it pretty clear that you were looking to make out literally anything to be a negative.
I think you are the one who is biased since you made that assumption lol!! and thanks for your comment, looks like you are vey passionate abou this topic, as do I. but sadly your whole comment doesnt make any sense if you actually watched the video and listened to what I had to say. harder doesnt mean more skill... the slow turret speed is something that pretty much the entire communty agrees upon so dont act like I am the only one complaining about this. (yes you can make the turret roate 2% faster if you turn your tank as well bravo). I agree that turning your turret at light speed is retarded like it was on PC in bf4, but that wasnt the case on console. I never whined about being outflanked by players ''who are better than me'' lol. Its not really a hard thing to do since the tanks take ages to look around. and they are slow as hell so coming in close and flanking them is nothing special lmao. not being able to one man army with a tank is like you said not that possible in bf5. doesnt have to do with skill because as you can BY THE VIDEO FOOTAGE in bf4 I have no problem doing that. the point is that it is not possible BECAUSE it is BF5. thats the whole point Im trying to make. (and I never 'complained' about infantry destroying me wtf?) Lastly, yes bf has always been about teamplay. but not about FORCED teamplay. I guess you dont know the difference. the difference is that in other bf games you can play solo but you would be rewarded if you stick with your squad. in bf5 you are pretty much forced to play with your squad. you cant really play solo because of the ammo and health system and shit like that. if you dont get that than sorry you are extremely dumb lol.
@@TBAG Every console player has had to deal with the rotation speed of a bf tank. Having a tank 180 it's turret instantly after you shot at it just seems OP and stupid.
Good comment about rotation of tank and turret. This is what tank commanders learnt to do in real life especially with the Tiger as the turret rotation was very slow, it's a technique I learned quite quickly during the beta. T34 turret had to be rotated manually! I like the BF5 tanks a lot just hope they get the glitches ironed out ok.
The tanks definitely need some improvement. The worst tank issues for me were unpredictable tank spawning intervals and invincible 1940s cars and trucks. I got rolled by a family sedan while driving a 60 ton Tiger 1. lol
hey tbag your opinions are getting really good and release videos are awesome. this is a video i wouldn't have think to look up. keep up the great work.
I like the concept Bf v is trying to go for but it needs tweeking. The tanks are way to underpowered to deal with infantry effectively up close. The turret rotation is way to slow, the reverse speed and acceleration are very slow, no secondary gunner that is able to assist you as well in killing infantry in close proximity. so thats why you see a lot of them acting as mobile artillery far away from the objective.
Also the healthatrittion is pretty shit because no-one is repairing and the repairing with a repair tool last forever. You dont even get that many point for it.
Daniel Antony The front facing machinegun is fixed in a certain position, you cant look 360 degrees around you. And the top-mounted machinegun is pretty useless because you are sitting completely exposed on a slow moving or stationary vehicle which is basically a deadsentence.
First of all, tanks were slow in ww2, especially moving through the town, the heavies are supposed to be slow and the rotating was also slow, valentine is a light tank so it should be faster, you're basicly repeating what this ytber said, i didn't even watch this and i already knew that i won't like his opinion.
4:18 technically that makes sense. In WW1 tanks were super overpowered because nobody had ever fought against them before so they didn’t have the equipment or the tactics to combat them effectively
(THIS IS MY OPINION) After playing the BFV Open Beta, I am amazed with the game and I want to play more! Can’t wait to play BFV on release although the game is buggy and glitchy, especially when revivng and buddy reviving, and the tanks were crazy, like the Tiger, I got 24-2 on Narvik(Grand Operations Mode) and I was just defending the last sector by myself fortunately I was sitting near a supply zone so that I can get ammunition while defending the B flag, but we lost although it’s extremely fun! I can’t wait!!
Cromwell, t-34 (Soviet), M26 Pershing, M41 Bulldog, Hellcat, Crusader series, M3 stuart, BT series "Clunky and slow" apparently, even though some of these could reach 60-70 km/h
Tanks in BF1 are meant to be overpowered. It's because there weren't many weapons back in WW1 to counter tanks as tanks first saw combat in WW1. That's something DICE nailed in BF1. It's gave you the feeling of helplessness as these tank vehicles were almost impossible to destroy on the battlefield. ( Although the way the turret spins is way too quick ).
RGM RGM Where you didn’t even have to go over a hill to shoot the enemy. Where you could one shot people with the a7v due to the explosion radius being huge. That sure is real
I learned that tanks in bfv have anti infantry mines that you can deploy. And you can repair tanks as infantry in bfv since the driver can only repair so much. It was weird when I read in bfv that you could use boost to get more speed with tanks but bfv doesn't have it :(
If you play or even watched some gameplay of world of tanks, you know that you can do something called "turning the hull with the turret." Which means you have to watch where you locate yourself. You can no longer get into a very small spot and pull a 180 on some dude with the turret of a valentine.
Haven't played in a tank yet but I went 6 to 2 my first game and I almost cried by how much teamwork I put in for my friend, I didn't know u could do buddy revives which made me so happy honestly I only have a few things I dislike so far but it's just the cosmetics tbh I hope they add allied tanks and vehicles instead of German ones so far I've had what felt like war movie experiences, and I didn't get so much grief from vehicles if at all
Yeah I've had some saving private ryan moments in this game too so far. It's great! If we can customize our characters however we like. I'm making them all historically accurate. Even will try to use weapons for the appropriate faction.
After playing bf5. Bf5 has the best tanks physics in the series. Almost realistic touch with speed, driving, damage and maintenance. Going back to bf4 is amazing how far we got in technology.
I think the tank gameplay is one of bf5’s strenghts. In games like Bf4, bf3, bfbc2 and bf2, tanks really feel like jeeps with turrets because of their light weight, steering, and a ridicilous turret speed. Also the limited ammo makes tank gameplay more interesting in my opinion because ammo management brings in an element of strategy.
I for once think that bf1 got the best tank gameplay, the limited traverse of your main armament put an emphasis on having good gunners (you know that teamplay thing), and the heavy defense along with the sheer presence of a tank could be enough to push people out of cap points. Not only that but it was relatively easy to surpress an enemy tank, if you just dedicated a couple minuttes to get behind them, and start taking away chunks of their health, most players would rather pull out of the area than get killed.
I wreck in a Valentine tank when assaulting tigers and pazer IV and with the shooting the tank in certain parts dealing more damage it gives you an incentive to push up and get a more accurate shot. It also gives me some real war thunder vibes
I just want to say something I hate the word “camper” in video games because camping is just getting a good position on a hill or a ditch and that is smart so in games you are not allowed to be smart? I do not like that so camping is being smart
Not really. Most campers always get in the same position and never move. Even if they get killed and their position is known, they will still camp in the same position. Camping is not smart.
I real issue isn't BF1 or BF5 tanks forced to camp, it's that nobody plays gunner. There's no reason to camp if you have gunners defending your tank from all sides.
Exactly. The only vehicle that kinda encourages camping is the arty truck in Bf1, but even then it's much more effective to move with friendly armour and infantry to provide fire support. I sometimes even use it as a light tank of sorts help to infantry push the line if the heavier tanks are stuck somewhere. The speed allows for a variety of playstyles, but I see no one make use of it.
I do like the changes they did with tanks when bf1 came out. Having to now repair your tank manually instead of it magically repair itself gives it for me at least a more interesting challenge for tankers and a small window of opportunity for infantry. I'm glad they are bringing that part back in bf5.
Same, as infantry and as the tank it’s super fun, the team play and sound of spent rounds clinking off the inside of the tank makes me feel like I’m in the movie “fury” (even tho it’s ww1) and the anti tank mines and rocket guns mean that tanks are good chance to pick up 3+kills if I play smart
I am playing Battlefield since BF1942. Over the years my interest has shifted towards vehicles away from infantry. I preferred infantry-only or infantry-heavy games like MOHAA, COD 1 and 4, CS 1.6 and CSS, and earlier BF titles. The problem is that the number of things that can kill you in a BF title have increased a lot. I don't find it particularly fun to get killed by darts dropped by a plane in BF1. I usually live quite long and run out of ammo. I can take out a tank as assault, but then what? Too often it results in a chase of ammo around the map. Overall, I am a very good vehicle player / tanker in various BF titles and among the top 0.01%. I play CQ only and PTFO. If I am using a light tank and a flag is only held by infantry, I can deal with 7-10 infantry men myself and cap it. Or tanks for that matter. If I get the first shot, they are dead. Too many other players would use tanks or vehicles to camp on a hill or even at spawn. That's a waste of armor and has nothing to do with decent vehicle gameplay. Some call tanking easy to justify why they got killed 25 times in a row by a decent player using one. When they then try to use one themselves to take me out, they still die. Not so easy after all, ey. Killing people over and over makes them salty. They send multiple squads after me and still die most of the time. And since I am in the thick of it, on flags, surrounded by enemies, quite a few can't understand how that is possible without cheating. In BF 4 I had no problem of getting out of my vehicle and repair it manually. The vehicle would provide enough cover. That isn't the case in BF1 due to smaller tanks and splash damage. Self-repair is a nice improvement as it's the least frustrating system yet. Any damage will disrupt repairs. Problem is that hardly anybody uses it to their advantage. Ammo is unlimited, but slowed down by delays / cooldowns. I have lost quite a few unlucky battles only because I had 0 rounds left. And still, I never complained. Tanking in BF V is ridiculous. The turret is clunky and slow, splash damage unpredictable. Movement too clunky and slow. I can still be efficient and get high score/min and kdr's of 60 while ptfoing, but it isn't any fun in BF V. Ammo scarcity leads to strange gameplay loops on e.g. Rotterdam. You spawn, drive to flag A, cap it. Moving on to B, white house. Contact with a tank and infantry on the Main Street, distant battle, no action. After 40 seconds, out of ammo. Stockpile at B usually mined and too exposed, so driving all the way back to spawn. The layout and ammo scarcity disconnects me from most flags and my teammates. I can cap A and B, that's it. D or E is too close to enemy spawn, a tank and spawn-protected infantry can spawn on you any second. The inner bridge-parts of the map are dead. Close quarters, death trap with the slow and clunky turret. And on that snow map (Narvik), the different elevations enable 1 assault to kill a tank, as turret speed and bad visibility limits from shooting back in time. Tanks in BF 1 seemed to be OP in the open beta. That was because nobody had unlocked and learned to use the rocket gun. Also, the necessity to prone to use it, exposes them for too long and they die before they fire a shot. Damage has been tweaked, self repair reduced from 30(!!!) to single random digits. I saw other tankers complain about the changes. That's when you see a skill gap appearing. Yes, I would be slightly better with more armor and quick repair, but I can adapt. I personally would prefer a mix of BF4 and BF1's tank mechanics. The best of both worlds.
it seems like whateve dice does, with battlefield whether it's historically accurate or not, it always seems to screw up. People are never happy. Like why does everything need such detail to be enjoyable? Doesn't matter if you are a tanker, a pilot or an infantry player. Games, especially battlefield, gives you so many options of gunplay, mechanics and different kinds of gameplay styles. Why is it so hard to move on? I get that everyone has a favorite battlefield, but sometimes a new game is a stepping stone to further, improved development of a serie.
Been a fan of the battlefield series since BF1942 first came out. I Probably have played the battlefield series more than most games except for a select few, but regardless. I tried the tanks in the BFV beta and loved them. You see, a tank in BFV is supposed to move up with the infantry on your "team" in a support kind of way. A tank that over extends can be overwhelmed by infantry very quickly, especially in tight environments where mines can be placed all around the tank and hit with barrages of anti-tank weapons. Use smoke to retreat and repair/rearm. The only exception to this rule of lone wolf tanking really would be if you were in an area with a very slim amount of cover and you were extremely good at picking off targets quickly from all sides, just pray you can rearm quickly enough before infantry gets the jump on you. If you have a gunner and or an engineer, your likely hood to survive increases. A tank can seem OP when you have an opposing team that works together to an extent and your team is running around trying to play "lone" wolf. Battlefield has always been a squad based game in conquest modes in terms of tactics. Some players will keep throwing themselves at the meat grinder by thinking their "skill" will overpower the opposing team and other players will try to think of a strategy on how to get around the meat grinder, attack it from the flanks and or push the team out by capturing a less defended Flag point. You know who will win, or least put up a damn good fight and a good game.
You dont know ANYTHING, do you. Battlefield 4 is the days of modern tanks, including the modern Russian T90S and the sleek and strong US M1A2 Abrams. These tanks are strong and have a decent speed, having the T90S go a little bit faster. Battlefield I is supposed to be World War I, where the first tank ever made comes into play. The Mark I. The tank was slow, break-worthy, and very unreliable. Battlefield V. You're the worst at this one. The developers of the game wanted to show the realism of the game in tanks by adding it in. The Panzer 38t is fast, has an acceleration that is decent, and has a bad cannon, because it is light. The Panzer IV tanks are medium tanks, being slow, and unreliable around 1944. The Tiger. One of the best tanks, trailing behind the M4, had the worst engine of all, breaking down a lot, needed repairing a lot of the time, but the armour was super thick, and had a great KwK 88 cannon that can puncture anything. The Sturmtiger was the same thing as the Tiger, different model as on a Jagdpanther base, but with the chassis of a Tiger I. Good armour, bad engine, and a whopping deadly 350mm rocket cannon. The British side however is the same. Valentine is a good light tank, its fast, and has a better cannon than the 38t. The Churchill is slow, but had a decent pounder gun. The Churchill gun carrier, one of the unique ones, was the same, but with a larger cannon, as it was a tank destroyer. That is realism for you. Now please do research before you criticize developers on a game that try their hardest on a game full of action packed fun and tons of realism. It's best for everyone, instead of calling every tank in Battlefield V a vacuum cleaner.
Lol, bf4 tanks are piss easy to destroy with all the lock ons and laser targetting, not to mention air power. As for "forced" loadouts in bf1, everyone was always running the same things in 4, either because the rest was gutted, too situational, or required actual teamwork to function at least somewhat consistently. Tanks are about maintaining a team's momentum, not spearheading attacks yolo style. Red Orchestra 2 did them mostly right. If it's brawling you seek, then yes, bf4 tanks and bfbc2 tanks are top notch for that and your opinion is indeed valid. I mean, agile tanks made sense in the nervous, action-pumped BC formula. But on large scale games, it gets annoying to have Sonic the TankHog farming kills like it's some sort of arcade game.
it was easy to sit back in the tanks in BF5 because no one had the panzerschreck, a lot of people didnt realize you have to unlock weapons at the home screen, I was owning in a tank until the end of the beta when most players unlocked the panzerschreck, now being out in the open was a death sentence in a tank. it will also get a lot harder when other players unlock more powerful weapons like mortars etc.
Tanks are supposed to be heavy, slow and powerfull. The only problem I have with them in Battlefield 5 is that they don't require any teamwork unlike Battlefield 1 I think they should have made roles for the tanks like in Red Orchestra 2 where you you at least need 3 people to be effective. It could have been super fun to wreak havoc on the enemy team with 4 of your friends. Still a great video nonetheless. :)
As a tank hunter in bf5 the dynamite only does low damage when you don’t hit the tank in the right spot just like how the shells if they either hit in the wrong area or ricochet. You can take out one of the strongest armored tanks like a tiger 1 with 3 sticks of dynamite and an m1a1 rocket launcher, having such an op opponent as an infantry just makes it more fun ive had to get creative to pull off some kills on some tanks because of how op they are but still a good video rly like ur stuff
Hes complaining about historically accurate and true tanks, tank are supposed to be sluggish and clunky. Im sorry real life got in the way of your toxic beliefs for tanks
The reason why the tanks are slow is because one most of the tanks in bf5 are heavy tanks so they're meant to be slow and heavy tanks are normally used in tank on tank combat which is why people are kill farming the infantry because there's not enough tanks in the first place. The second is that it's actually easy to kill tanks be cause you don't have to use dynamite all the time there's something called a panzer fast which is a rocket launcher and anti tank mines. You can't really say bf5 is the worst because it hasn't been fully released yet so they could add and change a lot of stuff so you can't really say it's the worst because it's only just been the open beta.
O boy that's a real mess from battlefield 5 beta. Now it's pretty cool the mechanics they are grat now and upgrades they absolutely amazing and historically accurate from that time. I'm so excited for the american and the russian updates
I love when he said bf1 tanks just sit on hills and fire, I mean isn’t that what they did in ww1 and even so bf4 tanks were so bs with their zoom in option so they were the ultimate campers.
I think Battlefield 3 had the best tank play of all the different iterations. Smooth tank driving and accurate shots while in 3rd person view was just perfect...then came BF4 and put in a bunch of extra fluff to the gameplay in the form of a million different weapon choices which just muddied the waters too much. SPRUT 4 LIFE. Great Video by the way, you just got me to sub and i look forward to more high quality videos.
BF2 and BF3 tanks are the best. BF4 tanks are way too Good with far reaching Thermal optics and APs BF1 tanks are way too easy to get kills in by just staying away from the objective. High reward and low risk. - BFV are a bit boring to use.
Graphic .J you've only played on two maps for BFV though, and probably haven't got any of the good attachments and also it's gonna change before full game probably, don't judge too early
I think these setting(limite your ammo,the turret turning speed)will increase the realistic of this game.Although these setting may let you have less fun on it , but indeed these setting let the game closer to the realistic.
No man you wrong tanks in bf1 was not OP- just bad players in bf1 in general + assu class did not have AT gun at that time and every new player trying to figure out what to do and start write angry post on reddit neeeeerf war beegins
There is an element of teamwork in bf1 cos when you’re pushing an objective in anything but a light tank you need you team to protect you and make sure that you don’t get mobbed by assaults
@@pyotrvrangel7190 because it's only inconvenience... So people complain, the game is for adults, yet Dice thinks Battlefield is Roblox or something and censored chat... And I do not believe that "white man" or "Titanfall" being filtered is a bug.
@@jakubgrzybek6181 White man probably not, but Titanfall? Why it shouldn't be a bug? Whatever yes, the game is for adults, but this doesn't allow people to insult each other
What crazy is how far the tank gameplay on battlefield 5 have changed since this video, I would have never known considering I started playing almost half a year ago.
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I think it’s good.
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In all honestly i hate it
The infantry gameplay changes ruin the game for me
I still need to try out tanks
I will take my time before I will criticize this game (because of bugs). But so far the transition from bf1 to bfv was weird.
Very good game!👍
The (turret rotation)speeds are actually ridiculously fast compared to the real life counterparts
Well yeah, they need them to be a bit unrealistic because players are using the tanks in unrealistic ways.
Ikr
That's why I love war thunder even though it mostly gets me killed
@@footfinger8195 I love wt amazing game
blyat oppa hahahahaha, just wait for top tier
Respectfully- I must disagree. I think the slow, sluggish movement paired with the high armor and heavy hitting nature of the BFV tanks really makes them feel powerful and in my opinion- lots of fun. Seeing a massive Tiger or Churchill rolling slowly towards your position is scary- as it should be, because it IS hard to take them out. And I think that makes for really exciting situations. When you're the one tanking, you can absolutely play aggressively, you can't fly into to capture zone immediately and start taking everyone around you out, you push slowly and methodically, pushing the enemy back and eventually out of objectives, I've seen a lot of drawn out firefights at objectives be finished by a tank rolling in for one of the teams and pushing the enemy right out. Finally- in order to prevent assaults from sprinting around your tank at mach 9 and being unable to kill them, advance with infantry. Infantry benefits from armor and armor bennefits from infantry- this is battlefield after all- best not to lone wolf it.
And it puts a better use to the bombers instead of just killing infantry
SkyNugget They are to easy to kill in V in BF1 they are genuinely scary
SkyNugget I mostly play as a medic class, and watching a huge ass tank moving up an alleyway is threatening.
I also agree with you that battlefield V tank fighting isn't the worst and is probably the best and most accurate, the game has been officially out for a while and I still prefer battlefield V tank play rather than battlefield 4 just because of how realistic it is and the need for coordination in order to be super effective.
SpontaneousCombustion I must disagree, I main the new tanks, more specifically the type 97 and I’ve had a 72 kill game with a couple of deaths without camping light years away from the battle but I must say that a group of assault troopers with dynamite is a scary thing
Confusing. You complained that BF1 tank game play was too solo. But when BF5 wants you to work as a team to destroy a tank you said “forced team play is never a good idea”.
Kaden Volan It was too solo because of the self repair, BF4 if you wanted to repair you had to jump out (no exit or enter animations) to repair leaving you exposed. This is actually a good thing as it left tanks exposed and a sneaky enemy could steal it. It was a risk you had to do to repair, it also showed up on the mini map as an empty vehicle so players would know when you're reping. BF4 you can solo tank easily, but giving self repairs took away an aspect of teamplay because "why help repair a tank when they have self repair". It's about creating a balance of team play while also giving individual players the tools they need to solo.
@@IllllllIIIIIIIIlllllll Battle Field 5 lets you self repair to an extent. When you take too much damage you cant go past that point, unless get out and repair, have a teammate repair, or you can go to a resupply station. That's risky isn't it? Also the limited ammo prevents tanks from camping on the hill all game like BF4 and BF1.
Tanks weren’t as scary to come across for me in BF4 as they were in BF1. They are easier to destroy. In BF1 the tanks were more of a force to be reckoned with, as they should be.
dont you think they are a bit OP? its very hard to take them out
@@TBAG You fucking suck.
in bf1 if you knew that person can fack your day up. you had to play assault and try to kill him with at rockets or etc. if tanker posted where he see everyone coming your pretty much shit to luck if he was so good.
Its a tank its suppose to be op not a tin can
@@TBAG it's a tank ffs
so they got the tanks historical correct, but not the characters?
Papa Flex Tape last I heard there are no black female tanks
Idk is a Asian woman fighting nazis in Norway correct🤔🤔?
Pyron according to our educated friend Patrick Sörderlund that is correct
RGM RGM political correctness it’s bc ww2 wasn’t “inclusive enough” yeah I’d much rather women not have charged mg42 on d-day thank you very much
And then you see Sturmtiger with 380mm gun with Stielhandgranade power... ugh
The reason for the tanks in bf1 being a bit overpowered is the historical background. Tanks have been introduced into the battlefield in mid-to-late phaze of the war. Infantry was pretty much hopeless in fights against armored vehicles, as they didn't have nearly any weapons capable of damaging these steel beasts, at least till the final phase of the war. It was pretty much improvisation and luck, just like it is now in bf1.
In the beginning of WWII, infantry was already better prepared against armored vehicles, not to say that due to development of anti-tank weapons and air support, in the end of the war, sometimes it could even be safer to stay on the ground than to be closed inside a steel death-trap. Devs of the Battlefield series finally have made the gameplay more realistic
I agree, i only disagree regarding BF1 tank's cannon/turret turning speed. Because you said everything but something you forgot to say is that in ww1, tanks were cannons and machine guns inside an armored "car", what i mean is that they were "basically" the same soldiers, but now inside a armor hard to penetrate, it wasnt a killing machine (i dont know if u get what i mean). So i also agree that in BFV tank is the best they did.
@@tsesuutromaria2459 its not a killing machine its literally a killing bunker
1916 I think so halfway through
The first British tanks were not as powerful as people think, the British mark tanks had no suspension, meaning crew could get knocked out from going on rough terrain. Unlike the French Renault lite tanks, the mark tanks had no compartments or ventlators, crew members would burn themselves from the engine placed near the middle. This also meant that smoke from guns would usually linger in the inside of the tanks, a large health problem. Finally, the tanks were horribly unreliable and would break down on a regular basis, they were also badly armoured and could be easily destroyed or immobilised by artillery and explosives as they had exposed tracks.
The only big historically inaccurate thing in BFV is being able to make your character a women
I wish they had re-created Battlefield 4 within a world war two setting tbh.. Watching the Battlefield 4 gameplay just looks so fun. Nice video mate
Efe Atlı no it doesn’t this the worst battlefield beta I’ve played and I’ve played them all the best beta was 3 just cause they had rush we basically got 2 conquest maps one just takes longer on some very boring maps and the health regeneration sucks so if you get in one fight and survive it then the next fight your dead and medic forces you to either play supper aggressive or stand back and revive recon is the only class that’s viable to have decent kills but you sacrifice team play
@Efe Atlı bf5 is absolute trash a bunch of weird changes no one wanted and weird ammo
Efe Atlı no it kid your 12 you haven’t played any of the old battlefields
Efe Atlı bro I’m be real with you right now your trash dog
ivan martinez I’ve been playing since 1943 and I really enjoy bfV gameplay except the spitfire and the upgrade tree. Besides that it’s a great game. Guess I’m the one of the few battlefield players that can adapt to change such as lower ammo
"Infantry is not to be feared in BFV and BF1"
Me: Watches a squad of assault class with sticky dynamite approach my tiger in BFV
I shit bricks when that happens.
I outfitted my Tiger with the AP mines for just such an occasion. I know people are more than daring to charge up to a tank, especially with the lunge mine in the game. It makes for a good surprise attack on people throwing the dynamite on me. (I spend a lot of time in the 3rd person cam just for the better view around me)
you gave your Tiger AP mines??? Why?? Actually no, I know why, but that is just stupid. As a tiger you shouldnt be in a position where infantry can swarm you. You should always be sitting as far back as possible and sniping enemy tanks and infantry with the superior cannon and anti-tank rounds. The heat-t rounds will 3 shot literally any tank
@@digiorno1142 Again, people are more than daring to charge a tank with lunge mines. And plus, I find it fun to cause panic among the enemy ranks when you charge into a cap for a moment, blast away then get out of dodge before you're deleted. Play in ways the enemy wouldn't expect and it will often pay off quite well. The Tiger is great for a defensive monster, yes. But it's not a tank destroyer, you can definitely go on the offensive and make a push with your superior armor and defenses. I don't enjoy sitting back and being that kind of tanker that everyone hates, I like getting the muscle in their face because that's what's fun to me. With how aggressive I am when I'm tanking, having some extra defense really does help. That's why I have the AP mines on my Tiger.
I shit myself seen just ONE assault player with an AT Nade approach my fully manned landship in bf1
Once he takes out my tracks, all shit breaks loose
Soooo you’re saying when tanks are easier to operate and get in and out quicker there’s a higher skill ceiling ??? This doesn’t make sense.
The tanks now are much more tactical as you have plan and think ahead due to turret speed.
Because sitting out of bounds and not using your brain while getting an easy kill streak is “tactical”. The reason BF4 had a higher skill ceiling is because you had to insanely good and strategic in the tank or else you are easy meat. If a player was really coordinated in a tank on BF4, they were a force to he reckon with. In BF1 you literally just sit out of bounds or out of reach from enemy players and point and click. That’s it... not much for skilled gameplay.
@@lejenddairy well actually sitting back is tactical and you have to look at the history of the tanks, the reason the tanks are op in bf1 is because they were just introduced mid ww1 so infantry didnt know how to counter it as easily so that's what I like about bf1, the tanks are scary and beast like but not to beast like to where you go on a 50 kill rampage. That's the problem with these lists, he never looks at how realistic it is and in bf4 people literally just drive into combat getting destroyed in seconds which isnt strategic at all and makes the gameplay boring when you in a tank that can make a full 360 degree turn in seconds then blast everyone
Tanks can't push flags in current BF game as they could in bf4, you can't be aggressive and push without infy support unless you have light tanks or maybe the Valentine's. A high skill ceiling means that a badplayer is easily taken out in tanks while a good player can solo tank and be agressive while staying alive. Recent patches fixed this some but the low mobility makes agressive playstyles in tanks almost impossible unless you're against an enemy team of bots. Being able to dodge incoming fire, quickly pillar, back to safety quickly and also push quicky is key and in BFV we just don't have that.
If you want realistic tanking battlefield isn't your franchise, play Arma or war thunder
*In BFV being a tank operator makes you feel very powerful yet still vulnerable, I love it*
I love the turret rotation changes. There is nothung more ridicilous and immersion braking than seeing a tank turn its turret 180deg in 1 second!!!!!
Andrej Marin yes! Best thing they have done! Also the weight and sluggishness is very accurate, also gaining speed and momentum is. Very accurate. Love these tanks now!!!
@@TehNuTTTer I love it because of that. It is more realistic. If a WW2 era tank went into an urban enviroment without infantry support it got swarmed and killed. I just love it on rotterdam if u play smart u can controll the streets, just like shut down a street for the enemy(get the Tiger with 3 machine guns and a good crew and desimate like 20 people repeatetly trying to charge the street with no tank support of their own)and allow your guys to claim the street beforo u drive forward. But if u charge in like a moron u get swarned and killed. U cant play these tanks Rambo style like in BF1.
NOW they are "more realistic" but not realistic
Andrej Marin ur right abt that but things are much worse when it comes to a close combat
@@Cypherium yeah because irl tanks are not meant for urban combat it's the easiest setting to get flanked in
I don't agree with you, I think the tanks are great in BF5 in terms of gameplay, but obviously as you said they feel sluggish, but they do have limited ammo so bye bye tank campers, and the tank fells realistic in terms of everything, they do need to tweek some things for the tanks, but that's what beta is for.
Valentine is light so it should be faster, Tiger and churchill are heavy do they are finely slow.
you for reals? people like you nerfed tanks in bf1 cuz you die alot and can only play 1 round of conquest
just so you know valentine and churchill had a top speed at about 20kph irl and the panzer IV and tiger had around 40kph, so generally the german tanks should have twice the speed of the brittish ones
i only wish the tanks were a bit faster and the the muzzle velocity of the tank mg was faster
Pepe4358 Alt
Lol, the Valentine was an underpowered tank engine-wise, and actually had pretty thick armor too despite it's designation, so it was rather slow, however, if you want something faster in the british military, look towards the cruiser tanks like the Crusader and Cromwell.
I quite like the methodical tank gameplay of BF5. But I wouldn't rank them since BF5 is still on beta.
Mr.Potatoguy yup 100% agree.
What about now
Dank Sanchez
Still kinda trash
@@danksanchez4324 Pretty good now 2 years later
Thank god for limited turret traverse speed in BFV. Instantly reacting turrets, in previous battlefield titles, were a pain and it also looked stupid.
it looked stupid on PC I agree because they can turn at light speed. but on console its a different story
@@TBAG what about the sweats who play with max sens
Op tanks in World War 1...When they had little to no way of combating them...HMMMMM I WoNdEr WhY!!
They had ways of combating them. They were called field guns. Which exist on nearly every map with tanks.
And then the assault class has anti tank grenades and mines, rockets, and everything in-between.
@@bluethunderbolt9631: Not what I ment dude. You can't expect one guy to stroll up on a Tank with a couple grenades and a few Boom Boom sticks and take it out all by himself. This is set at a point in time where these things were practically unstoppable death machines, that required effort to take out. It's not like BF4, where you can stick 3 things of C4 on a Tank and be done with it.
Historical accuracy shouldnt break the game tho
@@tomtomtom6970 the game wasn't broken tho
Tanks are up against a massive team of players and are a giant target, whilst still being expected to push objectives and be shot at from every direction 24/7. Tanks have 0 use if they are in low numbers, are easy to kill and don't have super strong weapons.
If I see just ONE lad slowly approach my tank from the rear, I think to myself “well…… shit”
I disagree with you. For me these are the best tanks I've seen in Battlefield. It seems by the way you talk that you see tanks from the perspective of an Assault player.
For me DICE need to pulish them a lot, they have some extrange behavious. It's normal for tanks to be slow, not for light ones, but do you think that it would be right for a heavy tank like the Tiger I if it could go fast like BF4 days? It would be too op (formula: + armmor - speed).
Also, why do you think a single assault need to kill a tank himself? Come on, it would be so fucking op that no one would play tanks. BF1 assaults where toxic as hell and I am glad that they got nerfed. Ehem ehem, pls nerf Panzerfaust damage...
Tanks are are cluncky because Narvik haves a lot of difficult terrain and Rotterdam haves some zones that are very difficult to go through with some flat terrain btw. There are flat maps coming in like Twisted Steel, Hamada, etc.
I think this game will have good tanks. They need to expand specializations and add the customization.
Hope there will be a lot of WW2 tanks and not only 3 per nation.
Pz. 38 (t) has just been revealed and there is also a misterious british tank/armored vehicle in the "This is Battlefield V" trailer. Remind that Hummel is confirmed, and in the future we will have Soviet tanks with Stalinium armmor xDD.
PD: More sensitivity changes console gameplay a lot. Also, I don't like 3rd person camera, hope they improve it since it's brand new.
Samu-94 I agree with you. The tanks feel much more balanced bfv
I agree, tank combat in BF4 was great, It was also good in BF1 but I wasn't a fan of the packages. However I feel that the combat in BFV is great. The customization adds a lot of choices. My only issue is that tank classes don't feel right, like why does my Tiger 1 seem like it has as much health as a Valentine. Also I didnt know the pz 38 was confirmed so im hyped about that, but I just want a panther ;(.When they add Soviets they better add a KV-2 for the reinforcements though that'd be fucking amazing
@@XenoPulsar Rucking KV2?! I'm gonna get a fuck ton of Char 2C PTSDs. Fucking hell.
@@danielantony1882 Hell yea, but only as a reinforcement tank. They have the sturmtiger already which is somewhat similar.
If they add in the T-34-85 and my IS-2 for Russian I'll be happy.
Strongly disagree. I find the tanks in bfv really fun and challenging. As someone who was mainly a tank player in bf4 I can testify that positioning was always the key to be a good tanker. In bfv this fact is amplified. You can see a noticeable difference between a good tank player and a bad one. A good one provides support for his ground infantry and knows when he's outgunned and should fall back. A bad tanker just rushes head on and dies immediatly.
There's a pretty steep learning curve for tank players in bfv, but once you get acquainted to the mechanics, you'll have a lot more fun.
BG agreed! I think we should game/tank together lol
BG its not fun to play tank on this game. I got 60 kills on the dogshit mat Rotterdam using tanks and deleted the beta. I couldn’t push past the D flag because that’s where the ammo station is . Such boring and useless gameplay mechanic for tanks. The amount of effort you need to put in to do well in tanks is too much compared to retards just killing you with strength in numbers
I totally agree, I’ve always been a vehicle player in BF and BFV impressed me, can’t wait for launch
Jesse Rodriguez weird flex k
You can’t even fucking kill someone with the tank cannon in bf5. You damn near need a direct impact.
Bf V tank gameplay is amazing (warning: this is my opinion) :)))
Andrei Bianu nice warning. A lot of people I’ve seen have been assaulting others for having a different opinion
I didn't get to play with them :(
Woahhh an opinion? Can't allow them around ere mate
I love them too
Well I enjoy them, u can’t destroy a tank with Jeep stuff so easily
"Not every tank is as fast as a M18 Hellcat"
3:57 made me spit out my coffee
Same
When tanks in bf1 can be historically accurate.
*sees a tank
Soldier: TAAAAAAANNNNNNK
Other soldier: OMG WHAT IS DAT THING
I started playing again and I was in the game chat with like 15 other people and were all rushing Charlie and I see a tank coming towards us and I swear we all shit are pants
They weren't called tanks until after WW1; they were originally called landships, as they were originally made by the Royal Navy. Fun fact. They became known as tanks as that's what the British called them to mask that it was a land-ship.
Personally I adore the tank gameplay the most in BFV, they are big, tough and scary, they are an absolute menace in a match and I think they did it perfectly. For example, the Tiger 1 was a horrifyingly terrifying beast in the war and the allies feared even the sound of it so it makes sense for it to be big and slow as if it was fast and had a fast traversing turret, it would be stupidly overpowered.
Seriously? Scary? In BF4 people would run away from a tank with support but the opposite happens with battlefield V where you get fucking assaulted by assault roles with rocket launchers, the Tiger I is so fucking nerfed that its not even scary to the point that it can BARELY TAKE OUT A CHURCHILL, SERIOUSLY, THE TIGER CANT EVEN TAKE OUT A VALENTINE, thats how useless tanks are in BFV, you'd do better in planes or just being an infantry in general
@@kulot-ki1tu Wtf are you saying? Buy the game first
arab guy speaks arab Maybe it’s because your bad at playing the Vehicles. I destroyed people in a Tiger. Its skill based.
I personally think your complaining because your bad at killing vehicles
TBAG says in BF1 tanks are good for camping
Me:gets a heavy tank and goes flamethrower only an gets number 1 on leaderboard because tanks and flamethrower are OP AF
Nice, it takes skill to use that tank or map or both
TheGeneral FrogArmy in bf1 the artillery truck is perfect for camping
@@autokid311 I hope you don't do that.
Yeah but on bf4 nobody would repair your tank there is no team work in that game
Yup and if you went outside to repair they would steal your tank
TheChaotic Gamer
If only you had your tank's key with you...
I think tanks are the best in Battlefield 5 better than they have ever been
@@lustrazor44 so basicly ww2, u are a huge fan aren't you? His opinions suck, we have our rights.
@@lustrazor44 I felt like on rodeo, just running around until he got out and I stole his tank
@@lustrazor44 I went 30-0 with a tank, they're not "useless"
@@lustrazor44 They feel fine to me. You just need to play tactically and smart, like it should be. You have actually be aware now since its alot harder to escape once assaults sneak up on you. Plus you cant just sit there mowing down everyone since youll have tp restock ammo and you now have to make tactical desicions about when the right time to attack is and if you should disengage to resupply rather than risk getting yourself into a fatal predicament. As long as you play smart you can dominate. I mean once i got the hang of the different feel from bf1 tanks i was managing to get games where I'd go 50 and 3, etc. Mind you they were mainly on Rotterdam which was easier than Narvik in my opinion but still. I think tanks are at their almost perfect point, just need abit more tweaking and I would really love to see some actual notable difference between the types of tank as they all felt pretty much the same except that the heavier ones like the tiger were kust slower as they had the same ammo and everything ( i think )
@@keyboardmamma yeah I was in the same situation because I went 50 and 7 in one of my matches with the tiger
4:27 Well duh that's called being accurate
Not related to tanks but I miss the BF4/BF1 style weapon changing menu when you could easily change your primary, sidearm and grenade
Plus why can't we rotate the guns to view them in BFV?
I hope they include it
I agree, thats a huge downgrade, the "UI" i guess its called, in BFV is too unnecesserily complicated. Press X to customize, select weapon, select what you wanna do about it (speciallizations, customization, switch weapon), in customize section choose which part you wanna customize (sight, barrel...i like the fact you can customize each weapon part individually but they should make it easier like it is in Ghost Recon Wildlands) all that to change a single thing; why dont do the weapon customization like it was in BF4? Place weapon's camos, sights, gadgets, SPECIALLIZATIONS all in ONE section. Plus to that, in your appearance section if u change the "faction" takes idk maybe 20 seconds for you to SEE your soldier's appearance because he is invisible, + in that, if u change a outfit or camo (torso, legs, head), it bugs most times and u have to go ALL out customization section to go ALL over again just to be able to see it. In weapon customization when u select one of the sections (sights for example) you need to wait all the sights to "load" before selecting the one you wish or select it fast, or you gonna have to go select it again, because once every sight loads up the "cursor" goes back to the one you have equipped. That makes me so angry, i give up (honestly) most of the times when i go change my appearance because of that bug.
And new/weekly weapons (like the S2-2000) and not base costumes when equipped (like the cap from the axis), glitch the game causing it to CRASH everytime you try to join a server. So you need to change all to default in your company before starting to play. Fix that DICE!! + the invisible outfits glitch.
Why u hatin bfv. Its the best tank gameplay ive had and ive played every battlefield game. And remember that bfv is in beta
BF5: my tanks are super weak and easy to destroy
BF4: am I a joke to you
BF3: funny
Make sure you have infantry to support you or else you'll die quick. I went 40-2 in a tiger. It was the most fun thing iv done mainly because it takes actual skill to use. The tiger feels like a tiger, big heavy and absolutely devastating to the enemy. I really like your videos tbag but not every thing is going to be a coloring book. The tanks feel like there from ww2.there heavy, slow at turning there turret and need infantry to support them so they dont get overwhelmed. People were asking that tank turret traverse was set to a specific sensitivity and each tank has different strengths and weaknesses. Bf1 i felt like they were just modern day tanks with a ww1 skin over them. If you play a little more with tanks, you'll soon get the hang of it. Im sorry if this was a rude comment or somthing.
Went 52-1 yesterday on the Rotterdam map and all i got was frustration. You can manage these scores in the beta since nobody has the panzerfaust unlocked once that happens tanks are completely shit. To get ammo you need to wait 12 seconds per 75 rounds of gunner and 6 for shells which means you can wait up to a full minute while your team fights a crucial objective.... BORING
My friend was saying come and help me with your tank, sorry brb getting ammo
thats a good point. maybe Im a bit biased when comparing things to bf4 because I honestly thinks its ALMOST a perfect bf game. I agree the tanks feel like actual ww2 tanks. but considering tanking is a big part of any bf game... I think they need to be more versitile. Right now I feel like they are best used for kill farming from longer ranges. instead of going in hot and going crazy like you were able to in bf4. that added to the skill ceiling and imo that what makes stuff like that awesome
Over 5 kd in bf1 getting 40+ killstreak in light tank almost every game
@@TBAG to me bf4's tanks were tin can's
pineapple grenades hurt the tiger tank, what armor?
You guys cry about historical accuracy, but when dice actual makes it historically accurate you cry and whine about it. Make up your mind you jabronis.
RGM RGM give this man a cookie
Shut up fanboy people are different, not everyones comments you see are from the same person.
RGM RGM
I wish i could give you a hug. Thank you for calling it out.
Who the hell asked you?
Honestly? I like it tbh, the suspense in the tank battles, like say a valentine rolled up behind you and you in a tiger one your trying everything you can to get your cannon on it, like SCHNELLER HANS SCHNELLER WIR HABEN NICH VIEL ZEIT PANZERGRENATGELADEN JETZT XD my friend was telling me that and he was top gunner XD only thing i do not like is the physics of the plane it is still clunky, it is like you are drifting in the air when you turn, and your tail is somehow heavier then the engine? Catch my drift, then there is the general stuff that needs tweaking,
War Thunder: you dare oppose me, mortal?
To sum it up in my opinion.
Bf4-fun skillful but weak. Teamwork is helpful.
Bf1-fun powerful and makes you feel like you are in a tank.
Bfv-Clunky weak and you just get killed by rocket launchers every time.
Correct
The reason for the slow tanks and barley any at stuff was because it was in ww1 when tanks first came out
Him: tanks arent very good in tactical situations.
Me: *desperately hiding in a building from a Churchill Crocodile while practically begging for mercy*
I love tank gameplay in the finished bf5
This guy is a battlefield 4 BOOMER
I mean BF4 was a great game.
@@thatoneguy7451 yeah but he hates true tank combat
@Culver’s Lmao yeah. If he ever plays war thunder, he’s gonna have a panic attack over the turret rotation speed.
@@thatoneguy7451 and reverse speed on t90a too, 4 vs 30ish kmh lol
‘Waaah waaah dice made BF V historically accurate’
Jeah this video in nutshell
Slow and clunky, like it was in Ww2. The tanks are trying to be fun and historically accurate. Tigers had an insanely slow turret traverse speed, were slow, and the only upsides were the armor and weapon. Tanks in BFV are balanced cause you can only repair so far, you have limited shells, they are slow, they can take hits, and dish out damage. Just me tho
You can defeat tanks in bf5 by yourself, you have more than one explosive option on assault meaning you can use the dynamite and then also use the rocket launchers.
there is difference between modern tanks and ww1,ww2 tanks.
It called positioning and skill
No offense, but this is the shittiest opinion on BF5 tanks I have seen. Not hard to do since this is the only one I've heard anyway. You go and say BF5 tank gameplay doesn't take skill but then go on to list reasons why tank gameplay is HARDER, not skill less. You say that the rotation speed is too slow, but if you were smart you would learn quickly that you should rotate your tank WITH the turret to make up for the slow speed. This is a perfect new way to remove the annoying ability to quickly whip the tank turret around with a mouse while also simultaneously adding a new layer to the skill gap AS WELL as new opportunity to balance different tank types. You called tanks slow while showing a heavy tank's obvious downside, but ignore the speed of a light tank. You then whine about the fact that you were outflanked by players who were better than you and you were helpless against them when they take advantage of the tank's downside. You end up sounding like you are whining that you can't one man army in a tank, even worse you whined that when you mess up you were punished for your mistake. Not only that, you whined about being able to kill enemies from a distance (aka use the tank in an effective scenario) but also complained when the infantry could destroy you from up close (aka being out of position). Then you go on to whine about "forced" team play in a series that was always supposed to be about team play in the first place. If you feel you are being "forced" to work as a team then I would rather you not play the game in the first place because that's what the game should have always been about.
It's hard to see your opinion as anything more than a point of view filled with negative-confirmation bias due to DICE's incompetence with marketing, and nothing actually to do with the mechanics themselves. You made it pretty clear that you were looking to make out literally anything to be a negative.
I think you are the one who is biased since you made that assumption lol!! and thanks for your comment, looks like you are vey passionate abou this topic, as do I. but sadly your whole comment doesnt make any sense if you actually watched the video and listened to what I had to say.
harder doesnt mean more skill... the slow turret speed is something that pretty much the entire communty agrees upon so dont act like I am the only one complaining about this. (yes you can make the turret roate 2% faster if you turn your tank as well bravo). I agree that turning your turret at light speed is retarded like it was on PC in bf4, but that wasnt the case on console. I never whined about being outflanked by players ''who are better than me'' lol. Its not really a hard thing to do since the tanks take ages to look around. and they are slow as hell so coming in close and flanking them is nothing special lmao. not being able to one man army with a tank is like you said not that possible in bf5. doesnt have to do with skill because as you can BY THE VIDEO FOOTAGE in bf4 I have no problem doing that. the point is that it is not possible BECAUSE it is BF5. thats the whole point Im trying to make. (and I never 'complained' about infantry destroying me wtf?)
Lastly, yes bf has always been about teamplay. but not about FORCED teamplay. I guess you dont know the difference. the difference is that in other bf games you can play solo but you would be rewarded if you stick with your squad. in bf5 you are pretty much forced to play with your squad. you cant really play solo because of the ammo and health system and shit like that. if you dont get that than sorry you are extremely dumb lol.
Bf5 Tanks are good only for camping far away from the action.
@@TBAG Every console player has had to deal with the rotation speed of a bf tank. Having a tank 180 it's turret instantly after you shot at it just seems OP and stupid.
Good comment about rotation of tank and turret. This is what tank commanders learnt to do in real life especially with the Tiger as the turret rotation was very slow, it's a technique I learned quite quickly during the beta. T34 turret had to be rotated manually! I like the BF5 tanks a lot just hope they get the glitches ironed out ok.
Yep, the video is a textbook example of confirmation bias. "I didn't like something EA said, so everything about the game must be bad."
The tanks definitely need some improvement. The worst tank issues for me were unpredictable tank spawning intervals and invincible 1940s cars and trucks. I got rolled by a family sedan while driving a 60 ton Tiger 1. lol
hey tbag your opinions are getting really good and release videos are awesome. this is a video i wouldn't have think to look up. keep up the great work.
I like the concept Bf v is trying to go for but it needs tweeking. The tanks are way to underpowered to deal with infantry effectively up close. The turret rotation is way to slow, the reverse speed and acceleration are very slow, no secondary gunner that is able to assist you as well in killing infantry in close proximity. so thats why you see a lot of them acting as mobile artillery far away from the objective.
exactly
Also the healthatrittion is pretty shit because no-one is repairing and the repairing with a repair tool last forever. You dont even get that many point for it.
But there is a machinegunner seat. You can add a Third one if you want. What are you talking about?
Daniel Antony The front facing machinegun is fixed in a certain position, you cant look 360 degrees around you. And the top-mounted machinegun is pretty useless because you are sitting completely exposed on a slow moving or stationary vehicle which is basically a deadsentence.
First of all, tanks were slow in ww2, especially moving through the town, the heavies are supposed to be slow and the rotating was also slow, valentine is a light tank so it should be faster, you're basicly repeating what this ytber said, i didn't even watch this and i already knew that i won't like his opinion.
4:18 technically that makes sense. In WW1 tanks were super overpowered because nobody had ever fought against them before so they didn’t have the equipment or the tactics to combat them effectively
(THIS IS MY OPINION) After playing the BFV Open Beta, I am amazed with the game and I want to play more! Can’t wait to play BFV on release although the game is buggy and glitchy, especially when revivng and buddy reviving, and the tanks were crazy, like the Tiger, I got 24-2 on Narvik(Grand Operations Mode) and I was just defending the last sector by myself fortunately I was sitting near a supply zone so that I can get ammunition while defending the B flag, but we lost although it’s extremely fun! I can’t wait!!
Terminater 7000 AGREED, see ya on the battlefield my dude!
Well....
@@nore5992 Well? Support got ended, but that doesn't mean that I should stop playing it. I'm still playing it to this day and I never get bored of it.
@@rintarou478 Good man. I know I’m 1 year late, but I also still like BFV even after support has long since ended.
@@jblazerndrowzy I'm still here, matter of fact I moved from PS4 to PC and is still PTFO
The tanks are historically accurate like the ww2 tanks there slow they didn’t have much technology back then respect the games historically accuracy
Well. Historically. Tanks were slow in WW2. Because they wanted more armor. So yeah thats why.
But what about the Panther D? It could go 60 km/h and yet it has a much better frontal armor than the tiger (130-140mm ish)
StayFrosty -ReckerPlays
Soviets, Americans, French: Autistic screeching
arab guy speaks arab
It was so bad though
@@kulot-ki1tu try with 65 to 85 frontal armor
"tanks are very powerfull in cqb" in reality Cqb is one of the scariest things for a tanker.
Tanks from history are slow and clunky expect that
Cromwell, t-34 (Soviet), M26 Pershing, M41 Bulldog, Hellcat, Crusader series, M3 stuart, BT series
"Clunky and slow" apparently, even though some of these could reach 60-70 km/h
@@kulot-ki1tu "some" but normal war tanks... hell no
Tanks in BF1 are meant to be overpowered. It's because there weren't many weapons back in WW1 to counter tanks as tanks first saw combat in WW1. That's something DICE nailed in BF1. It's gave you the feeling of helplessness as these tank vehicles were almost impossible to destroy on the battlefield. ( Although the way the turret spins is way too quick ).
My fav tanks were ones in bf1
Reckless Raptor
They were just toxic
@@jeffreymuu5451 no, I can't tell you how many times I'd spawn in a tank and realise that it was getting swarmed with AT grenades
RGM RGM
Where you didn’t even have to go over a hill to shoot the enemy. Where you could one shot people with the a7v due to the explosion radius being huge. That sure is real
@@drdoodoo282 The only time that has happen to me is on amiens. They would spawn camp the tank spawn and set dynamite down.
Reckless Raptor slow ass
I learned that tanks in bfv have anti infantry mines that you can deploy. And you can repair tanks as infantry in bfv since the driver can only repair so much. It was weird when I read in bfv that you could use boost to get more speed with tanks but bfv doesn't have it :(
i really liked the tank game play in BFV. I liked it more than any other BF game so far.
TBag: the turret turns so slow...
me:"you, sir have never played war thunder."
If you play or even watched some gameplay of world of tanks, you know that you can do something called "turning the hull with the turret." Which means you have to watch where you locate yourself. You can no longer get into a very small spot and pull a 180 on some dude with the turret of a valentine.
Haven't played in a tank yet but I went 6 to 2 my first game and I almost cried by how much teamwork I put in for my friend, I didn't know u could do buddy revives which made me so happy honestly I only have a few things I dislike so far but it's just the cosmetics tbh I hope they add allied tanks and vehicles instead of German ones so far I've had what felt like war movie experiences, and I didn't get so much grief from vehicles if at all
Yeah I've had some saving private ryan moments in this game too so far. It's great! If we can customize our characters however we like. I'm making them all historically accurate. Even will try to use weapons for the appropriate faction.
@@BrothaJeff SAME HERE LOL I ALWAYS USE HISTORICAL GUNS LOL
@@BrothaJeff I use the ruby because it's the only allied pistol tho which imo is dumb as there's not a french soldier at all
7:47 Well you got Panzerfaust/PIAT you know
After playing bf5. Bf5 has the best tanks physics in the series. Almost realistic touch with speed, driving, damage and maintenance. Going back to bf4 is amazing how far we got in technology.
I liked 1’s cuz i liked the tanks self
You can’t expect tanks from World War Two to move like modern day tanks
I enjoy tank combat in bf5 more then 4 and 1
keep up whit the good stuff man ! cheers from italy !!!!!!!
The tanks in bf1 are so powerful because it takes place in ww1
I think the tank gameplay is one of bf5’s strenghts. In games like Bf4, bf3, bfbc2 and bf2, tanks really feel like jeeps with turrets because of their light weight, steering, and a ridicilous turret speed.
Also the limited ammo makes tank gameplay more interesting in my opinion because ammo management brings in an element of strategy.
You know that tanks during ww2 (like the tiger) are slow and clunky right?
I for once think that bf1 got the best tank gameplay, the limited traverse of your main armament put an emphasis on having good gunners (you know that teamplay thing), and the heavy defense along with the sheer presence of a tank could be enough to push people out of cap points. Not only that but it was relatively easy to surpress an enemy tank, if you just dedicated a couple minuttes to get behind them, and start taking away chunks of their health, most players would rather pull out of the area than get killed.
This dude just complains about a 10 ton tank not being as fast as a jet🤣 like what??
I wreck in a Valentine tank when assaulting tigers and pazer IV and with the shooting the tank in certain parts dealing more damage it gives you an incentive to push up and get a more accurate shot. It also gives me some real war thunder vibes
Dont dare compare BFV tank battles to war thunder, if it was realistic that valentine would be shitting itself
I just want to say something I hate the word “camper” in video games because camping is just getting a good position on a hill or a ditch and that is smart so in games you are not allowed to be smart? I do not like that so camping is being smart
Not really. Most campers always get in the same position and never move. Even if they get killed and their position is known, they will still camp in the same position. Camping is not smart.
First, I got notifications on👍
@@saladking4106 true
Ppl who brag about being first should slit their wrists
And eventually some random child who has nothing to do here insults ppl
@@FadeRift2001 r u telling me that cuz ur the type of idiot who says first?
I real issue isn't BF1 or BF5 tanks forced to camp, it's that nobody plays gunner. There's no reason to camp if you have gunners defending your tank from all sides.
Exactly. The only vehicle that kinda encourages camping is the arty truck in Bf1, but even then it's much more effective to move with friendly armour and infantry to provide fire support. I sometimes even use it as a light tank of sorts help to infantry push the line if the heavier tanks are stuck somewhere. The speed allows for a variety of playstyles, but I see no one make use of it.
@@bluethunderbolt9631 Not even every arty truck, just the mortar variation. THat's the only one you can't actually attack in
I do like the changes they did with tanks when bf1 came out. Having to now repair your tank manually instead of it magically repair itself gives it for me at least a more interesting challenge for tankers and a small window of opportunity for infantry. I'm glad they are bringing that part back in bf5.
Bf1 tanks are way more fun the bf4
What tanks you mean. All what I remember there was garbages called tanks.
The tank gameplay in Bf4 was so much fun. Brought me Joy the BfV and Bf1 fid
Bf4 tanks are realistic
*CHANGE MY MIND*
Personally I love the tank games play in bf1
Same, as infantry and as the tank it’s super fun, the team play and sound of spent rounds clinking off the inside of the tank makes me feel like I’m in the movie “fury” (even tho it’s ww1) and the anti tank mines and rocket guns mean that tanks are good chance to pick up 3+kills if I play smart
I am playing Battlefield since BF1942. Over the years my interest has shifted towards vehicles away from infantry. I preferred infantry-only or infantry-heavy games like MOHAA, COD 1 and 4, CS 1.6 and CSS, and earlier BF titles.
The problem is that the number of things that can kill you in a BF title have increased a lot. I don't find it particularly fun to get killed by darts dropped by a plane in BF1. I usually live quite long and run out of ammo. I can take out a tank as assault, but then what? Too often it results in a chase of ammo around the map.
Overall, I am a very good vehicle player / tanker in various BF titles and among the top 0.01%. I play CQ only and PTFO. If I am using a light tank and a flag is only held by infantry, I can deal with 7-10 infantry men myself and cap it. Or tanks for that matter. If I get the first shot, they are dead. Too many other players would use tanks or vehicles to camp on a hill or even at spawn. That's a waste of armor and has nothing to do with decent vehicle gameplay. Some call tanking easy to justify why they got killed 25 times in a row by a decent player using one. When they then try to use one themselves to take me out, they still die. Not so easy after all, ey. Killing people over and over makes them salty. They send multiple squads after me and still die most of the time. And since I am in the thick of it, on flags, surrounded by enemies, quite a few can't understand how that is possible without cheating.
In BF 4 I had no problem of getting out of my vehicle and repair it manually. The vehicle would provide enough cover. That isn't the case in BF1 due to smaller tanks and splash damage. Self-repair is a nice improvement as it's the least frustrating system yet. Any damage will disrupt repairs. Problem is that hardly anybody uses it to their advantage. Ammo is unlimited, but slowed down by delays / cooldowns. I have lost quite a few unlucky battles only because I had 0 rounds left. And still, I never complained.
Tanking in BF V is ridiculous. The turret is clunky and slow, splash damage unpredictable. Movement too clunky and slow. I can still be efficient and get high score/min and kdr's of 60 while ptfoing, but it isn't any fun in BF V.
Ammo scarcity leads to strange gameplay loops on e.g. Rotterdam. You spawn, drive to flag A, cap it. Moving on to B, white house. Contact with a tank and infantry on the Main Street, distant battle, no action. After 40 seconds, out of ammo. Stockpile at B usually mined and too exposed, so driving all the way back to spawn. The layout and ammo scarcity disconnects me from most flags and my teammates. I can cap A and B, that's it. D or E is too close to enemy spawn, a tank and spawn-protected infantry can spawn on you any second.
The inner bridge-parts of the map are dead. Close quarters, death trap with the slow and clunky turret. And on that snow map (Narvik), the different elevations enable 1 assault to kill a tank, as turret speed and bad visibility limits from shooting back in time.
Tanks in BF 1 seemed to be OP in the open beta. That was because nobody had unlocked and learned to use the rocket gun. Also, the necessity to prone to use it, exposes them for too long and they die before they fire a shot. Damage has been tweaked, self repair reduced from 30(!!!) to single random digits. I saw other tankers complain about the changes. That's when you see a skill gap appearing. Yes, I would be slightly better with more armor and quick repair, but I can adapt.
I personally would prefer a mix of BF4 and BF1's tank mechanics. The best of both worlds.
"the turret is clunky and slow" while said turret is butter-smooth and turns about thrice as fast compared to its real-life counter-part...
it seems like whateve dice does, with battlefield whether it's historically accurate or not, it always seems to screw up. People are never happy. Like why does everything need such detail to be enjoyable? Doesn't matter if you are a tanker, a pilot or an infantry player. Games, especially battlefield, gives you so many options of gunplay, mechanics and different kinds of gameplay styles. Why is it so hard to move on? I get that everyone has a favorite battlefield, but sometimes a new game is a stepping stone to further, improved development of a serie.
What i don't like are the burst firing guns, i'll probably get annoyed by getting killed by an STG in this game, its basicly a ww2 hellriegel.
@@lustrazor44 that's why i'll mostly play firestorm mode bcs that's expected there.
@@lustrazor44 I like the hardcore mechanics since it makes you WORK for that perfect score
@@lustrazor44
More Arcady and casual? Try again
@@lustrazor44 Stop complaining about how arcady it is and then talk about how realism is bad.
Been a fan of the battlefield series since BF1942 first came out. I Probably have played the battlefield series more than most games except for a select few, but regardless. I tried the tanks in the BFV beta and loved them. You see, a tank in BFV is supposed to move up with the infantry on your "team" in a support kind of way. A tank that over extends can be overwhelmed by infantry very quickly, especially in tight environments where mines can be placed all around the tank and hit with barrages of anti-tank weapons. Use smoke to retreat and repair/rearm.
The only exception to this rule of lone wolf tanking really would be if you were in an area with a very slim amount of cover and you were extremely good at picking off targets quickly from all sides, just pray you can rearm quickly enough before infantry gets the jump on you. If you have a gunner and or an engineer, your likely hood to survive increases.
A tank can seem OP when you have an opposing team that works together to an extent and your team is running around trying to play "lone" wolf. Battlefield has always been a squad based game in conquest modes in terms of tactics. Some players will keep throwing themselves at the meat grinder by thinking their "skill" will overpower the opposing team and other players will try to think of a strategy on how to get around the meat grinder, attack it from the flanks and or push the team out by capturing a less defended Flag point. You know who will win, or least put up a damn good fight and a good game.
You dont know ANYTHING, do you. Battlefield 4 is the days of modern tanks, including the modern Russian T90S and the sleek and strong US M1A2 Abrams. These tanks are strong and have a decent speed, having the T90S go a little bit faster. Battlefield I is supposed to be World War I, where the first tank ever made comes into play. The Mark I. The tank was slow, break-worthy, and very unreliable. Battlefield V. You're the worst at this one. The developers of the game wanted to show the realism of the game in tanks by adding it in. The Panzer 38t is fast, has an acceleration that is decent, and has a bad cannon, because it is light. The Panzer IV tanks are medium tanks, being slow, and unreliable around 1944. The Tiger. One of the best tanks, trailing behind the M4, had the worst engine of all, breaking down a lot, needed repairing a lot of the time, but the armour was super thick, and had a great KwK 88 cannon that can puncture anything. The Sturmtiger was the same thing as the Tiger, different model as on a Jagdpanther base, but with the chassis of a Tiger I. Good armour, bad engine, and a whopping deadly 350mm rocket cannon. The British side however is the same. Valentine is a good light tank, its fast, and has a better cannon than the 38t. The Churchill is slow, but had a decent pounder gun. The Churchill gun carrier, one of the unique ones, was the same, but with a larger cannon, as it was a tank destroyer. That is realism for you. Now please do research before you criticize developers on a game that try their hardest on a game full of action packed fun and tons of realism. It's best for everyone, instead of calling every tank in Battlefield V a vacuum cleaner.
480mm rocket, how could the gun be 350mm?
fuck
I agree on the turret traverse speed. When I started playing the beta today and I got in a tank, I was SHOCKED at how slow the traverse speed was
Lol, bf4 tanks are piss easy to destroy with all the lock ons and laser targetting, not to mention air power. As for "forced" loadouts in bf1, everyone was always running the same things in 4, either because the rest was gutted, too situational, or required actual teamwork to function at least somewhat consistently.
Tanks are about maintaining a team's momentum, not spearheading attacks yolo style. Red Orchestra 2 did them mostly right.
If it's brawling you seek, then yes, bf4 tanks and bfbc2 tanks are top notch for that and your opinion is indeed valid. I mean, agile tanks made sense in the nervous, action-pumped BC formula. But on large scale games, it gets annoying to have Sonic the TankHog farming kills like it's some sort of arcade game.
it was easy to sit back in the tanks in BF5 because no one had the panzerschreck, a lot of people didnt realize you have to unlock weapons at the home screen, I was owning in a tank until the end of the beta when most players unlocked the panzerschreck, now being out in the open was a death sentence in a tank. it will also get a lot harder when other players unlock more powerful weapons like mortars etc.
Tanks are supposed to be heavy, slow and powerfull. The only problem I have with them in Battlefield 5 is that they don't require any teamwork unlike Battlefield 1
I think they should have made roles for the tanks like in Red Orchestra 2 where you you at least need 3 people to be effective.
It could have been super fun to wreak havoc on the enemy team with 4 of your friends.
Still a great video nonetheless. :)
As a tank hunter in bf5 the dynamite only does low damage when you don’t hit the tank in the right spot just like how the shells if they either hit in the wrong area or ricochet. You can take out one of the strongest armored tanks like a tiger 1 with 3 sticks of dynamite and an m1a1 rocket launcher, having such an op opponent as an infantry just makes it more fun ive had to get creative to pull off some kills on some tanks because of how op they are but still a good video rly like ur stuff
Hes complaining about historically accurate and true tanks, tank are supposed to be sluggish and clunky. Im sorry real life got in the way of your toxic beliefs for tanks
i see what you mean
Gameplay > “realism”
@@zachb1706 you opinion
The reason why the tanks are slow is because one most of the tanks in bf5 are heavy tanks so they're meant to be slow and heavy tanks are normally used in tank on tank combat which is why people are kill farming the infantry because there's not enough tanks in the first place. The second is that it's actually easy to kill tanks be cause you don't have to use dynamite all the time there's something called a panzer fast which is a rocket launcher and anti tank mines. You can't really say bf5 is the worst because it hasn't been fully released yet so they could add and change a lot of stuff so you can't really say it's the worst because it's only just been the open beta.
O boy that's a real mess from battlefield 5 beta. Now it's pretty cool the mechanics they are grat now and upgrades they absolutely amazing and historically accurate from that time. I'm so excited for the american and the russian updates
I love when he said bf1 tanks just sit on hills and fire, I mean isn’t that what they did in ww1 and even so bf4 tanks were so bs with their zoom in option so they were the ultimate campers.
Try warthunder ,the best tank ganeplay i have ever seen
I think Battlefield 3 had the best tank play of all the different iterations. Smooth tank driving and accurate shots while in 3rd person view was just perfect...then came BF4 and put in a bunch of extra fluff to the gameplay in the form of a million different weapon choices which just muddied the waters too much. SPRUT 4 LIFE. Great Video by the way, you just got me to sub and i look forward to more high quality videos.
BF2 and BF3 tanks are the best.
BF4 tanks are way too Good with far reaching Thermal optics and APs
BF1 tanks are way too easy to get kills in by just staying away from the
objective. High reward and low risk.
- BFV are a bit boring to use.
Graphic .J you've only played on two maps for BFV though, and probably haven't got any of the good attachments and also it's gonna change before full game probably, don't judge too early
Bf2 tanks were hella fun!
@@TehNuTTTer
Like WW2 tanks were
Bf1 tanks aren't easy to use. Especially if you have that one no life that only uses tank hunter in attack planes he will demolish a tank.
I think these setting(limite your ammo,the turret turning speed)will increase the realistic of this game.Although these setting may let you have less fun on it , but indeed these setting let the game closer to the realistic.
No man you wrong tanks in bf1 was not OP- just bad players in bf1 in general + assu class did not have AT gun at that time and every new player trying to figure out what to do and start write angry post on reddit neeeeerf war beegins
There is an element of teamwork in bf1 cos when you’re pushing an objective in anything but a light tank you need you team to protect you and make sure that you don’t get mobbed by assaults
BFV was interesting, but still Screw Women in this, no offense
Edit: Screw the profanity filter
Don't let women ruin the game for you
@@updog4100 can't type nazi, white man, I7 6700K, noob, dlc, jews, Titanfall, lag, laggy...
In game chat
@@jakubgrzybek6181
Because is the chat filter has a bug, but no one say this, only complains...
@@pyotrvrangel7190 because it's only inconvenience... So people complain, the game is for adults, yet Dice thinks Battlefield is Roblox or something and censored chat... And I do not believe that "white man" or "Titanfall" being filtered is a bug.
@@jakubgrzybek6181
White man probably not, but Titanfall? Why it shouldn't be a bug? Whatever yes, the game is for adults, but this doesn't allow people to insult each other
What crazy is how far the tank gameplay on battlefield 5 have changed since this video, I would have never known considering I started playing almost half a year ago.
It's too early man
well feedback is important dont you think ;)
@@TBAG not if you're here to trigger me with your opinion that i'll forget 1 day after, like the one with the worst rifle, i trained myself with the vetterli and its good now.