I always loved the idea of the Vong, as well. I mean, just imagine it: This entire civilization has traveled from far across the Intergalactic Void, over *millennia*, to get HERE! I mean, how awesome is that? :-) So many questions arise in my mind: What has life evolved to, in another galaxy? What form has Life taken? What does technology look like? Do other galaxies have The Force, too? Do they also have galaxy-wide civilizations connected by FTL travel? Etc., etc.
Yeah, we (Star Wars fans) owe him everything except the OT. He created the Expanded Universe, he inspired the Prequels, both of which inspired the TV shows, etc.
@@GenerationTech I also got his autograph on a picture of him dressed as a Grand Admiral. If it weren't Dave Filoni, I'd want Timothy Zahn to head Star Wars in the future.
Zahn is also the author of his own original book series “Cobra,” which follows cybernetic soldiers with weapons hidden in their bodies designed for Guerrilla warfare on alien-occupied planets. I think it’s worth looking into for those who enjoy his works.
But can we agree they're kinda ridiculous and OP I've been thinking and instead of me hating the vong and being glad they're legends i wish disney would just adapt them to how powerful the competition is oh and also maybe they don't kill half the fuckin galaxy with living crab armor and mini black holes lmao
I've done creative writing and fanfics since highschool, and I'm writing a novel now. Timothy Zahn has always been my #1 inspiration of how I storytell.
I love the vision of Timothy Zahn with his books, because he seems to see Star Wars similarly to how I do - focusing more on "realistic" sci-fy/ science fantasy possibilities within a fictional universe and not using it primarily as a platform for pushing political agendas. He makes more believable characters and interesting storylines that grow beyond the original trilogy, taking the story into new directions without destroying or invalidating the established lore.
I really like the books by James Luceno. He has great content. I love his contribution to the Star Wars Visual Dictionary, and Plagueis and Tarkin. He’s a great author!
He's very unbiased and honestly he's completely right most of the eu is absolute garbage and bullshit made for retards who want the craziest shit even if it doesnt make sense lmao
Not really, I’m kinda glad they scrapped the EU, they really had no choice but to start over. Most of the EU had no cohesion and the best EU ideas are pretty easy to graft onto the new canon because the best EU works are *self-sufficient* and work really well on their own. As much as I love heir to the empire and the vong era, it would be nigh impossible to directly adapt those into a new trilogy and do it well
Me too honestly. They were going to be in an episode of the clone wars but George scrapped it because he didn't like they're resistant to the force. If they make it into canon they should be an ancient jedi thing since unless they changed up who they are they'd have to put them in a setting where they can do whatever they want without contridicting the main story.
The Vong reminded me of Klingon battle lust and Zerg ingenuity. Living ships? Zerg. Warrior caste all well trained and if not? Shamed. And seeing as I loved Starcraft, Star Trek (Not a hardcore fan, but I loved the og series/movies and Voyager/TNG movies) and Star Wars (my fave of them all.) They were like a mix of my fave series all crammed into one enemy.
I think I could add that Vongs are needed as justification for Palpatine tactic. Empire Fleet was prepared to deal with threats way above what exactly they could encounter in that region and vastly unprepared to deal with pirates and rebels. Problem with Vong was that they were overpowered without they design actually reflecting that. It is why people jokingly call them space orcs. Grysks did have modern weapons and in fact competent intelligence and tactic, so they did have possibility to threat full fledged military. On top of that whole mystery angle make unclear if they were just clever local threat or they are actually vanguard of interstellar conquest. It is in fact quite clever writing.
@@TheRezro I think the Vong were created to give the Star Wars universe something like an Engame with a huge galactic threat similar to the Borg or Reapers from Mass Effect where the existence of the Galaxy itself is at risk.
@@TheRezro The Vong wasn't created as a reason for the imperial militairy, the militairy were made to only rule the galaxy so that Sidious would get to his selfish wishes of unlimited power. Just look at how he designed the Empire, if he died the Empire would fall for failing to protect him, that's not a good system if you are creating a militairy to face another giant threat.
First order uses people, the grand army of the republic was clones, both use robots so it is more like them vs corpus... Grinieer gallen was my first thought as well.
When I was a kid I lived in the same town as Timothy Zahn. He was pretty weird, and most of us knew he was writing a book because he always talked about it, but he never said what it was about. He moved away when I was 11 or 12, and then we all found out he became famous. It's pretty strange looking back at him now not knowing he was writing one of my favorite book series.
@@GenerationTech Agreed, I'd love to see a lore series akin to clone wars about the Vong or even Jacen's rise and fall during the second galactic civil war. Don't let Legends turn to Myth!
@@GenerationTech you beat up on the EU, did you not like the x wing series or the bounty Hunter books? Or even the han solo books? Which ones do you think are garbage
@@GenerationTech could even do a bit later than NJO. The late Legacy era (the Legacy comics with Cade Skywalker, Darth Kryat, the Fel Empire, etc) could be a real goldmine. Just sayin
They've said that the next Star Wars project takes place 400 years in the past, and has to do with trying to explore the Unknown Regions. Also, there's Ezra and Thrawn. They're most likely in the Unknown Region. Wherever the purrgil took them. And Sabine and Ahsoka are looking for them. So I think, and just having fun guessing, is that there's a setup for a threat from the Unknown Regions being slowly built up.
I just finished listening to the 2 Thrawn trilogies, and I really hope they bring the Grisk into live action. They're a truly terrifying adversary and if they bring them into the post sequel trilogy era, they'll clean the pallet from all of the First Order bs.
I would kill for a TV or streaming series about the first order at war with a militant species. Maybe it could be the new canon version of the war with the Vong.
As a retired Warframe player i can say that'd be awesome. Clem just running around with dual blasters and waving them around like he was Drake from Drake and the 99 dragons (crappy game but fun thought)
As long as tenno had their warframes it would be a quick and easy win for them, tenno use mostly projectile weapons and most energy weapons are not deflectable by lightsabers either (that includes their void amps). Overall i doubt they could do anything against origin systems firearms, melee weapons can probably be cut.
I love the unknown regions, their is soo much unique tech and factions their, like the chiss with their maser’s and claw craft, and now the grisk with their “lightning”/energy guns and unique ships, cant wait for art of them to pop up
Timothy Zahn's trilogy was my favorite! I got my hands on it 22 years ago in an used books shop in Costa Rica ! :P it hurt me sooooo much when I knew Disney was scrapping his trilogy
My fantastical theory is that Grysks are fled to unknown region from another galaxy after being defeated by Yuuzhon Vong. This would make Yuuzhon Vong far more terrifying.
Well the First order must have found a way to deal with the Grisk. Even after episode 9 there are still first order bases, planets, storehouses, ships, and production facilities in the unknown regions. They only showed some resurgent class ships taken out. No one invaded and took out their holdings in the unknown regions. We know they had lots of ISD’s they modified and smaller ships they used in the unknown regions. I’d LOVE to see Zahn write about this. I recently purchased the Zahn 1995 books and his newer books on Audible.
I'm not sure how though. The first order Disney provided us was filled with incompetent commanders. The Grysks have proven to be a highly intelligent force with terrifying ability to subvert civilisations. More likely the first order simply ignored the Grysks and the Grysks were busy warring with the Chiss who knows.
This sounds like a major post episode 9 storyline to me. Galaxy is fractured. No standing government and likely separate cells of first order in control of spots. We could have different factions ruling the galaxy. A perfect storm for the a Grysks to invade a galaxy in chaos and turmoil. The resistance may have won but there’s no structure currently. One Jedi cannot fight hordes of the Grysks.
The grysks would perfectly fit into the expanded universe as another faction of the Unknown Regions with a home sector hidden by dense nebulas and gravitational anomalies
Basically: if Thrawn says/thinks something, it is in your best interest to agree if you don't have anything better to offer. However, if you have a better idea, it is better to voice it
Death troopers was fudging awesome. The description was great and he even added communication between the storm troopers. Before they got turned into zombies. Obviously
Glad to see Tim getting some love. Hope Generation Tech has read his non-trek books. I am particularly fond of Triplet and Spinnerette. . . not to mention the Cobra serieseses.
I would have loved to see a game of thrones type conflict between the vong, New republic, resistance, first order, and the sith. But I think they should have done more to make the new sith empire more unique from the first order.
I’m quite intrigued by the kind of Mongol/Hun/Avar inspiration element of the Grysk. The Mongols adapted and adopted tech from clients, made heavy use of scouting but were ultimately defeated by a breakdown of the empire into competing factions. Huns (Black Huns of Attila fame) were more a confederacy with the original nomads only comprising a small amount of the vast power they wielded using subjugated clients. They were defeated by the remnants of the western Roman Empire along with Germanic and other nomadic allies who occupied former Roman lands, their ultimate defeat coming after Attila died and the subjugated people rebelling. Avars devastated the Balkans subjugated the people living there and defeated the Eastern Romans numerous times. They were defeated when The Franks gathered a large army and after defeating them in battle numerous times made it to the almost legendary Avar capital which was an unusual city of many concentric circles. A theme for all was the adaption to their ways of fighting and the use of their warriors as mercenaries before, during and long after their ascendency. Looking at the possible inspirations there is a lot that could come from this Grysk narrative.
Why do I get the feeling Disney is going to mess up the Vong if they ever do get to them. Probably turn them into a mix of Hellraiser and an organic Borg of sorts.
theres been alot of talk of the unknown regions lately like thrawn, snoke, exagoal now the griss makes me think of what Lucas film is planning it has to be something big
While they may not have been the Vong, the Grysks would still have been far more preferable antagonists for the sequels over that pathetic knockoff of the Empire that we ultimately got.
Some of Legends may be garbbage, but it needed Disney to provide a whole trilogy and surrounding media to dunk the whole thibg ito a brim filled septic tank.
@@billclark5055 Disney canon is quit stupid (except Rogue One, Solo, TCW S7 and the Mandalorian), but I prefer when the canon is planned and controlled, rather than every author and story maker throwing out their own ideas while contradicting with each others work and messing the timeline without proper enough planning with Lucasfilm.
Thank You for including Star Citizen imagery into your videos, even if not discussed or mentioned as in 8:37 ... but the RSI Mantis and its interdiction system makes for a good unofficial plug for the game. If you can, would be nice to see a video on SC, and your review of the upcoming game ect. The Mantis shown here is a decent Star Trek'ish design, and really nicely styled on the inside too. The Drake Corsair is more Star Wars'ish.
I think we will find out a lot more about The Gryssk from Thrawn and Ezra since I think they are stuck in their territory or that of their "client species" and we will get our first good look at them in the follow up to Rebels.
Great stuff :) ... I still think that Disney needs to make a movie on Darth Bane. The story itself is so fundamental on the ways of Modern Sith as the rule of 2 was devised by Darth Bane. Plus of course he was the ultimate bad ass!! C'mon peeps insect armor ftw!!! :D ..
Zhan made me realize, way better than the movies did, just how much of a grumpy asshole Vader was. And it makes sense! Take everything that a man cares about away from him forever and he's probably gonna be a pretty unpleasant guy.
Disney trilogy is almost barren in terms of content outside of the movies due to reasons that don’t need to be named. It’s always a surprise to see something come out of it.
The best way to guarantee a safe and prosperous galaxy is to rid it of its infestation of inferior alien species ( that happen to live on words with valuable resources . )
Not all of it, a lot of it is being brought in, general rule of tumb:if it’s in a tv show or movie, in some cases comics, it’s cannon That’s why republic commando is cannon
It seems like it's just an attempt to make their own version of the Vong... Ritualistic warlike race with deformities and bizarre tech? Just sounds like the Vong, and I'd rather just have the Vong than some discount Disney-fied version, and I don't mean that in an elitist way, I mean it as I find the Vong more interesting. Since they were almost shown in the Clone Wars, I'm still holding out a shred of hope they'll be included somehow.
“Almost destroyed the First Order.” *Almost*
Figures, damn xenos can’t do *anything* right.
That one time u want Xenos to win they fail.
The title is inaccurate to the actual title
Its goes
"The alien empire that almost destroyed first order"
@@SpiffoGaming And it's not even an actual part of the lore, it's just speculation of the uploader.
Except take our jobs
For the note it could be only Vanguard.
I honestly love the Yuuzhan Vong, I know a lot of fans hate them but I hope they appear in canon again.
Same here
Well compared to the sequel trilogy's hate the yuuzhan vong's hate is not that big, I also want to watch the yuuzhan vong again.
I always loved the idea of the Vong, as well. I mean, just imagine it: This entire civilization has traveled from far across the Intergalactic Void, over *millennia*, to get HERE! I mean, how awesome is that? :-)
So many questions arise in my mind: What has life evolved to, in another galaxy? What form has Life taken? What does technology look like? Do other galaxies have The Force, too? Do they also have galaxy-wide civilizations connected by FTL travel? Etc., etc.
Still much potential to them...
B. Lonewolf I could answer most of those burning questions but I'd like you to discover for yourself. The Legends Lore pit goes deep af 👌
Timothy Zahn saved Star Wars.
Change my mind.
I shall not...
Yeah, we (Star Wars fans) owe him everything except the OT. He created the Expanded Universe, he inspired the Prequels, both of which inspired the TV shows, etc.
and filoni and favreu
Leia rule 34 and cosplayers saved star wars, change my mind
Wouldn't even attempt to change your mind on something so objectively true
The unknown regions: star wars equivalent of the Bermuda Triangle
Except in this case it's the Bermuda wrap-around.
@@TheDONing1 LMAO. Best. Name. Ever.
@@etazeta674 I appreciate that, it took quite a while to come up with it. Ever since, everything's been going great!
@@TheDONing1 lmao
Siberia
Timothy Zahn is a legend in Star Wars. I met the guy once! He’s a great author.
that's awesome
Agreed I remember reading heir to the empire in the early 1990s and it was amazing.
Definitely my favorite author for Star Wars!
@@GenerationTech I also got his autograph on a picture of him dressed as a Grand Admiral. If it weren't Dave Filoni, I'd want Timothy Zahn to head Star Wars in the future.
I saw him at Comic-Con in NM last year and got him to sign a copy of the third new thrawn book
"Sees thumbnail"
*Grineer inbound*
There's a lot of Grofit to be made
I am about to go play Warframe
DiD yOu ReAlLy BeLiEvE iT wOuLd ThIs Easy!?!
@@shotwhat3234 WhY aRe ThĘsÊ wOŕMs StIĺL bRęàTiNg Mý AïR?!
Clem?
"Who is it? Vong?"
"No."
"Zakuul?"
"No."
"Another apparently dangerous species that sits on their ass that I've never heard of?"
"Yes."
Grineer
Kneel before the dragon of Zakuul!
@@tastynottasty3314 I will never again kneel to you!
I honestly would've loved to see Zakuul, but they're a predominately human civilization, so they wouldn't exactly count.
More cyborgs, you can’t say they don’t love using their tech for everything
The real question: if joruus is the clone of jorus, is sheev the clone of shev
Or sheeev
Plot twist: The 'Luke' from the sequel trilogy was Luuke all this time .
I will now accept this as canon.
@@filikasnicadori1827 well that explain his unstable personality and die on force projection he is the clone luke not the real one.
@@gamerpro9809 It was a joke, you imbecile. Also Luke wasn't a Garry Stu.
The Aliens that almost killed the First order.
MESA JAR JAR BINKS
[not]Qui-gon: The capacity for [murder] does not make one [genocidal].
Jar jar: *continues anyway*
Gungans are great warriors. How dare you insult them like that. That's like talking about humans and then quoting the worst of our race
YOUSSA IN BIG DOODOO NOW
NO mesa jar jar
When u here jar jars voice while reading the text
Zahn is also the author of his own original book series “Cobra,” which follows cybernetic soldiers with weapons hidden in their bodies designed for Guerrilla warfare on alien-occupied planets. I think it’s worth looking into for those who enjoy his works.
did you read them? i see theres a couple Cobra:series book sets
NO
Sounds pretty terrible...
One does not simply sweep the Yuuzhan Vong under the carpet after millenia travelling to take over the galaxy
But can we agree they're kinda ridiculous and OP I've been thinking and instead of me hating the vong and being glad they're legends i wish disney would just adapt them to how powerful the competition is oh and also maybe they don't kill half the fuckin galaxy with living crab armor and mini black holes lmao
@@vancehill6694 no, they were perfect for the end of that era.
Believe me, the new trilogy would have been very interesting had Disney hired him to write the entire story arc of the sequel trilogy.
I've done creative writing and fanfics since highschool, and I'm writing a novel now. Timothy Zahn has always been my #1 inspiration of how I storytell.
You could have made life easy an picked a less flipping amazing inspiration. 😃
Grineer would kill the first order. If my warframe can struggle with the Grineer then the first order is DONE.
If you're struggling in Warframe, get a psychiatric check-up.
@@120mmsmoothbore2
Level 100 bombards would like a word when you have a spare moment.
@@TheGuardingDark_ lvl100 bombards? Pfft, child's play. Warframe isn't difficult
@@TheGuardingDark_ 100's are easy.
@@TheGuardingDark_ 100 is still normal lol......wait until you get lvl 130+ corrupted eximuses (bombards/heavy gunners)
I love the vision of Timothy Zahn with his books, because he seems to see Star Wars similarly to how I do - focusing more on "realistic" sci-fy/ science fantasy possibilities within a fictional universe and not using it primarily as a platform for pushing political agendas. He makes more believable characters and interesting storylines that grow beyond the original trilogy, taking the story into new directions without destroying or invalidating the established lore.
I really like the books by James Luceno. He has great content. I love his contribution to the Star Wars Visual Dictionary, and Plagueis and Tarkin. He’s a great author!
another great author
Hope he gets another Palpatine novel...
The two greats of the EU
Your lack of faith in the EU disturbs me.
You're Stupified.
He's very unbiased and honestly he's completely right most of the eu is absolute garbage and bullshit made for retards who want the craziest shit even if it doesnt make sense lmao
Not really, I’m kinda glad they scrapped the EU, they really had no choice but to start over. Most of the EU had no cohesion and the best EU ideas are pretty easy to graft onto the new canon because the best EU works are *self-sufficient* and work really well on their own. As much as I love heir to the empire and the vong era, it would be nigh impossible to directly adapt those into a new trilogy and do it well
I like the Vong better. They were like the Star Wars version of Alien and Predator having a baby.
Me too honestly. They were going to be in an episode of the clone wars but George scrapped it because he didn't like they're resistant to the force. If they make it into canon they should be an ancient jedi thing since unless they changed up who they are they'd have to put them in a setting where they can do whatever they want without contridicting the main story.
@@darthcjvader100 didn’t they not make it into the clone wars because the season got abruptly cancelled before that episode could be made?
@@baconboi4482 That's one reason but they wouldn've made it anyway even if the show went on.
@@darthcjvader100 the ancient jedi spot goes to the rakata
The Vong reminded me of Klingon battle lust and Zerg ingenuity. Living ships? Zerg. Warrior caste all well trained and if not? Shamed. And seeing as I loved Starcraft, Star Trek (Not a hardcore fan, but I loved the og series/movies and Voyager/TNG movies) and Star Wars (my fave of them all.) They were like a mix of my fave series all crammed into one enemy.
*sees thumbnail*
Me: "Grineer? What the f-"
thats what i came here for.. 😅
Grisk? Sound like Di$ney-fied Vong.
Though I wouldn't mind seeing Zahn put in full creative control of the story group.
Yes, most balanced version of something what fans always hated, but understand was needed. But as another R3tar@fan you probably not know that 0_0
Vong were broken from the start and the justification for their force immunity was just absurd.
Grisk are a well fleshed out threat thanks to Zahn.
I think I could add that Vongs are needed as justification for Palpatine tactic. Empire Fleet was prepared to deal with threats way above what exactly they could encounter in that region and vastly unprepared to deal with pirates and rebels. Problem with Vong was that they were overpowered without they design actually reflecting that. It is why people jokingly call them space orcs. Grysks did have modern weapons and in fact competent intelligence and tactic, so they did have possibility to threat full fledged military. On top of that whole mystery angle make unclear if they were just clever local threat or they are actually vanguard of interstellar conquest. It is in fact quite clever writing.
@@TheRezro I think the Vong were created to give the Star Wars universe something like an Engame with a huge galactic threat similar to the Borg or Reapers from Mass Effect where the existence of the Galaxy itself is at risk.
@@TheRezro The Vong wasn't created as a reason for the imperial militairy, the militairy were made to only rule the galaxy so that Sidious would get to his selfish wishes of unlimited power.
Just look at how he designed the Empire, if he died the Empire would fall for failing to protect him, that's not a good system if you are creating a militairy to face another giant threat.
If the mandalorian faction was at full strength, the grisks would be destroyed if they invaded
Yo that's a Grineer galleon from Warframe
My thoughts exactly lol
The Grineer vs First Order
Funny thing is they are human clones too.
Yeah
First order uses people, the grand army of the republic was clones, both use robots so it is more like them vs corpus...
Grinieer gallen was my first thought as well.
When I was a kid I lived in the same town as Timothy Zahn. He was pretty weird, and most of us knew he was writing a book because he always talked about it, but he never said what it was about. He moved away when I was 11 or 12, and then we all found out he became famous. It's pretty strange looking back at him now not knowing he was writing one of my favorite book series.
Ahh, yes, the Grineer are the alien species that nearly destroyed the First Order. Of course.
Of course.
Imagine what the Tenno can do to them... they can even give the Jedi and the Sith a run for their money. :D
TENNO SKOOM!!!
Timothy Zahn is my favorite Star Wars author, because many of his books show the Imperials' points of view.
hey, ever considered doing some stuff about the late era of EU? I know a lot of people can't stand the denningverse, but I think its pretty good.
I mean the NJO is a guilty pleasure for me
@@GenerationTech Agreed, I'd love to see a lore series akin to clone wars about the Vong or even Jacen's rise and fall during the second galactic civil war. Don't let Legends turn to Myth!
@@GenerationTech you beat up on the EU, did you not like the x wing series or the bounty Hunter books? Or even the han solo books? Which ones do you think are garbage
"Invincible" is still my favorite.
@@GenerationTech could even do a bit later than NJO. The late Legacy era (the Legacy comics with Cade Skywalker, Darth Kryat, the Fel Empire, etc) could be a real goldmine. Just sayin
They've said that the next Star Wars project takes place 400 years in the past, and has to do with trying to explore the Unknown Regions. Also, there's Ezra and Thrawn. They're most likely in the Unknown Region. Wherever the purrgil took them. And Sabine and Ahsoka are looking for them. So I think, and just having fun guessing, is that there's a setup for a threat from the Unknown Regions being slowly built up.
We do seem to be getting a Rebels sequel series soon...
I just finished listening to the 2 Thrawn trilogies, and I really hope they bring the Grisk into live action. They're a truly terrifying adversary and if they bring them into the post sequel trilogy era, they'll clean the pallet from all of the First Order bs.
Your choice of depiction for the grisk had me laughing so hard! I just kept remembering the scene with the red button.😂
I would kill for a TV or streaming series about the first order at war with a militant species. Maybe it could be the new canon version of the war with the Vong.
Boooo. We need a galactic wide alien invasion film. But that could be a video game
Zahn +First Order Origins = Perfection.
Zahn anything just finished his new thrawn trilogy it was excellent
@@GenerationTech I am currently reading Thrawn Treason and really enjoying it.
I hope to get it in paperback.
Ps, has anyone found Alphabet Squadron paperback yet?
I'd recognising those ships anywhere, what are you doing with the Grineer?
I dont know
Oh boi, they're gonna need something stronger than Jedi to fight Sentients
@Joseph Douek Imagine mandalorians weilding the paracesis
I-Is that a warframe background in the thumbnail? Tenno + Jedi would be awesome plus Clem wielding blaster rifles.
Agree
As a retired Warframe player i can say that'd be awesome. Clem just running around with dual blasters and waving them around like he was Drake from Drake and the 99 dragons (crappy game but fun thought)
@@torntokoroa3357 or two double bladed lightsabers
As long as tenno had their warframes it would be a quick and easy win for them, tenno use mostly projectile weapons and most energy weapons are not deflectable by lightsabers either (that includes their void amps). Overall i doubt they could do anything against origin systems firearms, melee weapons can probably be cut.
8:04 Say that again... now faster.
I didn't realize there was another massive empire in the Unknown Regions aside from the Vong. Interesting! Thanks!
technically the vong came from another galaxy
the chiss are there too
@@GenerationTech Ah thats right. Thanks!
I’d like to see a Star Trek like series that follows either an expeditionary fleet into the unknown region or the first order trying to survive in it.
or the EVE online Universe
I love the unknown regions, their is soo much unique tech and factions their, like the chiss with their maser’s and claw craft, and now the grisk with their “lightning”/energy guns and unique ships, cant wait for art of them to pop up
Timothy Zahn's trilogy was my favorite! I got my hands on it 22 years ago in an used books shop in Costa Rica ! :P it hurt me sooooo much when I knew Disney was scrapping his trilogy
Basically they remastered yuzhan vong.
A shame they didn't succeed, would've been a more interesting antagonist faction.
My fantastical theory is that Grysks are fled to unknown region from another galaxy after being defeated by Yuuzhon Vong. This would make Yuuzhon Vong far more terrifying.
Well the First order must have found a way to deal with the Grisk. Even after episode 9 there are still first order bases, planets, storehouses, ships, and production facilities in the unknown regions. They only showed some resurgent class ships taken out. No one invaded and took out their holdings in the unknown regions. We know they had lots of ISD’s they modified and smaller ships they used in the unknown regions. I’d LOVE to see Zahn write about this. I recently purchased the Zahn 1995 books and his newer books on Audible.
I'm not sure how though. The first order Disney provided us was filled with incompetent commanders. The Grysks have proven to be a highly intelligent force with terrifying ability to subvert civilisations.
More likely the first order simply ignored the Grysks and the Grysks were busy warring with the Chiss who knows.
This sounds like a major post episode 9 storyline to me. Galaxy is fractured. No standing government and likely separate cells of first order in control of spots.
We could have different factions ruling the galaxy. A perfect storm for the a Grysks to invade a galaxy in chaos and turmoil. The resistance may have won but there’s no structure currently. One Jedi cannot fight hordes of the Grysks.
Anyone else feeling that these aliens sound like a discount Yuuzhan Vong?
They sound like a combination of the Yuuzhan Vong and the Covenant from Halo
The Grysks should have been the main villains of the Sequel trilogy
The grysks would perfectly fit into the expanded universe as another faction of the Unknown Regions with a home sector hidden by dense nebulas and gravitational anomalies
Basically: if Thrawn says/thinks something, it is in your best interest to agree if you don't have anything better to offer. However, if you have a better idea, it is better to voice it
Aliens in thumbnail? You mean grineer? Lemme grab my corrosive Boltor
Death troopers was fudging awesome. The description was great and he even added communication between the storm troopers. Before they got turned into zombies. Obviously
I saw the thumbnail and notice the First Order is facing the Grineer Faction.
Cool that the first order had to fight many aliens to survive. Great video
Sounds like the Vong mixed with the Yautja/Predators
Glad to see Tim getting some love. Hope Generation Tech has read his non-trek books. I am particularly fond of Triplet and Spinnerette. . . not to mention the Cobra serieseses.
>Sees thumbnail
Are those Grineer Galleons?
the grineer can almost stop the first order but can't kill a single tenno 99% of the time
@@hazman6784 You know what time it is then. Its nerf Trinity and Catchmoon time, again.
Can’t believe Chiss is a powerful being and independent. Ironically first time I saw a chiss in Jedi Academy game and he working as bartender.
I would have loved to see a game of thrones type conflict between the vong, New republic, resistance, first order, and the sith. But I think they should have done more to make the new sith empire more unique from the first order.
Timothy Zahn is a legend I do have to pick up second Thrawn novel tho
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**Distant "TENNO SCOOM" screaching**
I’m quite intrigued by the kind of Mongol/Hun/Avar inspiration element of the Grysk. The Mongols adapted and adopted tech from clients, made heavy use of scouting but were ultimately defeated by a breakdown of the empire into competing factions. Huns (Black Huns of Attila fame) were more a confederacy with the original nomads only comprising a small amount of the vast power they wielded using subjugated clients. They were defeated by the remnants of the western Roman Empire along with Germanic and other nomadic allies who occupied former Roman lands, their ultimate defeat coming after Attila died and the subjugated people rebelling. Avars devastated the Balkans subjugated the people living there and defeated the Eastern Romans numerous times. They were defeated when The Franks gathered a large army and after defeating them in battle numerous times made it to the almost legendary Avar capital which was an unusual city of many concentric circles. A theme for all was the adaption to their ways of fighting and the use of their warriors as mercenaries before, during and long after their ascendency.
Looking at the possible inspirations there is a lot that could come from this Grysk narrative.
They died trying to save us all from a terrible trilogy of films...even if they failed, it was a noble deed. May their sacrifice never be forgotten.
R.I.P Grysk
Why do I get the feeling Disney is going to mess up the Vong if they ever do get to them.
Probably turn them into a mix of Hellraiser and an organic Borg of sorts.
The Chiss, Vagaari, and now these Grysks, jeez, the Unknowns really are a dangerous place.
I need to know, why are there Grineer gallions in the thumbnail but not in the video?
I don't know
As a W40k, imagine lost to an impure race like xenos 💀
theres been alot of talk of the unknown regions lately like thrawn, snoke, exagoal now the griss makes me think of what Lucas film is planning it has to be something big
There will apparently be a sequel to Rebels where they search for Ezra in the Unknown Regions
@@christophernemeth421 awesome that should be good , I've learned that whatever the man dave filoni does is amazing
"KYLO SKOOOOM!!!!!"
- probably some grineer trying to whack kylo ren
*Sees thumbnail*
Me: are those Grineer ships from warframe?
Can confirm.
Yup
While they may not have been the Vong, the Grysks would still have been far more preferable antagonists for the sequels over that pathetic knockoff of the Empire that we ultimately got.
The Grysks are actually an excellent threat. Their ability to subvert entire civilisations is frankly terrifying and totally unique in star wars.
Some of Legends may be garbbage, but it needed Disney to provide a whole trilogy and surrounding media to dunk the whole thibg ito a brim filled septic tank.
I suppose Kylo Ren is having a really hard time fighting Bigg Dikk.
I love this channel’s vids, if I can make a suggestion, can you guys talk about more Halo lore?
check generation films we talk about it there
They could make a seriously cool trilogy and massive amounts of new content for starwars for this
I like the grineer galleons on the thumbnail
Timothy Zahn one of the greatest authors in existence
The Unknown Region is just The Dark Continent on a galactic scale
Ahh real Star Wars; before Disney bought it and utterly ruined it
Rogue One was good though and the Mandalorian sounds cool. But I largely agree with you.
@@billclark5055 Disney canon is quit stupid (except Rogue One, Solo, TCW S7 and the Mandalorian), but I prefer when the canon is planned and controlled, rather than every author and story maker throwing out their own ideas while contradicting with each others work and messing the timeline without proper enough planning with Lucasfilm.
@@qr-code6334 TCW S7 with Ahsoka capturing Maul was meh. The sisters ARC on Courscant was meh. Otherwise I mainly agree. Fallen Order was good though
@@billclark5055 Ahsoka defeating maul was poor, she should have needed help from the mandalorians and clones. Other than that I agree
Thank You for including Star Citizen imagery into your videos, even if not discussed or mentioned as in 8:37 ... but the RSI Mantis and its interdiction system makes for a good unofficial plug for the game. If you can, would be nice to see a video on SC, and your review of the upcoming game ect. The Mantis shown here is a decent Star Trek'ish design, and really nicely styled on the inside too. The Drake Corsair is more Star Wars'ish.
I think we will find out a lot more about The Gryssk from Thrawn and Ezra since I think they are stuck in their territory or that of their "client species" and we will get our first good look at them in the follow up to Rebels.
Great stuff :) ... I still think that Disney needs to make a movie on Darth Bane. The story itself is so fundamental on the ways of Modern Sith as the rule of 2 was devised by Darth Bane. Plus of course he was the ultimate bad ass!! C'mon peeps insect armor ftw!!! :D ..
While I don’t agree that the Grysk are the “new” Yuuzhan Vong, since I really want more biotechnology, but I do think they’re an interesting species.
Zhan made me realize, way better than the movies did, just how much of a grumpy asshole Vader was. And it makes sense! Take everything that a man cares about away from him forever and he's probably gonna be a pretty unpleasant guy.
Thrawn has another trilogy coming this year about the Chiss ascendency
This sort of story-telling feels more like Star Trek to me.
So you want to tell me grineers were secretly in Star Wars?
It was the Chi'tuari. It's setting up the Marvel-Star Wars cinematic crossover universe. Just look at the thumbnail.
@@dominiqueminor8039 I wasn't being completely serious. I hope that never happens but we all know it will one day. I'll say by 2050.
Disney trilogy is almost barren in terms of content outside of the movies due to reasons that don’t need to be named. It’s always a surprise to see something come out of it.
The alien race was...
**Checks Thumbnail**
...The fucking grineer?
STAR WARS AMD WARFRAME CONFIRMED SAME UNIVERSE!
The Yuuzhan Vong were perfect for the expanded universe
The best way to guarantee a safe and prosperous galaxy is to rid it of its infestation of inferior alien species ( that happen to live on words with valuable resources . )
I see Warframe screenshot on wrewiev. The ships on screenshot do not belong to aliens, but to human clones.
The Gris sound like any generic alien marauder. Bring me the Vong!
7,8, and 9 should have been the Yuuzhan Vong War or Abeloth Saga
I love that he shows grineer ships from warframe
Not all of it, a lot of it is being brought in, general rule of tumb:if it’s in a tv show or movie, in some cases comics, it’s cannon
That’s why republic commando is cannon
What’s with the grineer ships from warframe in the thumbnail?
Is this Disney’s pathetic attempt at stealing the yuuzhan vong arc from the original story
Cant steal what you own.
@@kilroy898 we see differently
@@RocketHarry865 maybe, but disney literally owns starwars so they cant "steal" anything starwars related. It belongs to them.
Maybe steal is the wrong word. Cheap knock-off
@@ajgillies Yeah, that's the right word.
Wait...did I just see a Klingon battle cruiser??
It seems like it's just an attempt to make their own version of the Vong...
Ritualistic warlike race with deformities and bizarre tech? Just sounds like the Vong, and I'd rather just have the Vong than some discount Disney-fied version, and I don't mean that in an elitist way, I mean it as I find the Vong more interesting. Since they were almost shown in the Clone Wars, I'm still holding out a shred of hope they'll be included somehow.
Wdy mean almost shown in Clone Wars?
@@CompaDeArranke There were episodes planned for TCW to have the Vong make an appearance
There is concept art online for TCW showing the Vong and their ships
Now if Disney would take a moment to make some actual ART of the Grysks, that would be nice.