This is a slightly modified re-upload of a video I made in January 2022. Due to (valid) complaints about the audio mix in that video, I've improved the audio in this new version and addressed a couple of visual elements that needed fixing. Otherwise, the content of this video is the same as the original's. A follow-up video that briefly reviews and tier ranks the author's novels can be found at ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html.
@@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886 Thank you! Based on comments such as yours, I’m thinking of recording some classic stories and uploading them here on my channel as audiobooks.
@@thelibraryladder I am genuinely surprised that you are not already a professional audio book narrator or Radio Jockey. You certainly have the voice for such things. Kudos and Good Fortune to your audio related ventures in the future!
Like many others here, this video popped up unexpectedly in my recommended videos and as a Kay fan since the early 90's I really enjoyed it but I'm subscribing because I see you have videos on Moorcock's Eternal Champion and Stephen Donaldson's Thomas Covenant as well. So many modern readers seem to think that the idea of a dark, conflicted, anti-hero was invented sometime in the mid-90's or early 2000's so it's great to see these two authors get some attention - especially Moorcock, who I think so many modern authors owe a huge debt to and yet he never gets mentioned in discussions of the best fantasy.
Thanks, Mark! I'm trying to focus many of my videos on the roots of modern genre fiction, highlighting pioneers (such as Moorcock and others) who established many of the conventions of a genre.
I read the Thomas Covenant chronicles when I was about 12 and loved it, I liked his style. I might have to look into Moorcock as well, two Author recommendations from one video, awesome.
This channel is awesome! The way you describe everything in precise detail is amazing. I never heard of Kay, and now I want to read all of his books. Thank you!
Thanks! If you haven't already seen it, I have a spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) that briefly reviews and tier ranks Kay's novels. It might help you decide where you'd like start with him.
I agree. Kay is very underrated. His stories are so emotionally charged. He is one of the very few authors that can make me cry. Tigana is a masterpiece.
GGK has been reliably in my top 5 fantasy authors and has never left it. Each and every one of his novels is a gem. Thank you for highlighting his career and writing style!
I only stumbled onto your channel yesterday, and had never of Guy Gavriel Kay before, but thanks to your soft-spoken and thorough advocacy of him, I picked up my first Kay novel today. I get the feeling that I'm about to step into something remarkable. The icing on the cake is that Simon Vance is probably my favorite audiobook narrator around.
Welcome aboard! I hope you enjoy GGK as much as I do. Vance is my favorite audiobook narrator as well. Either he has great taste in choosing book projects, or his performance skills can overcome even mediocre material, because I've never not enjoyed a book he narrated.
Well I'm sold. Thank you for this video. I knew of some of more famous books but now that you've explained properly how he writes, it seems like someone I'd very much enjoy reading.
Wonderful! I'm so glad you found it helpful. If you haven't already seen it, I have another video in which I briefly review and tier rank Kay's books. Cheers!
YES YES YES!!!! A MILLION TIMES YES!!!! I clicked on your video hoping this was who you were going to mention, because I feel the same way. I was actually recommended his works by sci-fi writer friend of mine and Kay has quickly become my favorite author. I have been reading his works since the early 1990s. I have never understood why he is not more recognized and has no movies made. I reread them all the time. Absolute favorite author of all time, even more than Tolkien! Historical fiction and Fantasy are my favorites and he marries the two beautifully in a way I’ve never seen before. Perfection in every book! I also read that he often will find a place with a similar landscape to the story he’s focused on to write or finish up his books. I also love how many of the books all kind of have a vague reference to his initial trilogy in the Gods they worship. That initial world binds them altogether in a beautiful multiverse. I’d never seen your channel, but you have an instant subscriber in me. Also, love your speaking voice. So soothing.
Thank you! It's been terrific discovering in recent weeks here in the comments how many readers share my (our) admiration of Kay's books, and how many who are new to him are willing to give him a try. I wanted to draw attention to him with this video and its companion tier ranking video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html), and I hope I've accomplished at least a little of that goal.
I started reading GGK after watching one of your videos. Read Tigana and loved it. Just finished up The Lions of Al-Rassan and it was one of the best experiences I’ve had with a book in thirty plus years of reading fantasy. Really appreciate your coverage of his work. About to start A Song for Arbonne.
Thank you for the kind words. Your recent experience is exactly what I was hoping would happen with my GGK videos. I envy you being able to experience Kay's works for the first time. Re-reading his books is wonderful, but it's not quite the same as the first time.
I can relate to what you say about the Lions of Al-Rassan. It had me in tears at places. I feel like it might be his best work but Under Heaven is very good too. Enjoy!
I am so glad I found this channel. Thanks to you I've bought Tigana and finished reading it today. THANK YOU, THANK YOU and THANK YOU a thousand times more, Library Ladder! I really needed this book and now I definitely want to explore all the other works of fiction by Guy Gavriel Kay.
@@thelibraryladder I really liked Tigana, because the wish to restore/preserve cultural identities, languages and even dialects has been a part of me since childhood. But I can totally understand that not everyone feels the same.
So glad to see a spotlight on Kay, he is a force in fantasy, and one of the greatest writers I have ever read. He truly captures the human spirit, and the ineffable qualities of time and place, and the way they exert power upon us in ways we don't even realize. If I can write one novel and have it feel as *true* as his works, I will feel I've done something worthy with my time as a writer.
What a wonderful talk. Thank you. This is my first encounter with your channel and I have liked and subscribed. I am certainly inspired! I had not even heard of this writer, but I'm on the hunt now. He sounds fabulous.
That’s exactly what I hoped to accomplish - generating more awareness of and interest in Kay’s novels. They really are amazing. I’d suggest starting with A Song for Arbonne or A Brightness Long Ago as good entry points to his books. Thanks!
@@ThortheGodly Yes, I'm now about halfway through River of Stars, which was available at my local library. It's wonderful - - and that's not even one of his favourites! Enjoy!
@@thelibraryladder :) you have exceeded your goal! i'm incredibly interested in this author now, and adored this video and I love your voice :D thank you
I just want to thank you for making this video. This popped up in my feed quite randomly it seemed, but I had to click to see if I could guess who you'd pick. I thought myself well-read in the genre, yet I had never heard of this author before. I just finished Tigana today and I'm astounded that Kay is not more acclaimed. What an amazing book.
Thanks! I'm glad the video was helpful. Just wait until you read Kay's other novels, some of which are even better than Tigana, in my opinion. (I have another video that tier ranks his books if you're interested.)
@@thelibraryladder You can bet I'll be reading more! I don't think I've ever read prose that gave me such a beautiful ache. Dianora and the sea have haunted my dreams for two nights now. I watched your tier list and was able to pick up Song for Arbonne and Under Heaven this weekend.
Kay is my favorite author- my best friend handed me Fionavar and I was hooked. It took me 3 tries to make it through Tigana, but so worth the effort, although it has the most unfair ending in fiction since A Separate Peace. I am so happy to see this that I'm subscribing!
Excellent analysis of an excellent author! I admire how Kay does not ride any bloated, multi-volume pot-boiler gravy trains, rather choosing fresh ideas and putting in the time and work to make each new story special. Thanks for shining a well-deserved light on this under-appreciated literary fantasy master.
Sailing to Sarantium is a two-volume, but I think it’s worth it. And of course the Fionavar Tapestry, which were his first books, but again worth it and not as bloated as a lot of GRRM’s works IMHO. I have loved every book of his. I love fantasy and historical fiction and he marries both beautifully!
This channel came up at random and super glad I clicked. I have never heard of this writer but I have never been so sold on a new writer after a recommendation. Excited to listen and hopefully find a hidden gem I can dive into. Thank you for the awesome video! Subscribed and for sure going to watch more.
Thanks! And Tigana isn't even Kay's best novel, in my opinion. He has several others that I enjoyed even more. I tier rank and review his books in another video if you haven't already seen it.
I have rarely found historical fiction to be to my tastes, but your well reasoned recommendation has convinced me to give Kay a try, particularly when you mentioned his prose fitting with Simon Vance's narration. Well done sir, you earned my like and subscribe, plus kudos on your A+ NPR voice. I look forward to the rest of your videos!
Great! I'm so glad to have inspired you to give him a try. Kay doesn't really write historical fiction. It's fantasy, but with a quasi-historical flavor to it. If you'd like recommendations for where to start reading his works, you might find helpful my earlier video in which I briefly review and tier rank his books (spoiler-free). Thanks!
Thanks! If you'd like suggestions for where to start reading Kay, I have a spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) that briefly reviews and ranks his books. I hope you enjoy reading them!
Truly appreciate the recommendation, as a budding fantasy reader! However, I wanted to highlight my appreciation for the presentation. Slowly, clearly, calmly spoken, and well thought out video essay. A VERY welcome reprieve from shouty, spur of the moment, jump-cut filled nonsense on RUclips these days!
Thank you for your very kind comment! For suggestions on where to start reading Kay's novels, I have a spoiler-free video from about six months ago that briefly reviews and tier ranks his books (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html). I hope it's helpful, and I hope you enjoy reading Kay as much as I do.
The original DragonLance novels by Weiss and Hickman were my first series that had me hooked as a kid. I envy you so so much as you have so much fantasy to look forward to. You haven't pigeon holed yourself into certain types of fantasy yet and have that adventure to go on. It's magic. I wish you years of joy. Then you can join the rest of us waiting nearly ten years for Patrick Rothfuss to release Doors of Stone and the same ten years for Scott Lynch to release The Thorn of Emberlain. What have you enjoyed so far? (If you don't mind my asking?)
@@bobdrooples I've read some basics (Harry Potter, the Inheritance Cycle, Narnia, Many Cosmere Novels,...etc). Thanks for the recommendations; I'll be sure to check them out! Waiting is the worst part of reading current series for sure
I think it is the saddest thing when an author takes so long to release the next book in a series. But it is just as sad to think that commercial considerations force authors to rush the writing of further books in a series. I love reading and savouring a well-written book, but am just as happy with the fact that the world has discovered the classics in this genre through the lens of the movies or television series. Love to share those richly imagined worlds with others.
Terrific! If you'd like suggestions for where to start reading his novels, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) that briefly reviews and ranks his books. I hope you enjoy them as much as I do. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I watch no youtube videos about fiction, literary works, libraries, reading, writing, composition, grammer, literature etc. yet youtube randomly posted this while I was scrolling.... I think I am gonna read this guy’s works now.
Great stuff!! I think there's a good reason why this video has done so well as lots of people are desperate to find other Fantasy book series that can be on some level like Tolkiens or GRRM's books. I think this video has done a great service in providing another recommendation for another series of books thats unique in itself and most importantly (to a certain degree) hasn't been made into a film or TV media franchise......not yet any way :) Please forgive the previous comment I made, as that was for the MIchael Moorcock video ha
Thanks! It's remarkable how much the fantasy genre has grown in popularity over the past 30 years or so, particularly when compared to the relative decline of science fiction's popularity. Fantasy authors began aggressively reinventing and expanding the genre in the late 1980s as a way of overcoming the stagnation induced by D&D-inspired books and Tolkien's many imitators up to that point. And fantasy continues to push beyond traditional boundaries, particularly as it expands its exploration of the lore, mythologies and histories of non-Western European cultures. Kay's Moorish-inspired 'The Lions of Al-Rassan' and Chinese-inspired 'Under Heaven' were early and notable examples of that cultural expansion.
1. First time hearing about this author (and I'm Canadian! So that's a little embarrassing) and now I'm interested due to your recommendation 2. Sir, I would LOVE to listen to anything you read out loud as an audio book
Wonderful and thank you! If you'd like suggestions about where to start reading Kay, I have a spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) that briefly reviews and tier ranks his novels.
At first, when I heard that you were not voting Erikson, I was a bit disappointed, but once I saw where you are going with it, I found myself agreeing with you.
@@linjicakonikon7666 have you read book of the fallen in it's entirety or one of those people who gave up halfway throughout Gardens? Erikson is a genius. completely in awe of the man
Thank you very much for this insightful video. I have been looking for a reliable and unbiased source of information on fantasy authors and their work for a long time.
Thank you! Although I can't claim to be completely unbiased (after all, opinions are inherently subjective), I am striving to be a reliable, balanced and objective source of information about authors and books that don't typically receive a lot of attention here on BookTube. :)
Thank you for having a good reason for discounting Susanna Clarke. I feel like, when judged as pieces of literature, Johnathan Strange and Mr Norell stands above all other recent fantasy. And respect for the G.G. Kay choice, I always suggest him to people who want fantasy that is dark but doesn't have that weird fetishy torture fantasy fulfillment quality that George RR Martin has.
Thanks! I think Jonathan Strange and Piranesi are truly remarkable books, but Clarke needs to write more books before I can consider her for the top spot. :)
I'm a definite bibliophile. I'm not typically looking at youtube for anything book related, but you popped up in my suggestions. I'm glad to have a new author to discover... and I'm looking forward to exploring your channel further. You must know this already, but your voice is amazing!
Thank you! If you'd like suggestions for where to start reading Kay's novels, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) that briefly reviews and ranks his books. Thanks for watching and commenting!
What a wonderful, soothing, and warm voice. I'd come back solely for that. GGK has been my favorite author for a long time. He deserves much more recognition. Thanks!
I watch no youtube videos about fiction, nonfiction, literary works, libraries, reading, writing, composition, grammar, literature etc. yet youtube randomly recommended this... I am gonna read this guy’s works now.
I am intrigued. I have been searching for an author who can balance character development and plot. And, as per your video Mr. Kay seems a remarkable fit!
Kay fits your criteria very well and doesn't require a lengthy investment of time reading multi-book series to fully enjoy. As entry points to reading his novels, I recommend A Song for Arbonne and A Brightness Long Ago, both of which have strong protagonists and great pacing. For more suggestions, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video that briefly reviews and ranks his books. Thanks for watching and commenting!
My first encounter with his work was The Fionavar Tapestry. I was blown away. He and Pratchett have a unique way of creating characters so unique and complete, they each seem to be written by a different writer 👌
This is a slightly modified re-upload of a video I made in January 2022. Due to (valid) complaints about the audio mix in that video, I've improved the audio in this new version and addressed a couple of visual elements that needed fixing. Otherwise, the content of this video is the same as the original's.
I thought I recognized this content.... I like and appreciate going back and updating or redoing your previous videos, but don't take folks complaints too much to heart, your content is a step above. can't wait to see more. do you have any thoughts on literary awards?
the Secret Sauce of Storycraft Thanks! I decided to fix it because I had the same frustrations as many viewers. Unfortunately, I realized it needed fixing only after the video had started getting traction on YT. I was reluctant to replace it early on, out of concern it might derail my (at the time) tiny channel's standing in YT's algorithm. However, I felt like I owed it to GGK to do a better job, so I've been determined to correct the flaws in the original video. I won't be making a habit of this, though. It wasn't easy pulling the plug (figuratively) on my most popular video that still drives traffic and subscriptions almost six months after I posted it. My hope is that the algorithm will allow a seamless transition from the old version to the updated one. My thoughts on literary awards in general are that they're only as good as the preferences, biases and ranges of experience of voters who select them (as well as the incentive structures surrounding the voting). I find the finalist lists for book awards to be useful in identifying potentially good reading material, but even then, the nominated books or short stories often are hit-or-miss for me, and at least half the time, the chosen winner is a real head-scratcher, given the (IMO better) competition it was up against. Also, I tend to read newer books at least 2-3 years after publication (and after the initial marketing hype and award lobbying has subsided, when more measured and unbiased reviews can be found), so I usually have no opinion on most award finalists during their nomination year.
@@atomictraveller If he were still alive, he’d be a viable contender (although it’s difficult with translated books to know how much credit (or blame) to assign to the translator instead of the author).
I've never heard of this author. Seeing as you mentioned pretty much all of my favorites, I won't need to hesitate on picking him up. Thanks for bringing this guy forward!
You're welcome! If you want suggestions for where to start reading his novels, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) that briefly reviews and tier ranks his books. I hope you enjoy his books as much as I do.
Wow! I just subscribed at your channel because it is the first time I see a video talking about Guy Gabriel Kay and praising his work. I love this author and read all his books. His writing style is beautiful. Every one of his books made me cry because the way it was written.
Great video and channel, thank you! GGK is my favorite as well, alongside Tad Williams. (Looking forward to your video about him) A song for Arbonne is my favorite, but Lions is also a very close second. Have yet to try his newer work, must get on it soon. :)
And a very enjoyable rabbit hole it is. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat. It's much more like a hobbit-hole, and that means comfort. Happy birthday!
Thanks, I constantly look for fantasy and I'm always getting the same ones. Their good don't get me wrong but I think its great to see a lesser known author with truly great work.
Thanks! I’m trying to highlight many of those lesser known or overlooked authors and works in the fantasy genre as well as other genres with this channel.
I appreciate your kind words! If you'd like suggestions on where to start reading Kay's novels, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video that briefly reviews and tier ranks his books (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html).
I owe you big thanks for the recommendation. I had never even heard about G. G. Kay before watching this video (yes, what a shame). Although it has come at a cost in the form of several sleepless nights -- I was simply unable to stop reading. ;-)
@@danielw8620 I have a spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) that briefly reviews and tier ranks Kay's novels if you'd like suggestions for where to starting reading him.
@@thelibraryladder just watched it, awesome, look forward to checking out his work. I will probably start with Lions and if i like that I have no problem going to his "lesser regarded" works, but I figure I should start with 1 of his masterpieces to see if it is worth it to dive into his catalogue of work, great videos!
Thanks! Before you do so, you might watch my earlier, spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) in which I briefly review and rank his books. It might help you decide which book to start with.
Wonderful! If you'd like suggestions for where to start reading his novels, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) that briefly reviews and ranks his books. I generally recommend starting with A Song for Arbonne or A Brightness Long Ago, due to their strong protagonists and very good pacing, but there are other good candidates as well. I hope you enjoy his books as much as I do!
@@thelibraryladder I'll go over the list in my spare time, but given your description of his works on this video, I have a strong feeling that Mr. Kay will likely end up becoming one of my favorites. I'm real glad the algorithm recommend your video to me.
Well said, I agree totally that he is a much under appreciated author - I have all his novels, pretty much as they were released. And he almost never gets mentioned when people speak about The Silmarillion, which is a huge 'ignore'. If you asked me to name my individual favourite of his books, I doubt I could answer as they are all so enjoyable but in differing ways, the only one that I would exclude, would be the last book of the Fionavar Tapestry; which I thought didn't rise to the writing or story standard of the first 2 of the series and all subsequent books. (another under rated author, IMO, although now dead, is David Gemell).
A friend recommended Fiavonar Tapestry and it sits on my shelf in wait, but your video has certainly launched it closer to the top of my TBR. I have a few series to finish out or read some more on, but I'll make sure to tackle it soon. Your description makes it sound right up my alley. Your assertion about fantasy being padded out (I'd argue also oversaturated) speaks to me. It makes it painful to commit to anything new in the genre, which is why I've shifted to scifi a bit more lately.
Thanks! Oversaturated is a good descriptor. There are so many good-but-not-great fantasy books (and book series) being published these days that it's becoming difficult to distinguish them from one another (and from the earlier books they're imitating). Although I think highly of the Fionavar trilogy, I don't generally recommend it as a starting point for reading Kay. It was his debut work, and it shows in some places, particularly in the first book, which has several noteworthy weaknesses. I think his A Song for Arbonne and A Brightness Long Ago make better entry points to his novels. And if you'd like more suggestions, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video that briefly reviews and tier ranks his books.
@@thelibraryladder I'll add those to the list, though since I have access to it, I'll still check out Fiovanar, but everything I've heard about Kay, even before this video, has been stellar!
The music is making me very anxious, but I stayed and pushed through because I wanted to hear the content. I will give this author a try and thank you for the recommendation
Thanks! I'm sorry the music didn't agree with you. If you'd like suggestions for where to start reading Kay, I have a spoiler-free video (with less stressful music) that briefly reviews and ranks his novels. (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html)
I'd never even heard of the guy but I will most definitely check some of his books out as I just looked up a sample of his prose and it's very much to my liking - thanks for the recommendation!
You're very welcome! If you'd like suggestions for where to start with reading his books, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video that briefly reviews and tier ranks his novels.
GGK is so entertaining and engrossing. I’ve read his earlier works like the Fionovar Tapestry, Tigana, Lions of Al-Rassan, and Song for Arbonne. I need to catch up with his later works. Great stuff!
@@dawnmoriarty9347 Thank you! I try to keep things moving at a reasonable pace, but my natural rate of speech is a little on the slow side, so I’m aiming for a happy medium.
AWWWW man, Thank you so much for doing this video as Ive been dying for someone to cover Michael Moorcock and I ve learnt a lot more from you in this video :) thank you again and hope we'll see more :)
@@thelibraryladder I've just realised that this comment is on the wrong video hahaha. please forgive as I was meant to post this on the Michael Moorcock video you did. what an epic fail on my part :). I'm gona repost it now on the video it should be on
Okay, so, the title popped-up on the right side "[UPDATED] This Fantasy Author Deserves Far More Recognition and Acclaim" and I just had to check it out! TBH, I was aware of GGK, as I worked for various book retailers in the 80's & 90's, but never read any of his work. Now, I'm very intrigued! However, the thing in this video that made me *the happiest* was your saying it's perfect for people who are into audiobooks! I have vision issues after a massive 2016 stroke, so audiobooks are easiest for me (though, I do use a Kindle, too). I'm going to watch your other GGK video for your ranking, but have already decided Tigana will be my first foray into his works, as it came highly recommended from others! Many thanks, and yes, I have subscribed! P.S. To answer your question as to WHY GGK's books aren't more popular, I think your assessment that people prefer *series* in Fantasy novels is spot on. Now, in the Mystery genre, you had Dick Francis churning out unrelated horse racing novels for decades; in fiction, Clive Cussler, or Robin Cook. However, when I think of SF/F, I have difficulty in naming successful single / stand alone Fantasy authors - at least modern ones. Old school guys in SF like James Blish, Clifford D. Simak, Poul Anderson, Ray Bradbury, Robert Silverberg and Robert Heinlein made their living that way, though (can you tell whom I grew-up reading / loving?).
Thanks for your very engaging comment! It sounds like we have a lot of reading interests in common, and I intend to make videos about several of the authors you mentioned. Regarding GGK, I generally don't recommend Tigana as a starting point for readers, although it's probably his best-known book. I think highly of it, but elements of the book can be problematic for some readers. Instead, I usually recommend A Song for Arbonne or A Brightness Long Ago as great entry points, but there are many other terrific choices as well. I hope that's helpful.
Guy Gavriel Kay and Lois McMaster Bujold are my two picks for (Authors That Deserves Far More Recognition and Acclaim), only found out about Kay thanks to your video, it's sad how underlooked he is even among fantasy fans.
I'm so glad I was able to introduce you to Kay's novels. Bujold is another underappreciated author. I wonder if she's overlooked sometimes because she writes in both the science fiction and fantasy genres, leading people not to associate her with either genre.
@@LvUhcX Thanks for keeping an open mind about Kay’s books. In another video, I tier rank his novels, which might help you decide which book to start with. I’d suggest not starting with Tigana. A Song for Arbonne and A Brightness Long Ago are better entry points, in my opinion. Thanks for watching!
I don't like historic novels in general but Kay's historic fantasies are an exception. I think his reputation is not as great as it might be because the whole of 'The Fianovar Tapestry' feels very sub-LotR. He does ring the changes; I never expected the second book to take the turn into an entirely different mythos and who else but Kay could manage to take two wildly different sources of said legends and make that merging entirely believable. Also, the ending always makes me cry, as does that of 'A Song for Arbonne'. There is a link through all his books to Fianovar, and to a fantasy trope based vaguely on Plato's Doctrine of Forms. See C.S. Lewis's Narnia books, Roger Zelazny's Amber series and Philip Jose Farmer's 'World of Tiers series for other examples,
Great comment! I hadn't thought of that connection to Plato, but I can see how it fits. Neal Stephenson is another author who applies a version of the Doctrine of Forms in some of his books (and quite explicitly in his science fiction/science fantasy novel Anathem). Thanks!
I queued this video out of curiosity as to who your choice for this honor would be and whether I had read them. The answer to the first question delighted me. I first discovered Kay shortly after the publication of The Summer Tree, which I found in a used bookstore. I eagerly awaited and avidly devoured the second and third books of The Fionavar Tapestry and haunted libraries and bookstores in search of further offerings. I understand now why these were so thin on the ground. Finding other fantasy authors in the course of my search for more of Kay's work, I drifted away from the "K" section of the bookshelves. Thank you so much for reminding me to go back, with so many books awaiting me!
Wonderful! I'm so glad you plan to revisit him. If you'd like suggestions, I have an earlier video in which I tier rank his novels. Also, I don't recommend starting with Tigana, as certain aspects of it can be a little problematic for some readers. Instead, I recommend A Brightness Long Ago and A Song for Arbonne as great entry points. I hope that's helpful!
I started watching this video with trepidation, but all of my fears were washed away once you said the word "Canadian" and I knew where this road was leading ;) As luck would have it I am blessed to be in the middle of a reread of Under Heaven. You have earned this like and subscribe.
Hearing about this author for the first time.. Lucky that this video got recommended.. Ordered A Song for Arbonne right away.. :) Thank you for recommending this. That another video you had posted reviewing each of Guy Gavriel Kay's book was also quite helpful to know where to start for a new reader. Looking forward to more book reviews from you..
Thank you so much for highlighting this author. These are very enjoyable books that I almost certainly would have missed had I not come across your essay. I really hope that work like yours spreads far and wide to give Kay more exposure to readers. Personally the thing I'm enjoying most about his books so far is how carefully considered the stories, characters and writing is.
He is, and has been for years, my favorite fantasy author. But I have had to stop reading him, as even he can become redundant if you read him in large doses for too long. You begin to pick up on his prose style. I could probably even satirize it: "Giordani stared out at the falling golden leaves and thought back to his family, to a world unto itself, to a parent's love and a lovers' passion, to times spent together singing songs beneath the orchard boughs, to times long gone. All leaves fall. Life was yet another."
[chuckle] I agree that bingeing his works could become a little exhausting. He’s a fantastic palate cleanser after reading other authors, though. Thanks for commenting!
@@SysterYster Yes, but not in a heavily verbose sense. His prose is clean, but languid. It is simple, yet profound. He will allow a character to stay in the moment long enough to drop some profound insight. This is wonderful and romantic and melancholic and human all at the same time, but it can become too much. I love GGK, trust me. But the prosaic meanderings punctuated by philosophical zingers can get old when it happens too often. I like to think of him as the antithesis to Martin. Whereas ol' Georgie clearly thinks the worst of humanity, GGK shows humanity just as flawed, just as selfish, just as dark and traitorous and destructive, but unlike G.R.R. Martin, GGK adds an ellipsis to the end of that misanthropic conclusion: "... And often for the deepest and tragically human of reasons." It isn't hopeful, per se. But it isn't as nihilistically bleak as Martin. It is sad, and relatable. Gosh, now I need to get around to reading his latest book. Cheers!
@@brendanpeters655 Yeah, some beautiful and/or poetic descriptions or thoughts to deepen characters are fine, it's when it gets too much or too often that I get bored by it, or taken out of the story. I love the way GRRM describes things though, and the pacing of his writing. Regardless of how positive or negative it is. I don't like when things are too slow, at least not for too long. But I also usually prefer more positive and happy stories than say, grimdark. GRRM isn't grimdark though, just a bit dark. :) lol, I'm gonna check him out. But gotta finish Lightbringer first. Very good series, btw. :) Cheers!
Thanks to the RUclips algorithm for sending me your way! I've just recently been going through a total re-read of GGK's books and I'm kicking myself for somehow missing A Brightness Long Ago. Sounds like All the Seas of the World would have been more enjoyable if I'd read Brightness first. You mention Joe Abercrombie in the very beginning of this video. He would be my personal pick for Best Fantasy Novelist of All Time. I would LOVE a video ranking his books, or just to hear your opinions on his work. I'll be waiting for your videos to come up in my subscriptions!
Thank you! That's unfortunate that you missed A Brightness Long Ago, both because it's one of his best (I typically recommend it as one of the best entry points for newcomers to Kay's novels), and because it really is essential to fully appreciate his most recent book. I think very highly of Abercrombie and have greatly enjoyed most of his books (with only a couple of exceptions). I might eventually make a video about him, but it probably won't be for a while. Most of my focus in this channel is on authors and books that don't get a lot of attention on RUclips -- from the older classics in various genres, to the modern classics that often are overlooked. I hope you enjoy my videos and are inspired by them to try authors and books that are a little different than your usual fare (which is my goal with this channel). Thanks again!
H. Rider Haggard has been the Greatest discovery of my later years. He's the "Grandaddy of 'em all". His best books are buried by "She" and so forth, but if you want to find out what really great writing is then Start with "Marie" and try to read them in the chronological order of the stories themselves, not the order they were written. Allan Quartermain is one of the Greatest Voices in all of Literature and many, like Kipling & Edgar Rice Burroughs, borrowed copiously from Rider Haggard.
Thanks for your comment! I agree that Haggard had a huge influence on early speculative fiction and on adventure fiction more broadly. He really knew how to tell a story well. I have his entire collected works (although I've read only about a third of them so far), and I intend to make a video about them and their influence on other authors at some point.
Thank you! I'm thrilled at how quickly the channel has grown over the past few months. I plan to keep producing more videos like the ones I've been making.
As soon as I saw the title of the video, my mind went to GGK. I've been avidly reading his books since the 80s and I enthusiastically await each new novel. I'd be hard pressed to pick a favorite. Having attended some of his readings at book launch events, I can attest he is gracious and witty in person. Definitely deserving of more recognition.
He was on my to read list, but I was not really aware of him or his quality of books. Definitely a lot higher on my list now! I am going to give the audiobook a try.
Wonderful! For suggestions on where to start reading Kay's novels, I have a spoiler-free video from about six months ago that briefly reviews and tier ranks his books (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html).
I'm happy for the fortuitous timing! I have an earlier, spoiler-free video in which I briefly review and tier rank his novels, if you'd like suggestions on where to start. A Song for Arbonne and A Brightness Long Ago are great entry points, in my opinion. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I've long considered GGK my favorite author of books published as Fantasy. This video mirrors my thoughts on Kay and his output pretty much to the nth degree. This being my first exposure to your channel, I've not yet watched the followup ranking video, but based on your Comments replies suspect we pretty much agree there too.
Watching, liking and commenting in hopes the algorithm shows some consideration for such an unique and insightful content like yours. Since I watched your first video on Kay, I added, well, potentially all of his work to my "To be read" list, but particularly the ones that caught my attention the most, like The Lions of Al-Rassan, The Fionavar Tapestry, and The Sarantine Mosaic. Normally, I tend to favor series over standalones novels, but I can see the value and the necessary skill to craft a well-rounded story with its setting, characters and plot all contained in a single volume. I feel like I need to start adding those kinds of books to my repertoire, and GGK sounds like a really good option to begin. By yhe way, another author of whom I've recently heard of and that seems to share Kay's inclination to standalones is Patricia A. McKillip. Do you happen to be familiarized with her work? Anyway, it's good to see your compromise to improve your videos and I sincerely hope you keep growing and your work reacher more people.
Thank you, Kay, for taking the time to watch and comment on the video again to help its relaunch. I hope RUclips's algorithm allows a seamless transition to the new version, because I heavily sabotaged the searchabiity of the old one in an effort to minimize viewer confusion. You picked some great books to start reading Kay, although I'd suggest not beginning with Fionavar. It's well worth reading, but it's not very representative of most of his works. McKillip (who recently passed away) was one of the big names in the emergence of the fantasy genre in the 1970s. Her writing style has some of the beautiful, lyrical qualities of GGK's prose, but I find her storytelling to be not quite as compelling (still good, nonetheless). I should note that I've only read some of her older classics, and not anything she wrote in the past 25 years or so (which I'd like to rectify).
@@thelibraryladder What drew my curiosity about McKillip's book was looking them up and seeing the beautiful cover art some of her books have. Still, my TBR list is somewhat long, so I guess her books can remain a little behind for now. Thanks for responding!
I've only ever read The Lions of Al-Rassan, but that one book is enough for me to know Guy Gavriel Kay is criminally underrated. I really want to read Tigana now because it was the first book by him I ever saw anybody mention and since then it's haunted me by showing up on every "best fantasy ever" list I click on. This video reminded me of that.
I made another video in which I tier rank Kay’ novels. In my opinion, Tigana is excellent, but there are at least four other books by Kay that are even better (one of which you’ve already read). You might try A Song for Arbonne or Under Heaven instead of Tigana. Thanks for commenting!
@@thelibraryladder Tigana would be way down the list for me, with the understanding that the bottom of the list is really good. I think reading his books in published order is a good way to go. You never know which books will be your favourites. From Wiki: The Fionavar Tapestry, a portal fantasy in which five travel from our Earth to "the first of all worlds" The Summer Tree (1984) The Wandering Fire (1986), winner of the 1987 Prix Aurora Award[6] The Darkest Road (1986) Tigana (1990), taking place in a setting based on Renaissance Italy A Song for Arbonne (1992), inspired by the Albigensian Crusade in medieval Provence The Lions of Al-Rassan (1995), set in an analogue of medieval Spain The Sarantine Mosaic, inspired by the Byzantium of Justinian I Sailing to Sarantium (1998) Lord of Emperors (2000) The Last Light of the Sun (2004), inspired by the Viking invasions during the reign of Alfred the Great Ysabel (2007), a contemporary fantasy set in Provence, centering on a teenage boy and his encounters with characters from the distant past. Linked to his Fionavar Tapestry series. Under Heaven (April 27, 2010), inspired by the 8th century Tang Dynasty and the events leading up to the An Shi Rebellion River of Stars (April 2, 2013), taking place in the same setting as Under Heaven, based on the 12th century Song Dynasty and the events around the Jin-Song Wars and the transition from Northern Song to Southern Song Children of Earth and Sky (May 10, 2016), taking place in the same world as The Lions of Al-Rassan, The Sarantine Mosaic, and The Last Light of the Sun, and taking place in a world based on Italy, Istanbul and the Balkans in the 15th century A Brightness Long Ago (May 14, 2019), prequel to Children of Earth and Sky[7] All the Seas of the World (May 17, 2022)
@@rdh-daliasjb3796 If you haven’t already watched it, you might find my companion video that tier ranks Kay’s novels useful for choosing a starting point. I generally don’t recommend starting chronologically with Fionavar and Tigana, although publication order works fine for his other books. Fionavar isn’t representative of the rest of his works, while Tigana has a few elements that can be off-putting to some readers.
@@thelibraryladder Just watched and enjoyed it! I would probably have only four categories: Loved it - Re-read over and over; Really liked it - Re-read; Okay - Maybe, but not likely, re-read if in the mood; The bin for everythink else no matter how good or bad. Loved it category: The Fionavar trilogy; The Lions of Al-Rassan; The Sarantine Mosaic; Under Heaven; River of Stars; A Song For Arbonne.
I only read the Fionavar Tapestry once, long ago, and that was all I needed to convince me he was at least the equal of Tolkien. It was brilliant and beautiful. I recommend it to people all the time, and no one's ever heard of him. I think it's criminal, especially considering his role in the Silmarillion. Sometimes I don't think those Tolkien nerds know as much as they think they do...
I've recently listened to Tigana and Sailing to Sarantium. I'm nearly finished with Lord of Emperors and dear me. The emotional punch his books pack is wild. Appreciate the video.
Thank you. That’s exactly what I hoped to accomplish with the video - make more people aware of Kay and interested in reading his works. I made another video in February that ranks his books, if you want suggestions of where to start.
Great! If you'd like suggestions for where to start reading Kay's novels, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) that briefly reviews and tier ranks his books. Thanks for watching!
Based on this video, I went and read The Lions of al-Rassan. Wow. So impressed, and such an enjoyable read. I'm looking forwards to reading is other books.
Thanks for posting this. Agree wholeheartedly. Kay should be recognized in Canada as a national treasure, and outside Canada as, you say, the best fantasy writer in the world today. I believe he is recognized among his peers - I heard a lecture by Brandon Sanderson in which he claimed that all fantasy writers were just trying to be Guy Gavriel Kay. That's some high praise, anyway.
Damn, I was hoping for a really cool writer I hadn't read, but instead it was a really cool author I had read. GGK is exceptionally good, always feels magical reading his books. Rothfuss and Clarke are also exceptional but are unlikely to catch up in body of work size... All in all, it seems my tastes align with yours, will certainly look at other recommendations you make!
I watched this video in the spring and thanks to your eloquent endorsment I read my first GGK book: Sailing to Sarantium. It will not be my last, as I have already bought Tigana.
Wonderful! I hope you meant the Sarantine Mosaic. It's a duology, of which Sailing to Sarantium is the first half. You definitely should read the second book, Lord of Emperors, before moving on to another Kay book. :)
Kudos for Kay! I remember when I first encountered his writing. I was given all 3 of The Fionavar Tapestry for Christmas 1989. Best gift. Once I started I was immersed in their world and lifes and didn't come up for breath until the end.
@@dawnmoriarty9347 I'm and avid rereader, so its a high compliment when i absolutely loved Tigana after my first read, but couldnt pick it up again for years after because its so heartbreaking.
Great analysis, this made me want to reread Tigana again. It's such a breathtaking book, full of profound themes but also very readable with compelling and likeable characters. And feelings. Oh god so many feelings. Also, I just wanted to say that your voice is very soothing and pleasant.
In defense of long multi-volumed fantasy series: you absolutely cannot make some moments like The Battle of Dumai's Wells (Wheel of Time) without the context and build up of 6 books combined. You cannot make that absolutely gigantic moment of pay-off in just 1 book, simply because you can't create the many factions, cultures, characters and different magic systems that collide in that moment in Jordan's fantasy in the page-count of a single book. Same with The Red Wedding in A Song of Ice and Fire. You need the context of 2 entire books to understand the severity of the situation. I'm absolutely aware I've put two examples from series that have been critizised of padding, and yeah, some subplots in The Wheel of Time 's middle books didn't deserved that much attention, but at the same time I'm currently reading the last book of the series and I can't imagine some of the best parts of that book without the tremendous build up the so-called ''Slog'' did. Having the ability to make great stand-alone books is great. But creating a long series has its strong points and benefits too.
I completely agree with your comment. Standalones and series are distinct creations, and I enjoy both types, including the two series you mentioned. I just wish more fantasy authors would choose to write an occasional standalone, rather than forcing readers to invest significant time in a series that might take years to finish and could ultimately be a disappointment. Thanks for commenting!
I've heard of Guy before but I haven't read any of his work, you have indeed inspired me to do so. Glad this popped up in my recommended, I've subscribed.
Thank you! If you'd like suggestions about where to start reading Kay's novels, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video that briefly reviews and ranks his books (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html).
This is a slightly modified re-upload of a video I made in January 2022. Due to (valid) complaints about the audio mix in that video, I've improved the audio in this new version and addressed a couple of visual elements that needed fixing. Otherwise, the content of this video is the same as the original's. A follow-up video that briefly reviews and tier ranks the author's novels can be found at ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html.
I was oddly surprised that there was no mention of JRR Tolkien... But great video regardless
@@abcxyz- I limited the pool of candidates only to living authors who are still writing and publishing today. Thanks!
You have an excellent voice Sir, do you also narrate audio books?
@@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886 Thank you! Based on comments such as yours, I’m thinking of recording some classic stories and uploading them here on my channel as audiobooks.
@@thelibraryladder I am genuinely surprised that you are not already a professional audio book narrator or Radio Jockey. You certainly have the voice for such things. Kudos and Good Fortune to your audio related ventures in the future!
Like many others here, this video popped up unexpectedly in my recommended videos and as a Kay fan since the early 90's I really enjoyed it but I'm subscribing because I see you have videos on Moorcock's Eternal Champion and Stephen Donaldson's Thomas Covenant as well. So many modern readers seem to think that the idea of a dark, conflicted, anti-hero was invented sometime in the mid-90's or early 2000's so it's great to see these two authors get some attention - especially Moorcock, who I think so many modern authors owe a huge debt to and yet he never gets mentioned in discussions of the best fantasy.
Thanks, Mark! I'm trying to focus many of my videos on the roots of modern genre fiction, highlighting pioneers (such as Moorcock and others) who established many of the conventions of a genre.
I read the Thomas Covenant chronicles when I was about 12 and loved it, I liked his style. I might have to look into Moorcock as well, two Author recommendations from one video, awesome.
he is my second favorite behind Roger Zelazny.
@@oneday5704 Amber!
I've never heard of him, but this has peaked my interest.
This channel is awesome! The way you describe everything in precise detail is amazing. I never heard of Kay, and now I want to read all of his books. Thank you!
Thanks! If you haven't already seen it, I have a spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) that briefly reviews and tier ranks Kay's novels. It might help you decide where you'd like start with him.
Be prepared. Have time and tissues 😁 because you won't want to stop reading and you probably won't be able to stop the tears.
I agree. Kay is very underrated. His stories are so emotionally charged. He is one of the very few authors that can make me cry. Tigana is a masterpiece.
He's brought tears to my eyes as well. Thanks for watching and commenting!
GGK has been reliably in my top 5 fantasy authors and has never left it. Each and every one of his novels is a gem. Thank you for highlighting his career and writing style!
Thanks! I'm glad to find people like you who appreciate Kay's terrific novels.
I only stumbled onto your channel yesterday, and had never of Guy Gavriel Kay before, but thanks to your soft-spoken and thorough advocacy of him, I picked up my first Kay novel today. I get the feeling that I'm about to step into something remarkable. The icing on the cake is that Simon Vance is probably my favorite audiobook narrator around.
Welcome aboard! I hope you enjoy GGK as much as I do. Vance is my favorite audiobook narrator as well. Either he has great taste in choosing book projects, or his performance skills can overcome even mediocre material, because I've never not enjoyed a book he narrated.
Well I'm sold. Thank you for this video. I knew of some of more famous books but now that you've explained properly how he writes, it seems like someone I'd very much enjoy reading.
Wonderful! I'm so glad you found it helpful. If you haven't already seen it, I have another video in which I briefly review and tier rank Kay's books. Cheers!
@@thelibraryladder I'm going to watch it next, thanks!
YES YES YES!!!! A MILLION TIMES YES!!!! I clicked on your video hoping this was who you were going to mention, because I feel the same way. I was actually recommended his works by sci-fi writer friend of mine and Kay has quickly become my favorite author. I have been reading his works since the early 1990s. I have never understood why he is not more recognized and has no movies made. I reread them all the time. Absolute favorite author of all time, even more than Tolkien!
Historical fiction and Fantasy are my favorites and he marries the two beautifully in a way I’ve never seen before. Perfection in every book! I also read that he often will find a place with a similar landscape to the story he’s focused on to write or finish up his books.
I also love how many of the books all kind of have a vague reference to his initial trilogy in the Gods they worship. That initial world binds them altogether in a beautiful multiverse.
I’d never seen your channel, but you have an instant subscriber in me. Also, love your speaking voice. So soothing.
Thank you! It's been terrific discovering in recent weeks here in the comments how many readers share my (our) admiration of Kay's books, and how many who are new to him are willing to give him a try. I wanted to draw attention to him with this video and its companion tier ranking video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html), and I hope I've accomplished at least a little of that goal.
I started reading GGK after watching one of your videos. Read Tigana and loved it. Just finished up The Lions of Al-Rassan and it was one of the best experiences I’ve had with a book in thirty plus years of reading fantasy. Really appreciate your coverage of his work. About to start A Song for Arbonne.
Thank you for the kind words. Your recent experience is exactly what I was hoping would happen with my GGK videos. I envy you being able to experience Kay's works for the first time. Re-reading his books is wonderful, but it's not quite the same as the first time.
A Song for Arbonne was my first GGK book, and I absolutely loved it. I hope the same is true for you!
I can relate to what you say about the Lions of Al-Rassan. It had me in tears at places. I feel like it might be his best work but Under Heaven is very good too. Enjoy!
I am so glad I found this channel. Thanks to you I've bought Tigana and finished reading it today. THANK YOU, THANK YOU and THANK YOU a thousand times more, Library Ladder! I really needed this book and now I definitely want to explore all the other works of fiction by Guy Gavriel Kay.
That’s terrific! I’m so glad you enjoyed it. I really think you’ll like Kay’s other books. Some of them are even better than Tigana, in my opinion.
@@thelibraryladder I really liked Tigana, because the wish to restore/preserve cultural identities, languages and even dialects has been a part of me since childhood. But I can totally understand that not everyone feels the same.
So glad to see a spotlight on Kay, he is a force in fantasy, and one of the greatest writers I have ever read. He truly captures the human spirit, and the ineffable qualities of time and place, and the way they exert power upon us in ways we don't even realize. If I can write one novel and have it feel as *true* as his works, I will feel I've done something worthy with my time as a writer.
Terrific comment! I could not have said it better myself (and I wish I had said it in this video). Thanks!
What a wonderful talk. Thank you. This is my first encounter with your channel and I have liked and subscribed. I am certainly inspired! I had not even heard of this writer, but I'm on the hunt now. He sounds fabulous.
That’s exactly what I hoped to accomplish - generating more awareness of and interest in Kay’s novels. They really are amazing. I’d suggest starting with A Song for Arbonne or A Brightness Long Ago as good entry points to his books. Thanks!
I'm in that boat too. Never heard of him, first time seeing this channel, but wow. Just...wow. I have to go have a sampling of this one.
@@ThortheGodly Yes, I'm now about halfway through River of Stars, which was available at my local library. It's wonderful - - and that's not even one of his favourites! Enjoy!
@@thelibraryladder :) you have exceeded your goal! i'm incredibly interested in this author now, and adored this video and I love your voice :D thank you
Wonderful! Thanks!
I just want to thank you for making this video. This popped up in my feed quite randomly it seemed, but I had to click to see if I could guess who you'd pick. I thought myself well-read in the genre, yet I had never heard of this author before. I just finished Tigana today and I'm astounded that Kay is not more acclaimed. What an amazing book.
Thanks! I'm glad the video was helpful. Just wait until you read Kay's other novels, some of which are even better than Tigana, in my opinion. (I have another video that tier ranks his books if you're interested.)
@@thelibraryladder You can bet I'll be reading more! I don't think I've ever read prose that gave me such a beautiful ache. Dianora and the sea have haunted my dreams for two nights now. I watched your tier list and was able to pick up Song for Arbonne and Under Heaven this weekend.
Kay is my favorite author- my best friend handed me Fionavar and I was hooked. It took me 3 tries to make it through Tigana, but so worth the effort, although it has the most unfair ending in fiction since A Separate Peace. I am so happy to see this that I'm subscribing!
Thank you! I hope you find more to enjoy on my channel in the future.
Tigana is heartbreaking!
Excellent analysis of an excellent author! I admire how Kay does not ride any bloated, multi-volume pot-boiler gravy trains, rather choosing fresh ideas and putting in the time and work to make each new story special. Thanks for shining a well-deserved light on this under-appreciated literary fantasy master.
Thanks! I'm so glad you enjoyed it! Shining a spotlight on overlooked authors and books is the main reason I started this channel.
Sailing to Sarantium is a two-volume, but I think it’s worth it. And of course the Fionavar Tapestry, which were his first books, but again worth it and not as bloated as a lot of GRRM’s works IMHO. I have loved every book of his. I love fantasy and historical fiction and he marries both beautifully!
I'm a big Kay fan. The quality of his work is unmatched.
Thanks for watching and sharing! I'm a big GGK fan as well!
This channel came up at random and super glad I clicked. I have never heard of this writer but I have never been so sold on a new writer after a recommendation. Excited to listen and hopefully find a hidden gem I can dive into. Thank you for the awesome video! Subscribed and for sure going to watch more.
Thank you! I have an earlier video in which I tier rank Kay’s novels, if you’d like suggestions on good entry points to reading his works.
Where have you been??? I needed this channel a long time ago.
I picked up Tigana because of this video! What a masterpiece! Thank you! Can’t wait for more awesome videos from you!
Thanks! And Tigana isn't even Kay's best novel, in my opinion. He has several others that I enjoyed even more. I tier rank and review his books in another video if you haven't already seen it.
I have rarely found historical fiction to be to my tastes, but your well reasoned recommendation has convinced me to give Kay a try, particularly when you mentioned his prose fitting with Simon Vance's narration. Well done sir, you earned my like and subscribe, plus kudos on your A+ NPR voice. I look forward to the rest of your videos!
Great! I'm so glad to have inspired you to give him a try. Kay doesn't really write historical fiction. It's fantasy, but with a quasi-historical flavor to it.
If you'd like recommendations for where to start reading his works, you might find helpful my earlier video in which I briefly review and tier rank his books (spoiler-free). Thanks!
If you are looking for great historical fiction, Robert Harris has some great options as well as alternate histories
I had no idea who he was... but now I am looking forward to sinking my teeth into his works! Thank you!
Thanks! If you'd like suggestions for where to start reading Kay, I have a spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) that briefly reviews and ranks his books. I hope you enjoy reading them!
Truly appreciate the recommendation, as a budding fantasy reader! However, I wanted to highlight my appreciation for the presentation. Slowly, clearly, calmly spoken, and well thought out video essay. A VERY welcome reprieve from shouty, spur of the moment, jump-cut filled nonsense on RUclips these days!
Thank you for your very kind comment! For suggestions on where to start reading Kay's novels, I have a spoiler-free video from about six months ago that briefly reviews and tier ranks his books (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html). I hope it's helpful, and I hope you enjoy reading Kay as much as I do.
@@thelibraryladder Much appreciated! I’d love to hear your thoughts on James Clavell! Still checking out your older videos though
The original DragonLance novels by Weiss and Hickman were my first series that had me hooked as a kid.
I envy you so so much as you have so much fantasy to look forward to.
You haven't pigeon holed yourself into certain types of fantasy yet and have that adventure to go on.
It's magic. I wish you years of joy.
Then you can join the rest of us waiting nearly ten years for Patrick Rothfuss to release Doors of Stone and the same ten years for Scott Lynch to release The Thorn of Emberlain.
What have you enjoyed so far? (If you don't mind my asking?)
@@bobdrooples I've read some basics (Harry Potter, the Inheritance Cycle, Narnia, Many Cosmere Novels,...etc). Thanks for the recommendations; I'll be sure to check them out! Waiting is the worst part of reading current series for sure
I think it is the saddest thing when an author takes so long to release the next book in a series. But it is just as sad to think that commercial considerations force authors to rush the writing of further books in a series. I love reading and savouring a well-written book, but am just as happy with the fact that the world has discovered the classics in this genre through the lens of the movies or television series. Love to share those richly imagined worlds with others.
Perfect. I have been looking for a new author to explore and I am an absolute fantasy fanatic. I will absolutely try him out.
Terrific! If you'd like suggestions for where to start reading his novels, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) that briefly reviews and ranks his books. I hope you enjoy them as much as I do. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I watch no youtube videos about fiction, literary works, libraries, reading, writing, composition, grammer, literature etc. yet youtube randomly posted this while I was scrolling.... I think I am gonna read this guy’s works now.
Great stuff!!
I think there's a good reason why this video has done so well as lots of people are desperate to find other Fantasy book series that can be on some level like Tolkiens or GRRM's books.
I think this video has done a great service in providing another recommendation for another series of books thats unique in itself and most importantly (to a certain degree) hasn't been made into a film or TV media franchise......not yet any way :)
Please forgive the previous comment I made, as that was for the MIchael Moorcock video ha
Thanks! It's remarkable how much the fantasy genre has grown in popularity over the past 30 years or so, particularly when compared to the relative decline of science fiction's popularity. Fantasy authors began aggressively reinventing and expanding the genre in the late 1980s as a way of overcoming the stagnation induced by D&D-inspired books and Tolkien's many imitators up to that point. And fantasy continues to push beyond traditional boundaries, particularly as it expands its exploration of the lore, mythologies and histories of non-Western European cultures. Kay's Moorish-inspired 'The Lions of Al-Rassan' and Chinese-inspired 'Under Heaven' were early and notable examples of that cultural expansion.
1. First time hearing about this author (and I'm Canadian! So that's a little embarrassing) and now I'm interested due to your recommendation
2. Sir, I would LOVE to listen to anything you read out loud as an audio book
Wonderful and thank you! If you'd like suggestions about where to start reading Kay, I have a spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) that briefly reviews and tier ranks his novels.
I am so happy I found this video! I now have a new author to check out. I'm going right to your ranking list video next!
Thanks! I hope you enjoy the video and Kay's books.
Yes! Finally! My all time favourite author. The Tapestry makes me cry everytime I read it. And so...
I know, right? 'Tigana' , 'A Song for Arbonne' also make me weep.
Just discovered you channel and LOVE it! Hope you do a series on malazan
Thanks! At some point, I'm sure I will.
At first, when I heard that you were not voting Erikson, I was a bit disappointed, but once I saw where you are going with it, I found myself agreeing with you.
Thanks! Erikson might someday surpass Kay in my ranking, but first I need to finish reading his Malazan series.
Erikson is a mess.
@@linjicakonikon7666 have you read book of the fallen in it's entirety or one of those people who gave up halfway throughout Gardens? Erikson is a genius. completely in awe of the man
Thank you very much for this insightful video. I have been looking for a reliable and unbiased source of information on fantasy authors and their work for a long time.
Thank you! Although I can't claim to be completely unbiased (after all, opinions are inherently subjective), I am striving to be a reliable, balanced and objective source of information about authors and books that don't typically receive a lot of attention here on BookTube. :)
Thank you for having a good reason for discounting Susanna Clarke. I feel like, when judged as pieces of literature, Johnathan Strange and Mr Norell stands above all other recent fantasy. And respect for the G.G. Kay choice, I always suggest him to people who want fantasy that is dark but doesn't have that weird fetishy torture fantasy fulfillment quality that George RR Martin has.
Thanks! I think Jonathan Strange and Piranesi are truly remarkable books, but Clarke needs to write more books before I can consider her for the top spot. :)
You’ve inspired me to check out Guy Gabriel Kay’s books!📚
I'm a definite bibliophile.
I'm not typically looking at youtube for anything book related, but you popped up in my suggestions.
I'm glad to have a new author to discover... and I'm looking forward to exploring your channel further. You must know this already, but your voice is amazing!
Thank you! If you'd like suggestions for where to start reading Kay's novels, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) that briefly reviews and ranks his books. Thanks for watching and commenting!
What a wonderful, soothing, and warm voice. I'd come back solely for that.
GGK has been my favorite author for a long time. He deserves much more recognition. Thanks!
I'm glad you enjoyed the video (and GGK as well)! Thanks!
If he doesn't apply to read books for Audible, he's missing a golden opportunity.
Sir it is a crime that you only have 1.800 subscriber, incredible presentation and narration, so soothing!
Thanks for your words of encouragement!
Couldn’t agree more! Kay is a world treasure!
Great video! I added Tigana to the top of my audible queue. I can't wait to start it.
I watch no youtube videos about fiction, nonfiction, literary works, libraries, reading, writing, composition, grammar, literature etc. yet youtube randomly recommended this... I am gonna read this guy’s works now.
RUclips's algorithm works in mysterious ways. :)
Thanks for taking the plunge and watching the video! I hope you enjoy reading Kay.
I am intrigued. I have been searching for an author who can balance character development and plot. And, as per your video Mr. Kay seems a remarkable fit!
Kay fits your criteria very well and doesn't require a lengthy investment of time reading multi-book series to fully enjoy. As entry points to reading his novels, I recommend A Song for Arbonne and A Brightness Long Ago, both of which have strong protagonists and great pacing. For more suggestions, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video that briefly reviews and ranks his books. Thanks for watching and commenting!
My first encounter with his work was The Fionavar Tapestry. I was blown away. He and Pratchett have a unique way of creating characters so unique and complete, they each seem to be written by a different writer 👌
This is a slightly modified re-upload of a video I made in January 2022. Due to (valid) complaints about the audio mix in that video, I've improved the audio in this new version and addressed a couple of visual elements that needed fixing. Otherwise, the content of this video is the same as the original's.
I thought I recognized this content.... I like and appreciate going back and updating or redoing your previous videos, but don't take folks complaints too much to heart, your content is a step above. can't wait to see more. do you have any thoughts on literary awards?
the Secret Sauce of Storycraft Thanks! I decided to fix it because I had the same frustrations as many viewers. Unfortunately, I realized it needed fixing only after the video had started getting traction on YT. I was reluctant to replace it early on, out of concern it might derail my (at the time) tiny channel's standing in YT's algorithm. However, I felt like I owed it to GGK to do a better job, so I've been determined to correct the flaws in the original video.
I won't be making a habit of this, though. It wasn't easy pulling the plug (figuratively) on my most popular video that still drives traffic and subscriptions almost six months after I posted it. My hope is that the algorithm will allow a seamless transition from the old version to the updated one.
My thoughts on literary awards in general are that they're only as good as the preferences, biases and ranges of experience of voters who select them (as well as the incentive structures surrounding the voting). I find the finalist lists for book awards to be useful in identifying potentially good reading material, but even then, the nominated books or short stories often are hit-or-miss for me, and at least half the time, the chosen winner is a real head-scratcher, given the (IMO better) competition it was up against.
Also, I tend to read newer books at least 2-3 years after publication (and after the initial marketing hype and award lobbying has subsided, when more measured and unbiased reviews can be found), so I usually have no opinion on most award finalists during their nomination year.
guessing you're not gonna pick jin yong
@@atomictraveller If he were still alive, he’d be a viable contender (although it’s difficult with translated books to know how much credit (or blame) to assign to the translator instead of the author).
I've never heard of this author. Seeing as you mentioned pretty much all of my favorites, I won't need to hesitate on picking him up. Thanks for bringing this guy forward!
You're welcome! If you want suggestions for where to start reading his novels, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) that briefly reviews and tier ranks his books. I hope you enjoy his books as much as I do.
Wow! I just subscribed at your channel because it is the first time I see a video talking about Guy Gabriel Kay and praising his work. I love this author and read all his books. His writing style is beautiful. Every one of his books made me cry because the way it was written.
Thank you! I've shed a few tears myself over his books. They're truly rewarding reads.
I will be doing the same! I’ve never understood why people don’t know him. Absolutely fantastic author.
Great video and channel, thank you! GGK is my favorite as well, alongside Tad Williams. (Looking forward to your video about him) A song for Arbonne is my favorite, but Lions is also a very close second. Have yet to try his newer work, must get on it soon. :)
Thanks! Tad Williams is one of my favorites as well. In fact, I'm planning a video about his books that I hope to upload next month.
What a joy that I found this on my birthday and was only released a day before. I can't wait to start down this reading rabbit hole.
And a very enjoyable rabbit hole it is. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat. It's much more like a hobbit-hole, and that means comfort. Happy birthday!
I'm glad you've praised Kay. I've loved every one I've read and will read the rest after watching your videos on his books.
Thanks! I hope you enjoy the rest of his books.
In 13 minutes I went from not hearing about the author before to wanting to read all of his books. Thank you.
Wonderful! I have an earlier video in which I tier rank his novels, if you’d like suggestions on where to start. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Wow, you’ve got an outstanding gift for making every book you discuss sound like the most incredible thing I’ll ever read!
Thanks! The fact that GGK writes truly incredible books makes it a lot easier. :)
Thanks, I constantly look for fantasy and I'm always getting the same ones. Their good don't get me wrong but I think its great to see a lesser known author with truly great work.
Thanks! I’m trying to highlight many of those lesser known or overlooked authors and works in the fantasy genre as well as other genres with this channel.
my guy, you have the best voice out there, fs, great video, can't wait to try this author out
I appreciate your kind words! If you'd like suggestions on where to start reading Kay's novels, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video that briefly reviews and tier ranks his books (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html).
I owe you big thanks for the recommendation. I had never even heard about G. G. Kay before watching this video (yes, what a shame). Although it has come at a cost in the form of several sleepless nights -- I was simply unable to stop reading. ;-)
Wonderful! I hope you can catch up on your sleep soon. :)
i am about to dive into his works as well, which book did you think best so far?
@@danielw8620 I have a spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) that briefly reviews and tier ranks Kay's novels if you'd like suggestions for where to starting reading him.
@@thelibraryladder just watched it, awesome, look forward to checking out his work. I will probably start with Lions and if i like that I have no problem going to his "lesser regarded" works, but I figure I should start with 1 of his masterpieces to see if it is worth it to dive into his catalogue of work, great videos!
Loved your well elaborated analysis, your arguments and your voice! I didn't know the autor and I am buying one of his books right now thanks to you!
Thanks! Before you do so, you might watch my earlier, spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) in which I briefly review and rank his books. It might help you decide which book to start with.
Stephen R. Donaldson, Guy Gavriel Kay, Tad Williams, Steven Erikson. Those are the top 4.
All very defensible choices in my opinion.
You, sir, have convinced me to read from a new author. I'm excited for what I'll find in Kay's works.
Wonderful! If you'd like suggestions for where to start reading his novels, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) that briefly reviews and ranks his books. I generally recommend starting with A Song for Arbonne or A Brightness Long Ago, due to their strong protagonists and very good pacing, but there are other good candidates as well. I hope you enjoy his books as much as I do!
@@thelibraryladder I'll go over the list in my spare time, but given your description of his works on this video, I have a strong feeling that Mr. Kay will likely end up becoming one of my favorites. I'm real glad the algorithm recommend your video to me.
Well said, I agree totally that he is a much under appreciated author - I have all his novels, pretty much as they were released. And he almost never gets mentioned when people speak about The Silmarillion, which is a huge 'ignore'.
If you asked me to name my individual favourite of his books, I doubt I could answer as they are all so enjoyable but in differing ways, the only one that I would exclude, would be the last book of the Fionavar Tapestry; which I thought didn't rise to the writing or story standard of the first 2 of the series and all subsequent books.
(another under rated author, IMO, although now dead, is David Gemell).
Thanks for your great comment! I completely agree about David Gemmell. His Drenai series is terrific.
A friend recommended Fiavonar Tapestry and it sits on my shelf in wait, but your video has certainly launched it closer to the top of my TBR. I have a few series to finish out or read some more on, but I'll make sure to tackle it soon. Your description makes it sound right up my alley. Your assertion about fantasy being padded out (I'd argue also oversaturated) speaks to me. It makes it painful to commit to anything new in the genre, which is why I've shifted to scifi a bit more lately.
Thanks! Oversaturated is a good descriptor. There are so many good-but-not-great fantasy books (and book series) being published these days that it's becoming difficult to distinguish them from one another (and from the earlier books they're imitating).
Although I think highly of the Fionavar trilogy, I don't generally recommend it as a starting point for reading Kay. It was his debut work, and it shows in some places, particularly in the first book, which has several noteworthy weaknesses. I think his A Song for Arbonne and A Brightness Long Ago make better entry points to his novels. And if you'd like more suggestions, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video that briefly reviews and tier ranks his books.
@@thelibraryladder I'll add those to the list, though since I have access to it, I'll still check out Fiovanar, but everything I've heard about Kay, even before this video, has been stellar!
Totally agree with your choice. Beautiful writing; engaging stories; deeply felt emotions. Every book resonates.
Thanks for sharing!
The music is making me very anxious, but I stayed and pushed through because I wanted to hear the content. I will give this author a try and thank you for the recommendation
Thanks! I'm sorry the music didn't agree with you. If you'd like suggestions for where to start reading Kay, I have a spoiler-free video (with less stressful music) that briefly reviews and ranks his novels. (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html)
@@thelibraryladder awesome! Thank you for that, too
I'd never even heard of the guy but I will most definitely check some of his books out as I just looked up a sample of his prose and it's very much to my liking - thanks for the recommendation!
You're very welcome! If you'd like suggestions for where to start with reading his books, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video that briefly reviews and tier ranks his novels.
GGK is so entertaining and engrossing. I’ve read his earlier works like the Fionovar Tapestry, Tigana, Lions of Al-Rassan, and Song for Arbonne. I need to catch up with his later works. Great stuff!
I completely agree. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I was so taken aback by your amazing voice, I completely missed the first part of the video XD
Thanks! Feel free to watch it again to find out what you missed. :)
So nice to have someone speaking at a normal rate instead of gabbling way too fast
@@dawnmoriarty9347 Thank you! I try to keep things moving at a reasonable pace, but my natural rate of speech is a little on the slow side, so I’m aiming for a happy medium.
AWWWW man, Thank you so much for doing this video as Ive been dying for someone to cover Michael Moorcock and I ve learnt a lot more from you in this video :)
thank you again and hope we'll see more :)
Thanks! I've done two Moorcock videos so far and I hope to have the next one in his Eternal Champion series up later this month.
@@thelibraryladder I've just realised that this comment is on the wrong video hahaha. please forgive as I was meant to post this on the Michael Moorcock video you did. what an epic fail on my part :). I'm gona repost it now on the video it should be on
Glad to find this channel. Sounds like a highly well produced audiobook. Damn your voice over skills make me jealous. Along with the music. Nuts.
Thank you and welcome aboard!
Okay, so, the title popped-up on the right side "[UPDATED] This Fantasy Author Deserves Far More Recognition and Acclaim" and I just had to check it out!
TBH, I was aware of GGK, as I worked for various book retailers in the 80's & 90's, but never read any of his work. Now, I'm very intrigued! However, the thing in this video that made me *the happiest* was your saying it's perfect for people who are into audiobooks! I have vision issues after a massive 2016 stroke, so audiobooks are easiest for me (though, I do use a Kindle, too).
I'm going to watch your other GGK video for your ranking, but have already decided Tigana will be my first foray into his works, as it came highly recommended from others! Many thanks, and yes, I have subscribed!
P.S. To answer your question as to WHY GGK's books aren't more popular, I think your assessment that people prefer *series* in Fantasy novels is spot on.
Now, in the Mystery genre, you had Dick Francis churning out unrelated horse racing novels for decades; in fiction, Clive Cussler, or Robin Cook. However, when I think of SF/F, I have difficulty in naming successful single / stand alone Fantasy authors - at least modern ones. Old school guys in SF like James Blish, Clifford D. Simak, Poul Anderson, Ray Bradbury, Robert Silverberg and Robert Heinlein made their living that way, though (can you tell whom I grew-up reading / loving?).
Thanks for your very engaging comment! It sounds like we have a lot of reading interests in common, and I intend to make videos about several of the authors you mentioned.
Regarding GGK, I generally don't recommend Tigana as a starting point for readers, although it's probably his best-known book. I think highly of it, but elements of the book can be problematic for some readers. Instead, I usually recommend A Song for Arbonne or A Brightness Long Ago as great entry points, but there are many other terrific choices as well. I hope that's helpful.
Guy Gavriel Kay and Lois McMaster Bujold are my two picks for (Authors That Deserves Far More Recognition and Acclaim), only found out about Kay thanks to your video, it's sad how underlooked he is even among fantasy fans.
I'm so glad I was able to introduce you to Kay's novels. Bujold is another underappreciated author. I wonder if she's overlooked sometimes because she writes in both the science fiction and fantasy genres, leading people not to associate her with either genre.
I don’t like historic fantasy but I’ll give him one chance ☝️
@@LvUhcX Thanks for keeping an open mind about Kay’s books. In another video, I tier rank his novels, which might help you decide which book to start with. I’d suggest not starting with Tigana. A Song for Arbonne and A Brightness Long Ago are better entry points, in my opinion. Thanks for watching!
I don't like historic novels in general but Kay's historic fantasies are an exception. I think his reputation is not as great as it might be because the whole of 'The Fianovar Tapestry' feels very sub-LotR. He does ring the changes; I never expected the second book to take the turn into an entirely different mythos and who else but Kay could manage to take two wildly different sources of said legends and make that merging entirely believable. Also, the ending always makes me cry, as does that of 'A Song for Arbonne'. There is a link through all his books to Fianovar, and to a fantasy trope based vaguely on Plato's Doctrine of Forms. See C.S. Lewis's Narnia books, Roger Zelazny's Amber series and Philip Jose Farmer's 'World of Tiers series for other examples,
Great comment! I hadn't thought of that connection to Plato, but I can see how it fits. Neal Stephenson is another author who applies a version of the Doctrine of Forms in some of his books (and quite explicitly in his science fiction/science fantasy novel Anathem). Thanks!
I queued this video out of curiosity as to who your choice for this honor would be and whether I had read them. The answer to the first question delighted me. I first discovered Kay shortly after the publication of The Summer Tree, which I found in a used bookstore. I eagerly awaited and avidly devoured the second and third books of The Fionavar Tapestry and haunted libraries and bookstores in search of further offerings. I understand now why these were so thin on the ground. Finding other fantasy authors in the course of my search for more of Kay's work, I drifted away from the "K" section of the bookshelves. Thank you so much for reminding me to go back, with so many books awaiting me!
Wonderful! I'm so glad you plan to revisit him. If you'd like suggestions, I have an earlier video in which I tier rank his novels.
Also, I don't recommend starting with Tigana, as certain aspects of it can be a little problematic for some readers. Instead, I recommend A Brightness Long Ago and A Song for Arbonne as great entry points. I hope that's helpful!
@@thelibraryladder , thank you so much!
I started watching this video with trepidation, but all of my fears were washed away once you said the word "Canadian" and I knew where this road was leading ;) As luck would have it I am blessed to be in the middle of a reread of Under Heaven. You have earned this like and subscribe.
Thanks!
Your velvety narration alone deserves a subscribe.
Thanks!
Hearing about this author for the first time.. Lucky that this video got recommended.. Ordered A Song for Arbonne right away.. :)
Thank you for recommending this. That another video you had posted reviewing each of Guy Gavriel Kay's book was also quite helpful to know where to start for a new reader.
Looking forward to more book reviews from you..
Thank you! I'm very glad you found both GGK videos helpful. I have plenty more book review videos to come.
Thank you so much for highlighting this author. These are very enjoyable books that I almost certainly would have missed had I not come across your essay. I really hope that work like yours spreads far and wide to give Kay more exposure to readers. Personally the thing I'm enjoying most about his books so far is how carefully considered the stories, characters and writing is.
Thank you! I think the extra time Kay puts into writing his books (3-4 years per book) really shows up in the quality of his storytelling.
He is, and has been for years, my favorite fantasy author. But I have had to stop reading him, as even he can become redundant if you read him in large doses for too long. You begin to pick up on his prose style. I could probably even satirize it:
"Giordani stared out at the falling golden leaves and thought back to his family, to a world unto itself, to a parent's love and a lovers' passion, to times spent together singing songs beneath the orchard boughs, to times long gone. All leaves fall. Life was yet another."
[chuckle] I agree that bingeing his works could become a little exhausting. He’s a fantastic palate cleanser after reading other authors, though. Thanks for commenting!
So he's a bit of a flowery prose author? A bit poetic?
@@SysterYster Yes, but not in a heavily verbose sense. His prose is clean, but languid. It is simple, yet profound. He will allow a character to stay in the moment long enough to drop some profound insight. This is wonderful and romantic and melancholic and human all at the same time, but it can become too much. I love GGK, trust me. But the prosaic meanderings punctuated by philosophical zingers can get old when it happens too often.
I like to think of him as the antithesis to Martin. Whereas ol' Georgie clearly thinks the worst of humanity, GGK shows humanity just as flawed, just as selfish, just as dark and traitorous and destructive, but unlike G.R.R. Martin, GGK adds an ellipsis to the end of that misanthropic conclusion:
"... And often for the deepest and tragically human of reasons." It isn't hopeful, per se. But it isn't as nihilistically bleak as Martin. It is sad, and relatable.
Gosh, now I need to get around to reading his latest book. Cheers!
@@brendanpeters655 Yeah, some beautiful and/or poetic descriptions or thoughts to deepen characters are fine, it's when it gets too much or too often that I get bored by it, or taken out of the story.
I love the way GRRM describes things though, and the pacing of his writing. Regardless of how positive or negative it is. I don't like when things are too slow, at least not for too long. But I also usually prefer more positive and happy stories than say, grimdark. GRRM isn't grimdark though, just a bit dark. :)
lol, I'm gonna check him out. But gotta finish Lightbringer first. Very good series, btw. :) Cheers!
Thanks to the RUclips algorithm for sending me your way! I've just recently been going through a total re-read of GGK's books and I'm kicking myself for somehow missing A Brightness Long Ago. Sounds like All the Seas of the World would have been more enjoyable if I'd read Brightness first.
You mention Joe Abercrombie in the very beginning of this video. He would be my personal pick for Best Fantasy Novelist of All Time. I would LOVE a video ranking his books, or just to hear your opinions on his work.
I'll be waiting for your videos to come up in my subscriptions!
Thank you! That's unfortunate that you missed A Brightness Long Ago, both because it's one of his best (I typically recommend it as one of the best entry points for newcomers to Kay's novels), and because it really is essential to fully appreciate his most recent book.
I think very highly of Abercrombie and have greatly enjoyed most of his books (with only a couple of exceptions). I might eventually make a video about him, but it probably won't be for a while. Most of my focus in this channel is on authors and books that don't get a lot of attention on RUclips -- from the older classics in various genres, to the modern classics that often are overlooked. I hope you enjoy my videos and are inspired by them to try authors and books that are a little different than your usual fare (which is my goal with this channel). Thanks again!
H. Rider Haggard has been the Greatest discovery of my later years. He's the "Grandaddy of 'em all". His best books are buried by "She" and so forth, but if you want to find out what really great writing is then Start with "Marie" and try to read them in the chronological order of the stories themselves, not the order they were written. Allan Quartermain is one of the Greatest Voices in all of Literature and many, like Kipling & Edgar Rice Burroughs, borrowed copiously from Rider Haggard.
Thanks for your comment! I agree that Haggard had a huge influence on early speculative fiction and on adventure fiction more broadly. He really knew how to tell a story well. I have his entire collected works (although I've read only about a third of them so far), and I intend to make a video about them and their influence on other authors at some point.
Your channel deserves far more recognition and acclaim!
Thank you! I'm thrilled at how quickly the channel has grown over the past few months. I plan to keep producing more videos like the ones I've been making.
As soon as I saw the title of the video, my mind went to GGK. I've been avidly reading his books since the 80s and I enthusiastically await each new novel. I'd be hard pressed to pick a favorite. Having attended some of his readings at book launch events, I can attest he is gracious and witty in person. Definitely deserving of more recognition.
Thanks for your comment! Kay is someone I think I would enjoy having as a dinner guest. I imagine the conversation would be fascinating.
He was on my to read list, but I was not really aware of him or his quality of books. Definitely a lot higher on my list now! I am going to give the audiobook a try.
Wonderful! For suggestions on where to start reading Kay's novels, I have a spoiler-free video from about six months ago that briefly reviews and tier ranks his books (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html).
Great narration
Thanks!
I sure am glad this showed up in my feed, I was looking for some stand alone novels and look forward to exploring his works.
I'm happy for the fortuitous timing! I have an earlier, spoiler-free video in which I briefly review and tier rank his novels, if you'd like suggestions on where to start. A Song for Arbonne and A Brightness Long Ago are great entry points, in my opinion. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@thelibraryladder excellent, I ordered both that and Tigana for an upcoming vacation.
I've long considered GGK my favorite author of books published as Fantasy. This video mirrors my thoughts on Kay and his output pretty much to the nth degree. This being my first exposure to your channel, I've not yet watched the followup ranking video, but based on your Comments replies suspect we pretty much agree there too.
Thanks! Let me know what you think after you've watched my tier ranking video.
Wonderful video. Hoping to start another of Kay's soon. I agree, its a wonder he hasn't received more recognition
Thank you, Kerry.
Watching, liking and commenting in hopes the algorithm shows some consideration for such an unique and insightful content like yours. Since I watched your first video on Kay, I added, well, potentially all of his work to my "To be read" list, but particularly the ones that caught my attention the most, like The Lions of Al-Rassan, The Fionavar Tapestry, and The Sarantine Mosaic.
Normally, I tend to favor series over standalones novels, but I can see the value and the necessary skill to craft a well-rounded story with its setting, characters and plot all contained in a single volume. I feel like I need to start adding those kinds of books to my repertoire, and GGK sounds like a really good option to begin. By yhe way, another author of whom I've recently heard of and that seems to share Kay's inclination to standalones is Patricia A. McKillip. Do you happen to be familiarized with her work?
Anyway, it's good to see your compromise to improve your videos and I sincerely hope you keep growing and your work reacher more people.
Thank you, Kay, for taking the time to watch and comment on the video again to help its relaunch. I hope RUclips's algorithm allows a seamless transition to the new version, because I heavily sabotaged the searchabiity of the old one in an effort to minimize viewer confusion.
You picked some great books to start reading Kay, although I'd suggest not beginning with Fionavar. It's well worth reading, but it's not very representative of most of his works.
McKillip (who recently passed away) was one of the big names in the emergence of the fantasy genre in the 1970s. Her writing style has some of the beautiful, lyrical qualities of GGK's prose, but I find her storytelling to be not quite as compelling (still good, nonetheless). I should note that I've only read some of her older classics, and not anything she wrote in the past 25 years or so (which I'd like to rectify).
@@thelibraryladder What drew my curiosity about McKillip's book was looking them up and seeing the beautiful cover art some of her books have. Still, my TBR list is somewhat long, so I guess her books can remain a little behind for now.
Thanks for responding!
Thank you for the recommendation! Just happened to find your channel, and now I'm subscribed.
Thanks! I'm glad you found the video helpful. I hope you find more here that you like.
I've only ever read The Lions of Al-Rassan, but that one book is enough for me to know Guy Gavriel Kay is criminally underrated. I really want to read Tigana now because it was the first book by him I ever saw anybody mention and since then it's haunted me by showing up on every "best fantasy ever" list I click on. This video reminded me of that.
I made another video in which I tier rank Kay’ novels. In my opinion, Tigana is excellent, but there are at least four other books by Kay that are even better (one of which you’ve already read). You might try A Song for Arbonne or Under Heaven instead of Tigana. Thanks for commenting!
@@thelibraryladder Tigana would be way down the list for me, with the understanding that the bottom of the list is really good. I think reading his books in published order is a good way to go. You never know which books will be your favourites.
From Wiki:
The Fionavar Tapestry, a portal fantasy in which five travel from our Earth to "the first of all worlds"
The Summer Tree (1984)
The Wandering Fire (1986), winner of the 1987 Prix Aurora Award[6]
The Darkest Road (1986)
Tigana (1990), taking place in a setting based on Renaissance Italy
A Song for Arbonne (1992), inspired by the Albigensian Crusade in medieval Provence
The Lions of Al-Rassan (1995), set in an analogue of medieval Spain
The Sarantine Mosaic, inspired by the Byzantium of Justinian I
Sailing to Sarantium (1998)
Lord of Emperors (2000)
The Last Light of the Sun (2004), inspired by the Viking invasions during the reign of Alfred the Great
Ysabel (2007), a contemporary fantasy set in Provence, centering on a teenage boy and his encounters with characters from the distant past. Linked to his Fionavar Tapestry series.
Under Heaven (April 27, 2010), inspired by the 8th century Tang Dynasty and the events leading up to the An Shi Rebellion
River of Stars (April 2, 2013), taking place in the same setting as Under Heaven, based on the 12th century Song Dynasty and the events around the Jin-Song Wars and the transition from Northern Song to Southern Song
Children of Earth and Sky (May 10, 2016), taking place in the same world as The Lions of Al-Rassan, The Sarantine Mosaic, and The Last Light of the Sun, and taking place in a world based on Italy, Istanbul and the Balkans in the 15th century
A Brightness Long Ago (May 14, 2019), prequel to Children of Earth and Sky[7]
All the Seas of the World (May 17, 2022)
@@rdh-daliasjb3796 If you haven’t already watched it, you might find my companion video that tier ranks Kay’s novels useful for choosing a starting point. I generally don’t recommend starting chronologically with Fionavar and Tigana, although publication order works fine for his other books. Fionavar isn’t representative of the rest of his works, while Tigana has a few elements that can be off-putting to some readers.
@@thelibraryladder Just watched and enjoyed it! I would probably have only four categories: Loved it - Re-read over and over; Really liked it - Re-read; Okay - Maybe, but not likely, re-read if in the mood; The bin for everythink else no matter how good or bad. Loved it category: The Fionavar trilogy; The Lions of Al-Rassan; The Sarantine Mosaic; Under Heaven; River of Stars; A Song For Arbonne.
I only read the Fionavar Tapestry once, long ago, and that was all I needed to convince me he was at least the equal of Tolkien. It was brilliant and beautiful. I recommend it to people all the time, and no one's ever heard of him. I think it's criminal, especially considering his role in the Silmarillion. Sometimes I don't think those Tolkien nerds know as much as they think they do...
Even before you said his name I knew. The man is a master storyteller. His way with words (prose) is 2nd to none in the fantasy genre.
I've recently listened to Tigana and Sailing to Sarantium. I'm nearly finished with Lord of Emperors and dear me. The emotional punch his books pack is wild. Appreciate the video.
Thanks! I'm so glad you're enjoying reading Kay. I think the emotional wallop his books tend to pack is incredible.
i am inspired to search out his books. I love science fiction but i have never heard of him. Great review.
Thank you. That’s exactly what I hoped to accomplish with the video - make more people aware of Kay and interested in reading his works.
I made another video in February that ranks his books, if you want suggestions of where to start.
Sounds amazing thanks for the recommendation
Great! If you'd like suggestions for where to start reading Kay's novels, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html) that briefly reviews and tier ranks his books. Thanks for watching!
@@thelibraryladder Thank you I'll be sure to check it out, great content!
The library ladder, you should do voice work. Like audio books reading the greatest fantasy novels.
Thank you! Recently, I've been thinking about narrating some classic stories and uploading them as audiobooks here on RUclips.
Based on this video, I went and read The Lions of al-Rassan. Wow. So impressed, and such an enjoyable read. I'm looking forwards to reading is other books.
Thanks for sharing! I’m so glad you enjoyed it. A Song for Arbonne and A Brightness Long Ago are two more great entry points to Kay’s novels.
Thanks for posting this. Agree wholeheartedly. Kay should be recognized in Canada as a national treasure, and outside Canada as, you say, the best fantasy writer in the world today. I believe he is recognized among his peers - I heard a lecture by Brandon Sanderson in which he claimed that all fantasy writers were just trying to be Guy Gavriel Kay. That's some high praise, anyway.
That sounds like an apt quote from Sanderson. Thanks for sharing!
@@thelibraryladder btw, have you ever considered being an audiobook reader? You have the voice for it
Your voice is incredible. I may watch more videos from your channel just because of it!
Thank you! I hope you enjoy my other videos.
Damn, I was hoping for a really cool writer I hadn't read, but instead it was a really cool author I had read. GGK is exceptionally good, always feels magical reading his books. Rothfuss and Clarke are also exceptional but are unlikely to catch up in body of work size... All in all, it seems my tastes align with yours, will certainly look at other recommendations you make!
Thanks for watching and sharing! I hope you enjoy my other book recommendations (in the videos I've already made, and in the ones to come).
I watched this video in the spring and thanks to your eloquent endorsment I read my first GGK book: Sailing to Sarantium. It will not be my last, as I have already bought Tigana.
Wonderful! I hope you meant the Sarantine Mosaic. It's a duology, of which Sailing to Sarantium is the first half. You definitely should read the second book, Lord of Emperors, before moving on to another Kay book. :)
Kudos for Kay!
I remember when I first encountered his writing. I was given all 3 of The Fionavar Tapestry for Christmas 1989. Best gift. Once I started I was immersed in their world and lifes and didn't come up for breath until the end.
I feel that way about nearly all of Kay’s books. Thanks for sharing!
I love those books. I genuinely wept in a couple of places
@@dawnmoriarty9347 I'm and avid rereader, so its a high compliment when i absolutely loved Tigana after my first read, but couldnt pick it up again for years after because its so heartbreaking.
Great analysis, this made me want to reread Tigana again. It's such a breathtaking book, full of profound themes but also very readable with compelling and likeable characters. And feelings. Oh god so many feelings. Also, I just wanted to say that your voice is very soothing and pleasant.
Thank you, and enjoy the reread!
You couldn't accuse Martin of still writing
With this voice and production value you should have more subs! Well Done and Thank you.
Thank you! 😃
In defense of long multi-volumed fantasy series: you absolutely cannot make some moments like The Battle of Dumai's Wells (Wheel of Time) without the context and build up of 6 books combined. You cannot make that absolutely gigantic moment of pay-off in just 1 book, simply because you can't create the many factions, cultures, characters and different magic systems that collide in that moment in Jordan's fantasy in the page-count of a single book. Same with The Red Wedding in A Song of Ice and Fire. You need the context of 2 entire books to understand the severity of the situation.
I'm absolutely aware I've put two examples from series that have been critizised of padding, and yeah, some subplots in The Wheel of Time 's middle books didn't deserved that much attention, but at the same time I'm currently reading the last book of the series and I can't imagine some of the best parts of that book without the tremendous build up the so-called ''Slog'' did.
Having the ability to make great stand-alone books is great. But creating a long series has its strong points and benefits too.
I completely agree with your comment. Standalones and series are distinct creations, and I enjoy both types, including the two series you mentioned. I just wish more fantasy authors would choose to write an occasional standalone, rather than forcing readers to invest significant time in a series that might take years to finish and could ultimately be a disappointment. Thanks for commenting!
@@thelibraryladder thanks to you for the great content!
I've heard of Guy before but I haven't read any of his work, you have indeed inspired me to do so. Glad this popped up in my recommended, I've subscribed.
Thank you! If you'd like suggestions about where to start reading Kay's novels, I have an earlier, spoiler-free video that briefly reviews and ranks his books (ruclips.net/video/WoFYvjIDaCM/видео.html).