Depends. Do you really expect a failing organization to support what's not working and not try to do something to turn things around? Maybe they handled it poorly - people deserve to be treated respectfully, but no one is entitled to have or keep a job anywhere.
@@thefalconmctalon6011 He is just so genuine it feels like. I don’t even watch his videos much anymore, but when I do I swear he hasn’t changed much and it works!
She wasn't being harassed, people were complaining about her being signed over other people who had been trying for years just because she was already famous
@Stvy14 if you believe the internet hasn't harassed her based on the backlash you need a wake up check, gamers are toxic af if one person is saying "oh I wish they singed some one else" there's atleast 10 people letting her to die 😂
but what the fuck did she expect? like she literally got offered to join an org simply because she was a gamer girl that was an actor, and her whole point was to make the scene less sexist when her gender was the entire reason she was part of the scene in the first place...
Ah a tale as old as time: founders sell to corporate investors for decisive control and then the corporate investors kill it cause they are creatively incompetent.
@@peaceweapon1933 Yeah I understand that, I'm just saying he claims they didn't sell any of their shares. He never explains how it happened though which seems like BS.
@@ToddDobbins I wouldn't trust a FaZe member as far as I could throw them. They might be technically telling the truth that they didn't sell any of their shares. But there are other ways to get compensation. Maybe the traded them, maybe they gambled them away...the only people who knows are the ones who signed the contract. All we know is that they don't have control of their company/brand anymore.
It's not about her ruining everything. Faze management is definitely to blame but as a content creator, she should've done her due diligence about the company and all the issues it had before joining it. It wasn't hard to tell that something like this would happen.
@@sharansukesh6542 Her due diligence in regards to what? She should have predicted that she would be the target of a misogynistic hate campaign bc the company is bad with money?
@@botanicalitus4194 Nothing of this has to do with misogyny. What are you even saying? The reason people are mad is because they didn't hire other female gamers who've been grinding and are amazing at the game. People were excited to see which female in the space they would hire and were disappointed that it was someone who only just got into the gaming scene but was famous. Also, yes, it wasn't hard to predict that something like this could happen when the founders and management of a company are constantly and publicly going back and forth. All the faze clan OGs called out faze giving people like snoop dog a large amount of shares in Faze when he was never even a contributing member or in the gaming space.
@Bonotany I actually haven't seen any misogynistic comments towards her on Twitter yet. Most people who were accused of misogyny clearly stated that they have nothing against her but she wasn't an ideal faze recruit(shes got 0 skills, 0 content just screams on her streams). The reason she's the target is cause she's out there, unlike the faze management who don't show their face or names, so someone must be held accountable and they targeted her.(which is sad)
i love hearing charlie describe this stuff happening, especially when he starts a video with "you've probably seen the drama" and i have no idea what he's talking about
I always viewed FaZe as more of a cultural staple on gaming but in my opinion their time as an org has long since passed. Even back in the day I cared more about individual members than the clan as a whole.
When prime COD started dying and Fortnite went more downhill Faze should’ve sold. I always find it funny seeing faze things because I totally forgot they existed
Watching FaZe become a money hungry corporation and destroy everything they stood for is honestly heartbreaking. At the end of the day, FaZe would not be where it is today without the OG’s. Leaving them in the dark (Rain, Teeqo, Blaze etc.) while they openly ridicule their every move is like watching a rebellious teen argue with their parents.
Maybe he will stand for what he says next... He's effing deleting comments calling him out for the Idubbz video. I can't even mention d4ng3l0 Wall4c3 without my comment being deleted.
O my god I remember those days all my friends wanted to be in faze and i just never understood why lol I was always that guy who would kill people boosting or trying to set up 360
really, i feel like most gamers or atleast people who were around the age of the OG faze memebrs thought they were the cringiest.... like id expect them to be popular(w/ children) but i also expected them to sell out like they did AND let us not act like we are suprised by bad business decisions(like i said, sellouts).... you must of been young if you thought faze was cool then.
i feel like people around her should have let her know to stay farrrr away from faze if she joined otv or even got signed by ludwig or toast it would have been much more positive faze is a huge gamble considering all past owners love drama and scams and drugs
@@DirtyRobohobo Because human greed isn't a conspiracy. When the original owners give up control to people who want money, they will only want money. It's really simple, their goals don't align. Same thing happened to even Star Wars. Hollywood hated Star Wars it's entire existence, saw it made a fuck-ton of money, offered Lucas a fuck-ton of money, and tried to make a fuck-ton of money off of it. Lucas, for all his faults, genuinely wanted to make movies because he liked to, Hollywood makes them for money. Then you wonder why the world's most successful indie space film series fails in the hands of suits. Then take all your favorite gaming companies. Almost every single "classic" company was made by passionate people who genuinely loved what they did, then people who made money for a living started to take over, then money became the passion. Go back in history to government changes, people who passionately want to lead the country into prosperity start making too many deal with the ones with money... happened to literally every single culture ever. Every single religion has experienced this at some point. Human greed destroys human passion. No conspiracy needed.
@@DirtyRobohobo short hedgies get bad board members on board and they drive the company into the ground meanwhile shorting the living crap out of it. Once the stock gets delisted the shorts pay 0 taxes and then it’s on to the next. No tinfoil needed it’s the truth!
For me personally, it's hard to take any of the Faze OG's seriously as they willingly handed over the company they built to out of touch executives who have no idea how the gaming space operates and are now complaining about those executives. Not to mention all of the scams that members such as Banks have committed that makes me pretty confident that the company wouldn't be any better in their hands.
You clearly haven't heard about the history of FaZe clan, or the fact that these were teenagers who basically built a business and were used by execs when they didn't know how to run a business
After the Save the Kids scandal, it’s hard for me to take any of the members seriously. Even watching Rain’s exposure video here, there’s a *big* part of me wondering if it’s all fake just like with Save the Kids.
To be fair, it sounds like they didn't know any better and got taken advantage of by a person that sweet-talked all of them into trusting him, much like the early days of what I heard happened to a lot of youtubers that got signed into contracts they couldn't leave without tremendous effort that stole enormous amounts of money from you. If you're going to blame them, might as well blame every poor soul on RUclips that got sweet-talked by a company ever. Everyone has to get burned once, especially if it's about money, it's a matter if you can recover from it.
I don’t. They clearly don’t give a fuck about there fans they just want money and to show it off there pathetic ppl once u actually grow up and can see em for what they are. Expect for that short mf wit the beard he was always coo
I started watching rain back when he was in his mom’s basement hitting 720 instaswaps. I was 13 back then and I recently turned 23. I can now say I have legitimately been watching Rain for over a decade, and I love how you always keep it real. Nobody else would expose their own company so hard purely out of love for doing what’s right. Massive respect to you man!
I was going to say something very similar. Jev and I'm guessing less than a handful of other FaZe members that I don't keep up with are probably the only ones really keeping it alive to some degree. Just give Jev ownership or something lol /s
Grace really can't catch a break. Escaping from a predatory behind-the-scenes boss during her acting and then getting harassed for streaming and joining FaZe must really be draining her right now.
@@DirtyRobohobo you know some people actually don’t put money above everything, like there are other things that are important to them? Complex concept I know
she shouldnt be in FaZe, thats not her type...you can clearly see that, she should be with her friends in 100t if anything. faze just throwing numbers at people for the extra views from their CCs
@@shortallen3218 realistically who would actually care if you're getting a fat bag for nothing. Seriously for the majority of people they would sign because they pay you a lot of money for doing essentially nothing.
I feel bad for Grace. She quit acting to forget about the BS that happened to her and is doing something she likes just to get harrassed by people for something out of her control. People acting like if it were them they wouldn't join FaZe and get the free money they'd receive for just joining. At least she's putting in work.
She's not though compared to likely hundreds of other candidates Charlie lied, she has streamed 90 hours in 3 months, not even a part time job. Her viewership isn't insane either, about 1.3k
@@metalmythology6282 That doesnt justify blaming her or criticizing her when she did nothing wrong. If she wasnt a pretty woman no one would be harassing her and instead all the hate would be directed as Faze. But too many lnceIs are creating this fake drama
@@botanicalitus4194 lmao keep coping, people would be pissed if a mid tier make celebrity with no experience got a faze contract, these type of things are the reason faze is effed in the first place
@@metalmythology6282 Right u mean like how people harassed snoop dog when he was signed on for no good reason? Oh wait, that didnt happen. All of the anger was directed at the company when that happened not snoop dog. i dont need to cope, clearly u do if ur denying reality this bad just to cape for a bunch of harassers online
Even if the original members decided things, I think this was bound to happen. The shtick ran out of gas, it is what it is. Either reinvent or you're doomed to get forgotten.
Faze never really came off as a company that could stay afloat forever. The brand is just not woven tightly enough. All the BS and drama outweighs the positive components Lol.
I actually never heard of FaZe until recently as people started talking about how Grace is unfairly being harassed in all this. Then again, I've never been big on watching multiplayer FPS games, so they just wouldn't be on my radar.
I honestly haven't seen Faze anything since OG MW2. I'm interested to see though if the suits end up bowing out and the founders get the power back, or if the founders end up getting cut and the suits just keep going in the wrong direction
@@2ez369 Bro she’s not gonna drown, the company is going under not their careers. Unless you mean the hate she’s getting. Which makes even less sense because why does someone deserve hate for joining a company, if the company was already shit? That has nothing to do with her. She literally just got there.
@@TonyMezaXD You must have some sort of emotional connection towards her. The hate she’s receiving is expected, she joined something just for the money and the people are aware of it. She can’t benefit the organization in any way shape or form, and it’s natural backlash. It’s like Connor McGregor joining the LA lakers; what sense does that make?
@@2ez369 Emotional connection? Not even close. What the hell are you talking about? You must have some sort of emotional connection to Faze, because to idolize them as some sort of brand that is beyond reproach is just delusional. She isn’t a good fit? Why? The space has evolved past Faze. It’s no longer just esport pro gamers joining orgs now, it’s influencers and streamers. To think that Faze scamming kids with crypto currency isn’t going too far but hiring grace is? That’s insane and the motives are clear.
@@danielburnley3080 … how do you improve on anything without complaints? Games that he’s complained about may have not taken his input directly but once his issues that he was talking about were brought to light, the community completely agreed with most of the opinions n critiques so the games would be healthier, nonetheless you cant have anything good without drawbacks, he’s only making them more apparent with his platform
this is why you never go public unless you're going to leave the org. once that happens it's the shareholders who control the company. the only way faze will have a chance of getting back up is to go private so they can btfo the stock holders, potentially with suing them for corporate sabotage/negligence/whatever if proof can be found. the saving grace of their stock being so low right now is that it wouldn't cost as much as it would have last year
Thank you for sacrificing yourself so you can be our window into drama for the rest of us who don't use twitter or most socials, I had no idea any of this was happening
Back in the day, you had to be elite to be invited into a clan. Now its meaningless and lost all prestige when they just hand out invitations to anyone they feel they can invest in as "infuencers" and "streamers". You should be top 1% at your game to even be considered.
FaZe should've never went into stocks and bs, it's not a coincidence that when FaZe was mainly a content team it was making profits and wasn't paying millions on warehouses and people that don't even really represent the team. The fact that this much $ is going towards members that haven't been around when Faze began is crazy. Hope this all gets fixed man.
The only time I ever hear about them is when one of them does something incredibly stupid like that guy who made a video crying about getting banned for hacking in Fortnite on stream. To someone who doesn't follow that particular type of gaming they come across as a group who just make an ass of themselves every few months.
They engaged in predatory business tactics for years, fell off because of it, sold their business to suits, and now they are crying about how they sold their business to suits 😂😂 ya did it to yourself
They didn't out right sell the company, they were teenagers that made bad deals that eventually lead to the company becoming public and their main duties being replaced by some CEO
this video compared to the mogal mail vid is way more accurate. the other video made it seem like the OGs wanted to send hate to grace when that wasnt the case at all. you covered it much better with no bias
That’s usually how every company goes when they go public. Suits with degrees come in with no concept of the brand and how they got there start making executive decisions…never ends well.
I always forget Jev is a faze member, he really just be doing his own thing and having a good time, he dont get involved with no drama hes just doing what he do. Prolly the best most down to earth member of faze
It disgusting I find it targetting someone, especially someone innocent. I bet my life people are insulting her, messaging her, harassing and bullying on her accounts. This shit can really mentally hurt someone, it happened in the past many times. I hope Grace has the mentality to tolerate it or ignore it.
@Bill Clinton Enjoyer If I bet my life, I would still be alive. On the other hand if you bet your life I doubt you'd live. If you think this is bs, you need a reality check.
It is genuinely sad to see where FaZe is at right now. I’ve never cared for them, but I did have respect for them in the past for being the OGs in the CoD community. This is what happens when all you can see are dollar signs.
then you know she has know selfawareness. She just took an opportunity from a girl in the world who grinds games 10x harder then her and is better at the game overall. Only reason shes in faze is because shes a b grade actor from stranger things. Yes shes a nice person but damn she didnt think about shit , because the fanbase is only getting more upset with these clown recruits who didnt do shit to get that position gaming wise. its sad and washed out , the new gen members are delusional if they think the fan base is around for them, because they didnt do jack shit. Were here for the OG/s
you'd think pc companies and the tech world in general would be clambering over themselves to sponsor e-sports scenes. the problem now is the time for the tech companies to do that has passed, really. i also couldn't think of a better way to launch a game than host a tournament and invite big orgs. its way better promo than billboards, magazine ads, static/2d media in general.
i seriously find it shocking that the founders cannot control their own clan no more. i have never really liked faze but damn i hope the original founders can do something along the run
They sold their company for money. That's how ownership works. If I sell my bicycle, I can't be mad at how the next owner decides to take care of it. They would still own the company if they hadn't sold.
@@randomnobody9229 Exactly, people are blind. The "OG" sold themself because they were money hungry and wanted a lavish lifestyle. Now, they are crying Faze is mainstream... with a couple of million in their bank account. It's fucking sad, Faze wouldn't be what it is if they didn't sell it.
@@randomnobody9229 yeah i have been looking more into it. i didn't originally know what the cause for all this was. but i still get the feeling they signed it being unaware they wouldn't be listened to beyond that point and that's what bothers me. i don't like faze especially after the more recent drama with faze rain being a crappy human to a new member that isn't the issue. the company itself is just in scummy hands
@@joneyisbigfunny It really isn't hard to piece together. The original founders have spent their FaZe money and regret their purchase. They are actively sabotaging the brand to buy out their contract so they can start fresh.
From the original faze members to the ones today, one thing has never changed. They are all massive tools. Seeing faze sink into the abyss makes me happier than anyone knows.
okay but that's any corporation the OG's really had nothing to do with the corruption they just built a multi million dollar corporation and now they're being used only ones who are actually bad are corporate, Rug(scammer), and banks(scammer) the rest are innocent granted probably not completely but still
Please do a story about "De reuzegommers". It's a Belgian rich boy student club who were responsible for the death of "Sandra Dia" 20yo student. Where they as an 30hour initiation to join their club let him drink insanely irrisponsible amounts of alcohol, without being allowed to drink water to hydrate afterwards, they let them drink fish sauce, peed on them and much much more. They were each fined only €400!! and a community service of 300 hours for the involuntary manslaughter because their rich daddies who are lawyers, judges, governors with all the connections they need. The incident won't even be showed on their criminal record when they ever are looking for a job. Just as a comparison: If you get in a car accident in Belgium and would commit a flight crime, its a fine from €2200 up to €27500 and a prison sentence from 15 days up to 2 years. Imagine kiling someone and just having to pay a little money for it, do some community work and go about your day. Would love to see your perspective on this 🙏
Crazy how nostalgia can keep an entire organization alive.
Disney nervously side eying you
It works for Yugioh
Trash from the start. Not sad
@@GreenNinjaTea Tf u talking about bro 💀
Nostalgia..it's never as good as we remember tho
Hiring Grace after trying to create false hype and then firing 40% of staff is so disgusting.
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@YAMMIMICoh look it’s a FaZe crony. Shut up.
Depends. Do you really expect a failing organization to support what's not working and not try to do something to turn things around? Maybe they handled it poorly - people deserve to be treated respectfully, but no one is entitled to have or keep a job anywhere.
Jesus is coming
@@dxnixbleJesus is going to target to buy a new rainbow thong for his boyfriend
You are the reason I get to hear about this news without downloading Twitter. Thank you sir.
twitter is a website too chum
@@SafetyKitten Yeah one id rather not visit.
@@froggergod4939 based
Getting news from Twitter is an oxymoron
@@SafetyKitten The man's point still stands buddy. We don't need to interact with that cesspool because of Charlie
Jev absolutely carrying to the point where he very well might be the last standing member.
The only member not to have a fucking closet full of skeletons. Dude just stays in his own lane and does his own thing. Love and respect him for that
@@thefalconmctalon6011 fuck yeah
@@thefalconmctalon6011 He is just so genuine it feels like. I don’t even watch his videos much anymore, but when I do I swear he hasn’t changed much and it works!
@@zachiga He changed his channel name from Jev to FaZe Jev… so seems like something happened there
thanks for mentioning Jev :D
The fact charlie ties his cat into the convo so seamlessly though..
bro glazes anything
Charlie fans figuring out about basic communication for the first time:
@David [DOND wii?! More like Chipmunk PooPoo WII!] Grt grud
@@ToeLicker72 wdym?
The fact🤓👆
Grace goes from harassment in acting to harassment in gaming. Girl can’t catch a break I swear
She wasn't being harassed, people were complaining about her being signed over other people who had been trying for years just because she was already famous
@Stvy14 if you believe the internet hasn't harassed her based on the backlash you need a wake up check, gamers are toxic af if one person is saying "oh I wish they singed some one else" there's atleast 10 people letting her to die 😂
@@Jiub_SN there are comments under grace related comments here that are borderline harrasment
but what the fuck did she expect?
like she literally got offered to join an org simply because she was a gamer girl that was an actor, and her whole point was to make the scene less sexist when her gender was the entire reason she was part of the scene in the first place...
@@zezanje1 She expected to be treated with basic human decency.
Ah a tale as old as time: founders sell to corporate investors for decisive control and then the corporate investors kill it cause they are creatively incompetent.
Rain said they didn't sell anything though.
@@ToddDobbinsRandoms can’t just come in and take control of your company, you have to let them in first
@@peaceweapon1933 Yeah I understand that, I'm just saying he claims they didn't sell any of their shares. He never explains how it happened though which seems like BS.
@@ToddDobbins I wouldn't trust a FaZe member as far as I could throw them. They might be technically telling the truth that they didn't sell any of their shares. But there are other ways to get compensation. Maybe the traded them, maybe they gambled them away...the only people who knows are the ones who signed the contract. All we know is that they don't have control of their company/brand anymore.
@@shadowace940 I mean Rain literally is the one fighting back but I understand
His cat has put her sense into every video about controversies I love it sm
2:47
FaZe is what happens when an entity created by gamers is taken over by out-of-touch 1980's businessman stereotypes
Grace did nothing wrong here, but I know someone will harass her and claim she "ruined everything." She can't catch a break with these scandals.
It's not about her ruining everything. Faze management is definitely to blame but as a content creator, she should've done her due diligence about the company and all the issues it had before joining it. It wasn't hard to tell that something like this would happen.
@@sharansukesh6542 they offered here a big paycheck and a bigger audience most likely. still, she did nothing and does not deserve harasment.
@@sharansukesh6542 Her due diligence in regards to what? She should have predicted that she would be the target of a misogynistic hate campaign bc the company is bad with money?
@@botanicalitus4194 Nothing of this has to do with misogyny. What are you even saying? The reason people are mad is because they didn't hire other female gamers who've been grinding and are amazing at the game. People were excited to see which female in the space they would hire and were disappointed that it was someone who only just got into the gaming scene but was famous. Also, yes, it wasn't hard to predict that something like this could happen when the founders and management of a company are constantly and publicly going back and forth. All the faze clan OGs called out faze giving people like snoop dog a large amount of shares in Faze when he was never even a contributing member or in the gaming space.
@Bonotany I actually haven't seen any misogynistic comments towards her on Twitter yet. Most people who were accused of misogyny clearly stated that they have nothing against her but she wasn't an ideal faze recruit(shes got 0 skills, 0 content just screams on her streams). The reason she's the target is cause she's out there, unlike the faze management who don't show their face or names, so someone must be held accountable and they targeted her.(which is sad)
i love hearing charlie describe this stuff happening, especially when he starts a video with "you've probably seen the drama" and i have no idea what he's talking about
yep you’re new here
@@frankdawgy oh no!!! hes not spending his whole life following unnecessary internet drama‼️‼️ fake fan ‼️‼️
@@frankdawgy I’m blissfully ignorant to what happens on Twitter
@@cryinit corny
I don’t have twitter so having this connection to the shit world helps alot 😂👎🏽
I always viewed FaZe as more of a cultural staple on gaming but in my opinion their time as an org has long since passed. Even back in the day I cared more about individual members than the clan as a whole.
When prime COD started dying and Fortnite went more downhill Faze should’ve sold. I always find it funny seeing faze things because I totally forgot they existed
Watching FaZe become a money hungry corporation and destroy everything they stood for is honestly heartbreaking. At the end of the day, FaZe would not be where it is today without the OG’s. Leaving them in the dark (Rain, Teeqo, Blaze etc.) while they openly ridicule their every move is like watching a rebellious teen argue with their parents.
Nah at the end of the day all the big groups would be anything without US. And now they just use us or try scamming us
They were just call of duty douchebags from the start lol
I mean they sold Faze because the founders wanted money.
Sellouts then get mad because they sold out 😂😂😂
Man can not agree more with this sad to see the rise and fall of faze all within less than a ten year span
They never stood for anything, they were all PoS
2:51 he’s become a cat person, having a conversation with Io. It’s a beautiful thing to see
I love his interactions with Io so much!
Yesss as a fellow cat person it makes me so happy
Maybe he will stand for what he says next... He's effing deleting comments calling him out for the Idubbz video. I can't even mention d4ng3l0 Wall4c3 without my comment being deleted.
@@Somebody9666 ooh did something happen? I've seen some vids about it but hadn't dipped into the matter yet
@@Somebody9666 While that's interesting, it's as relevant as those bot comments.
It’s almost been a year now, the Faze drama has gotten far worse than before. Banks has purge everybody but 14 members are kept in
Crazy to think Faze was once as big as they were I still remember the talks of me and my friends "training" to get into Faze
O my god I remember those days all my friends wanted to be in faze and i just never understood why lol I was always that guy who would kill people boosting or trying to set up 360
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really, i feel like most gamers or atleast people who were around the age of the OG faze memebrs thought they were the cringiest.... like id expect them to be popular(w/ children) but i also expected them to sell out like they did AND let us not act like we are suprised by bad business decisions(like i said, sellouts).... you must of been young if you thought faze was cool then.
Everyone having the Faze logo and their CoD emblem
@@lchrlstlanl all the fake faze gamer tags lol!
It's nice to know his cat would like to input their voice into these important topics
I miss the days when Faze made sniping clips on call of duty. It's all I wanted to watch and do as a kid.
Jev's back must be killing from all the carrying he's done for FaZe.
True but tbh I don’t see Jev as Faze he isn’t Ny House Faze he’s his own seperate entity at this point.
@@stark8363 As he should be, bro is the GOAT
Go outside kids
@@_..-.._..-.._ brooo 😭😭😭😭
@@_..-.._..-.._I mean what’re you on about. Their talking about the current situation
I think Io should start her own esport team, she clearly has very valuable inputs to make it a success.
i feel like people around her should have let her know to stay farrrr away from faze if she joined otv or even got signed by ludwig or toast it would have been much more positive faze is a huge gamble considering all past owners love drama and scams and drugs
Everything except being a man
@@coolkid6751que?
esports teams don’t make money
@@ratboygirl english please
It's really sad that this exact series of events inevitably happens every single time a company goes public.
I can explain why but it's gonna sound tinfoil hat.
@@DirtyRobohobo Because human greed isn't a conspiracy. When the original owners give up control to people who want money, they will only want money. It's really simple, their goals don't align.
Same thing happened to even Star Wars. Hollywood hated Star Wars it's entire existence, saw it made a fuck-ton of money, offered Lucas a fuck-ton of money, and tried to make a fuck-ton of money off of it. Lucas, for all his faults, genuinely wanted to make movies because he liked to, Hollywood makes them for money. Then you wonder why the world's most successful indie space film series fails in the hands of suits.
Then take all your favorite gaming companies. Almost every single "classic" company was made by passionate people who genuinely loved what they did, then people who made money for a living started to take over, then money became the passion.
Go back in history to government changes, people who passionately want to lead the country into prosperity start making too many deal with the ones with money... happened to literally every single culture ever. Every single religion has experienced this at some point.
Human greed destroys human passion. No conspiracy needed.
@@DamienDarkside to put a name to the greedy faces you are referring to BlackRock and Vanguard have shares in FaZe.
@@DirtyRobohobo short hedgies get bad board members on board and they drive the company into the ground meanwhile shorting the living crap out of it. Once the stock gets delisted the shorts pay 0 taxes and then it’s on to the next. No tinfoil needed it’s the truth!
It was a company based on fraud to begin with they pumped and dumped. It was just to hide out. It was no way legit.
For me personally, it's hard to take any of the Faze OG's seriously as they willingly handed over the company they built to out of touch executives who have no idea how the gaming space operates and are now complaining about those executives. Not to mention all of the scams that members such as Banks have committed that makes me pretty confident that the company wouldn't be any better in their hands.
You clearly haven't heard about the history of FaZe clan, or the fact that these were teenagers who basically built a business and were used by execs when they didn't know how to run a business
After the Save the Kids scandal, it’s hard for me to take any of the members seriously. Even watching Rain’s exposure video here, there’s a *big* part of me wondering if it’s all fake just like with Save the Kids.
@Jordan Banks ran Faze into the ground lmao
@@Jordainthere he still knowingly scammed people
To be fair, it sounds like they didn't know any better and got taken advantage of by a person that sweet-talked all of them into trusting him, much like the early days of what I heard happened to a lot of youtubers that got signed into contracts they couldn't leave without tremendous effort that stole enormous amounts of money from you. If you're going to blame them, might as well blame every poor soul on RUclips that got sweet-talked by a company ever. Everyone has to get burned once, especially if it's about money, it's a matter if you can recover from it.
I love French toast.
used to be in almost every one of my cousins usernames
@David [DOND wii?! More like Chipmunk PooPoo WII!] you make no content
@Logan Floor {UTTP} your content is as good as meta stocks
I don’t. They clearly don’t give a fuck about there fans they just want money and to show it off there pathetic ppl once u actually grow up and can see em for what they are. Expect for that short mf wit the beard he was always coo
While I don’t like all of the faze members, I do miss some of them.
You know the situation is bad when Charlie’s cat has to chime in.
I started watching rain back when he was in his mom’s basement hitting 720 instaswaps. I was 13 back then and I recently turned 23. I can now say I have legitimately been watching Rain for over a decade, and I love how you always keep it real. Nobody else would expose their own company so hard purely out of love for doing what’s right. Massive respect to you man!
@Shrek bro why the bot comment twice ☠️
@@Jackscase bro had to double the odds real quick lmaooo
@@Nathan-lk4iu fr and there’s another one
@Angry Asriel [YFGA] [TOD] who?
@@Jackscase Fr idk where they come from bruh
FaZe Jev is holding the entire company together
I was going to say something very similar. Jev and I'm guessing less than a handful of other FaZe members that I don't keep up with are probably the only ones really keeping it alive to some degree. Just give Jev ownership or something lol /s
I wish he would leave honestly, I feel like Jev would benefit from just being his own person and uploading a variety of games
not to imply he's like not his own person by being in FaZe
@@pantaman7086 not like his viewers will change wether he leaves or not he’s still gonna do good
@@evanreynolds1034 I think he has to potential to grow even more if he just did his own thing tbh
i remember 10 years ago, "FaZe 360 no SCOPE MONTAGE"
I like how when faze is mentioned, charlie will always find a way to bring up snoop dog 🤣
snoop got the bag and left faster than he could show up
lol snoop really did show up like, so I'm getting paid for this? REALLY? okay thanks guys peace.
Snoop got paid in some near worthless stock if he hung onto it.
Grace really can't catch a break. Escaping from a predatory behind-the-scenes boss during her acting and then getting harassed for streaming and joining FaZe must really be draining her right now.
Exactly, honestly she’s dealing with the same type of assholes now with Faze.
Yeah I bet her bank account is weeping.
Wasn't all that happened that she got asked to a threesome?
@@DirtyRobohobo you know some people actually don’t put money above everything, like there are other things that are important to them? Complex concept I know
@@DirtyRobohobo ah yes, because going from acting into E-sport is totally the move you want to make if you're after money...
Seeing all this stuff come out makes me respect Jev more and more. The man has stayed true to what made himself and FaZe great in the first place.
Charlie making these videos is the only thing that reminds me that Faze still exists
Man wtf is wrong with this comment section
Jev is the only reason I still remember Faze lmao
Same
After csgo team disbands faze is irrelevant
@Logan Floor: Pedo Exposer 卐 just a reminder that you're here watching too 🙂👍
Drinking game: take a shot every time Charlie says hogwild, goofy and silly
You’re trying to kill people
I am now dead from alcohol poisoning
double jeopardy for troglodyte
MEDIC!😂😂😂
i prefer bingo card with words like "weenie hut jr" and "dubloons"
$700k is approximately ~56,000,000 Robux as 1 Robux is worth ~$0.0125.
I feel really bad for Grace, because she’s having to bear the brunt of the blame for FaZe failing, even though she did absolutely nothing wrong.
she shouldnt be in FaZe, thats not her type...you can clearly see that, she should be with her friends in 100t if anything. faze just throwing numbers at people for the extra views from their CCs
She doesn’t fit in faze she didn’t know anything about it, none of the history, trash talked the og members and didn’t know what trick shots were
@@shortallen3218 faze hasn’t been about that in years
Yeah I feel bad but at the same time she should have actually researched the shitshow she was signing up for instead of being tempted by the paycheck.
@@shortallen3218 realistically who would actually care if you're getting a fat bag for nothing. Seriously for the majority of people they would sign because they pay you a lot of money for doing essentially nothing.
I feel bad for Grace. She quit acting to forget about the BS that happened to her and is doing something she likes just to get harrassed by people for something out of her control. People acting like if it were them they wouldn't join FaZe and get the free money they'd receive for just joining. At least she's putting in work.
She's not though compared to likely hundreds of other candidates Charlie lied, she has streamed 90 hours in 3 months, not even a part time job. Her viewership isn't insane either, about 1.3k
@@metalmythology6282 That doesnt justify blaming her or criticizing her when she did nothing wrong. If she wasnt a pretty woman no one would be harassing her and instead all the hate would be directed as Faze. But too many lnceIs are creating this fake drama
@@botanicalitus4194 lmao keep coping, people would be pissed if a mid tier make celebrity with no experience got a faze contract, these type of things are the reason faze is effed in the first place
@@metalmythology6282 Right u mean like how people harassed snoop dog when he was signed on for no good reason? Oh wait, that didnt happen. All of the anger was directed at the company when that happened not snoop dog.
i dont need to cope, clearly u do if ur denying reality this bad just to cape for a bunch of harassers online
@@metalmythology6282i like watching him but he tends to simp over any female caught in any drama. He has to be their knight in shining armor.
Even if the original members decided things, I think this was bound to happen. The shtick ran out of gas, it is what it is. Either reinvent or you're doomed to get forgotten.
Faze never really came off as a company that could stay afloat forever. The brand is just not woven tightly enough. All the BS and drama outweighs the positive components Lol.
Who would've thought the company founded by mw2 trickshot youtube videos wouldn't be successful?
We seriously went from
“Joined FaZe Clan”
to
“Signed To FaZe Clan”
I like that the cat has become a reoccurring character recently
I am glad IO gave her opinion on this subject it really helped me understand this video.
I read the Batman Faze comic. It spawned my favorite line I say while gaming:
“I see you campin in the corner Joker!”
Truly a masterclass in dialogue
😂😂😂
Andrew cover it on his channel. It's freaking cringe AF
the what?
you are the only reason I know about 90% of Twitter drama bc I refuse to go on that cesspool of an app
being a big FaZe fan back in the MW2 days I genuinely feel sad that they are slowly falling off
Everyone falls off eventually, Charlie’s gonna fall off within the next 10 years, it’s just how it goes for everyone
i live for Io's cameos in these videos
Io has so many great opinions and comments to make. Honestly I think Io's collabs really elevate his videos. Their chemistry is spectacular.
It's not between founders and management it's the group of guys who got in a few years after the founders
I actually never heard of FaZe until recently as people started talking about how Grace is unfairly being harassed in all this. Then again, I've never been big on watching multiplayer FPS games, so they just wouldn't be on my radar.
They're kinda the biggest since like 2012, honestly surprising you haven't heard of em
I love the cat meowing randomly in Charlies videos she is just so perfect
It's just a cat.
@Ticz R and the cat is perfect
@@TiczR And your just a person... And this is a cat... And I would much rather be with this cat than you.
I honestly haven't seen Faze anything since OG MW2. I'm interested to see though if the suits end up bowing out and the founders get the power back, or if the founders end up getting cut and the suits just keep going in the wrong direction
Grace is awesome, and I feel bad she's getting hate for hopping on that sinking ship.
Honestly I hope she can grab that bag before it sinks. 💰
Maybe don’t hop on a sinking ship if you don’t wanna drown?
@@2ez369 Bro she’s not gonna drown, the company is going under not their careers. Unless you mean the hate she’s getting. Which makes even less sense because why does someone deserve hate for joining a company, if the company was already shit? That has nothing to do with her. She literally just got there.
@@TonyMezaXD You must have some sort of emotional connection towards her. The hate she’s receiving is expected, she joined something just for the money and the people are aware of it. She can’t benefit the organization in any way shape or form, and it’s natural backlash. It’s like Connor McGregor joining the LA lakers; what sense does that make?
@@2ez369 Emotional connection? Not even close. What the hell are you talking about? You must have some sort of emotional connection to Faze, because to idolize them as some sort of brand that is beyond reproach is just delusional. She isn’t a good fit? Why? The space has evolved past Faze. It’s no longer just esport pro gamers joining orgs now, it’s influencers and streamers.
To think that Faze scamming kids with crypto currency isn’t going too far but hiring grace is? That’s insane and the motives are clear.
The cat really said “don’t you own moist esports?” After Charlie started talking negatively about the scene
They didn’t ‘lose control’ of the company, they sold out hard to say you didn’t see it coming.
Tje plan from the start. The owner is part owner in the music industry and he really is a shady guy.
jev is the only real faze member remaining... You're appreciated bro ❤
I 1000000000% agree jev has always kept it real always has been my favorite faze member
Jev is just great. Best FaZe member and is actually still playing games
Jev just complains. The rest seem to rarely snipe. The content is STALE.
faze pamaaj
@@danielburnley3080 … how do you improve on anything without complaints? Games that he’s complained about may have not taken his input directly but once his issues that he was talking about were brought to light, the community completely agreed with most of the opinions n critiques so the games would be healthier, nonetheless you cant have anything good without drawbacks, he’s only making them more apparent with his platform
Io's commentary was truly valuable
Crazy how faze rain never had to take accountability for being a junkie and faking not being able to walk
Did he actually fake it ?
@@Patientoftheworld no
If he never took accountability for being a junkie he would still be a junkie. Quit talkin about addiction when you clearly aren’t educated about it
What a fuckin stupid comment😂
Exactly who is he accountable to for that?
this is why you never go public unless you're going to leave the org. once that happens it's the shareholders who control the company. the only way faze will have a chance of getting back up is to go private so they can btfo the stock holders, potentially with suing them for corporate sabotage/negligence/whatever if proof can be found. the saving grace of their stock being so low right now is that it wouldn't cost as much as it would have last year
Thank you for sacrificing yourself so you can be our window into drama for the rest of us who don't use twitter or most socials, I had no idea any of this was happening
its not that deep kid
@@ToeLicker72 lmao who would find this deep
deadass forgot faze was even a thing until i saw this video lmao.
@@ToeLicker72he wasn't trying to be, you unoriginal comment making, mid goofy dirt foot bum.
Same to be honest
Back in the day, you had to be elite to be invited into a clan. Now its meaningless and lost all prestige when they just hand out invitations to anyone they feel they can invest in as "infuencers" and "streamers". You should be top 1% at your game to even be considered.
I knew Faze was a joke when they signed fucking Keemstar.
FaZe should've never went into stocks and bs, it's not a coincidence that when FaZe was mainly a content team it was making profits and wasn't paying millions on warehouses and people that don't even really represent the team. The fact that this much $ is going towards members that haven't been around when Faze began is crazy. Hope this all gets fixed man.
I miss the days where esport team was actually an esport team
Why do you care about FaZe and how much they are paid
should've never gone*
I literally don't even know what Charlie is talking about anymore, but I keep coming back after all these years. Glad things worked out for him
Crack
Open your fucking ears
The only time I ever hear about them is when one of them does something incredibly stupid like that guy who made a video crying about getting banned for hacking in Fortnite on stream. To someone who doesn't follow that particular type of gaming they come across as a group who just make an ass of themselves every few months.
I think this story is funny because I'm reminded of Faze Banks walking into that GameStop, expecting and failing to be recognized as a celebrity.
You know Faze had a crossover with Batman. So that raises the question, when are we getting a MoistEsports and GodSlap comic?
Nah stop
Signing a celebrity makes perfect sense. You get a nice spill over of fans from each side
We need more input from Io, she's got a lot to say and I want to hear it.
Indeed
“It’s more tragic then the ending of Marley and me” that is a next level burn! 😮😂
“Fall from grace” oh charlie
They engaged in predatory business tactics for years, fell off because of it, sold their business to suits, and now they are crying about how they sold their business to suits 😂😂 ya did it to yourself
i thibk the suits stole the company and then the predatory tactics came in
They did not fall of from scams. It propelled their company even further allowing them to buy a csgo team.
Everyone gets fucked over by suits tech founders everyone.
@@ojurn8916 you cannot steal a company but u can buy it
They didn't out right sell the company, they were teenagers that made bad deals that eventually lead to the company becoming public and their main duties being replaced by some CEO
this video compared to the mogal mail vid is way more accurate. the other video made it seem like the OGs wanted to send hate to grace when that wasnt the case at all. you covered it much better with no bias
Charlie sounding just like his dad @ 2:57 is wild
Man, I never knew how badly I needed a cat in my life until I had a cat unceremoniously chucked into my life via RUclips videos. Love it.
I’m so baked I tried to blow your earphone wires thinking it was my dogs hair 👀
It's the same toxic relationship as the music labels and musicians have.
I actually feel like faze in the best state it’s been in a while because Rain and the rest of the og’s are finally trying to take the company back.
@MIMIC MAN no you didn't
Idk how i feel about the founders tbh, didnt they scam a bunch of people a year ago. Faze clan needs to die for good tbh
Landon H is a fucking MOUTH BREATHER
IO consistently has really solid takes
That’s usually how every company goes when they go public. Suits with degrees come in with no concept of the brand and how they got there start making executive decisions…never ends well.
How did the OGs lose control of the company if they didn't sell their shares like Rain claims? I've never heard him explain this.
They still have their shares but the other people like snoop dog Bronny James and Grace Etc are getting way more shares and money
@@Hillcountryoperations That doesn't explain how the original members lost control of the company. Rain has not explained this.
@@ToddDobbins yes he hasn’t explained it because they already have bro, they sold their company while rain was doing drugs
I always forget Jev is a faze member, he really just be doing his own thing and having a good time, he dont get involved with no drama hes just doing what he do.
Prolly the best most down to earth member of faze
Like how Faze Jev is the only member that haven't changed at all. A dude that get mad or enjoys video games.
It disgusting I find it targetting someone, especially someone innocent. I bet my life people are insulting her, messaging her, harassing and bullying on her accounts. This shit can really mentally hurt someone, it happened in the past many times. I hope Grace has the mentality to tolerate it or ignore it.
Grace is a nepo baby with a rich actor dad. She'll be fine
@@StEvEn420BrUlE being famous is when harassment doesn't exist
@@ZEROpz I didn't say that. I said she's a rich kid with a rich dad who has nothing to worry about in life when it comes to money or fame.
@@StEvEn420BrUlEmoney isn’t everything but when you’re poor it is everything.
@Bill Clinton Enjoyer If I bet my life, I would still be alive. On the other hand if you bet your life I doubt you'd live. If you think this is bs, you need a reality check.
Who else finds wholesome how Charlie talks with his cat about the topic he is talking about
The way faze tries branching out reminds me of smosh and the company that tried branching that out
You got one thing very wrong. It is not more tragic than the ending of Marley and me
I’m sorry but Faze Banks is one to talk. I remember him being a dealer and an addict. Granted that was years ago but …. Really?
"Wild fall from Grace" - good one.
Charlies new cat being exposed to the drama of the internet is so charlie.
a bot stole your comment im sorry bro
thank you for the sentiment, io, you are truly the voice of the people
io out here asking the real questions
Honestly idk anymore if her name is Ayo or Io wtf is this
@@normanmai7865deez balls
@@normanmai7865 its Io(I-O)
@@normanmai7865 It's Io (eye-oh), like the moon of Jupiter, or the princess from Greek mythology.
From everything I’ve heard about FaZe, I think it’s probably best to shut it down as soon as they can.
It is genuinely sad to see where FaZe is at right now. I’ve never cared for them, but I did have respect for them in the past for being the OGs in the CoD community. This is what happens when all you can see are dollar signs.
grace is such a nice person if you watch her streams then you know
then you know she has know selfawareness. She just took an opportunity from a girl in the world who grinds games 10x harder then her and is better at the game overall. Only reason shes in faze is because shes a b grade actor from stranger things. Yes shes a nice person but damn she didnt think about shit , because the fanbase is only getting more upset with these clown recruits who didnt do shit to get that position gaming wise. its sad and washed out , the new gen members are delusional if they think the fan base is around for them, because they didnt do jack shit. Were here for the OG/s
Lol
@@drx696 she didnt take the opportunity of anyone, if they havent been hired yet, then said opportunity never existed.
@@drx696 go outside
@@drx696 grinds games? You kids are lost, get a bicycle
you'd think pc companies and the tech world in general would be clambering over themselves to sponsor e-sports scenes. the problem now is the time for the tech companies to do that has passed, really. i also couldn't think of a better way to launch a game than host a tournament and invite big orgs. its way better promo than billboards, magazine ads, static/2d media in general.
Have a good weekend guys!
😊
👍
You too brother
🫡🫡🫡
Great man
I've never been a big fan of FaZe but it's sad to watch such a passionate org get sucked dry by corporate suites.
WTH is Faze 😂
@@CrashMonkey84 game people or somet
Kind of poetic though that their stocks's graph looks just like the graph of the Save the Kids token
@MIMIC MAN every comment?
All the original faze members grew up to be entitled douche bags and don't deserve your pity
i seriously find it shocking that the founders cannot control their own clan no more. i have never really liked faze but damn i hope the original founders can do something along the run
They sold their company for money. That's how ownership works. If I sell my bicycle, I can't be mad at how the next owner decides to take care of it. They would still own the company if they hadn't sold.
@@randomnobody9229 Exactly, people are blind. The "OG" sold themself because they were money hungry and wanted a lavish lifestyle. Now, they are crying Faze is mainstream... with a couple of million in their bank account. It's fucking sad, Faze wouldn't be what it is if they didn't sell it.
@@randomnobody9229 yeah i have been looking more into it. i didn't originally know what the cause for all this was. but i still get the feeling they signed it being unaware they wouldn't be listened to beyond that point and that's what bothers me. i don't like faze especially after the more recent drama with faze rain being a crappy human to a new member that isn't the issue. the company itself is just in scummy hands
@@dominiquemartel4660 no point in calling people blind when there is a ton of misinformation going on about it. unfortunately that is the internet
@@joneyisbigfunny It really isn't hard to piece together. The original founders have spent their FaZe money and regret their purchase. They are actively sabotaging the brand to buy out their contract so they can start fresh.
All this Faze stuff happening and we still have the same old jev we know and love
100% jev is the best faze member
From the original faze members to the ones today, one thing has never changed. They are all massive tools. Seeing faze sink into the abyss makes me happier than anyone knows.
wtf
That's a controversial opinion
okay but that's any corporation the OG's really had nothing to do with the corruption they just built a multi million dollar corporation and now they're being used only ones who are actually bad are corporate, Rug(scammer), and banks(scammer) the rest are innocent granted probably not completely but still
At least the OGs were fun to watch back in the day
Idk man Jev is pretty cool
I very much enjoy how many cat comments im seeing just from that small IO cameo.
Shoutout to Io for the most nuanced opinion. Truly a master wordsmith.
Charlie’s cat was truly frustrated over hearing about Esports being a broke industry
Please do a story about "De reuzegommers". It's a Belgian rich boy student club who were responsible for the death of "Sandra Dia" 20yo student. Where they as an 30hour initiation to join their club let him drink insanely irrisponsible amounts of alcohol, without being allowed to drink water to hydrate afterwards, they let them drink fish sauce, peed on them and much much more. They were each fined only €400!! and a community service of 300 hours for the involuntary manslaughter because their rich daddies who are lawyers, judges, governors with all the connections they need. The incident won't even be showed on their criminal record when they ever are looking for a job. Just as a comparison: If you get in a car accident in Belgium and would commit a flight crime, its a fine from €2200 up to €27500 and a prison sentence from 15 days up to 2 years. Imagine kiling someone and just having to pay a little money for it, do some community work and go about your day. Would love to see your perspective on this 🙏
Wow, that sucks, I wish them the best. Thats depressing. I hope that they can take it back