When you have Pigments 3 and Phase Plant going on sale for $100 regularly, it's puzzling how a very similar (and arguably less feature complete) competing product would expect to succeed on a subscription model that's much more expensive. Arturia and Kilohearts add value by providing massive free updates to their products as well, so you pay once and get continued support over time. Even on the wavetable front, Vital is free and incredibly powerful. This is a headscratcher for sure. It's an ok UI that doesn't do anything new, and only 3 separate synth engines compared to Pigments and Phase Plant's many more puts this further behind. The move here should have been to provide a competitively priced alternative to these big hitters, for a less expensive sticker price. The subscription model and ridiculous pricing, combined with the fact that this is just a worse clone of better and more established offerings, will ensure this synth is DOA.
Agreed, the synth needs to be competitively priced. But when you compare this to Vital there is a clear issue. With more updates Vital is going to become more powerful and more capable. Plus Vital offers pricing tiers which are totally optional but most importantly is the choice of the customer not the company.
@@demishellen Right, I think Vital has a great model. It's a little bit of comparing apples and oranges when you we're talking feature set of course, but selling extra presets and wavetables in tiers is a smart approach. When your users can see what the synth has to offer, learn how to use it, and then make the decision on whether they want more out of it, you add the value of choice as you said. I don't dislike Minimal Audio or have anything against them, but I hope this subscription model fails for them and other companies, causing them to revert to a more traditional price, we can stop this predatory business model. There's some places where SAAS offerings work but I really think it's poisonous to creative software communities (looking at you, Reason+).
Don’t get me wrong I don’t dislike minimal audio. They have clearly worked hard on the synth. It’s purely the subscription which does not make it available to more. Plus I like to own my synths 🙂
Pigments doesnt have many more synth engines though. Drift have all the same type, but can have all five OSC as voices at the same time to my understanding and all available for FM/AM, In Pigments you have 2 OSC. Luckily they backpedaled from they subscription only model, if not than I agree not exciting at all. I think this will be better than Pigments though at least for me, the effects themself are very high quality. PhasePlant is different beast alltogether, but I think they will sound different.
Well, it certainly wasn't 'synplant' they were smoking, that's for sure. But, I do like the analogy. Since, a "dealer" effectively puts their customers on a 'subscription' plan also. Minimal Audio? ... Minimal Sense for this one.
Many thanks for reviewing Demis. It would have to be a game changer for the price point. I can think of an anagram of “current” for what they are asking, use your imagination
Hello Demis, thanks for the presentation of Current. very clear and well summarized. I have a question and I would like to know if you can help me. I would be interested to know if Current has master pitch or master tune. The possibility of changing tuning in a menu or somewhere. Being able to go from 440hz to 430hz for example. I thank you in advance, thank you for sharing! great job!
Minimal Audio have lost their mind releasing a 'subscription only' synth in today's climate. With so much great competition around and new synths dropping lately, interest in a 'subscription synth' are likely to be negligible at best.
its not now! adding this incase others see this & think its still like that.. the listened & changed! & after the 1 year sub.. you get $180 in store credit! making it a $20 a year...
I got this the other day as everything I’ve seen so far definitely gives its contenders a good go! But…loading between each preset is a headache as it takes around 5seconds to load! That’s a big problem for me, or anyone who is looking to produce a track without any time consuming distractions. This is my personal opinion, though based on what I have experienced.
i think this is good but with things like pigments being so cheap, vital being free and the free / one time payment plugins becoming more and more popular this doesn't stand out much.
They forgot to tell the content creators it is subscription only, they forgot... yeah. Love your videos by the way but I wont be supporting corporate greed and it is great to see some content creators making videos of their disappointment of not being told before they put out their videos on this product, full respect goes to Dash Glitch and other content creators for that...
Hey I agree with you, I wish I knew this before recording this video. Subscriptions have their place but not in the music world. Subbing to own the plugin is fair game but I think this is a wrong move for Minimal Audio.
@@demishellen they did you and at least two other content creators, Databroth and Dash Glitch a real dirty by pulling a stunt like this on you all. How do they expect to foster good relations with their marketing partners if they throw them under the bus like this?
@@demishellen Thank you for your honest words. I didn't mean to be mean, it's only a matter of time before the next manufacturers also offer subscriptions. I don't want this to take on proportions like Ipad Aps, etc. 😏
When you have Pigments 3 and Phase Plant going on sale for $100 regularly, it's puzzling how a very similar (and arguably less feature complete) competing product would expect to succeed on a subscription model that's much more expensive. Arturia and Kilohearts add value by providing massive free updates to their products as well, so you pay once and get continued support over time.
Even on the wavetable front, Vital is free and incredibly powerful. This is a headscratcher for sure. It's an ok UI that doesn't do anything new, and only 3 separate synth engines compared to Pigments and Phase Plant's many more puts this further behind. The move here should have been to provide a competitively priced alternative to these big hitters, for a less expensive sticker price. The subscription model and ridiculous pricing, combined with the fact that this is just a worse clone of better and more established offerings, will ensure this synth is DOA.
Agreed, the synth needs to be competitively priced. But when you compare this to Vital there is a clear issue. With more updates Vital is going to become more powerful and more capable.
Plus Vital offers pricing tiers which are totally optional but most importantly is the choice of the customer not the company.
@@demishellen Right, I think Vital has a great model. It's a little bit of comparing apples and oranges when you we're talking feature set of course, but selling extra presets and wavetables in tiers is a smart approach. When your users can see what the synth has to offer, learn how to use it, and then make the decision on whether they want more out of it, you add the value of choice as you said.
I don't dislike Minimal Audio or have anything against them, but I hope this subscription model fails for them and other companies, causing them to revert to a more traditional price, we can stop this predatory business model. There's some places where SAAS offerings work but I really think it's poisonous to creative software communities (looking at you, Reason+).
Also yes I am aware of Vital's subscription tier and I disagree with that as well. At least they offer reasonable alternatives.
Don’t get me wrong I don’t dislike minimal audio. They have clearly worked hard on the synth. It’s purely the subscription which does not make it available to more. Plus I like to own my synths 🙂
Pigments doesnt have many more synth engines though. Drift have all the same type, but can have all five OSC as voices at the same time to my understanding and all available for FM/AM, In Pigments you have 2 OSC. Luckily they backpedaled from they subscription only model, if not than I agree not exciting at all. I think this will be better than Pigments though at least for me, the effects themself are very high quality. PhasePlant is different beast alltogether, but I think they will sound different.
$120 a year.. wonder what they're smoking over at Minimal Audio.
Something expensive i imagine.
Not sure but subscriptions have a place such as renting to own. They need a re think on this one.
Well, it certainly wasn't 'synplant' they were smoking, that's for sure. But, I do like the analogy. Since, a "dealer" effectively puts their customers on a 'subscription' plan also. Minimal Audio? ... Minimal Sense for this one.
Many thanks for reviewing Demis. It would have to be a game changer for the price point. I can think of an anagram of “current” for what they are asking, use your imagination
@@isotopia7681 I have heard they are updating so you can buy it outright for $200
🤣🤣🤣🤣 uhhh subscription? nope see what happned to WAVES
exactly, waves took a big hit with their announcement.
but lets be real.. waves has been the most cracked plugin bundle for well over 20 years.. I remember back in 2001 having a wave crack xD
Hello Demis, thanks for the presentation of Current. very clear and well summarized. I have a question and I would like to know if you can help me. I would be interested to know if Current has master pitch or master tune. The possibility of changing tuning in a menu or somewhere. Being able to go from 440hz to 430hz for example.
I thank you in advance, thank you for sharing! great job!
not that I can see.
Minimal Audio have lost their mind releasing a 'subscription only' synth in today's climate. With so much great competition around and new synths dropping lately, interest in a 'subscription synth' are likely to be negligible at best.
its not now! adding this incase others see this & think its still like that.. the listened & changed!
& after the 1 year sub.. you get $180 in store credit! making it a $20 a year...
Subscription never but i would put down a lot of money for this
Hopefully they hear the feedback and make some changes that reflect what the customer wants.
@@demishellen they aren't backing down...
@@BappinProductions they did.. they have a buy out option
I got this the other day as everything I’ve seen so far definitely gives its contenders a good go! But…loading between each preset is a headache as it takes around 5seconds to load! That’s a big problem for me, or anyone who is looking to produce a track without any time consuming distractions. This is my personal opinion, though based on what I have experienced.
Thanks for the review but i won't even look at it: as i read "subscription" i just skip.
i think this is good but with things like pigments being so cheap, vital being free and the free / one time payment plugins becoming more and more popular this doesn't stand out much.
Whats the Galaxy thing? Another VST?
A copy of wich synth? I don't need it.
15$ a month for JUST ANOTHER synth? What reality are these people living in?
Subscription? 😂
Subscription only…no thanks.
Let’s hope they reconsider. The synth is great we just need that buy option. 👍🏻
They forgot to tell the content creators it is subscription only, they forgot... yeah. Love your videos by the way but I wont be supporting corporate greed and it is great to see some content creators making videos of their disappointment of not being told before they put out their videos on this product, full respect goes to Dash Glitch and other content creators for that...
Subscription...i`m out🤡
Hey I agree with you, I wish I knew this before recording this video. Subscriptions have their place but not in the music world. Subbing to own the plugin is fair game but I think this is a wrong move for Minimal Audio.
@@demishellen they did you and at least two other content creators, Databroth and Dash Glitch a real dirty by pulling a stunt like this on you all. How do they expect to foster good relations with their marketing partners if they throw them under the bus like this?
@@demishellen Thank you for your honest words. I didn't mean to be mean, it's only a matter of time before the next manufacturers also offer subscriptions. I don't want this to take on proportions like Ipad Aps, etc. 😏
A paid version of Vital? No thanks.
This should be $140 to buy out right. The subscription model for this doesn’t make sense.