Boss / Fender Legend Pedals - Can They Fit That Into a Pedal?
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2024
- This one's a Three-fer! The Boss Legend series of pedals is an officially Fender-licensed version of some of their most classic pieces of gear in pedal form. Sounds like a dream come true, but how do they actually sound? Let's get down to it.
All music by me.
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:29 - Demo #1 - "Bust Your Balloon"
1:34 - All About The Legend Series
4:29 - FBM-1 '59 Fender Bassman
6:30 - FDR-1 '65 Deluxe Reverb
10:05 - FRV-1 '63 Fender Reverb
11:38 - Demo #2 - "Live To Fight Another Day"
13:19 - What's The Deal?
I had all of them. I kept the Bassman. I use it with a high gain pedal and it turns my open back 2 12 into a closed back half stack cab’s tone. Amazing!
How does it sound by itself? Without stacking?
I still have all of them, awesome pedals, well done to BOSS
These sound great and your playing on the first tune!! I had to listen to it a few times it was soo good!
I play a 59' Bassman reissue and it's my favorite amp I've ever played and I've played alot. Cool video.
I have the Bassman pedal, my most used effect pedal by far! Have actually been using it on bass to get that extra growl when i need it. Plugged into a Ampeg of any sort gives it a amazing feel. Also know someone who have used the Deluxe Reverb straight into a audio interface for recording, and not used any other ampsim plugins. Sounded great! Really want the two others, but the price are usually insane tho. Loved the video man!!
I love it that you use chords in your reviews instead of solos. Subscribed!
Interesting, I never thought about doing it any other way, but now that I think about it, that is a thing I see in a lot of other places. Just trying to show pedals the way I can easily see myself using them in real life. Thanks for watching, and for the subscription!
Finally ordered the FBM-1 yesterday, I've had the other two Fender/Boss pedals for many years, had to finally get the last one. These things sound great, and they look killer, too (even little details like the brown rubber pad on top to match the color of the original).
I'm an amp and rack gear user but I find your videos about things I don't care about to be so interesting. Kudos to you
Thank you! I love rack gear, always wanted one of those ADA preamps. Maybe one day I’ll do a video of my ART SGX2000
Really enjoyed this video, especially the deeper dives into what the pedal is doing/how it is doing it and the experience of living with it (like the "make the vibrato easier to adjust" comments.
Subscribed. Looking forward to more!
Awesome. Welcome, Simon
Oh! Nice to find a new interesting channel!
Bless you from the UK 🍀
Love this little series of pedals. I always rated them.
Thank you so much!!
Who dusts the pedals on the shelves behind you?
I love my FRV-1 been using it for years. I appreciate how much range it has, it can get really intense and surfy, or you can hone it in and keep it controlled.
Nice review! You’ve got a very cool Carlos Santana vibe going on with your playing. I’ve wanted these pedals for years. More as a collector’s piece than anything else. But they are great pedals for sure. I like that Boss has collaborations with other companies. Keeps things interesting.
No doubt. Thanks for watching!
Very cool video man!! I really enjoyed it!
Oh thank you!!
I use my Bassman pedal in conjunction with my modeling amp. It’s a great way to layer up the effects kind of similar to using a line out box with multiple amps.
I love to put my FDR-1 in front of a Digitec Trio+ Band Creator together with various modulation pedals, overdrive and a delay. This gear is then connected to a super clean solid state Fender amp. With this I can get very cool and authentic sounds.
Would’ve been interesting to hear them going into the fx loop of an amp
Lolol
I have the Bassman pedal, tried it on the effects loop. it really is meant for the front end, not the loop. massive volume drop and sounds quite muffled. It's more like an overdrive instead of a preamp pedal.
@@gunkanjima3408 I don't understand what's so funny. 🤔
I run the FBM-1 and FDR-1 (as well as a PW-2 or a DS-1) in front of my Egnater Tweaker 15, they push the amp nicely, and the FRV-1 in the effects loop along with modulation and delay (and an MT-2 Metal Zone sounds good to me in the effects loop, for some reason or another 🤔).
@@scramblesthedeathdealer Some kids lol everything.. They dont know how to respond to actual real information or statements.
Really well done. Kudos.
Just came down here to comment and tell you to keep it going! Good content here
Thank you!
I have all 3. Glad to own them. I use the amp named pedals for OD sounds, and reverb pedal for killer spring reverb sounds.
Demo #2 is really good! Great playing and you have inspired me to try something similar.
Awesome! I was trying for a Dire Straits type of thing. Would love to hear what you cook up
Love that jam you played!
Thank you so much!
Great vid! I have to respectfully disagree on just getting a modeling amp over one of these pedals tho. Ive got a few different modeling amps and none of them have a reverb that sounds as natural as these. Especially the Frv 1.
The Frv1 has a really good spring reverb sound and it’s so much better sounding than any modeling amp that I personally have heard.
Back then when those pedals came out I was starting to play guitar and wanted so much one of those
Love this show. I subscribed because of your Dylan Doyle interview.
I have the FRV-1 and it really is a nice sounding pedal. It does the "drippy" Surf Guitar reverb without having to deal with the problems that the Reverb Tanks possess. The Catalinbread Topanga is an excellent alternative if the FRV-1s become too expensive or too hard to find.
I'm not familiar with James Burton, but I love using my FRV-1 for some Johnny Cash.
Great video!
Cool re-shoot. 🤘🏻
Thanks
The FMB-1 has been on my pedalboards for the last 11/12 years. So much so that i had one break the input and i got second one. But i don’t use it as a Amp-type thing, but as a meaty roaring OD into a vox ac30. Just before a TS9 and a ODC. Man … the way it roars is unparalleled.
Nice sounds!
I'm actually kinda impressed with the FMB-1 and FRV-1.
Now run all three at the same time into a Blues Junior.
All The Chime, all the time.
@@StompboxBreakdown please put that on a shirt.
@@EricTheCleric93 I would buy that shirt😂
I had the bass man pedal since it came out but let it go just this year. It was a good overdrive but since I bought a real super reverb I figured why am I running a BM pedal through a super lol. Plus I prefer the clarity of fender black amps.
The reverb pedal stands out for its sound, the Bassman is perfect for that raw 60s dirty blues, and the Deluxe Reverb is also inspiring having the integtated tremolo. All of then keepers, I have the three in excellent condition with boxes, they are must have for collecting.
Thanks for the review! I like an ending song too ))
Thanks! That was a fun one
My buddy dad had a 65 reverb that we would try to make sound like a dual rectifier with the Digitech distortion and a DOD EQ pedal scooped out. For the clean we would turn all of it off , the clean channel was so good. The pedal does some justice especially a digital reverb.
Hahaha that sounds about right. That brings back memories. Thanks, buddy!!
I remember this generation of amp sim , type pedals. .
Never owned one but seen countless ads in guitar magazines.
I guess they were the first venture into what would become amp modeling later
i think the appeal is sometimes you want the fender spring reverb but in a marshall plexi, or you can't afford a fender bassman and so set this up as a clean boost and you got that, or set it as an overdrive of course
so basically i want them
A friend has the reverb and bassman. They sound amazing but are hard to find/expensive.
Boss should produce some new.
Your playing with the Pedals were excellent : saying that these Boss Fender Legend Series truly are Great “ You just Proved , I thank you Sir “ !!!
We need a part 3 !!!
“Remember Alf? He’s back! In POG form”😉
I’ve got a set of Simpsons pogs in my office somewhere
Nice playing brother
Thanks!
I have both the 65 Deluxe and the Bassman. I love the Bassman and play with it a lot at home / recording. It sounds great at low volume and does what I want it to in that setting. That being said, I couldn't imagine gigging with one of these as you could with a lot of the new AIAB pedals. As an aside, the Deluxe's reverb is extremely bizarre when dimed out; haven't heard anything quite like it IRL. Nice psychedelic/noise effect.
I'm interessed in the bassman, fbm-1, but i play on a relatively small church and got a little bit worried about some coments saying that these pedals dont't sound good live, only at home. Can you, please, explain me why? I was thinking about to buy a fbm-1, use as a preamp, with some impulse response loader, and maybe to buy the fdr-1 and use them in stereo, but after some coments about the usability of them live, i'm not so sure.
@@gregmarvin22 At louder settings, what sounds good in a small room starts to sound muddy and just not great. If you're wanting a Bassman style pedal that can handle that situation, I'd recommend the 5F6 from CATALINBREAD. Check out some videos! Good luck
@@MarsHottentot I think that depends on the character of the amplifier as well. I had better results at louder volumes compared to bedroom volumes for the Bassman Pedal. That being said, I would keep the signal going into the bassman pedal fairly low because it gets quite fizzy when the signal is boosted. But with the new AIAB pedals, I would happily boost it and there's almost no bad sound.
@@reezalguy Makes sense!
i use the deluxe pedal with 2x 65 watt fender frontman amps with emminence 150 watt speakers for a portable good sounding loud rig.
I got the FRV-1 when it came out, an amazing pedal. Should have gotten all three 😠
I been on a1990's fender solid state combo kick for a while now. Particularly the deluxe 90 DSP and princeton 65 DSP. Classic look, incredibly authentic fender clean tones, very 70's silverface to my ear, and with the onboard dsp effects, real versatile little amps. Around 2 bills like new, used market. My tube combos mostly just sit. Tweed blues junior is back in the box.
That Princeton 65 was my first not crappy 8” cardboard amp
It’s good stuff
Great fender cleans.
@@therewasascene It surprised me. I honestly like it better than some pretty revered fender tube combos I've had.
FRV-1 is my "go to" spring reverb pedal since years ;)
I can see why
I like it when you wear the bass playing hat!
You just gotta!
Great video. Just one thing for the comment section that might be confusing. These pedals, other than the reverb which I believe is digital, are not necessarily “modeling” pedals in the way we think of modeling amps today. (Though looking back, were definitely a hint at modeling concepts that would follow.)
Modeling amps are digital and have computer chips which recreate the sounds and textures of the amps they are modeling. The two “amp pedals” here are solid state, preamp tone stack circuits which are similar to the preamp circuits of the amps they are imitating. The biggest difference being that the pedal is powered by 9volts and transistors, rather than wall voltages and tubes, though there are transistors that can get pretty close to tube-like saturation.
80-90% of an amps “signature tone” comes from the preamp tone stack so if you run a pedal like these (or something like the JHS Supro or hundreds of other preamp circuit pedals) you get something very close to the amp they are imitating. These work best as the creator says, while having the amp’s preamp flat, or by using them as a dirty channel for a more “natural -sounding” overdrive. Some of these pedals can also be run through the return of the FX loop so that it is purely the preamp from the pedal that is being used.
Best wishes!
All three of them are digital modelling pedals. It is written literally on the pedal: COSM. And I don't want to address some of the the "ideas" you written in this long post because it's all based on the wrong assumptions.
@@Tomislav_B. Fair enough. I must have looked at the wrong schematic.
actually, sounds great and quite easy to tweak before the amp's preamp section. but the volume drops and sound is a bit muffled when used in the effects loop. it would take some quite extreme settings to make it sound usable.
Although unrelated another great rig in a box is Catalinbread's Sabbra Cadabra.
Used into a DAW it's fantastic...but ultimately traded it for a Black Country Customs Laney Iommi Treble Boost as I already have Tony's first run of Laney GH100TI sig amp.
So I didn't need Sabbath in a box but would recommend for anyone else.
Sounds phenomenal into a super clean amp or DAW.
I own a Fender 57 Champ Reissue Amplifier that only has Volume ! I could not ask for anything better ,it goes hand too hand : The reason I choose Boss Fender Pedals for there setting for my application are Legendary and Historic in music .My Biggest Reason is my Amp is Limited just a volume setting !!!
Three famous amps from the over 60 years of Music that have very important settings : " Mixer , Dwell ,Tone , Presence ,Bass , Treble, Gain , Bright , Reverb , Vibrato, !!!
Fabulous.
A neat new trick I am seeing lately is running an overdrive/distortion straight into an IR loader - sort of turns them into an instant "amp in a box." I'm considering the "SONICAKE IR Pedal Speaker Cabinet Simulator Impulse Response Loader" Cheers~
That's how I've been using it, into a Strymon Iridium. I guess the next generation of these pedals (at least the FDR and FBM) are the IR-200 pedal. They've got the amp sim and IR cabinet all in one. Thinking about picking one up for recordings.
I have the 65 and think it's a cool petal.
Bust your balloon was great dude!
Thank you so much!! That was a real fun one, I kinda based it on a couple of different songs by Sloan. I hope to revisit it some time.
Great work man! I watch every video and if I could I would buy every pedal you review!
I had the chance to get all 3 but didn't know enough then so only got 65 FDR1 about 10-12 yaers ago! Love it great pedal. Someone made a comment they ordered a bassman??? Are they still being made? Or are we going hunting in the vintage world? Can anyone let me know? Thx
STOMPBOX, try to make a video about using the boss 65 deluxe pedal to get that tube amplifiers SAG tone because when you crank up the pedal max out the pedal is suppose to get that SAG tone just like an amplifier.
Nice ones
I'd Be interested to try the Deluxe with a Blues Harp
I've been playing for 40 years and I've never heard or seen these pedals before.
Early "Amp in a box". digital, unlike Catalinbread's. Cool stuff!
First time seeing a video from your channel, the intro reminded me of JHS 😂
Thanks! I’m definitely a huge fan of Josh at JHS, though I hope I’m not coming across as too much of a copycat.
I got a Fender Superchamp x2 (blonde, Ragin Cajun), all those goodies and a ton more in a tube amp. Under £300.
Hello. Does this pedals sound better than the American Sound from Joyo?
Can we use the bass man instead of Amp sim pedal. ?
I wonder if these amp pedals were meant to be last in your chain or 1st? Like if you had fuzz and boost and modulation and delay effects, where was this supposed to go? In front, like an overdrive? or at the end like an amp stage?
the Bassman pedal is just like an overdrive pedal. you can use it as a boost with EQ, or as an overdrive. as for the spring reverb pedal and the deluxe reverb pedal, it would most conventionally be placed at the end of the chain since they have reverbs. I would avoid putting it in the effects loop due to the volume drop and muffled sound.
Had a 59 chassis and traded for a guitar. Still kicking myself.
Had the diode mod where the power tube went.
These are only preamp or its simulates the cab?
Waza of these would be sick
I've always wanted a deluxe reverb but the cost.... 😭😭
I know that IR amp/cab sims have come a million miles since these came out, but I am debating on picking up the Deluxe to use as a DI in tandem with my live amp (a '63 Vibroverb RI at lower volume mostly for my ears, DI line to PA. This way if I ever have to turn my amp up or down for my own sake, it does not affect the FOH sound, as I am mixing from stage and would rather leave that signal untouched).
My question is whether these pedals have any input headroom. The cheaper IR cab simulator that I have been using breaks up in that awful digital clipping way if I put my lead boost pedal on for a solo. Of course my amp would just break up a little more if I did that, but the cab sim gives up the ghost. If the Boss Deluxe pedal can take a bit of hot input signal and not digitally clip (I realize this is a digital pedal as well), this might be a nice solution.
Thoughts?
PS. Love your videos!
Thanks!! Unfortunately these do have that awful digital clipping with a hot signal. Lots of knob twiddling when your input comes in at a wide dynamic range. I’ve been meaning to check out the new Boss IR pedal, that looks promising. The Strymon Iridium I’ve been using has a few nice modes, but still feels limited. It’s a good though, I haven’t found anything that’s a magic bullet yet, though.
I own the Boss FRV-1 '63 Reverb pedal. It sounds true-to-form like the original brown tolex tube unit without the "pay the national debt" vintage price. It also solved the "no built-in reverb problem" of my all original 1964 Magnatone-Estey M9 Amp with TRUE pitch-shifting vibrato.🤗
Everything in there sounds amazing
@@StompboxBreakdown In addition to the '63 Reverb pedal, I also use a second generation Ibanez TS-9 Tube Screamer for some SRV-sounding grit on that Magnatone-Estey. Paired with my mint 1994 Gibson "Lonnie Mack Signature Flying V," it is a great super old school sound right out of the 1963 era. This in stark contrast to when I play full-bore metal on my mint 2008 Fernandez "Vortex Elite Sustainer V" black axe (photo documented & autographed by Jim Gillette lead vocalist of the late '80s speed-shred-glam band "Nitro") through my mint condition 1997 Peavey "Eddie Van Halen Signature 5150 212 Combo" amp, LOL!🤣
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marshall also had some i had them at one time they r also preety good
The FRV-1 had its heyday and lots of surf guitarists used to use in front of their amps it but they complained about a certain harshness in the tone that didn’t capture the feel of the original tube-driven Fender spring reverb units. Surf guitar makes use of spring reverb in a heavy way to transmogrify the guitar signal, not just to add ambience. The true test of surf spring reverb is how it ‘drips’, producing artifacts of the spring being twanged by palm-muted staccato notes, especially on the bottom string in a rapidly picked muted glissando, a surf cliche par excellence. Strymon and Catalinbread came out with better emulations but real spring reverb reached its postmodern apotheosis with Surfy Bear FET spring reverb units which exactly mimic the sound of vintage Fender tube units at a much lower price. Also, kicking the reverb unit for an explosive splash as the springs get jostled is an important sonic schtick you can’t do without physical springs.
I had / have one of these. It sounded nice in the living room. On stage not so much...
I could definitely see that being the case
I'm interessed in the bassman, fbm-1, but i play on a relatively small church and got a little bit worried about some coments saying that these pedals dont't sound good live, only at home. Can you, please, explain me why? I was thinking about to buy a fbm-1, use as a preamp, with some impulse response loader, and maybe to buy the fdr-1 and use them in stereo, but after some coments about the usability of them live, i'm not so sure.
@@gregmarvin22 I played mine thru a music man 50 watt next to my chair. Walk away and funk 49 were fun to play with a little old fashioned dirt.
When I tried the pedal live the sound sort of fell apart or sounded grainy or harsh. Not sure how to explain.
Did you run these into the front of the amp or into the return of the effects loop?
Out in front, like the instructions say to
Why did fender/boss stop making these?
Great vid! How does the bassman sound with bass?
Good question, I tried it out and thought it sounded like a bass going through a guitar amp. Lots of sweet high end stuff, but no low end.
Where would the bass man go in a board in the beginning after a tuner or at the end before my looper
I'm typically a "tuner up front" kind of guy, so after the tuner. I'd put it close to the front, like a typical overdrive/dirt pedal.
سلام كيف الحال هل يمكنني إقتناء دواسة fdr_1
I have the two amp pedals, but not the reverb. Don't care for spring reverb. I probably should get it to complete the set, though.
Ahead of their time, they should Waza these with Cab Sim as the Custom setting or something.
Do you take video requests? I've got a pedal combination I'd desperately like to hear without spending a ton on the pedals to try it. I'm looking for that Buddy Guy tone, without the bankruptcy and broken back that come along with buying bassmans (as well as something I can keep relatively quiet).
I know the '59 Bassman pedal alone can get pretty close. I was wondering if you'd pair a cranked 59 Bassman pedal with a tube screamer to see if you can achieve that melt your face off Buddy Guy tone?
Any tips or tricks you'd recommend would also be appreciated! I really hope you'll consider making that video for me!
I'll have to think about it. I'm sure I could cook up something, but so much of tone comes down to playing style, the amp, how it's all mic'd and recorded. May be a fun challenge, though.
Speaking of the Cyber-Twin, I think Buddy Guy was an early endorser.
Cool video. Those pedals are getting hard to get. I'm a metal player but I love surf guitar & always wanted the '63 pedal but I've now seen better sounding replications out there so not so much now, still cool though.
Hi, like what? Thanks
@@guitarstring5981 the EH Oceans 11 is pretty convincing. There is a video on RUclips where a guy puts a lot of different ones against a proper Fender unit.
@@zombiemosher1139 thanks
Which one of these pedals' reverb would sound closer to an original Fender '65 Twin Reverb?
I think the it’s a version of the ‘63 that went into the Deluxe Reverb, so if its just the reverb you’re after, I’d recommend the FRV-1. I can’t really speak for its authenticity, but you get more control with that pedal anyway
@@StompboxBreakdown thanks :)
OP handled negative public feedback on tuning well.
Thanks! Yeah, I see a lot of crap comments, but a number of the replies in there were constructive criticism, which I take just as seriously as compliments (usually), so I didn't take them as being jerks or trolls or anything.
The funny thing is, I'm known as an obsessive tuner with the people I play with. Sometimes I think it's just the stress of trying to get a take perfect after the 25th take that makes my left hand tense up and drive some of the notes sharp. This channel has been a big help for me in noticing my bad habits so I can get started on fixing them.
do yhey work into a poweramp and a guitar speaker ?
They work, and people have said they sound fine that way. I thought they were missing a little something, but it could be my amp or my settings. For this video, I just did as the instructions said.
Lmaoooo @ the milhouse reference
I dont know what or who you jam with, but I see more and more guitarists getting vintage gear, classic Fender and Marshall amps, playing the same classic guitars like always. They use some new pedals but play with classic old guitars and amps, or newer Stratocasters and other new built classic style guitars, I have not jammed with anyone that uses modeler amps, and all that computer plugin stuff like that.
Not everyone is a troll.. Some guys do know some, and maybe they are giving you some good info on how to change some things. That is the trouble with some younger folks and older ones too. They think they are always right, or cant take anyone telling them information. Just admit when you are wrong, that way it makes it faster and easier to learn more.
The 59 bassman takes away the boxy sound of the fender jr amp
Craig Feldspar?
Wait, Boss made Fender branded pedals?! 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
Sure did. And they went HARD with it!
what about the ST 2 ?
ST-2 and the Combo Driver are good fun. I should do a video on them at some time
What amp did you use for the demo??
I’m actually using a Strymon Iridium. I had it set to a Fender style for these recordings, though I usually use the Vox setting.
That's not an amp. Why not go straight into your DAW with it or indeed a house PA (battery in the pedal to avoid hum). Would these work? I use my FBM with my Blues Jr - lots of Neil Young tones. Also plugged into the 'return' of my Blackstar as a pre amp before its Kt88 power amp. I love it.
@@nicholasg923 Nothing stopping someone from plugging their pedal into whatever they feel like, and it sounds like you found a winning combination. The instructions say to plug it into the front of a guitar amp, so that's what I did in this video, though I did experiment with a few other options (keyboard amp, bass amp, PA, direct, etc) I use the Iridium instead of an amp sim because I like the way it sounds, and I like having a hardware option I can practice/write with independent of my DAW. The first few videos I uploaded, I mic'd my amp, and I lost a lot of time and gained a lot of frustration trying to get the sound and levels just right, made further difficult by the changing levels when using drive pedals. So far, the Iridium has solved those problems.
@@StompboxBreakdown Good demo of these overlooked gems.
Is this a repost? I could have sworn I've already seen this video, but it says only posted 2 days ago.
I redid the video because there was some stuff in there I wasn't happy with. ruclips.net/video/QXPh0s4T_bc/видео.html
I wrote new songs and give some new insight this time. It's just a better video all around.
@fastguitar kinda late pal, and the creator replied and answered so you've added nothing. gfy
@@robertcaple5165 Question you're asking is already answered and explained in video. If you haven't be sitting on your ears you could have catch that while watching the video.
I was shocked to find out how good the FBM-1 is on bass... who'da thunk Something with "Bass" in the name would sound good on a bass? 🤔
2nd one reminds me of lenny cravitts ir how ever you spell his last name
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Fender did the Cyber-Twin before the Mustang amps. I think they flopped hard, because they were expensive and I seem to remember one standing in the amp-section of my music-shop years after they were discontinued.
Oh wow, I just remembered the Cyber Twin, lol. I forgot they tried that.