I just sarted with Six of Crows and didn't realise it was part of a universe. I kinda felt like someone thrw me into cold water because I missed the explanation or something. It hella confused me but I also liked it. And tbh if I had started with Grisha I think I would't have read through the end.
I truly don't understand people comparing Sanderson and Martin (or the weird theory that if Martin dies before finishing the series, Sanderson will complete it.) The ONLY similarity between their books is that they both write fantasy, but even then, their style of fantasy are........ Not the same. At all. Their writing styles couldn't be more different, and the actual content is incomparable. Such a weird comparison to make, imo
Completly agree. I find Sanderson books very interesting but I can't connect with his writing, with GRRM is kinda the opposit for me. They write very differently, don't aproach similar topics or characterisation... Yeah, they both just write fantasy and that's where similarities end. Both talented and with a huge fanbese! Good for them
@@VeyroneR Lol. That's just your opinion. And your opinion is in a very slim minority. He loves writing books and he is awesome at what he does. And he consistently keeps producing high-quality stuff.
I love Name of the Wind. But I would never sit there and say "this book is for everyone!" It is clearly not and because of that aspect I can understand why people would say its overhyped.
@@giginoelani5880 if you like very character driven stories I think you would really enjoy this. There are a lot of very interesting characters. The world is very interesting as well and has a TON of lore to explore if you are into that kind of stuff. I will caution, this book is relatively slow paced. I typically prefer faster paced books, but for this one the slower pace didnt bother me because the characters, plot, world, and lore were so interesting. But I know that did make it not for some people. As I'm sure you have heard the writing style is beautiful. Patrick Rothfuss has a great way of putting emotions into words that I've never seen in a fantasy author before. Hope that helps!
I didn't have trouble understanding the magic system either but I still recommend people read the grisha trilogy before six of crows if they're going to read both. I also prefer six of crows over the grisha trilogy and feel like you understand more. We don't know much about Nina or Ravka and the whole army thing going on. We also meet a few central characters from the grisha trilogy in six of crows at some point and it's way more meaningful after getting to know them in the grisha trilogy
I just read SoC and am in the middle of CK, without having read the hrosha books, and had 0 difficulty understanding things. So I would still stand with those who say you don't have to read the earlier books by the author.
The list 1:47 The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss 2:14 Circe by Madeline Miller 2:25 Anything written by George R. R. Martin 2:47 Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan 3:22 The Fifth Season by N. K. Jemisin 3:44 The Priory of the Orange Tree by Samantha Shannon 4:03 Harry Potter books by J.K. Rowling 4:24 The Dark Tower Series by Stephen King 4:32 Throne of Glass of anything else written by Sarah J. Maas 5:15 The First Law Trilogy by Joe Abercrombie 5:36 The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch 5:46 Mistborn: The Hero of Ages by Brandon Sanderson 5:52 Children of Blood and Bone by Tomi Adeyemi 6:00 Red Queen by Victoria Aveyard 6:10 A Darker Shade of Magic by V. E. Schwab 6:42 Six of Crows Duology by Leigh Bardugo
I massively disagree with the idea of The Kingkiller Chronicles (Name of The Wind), George R.R. Martin, The Wheel of Time, Harry Potter & The Dark Tower as being overrated. Yes not everyone likes the same stuff as everyone else, all people have different taste and we should all just respect each other's different likes & dislikes but dubbing something as overrated just because you personally hate it is very very unfair. Those aforementioned works are hugely popular & beloved because they are that awesome. Again these books might not be loved by every single person but they've definitely earned their respective massive fanbases because they are all good reads.
It’s quite strange, I’m currently reading Queen of Shadows and have noticed the big jump in swearing and body descriptions. Lots of muscled torso’s and full breasts and steamy scenes. I’m no prude in any way but I wonder if it still can be labelled as YA.
I feel like once she started focusing on the acotar series, it slipped more into throne of glass. Which I wasn't a huge fan of. Rowan started to feel like a long lost twin of rhys
The Court of Rose and Thorns series was actually New Adult and the bookstores put them in the YA section when they should have been put in the adult section. New Adult did not take off like writers wanted so they have to be advertised depending on the content as adult or YA. Since CORAT has some graphiic scenes they should be in the adult section
Yep I feel the same. I only read the last book of the series but saw all the movies and hear point by point break down over the years to the point I am quiet near to hating Harry Potter
Wherever anyone talk about overrated book they almost always talk about The Name of The Wind and that really hearts. But I THANK YOU for just sharing opinion like a mature reader and not trashing any books like many other RUclipsrs do...
It is overrated. Not because it's bad, but because it has a big (for me) plot hole: why after he learnt magic (Sympathy), he later doesn't even once try to use it after the "incident"? At least in book one, I read through ~3/4? He just completely forgets about it. Unless it's explained near the end?
@@MarMi00 i think this is explained in the books. I'll agree maybe something that the reader doesnt understand right away because its not explained right after it happens. I've encountered this problem myself. But later on Kvothe while narrating the story makes this speech about dealing with pain that says : “Perhaps the greatest faculty our minds possess is the ability to cope with pain. Classic thinking teaches us of the four doors of the mind, which everyone moves through according to their need. " First door is sleep, second is forgetting, third is madness and fourth is death. I think that after the loss of his parents, Kvothe's mind was too dameged, so he hides all of his memories behind the "second door" wich is forgetting. This includes memories about his parents, about is group of people and , of course, Sympathy Memories that comes back only after years and years of healing. Let me know if it was helpful in claryfing this aspect. Peace :)
@@MarMi00 i have a small theory : we know that sympathy takes strengh of mind so maybe something that will happen in the third book will weaken kvothe's mind? Also SPOILER ALERT : there is a moment in the present (so at the waystone inn ) when i think it was a soldier acting kinda like a zombie and kvothe tries to do sympathy to stop him but fails
@@pastapasteque3032 I was talking about his past (first book), when he learns Sympathy and then he conveniently (for the plot) forgets all about it without an explanation for two years. If only the author at least wrote that he tried to use it unsuccessfully it would be ok... But he doesn't even try.
Right?? It's not for everyone, style-wise, but it's nowhere near badly written. And I'm well into book three right now and I'm usually quite sensitive to bad treatment of LGBT in books, but I genuinely have no idea what that person is talking about, and I just finished book two last week.
The First Law books are awesome. I understand people being squeamish about all the blood and salty language, but Glokta is worth the price of admission alone. He's one of the best characters I've read in a long time (and he's hilarious in a sick, twisted sort of way). Anyone who can make a crippled, incontinent torturer a sympathetic character isn't guilty of bad writing.
Its probably because characters in ASOIAF go through so much horror and turmoil that you cant help but feel for them. I think the Stormlight Archive is my favourite though; by far one of my favourite magic systems and the characters and plot is fleshed out well and thought provoking.
Martin is better at character development than any modern writer I have read. That being said, I'll never forgive him for finishing the TV series before the books. Sellout.
Ok I've read the Six of Crows Duology before the Grisha trillogy, and I reread it again after reading the Grisha books... for me I did not miss the info about the Magic in Six of Crows, and I loved it. But also on the reread afterwards I only noticed how many things about the Grisha books were actually mentioned in Six of Crows.
I totally agree. I read SoC first and absolutely loved it - Grisha not so much. I thought the magic is not so important for the storyline of Six of Crows.
@@ammalyrical5646 I disagree. Speaking from a plot perspective, perhaps this opinion has merit; however, the SoC duology is clearly very character-orientated more than anything else, and several character arcs and relationships were nowhere near done by the end of SoC. The length of Crooked Kingdom was extremely necessary in order to further flesh out the complex personalities and dynamics between the crew. Any shorter and the character development would have felt rushed.
There's about one character I can think of from the First Law trilogy who the readers are made to know is lesbian. She is quite literally forced into secrecy based on the the medieval standards of her era and all of her behavior makes sense according to that fact. The book doesn't center on her relationship with her girlfriend either but you are supposed to feel bad because of what happens to her at the end. Not sure what people were expecting when she is not supposed to be the focal point of the story?
Some of the people can find some ridiculous hidden patterns and problems in places there are none. I guess that's just their specific way of doing things.
The Wheel of Time being overrated REALLY hurts my heart... I mean... Jordan always did get into too much detail with his world and scene building, but it's a quirk I grew to love since it helped paint ridiculously detailed images in my mind, lmao. To each their own, I suppose.
I'm trying to force myself through it again... it was one of the first fantasy series I read and I remembered the middle books being a slog but I didn't realize how bad the first books are....I've worn out 3 pairs of shoes reading the first two books. We traveled here, we traveled there, we traveled everywhere and we spent FOREVER doing it.... ffs tell me the story already!!!! I guess when I hadn't read anything good before I considered it to be OK. But now... I'm not sure I can struggle through this for another 12 books.
Audiobook is mandatory for me on this series. I tried reading it several times and just couldn't get into it. Audiobooked it and really enjoyed the series.
Whenever someone asks me about the Wheel of Time series I always refer to it as "The Greatest Series I Can Never Recommend" The early books are amazing and by the time the series gets it's middle books bloat you're already so sucked in that you have to see it through. The end disappointed me because it was clear that Jordan expected to have a whole other series so there were major arcs and plotlines that never got resolved... I still love the series, the characters and the world, but I cannot recommend for someone to go down that rabbit hole.
I'm so glad I read A Song of Ice and Fire many years before the tv series came out - It was pretty special in my opinion - such a variety of well portrayed and interesting characters, story lines and cultures. And I didnt watch the series until I'd read all of the available books so there was no interference. For me the series isnt complete - and that's ok actually.
My only complaint with Martin's writing is it seems he literally has to describe everything that everyone eats. All the time. In excruciating detail. He talks more about food than he does some pivotal characters lol. His obsession with food makes me roll my eyes rather than engages me. Other than that, great books. The series did well up to season 4. Then it just started going off the rails into the mind-boggling bad train wreck that it became.
That comment about Hero of Ages... I have to strongly disagree with hahahaha! Also, maybe this is not what that person meant, but I do not think that being LGBT should mean you have a shield in the character where they can only be good and whatnot...
I actually felt the exact same way as that person and I was pleasantly surprised to see someone else felt that way! I do love Mistborn overall though, but Well of Ascension is the best imo and Hero of Ages was the worst.
I read all first law trilogy in one go and these books left a very distasteful and depressing aftertaste. Close to the end I started to hate pretty much everyone. Stopped reading for over a month after that. Highly recommend. 10/10. ^_^ I felt the same about Hero of Ages. For me it is the only Sanderson book to date I haven't fully enjoyed. And I've read everything from him except mistborn second era and Alcatraz books.
@@joshrivers5191 How can they be underrated when they are international best sellers?????????????????????? Printed and sold in multiple languages by the millions, 25 million copies to be more precise!!! Do you even know what the term means? And if you really did respect that particular series, you'd refer to them by their proper labal, being the Song of Ice and Fire series. Have you even read them yourself? Because if you haven't, you are going to be undone very quickly.
@@Nemoticon uh yeah I've read them. How would I know if they're underrated otherwise? I'm not like the girl who made this video who put them on a list of overrated books despite having never read them. Any book with a decent publisher makes NY Times Best Seller. All you gotta do is sale a lot of books for 1 week. I don't know anybody in real life who has read them but everyone has seen the show. They aren't as popular as I think they should be and they aren't overrated by any means. They're popularity is well deserved. Go ahead and undo me lol. Whatever that means?
You can read "Knight of the seven kingdoms" the three novellas collection of tales of Dunk and Egg to get the taste of Gorge R.R. Martin's writing. I found the stories nice and easy to get without too much Game of Thrones stuff. Then you will finally have some idea about his writing. Yes on part 2
Idk i didn't read the first grisha trilogy and i absolutely loved the six of crows duology. It did bug me and i wasn't that interested at first, but it kind of made sense as I went along.
Same, at first i didn't finish reading SoC because the second chapter made me confused of why Joost is just used as an character introduction and not actually a relevant character to the story. that made me dissapointed. but when i tried to read it again i started to get attached to the story and the characters especially to Inej. and I'm currently reading the second book now, btw.
I 've known people who have read The First Law and didn't quite like enjoy it but none of them would dare say that Joe's a terrible writer. The man is excellent at dialogues. Easily one of the best right now. Which is why I find it a little weird for someone who has read an entire trilogy of this grim dark fantasy to come up with offensive LGBT depictions as the biggest concern.
I have to agree. It’s been a bit since I read the first trilogy so I’m possibly forgetting some scenes or dialogue, but claiming offensive LGBT depictions are one of the main issues with the books feels like it’s totally out of left field. 🤷🏻♂️
I agree with the person who talked about The Priory of the Orange Tree. I thought it was overwritten, light on plot for the first 500 pages, and had side quests that had little to do with the main plot. I could have put it down 200 pages from the end and not wondered what happened. I was just stubborn enough to finish it.
You should read Game of Thrones. I read the first three books before the tv show came out so I was stoked for the show when it came out. I think the books are *a lot* better, but glad the show gave it exposure and it was a good adaptation (before they had to make stuff up).
The Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind. Bad one dimensional characters and plot dead ends that take up almost entire books. So many encounters just blew my suspension of disbelief out of the water.
I read it a long time ago, and it was one of the first fantasy novels I finished.... At the time I liked Wizards First Rule. But even at that point, I thought the next book was junk (and I never read beyond it). I tried to read it again a couple years ago, and couldn't get through two chapters. For a guy who thinks so highly of himself, Goodkind is not a good writer.
By blowing your suspension of disbelief out of the water, are you talking about the chicken that isn't a chicken, the woman that was identified as evil because of her lack of nipples, the time Kahlan got naked and painted herself white and rode past the army to distract them, the part where they literally lick toads to enter the spirit world, or the time Richard carves a block of marble into a statue using a sword to teach the power of capitalisim and goes on a 10+ page diatribe ripped straight from Atlas Shrugged?
I loved SoT when I was 14. Tried to reread as an adult this year and made it about 10 chapters. Between the instalove and one of the worst Gary Stu MCs I've seen, it really really fails to hold up.
@@ebnovels It only has sections written in second person, and when you figure out whose perspective it is, it's a very nice pay off. Most of the book, and series, is in third person. It's honestly one of the top 5 "new" trilogies I've read over the past five years. But admittedly, the first few chapters do require a lot of patience.
I personally really enjoyed "The Priory of the Orange Tree". The beginning was a bit hard to get into, but the rest was nearly fantastic. I didn't find it boring at all, I actually thought there was a ton happening. You should definitely read it in my opinion.
One of my all time favourites is The Fionavar Tapestry by Guy Gavriel Kay. Guy Kay is the legend who helped Christopher Tolkien assemble The Silmarillion and the Fionavar Tapestry is stunning. Criminally underated.
His Sarantine Mosaic duology and Lions of al-Rassan stand-alone are also incredible. GGK is in a weird place where he's beloved by the people who've read him, but almost nobody has it seems. Certainly few of those who have care to talk about it.
I can see where hero of ages comes from. It was probably my favorite of the 3 because of how it came all together with all the reveals. But if I had to reread I probably wouldn't enjoy the first half as much. The final empire would be my favorite reread of the 3. Does this make sense >_
I've read mistborn series but not stormlight yet. Loved mistborn but didn't think it was as good as the Game of Thrones books. Maybe stormlight will change my mind. I think soft magic systems are better than hard magic systems though I did enjoy what Sanderson did with the mistborn magic. 3rd book was actually my favorite haha.
The second book for me really drags. The third book did a little as well. But the first one (The Final Empire) is exceptional. Overall I loved how it ended though.
Anything by Sanderson. I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I think his dialogue is sometimes cringeworthy and his prose is terrible. I like his magic systems and worldbuilding, but overall his books are average at best. Again, just my opinion.
I completely agree with you. I know a lot of people really like Sanderson, but I have read two of his books and I didn't really like either of them so I have given up. Hahaha. His books are just not for me.
I have to say that of all Sanderson's books, I enjoyed them all, that I was the least impressed by mistborn. Interesting concept and all, bad guy wins builds evil empire, but if I'm being honest it felt like most of the book was just a description of the magic being used.
I know it's not a popular topic online, but what did you think of the sword of truth series? Terry Goodkind. I know he lost it at the end, but I did like the story of the first few books. Why does erfgrond hate his writing? (we understand why we hate him, though) And also, David Eddings? Belgariad. These are two series of novels I've always returned to... Have I just not found better book series that appeal to me?
so lucky that no lotr shaming was in here i kinda hate myself for it but startet this vid like : imma smack the hell of the one that criticises my lord
Agreed, Tolkien is top tier. Personally, I don't think too many fantasy books come close in terms of literary merit--theres something to be said about the sophistication of his prose, well-developed poetry, and close attention to linguistic complexity that's unfortunately lacking in much of modern fantasy imo
@@jacob5029 thats probably because Tolkien decided to publish the whole series as a single book (which he did). It was later broken down cuz it was too big
I thought it was actually quite badly written. At least, the first book was for sure. It's been years since I've read it, but it drove me away from fantasy for about a year. Not only did I not like the first book, I thought it was badly written in certain parts. No, I can't give any examples and I know I should. I'd have to dig my copy out from storage and go through it. Maybe the other two books moved the trilogy in a good direction, but the first book was one of the worst fantasy novels I've read.
I agree with @meepsel. You may not like the book but I don't see how you could knock the writing. Also I don't remember anything in this book that portrayed LGBTQ in anyway, maybe I forgot
@@jbcox85 It has one lesbian character, Queen Terez. Honesty there is nothing wrong with how she is depicted but there is a scene where Glokta figures out that she is a lesbian and that is why she will not sleep with her husband King Jezal and he threatens to have her mistress gang-raped if she doesn't produce 4 heirs (he also has her arrested as insurance). Which is another example of how brutal Glokta is but we already knew that but I don't think it is a bad depiction of her
I just finished Broken Earth trilogy (the Fifth season) and I too felt quite uncomfortable reading in second person. But I strongly suggest pushing through, because the story that get's told through the books is beautiful, though provoking and by the second book I was toatly into it.
I bought the entire series for a long stay in the hospital. There I was... trapped with three books I couldn't get thru. I know it's me, but I found Broken Earth unreadable.
@@lexwaldez I've just dnf'd fifth season a little over half way. Googled the plot summary and I'm really not missing anything. We don't even get the resolutions I wanted in this book
No book is for everyone, and likewise no book is for no-one. We can just be mature about it and respect an opinion 👍 Currently reading The Magicians by Grossman.. holy smokes what a dumpster fire 😂 Had to get that off my chest. Dark Tower is weird in many ways - only devout King readers might glean the meaning out of it.. and even many of them might hate it. I liked it . But I'm weird. Martin is definitely overrated, but then I feel the same way about Sanderson - comparing the two doesn't add much. Harry Potter was a beloved book read by many impressionable youths who are now active on platforms like this, and has been overhyped for so long - along with the movies. I never got the hype, but if people love it, let them. I do think it got a lot more people into reading fantasy, and that's always a win in my book.
Throne of Glass series is definitely overhyped, it’s not awful though. The books do get much better as the series goes along, I admit I struggled with the first book because I found quite a few elements frustrating and also forced to move the plot along. Glad I stuck with it though, it’s fun but not the masterpiece the hype says.
Nah it gets worse after Heir of Fire. Literally all the male characters are the same (disgusting, possessive, creepy, territorial) person copy and pasted. And the female characters barely have differences. And Aelin and Rowan are completely insufferable. None of the romances have any chemistry. And for a series that supposedly features a global empire, it's ridiculously white. At least that's how it was in Empire of Storms, which is where I decided to DNF the series. Throne of Glass was passable. The Assassin's Blade was fun. Crown of Midnight was excellent. Heir of Fire was good. Queen of Shadows it was easy to ignore the problems piling up. Empire of Storms was the straw that broke the camel's back. I wanted to keep reading because the plot was interesting and I wanted to see how it would resolve, but I just don't care about any of the characters.
Harry Potter for sure. I understand that many people love the series, but I don't understand the extent of the hype. It often gets put on a pedestal. I have no idea why. Edit: Eragon. My wife loves those books, but I have no idea why. I didn't even make it halfway through the first one. It was so boring and generic.
this is why im reading grisha triology before six of crows. the world building is so immense in this series i cant imagine her repeating everything in six of crows which is why im surprised people say you dont HAVE to read it before. Plus, its not a terrible story or characters.
As a resident Tower junkie, I'm surprised to find it in here. Maybe it's the internal "language" of the books, the concepts like khef, ka, and ka-tet that annoy the person who posted that, but that was one of the biggest draws for me! I've gotten a friend who hasn't even touched the books to understand these concepts, because it basically amounts to the "found family" trope, and the "blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb" ideal. Am I alone in that? Is it really that annoying?
Sadly the HP one. I feel like i can't even bring myself to enjoy it because its so overhyped and maybe it's just in my personal experience but most of the time the people that overhype it are the ones that only saw the movies and didn't read the book. *waiting for the hate comments 😣*
I won the whole series from a raffle ticket event from my old school years ago. Was surprised and excited at the time. After stopping at book five, I had to give it away. My interest in the books had dropped. I'll still watch the movies but I couldn't finish the books.
I like the books much more than the movies, but yeah, it is over-hyped. I have been an avid reader for 40 years and as much as I enjoy the books - there is little in them that is original. The best thing she did was merging the magic and non-magic world in current day. That worked pretty well, generally. And I still tend to reread the series once a year. 😎
Hmm... Overhyped... Ah. Here's a good one: Red Rising is a paper thin allegory, it's offensive how bad the female characters are written, and the main character is so stupid he falls for the exact same trick twice in the same chapter.
Anyway who is thinking of picking up Circe I highly recommend the audiobook!! The narrator has a beautiful voice and does a great job. Completely changes the experience.
I don't care for the lord of the rings books. I've tried reading them 3 times and can't get thru them. Maybe seeing the movies first ruined it for me...
OMG yes. I've started Part 2 of Last Wish and so far I'm liking it even better than Martin of Jordan. Most people know him only for the games but I'm hoping with the launch of the Netflix series more people will be drawn to the books.
Unpopular opinion: I liked Six of Crows but didn’t LOVE it like everyone else did, it was just okay. I think sadly Leigh Bardugo just isn’t the author for me
1 The wheel of time 2 The wheel of time 3 Anything by NK Jemisin 4 Wise Man's Fear 5 First mistborn trilogy 6 Dark Shade of magic 7 children of meh and meh (Did not finish that trash) 8 Oatbringer 100 The wheel of time Did i mention the wheel of time
I probably shouldn't comment on The Blade Itself (since I'm only 1/4 of the way in). But wow, this is tough going. The dialogue is generally just bad-if one more character says "Argh..." I'm going to have to put the book down for a bit. The descriptions are odd, or sometimes completely contradicting-even within the same paragraph. I'm hopeful that it improves, but that's mainly because I got the First Law trilogy at a really good price. Otherwise, I probably would have given up. The Logen chapters are approaching terrible. Does it get better...ever?
@@clauricaune as is the fact that the bastard is so in love with being a famous TV producer now that he's never going to bother finishing the series. He could have been remembered for decades and decades for writing an all-time great fiction series.. instead he'll be remembered for a few years for having made a cool HBO show.
A Song of Ice and Fire isn't for everyone. It's long, dark, brutal, and at times there are too many characters and plots going on at once (some of them are even boring). But to say Sanderson is a better writer than GRR Martin is an atrocity.
I'm at book nine of WoT, and my feelings are a bit mixed. There's some characters I LOVE, some that's a bit meh, and others again that I absolutely hate (and not in a love-to-hate way). The cringy love quadrangle should also have been cut completely...
@@ebnovels No thanks, that just greedy... I'm good with my one LOL. Totally agree with the cringy comment. Maybe it's wish fulfillment by author, but more likely product of his time (Conan from 1980's, WOT from 1990's) which I believe makes his writing feel dated and not in a good way.
@@ebnovels Not really, but I didn't like the way it was handled with Rand. His entire relationship and "marriage" with Aviendha and (especially) Elayne feels forced and awkward. I think it would have worked much better with Min as main love interest, and Aviendha and Elayne as something more short term.
While at times the 4-way relationship thing seems a bit awkward in the books, Robert Jordan was actually extremely ahead of his time in terms of theme. Polyamory is only now beginning to experience mainstream acceptance and legitimacy. Rand isn’t some brainwashing polygamist forcing young girls into marriage. Each of the four are consenting adults who honestly love each other and, while not explicitly stated, it can be reasonably inferred that Elayne and Avienda are to some extent sexually involved. There’s absolutely nothing ‘cringy’ about a group of consenting adults wanting to enter a sexual and loving relationship together. WoT woke AF
@@kristianwatt7966 I didn't express myself clearly... I didn't mean that Rand forced Elayne and Aviendha into anything, but that their undying love for him doesn't have enough of a foundation for me to believe in it. Elayne hardly spent any time at all with him before he left Tear, and Aviendha seemed quite adamant that she wanted to end it after their one-night-stand in Seanchan. I can believe in both as teenage flings, but not much more. Min is the only one I think really works with Rand because they actually spent a decent amount of time together, and worked together as partners and friends.
I couldn't finish Lies of Locklemora, just couldn't get into it! I'm kinda curious that you said in this video you didn't find Name of the Wind that great but yet you put it in your top Adult Fantasy books! What's up w that? Oh and just wondering what are those books lined up on your bottom shelf to care right? A whole bunch, is that anime? Thx
A few series that I think are overhyped: Harry Potter. Fun series, definitely enjoyed them, so many plot holes and deus ex machina. Not the absolute best thing ever. Sword of Truth. In my honest opinion, these books got worse and worse as it went on. And the first book was pretty crap. Song of Ice and Fire. First book was awesome. Downhill from there. It took me a year to get through the five books that are out. Dragged so much. And let's mention that the tv show came out after book 5, completed eight seasons, and book 6 is still not out.
Honestly, Lord of the Rings has such a slow and meandering pace. I love the films, and I’m really impressed with the world building, but good god man, get on with it.
The original Mistborn trilogy, I don't understand why everyone is so over the moon about this series, the characters are often frustrating and each book is more of a slog than the previous one. Another one is Malazan Book of the Fallen. It started ok, had some great books in the middle, then by the end it left me feeling completely robbed, I can't talk about that series without becoming physically upset.
yeah Malazan was a massive disappointment: it was so universally praised and recommended, that I figured it HAD to be at least decent. So I just went ahead and bought all 10 books.. only to discover that no, it was just terrible: boring 1-dimensional characters, no overarching story, no planning, just book after book of pointless meandering garbage.
@@enaidealukal9203 "...no overarching story, no planning, just book after book of pointless meandering ..." I will be the first to admit that Malazan Book of the Fallen isn't for everyone, but I can assure you it has an overarching story and meticulous planning. Unfortunately, you won't understand where the story is going until half-way through book 10. Not kidding...not even a little.
@@frutrace call me crazy, but if you can't discern any overarching plot, planning, or coherence until 9 1/2 books into a 10 book series, that's... problematic, to put it mildly. Certainly disqualifies it from being considered quality fiction, in my book- but to each their own and all, I suppose.
I do agree with the Wheel of Time, haha. It's just that at some point the characters start moving from one place to another and the story never moves forward until Sanderson comes in to finish it.
The Wheel of Time never moves forward until Sanderson comes in to finish the series? That's pretty harsh. I agree that parts of the books could've been shortened but implying that Robert Jordan never truly progressed the story & that it only got good once Sanderson took over is a serious disservice to Mr Jordan & his magnum opus.
@@DragonHeart613 First: I don't say it never got good before Sanderson. It was very good in the first books. Second: I don't have any reason to service Jordan. He had good and bad things, like most writers.
I agree with some of these, Name of the wind was so disappointing. Hero of Ages was actually my favorite of the mistborn series and I LOVED The Fifth season. I do get why some people didn’t like The Fifth season at first it was hard to get into the writing style but once I got used to it it was really good. Very unique plot, world and characters, o thought it was outstanding. I also really liked The Priory of the orange tree, a few places were slow but overall I thought it was a fun read.
I also loved Fifth Season. But I get why some people don’t. If you are the type of reader who has to understand everything that is going on all the time, you will have a hard time with this. I also don’t mind second person perspective if used right, and I feel this made sense here.
Chatper 1 or the prologue? I do agree that the prologue of book 1 is diffilcult to get through at first. I actually skipped it on my first read through but now that i've read the rest I appreciate t much more.
Calling First Law poorly written seems kind of absurd to me - you don't have to like it, you can even detest it, but it's just not poorly written by any stretch of the imagination.
I never read the Grisha trilogy before Six of Crows, and I was never confused. I love the SoC duology so much. I’m trying to get into the Grisha trilogy, I don’t know what’s holding me back though, I’ve really liked what I’ve read of Shadow and Bone.
Interesting, I have read Name of the Wind and Wise Man's Fear about 3 times. Want to read it again when I have time. I wonder what people look for in a good book. Part of its beauty for me is in the little things that you pick up on your 2nd or 3rd read. For example 7 words that make a woman fall in love with you.. and on additional reads you see all the times Kvothe employed that. It's like a little Easter Egg, and there are many many more you find upon a close read. You should've spent more time blasting Dark Tower though. That was absolutely horrendous for most of it.
I tried reading lot of the rings in HS and that shit was SO BORING I got to the part where they met beorne and quit it. Since then I've found that Silmarillion is more my style. Lore and Mythos style writing is definitely my favorite out of all others
anyone who doesn't, at a minimum, read The Drawing of the Three is really doing themselves a disservice :) and i'm not even a fan of 90% of SK's books!
I think once enough people say that something is ‘overrated’ it’s not really ‘overrated’ anymore. Example: throne of glass. Literally everyone says that book is overhyped but the ratio of people on booktube who didn’t like that book to people that did is like 10:1.
Not liking a book because it may offend less than 1% of a population that reads it in only a sentence or two is not a very logical reason to dislike a book. I just read the First Law Trilogy over the summer and cannot for the life of me remember a main character that was offensive towards the LGBTQ community. Maybe there was, but, so what? Same dif with ytuber Daniel Greene, I stopped watching his vids for same reasons. Complaining that the one gay character in Name of the Wind was a rapist, was offensive towards gays. When did our race become such pansy flowers? Can't write a fictional novel without offending someone, or forcing your creative story to be pigeon holed to appease some minority to not being offended. Good bye art, hello accepted art.
Feast is the best mate, reread them all again and youll enjoy it more than the others, and Dance is incredible too. Storm is faster paced and maybe more surprising but 4 and 5 are incredible
It really is, and it makes me very sad that it likely will never be finished. It was also uniquely equipped for the sort of broad popular appeal the TV version achieved: all these streaming services trying to find "the next Game of Thrones" are destined to fail, because it was the story and the characters peculiar to ASOIAF that made it so appealing to non-fantasy fans (all the moral ambiguous characters, political intricacies and schemes and betrayals... and of course, the unexpected character deaths, oh those character deaths). As great as e.g. the Wheel of Time or the Witcher are, they do not have those elements.
@@JLchevz These two are better on re-read, but they still have terrible pacing, a lot of wasted time coupled with cliffhanger, which don't work so well when years separate one book from the other. Not to mention a lot of rushed new characters that simply don't have the time to be so interesting (Arianne, Areo, Victarion, and others).
Id give GOT series a read . Half the books you mention pretty much base themselves on it and it's becoming increasingly unlikely that the series is going to be completed. Joe Abercrombie has now written 7 books within the world of the First Law series, they are all great. And there is a huge hole in your fantasy reviews - where is Anthony Ryan? The Raven Shadow and Draconis Memoria series' are absolutely epic and very well written. Ok thats about 5 million words worth of suggestions, hope you havent got any plans for the future:) I listen to them all on audiobooks in traffic jams. GOT helped me through many mega traffic jams on the M62 ( UK motorway) - Enjoyed your vids
I've read the released Stormlight and ASoIaF novels and comparing the two would broadly say Martin is the better writer. I love Stormlight and Sanderson, but his books just seem a touch more shallow (not necessarily in world building, but in plot and backstory) and less mature compared to Martin's. That said, I have much greater respect for how Sanderson is continuously working on his books and I hope that the recent news of him working on a TV series doesn't begin turning him into George "every book takes at least a year longer to write" Martin.
GoT books are far better than the cluster **c* that is the show. Among the best character driven narratives I have read... do not wait read the 5 books and join the fans breathing down georges back to finish it before hes 120 years old.
How is RA Salvatore not on this list? Don't get me wrong, I love the Drizzt novels but going back and rereading them 20 years after middle school is a bit rough.
The name of the wind it's soooo boring and Kvothe is super annoying. I wasn't gonna read The wise man's fear but the final pages were actually interesting. I would not read again the first book
I love A game of thrones but it's definitely not for everyone. You can get confused with the huge cast. And if you don't like details than it can get boring for you. I personally enjoyed everything about it. Some also don't like how he describes violence detailed and how he does not describe every single tree. His writing style is hard to get through for some people but I think it is great because I was able to read it fluently. While Tolkien (adore his work) describes the world, martin tells us more about the characters and creates a huge character development. Also their is no character who is good or bad. everyone has flaws and strength and acts realistically. In the first book there are 8 povs and for me everyone was very interesting and I love them all (even though Sansa is spoiled but she is supposed to be annoying 😂) Also the turns are so unpredictable and they get more unpredictable from book to book. That is what I love. but the best thing is to set your expectations pretty low because it isn't really happening that much in the first half of the book but it is the most important part and you really have to be concentrated or you'll miss important information. And don't worry that much about those many characters. There is a glossar where the history and characters get explained shortly. It helps me a lot Thanks for reading this huge comment😂☺xx
My biggest issue with "Throne of Glass" wasn't that it had romance... It was that it had a protagonist who was supposed to be the ultimate bad@$$ assassin, and instead ran around behaving like a spoiled, clothes-obsessed teeny-bopper. Seriously. Other than annoying readers to death, I had a hard time imagining her being a legitimate threat to anyone. LOL! However, I have to say the Maas' other series, Court of Thorns and Roses, was immensely better. The plot was far less flat, the protagonist wasn't useless, and the series was actually an enjoyable light read.
I agree. Im in the middle of Feast of Crows. I haven't been able to stop. Some of the best fantasy books I've ever read. I love the lord of the rings but in all honesty ASOIAF has been way more entertaining to me. When's that mofo gonna get done with Winds of Winter? I don't look forward to finishing Dance of Dragons.
@@joshrivers5191 I've commented on the issue with mister Tolkien many times on other comments. It seems as though people are too awed and starstruck to give any actual critique of his writing. Tolkien was a linguist and a poet. *Not* a writer. He did not necessarily count himself as such and wrote initially for children but lord of the rings quote 'grew in the telling'. And oh lord did it do that. There are SO many issues with the structure and overall writing of Tolkien, concerning any literary merit. However he is a brilliant AUTHOR, because he created a world and all of that, which is absolutely stunning and game changing for the fantasy genre. Being a writer and being an author are different things, and people just pan it down to 'its just his writing style'. No, this 'writing style' would be called poor skill in prose and narrative and structure. So there's a rant lmao no hate for Tolkien his universe is amazing but his WRITING compared to George is just leagues from eachother. Glad you are enjoying a feast for crows, it gets a lot of shit compared to the rest George has said he is currently putting every other project aside so he can finish winds of winter. But we never really know with him.
@@lanadelrey1617 I like feast more than any so far. Maybe cuz it's completely diverged from the show. I'm hoping for next year for Winds but I imagine it will 2021 or 22. And then hopefully he lives to a ripe old age cuz he'll be over 100 by the time he finishes Dream of Spring at this rate.
@@joshrivers5191 The question about a dream of spring is entirely dependant on where winds of winter ends. We know roughly what happens in the broad- stroke-mess that is the show but we don't know where winds of winter ends in the seasons and where a dream of spring starts. So that book could possible be much sooner than winds of winter was in comparison to a dance with dragons. If I doesn't outlive the books then maybe some other author could finish it with his wishes like that of Robert Jordan and Sandersen, however unsatisfying that would be.
but he is suck at prose. what turned me off of asoiaf is the writing. it's mediocore at best. typical contemporer writer. What makes lotr great is the writing. you might come up with better story, but if your writing sucks no one would really cared for your books. i always say, that tolkien's writing is the kind writing that would please even the likes of gods. example : “And far away, as Frodo put on the Ring and claimed it for his own, even in Sammath Naur the very heart of his realm, the Power in Barad-dûr was shaken, and the Tower trembled from its foundations to its proud and bitter crown. The Dark Lord was suddenly aware of him, and his Eye piercing all shadows looked across the plain to the door that he had made; and the magnitude of his own folly was revealed to him in a blinding flash, and all the devices of his enemies were at last laid bare. Then his wrath blazed in consuming flame, but his fear rose like a vast black smoke to choke him. For he knew his deadly peril and the thread upon which his doom now hung. From all his policies and webs of fear and treachery, from all his stratagems and wars his mind shook free; and throughout his realm a tremor ran, his slaves quailed, and his armies halted, and his captains suddenly steerless, bereft of will, wavered and despaired. For they were forgotten. The whole mind and purpose of the Power that wielded them was now bent with overwhelming force upon the Mountain. At his summons, wheeling with a rending cry, in a last desperate race there flew, faster than the winds, the Nazgûl, the Ringwraiths, and with a storm of wings they hurtled southwards to Mount Doom.” --- “His thought turned to the Ring, but there was no comfort there, only dread and danger. No sooner had he come in sight of Mount Doom, burning far away, than he was aware of a change in his burden. As it drew near the great furnaces where, in the deeps of time, it had been shaped and forged, the Ring's power grew, and it became more fell, untameable except by some mighty will. As Sam stood there, even though the Ring was not on him but hanging by its chain about his neck, he felt himself enlarged, as if he were robed in a huge distorted shadow of himself, a vast and ominous threat halted upon the walls of Mordor. He felt that he had from now on only two choices: to forbear the Ring, though it would torment him; or to claim it, and challenge the Power that sat in its dark hold beyond the valley of shadows. Already the Ring tempted him, gnawing at his will and reason. Wild fantasies arose in his mind; and he saw Samwise the Strong, Hero of the Age, striding with a flaming sword across the darkened land, and armies flocking to his call as he marched to the overthrow of Barad-dur. And then all the clouds rolled away, and the white sun shone, and at his command the vale of Gorgoroth became a garden of flowers and trees and brought forth fruit. He had only to put on the Ring and claim it for his own, and all this could be. In that hour of trial it was his love of his master that helped most to hold him firm; but also deep down in him lived still unconquered his plain hobbit-sense: he knew in the core of his heart that he was not large enough to bear such a burden, even if such visions were not a mere cheat to betray him. The one small garden of a free gardener was all his need and due, not a garden swollen to a realm; his own hands to use, not the hands of others to command. 'And anyway all these notions are only a trick, he said to himself.” martin would never be able to write something like that. which is understandable. most writers won't
Omfg I’m a big Harry Potter but I definitely agree. I saw someone crying over something Laini Taylor tweeted about Slytherins and I just felt like, seriously? It’s a pretend school house from a children’s book. It’s not real, why does anyone care so much? It’s like people who get mad when you talk crap about scorpios or someone’s MBTI personality.
@@NerdyDude186 The Harry Potter series is essentially modern day Dickens. Kids 150 years from now will still be reading the series. Whether you like it or not, they are equally as impactful as Lord of the Rings. Timeless.
damonke79 The series is not that good. You can say its good but idc it's my opinion. Also Lord of the Rings is the definition of age old trash. It's overhyped. I don't care for LotR. People only read that and say they read fantasy. It's idiotic. People praise it like it's the end all of fantasy. It's not it's the inspiration for a genre. That doesn't mean I have to like it. Harry Potter is pretty bad. I used to love that shit. Last 4 books i was at midnight releases and would talk ears off of everyone. Then I started reading good fantasy. I grew out of Harry Potter faster than a fat kid finishes a cake. It's not that great. I recently listened to the series. It was a pain in the ass to get through because I was bored listening to it. The dialogue is weak the story is bland and tired and its great... FOR CHILDREN. As an adult it's pretty bad.
@@NerdyDude186 I'm not saying it's the end all be all but I do think it's an amazing entryway for kids to get into the genre. Like what you like but the impact of the Harry Potter series is undeniable at this point. Is there better? Of course. What I'm saying is that in terms of just pure influence and impact on the genre as a whole, the HP series is huge. You can't tell a story about the genre without Harry Potter getting a chapter, therefore, I think it's wrong to tell someone they aren't missing anything. They are actually missing a lot.
Witcher, I do like the books but the writing is ok at points and that damn Yarugala river! I have PTSD from how often in the books they come into contact with that damn thing you'd think that was the only river in the whole world! The way the writer focuses on the women's anatomy when you are suppose to be in their POV is annoying as well and at points Geralt is obviously writer insert. That all being said there are things to enjoy about the books but these few were really not those elements for me.
ASOIAF, most definitely overrated for me. Couldn't even finish the first book, fell asleep reading it. Went back to the wheel of time and never looked back. PS. She's gorgeous.
Does anyone else just squint into the background and try to figure out what books the person has instead of actually looking at the person😂😂
Tradjick I do the exact same thing and I have no idea y😂😂I’m so weird
Well, I do. Yesterday I purchased The Folk of the Air trilogy because she has it in her collection. 😂
I just screenshoted and zoomed the books😂😂😂
Three seconds in I recognised Brandon Sanderson behind her left shoulder, so.... no, we're all either weird or super observant
Mickey Frickin mouse The first thing I did.
I read the Six of Crows duology without reading the Grisha trilogy, and I enjoyed them immensely
I agree I liked the original trilogy but six of crows and crooked kingdom were superior writing in my opinion
Same
I just sarted with Six of Crows and didn't realise it was part of a universe. I kinda felt like someone thrw me into cold water because I missed the explanation or something. It hella confused me but I also liked it. And tbh if I had started with Grisha I think I would't have read through the end.
I've just finished it three days ago and still can't get it out of my mind. That's why I'm watching fantasy book recommendation videos 😂😉
I truly don't understand people comparing Sanderson and Martin (or the weird theory that if Martin dies before finishing the series, Sanderson will complete it.) The ONLY similarity between their books is that they both write fantasy, but even then, their style of fantasy are........
Not the same. At all. Their writing styles couldn't be more different, and the actual content is incomparable. Such a weird comparison to make, imo
This is oddly humorous lol
Agreed
Completly agree. I find Sanderson books very interesting but I can't connect with his writing, with GRRM is kinda the opposit for me. They write very differently, don't aproach similar topics or characterisation... Yeah, they both just write fantasy and that's where similarities end. Both talented and with a huge fanbese! Good for them
Sanderson has expressly stated he wouldn't even attempt to complete it if asked
Here I am just figuring out Smh means shake my head.
mrgodliak Same! I actually thought it meant so much hate. Oops? Lol.
I thought it meant suck my head. I literally was listening to her
I thought it's short of 'somehow' 🤣🤣
This post gave me a good laugh. 😆
mrgodliak took me asking my younger brother 😆
The Sanderson/Martin comparison doesn’t even make sense. They’re completely different styles and each of them are amazing at what they do.
YES . EXACTLY .
Except sanderson actually finishes his books.
Sanderson is not amazing at what he does. His prose is terrible and cardboard characters...damn, so bad.
How people can make it, is beyond me completely different in style and approach and delivery
@@VeyroneR Lol. That's just your opinion. And your opinion is in a very slim minority.
He loves writing books and he is awesome at what he does. And he consistently keeps producing high-quality stuff.
I love Name of the Wind. But I would never sit there and say "this book is for everyone!" It is clearly not and because of that aspect I can understand why people would say its overhyped.
What kind of people do you think its for? I'm thinking of reading it but idk if I'll like it
@@giginoelani5880 if you like very character driven stories I think you would really enjoy this. There are a lot of very interesting characters. The world is very interesting as well and has a TON of lore to explore if you are into that kind of stuff.
I will caution, this book is relatively slow paced. I typically prefer faster paced books, but for this one the slower pace didnt bother me because the characters, plot, world, and lore were so interesting. But I know that did make it not for some people. As I'm sure you have heard the writing style is beautiful. Patrick Rothfuss has a great way of putting emotions into words that I've never seen in a fantasy author before.
Hope that helps!
It does sound like something I'll like :)
I think I'll pick it up at the library and check it out
@@giginoelani5880 that's great! I hope you end up loving it!
@@davids2735 i hope so too! I always loved Patrick Rothfuss' reviews on Neil Gaiman's (my fav author) books!
I read Six of Crows first and had no trouble understanding the magic system. Of the two series, Six of Crows is my favorite.
I’m actually happy to read this. I was going to read six of crows next and was a little worried after hearing that.
I didn't have trouble understanding the magic system either but I still recommend people read the grisha trilogy before six of crows if they're going to read both. I also prefer six of crows over the grisha trilogy and feel like you understand more. We don't know much about Nina or Ravka and the whole army thing going on. We also meet a few central characters from the grisha trilogy in six of crows at some point and it's way more meaningful after getting to know them in the grisha trilogy
I just read SoC and am in the middle of CK, without having read the hrosha books, and had 0 difficulty understanding things. So I would still stand with those who say you don't have to read the earlier books by the author.
Completely agree! I absolutely loved SOC and have no intention of reading the grisha trilogy
The list
1:47 The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss
2:14 Circe by Madeline Miller
2:25 Anything written by George R. R. Martin
2:47 Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan
3:22 The Fifth Season by N. K. Jemisin
3:44 The Priory of the Orange Tree by Samantha Shannon
4:03 Harry Potter books by J.K. Rowling
4:24 The Dark Tower Series by Stephen King
4:32 Throne of Glass of anything else written by Sarah J. Maas
5:15 The First Law Trilogy by Joe Abercrombie
5:36 The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch
5:46 Mistborn: The Hero of Ages by Brandon Sanderson
5:52 Children of Blood and Bone by Tomi Adeyemi
6:00 Red Queen by Victoria Aveyard
6:10 A Darker Shade of Magic by V. E. Schwab
6:42 Six of Crows Duology by Leigh Bardugo
Holy shit, is there anything you actually like?
@@atthebridge overrated is not always bad
@@Yuuzhanvongg high five!
Disagree with first law being over rated. I guess all of these seem boring and trite after Malazan.
I massively disagree with the idea of The Kingkiller Chronicles (Name of The Wind), George R.R. Martin, The Wheel of Time, Harry Potter & The Dark Tower as being overrated. Yes not everyone likes the same stuff as everyone else, all people have different taste and we should all just respect each other's different likes & dislikes but dubbing something as overrated just because you personally hate it is very very unfair.
Those aforementioned works are hugely popular & beloved because they are that awesome. Again these books might not be loved by every single person but they've definitely earned their respective massive fanbases because they are all good reads.
I love SJM’s books but I completely agree, they should NOT be marketed as YA.
It’s quite strange, I’m currently reading Queen of Shadows and have noticed the big jump in swearing and body descriptions. Lots of muscled torso’s and full breasts and steamy scenes. I’m no prude in any way but I wonder if it still can be labelled as YA.
Xsari Wait till Empire of storms. Definitely not YA
I feel like once she started focusing on the acotar series, it slipped more into throne of glass. Which I wasn't a huge fan of. Rowan started to feel like a long lost twin of rhys
They're marketed as New Adult, but because it's such a newer group, most bookstores dont know where to place it so they put it with ya.
The Court of Rose and Thorns series was actually New Adult and the bookstores put them in the YA section when they should have been put in the adult section. New Adult did not take off like writers wanted so they have to be advertised depending on the content as adult or YA. Since CORAT has some graphiic scenes they should be in the adult section
i agree with the harry potter statement hahahaha not because it's middle grade but because I'm literally just SO tired of hearing about it 24/7
Kayla M The Way of Kings is better than Mistborn. It’s by the same author and it’s one of his later and much bigger works.
Then, don't hear it :(. Let people talk what they want :(
Yep I feel the same. I only read the last book of the series but saw all the movies and hear point by point break down over the years to the point I am quiet near to hating Harry Potter
Wherever anyone talk about overrated book they almost always talk about The Name of The Wind and that really hearts. But I THANK YOU for just sharing opinion like a mature reader and not trashing any books like many other RUclipsrs do...
Haha, I try! Deep down, I of course really don’t like some books, but I’m very aware that it’s just my opinion 😆
It is overrated. Not because it's bad, but because it has a big (for me) plot hole: why after he learnt magic (Sympathy), he later doesn't even once try to use it after the "incident"? At least in book one, I read through ~3/4? He just completely forgets about it. Unless it's explained near the end?
@@MarMi00 i think this is explained in the books. I'll agree maybe something that the reader doesnt understand right away because its not explained right after it happens. I've encountered this problem myself. But later on Kvothe while narrating the story makes this speech about dealing with pain that says : “Perhaps the greatest faculty our minds possess is the ability to cope with pain. Classic thinking teaches us of the four doors of the mind, which everyone moves through according to their need. " First door is sleep, second is forgetting, third is madness and fourth is death. I think that after the loss of his parents, Kvothe's mind was too dameged, so he hides all of his memories behind the "second door" wich is forgetting. This includes memories about his parents, about is group of people and , of course, Sympathy Memories that comes back only after years and years of healing. Let me know if it was helpful in claryfing this aspect. Peace :)
@@MarMi00 i have a small theory : we know that sympathy takes strengh of mind so maybe something that will happen in the third book will weaken kvothe's mind?
Also SPOILER ALERT : there is a moment in the present (so at the waystone inn ) when i think it was a soldier acting kinda like a zombie and kvothe tries to do sympathy to stop him but fails
@@pastapasteque3032 I was talking about his past (first book), when he learns Sympathy and then he conveniently (for the plot) forgets all about it without an explanation for two years. If only the author at least wrote that he tried to use it unsuccessfully it would be ok... But he doesn't even try.
I understand not liking First Law, but saying its badly written... smh
Right?? It's not for everyone, style-wise, but it's nowhere near badly written. And I'm well into book three right now and I'm usually quite sensitive to bad treatment of LGBT in books, but I genuinely have no idea what that person is talking about, and I just finished book two last week.
It kinda triggered me to be honest. Lmfao. Joe Abercrombie is a gem.
Exactly. I'm the same with the last three Dark Tower books.
The First Law books are awesome. I understand people being squeamish about all the blood and salty language, but Glokta is worth the price of admission alone. He's one of the best characters I've read in a long time (and he's hilarious in a sick, twisted sort of way). Anyone who can make a crippled, incontinent torturer a sympathetic character isn't guilty of bad writing.
The Blade Itself was kind of badly written, especially the prologue. Abercrombie improved markedly after that.
i read six of crows first and completely understood it???
Jaycee Tackett same!
Whoever wrote that Circe comment....YES good sir or madam. YES!!!!
About GRRM - I like Sanderson but I was much more emotionally invested in ASOIAF than in any of the Sanderson books I’ve read.
Too true. I can't relate as much to any mistborn character as even the most minor of ASOIAF's characters
Completely agree. If she'd read them I doubt she would've included it in this video. In my opinion they're underrated.
@@JLchevz why would you relate to book chars?
Its probably because characters in ASOIAF go through so much horror and turmoil that you cant help but feel for them. I think the Stormlight Archive is my favourite though; by far one of my favourite magic systems and the characters and plot is fleshed out well and thought provoking.
Martin is better at character development than any modern writer I have read. That being said, I'll never forgive him for finishing the TV series before the books. Sellout.
Ok I've read the Six of Crows Duology before the Grisha trillogy, and I reread it again after reading the Grisha books...
for me I did not miss the info about the Magic in Six of Crows, and I loved it. But also on the reread afterwards I only noticed how many things about the Grisha books were actually mentioned in Six of Crows.
I totally agree. I read SoC first and absolutely loved it - Grisha not so much. I thought the magic is not so important for the storyline of Six of Crows.
@@ammalyrical5646 I disagree. Speaking from a plot perspective, perhaps this opinion has merit; however, the SoC duology is clearly very character-orientated more than anything else, and several character arcs and relationships were nowhere near done by the end of SoC. The length of Crooked Kingdom was extremely necessary in order to further flesh out the complex personalities and dynamics between the crew. Any shorter and the character development would have felt rushed.
There's about one character I can think of from the First Law trilogy who the readers are made to know is lesbian. She is quite literally forced into secrecy based on the the medieval standards of her era and all of her behavior makes sense according to that fact. The book doesn't center on her relationship with her girlfriend either but you are supposed to feel bad because of what happens to her at the end.
Not sure what people were expecting when she is not supposed to be the focal point of the story?
Some of the people can find some ridiculous hidden patterns and problems in places there are none. I guess that's just their specific way of doing things.
@@ubesep "The LGBT people"? You realize that is A LOT of people you just generalized?
The Wheel of Time being overrated REALLY hurts my heart... I mean... Jordan always did get into too much detail with his world and scene building, but it's a quirk I grew to love since it helped paint ridiculously detailed images in my mind, lmao. To each their own, I suppose.
I'm trying to force myself through it again... it was one of the first fantasy series I read and I remembered the middle books being a slog but I didn't realize how bad the first books are....I've worn out 3 pairs of shoes reading the first two books. We traveled here, we traveled there, we traveled everywhere and we spent FOREVER doing it.... ffs tell me the story already!!!! I guess when I hadn't read anything good before I considered it to be OK. But now... I'm not sure I can struggle through this for another 12 books.
Audiobook is mandatory for me on this series. I tried reading it several times and just couldn't get into it. Audiobooked it and really enjoyed the series.
Rj is the best
Whenever someone asks me about the Wheel of Time series I always refer to it as "The Greatest Series I Can Never Recommend" The early books are amazing and by the time the series gets it's middle books bloat you're already so sucked in that you have to see it through. The end disappointed me because it was clear that Jordan expected to have a whole other series so there were major arcs and plotlines that never got resolved... I still love the series, the characters and the world, but I cannot recommend for someone to go down that rabbit hole.
I love all that detail!
I'm so glad I read A Song of Ice and Fire many years before the tv series came out - It was pretty special in my opinion - such a variety of well portrayed and interesting characters, story lines and cultures. And I didnt watch the series until I'd read all of the available books so there was no interference. For me the series isnt complete - and that's ok actually.
My only complaint with Martin's writing is it seems he literally has to describe everything that everyone eats. All the time. In excruciating detail. He talks more about food than he does some pivotal characters lol. His obsession with food makes me roll my eyes rather than engages me. Other than that, great books.
The series did well up to season 4. Then it just started going off the rails into the mind-boggling bad train wreck that it became.
@@AceMoonshot The descriptions of food make me hungry.
That comment about Hero of Ages... I have to strongly disagree with hahahaha!
Also, maybe this is not what that person meant, but I do not think that being LGBT should mean you have a shield in the character where they can only be good and whatnot...
We're all flawed humans, and the characters in First Law are incredibly flawed.
Yeah, I disagree too 😆 Haha, and I haven’t read the other two yet, so I can’t comment, but I agree with your sentiment!
I’m almost 200 pages into Hero of Ages and it’s awesome
I actually felt the exact same way as that person and I was pleasantly surprised to see someone else felt that way! I do love Mistborn overall though, but Well of Ascension is the best imo and Hero of Ages was the worst.
I read all first law trilogy in one go and these books left a very distasteful and depressing aftertaste. Close to the end I started to hate pretty much everyone. Stopped reading for over a month after that. Highly recommend. 10/10. ^_^
I felt the same about Hero of Ages. For me it is the only Sanderson book to date I haven't fully enjoyed. And I've read everything from him except mistborn second era and Alcatraz books.
You should also do one on "Underrated" books! Great video.
Yeah then she can put the Game of Thrones books in that list.
@@joshrivers5191 Huh? lol
@@Nemoticon the game of thrones books are underrated in my opinion. This chick has never read them and put them on this list.
@@joshrivers5191 How can they be underrated when they are international best sellers?????????????????????? Printed and sold in multiple languages by the millions, 25 million copies to be more precise!!! Do you even know what the term means? And if you really did respect that particular series, you'd refer to them by their proper labal, being the Song of Ice and Fire series. Have you even read them yourself? Because if you haven't, you are going to be undone very quickly.
@@Nemoticon uh yeah I've read them. How would I know if they're underrated otherwise? I'm not like the girl who made this video who put them on a list of overrated books despite having never read them.
Any book with a decent publisher makes NY Times Best Seller. All you gotta do is sale a lot of books for 1 week.
I don't know anybody in real life who has read them but everyone has seen the show. They aren't as popular as I think they should be and they aren't overrated by any means. They're popularity is well deserved.
Go ahead and undo me lol. Whatever that means?
You can read "Knight of the seven kingdoms" the three novellas collection of tales of Dunk and Egg to get the taste of Gorge R.R. Martin's writing. I found the stories nice and easy to get without too much Game of Thrones stuff. Then you will finally have some idea about his writing.
Yes on part 2
Umair Asif and if you’ve watched the show once you get past A Game of Thrones it gets MUCH easier to read.
Idk i didn't read the first grisha trilogy and i absolutely loved the six of crows duology. It did bug me and i wasn't that interested at first, but it kind of made sense as I went along.
enescu stef agree! I just rolled with it. Not everything needs to explained. At bottom, magic is magic!
Same, at first i didn't finish reading SoC because the second chapter made me confused of why Joost is just used as an character introduction and not actually a relevant character to the story. that made me dissapointed. but when i tried to read it again i started to get attached to the story and the characters especially to Inej. and I'm currently reading the second book now, btw.
I 've known people who have read The First Law and didn't quite like enjoy it but none of them would dare say that Joe's a terrible writer. The man is excellent at dialogues. Easily one of the best right now. Which is why I find it a little weird for someone who has read an entire trilogy of this grim dark fantasy to come up with offensive LGBT depictions as the biggest concern.
Sounds like a typical snowflake looking for attention to me. Who are they to judge Shev's sexuality?
I have to agree. It’s been a bit since I read the first trilogy so I’m possibly forgetting some scenes or dialogue, but claiming offensive LGBT depictions are one of the main issues with the books feels like it’s totally out of left field. 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah I’d be more concerned with the rampant misogyny and terribly written female characters, those issues are much more prevalent.
I agree with the person who talked about The Priory of the Orange Tree. I thought it was overwritten, light on plot for the first 500 pages, and had side quests that had little to do with the main plot. I could have put it down 200 pages from the end and not wondered what happened. I was just stubborn enough to finish it.
At a point I was almost in tears when I saw I still had 300 pages left 💀
Thank God 'Lord of the Rings' was not there.
You should read Game of Thrones. I read the first three books before the tv show came out so I was stoked for the show when it came out. I think the books are *a lot* better, but glad the show gave it exposure and it was a good adaptation (before they had to make stuff up).
Reading GoT is pretty pointless seeing that it won't get an ending lol
The Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind. Bad one dimensional characters and plot dead ends that take up almost entire books. So many encounters just blew my suspension of disbelief out of the water.
I read the whole series and it starts off well but goes far down hill. The last 3 books are almost unreadable.
I read it a long time ago, and it was one of the first fantasy novels I finished.... At the time I liked Wizards First Rule. But even at that point, I thought the next book was junk (and I never read beyond it). I tried to read it again a couple years ago, and couldn't get through two chapters. For a guy who thinks so highly of himself, Goodkind is not a good writer.
Douglas Dea I agree. Couldnt finish the series
By blowing your suspension of disbelief out of the water, are you talking about the chicken that isn't a chicken, the woman that was identified as evil because of her lack of nipples, the time Kahlan got naked and painted herself white and rode past the army to distract them, the part where they literally lick toads to enter the spirit world, or the time Richard carves a block of marble into a statue using a sword to teach the power of capitalisim and goes on a 10+ page diatribe ripped straight from Atlas Shrugged?
I loved SoT when I was 14. Tried to reread as an adult this year and made it about 10 chapters. Between the instalove and one of the worst Gary Stu MCs I've seen, it really really fails to hold up.
All Sarah J Maas books have never ever lived up to the hype. All her characters are the same, the magic system is boring
plus messy, lazy world building... (imo.)
@@Vickynger Yes agreed!
The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho. A great fable for the first half, the second half gets a bit too preachy for my taste.
You should finish Fifth Season, the payoff is worth it
I’ve heard that...I just can’t stand second person. It drives me crazy 😱😱😱
I agree and I hate 2nd person but it's actually a good book
I’m only halfway through book 2, but I sense there is a reason for the second person. Either way, I’ve gotten used to it.
@@ebnovels It only has sections written in second person, and when you figure out whose perspective it is, it's a very nice pay off. Most of the book, and series, is in third person. It's honestly one of the top 5 "new" trilogies I've read over the past five years. But admittedly, the first few chapters do require a lot of patience.
@@Rendref 100%, it really goes downhill after book 1
I personally really enjoyed "The Priory of the Orange Tree". The beginning was a bit hard to get into, but the rest was nearly fantastic. I didn't find it boring at all, I actually thought there was a ton happening.
You should definitely read it in my opinion.
Completely agree I loved it
One of my all time favourites is The Fionavar Tapestry by Guy Gavriel Kay. Guy Kay is the legend who helped Christopher Tolkien assemble The Silmarillion and the Fionavar Tapestry is stunning. Criminally underated.
His Sarantine Mosaic duology and Lions of al-Rassan stand-alone are also incredible.
GGK is in a weird place where he's beloved by the people who've read him, but almost nobody has it seems. Certainly few of those who have care to talk about it.
Please don't let her say Earthsea, please don't let her say Earthsea
I can see where hero of ages comes from. It was probably my favorite of the 3 because of how it came all together with all the reveals. But if I had to reread I probably wouldn't enjoy the first half as much. The final empire would be my favorite reread of the 3. Does this make sense >_
Luca Leone yes it does final Empire was such a good start
I think knowing how it all comes together upon reread just fills the reader with a mix of awe and dread 😆
How is the Sword of Truth series not on this list!?
Maybe cuz its not an unpopular opinion anymore at this point?
For me I found Mistborn over hyped, was not bad but I really struggled in the last book. Also Night Angel by Brent Weeks, good but not great.
God I feel the same way about Way of King
I've read mistborn series but not stormlight yet. Loved mistborn but didn't think it was as good as the Game of Thrones books. Maybe stormlight will change my mind.
I think soft magic systems are better than hard magic systems though I did enjoy what Sanderson did with the mistborn magic.
3rd book was actually my favorite haha.
The second book for me really drags. The third book did a little as well. But the first one (The Final Empire) is exceptional. Overall I loved how it ended though.
Anything by Sanderson. I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I think his dialogue is sometimes cringeworthy and his prose is terrible. I like his magic systems and worldbuilding, but overall his books are average at best. Again, just my opinion.
I completely agree with you. I know a lot of people really like Sanderson, but I have read two of his books and I didn't really like either of them so I have given up. Hahaha. His books are just not for me.
I’m obviously on the other side of the fence 💁🏻♀️
Yeah, I really disliked that he was chosen to finish the wheel of time. Always thought his stuff reads like fan-fiction.
I have to say that of all Sanderson's books, I enjoyed them all, that I was the least impressed by mistborn. Interesting concept and all, bad guy wins builds evil empire, but if I'm being honest it felt like most of the book was just a description of the magic being used.
I know it's not a popular topic online, but what did you think of the sword of truth series? Terry Goodkind. I know he lost it at the end, but I did like the story of the first few books. Why does erfgrond hate his writing? (we understand why we hate him, though)
And also, David Eddings? Belgariad.
These are two series of novels I've always returned to... Have I just not found better book series that appeal to me?
so lucky that no lotr shaming was in here
i kinda hate myself for it but startet this vid like :
imma smack the hell of the one that criticises my lord
Sparlio, the first book is boring. Didn’t bother finishing it either. It’s just too slow.
Indeed. It was exactly what I expected. Glad that I was wrong.
I won't shame it but I REALLY don't get why so many say it's the end-all-be-all of Fantasy
Agreed, Tolkien is top tier. Personally, I don't think too many fantasy books come close in terms of literary merit--theres something to be said about the sophistication of his prose, well-developed poetry, and close attention to linguistic complexity that's unfortunately lacking in much of modern fantasy imo
@@jacob5029 thats probably because Tolkien decided to publish the whole series as a single book (which he did). It was later broken down cuz it was too big
First law trilogy is brilliantly written. Might not be for you but badly written??!?? What on earth do you read to dare to say that...?!
I thought it was actually quite badly written. At least, the first book was for sure. It's been years since I've read it, but it drove me away from fantasy for about a year. Not only did I not like the first book, I thought it was badly written in certain parts. No, I can't give any examples and I know I should. I'd have to dig my copy out from storage and go through it. Maybe the other two books moved the trilogy in a good direction, but the first book was one of the worst fantasy novels I've read.
I agree with @meepsel. You may not like the book but I don't see how you could knock the writing. Also I don't remember anything in this book that portrayed LGBTQ in anyway, maybe I forgot
@@jbcox85 It has one lesbian character, Queen Terez. Honesty there is nothing wrong with how she is depicted but there is a scene where Glokta figures out that she is a lesbian and that is why she will not sleep with her husband King Jezal and he threatens to have her mistress gang-raped if she doesn't produce 4 heirs (he also has her arrested as insurance). Which is another example of how brutal Glokta is but we already knew that but I don't think it is a bad depiction of her
I love The First Law trilogy (tbh, 2/3 still need to read the last one). The plotting and pacing is outta the park.
@@slowerpicker I personally think the 3rd one is the best. The character twists are amazing
I just finished Broken Earth trilogy (the Fifth season) and I too felt quite uncomfortable reading in second person. But I strongly suggest pushing through, because the story that get's told through the books is beautiful, though provoking and by the second book I was toatly into it.
I bought the entire series for a long stay in the hospital. There I was... trapped with three books I couldn't get thru. I know it's me, but I found Broken Earth unreadable.
@@lexwaldez I've just dnf'd fifth season a little over half way. Googled the plot summary and I'm really not missing anything. We don't even get the resolutions I wanted in this book
No book is for everyone, and likewise no book is for no-one. We can just be mature about it and respect an opinion 👍
Currently reading The Magicians by Grossman.. holy smokes what a dumpster fire 😂
Had to get that off my chest.
Dark Tower is weird in many ways - only devout King readers might glean the meaning out of it.. and even many of them might hate it. I liked it . But I'm weird.
Martin is definitely overrated, but then I feel the same way about Sanderson - comparing the two doesn't add much.
Harry Potter was a beloved book read by many impressionable youths who are now active on platforms like this, and has been overhyped for so long - along with the movies. I never got the hype, but if people love it, let them. I do think it got a lot more people into reading fantasy, and that's always a win in my book.
Rob Paul -I agree. Sanderson’s writing is juvenile.
Throne of Glass series is definitely overhyped, it’s not awful though. The books do get much better as the series goes along, I admit I struggled with the first book because I found quite a few elements frustrating and also forced to move the plot along. Glad I stuck with it though, it’s fun but not the masterpiece the hype says.
Nah it gets worse after Heir of Fire. Literally all the male characters are the same (disgusting, possessive, creepy, territorial) person copy and pasted. And the female characters barely have differences. And Aelin and Rowan are completely insufferable. None of the romances have any chemistry. And for a series that supposedly features a global empire, it's ridiculously white. At least that's how it was in Empire of Storms, which is where I decided to DNF the series.
Throne of Glass was passable.
The Assassin's Blade was fun.
Crown of Midnight was excellent.
Heir of Fire was good.
Queen of Shadows it was easy to ignore the problems piling up.
Empire of Storms was the straw that broke the camel's back.
I wanted to keep reading because the plot was interesting and I wanted to see how it would resolve, but I just don't care about any of the characters.
Harry Potter for sure. I understand that many people love the series, but I don't understand the extent of the hype. It often gets put on a pedestal. I have no idea why.
Edit: Eragon. My wife loves those books, but I have no idea why. I didn't even make it halfway through the first one. It was so boring and generic.
Year: 2031, "Well guys i can finally say what I think about Winds of Winter" but ill wait till the rest is out
lol
I thought people hated Sanderson? I can't keep up with popular hate. Like what you like, fuck what others think.
this is why im reading grisha triology before six of crows. the world building is so immense in this series i cant imagine her repeating everything in six of crows which is why im surprised people say you dont HAVE to read it before. Plus, its not a terrible story or characters.
As a resident Tower junkie, I'm surprised to find it in here. Maybe it's the internal "language" of the books, the concepts like khef, ka, and ka-tet that annoy the person who posted that, but that was one of the biggest draws for me! I've gotten a friend who hasn't even touched the books to understand these concepts, because it basically amounts to the "found family" trope, and the "blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb" ideal. Am I alone in that? Is it really that annoying?
Sadly the HP one. I feel like i can't even bring myself to enjoy it because its so overhyped and maybe it's just in my personal experience but most of the time the people that overhype it are the ones that only saw the movies and didn't read the book. *waiting for the hate comments 😣*
No u r fine
I read it once aka my teacher forced the entire class to read it
I tried to re-read
Trudged through 1st book put down 2nd halfway through
I won the whole series from a raffle ticket event from my old school years ago. Was surprised and excited at the time. After stopping at book five, I had to give it away. My interest in the books had dropped. I'll still watch the movies but I couldn't finish the books.
I like the books much more than the movies, but yeah, it is over-hyped. I have been an avid reader for 40 years and as much as I enjoy the books - there is little in them that is original. The best thing she did was merging the magic and non-magic world in current day. That worked pretty well, generally. And I still tend to reread the series once a year. 😎
HP did more for me when I was 13 than when I was 30, but I still think it's pretty decent as far as books go.
Hmm... Overhyped... Ah. Here's a good one: Red Rising is a paper thin allegory, it's offensive how bad the female characters are written, and the main character is so stupid he falls for the exact same trick twice in the same chapter.
Anyway who is thinking of picking up Circe I highly recommend the audiobook!! The narrator has a beautiful voice and does a great job. Completely changes the experience.
Kelly Ribellia thanks
I don't care for the lord of the rings books. I've tried reading them 3 times and can't get thru them. Maybe seeing the movies first ruined it for me...
I honestly feel Andrzej Sapkowski is still underrated
OMG yes. I've started Part 2 of Last Wish and so far I'm liking it even better than Martin of Jordan. Most people know him only for the games but I'm hoping with the launch of the Netflix series more people will be drawn to the books.
Diarrhea Sharts his books are top 10(#1 included) on Amazon this week so that’s a good sign
Most overrated fantasy series by far...
@@mikaelhauk good joke buddy
@@ayayay9587 No, really. I like the short stories well enough, but the main series is shit.
Unpopular opinion: I liked Six of Crows but didn’t LOVE it like everyone else did, it was just okay. I think sadly Leigh Bardugo just isn’t the author for me
Omg someone else thinks that Priory of the Orange Tree was boring! I'm not alone!
She said she's waiting for GRRM to finish GoT before she starts reading the series? Ummm...
The blasphemous comment about First Law Trilogy got under my skin. Great series.
1 The wheel of time
2 The wheel of time
3 Anything by NK Jemisin
4 Wise Man's Fear
5 First mistborn trilogy
6 Dark Shade of magic
7 children of meh and meh (Did not finish that trash)
8 Oatbringer
100 The wheel of time
Did i mention the wheel of time
The Poppy War has to be the most overrated fantasy book in recent memory.
Surprised Terry Goodkind "Wizard's First Rule" isn't on here.
something has to by hyped first
@@Adamdidit It was hyped, over a decade ago. After all they did make a even worse tv series based on the books.
@@floodedcarb7028 i rwd the damn thing almost 20 years ago and I don't remember it being all that hyped then either.
@@Adamdidit Ok.... Just because you're unaware or don't remember any hype of a book you read. Doesn't mean there never was any.
@@floodedcarb7028 You're right obviously. I'm just totally flaberagasted that it ever existed. Did they read it?
I probably shouldn't comment on The Blade Itself (since I'm only 1/4 of the way in). But wow, this is tough going. The dialogue is generally just bad-if one more character says "Argh..." I'm going to have to put the book down for a bit. The descriptions are odd, or sometimes completely contradicting-even within the same paragraph.
I'm hopeful that it improves, but that's mainly because I got the First Law trilogy at a really good price. Otherwise, I probably would have given up. The Logen chapters are approaching terrible.
Does it get better...ever?
The Song of Fire and Ice(Game of Thrones) is EPIC!
Books 4 & 5 are kinda annoying, though.
clauricaune brave of you to speak the truth
@@clauricaune yup
@@clauricaune as is the fact that the bastard is so in love with being a famous TV producer now that he's never going to bother finishing the series. He could have been remembered for decades and decades for writing an all-time great fiction series.. instead he'll be remembered for a few years for having made a cool HBO show.
@@clauricaune Book 4 is my least favourite but book 5 is decent.
A Song of Ice and Fire isn't for everyone. It's long, dark, brutal, and at times there are too many characters and plots going on at once (some of them are even boring). But to say Sanderson is a better writer than GRR Martin is an atrocity.
I'm at book nine of WoT, and my feelings are a bit mixed. There's some characters I LOVE, some that's a bit meh, and others again that I absolutely hate (and not in a love-to-hate way). The cringy love quadrangle should also have been cut completely...
Hahaha, you mean you’re not a fan of someone having three wives?!? 🤣
@@ebnovels No thanks, that just greedy... I'm good with my one LOL.
Totally agree with the cringy comment. Maybe it's wish fulfillment by author, but more likely product of his time (Conan from 1980's, WOT from 1990's) which I believe makes his writing feel dated and not in a good way.
@@ebnovels Not really, but I didn't like the way it was handled with Rand. His entire relationship and "marriage" with Aviendha and (especially) Elayne feels forced and awkward. I think it would have worked much better with Min as main love interest, and Aviendha and Elayne as something more short term.
While at times the 4-way relationship thing seems a bit awkward in the books, Robert Jordan was actually extremely ahead of his time in terms of theme. Polyamory is only now beginning to experience mainstream acceptance and legitimacy. Rand isn’t some brainwashing polygamist forcing young girls into marriage. Each of the four are consenting adults who honestly love each other and, while not explicitly stated, it can be reasonably inferred that Elayne and Avienda are to some extent sexually involved. There’s absolutely nothing ‘cringy’ about a group of consenting adults wanting to enter a sexual and loving relationship together. WoT woke AF
@@kristianwatt7966 I didn't express myself clearly... I didn't mean that Rand forced Elayne and Aviendha into anything, but that their undying love for him doesn't have enough of a foundation for me to believe in it. Elayne hardly spent any time at all with him before he left Tear, and Aviendha seemed quite adamant that she wanted to end it after their one-night-stand in Seanchan. I can believe in both as teenage flings, but not much more. Min is the only one I think really works with Rand because they actually spent a decent amount of time together, and worked together as partners and friends.
I couldn't finish Lies of Locklemora, just couldn't get into it! I'm kinda curious that you said in this video you didn't find Name of the Wind that great but yet you put it in your top Adult Fantasy books! What's up w that? Oh and just wondering what are those books lined up on your bottom shelf to care right? A whole bunch, is that anime? Thx
It’s not top fantasy, it’s just popular fantasy :) And I think you’re referring to Vagabond.
@@ebnovels Gotcha, your right sorry about that. What's Vagabond about? Is that anime or regular book?
A few series that I think are overhyped:
Harry Potter. Fun series, definitely enjoyed them, so many plot holes and deus ex machina. Not the absolute best thing ever.
Sword of Truth. In my honest opinion, these books got worse and worse as it went on. And the first book was pretty crap.
Song of Ice and Fire. First book was awesome. Downhill from there. It took me a year to get through the five books that are out. Dragged so much. And let's mention that the tv show came out after book 5, completed eight seasons, and book 6 is still not out.
You prefered the first book to a storm of swords? I've almost never heard of that.
Honestly, Lord of the Rings has such a slow and meandering pace. I love the films, and I’m really impressed with the world building, but good god man, get on with it.
You should def do a part 2!
Nevernight was completely overrated. I DNF'd. I was bored the entire time.
Haha, I’m not hating it! 😆
@@ebnovels HAHA
The original Mistborn trilogy, I don't understand why everyone is so over the moon about this series, the characters are often frustrating and each book is more of a slog than the previous one. Another one is Malazan Book of the Fallen. It started ok, had some great books in the middle, then by the end it left me feeling completely robbed, I can't talk about that series without becoming physically upset.
yeah Malazan was a massive disappointment: it was so universally praised and recommended, that I figured it HAD to be at least decent. So I just went ahead and bought all 10 books.. only to discover that no, it was just terrible: boring 1-dimensional characters, no overarching story, no planning, just book after book of pointless meandering garbage.
@@enaidealukal9203 "...no overarching story, no planning, just book after book of pointless meandering ..."
I will be the first to admit that Malazan Book of the Fallen isn't for everyone, but I can assure you it has an overarching story and meticulous planning. Unfortunately, you won't understand where the story is going until half-way through book 10. Not kidding...not even a little.
@@frutrace call me crazy, but if you can't discern any overarching plot, planning, or coherence until 9 1/2 books into a 10 book series, that's... problematic, to put it mildly. Certainly disqualifies it from being considered quality fiction, in my book- but to each their own and all, I suppose.
I do agree with the Wheel of Time, haha. It's just that at some point the characters start moving from one place to another and the story never moves forward until Sanderson comes in to finish it.
The Wheel of Time never moves forward until Sanderson comes in to finish the series? That's pretty harsh. I agree that parts of the books could've been shortened but implying that Robert Jordan never truly progressed the story & that it only got good once Sanderson took over is a serious disservice to Mr Jordan & his magnum opus.
@@DragonHeart613 First: I don't say it never got good before Sanderson. It was very good in the first books. Second: I don't have any reason to service Jordan. He had good and bad things, like most writers.
I tried to read Shannara, but quickly found that I didn't care, at all, about anything that was happening, and I gave up on it.
I agree with some of these, Name of the wind was so disappointing. Hero of Ages was actually my favorite of the mistborn series and I LOVED The Fifth season. I do get why some people didn’t like The Fifth season at first it was hard to get into the writing style but once I got used to it it was really good. Very unique plot, world and characters, o thought it was outstanding. I also really liked The Priory of the orange tree, a few places were slow but overall I thought it was a fun read.
I also loved Fifth Season. But I get why some people don’t. If you are the type of reader who has to understand everything that is going on all the time, you will have a hard time with this. I also don’t mind second person perspective if used right, and I feel this made sense here.
If you think First Law is badly written you must be reading masterpieces with godly prose.
I tried reading Wheel of Time and gave up at chapter 1. I felt like I ran a damn marathon trying to get throught.
Chatper 1 or the prologue? I do agree that the prologue of book 1 is diffilcult to get through at first. I actually skipped it on my first read through but now that i've read the rest I appreciate t much more.
@@KattPowers No, that's Brian Sanderson.
@@KattPowers Whatever his name is.
Calling First Law poorly written seems kind of absurd to me - you don't have to like it, you can even detest it, but it's just not poorly written by any stretch of the imagination.
Regarding First Law Trilogy: each book is better than the one before, and the standalones are masterpieces.
And the new series is even better :D
Wheel of time - 500 main characters, 1000 sub plots and .....zzzzzz snooze.
I never read the Grisha trilogy before Six of Crows, and I was never confused. I love the SoC duology so much. I’m trying to get into the Grisha trilogy, I don’t know what’s holding me back though, I’ve really liked what I’ve read of Shadow and Bone.
Interesting, I have read Name of the Wind and Wise Man's Fear about 3 times. Want to read it again when I have time. I wonder what people look for in a good book. Part of its beauty for me is in the little things that you pick up on your 2nd or 3rd read. For example 7 words that make a woman fall in love with you.. and on additional reads you see all the times Kvothe employed that. It's like a little Easter Egg, and there are many many more you find upon a close read. You should've spent more time blasting Dark Tower though. That was absolutely horrendous for most of it.
Wheel of Time series. 14 books long, 7 of those could be condensed down to just skirt smoothing and braid tugging.
GRRM is 1000x better than Sanderson, that's total fucking bullshit lol. Sanderson is ok, but I don't get all the hype with him. I'd put him here
I tried reading lot of the rings in HS and that shit was SO BORING I got to the part where they met beorne and quit it. Since then I've found that Silmarillion is more my style. Lore and Mythos style writing is definitely my favorite out of all others
Going to be upfront: I kind of hated Name of the Wind. Only book I've ever tossed across the room.
You didn't comment on The Dark Tower at all! Does it not hit your radar?
I don’t really have an interest in King’s books 😬
@@ebnovels fair enough.
anyone who doesn't, at a minimum, read The Drawing of the Three is really doing themselves a disservice :)
and i'm not even a fan of 90% of SK's books!
I think once enough people say that something is ‘overrated’ it’s not really ‘overrated’ anymore.
Example: throne of glass. Literally everyone says that book is overhyped but the ratio of people on booktube who didn’t like that book to people that did is like 10:1.
Hahaha, I agree 😆
Not liking a book because it may offend less than 1% of a population that reads it in only a sentence or two is not a very logical reason to dislike a book. I just read the First Law Trilogy over the summer and cannot for the life of me remember a main character that was offensive towards the LGBTQ community. Maybe there was, but, so what? Same dif with ytuber Daniel Greene, I stopped watching his vids for same reasons. Complaining that the one gay character in Name of the Wind was a rapist, was offensive towards gays. When did our race become such pansy flowers? Can't write a fictional novel without offending someone, or forcing your creative story to be pigeon holed to appease some minority to not being offended. Good bye art, hello accepted art.
Song of Ice and fire is fantastic. Slightly fell off at A Feast but still great story
Feast is the best mate, reread them all again and youll enjoy it more than the others, and Dance is incredible too. Storm is faster paced and maybe more surprising but 4 and 5 are incredible
It really is, and it makes me very sad that it likely will never be finished. It was also uniquely equipped for the sort of broad popular appeal the TV version achieved: all these streaming services trying to find "the next Game of Thrones" are destined to fail, because it was the story and the characters peculiar to ASOIAF that made it so appealing to non-fantasy fans (all the moral ambiguous characters, political intricacies and schemes and betrayals... and of course, the unexpected character deaths, oh those character deaths). As great as e.g. the Wheel of Time or the Witcher are, they do not have those elements.
@@JLchevz These two are better on re-read, but they still have terrible pacing, a lot of wasted time coupled with cliffhanger, which don't work so well when years separate one book from the other. Not to mention a lot of rushed new characters that simply don't have the time to be so interesting (Arianne, Areo, Victarion, and others).
@@legrandliseurtri7495 yeah youre right
Id give GOT series a read . Half the books you mention pretty much base themselves on it and it's becoming increasingly unlikely that the series is going to be completed. Joe Abercrombie has now written 7 books within the world of the First Law series, they are all great. And there is a huge hole in your fantasy reviews - where is Anthony Ryan? The Raven Shadow and Draconis Memoria series' are absolutely epic and very well written. Ok thats about 5 million words worth of suggestions, hope you havent got any plans for the future:) I listen to them all on audiobooks in traffic jams. GOT helped me through many mega traffic jams on the M62 ( UK motorway) - Enjoyed your vids
I've read the released Stormlight and ASoIaF novels and comparing the two would broadly say Martin is the better writer. I love Stormlight and Sanderson, but his books just seem a touch more shallow (not necessarily in world building, but in plot and backstory) and less mature compared to Martin's. That said, I have much greater respect for how Sanderson is continuously working on his books and I hope that the recent news of him working on a TV series doesn't begin turning him into George "every book takes at least a year longer to write" Martin.
GoT books are far better than the cluster **c* that is the show.
Among the best character driven narratives I have read... do not wait read the 5 books and join the fans breathing down georges back to finish it before hes 120 years old.
How is RA Salvatore not on this list? Don't get me wrong, I love the Drizzt novels but going back and rereading them 20 years after middle school is a bit rough.
The name of the wind it's soooo boring and Kvothe is super annoying. I wasn't gonna read The wise man's fear but the final pages were actually interesting. I would not read again the first book
I love A game of thrones but it's definitely not for everyone. You can get confused with the huge cast. And if you don't like details than it can get boring for you. I personally enjoyed everything about it. Some also don't like how he describes violence detailed and how he does not describe every single tree.
His writing style is hard to get through for some people but I think it is great because I was able to read it fluently.
While Tolkien (adore his work) describes the world, martin tells us more about the characters and creates a huge character development. Also their is no character who is good or bad. everyone has flaws and strength and acts realistically. In the first book there are 8 povs and for me everyone was very interesting and I love them all (even though Sansa is spoiled but she is supposed to be annoying 😂)
Also the turns are so unpredictable and they get more unpredictable from book to book. That is what I love.
but the best thing is to set your expectations pretty low because it isn't really happening that much in the first half of the book but it is the most important part and you really have to be concentrated or you'll miss important information.
And don't worry that much about those many characters. There is a glossar where the history and characters get explained shortly. It helps me a lot
Thanks for reading this huge comment😂☺xx
My biggest issue with "Throne of Glass" wasn't that it had romance... It was that it had a protagonist who was supposed to be the ultimate bad@$$ assassin, and instead ran around behaving like a spoiled, clothes-obsessed teeny-bopper. Seriously. Other than annoying readers to death, I had a hard time imagining her being a legitimate threat to anyone. LOL! However, I have to say the Maas' other series, Court of Thorns and Roses, was immensely better. The plot was far less flat, the protagonist wasn't useless, and the series was actually an enjoyable light read.
George RR martin is undoubtedly one of the greatest narrative writers of *any* genre, let alone fantasy. It is near unrivaled.
I agree. Im in the middle of Feast of Crows. I haven't been able to stop. Some of the best fantasy books I've ever read.
I love the lord of the rings but in all honesty ASOIAF has been way more entertaining to me.
When's that mofo gonna get done with Winds of Winter? I don't look forward to finishing Dance of Dragons.
@@joshrivers5191 I've commented on the issue with mister Tolkien many times on other comments. It seems as though people are too awed and starstruck to give any actual critique of his writing. Tolkien was a linguist and a poet. *Not* a writer. He did not necessarily count himself as such and wrote initially for children but lord of the rings quote 'grew in the telling'. And oh lord did it do that. There are SO many issues with the structure and overall writing of Tolkien, concerning any literary merit. However he is a brilliant AUTHOR, because he created a world and all of that, which is absolutely stunning and game changing for the fantasy genre.
Being a writer and being an author are different things, and people just pan it down to 'its just his writing style'.
No, this 'writing style' would be called poor skill in prose and narrative and structure. So there's a rant lmao no hate for Tolkien his universe is amazing but his WRITING compared to George is just leagues from eachother.
Glad you are enjoying a feast for crows, it gets a lot of shit compared to the rest
George has said he is currently putting every other project aside so he can finish winds of winter.
But we never really know with him.
@@lanadelrey1617 I like feast more than any so far. Maybe cuz it's completely diverged from the show.
I'm hoping for next year for Winds but I imagine it will 2021 or 22. And then hopefully he lives to a ripe old age cuz he'll be over 100 by the time he finishes Dream of Spring at this rate.
@@joshrivers5191 The question about a dream of spring is entirely dependant on where winds of winter ends. We know roughly what happens in the broad- stroke-mess that is the show but we don't know where winds of winter ends in the seasons and where a dream of spring starts.
So that book could possible be much sooner than winds of winter was in comparison to a dance with dragons. If I doesn't outlive the books then maybe some other author could finish it with his wishes like that of Robert Jordan and Sandersen, however unsatisfying that would be.
but he is suck at prose.
what turned me off of asoiaf is the writing. it's mediocore at best. typical contemporer writer.
What makes lotr great is the writing. you might come up with better story, but if your writing sucks no one would really cared for your books.
i always say, that tolkien's writing is the kind writing that would please even the likes of gods.
example :
“And far away, as Frodo put on the Ring and claimed it for his own, even in Sammath Naur the very heart of his realm, the Power in Barad-dûr was shaken, and the Tower trembled from its foundations to its proud and bitter crown. The Dark Lord was suddenly aware of him, and his Eye piercing all shadows looked across the plain to the door that he had made; and the magnitude of his own folly was revealed to him in a blinding flash, and all the devices of his enemies were at last laid bare. Then his wrath blazed in consuming flame, but his fear rose like a vast black smoke to choke him. For he knew his deadly peril and the thread upon which his doom now hung.
From all his policies and webs of fear and treachery, from all his stratagems and wars his mind shook free; and throughout his realm a tremor ran, his slaves quailed, and his armies halted, and his captains suddenly steerless, bereft of will, wavered and despaired. For they were forgotten. The whole mind and purpose of the Power that wielded them was now bent with overwhelming force upon the Mountain. At his summons, wheeling with a rending cry, in a last desperate race there flew, faster than the winds, the Nazgûl, the Ringwraiths, and with a storm of wings they hurtled southwards to Mount Doom.”
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“His thought turned to the Ring, but there was no comfort there, only dread and danger. No sooner had he come in sight of Mount Doom, burning far away, than he was aware of a change in his burden. As it drew near the great furnaces where, in the deeps of time, it had been shaped and forged, the Ring's power grew, and it became more fell, untameable except by some mighty will. As Sam stood there, even though the Ring was not on him but hanging by its chain about his neck, he felt himself enlarged, as if he were robed in a huge distorted shadow of himself, a vast and ominous threat halted upon the walls of Mordor. He felt that he had from now on only two choices: to forbear the Ring, though it would torment him; or to claim it, and challenge the Power that sat in its dark hold beyond the valley of shadows. Already the Ring tempted him, gnawing at his will and reason. Wild fantasies arose in his mind; and he saw Samwise the Strong, Hero of the Age, striding with a flaming sword across the darkened land, and armies flocking to his call as he marched to the overthrow of Barad-dur. And then all the clouds rolled away, and the white sun shone, and at his command the vale of Gorgoroth became a garden of flowers and trees and brought forth fruit. He had only to put on the Ring and claim it for his own, and all this could be. In that hour of trial it was his love of his master that helped most to hold him firm; but also deep down in him lived still unconquered his plain hobbit-sense: he knew in the core of his heart that he was not large enough to bear such a burden, even if such visions were not a mere cheat to betray him. The one small garden of a free gardener was all his need and due, not a garden swollen to a realm; his own hands to use, not the hands of others to command. 'And anyway all these notions are only a trick, he said to himself.”
martin would never be able to write something like that. which is understandable. most writers won't
Omfg I’m a big Harry Potter but I definitely agree. I saw someone crying over something Laini Taylor tweeted about Slytherins and I just felt like, seriously? It’s a pretend school house from a children’s book. It’s not real, why does anyone care so much? It’s like people who get mad when you talk crap about scorpios or someone’s MBTI personality.
I have never read a Harry Potter book. I don't feel like I am missing much.
Um. You are.
You really aren't
@@NerdyDude186 The Harry Potter series is essentially modern day Dickens. Kids 150 years from now will still be reading the series. Whether you like it or not, they are equally as impactful as Lord of the Rings. Timeless.
damonke79 The series is not that good. You can say its good but idc it's my opinion. Also Lord of the Rings is the definition of age old trash. It's overhyped. I don't care for LotR. People only read that and say they read fantasy. It's idiotic. People praise it like it's the end all of fantasy. It's not it's the inspiration for a genre. That doesn't mean I have to like it. Harry Potter is pretty bad. I used to love that shit. Last 4 books i was at midnight releases and would talk ears off of everyone. Then I started reading good fantasy. I grew out of Harry Potter faster than a fat kid finishes a cake. It's not that great. I recently listened to the series. It was a pain in the ass to get through because I was bored listening to it. The dialogue is weak the story is bland and tired and its great... FOR CHILDREN. As an adult it's pretty bad.
@@NerdyDude186 I'm not saying it's the end all be all but I do think it's an amazing entryway for kids to get into the genre.
Like what you like but the impact of the Harry Potter series is undeniable at this point. Is there better? Of course. What I'm saying is that in terms of just pure influence and impact on the genre as a whole, the HP series is huge. You can't tell a story about the genre without Harry Potter getting a chapter, therefore, I think it's wrong to tell someone they aren't missing anything.
They are actually missing a lot.
Witcher, I do like the books but the writing is ok at points and that damn Yarugala river! I have PTSD from how often in the books they come into contact with that damn thing you'd think that was the only river in the whole world! The way the writer focuses on the women's anatomy when you are suppose to be in their POV is annoying as well and at points Geralt is obviously writer insert. That all being said there are things to enjoy about the books but these few were really not those elements for me.
ASOIAF, most definitely overrated for me. Couldn't even finish the first book, fell asleep reading it. Went back to the wheel of time and never looked back.
PS. She's gorgeous.
If you don't like it don't call it overrated I've read both and I select Asoiaf