I greatly respect you and your business. I am based in Barrie Ontario and really appreciate your Canadian Content. I also agree with the choice of Silky saws, however, I disagree on your assessment of Wrangler Star and his knowledge of saws in general. He has a world of experience in use of many types of saws, in Forestry, Fire management, Homesteading, and more. His choices and why chooses them, he shares. His conclusions are for what he needs and what he believes, and often not what Bushcrafters/Preppers may want to choose. Cheers. DHS.
@@robertcritch9896 he had a lot of experience using chainsaws, but when it came to New School saws he was like a person who mastered the typewriter but never used a computer.
@@CanadianPrepper I saw in your video that you've used and maybe owned a pelican kayak, probably an angler, will there be a video about those type of transportation or anything maybe theres one already and I missed it?
I have had my samurai for over a year and a half now and use it daily for the most part. Had the silky and loved it as well until the blade snapped whenever it binded. Went to buy a replacement blade and it was still 20 plus dollars more than the samurai. Have had the samurai bind and bend to a significant amount and I hammered it back flat. I'll keep my samurai 👍
Thank you for sharing your opinion & experience. I've never seen this Canadian prepper before and God willing I will never again. I'm doing diligence before my purchase. I'm figuring on a Samurai but they also make a version with 2 different teeth size so I might end up with that one. Idk
I like both, I buy Ichiban for the performance price. I buy silky for cool points. I have broke 2 silky saws and every time that happens I remember I could buy a whole saw for the price of half a replacement blade. I buy quality and as long as you don't store your tools in water, either saw is top notch.
I just bought one of these Silky saws on the strength of your video here. After 25 years using Felco pruning saws as a professional gardener, I felt like I had woken up from a bad dream. Even the curved blade alone was a complete and utter game changer for me. It means no downward pressure is needed, so suddenly, I am not cursing myself at the end of every cut when I have jumped out into the adjacent stem and damaged it. That just doesn't happen with this saw. And the thickness of the blade is brilliant. No binding and flexing of the blade. As a long term professional, this saw is just stunning. No kidding.
I left Zubat outside by accident (lost it in the woods) for ~18 months and had replaced it....friend found it. Picked it up...the blade was covered with rust but it still went right along cutting with it like it was never used. Was very impressed and I am a big Silky fan.
I often compare increasing price vs, increasing quality in the context of "diminishing returns". And I have yet to find an aspect of my Silky Saws that I would be willing to surrender in order to have saved money.
what makes them good: very hard impuls hardened theet that stay sharp long also makes them bad: not possible to properly sharpen. So they are expensive throwaways not made for long term use
Canadian Prepper are you familiar with the Plumber’s Vice sawing technique? I think I did a video on it a year or so ago. Safe, fast and stable. Try it out, if you haven’t already. Thanks for another honest and real video.
Great video. The proof of a product's true capability comes when that item is used in abusive conditions. This is a great example of how one brand builds a quality product. Nice win for Silky.
Good point. I own both saws Samurai and Silky Zubat. Been using them in quite abusive conditions, pruning hundreds of different fruit trees and many other branches and similar tasks in the last 5-6 years. I must say Zubat is a better quality saw, but for the price of one Zubat you can buy two Samurai Ichibans which cuts very nice indeed and with proper maintenance will last you long as well as Zubat (this test with rust is ok, but why the hell you wanna leave your saw dipping in any water whatsoever? Lol). The binding of the Samurai is no more often than the Silky saws do, it is more the fault of an inexperienced user. People tend to use the same amount of power on both push and pull action of these PULL saws which is absolutely wrong way of using this kind of saws. They cut on the PULL stroke only. I see many of the people in these youtube reviews use it wrong.
Illogical nonsense. How a product stands up to abusive conditions is only valuable if you abuse your tools or need to use them in abusive conditions. If you don't, it's simply over engineering that adds cost to the product for which you receive no benefit.
For the amount I use a saw the Ichiban it is fine. When small I was always instructed to keep my knifes oiled. Since I don't keep my blades in mud and oil them, never had a rust problem. Thru out the manufacturing world including cars, working loads are transferred between different materials so if designed right it should work. So if you don't want to maintain your equipment, afraid of modern design, definitely get the more expensive product.
1. What person soaks their tools in salt water? 2. Read directions it says use a PULL stroke to cut. 3. just bought a Ichiban and it cuts like a dream!!! Love it!
Good video. I’ll be honest, most of your points between the two saws were minor, but I can’t argue with your point of full tang. That is a major difference and a game changer. Thanks
on many occasions wranglerstar mentions that he is aware that silky makes similar saws that preform the same, how ever the point he gets across is that the ichiban is CHEAPER, aswell as the fact that he uses the words "as far as i know" when he states the quality is up to par with a silky, which tells me that a good preforming saw does not need a full tang or a thick blade, because the simple fact of the matter is that the saw preforms well, who cares what the inside looks like when it still reliably gets the job done every time, wrangler star may not know the fine details of a silky or Japanese saw, but is very experienced in the world of woodworking, (probably more than you seeing as how he is a first responder / wild land fire fighter) and is capable of recognizing a good, budget tool.
What you said at 8:15 is spot on! When I go outdoors, ONLY full tang comes with me. I still use a Laplander but a Silky IS in the future purchase plans. Have a friend that "had" a Samurai and was demonstrating it to me when the handle snapped. OUCH (he got 6 stitches)!
Black Knight88 CP Is a big boy even in Canada he is free to market and sell what ever he wants. I said I wish. As a sub I can watch or not watch. Bug out roll vids are getting old that's all . His videos used to have much more substance.
Being a landscaper I use a silky everyday. But there's another useful tool I'd like to have you take a look at that I use everyday. It's called the AM Leonard Deluxe soil knife. I use it everyday for all sorts of things cutting digging it's way better than a hori hori and I think your viewers would be interested in seeing it give it a try at AM Leonard garden tools.
The Tomita Hori Hori is perhaps the epitome of garden knives. I have never used anything nicer, the steel is harder and holds its edge longer than any other garden tool I have ever used. I will only now exclusively buy Tomita, which I do not think I will ever have to since it will never break.
Artik Nanook it can be sharpened like a knife but the concave curve of the blade makes it a challenge to sharpen. But it can be done, the steel is quite hard though.
I used a belt sander to sharpen the smooth side and found a stainless steel Carriage Bolt heated it up and drilled a hole and put it in the top for a pummel.
An excellent well detailed educational video for those of us who are not experts with saws and are in the market for one. I don’t like cheap, I like quality with well thought out products that have qualities that allow them to not only do the job they are supposed to do, but also last!!!
Agreed. I have come to think Wranglerstar is a fraud. He makes a shitload of money on RUclips and is just a product hack peddling stuff for money. Thats OK. Makikng money is fine. But don't protray yourself as this homesteader living on the land............Its just bogus.
I completely agree with you. I got turned on to the silky saws 2 years ago when I was looking for a new compact saw for my backpacking/survival/BOB kit. I looked at many others but decided to try a silky to replace my fixed blade pruning style saw from Stihl and I couldn't be happier. I've got the bigboy 2000xl and I punish mine almost every weekend summer or winter rain or snow and I've got tell you it's worth every penny! I'm still on my first blade with no issues cuts like the day it showed up to this day. Zero oxidization, no signs of bending or wear. The handle is solid. Over all best purchase I've made for my kit. And it's thanks to a video I saw of yours demoing the saw and then wranglerstars comparison to a buck saw that won me over..... Now I'm in the market for a new camp axe/hatchet to replace/upgrade my current Stihl camp axe and I think I'll go back to the same Silky well and get the Nata Chopper! can't wait to place my order.
With all my samurai saws and others I apply a coating of bee's wax to the blade,no rust ever, the only problems with silky is price and it's very easy to break the tips off. take a look at the Ichigeki samurai I've found nothing in a fare price range that cuts faster and better! Your input is always appreciated in all the content you put out and it's not a dig at what your saying about this make.all the best from the UK.
The Silky has two 90 degree angles near the neck; where the handle meets the blade, which is a weak point to begin with and is now even weaker because of those two 90 degree angles.. It's extremely likely to break at those points. The Ichiban is actually built similar to the saw my father used while he was a professional arborist. He used a Fanno Pruning saw for a lot of work and it too does not have a full tang. Fanno FI-1311 - Based on blade design alone I'd pick the Ichiban over the Silky. It's only downside is how thin it is.
I have a 10 year old Ibuki, and an 8 year old Katanaboy and Hyuchi pole saw. I use them professionally A LOT under tough conditions and they are still great cutting saws. They wear out the scabbards well before they wear out the saws. You get what you pay for and the only great saws produced and sold are made by Silky.
Wow so much Bahco hate. So, I've had a Bahco for several years now and have been watching everyone talk about silkies and the silkies versus Bahco and every time it comes up someone always says, 'as long as you're using it correctly.' I've never heard anyone qualify anything about the Bahco because it broke. I've never seen a video where somebody showing off their busted Bahco. I'd get a nice silky if they made them as thick as they do the 500 or the 1000. It's a simple matter of 'man, what if I just don't treat this finicky princess just right once'? I can mistreat a Bahco andI'll still have a whole saw. If I mistreat a silky, I'm picking up pieces. That's why I was thinking maybe an extra millimeter and a half on the thickness of those smaller saws (and with a straight blade, it's hard to make notches with a curved blade) that's what I'm waiting for.
So, I went looking for a broken Bahco saw on YT. The other comments about snapped Silky blades and the resulting probability of injury concerns me specifically as I wouldn't want to hurt myself or a family member away from help. I did find the following video while searching for the a broken Bahco. ruclips.net/video/8OS-qIkWVDE/видео.html. Further, as this CP video was aimed at educating another YT contributor, I don't think the profound lack of proper tool care and maintenance are normal to that individual. It's not that I'm contemplating disposing of my 650 or other Silky saws but am grateful for the knowledge of not allowing anyone else to use the saws.
@@KenGray Bahco sturdiness and flexibility comes not from thickness of the blade (even the opposite, thick blades tend to break more instead of bending) but from its alloy composition and heat threat.
@@Temporalplace though heat treat does play a role in the toughness of the blade, it is incontrovertible that the bigger the saw the thicker the blade when it comes to Silky's line. That being the case, when it really hits the fan, princesses have to put up or shut up. I can't loan my saw out to somebody and have a two-hour instructional session to teach them how to use it. It's got to work the first time, every time, every person. No ifs, ands, buts, qualifications, or provisos.
So, we came back from a camping trip here in Colorado, and due to the fire bans, we couldn't even use a chain saw. I decided that I should get a good saw. I have a silk folding saw but wanted something fixed. A low and behold this video comes up! So, I bought this Silky Zubat 330mm. Going again next week, so we'll give it a try. I normally hate gear reviews but this one was good.
I agree, one needs a tool that will not let them down. You sold me on the Zumbat' several moths ago, I have used it and I am very pleased with the quality and performance. Great purchase .
Being a landscaper I just karate chop all the wood; it's cheaper than buying a saw and no rust! ( done the rust test by sticking my hands in a bucket of salty water, then rubbing them in fresh herbs , egg, breadcrumbs and baking for 20 minutes on 250°C - no rust, how about that! Ha )
Great video! Silky is the best hands down. But there are a lot of "Made in Japan" cheaper alternatives here in Japan that I'd like to see head to head testing that I'm curious about.
I would not recommend either for use in the woods. This type of saw can easily snap. I am a professional arborist and use these saws all the time. They are not made for cutting 4 inch logs. The right saw for the job is a folding bowsaw . You will never see CP do a head to head with a boreal 21
*KK Prepper* May dad had two pruning saws. One was an old Craftsman saw and the other was a cheap bow saw. I used both extensively when I was a kid and never had a problem with either. My dad showed me how to properly cut with them and they greedily chewed through whatever I fed them. 4” logs were a bit of work but doable. Bigger logs were just too much work for a hand saw but he had an axe for those. Letting a 10 year old use saws and axes unsupervised today would probably net a visit from DCFS. Any problems people encounter using Silky Saws are caused by their refusal to learn proper technique. When my brother tried to cut with the bow saw he bent the shit out of the blade because he wouldn’t listen when I tried to tell him the proper way to cut. Craftsman pruning saw: toolmade.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/dscn2240.jpg?w=1197&h=480
KK Prepper 4" lol. Silky bigboy2000 , over 20 trees most over 10" just in my back yard. Felled, bucked and burnt... half a days work with beer in hand.
Randar, you got a thumbs up from me. I still can't believe how efficient a silky or silky-type saw is in processing wood. In Canada an axe is more important than a knife, & I can add that a saw is more useful than an axe. Yes, I've used trees & roots to lever/break branches into fire friendly size pieces, but if you have to process a lot of wood for cooking, warmth & shelter...I would rather have a Silky saw over any axe, any day...talk about energy saving!
To me, you sounded rather invested. Needing to prove something. Thing is, Wranglerstar is kind of a teacher more than anything, and one thing he does is testing out cheaper tools to test if they're useful. And most of us aren't preparing for any doomsday (and if I did that, I'd bring blades for a bow saw as they're ligtht and the saw itself is rather easy to make with a knife, some wood and preferably a bit of cordage). You show some weaknesses with the Samurai and that's okay, but at half the price most of us recognize there are tradeoffs. And what many of us need is something light and quick to take out and use, while being relatively safe it can last us through the day. Or perhaps even a week. And the most important question becomes "what is the most saw you can get for your money"? Premiere saws like the Silky ones have their place, but so does the Samurai. And if you were doeing a balanced review, you would have done more to acknowledge that.
I have had the Ichiban saw for three years now and it's still sharp as hell and cuts better than my Silky. I like my Silky also but it is more expensive. I have never left my Ichiban or Silky soaking in water as I take care of my tools before and after use so if you don't take care of your saw or tools than you get what you get.
I have a Samurai and really like it. But I believe your work here The Silky is better all around. I think the full tang is the biggest selling point. So much stronger. The rust test is in my opinion bogus. I wipe down my saw after every use. I don't store it in brine. OK, the Silky is more rustproof, but I don't think its a factor if you take care of your saw. If my Samurai breaks, my next saw will be a Zabat for sure, but I am not going to lose a lot of sleep over it.
So I carry 2 saws when I'm camping, huntinf and practicing bush crafting and survival. A silky pull saw for cutting allot of fire wood fast for fires and cutting lots of logs fast for shelter building and a folding bow saw strapped to my pack for cutting notches and more fine detailed work. It comes in handy for notching logs for building structures and tools.
I used a small folding saw for a few years then i got the silky bigboy2000 after watching a video.. I have owned it for 6mo now, i love that it ajusts and cuts great The only thing i dont like is it can unfold easily and snag your hand!!..after my first mishap i use velcro to wrap it together to hold in place while walking through the woods.
This video seems extremely biased, I own both and always go for the samurai when I use one, just because silky does not know how to build an ergonomic grip, this is not 1800's, learn how to build an ergo grip!, and I wipe down the saw after using it with oil because its just a good practice, like cleaning your tools so the silly corrosion resistance test results would make no difference when used by an adult.
Dude, did I just watch the same vid as you? As someone evaluating a purchase do I benefit by knowing that one blade rusts way more than the other and is substantially weaker? Of course! And given that the superior steel and full tang only costs a little more, why go with the product that will fail far more quickly?
I totally agree CP there is ABSOLUTELY no way im sending my son or myself into the wilderness with cheap crap! Especially when thats all you have to get you and your family through a long term or even a short term survival situation...no no no...buy the best that you can because these items are all that you will have to depend on make sure you can depend on them!!÷
I don't think Wranglerstar is going to store his saws in a brine solution.. I think bushcrafters are going to keep their tools clean and serviceable. Also WranglerStar wasn't comparing the Ichiban to that saw. His comparison was between Silky folding saws which do not have full tangs as well.
I have every silky saw except the katana, but the samurai inchiban Is honestly better. I would say 10-20% better cutting, im shocked you cant see the difference. Better cutting, better handle, and cleans better. I don't care if its full tang its a freak ing saw, they break easily or bend. Ive destroyed multiple silkys so its not like it makes much of a difference. When you cut logs to big you risk destroying the blade whether its full tang or not. I love my silky saws for 1 because they have a lot of models and 2 because its a great 2 hand saw which I use on large logs.
I have a samurai and 4 silky's and maintain a large property and i do use my samurai allot more. If i could only have one saw for the rest of my life it would be a silky but when I'm picking a saw to work hard in the wood lot or on the farm i pick my samurai every time. Maybe i don't know what I'm taking about but i could use any saw i want and have my pick of them and i just keep use the samurai over my sugoi or my big boy.
Good comparison video, for me, my dad taught me when i was a kid,(a few more decades ago than i care to admit), "Buy quality once, and have no regrets". After SHTF money will loose all meaning anyway! For me, as long as it can be sharpened it would be good, if not, not for me.
Yay, so many internet warriors here, the silky didn't really win it wasn't a fight. Budget vs cheap, there is a huge difference between the 2, both are budget options and either is fine if MAINTAINED properly, oil your blades, dry and monitor them, replace the blades as needed. Tang comparison isn't exactly the same between a knife and a saw, very few saws that are pack friendly are used with the tang option due to the size constraints. Weight is a factor to some, a lighter item isn't a poor item it is just designed differently. The axe comment, a lighter axe can split better than a heavy axe, it's the shape more than the weight in all honesty for how an axe will perform, yes a heavier axe does more work but a saw isn't dependent on weight it is reliant on the way the tooth will cut and weight is just what you control if you want to snap a blade or not, I have snapped a silky blade a few times being to aggressive with my cuts. Finally, internet warriors, grow up, Canadian prepper even said not to bash wrangler star because you idiots don't even understand the first thing about doing something with your hands, go try and build a bridge and see if it works half as well as his did, I dare you.
I'm sorry to say that in reading some of your commenters, that I replied in kind (maybe a little unkind). But your video is the reason that I am a subscriber. You do tell it as you see it, and if you did not do as you do, then you would not stand out among the armchair survivor/prepper multitude. Good job, keep it up. We need a bit of truth the you tube universe.
Had a Zubat 13" for years. Cuts like a champ. Good demonstration. While im not worried about rust so much I think that shows the steel. Hopefully you can get the Zubat 330 back in stock
I love the silky bigboy 2000. It just shreds everything. I had to take down oak tree limb at my moms place that was getting dangerous. Around 8" thick. Before my brother could even pull out the chainsaw, I was already most of the way though with the silky. I laughed and him. "Phhhtt, chainsaws."
Thanks for the video. I am still considering a saw for my INCH bag but it is already very heavy, and I need to cut weight. I figure if I gave up the hatchet and got a saw instead I could lighten the load. My big problem is everytime I make changes, hoping to lighten the bag or make more room i end up adding more than i take away. I hate to give up the hatchet because it has many uses but i do have an SCH 52 which is a pretty good chopper, and saws could come in handy for many applications too. Like i said, I am still considering getting one but i want good quality and preferably a good price.
For the record; I've had a Laplander for almost 10 years. It has been a wonderful tool and still works just fine to this day. I can concede that it isn't superior to a Silky F180 (closest comparison). I have both and the Silky has deeper teeth and cuts much faster. However, the Laplander is a well made tool; reliable, durable, and has replacement blades available. If the Silky would fit my custom kydex it would get more use on the trail.
I saw some reviews on amazon where they said silky saws were breaking, but based on everything else i'm seeing I think those people don't use them properly. going to get one after seeing this video, thanks!
It depends on intended usage. For light infrequent use like trimming a small green limb once in a while or filming a overnighter with a tiny fire go with the cheaper less dependable one. If you need a saw for heavy duty everyday wood cutting, get the Silky! I found one of those Corona razor saws out in the shed that was all rusted up and dull as butter knife and I put a good file and saw tooth set on it and man! does this this slice through dry hard wood. I don't think I'll ever need any other saw now that I know how to file the angles on the saw teeth and how to set the teeth so they cut wider than the blade so it doesn't bind up.
I'm so glad I watched this video, I almost took the bait on the Samurai Ichiban. I had watched Wrangler Star and Gideon"s Tactical (the other guy) videos before I watched your video and I really appreciated your complete comparison. I'm going with the Silky Zubat 330mm.
I have 2 silky gunfighters (270 and 330) for tree work in Arizona. I wouldn’t have it any other way. Super cool look/feel and the blade swap is the quickest and easiest
Prepper has a real eye for good product and he clearly does use the stuff he sells. He came up with a Bug Out Roll on his own. Give the guy some credit.
Dipping them in saline solution for WEEKS = fishing for a "problem" that doesn't exist in the real world unless you're a completely careless nincompoop! I've used my Ichiban for over two years now without an issue. I clean it with oven cleaner when pitch builds up on it and give it a light oiling of wd-40 and it's as good as the day I bought it.
Survival Theory I personally use a folding bowsaw. But if I were to use a hand saw in the woods. Bahco would be my choice. Shorter with less flex. Not the fastest cutter. But will out live any silky any day.
I've had my Bahco for years with no problems. Yes, it isn't the fastest cutter, but so small and lightweight. I'm not always building a log cabin in the woods, so it does fine. I have another off brand folding saw that is a bit larger, and it does the job also.
So, the other day I was cutting some wood by the ocean (kinda unlikely) and accidently left my saw in the wet salty sand for a day. Wow! I was so surprised when it rusted! Where I live we don't have salt rivers or lakes. So, to get a saw wet from salt you HAVE to be at the ocean. But then later I was sawing up a very rare SALT TREE. Sure enough my saw did rust! Who would have imagined! LOL!
Thing is, the vast majority of people are not buying these saws to survive on, including homesteaders who would have many other saws to boot. Homesteaders take much better care of their tools anyway so wont run into most if not all of the problems relating to the ichiban saw. If people choose to use this as the part of their toolbox to skimp on, and arent using it in a prepper/survival scenario, it wont affect them nearly as much as skimping in other areas. I can totally see why people should choose the ichiban over the silky, even if I would choose the silky hands down.
TheStaniG, I agree...sometimes economics plays a role in our decision making. But we can all hope that someday we will be able to purchase that "dream car" or silky saw.
I used to sell saws and also sawed with them but realized I was sawing more and more started using using the saws I was supposed be selling and the whole thing spiraled out of control and my bushcraft life crumbled around me. I started attending bushcraft anonymous groups and slowly rebuilt my outdoor life and am ready to go on a weekend camping trip next weekend.
So until Silky puts in Ventilation Holes in their Sheaths, why not just drill a few on each side of the Sheath? 3-5 holes 1/8 inch in diameter down the length should be enough. And one at the bottom for drainage if you have to cross a Stream. Thanks again for the Video.
Send WS one to review along side his own saw, i think that would be good for both channels. Glad to see good arguments no channel bashing. Way to support eachother. Maybe a collab take ur own saw and battle it out together.
I know people probably doubt your loyalty because of being a dealer but I remember before you ever sold them how highly your rates them but I’ve got 2 silly saws and it’s the best saw I’ve ever used hands down gonboi and katana I believe is the other model and I’ve been nothing but impressed you do need to learn a pull stroke so you’re less likely to snap it but I haven’t had any issues yet because of how flexible the blade is and the teeth and hardened just perfectly
Yeah, the silky is better. But the samurai is good enough and I can get four of them for the price of a single silky. I will continue to buy samurai and just replace it every couple years.
The Japanese have been doing incredible wood work and joinery for millennium without the use of metal joining devices. I liken these tests to doing an oil quality test. For example, compare a quart of Mobil 1 motor oil to any other oils you can buy over the counter. Take those oils and put them in a deep freezer for 24 hours. Remove them at the same time and do a pour test and see which one flows more easily out of the bottle first. Silky saws have my vote of confidence for what they are purposed for.
Damn, I wish I had watched this video before I ordered a samurai saw on Amazon - I also saw your review where they kept on pushing back the delivery date.
I also own both and I prefer my Samurai GC-300-LH 12" it’s a smoother cutting saw yeah it’s not full tang but i’ve beat the hell out of it and it still going strong.
@@funkingitup1805 wishing someone had the Corona?! 😳 Covid jokes aside, I've got the Corona saw because that was what I grabbed from my local Ace to clean up my yard. I'm curious to compare to a Silky.
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I greatly respect you and your business. I am based in Barrie Ontario and really appreciate your Canadian Content. I also agree with the choice of Silky saws, however, I disagree on your assessment of Wrangler Star and his knowledge of saws in general. He has a world of experience in use of many types of saws, in Forestry, Fire management, Homesteading, and more. His choices and why chooses them, he shares. His conclusions are for what he needs and what he believes, and often not what Bushcrafters/Preppers may want to choose. Cheers. DHS.
@@robertcritch9896 he had a lot of experience using chainsaws, but when it came to New School saws he was like a person who mastered the typewriter but never used a computer.
Canadian Prepper Why are some items priced in USD and others CDN?
@@EarthlyVibes Its all USD, due to entry inconsistency on website, we are slowly updating all 1000+products
@@CanadianPrepper I saw in your video that you've used and maybe owned a pelican kayak, probably an angler, will there be a video about those type of transportation or anything maybe theres one already and I missed it?
I have had my samurai for over a year and a half now and use it daily for the most part. Had the silky and loved it as well until the blade snapped whenever it binded. Went to buy a replacement blade and it was still 20 plus dollars more than the samurai. Have had the samurai bind and bend to a significant amount and I hammered it back flat. I'll keep my samurai 👍
I forgot to mention how I use it daily. I'm a climbing arborist.
Aight I'm sold, thanks for the info. Not just from this obviously but I've been on the fence lol
Thank you for sharing your opinion & experience.
I've never seen this Canadian prepper before and God willing I will never again.
I'm doing diligence before my purchase.
I'm figuring on a Samurai but they also make a version with 2 different teeth size so I might end up with that one. Idk
I was going to buy one but then I got an ad at 3:05 for the new 2018 Honda Goldwing so I bought that instead.
Thomas is it free.
DId you know you can ave 15% on insurance be switching to GEICO? - seems to me you should have gotten my commercial for me :D
Logical Nerd that is funny
your honda vs my silky saw, lets see which survives :D
I didn't, but then again I wasn't either. 🧐
I like both, I buy Ichiban for the performance price. I buy silky for cool points. I have broke 2 silky saws and every time that happens I remember I could buy a whole saw for the price of half a replacement blade. I buy quality and as long as you don't store your tools in water, either saw is top notch.
I just bought one of these Silky saws on the strength of your video here. After 25 years using Felco pruning saws as a professional gardener, I felt like I had woken up from a bad dream. Even the curved blade alone was a complete and utter game changer for me. It means no downward pressure is needed, so suddenly, I am not cursing myself at the end of every cut when I have jumped out into the adjacent stem and damaged it. That just doesn't happen with this saw. And the thickness of the blade is brilliant. No binding and flexing of the blade. As a long term professional, this saw is just stunning. No kidding.
I left Zubat outside by accident (lost it in the woods) for ~18 months and had replaced it....friend found it. Picked it up...the blade was covered with rust but it still went right along cutting with it like it was never used. Was very impressed and I am a big Silky fan.
I often compare increasing price vs, increasing quality in the context of "diminishing returns". And I have yet to find an aspect of my Silky Saws that I would be willing to surrender in order to have saved money.
what makes them good: very hard impuls hardened theet that stay sharp long also makes them bad: not possible to properly sharpen. So they are expensive throwaways not made for long term use
I do not suggest cutting on the knee in shtf!
Its not "on" the knee, its to the side of it.
I used to be a prepper like you until I took a Silky to the knee
Canadian Prepper are you familiar with the Plumber’s Vice sawing technique? I think I did a video on it a year or so ago. Safe, fast and stable. Try it out, if you haven’t already. Thanks for another honest and real video.
I think Wranglerstar has a video on proper sawing technique.
@@kkprepper950 lol get him bro
Great video. The proof of a product's true capability comes when that item is used in abusive conditions. This is a great example of how one brand builds a quality product. Nice win for Silky.
D B true true!
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Good point. I own both saws Samurai and Silky Zubat. Been using them in quite abusive conditions, pruning hundreds of different fruit trees and many other branches and similar tasks in the last 5-6 years. I must say Zubat is a better quality saw, but for the price of one Zubat you can buy two Samurai Ichibans which cuts very nice indeed and with proper maintenance will last you long as well as Zubat (this test with rust is ok, but why the hell you wanna leave your saw dipping in any water whatsoever? Lol). The binding of the Samurai is no more often than the Silky saws do, it is more the fault of an inexperienced user. People tend to use the same amount of power on both push and pull action of these PULL saws which is absolutely wrong way of using this kind of saws. They cut on the PULL stroke only. I see many of the people in these youtube reviews use it wrong.
Illogical nonsense. How a product stands up to abusive conditions is only valuable if you abuse your tools or need to use them in abusive conditions. If you don't, it's simply over engineering that adds cost to the product for which you receive no benefit.
For the amount I use a saw the Ichiban it is fine. When small I was always instructed to keep my knifes oiled. Since I don't keep my blades in mud and oil them, never had a rust problem. Thru out the manufacturing world including cars, working loads are transferred between different materials so if designed right it should work. So if you don't want to maintain your equipment, afraid of modern design, definitely get the more expensive product.
1. What person soaks their tools in salt water? 2. Read directions it says use a PULL stroke to cut. 3. just bought a Ichiban and it cuts like a dream!!! Love it!
lol "I was a long time user before I was a dealer"@1:45
Lol, so silky for prepping, and Ichiban for gardening, got it.
I'd rather have full tang thank you.
Good video. I’ll be honest, most of your points between the two saws were minor, but I can’t argue with your point of full tang. That is a major difference and a game changer. Thanks
It's a saw though, not a main knife. Is your folding saw full tang? Is your axe full tang? Unless it's an Estwing, probably not.
on many occasions wranglerstar mentions that he is aware that silky makes similar saws that preform the same, how ever the point he gets across is that the ichiban is CHEAPER, aswell as the fact that he uses the words "as far as i know" when he states the quality is up to par with a silky, which tells me that a good preforming saw does not need a full tang or a thick blade, because the simple fact of the matter is that the saw preforms well, who cares what the inside looks like when it still reliably gets the job done every time, wrangler star may not know the fine details of a silky or Japanese saw, but is very experienced in the world of woodworking, (probably more than you seeing as how he is a first responder / wild land fire fighter) and is capable of recognizing a good, budget tool.
What you said at 8:15 is spot on! When I go outdoors, ONLY full tang comes with me. I still use a Laplander but a Silky IS in the future purchase plans. Have a friend that "had" a Samurai and was demonstrating it to me when the handle snapped. OUCH (he got 6 stitches)!
Also I wish CP would start do prep vids again. Seems like he is always selling something
I understand making a living. That's not why he started his channel, and it's not why I watch
Black Knight88 CP Is a big boy even in Canada he is free to market and sell what ever he wants. I said I wish. As a sub I can watch or not watch. Bug out roll vids are getting old that's all . His videos used to have much more substance.
a youtube channel devoted to pushing an agenda to sell overpriced shit? no way, that could never happen! (sarcasm)
Agreed 500%. This guy is completely safety stupid and biased. Prompting his business. Money, money !!!!!
Being a landscaper I use a silky everyday. But there's another useful tool I'd like to have you take a look at that I use everyday. It's called the AM Leonard Deluxe soil knife. I use it everyday for all sorts of things cutting digging it's way better than a hori hori and I think your viewers would be interested in seeing it give it a try at AM Leonard garden tools.
The Tomita Hori Hori is perhaps the epitome of garden knives. I have never used anything nicer, the steel is harder and holds its edge longer than any other garden tool I have ever used. I will only now exclusively buy Tomita, which I do not think I will ever have to since it will never break.
That can be sharpened as well as a knife?
Artik Nanook it can be sharpened like a knife but the concave curve of the blade makes it a challenge to sharpen. But it can be done, the steel is quite hard though.
I used a belt sander to sharpen the smooth side and found a stainless steel Carriage Bolt heated it up and drilled a hole and put it in the top for a pummel.
Thank you sir
An excellent well detailed educational video for those of us who are not experts with saws and are in the market for one.
I don’t like cheap, I like quality with well thought out products that have qualities that allow them to not only do the job they are supposed to do, but also last!!!
Side note: I would definitely think out my videos content a little more though and learn the plumbers vise for cutting.
Great vid. I thought it was hilarious how you used a salt grinder to make the saline solution! 😂That gave me a chuckle for some reason. 👍
Wranglerstar knows axes. I love watching him working on them and talking about all the history for each style type and usage.
I agree Cody is a great guy
“He doesn’t know a whole lot about saws" You got that right. Doesn't know a whole lot about a lot of things but talks a good game.
Agreed. I have come to think Wranglerstar is a fraud. He makes a shitload of money on RUclips and is just a product hack peddling stuff for money. Thats OK. Makikng money is fine. But don't protray yourself as this homesteader living on the land............Its just bogus.
And this is why it's good to watch several videos and reviews on products
I completely agree with you. I got turned on to the silky saws 2 years ago when I was looking for a new compact saw for my backpacking/survival/BOB kit. I looked at many others but decided to try a silky to replace my fixed blade pruning style saw from Stihl and I couldn't be happier. I've got the bigboy 2000xl and I punish mine almost every weekend summer or winter rain or snow and I've got tell you it's worth every penny! I'm still on my first blade with no issues cuts like the day it showed up to this day. Zero oxidization, no signs of bending or wear. The handle is solid. Over all best purchase I've made for my kit. And it's thanks to a video I saw of yours demoing the saw and then wranglerstars comparison to a buck saw that won me over.....
Now I'm in the market for a new camp axe/hatchet to replace/upgrade my current Stihl camp axe and I think I'll go back to the same Silky well and get the Nata Chopper! can't wait to place my order.
With all my samurai saws and others I apply a coating of bee's wax to the blade,no rust ever, the only problems with silky is price and it's very easy to break the tips off. take a look at the Ichigeki samurai I've found nothing in a fare price range that cuts faster and better! Your input is always appreciated in all the content you put out and it's not a dig at what your saying about this make.all the best from the UK.
And another video that just shows how knowledgeable Canadian Prepper is. Real experience makes for real knowledge.
Thumbs up. You said exactly what I was feeling.
CP knowledge or your lack of
AWESOME VIDEO!!! Thank you for wanting to give honest review and good product. You have another subscriber here!
I've owned their Pocket boy folder with scabbard and its hands down the BEST!!!
I know you're just doing a saw review but I'm a painter and your sense of composition is great!
preppers are just consumers. wranglerstar a real human
The Silky has two 90 degree angles near the neck; where the handle meets the blade, which is a weak point to begin with and is now even weaker because of those two 90 degree angles.. It's extremely likely to break at those points. The Ichiban is actually built similar to the saw my father used while he was a professional arborist. He used a Fanno Pruning saw for a lot of work and it too does not have a full tang. Fanno FI-1311 - Based on blade design alone I'd pick the Ichiban over the Silky. It's only downside is how thin it is.
I have a 10 year old Ibuki, and an 8 year old Katanaboy and Hyuchi pole saw. I use them professionally A LOT under tough conditions and they are still great cutting saws. They wear out the scabbards well before they wear out the saws. You get what you pay for and the only great saws produced and sold are made by Silky.
Wow so much Bahco hate. So, I've had a Bahco for several years now and have been watching everyone talk about silkies and the silkies versus Bahco and every time it comes up someone always says, 'as long as you're using it correctly.' I've never heard anyone qualify anything about the Bahco because it broke. I've never seen a video where somebody showing off their busted Bahco. I'd get a nice silky if they made them as thick as they do the 500 or the 1000. It's a simple matter of 'man, what if I just don't treat this finicky princess just right once'? I can mistreat a Bahco andI'll still have a whole saw. If I mistreat a silky, I'm picking up pieces. That's why I was thinking maybe an extra millimeter and a half on the thickness of those smaller saws (and with a straight blade, it's hard to make notches with a curved blade) that's what I'm waiting for.
Ken Gray silky does make a small straight blade
Quinn Warman yes, but very thin.
So, I went looking for a broken Bahco saw on YT. The other comments about snapped Silky blades and the resulting probability of injury concerns me specifically as I wouldn't want to hurt myself or a family member away from help. I did find the following video while searching for the a broken Bahco. ruclips.net/video/8OS-qIkWVDE/видео.html. Further, as this CP video was aimed at educating another YT contributor, I don't think the profound lack of proper tool care and maintenance are normal to that individual. It's not that I'm contemplating disposing of my 650 or other Silky saws but am grateful for the knowledge of not allowing anyone else to use the saws.
@@KenGray Bahco sturdiness and flexibility comes not from thickness of the blade (even the opposite, thick blades tend to break more instead of bending) but from its alloy composition and heat threat.
@@Temporalplace though heat treat does play a role in the toughness of the blade, it is incontrovertible that the bigger the saw the thicker the blade when it comes to Silky's line. That being the case, when it really hits the fan, princesses have to put up or shut up. I can't loan my saw out to somebody and have a two-hour instructional session to teach them how to use it. It's got to work the first time, every time, every person. No ifs, ands, buts, qualifications, or provisos.
So, we came back from a camping trip here in Colorado, and due to the fire bans, we couldn't even use a chain saw. I decided that I should get a good saw. I have a silk folding saw but wanted something fixed. A low and behold this video comes up! So, I bought this Silky Zubat 330mm. Going again next week, so we'll give it a try. I normally hate gear reviews but this one was good.
I agree, one needs a tool that will not let them down.
You sold me on the Zumbat' several moths ago, I have used it and I am very pleased with the quality and performance.
Great purchase .
Being a landscaper I just karate chop all the wood; it's cheaper than buying a saw and no rust! ( done the rust test by sticking my hands in a bucket of salty water, then rubbing them in fresh herbs , egg, breadcrumbs and baking for 20 minutes on 250°C - no rust, how about that! Ha )
Great video! Silky is the best hands down. But there are a lot of "Made in Japan" cheaper alternatives here in Japan that I'd like to see head to head testing that I'm curious about.
I would not recommend either for use in the woods. This type of saw can easily snap. I am a professional arborist and use these saws all the time. They are not made for cutting 4 inch logs. The right saw for the job is a folding bowsaw . You will never see CP do a head to head with a boreal 21
KK Prepper , watch Survival Russia on youtube to get an idea of what can be done with these types of saws.
I have. I didn't say they won't cut I said no pruning saw will last the torture put on them in the woods. Do you know what a bowsaw is?
*KK Prepper*
May dad had two pruning saws. One was an old Craftsman saw and the other was a cheap bow saw. I used both extensively when I was a kid and never had a problem with either.
My dad showed me how to properly cut with them and they greedily chewed through whatever I fed them. 4” logs were a bit of work but doable. Bigger logs were just too much work for a hand saw but he had an axe for those.
Letting a 10 year old use saws and axes unsupervised today would probably net a visit from DCFS.
Any problems people encounter using Silky Saws are caused by their refusal to learn proper technique. When my brother tried to cut with the bow saw he bent the shit out of the blade because he wouldn’t listen when I tried to tell him the proper way to cut.
Craftsman pruning saw: toolmade.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/dscn2240.jpg?w=1197&h=480
KK Prepper 4" lol. Silky bigboy2000 , over 20 trees most over 10" just in my back yard. Felled, bucked and burnt... half a days work with beer in hand.
Randar, you got a thumbs up from me. I still can't believe how efficient a silky or silky-type saw is in processing wood. In Canada an axe is more important than a knife, & I can add that a saw is more useful than an axe. Yes, I've used trees & roots to lever/break branches into fire friendly size pieces, but if you have to process a lot of wood for cooking, warmth & shelter...I would rather have a Silky saw over any axe, any day...talk about energy saving!
To me, you sounded rather invested. Needing to prove something.
Thing is, Wranglerstar is kind of a teacher more than anything, and one thing he does is testing out cheaper tools to test if they're useful. And most of us aren't preparing for any doomsday (and if I did that, I'd bring blades for a bow saw as they're ligtht and the saw itself is rather easy to make with a knife, some wood and preferably a bit of cordage).
You show some weaknesses with the Samurai and that's okay, but at half the price most of us recognize there are tradeoffs. And what many of us need is something light and quick to take out and use, while being relatively safe it can last us through the day. Or perhaps even a week.
And the most important question becomes "what is the most saw you can get for your money"?
Premiere saws like the Silky ones have their place, but so does the Samurai. And if you were doeing a balanced review, you would have done more to acknowledge that.
I have had the Ichiban saw for three years now and it's still sharp as hell and cuts better than my Silky. I like my Silky also but it is more expensive. I have never left my Ichiban or Silky soaking in water as I take care of my tools before and after use so if you don't take care of your saw or tools than you get what you get.
Thank you! I have to admit that I was a bit skeptical on the silky product line. Until now.
I have a Samurai and really like it. But I believe your work here The Silky is better all around. I think the full tang is the biggest selling point. So much stronger. The rust test is in my opinion bogus. I wipe down my saw after every use. I don't store it in brine. OK, the Silky is more rustproof, but I don't think its a factor if you take care of your saw. If my Samurai breaks, my next saw will be a Zabat for sure, but I am not going to lose a lot of sleep over it.
So I carry 2 saws when I'm camping, huntinf and practicing bush crafting and survival. A silky pull saw for cutting allot of fire wood fast for fires and cutting lots of logs fast for shelter building and a folding bow saw strapped to my pack for cutting notches and more fine detailed work. It comes in handy for notching logs for building structures and tools.
I used a small folding saw for a few years then i got the silky bigboy2000 after watching a video..
I have owned it for 6mo now, i love that it ajusts and cuts great The only thing i dont like is it can unfold easily and snag your hand!!..after my first mishap i use velcro to wrap it together to hold in place while walking through the woods.
This video seems extremely biased, I own both and always go for the samurai when I use one, just because silky does not know how to build an ergonomic grip, this is not 1800's, learn how to build an ergo grip!, and I wipe down the saw after using it with oil because its just a good practice, like cleaning your tools so the silly corrosion resistance test results would make no difference when used by an adult.
Dude, did I just watch the same vid as you? As someone evaluating a purchase do I benefit by knowing that one blade rusts way more than the other and is substantially weaker? Of course! And given that the superior steel and full tang only costs a little more, why go with the product that will fail far more quickly?
@Loco Raindrops This guy is completely safety stupid and biased. Prompting his business. Money, money !!!!!
@@vaughanstarr3725 people will always have something negative to say about everything
Agreed very biased.
I totally agree CP there is ABSOLUTELY no way im sending my son or myself into the wilderness with cheap crap! Especially when thats all you have to get you and your family through a long term or even a short term survival situation...no no no...buy the best that you can because these items are all that you will have to depend on make sure you can depend on them!!÷
Thanks for sharing. I don't have a Silky but love my Samurai.
I don't think Wranglerstar is going to store his saws in a brine solution.. I think bushcrafters are going to keep their tools clean and serviceable. Also WranglerStar wasn't comparing the Ichiban to that saw. His comparison was between Silky folding saws which do not have full tangs as well.
I have every silky saw except the katana, but the samurai inchiban Is honestly better. I would say 10-20% better cutting, im shocked you cant see the difference. Better cutting, better handle, and cleans better. I don't care if its full tang its a freak
ing saw, they break easily or bend. Ive destroyed multiple silkys so its not like it makes much of a difference. When you cut logs to big you risk destroying the blade whether its full tang or not.
I love my silky saws for 1 because they have a lot of models and 2 because its a great 2 hand saw which I use on large logs.
He's just a puppet trying to sell a product. No integrity or pride.
I have a samurai and 4 silky's and maintain a large property and i do use my samurai allot more. If i could only have one saw for the rest of my life it would be a silky but when I'm picking a saw to work hard in the wood lot or on the farm i pick my samurai every time. Maybe i don't know what I'm taking about but i could use any saw i want and have my pick of them and i just keep use the samurai over my sugoi or my big boy.
So you’re telling me my corona one sucks donkey balls? Now I gotta get a Silky.
Good comparison video,
for me, my dad taught me when i was a kid,(a few more decades ago than i care to admit), "Buy quality once, and have no regrets".
After SHTF money will loose all meaning anyway!
For me, as long as it can be sharpened it would be good, if not, not for me.
thank you for educating me with this, I'm definitely going silky
I have had my Silky BigBoy for several years and it kicks much ass. Goes with me every time.
Yay, so many internet warriors here, the silky didn't really win it wasn't a fight. Budget vs cheap, there is a huge difference between the 2, both are budget options and either is fine if MAINTAINED properly, oil your blades, dry and monitor them, replace the blades as needed. Tang comparison isn't exactly the same between a knife and a saw, very few saws that are pack friendly are used with the tang option due to the size constraints. Weight is a factor to some, a lighter item isn't a poor item it is just designed differently. The axe comment, a lighter axe can split better than a heavy axe, it's the shape more than the weight in all honesty for how an axe will perform, yes a heavier axe does more work but a saw isn't dependent on weight it is reliant on the way the tooth will cut and weight is just what you control if you want to snap a blade or not, I have snapped a silky blade a few times being to aggressive with my cuts. Finally, internet warriors, grow up, Canadian prepper even said not to bash wrangler star because you idiots don't even understand the first thing about doing something with your hands, go try and build a bridge and see if it works half as well as his did, I dare you.
I'm sorry to say that in reading some of your commenters, that I replied in kind (maybe a little unkind). But your video is the reason that I am a subscriber. You do tell it as you see it, and if you did not do as you do, then you would not stand out among the armchair survivor/prepper multitude. Good job, keep it up. We need a bit of truth the you tube universe.
Had a Zubat 13" for years. Cuts like a champ. Good demonstration. While im not worried about rust so much I think that shows the steel. Hopefully you can get the Zubat 330 back in stock
There are tools I would say it is alright to go cheap on... Saws and axes are not them. You can seriously hurt using them.
I love the silky bigboy 2000. It just shreds everything. I had to take down oak tree limb at my moms place that was getting dangerous. Around 8" thick. Before my brother could even pull out the chainsaw, I was already most of the way though with the silky. I laughed and him. "Phhhtt, chainsaws."
Thanks for the video. I am still considering a saw for my INCH bag but it is already very heavy, and I need to cut weight. I figure if I gave up the hatchet and got a saw instead I could lighten the load. My big problem is everytime I make changes, hoping to lighten the bag or make more room i end up adding more than i take away.
I hate to give up the hatchet because it has many uses but i do have an SCH 52 which is a pretty good chopper, and saws could come in handy for many applications too. Like i said, I am still considering getting one but i want good quality and preferably a good price.
For the record; I've had a Laplander for almost 10 years. It has been a wonderful tool and still works just fine to this day. I can concede that it isn't superior to a Silky F180 (closest comparison). I have both and the Silky has deeper teeth and cuts much faster. However, the Laplander is a well made tool; reliable, durable, and has replacement blades available. If the Silky would fit my custom kydex it would get more use on the trail.
I saw some reviews on amazon where they said silky saws were breaking, but based on everything else i'm seeing I think those people don't use them properly. going to get one after seeing this video, thanks!
Who saws wood braced against their leg? Ever heard of the femoral artery? :-)
Rhetorical Answer
Bwahahahahaha, if your in the medical field you know this to be true LOL
Agreed 500%. This guy is completely safety stupid and biased. Prompting his business. Money, money !!!!!
@@tonygosbee3390 1:34 listen to what he said
He was being pretty dumb but he lived
It depends on intended usage.
For light infrequent use like trimming a small green limb once in a while or filming a overnighter with a tiny fire go with the cheaper less dependable one.
If you need a saw for heavy duty everyday wood cutting, get the Silky!
I found one of those Corona razor saws out in the shed that was all rusted up and dull as butter knife and I put a good file and saw tooth set on it and man! does this this slice through dry hard wood.
I don't think I'll ever need any other saw now that I know how to file the angles on the saw teeth and how to set the teeth so they cut wider than the blade so it doesn't bind up.
I'm so glad I watched this video, I almost took the bait on the Samurai Ichiban. I had watched Wrangler Star and Gideon"s Tactical (the other guy) videos before I watched your video and I really appreciated your complete comparison. I'm going with the Silky Zubat 330mm.
10:44 "and that's basically all she wrote" looool! Good one CP
That was a great great review! Thanks for the heads up!!👍👍
I disagree , the Ichiban is an amazing saw, i cant tell any difference vs my big boy 2000
I have 2 silky gunfighters (270 and 330) for tree work in Arizona. I wouldn’t have it any other way. Super cool look/feel and the blade swap is the quickest and easiest
Prepper has a real eye for good product and he clearly does use the stuff he sells. He came up with a Bug Out Roll on his own. Give the guy some credit.
Completed AGREE! Buy one quality product that last !
Silky makes awesome non-fulltang saws also, eg. Silky Gomboy Curve Outback Edition 240
The Laplander is a practical rucking and camping saw. That's my recommendation if you don't need a full saw.
Dipping them in saline solution for WEEKS = fishing for a "problem" that doesn't exist in the real world unless you're a completely careless nincompoop! I've used my Ichiban for over two years now without an issue. I clean it with oven cleaner when pitch builds up on it and give it a light oiling of wd-40 and it's as good as the day I bought it.
Wow Québec merci ❤😅Canada
Long live the Bahco! Good video, keep up the good work!
Survival Theory I personally use a folding bowsaw. But if I were to use a hand saw in the woods. Bahco would be my choice. Shorter with less flex. Not the fastest cutter. But will out live any silky any day.
I've had my Bahco for years with no problems. Yes, it isn't the fastest cutter, but so small and lightweight. I'm not always building a log cabin in the woods, so it does fine. I have another off brand folding saw that is a bit larger, and it does the job also.
Corona...
Sounds like I need to fight the ice people in the north with my saw like you sound... xD
So, the other day I was cutting some wood by the ocean (kinda unlikely) and accidently left my saw in the wet salty sand for a day. Wow! I was so surprised when it rusted! Where I live we don't have salt rivers or lakes. So, to get a saw wet from salt you HAVE to be at the ocean. But then later I was sawing up a very rare SALT TREE. Sure enough my saw did rust! Who would have imagined! LOL!
I’ve used both. The Silky obliterates the Ichiban in every conceivable way. I can’t possibly imagine a scenario in which that’s not the case.
Thing is, the vast majority of people are not buying these saws to survive on, including homesteaders who would have many other saws to boot. Homesteaders take much better care of their tools anyway so wont run into most if not all of the problems relating to the ichiban saw.
If people choose to use this as the part of their toolbox to skimp on, and arent using it in a prepper/survival scenario, it wont affect them nearly as much as skimping in other areas.
I can totally see why people should choose the ichiban over the silky, even if I would choose the silky hands down.
TheStaniG, I agree...sometimes economics plays a role in our decision making. But we can all hope that someday we will be able to purchase that "dream car" or silky saw.
corona saws:
Small screen cell brother,like that silky,gotta get my 2 for my prepps
Thanks, another great video. I have two Silky saws and I love them.
I used to sell saws and also sawed with them but realized I was sawing more and more started using using the saws I was supposed be selling and the whole thing spiraled out of control and my bushcraft life crumbled around me. I started attending bushcraft anonymous groups and slowly rebuilt my outdoor life and am ready to go on a weekend camping trip next weekend.
So until Silky puts in Ventilation Holes in their Sheaths, why not just drill a few on each side of the Sheath? 3-5 holes 1/8 inch in diameter down the length should be enough. And one at the bottom for drainage if you have to cross a Stream. Thanks again for the Video.
Leslie Kovacs exactly
Send WS one to review along side his own saw, i think that would be good for both channels. Glad to see good arguments no channel bashing. Way to support eachother. Maybe a collab take ur own saw and battle it out together.
Great video 👍🏻
⚠️ Just forgot to mention that silky sheath has a drainage opening hole at the bottom tip ⚠️
Silky #1
I know people probably doubt your loyalty because of being a dealer but I remember before you ever sold them how highly your rates them but I’ve got 2 silly saws and it’s the best saw I’ve ever used hands down gonboi and katana I believe is the other model and I’ve been nothing but impressed you do need to learn a pull stroke so you’re less likely to snap it but I haven’t had any issues yet because of how flexible the blade is and the teeth and hardened just perfectly
Yup as soon as you took the handles off I knew the black silky is better. Because the metal is apart of the handle. Good saw.
I wish all reviews were just as thorough!! Thanks Much!
Full tang is safer, on any tool.
Yeah, the silky is better. But the samurai is good enough and I can get four of them for the price of a single silky. I will continue to buy samurai and just replace it every couple years.
wild animals have a saying: a man with an axe is dangerous. a man with a saw is dinner.
The Japanese have been doing incredible wood work and joinery for millennium without the use of metal joining devices. I liken these tests to doing an oil quality test. For example, compare a quart of Mobil 1 motor oil to any other oils you can buy over the counter. Take those oils and put them in a deep freezer for 24 hours. Remove them at the same time and do a pour test and see which one flows more easily out of the bottle first. Silky saws have my vote of confidence for what they are purposed for.
Damn, I wish I had watched this video before I ordered a samurai saw on Amazon - I also saw your review where they kept on pushing back the delivery date.
just watched the vid and bought a samurai thanks for the info
LOL have fun with that
Great video! I was on the fence about these two brands. I’m going with a Silky!
Only the rich man buys cheep tools.
I also own both and I prefer my Samurai GC-300-LH 12" it’s a smoother cutting saw yeah it’s not full tang but i’ve beat the hell out of it and it still going strong.
I wish you had the 13" Corona too. Go buy it and let us know. Haha.
@@funkingitup1805 wishing someone had the Corona?! 😳
Covid jokes aside, I've got the Corona saw because that was what I grabbed from my local Ace to clean up my yard. I'm curious to compare to a Silky.