A close co worker was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and when he went in to tell the management of him having it, their reaction was unbelievable. To his face they were very sympathetic, understanding etc, one senior walked with him to the reception front door. The second he got out the manager walked up to the receptionist and insisting that that man not allowed back in the office. My friend had weeks, and was very ill, he asked me to pass on letters to his friends for him, I was asked to a meeting and told in said meeting that I should desist and do not continue correspondence with him or would be let go for assisting him in his misconduct??? - i'm like WTF, turns out that my friend had found a massive fraud being committed by 3 senior management/board members. He never said anything to me, but had all the evidence and had handed the whole thing to Police with a statement in video interviews and written statements. His final act was to go in and taunt them with his knowing what they were doing, for years. ~Trooper
A few years ago I worked for a building company, and asked for a 5% pay rise after not having had one in the 5 years I'd been there. The owner of the company said that "we" ie his company couldn't afford to give me a pay rise as things were very tight. Literally the next day he drove into the carpark in his new $500k Ferrari. I quit the following week.
I was in a similar (but not as bonkers) situation where my previous boss (the guy who sacked me!) asked for info about other people. I told him "everyone thinks you're a dick" then I just laughed until they hung up 😂😂
I had an MD a few years ago that was so arrogant that he boasted about the fact that he never ever forgot a conversation…. Ever! So I became very good at making up conversations (that we never had) …. I must have been convincing as he backed every story up! It was the only way to get anything done…. It was exhausting!
I had one that was a tyrant for making people stick to the rules, and punish anybody for even the slightest thing. He ended up getting 16 years for trying to kill his wife. When he got sent down, loafs of stuff was found in his shed that he'd been nicking from the company for years. I'm not talking a few hundred quid either. I think it was estimated at about £200,000 of stock!
Had a manager exactly like that. She wanted to know exactly what every person did, line by line and scrutinised every little detail. Awful woman made many people really unhappy in work.
The hypocrisy of that boss was laughable. He wanted that lad to grass up his mates for being "petty", so then he could be petty himself. He doesn't need to "deal with it", he needs to reflect on it.
I would have looked at him with a confused look... "It's EVERYBODY, Dude... Everybody hates you, thinks you're doing a terrible job, and constantly express desires that you be fired. Like, EVERYONE."
I didn’t have one exactly like this but I’m reminded of when I quit a job several years ago. I worked in the sample department (we sold fabric and wallpaper so we had mini samples to give to clients) and I had basically reorganized the entire place. I had spreadsheets of what we had available and what had been discontinued and what needed to be reordered etc. Our manager quit, which was no big loss, and we all wanted this one woman to get the position because she knew everything about everything and had been there forever. They hired the damn receptionist. She didn’t do anything ever. She never took messages, she didn’t direct people to their sales people, she didn’t even forward phone calls. Literally all she did was greet people and talk shit about everyone. She came in and asked us to tell her how to do the job and we started to, but then she said she wasn’t going to do anything that wasn’t explicitly written in her job description. Like, on the one hand I get it, but ma’am you are managing a department. You have to actually know what everyone does. I’m quitting so IDGAF at this point and I send her my spreadsheets. She deletes the email. Because keeping track of our inventory isn’t her job. I leave and all of them know I’m going to a wedding out west so there’s going to be a time difference. First Monday after I leave I get woken up in my hotel at 5 AM by the previous manager who quit ringing my cellphone because the new manager didn’t have my number because she desperately needed the spreadsheets that she deleted. I told him I didn’t work there anymore and to have IT try and dig it up in my computer. I ended up working in the same building years later and she was job hunting through the different companies residing there.
The only reason someone that incompetent and disinterested gets a promotion above a better qualified person, is that the one promoted is having an affair with a higher up.
@@StrawberryFieldsNIR i’ll be honest, I don’t think that was the case. We were a major company but we didn’t have a huge number of employees in that office. I can’t think of anyone who would have hired her who would have given her the time of day. I know she wasn’t above bitching to HR, I have a whole other story with both of us about that, so maybe she applied within? I really don’t know.
I just need to say this channel has helped me so much. I am still trying to find a job after being fired. But I am so grateful to know that it really wasn't me and I am not the only person dealing with the crazy that is rampant. 😊❤
I can't believe people like James' boss exist in this world. I've had my share of toxic colleagues and bosses, but this guy is another level of unbelievable. Kudos, James for dealing with him in the right way.
You may have a good hunch. It is quite 50 - 50 posibility that this tale to be just a tale. There is no evidence that any of the situations presented on this channel are true or just fabricated.
@@1zanglangI've worked for similar env. HR was the owner's wife, who setup a lunch for his 50th birthday and invited his brother andi 10yr old nephew. Then, while we are eating messy BBQ roast beef sandwiches, music starts and a stripper did her routine including a lapdance on him. The nephew ran and hid, and I left the room.
I've had a project accountant complain that I ordered a pack of 100 bolts (they come in packs of 100), when i should have ordered the 95 that we needed... Needless to say they didn't last long.
"You want me to rat out my former colleagues? How much is it worth to you?" Just see how many tens of thousands he'll offer. Don't have to take him up on that, of course, but tell your former colleagues what he offered.
More than 30 people from my company have either left or been fired in the last 6 months, and management has the attitude that employees are a dime a dozen and can be replaced. They don't see this as high turnover. The company has about 150 total, so a 20% turnover seems to be acceptable to the CEO. He fired someone just a few days ago because he said she was too loud.
Bad managers and CEOs vary in their sins and inadequacies. But what they so often have in common is their total inability to recognise that - when they lose key people - they lose the best first, because both those people and their next employer recognise their worth.
I am listening and going "oh, that's bad" then "that's really bad", then "wow, that's even worse", then I have to go "wow, even worserer (not a word)". Basically it ended with "how many shades of ultimately fucked up can that be!" in eleven minutes. I have put up with some sexism in my time, but nothing so seriously overt as that lot. No wonder those women quit, as well as the other 30-odd staff. What a nightmare. Good for the woman that quit on the spot. She's a superstar.
I thought the pay had to be really good to put up with a boss like that. But after hearing what he said to the finance lady, I wouldn't work for him for any amount of money.
What a shame you didn’t record the conversation. You could have emailed it to every staff member, including him in the email so he knows everyone has seen it.
I turned down a job while setting up a remote interview because the interviewer required me to have a webcam because they needed to see what I looked like.
The other issue is that the CEO isn't actually running the wider business strategy if hes too far in the details, which is terrible for overall company direction.
This boss is a narcisist. It's always and only about HIM. There's no cure for that. Since you didn't tell him what he wanted to hear, he didn't pay any attention at all. He'll start drawing up his own targets, and attacking them. Everyone should watch their backs, and leave at the earliest opportunity. It will not get any better. It will only get worse. P.S. This boss is a CEO, huh? Maybe someone should write an anonymous letter to the board of directos... Do they hae a clue what this guy is doing to their company? How many good people have been fired or quit?
Wow this sounds so familiar ... CEO effectively copied everything from another company, then bitched and moaned they took to court. He blamed everyone except himself, couldn't deal with it, wouldn't answer phone/email. Left "others" (me) to deal with it ALL. Company barely survived (only through my hard work/long hours) but happily took all the credit afterwards for surviving, and coming out the other side of the court case. Eventually "fired" me because went to a meeting where he gave the normal "excuses" and brought personal life in to it. I tried to say we're not hear as friends (point cut me off) were here to discuss business. Because I said not friends he "sacked" me on the spot. THERE IS SO MUCH MORE!
Ben, please can you do longer shows? We all enjoy this show so much. Having worked in the city for 20 years, this all resonates so much. Look forward to when a new episode drops.
Man, I have stories from one company, but I wouldnt even know where to start. Australian mining company bought out by a CCP owned Chinese company. Was horrible, but amazing at the same time. A cast of characters like nothing else. I should write a book :D
This is the problem with the distribution of capital in neoliberal societies. More often than not, the least able have far greater access to funds than they are worth, while genuinely talented and capable people are left to rot on the sidelines.
I worked as part of the leadership team and head of research, I am highly qualified and have years of experience - my manager told me with amazement over a piece of work, "not just a pretty little thing are you!"
As awful as the CEO is, probably every single person in the company is bad-mouthing the guy. If so, he'd just have to fire everyone, then good luck doing everything himself when he can't even competently do the job he already has.
I’ve said this on numerous occasions, it’s bad managers who are the main reason why good employees leave good companies. As the think that they know better that the employee who’s been doing that job longer that the manager has been with the company
I had these types of bosses try that and they were pissed off that no one would flip on each other. I also dated a few women there and they tried to make a sh case out of by coaxing all of them to say something but not one of them sold me out. I put my notice in and all of them were pissed that they didn't get to fire me . What boss thinks a employee or ex employee will do that and for nothing?
It is getting to where employees need to check if one party consent recording is legal where they are, and then record all interaction with their employer.
When a company refers to management as 'leadership' it's just a buzzword. When a manager refers to himself as a leader, it means he's about power. This one is also delusional... "nurtinging', as if.
Leaders create processes and policies, and managers put them into place. They are two very different roles. Leaders lead by example,they listen to solutions.
@@ciaramc29 Sure. But 'leader' is a description that is bestowed (i.e. - "he is a leader"), not a title. People who say 'I'm a leader' are applying the description for their own aggrandizement. And this person clearly is not a leader.
I worked at an agency where the owner/ceo assigned and monitored parking spaces and passed out the mail every day. Sadly, that wasn't the worst of him...
If you're inspiring 30 people to QUIT working for you, they are going to go out and tell their stories to other people they know in the industry. Pretty soon, you are going to stop receiving quality applicants altogether, which completely serves you right. HORRIBLE BOSSES and HORRIBLE MANAGERS will chase all of the VALUABLE employees out the door, and VALUABLE employees will stop applying. The HORRIBLE BOSSES/MANAGERS will wind up TANKING the business, and I have ZERO SYMPATHY for anyone but the current employees.
I've worked with some agencies in the last year. Just doing production roles and that. But experiencing the toxic behavior of all the senior staff towards agency workers. Where we have huge turnover rates and 0 hour contracts to boot. This channel lets me see that this management / micromanagement is just too poor. I'd kill to speak with HR and have a field day 😂 But it's a shame that these agencies have problems paying their employees (somehow at minimum wage) And paying on time too. There should be fees for employers for when they are slow at paying staff. Since it's very financially possible for late fees to pop up on a 0 hr contract and unreliable pay.
Working in a toxic environment, watching it all fall down around you, you would obviously be thinking about finding another job. But to experience all of this, only to be made redundant before you had a chance to quit - that’s gotta be a win win. You’re paid redundancy AND you can leave to find something better - thank you 😂
Stay in a toxic work environment too long, you can end up with burnout, a mental breakdown, and even PTSD. Guy I know went through this. He was really ashamed for having broken down. His counselor told him "Dripping water wears away stone." It wasn't just the recent crapstorm, but 30+ years working for the same toxic company. He said "I didn't really understand what 'a broken man' meant, until I was one."
It's a shame when people's main goal is to avoid confrontation. James got fired and still didn't want to tell his boss the truth, even just about how he felt towards him. This is partly why these bosses never change.
The boss has no self awareness, instead of asking who’s talking shit about him, ask what they’re upset about. Even if James did tell him how he’s been terrible, he would have just defended his action and goes off on James. People like that don’t listen to others. He’s a total lost cause. If he’s willing to listen, no need to wait for James, others would have told him long ago.
Hypocrisy. Like my Ex Supervisor. Always bragged he wasnt only good at dealing out, but also taking jokes. He was in fact not good at taking jokes or even accepting critique :D
I can see that firm going one way rapidly and that's down through the floor,, as for not having a hr dept I'm no legal eagle but I would suspect that could possibly be illegal depending on how many employees ect, sounds like you were right to be thrilled to be made redundant which is horrible to go through..I wish you well.
We should be able to say who these companies are. I’m sure that would stop this type of behavior from companies. I would never want to work at any of these companies if I knew this type of behavior was going.
Old boss of mine could not let go of the minutiae. She went from running one group to a whole office to a whole division. Still had to be in every meeting, sign off on every document. She would get her employees trapped in endless cycles of revisions of documents. Caught her once with Track Changes in Microsoft Word, having us change A to B, then later having us change B back to A. She screwed this one guy out of the same promotion 3 or 4 times, even though he was already doing the vacant supervisor position's work along with his own. He finally broke down mentally and had to take early retirement.
I had a boss who scolded me and yelled at me because the mobile data for my phone wasn't working, making him unable to call me (my mom and I couldn't afford it at the time). One night I was putting in my tips, he asked if I got my phone fixed, I told him no. He asks me why, I told him my mom and I can't afford it at the moment. He then tells me to go to Cricket and get a cheaper phone. I told him I'm not going to change my phone because of him. He gets really angry and starts going off about how it affects his business and that I don't care, etc. He then asked why can't my brother help out. I said my brother is only visiting for Christmas break and wouldn't be able to. He responded by saying if my brother was really "a man" he'd get a job and help out with the bills (my brother goes to school in another state and was only visiting for Christmas). He then started disrespecting my family by saying my brother is a bitch. I told him, "don't you dare call my brother a bitch". He responds with "Fuck you". Shortly after, he sends me my tip money and tells me to get my phone fixed. I turn around and tell him, "not all of us have a few hundred bucks laying around" and walked out. He was yelling "FUCK YOU" and he called me the n-word as I'm walking out. 3 weeks later, I'm working my usual shift when tells me to clock out and go home. I go to his office and ask him why. He starts giving a bunch of random reasons like I'm "distracting the chefs" and "I'm slow when doing my job", etc. He then asked me why i didn't answer the phone when he called me the day before. I said I had my phone off (I told him I had college that day). Later in the conversation, he gave me an ultimatum. I can either leave voluntarily in the next 5 minutes or he's going to fire me. I put my tips in, clocked out, and drove home. Halfway while driving home, he sends me a text saying I'm fired for "Insubordination"
If it was so, so, soooo important for him to be able to get through to you on a cell phone, then HE should have gone to Cricket and bought you a phone to be used solely for him to contact you. A phone that he would keep loaded with time to be used for when HE wanted to contact you. Let him pay the monthly fees.
Is it bad that when I heard the part about "ratting out his friends". My first thought was, sure, pay me $100,000. Then give him a list of people that have already left the company
I have such an amazing personal story with a former employer, happened to me, witnessing behaviours... a lot of first hand stories from victims over the 7 years spent there. Also second hand (hearsay) stories with that same employer/company that it would only make sense with the scale of the company.... And company culture.... Retaliation with litigations is a heavy burden to speak up about influencing people. Gotta be careful
A CEO who micromanages that much has either been burned badly in the past, or is possibly a narcissist. I know, I know, people overuse that word. However, in this case it sounds like someone who just thinks they know everyone job's better than the person doing it. Also the comment that "he made it all about himself" any time someone else had the attention.
IMO CEO has an eye on closing the company and taking as much cash as possible out of it. Pissing everyone off until they quit is a cheap way to reduce headcount.
That boss reminds me so much of a certain pumpkin coloured former US President who is currently dealing with several massive court cases. His narcissism and micromanaging is thru the roof.
As soon as I heard the first complainant moan about jokes in the office,which is where you get the most ribald and non PC humour out of all workplaces..I thought he's woke. So not all the CEO's blame.
A close co worker was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and when he went in to tell the management of him having it, their reaction was unbelievable. To his face they were very sympathetic, understanding etc, one senior walked with him to the reception front door. The second he got out the manager walked up to the receptionist and insisting that that man not allowed back in the office. My friend had weeks, and was very ill, he asked me to pass on letters to his friends for him, I was asked to a meeting and told in said meeting that I should desist and do not continue correspondence with him or would be let go for assisting him in his misconduct??? - i'm like WTF, turns out that my friend had found a massive fraud being committed by 3 senior management/board members. He never said anything to me, but had all the evidence and had handed the whole thing to Police with a statement in video interviews and written statements. His final act was to go in and taunt them with his knowing what they were doing, for years. ~Trooper
A few years ago I worked for a building company, and asked for a 5% pay rise after not having had one in the 5 years I'd been there. The owner of the company said that "we" ie his company couldn't afford to give me a pay rise as things were very tight. Literally the next day he drove into the carpark in his new $500k Ferrari. I quit the following week.
Nothing sells the story of 'strapped for cash' like a new Ferrari.
I was in a similar (but not as bonkers) situation where my previous boss (the guy who sacked me!) asked for info about other people. I told him "everyone thinks you're a dick" then I just laughed until they hung up 😂😂
Loooollll
"I need you to rat out all the people talking shit about me. "
"It was me. Let me tell you every word I've been saying! I'm so glad you asked!"
I had an MD a few years ago that was so arrogant that he boasted about the fact that he never ever forgot a conversation…. Ever! So I became very good at making up conversations (that we never had) …. I must have been convincing as he backed every story up! It was the only way to get anything done…. It was exhausting!
I had a boss who did this. He ended up getting sack for 4 counts of racketeering and accomplice to homicide. Just goes to show you.
Sounds like you need to come on the show...
I had one that was a tyrant for making people stick to the rules, and punish anybody for even the slightest thing.
He ended up getting 16 years for trying to kill his wife. When he got sent down, loafs of stuff was found in his shed that he'd been nicking from the company for years.
I'm not talking a few hundred quid either. I think it was estimated at about £200,000 of stock!
@@SmileyMack that's a lot of bread to steal. Especially since the depreciation is huge on perishable goods 😉
WHOA lol
@@davidstevens3934 bread?
It was equipment.
Nope. Once you fire me, you're not getting any favors.
my hourly wage is several hundred per hour if i dnt work for you
@@pixies64several hundred.... thousand
@@pixies64 Paid in advance or no deal.
@@pixies64 Right? I'd tell them that my favors are not free. Then I would send a contract agreement for taking me on as an outside consultant, lol.
Man, James handled that phone call really well, especially with being put on the spot like that. Well done to him!
Had a manager exactly like that. She wanted to know exactly what every person did, line by line and scrutinised every little detail. Awful woman made many people really unhappy in work.
The hypocrisy of that boss was laughable.
He wanted that lad to grass up his mates for being "petty", so then he could be petty himself.
He doesn't need to "deal with it", he needs to reflect on it.
Never heard "grass up;" where are you from?
@@Tasarran have you actually read what I commented?
I would have looked at him with a confused look... "It's EVERYBODY, Dude... Everybody hates you, thinks you're doing a terrible job, and constantly express desires that you be fired. Like, EVERYONE."
I didn’t have one exactly like this but I’m reminded of when I quit a job several years ago. I worked in the sample department (we sold fabric and wallpaper so we had mini samples to give to clients) and I had basically reorganized the entire place. I had spreadsheets of what we had available and what had been discontinued and what needed to be reordered etc. Our manager quit, which was no big loss, and we all wanted this one woman to get the position because she knew everything about everything and had been there forever. They hired the damn receptionist. She didn’t do anything ever. She never took messages, she didn’t direct people to their sales people, she didn’t even forward phone calls. Literally all she did was greet people and talk shit about everyone. She came in and asked us to tell her how to do the job and we started to, but then she said she wasn’t going to do anything that wasn’t explicitly written in her job description. Like, on the one hand I get it, but ma’am you are managing a department. You have to actually know what everyone does. I’m quitting so IDGAF at this point and I send her my spreadsheets. She deletes the email. Because keeping track of our inventory isn’t her job. I leave and all of them know I’m going to a wedding out west so there’s going to be a time difference. First Monday after I leave I get woken up in my hotel at 5 AM by the previous manager who quit ringing my cellphone because the new manager didn’t have my number because she desperately needed the spreadsheets that she deleted. I told him I didn’t work there anymore and to have IT try and dig it up in my computer. I ended up working in the same building years later and she was job hunting through the different companies residing there.
The only reason someone that incompetent and disinterested gets a promotion above a better qualified person, is that the one promoted is having an affair with a higher up.
@@StrawberryFieldsNIR i’ll be honest, I don’t think that was the case. We were a major company but we didn’t have a huge number of employees in that office. I can’t think of anyone who would have hired her who would have given her the time of day. I know she wasn’t above bitching to HR, I have a whole other story with both of us about that, so maybe she applied within? I really don’t know.
I just need to say this channel has helped me so much. I am still trying to find a job after being fired. But I am so grateful to know that it really wasn't me and I am not the only person dealing with the crazy that is rampant. 😊❤
I can't believe people like James' boss exist in this world. I've had my share of toxic colleagues and bosses, but this guy is another level of unbelievable. Kudos, James for dealing with him in the right way.
You may have a good hunch. It is quite 50 - 50 posibility that this tale to be just a tale. There is no evidence that any of the situations presented on this channel are true or just fabricated.
@@1zanglangI've worked for similar env. HR was the owner's wife, who setup a lunch for his 50th birthday and invited his brother andi 10yr old nephew. Then, while we are eating messy BBQ roast beef sandwiches, music starts and a stripper did her routine including a lapdance on him. The nephew ran and hid, and I left the room.
I'm afraid I can, because I've had a boss or two like that.
I do believe that's the curse of Andrew Tate and all the other hustle bros
Love it, especially when Ben moves in his chair to set himself right and hear the story 😂!!!!Never rat out your close colleagues.
I've had a project accountant complain that I ordered a pack of 100 bolts (they come in packs of 100), when i should have ordered the 95 that we needed...
Needless to say they didn't last long.
"You want me to rat out my former colleagues? How much is it worth to you?"
Just see how many tens of thousands he'll offer. Don't have to take him up on that, of course, but tell your former colleagues what he offered.
More than 30 people from my company have either left or been fired in the last 6 months, and management has the attitude that employees are a dime a dozen and can be replaced. They don't see this as high turnover. The company has about 150 total, so a 20% turnover seems to be acceptable to the CEO. He fired someone just a few days ago because he said she was too loud.
What football team is that.....
Bad managers and CEOs vary in their sins and inadequacies.
But what they so often have in common is their total inability to recognise that - when they lose key people - they lose the best first, because both those people and their next employer recognise their worth.
I am listening and going "oh, that's bad" then "that's really bad", then "wow, that's even worse", then I have to go "wow, even worserer (not a word)". Basically it ended with "how many shades of ultimately fucked up can that be!" in eleven minutes.
I have put up with some sexism in my time, but nothing so seriously overt as that lot. No wonder those women quit, as well as the other 30-odd staff. What a nightmare.
Good for the woman that quit on the spot. She's a superstar.
I thought the pay had to be really good to put up with a boss like that. But after hearing what he said to the finance lady, I wouldn't work for him for any amount of money.
I have to agree with you! Just simply unacceptable.
Having the freedom to walk away is a real luxury AND a lifesaver.
This is an absolutely wild story, no place for those kinds of comments at work!
Totally agree
Evil people prosper. What a ghastly truth.
When you're celebrating being made redundant something's gotta be seriously wrong!
I agree!
Well he wanted to quit and gets redundancy package yay
What a shame you didn’t record the conversation. You could have emailed it to every staff member, including him in the email so he knows everyone has seen it.
I turned down a job while setting up a remote interview because the interviewer required me to have a webcam because they needed to see what I looked like.
The other issue is that the CEO isn't actually running the wider business strategy if hes too far in the details, which is terrible for overall company direction.
That boss is insane off the wall.
This boss is a narcisist. It's always and only about HIM. There's no cure for that. Since you didn't tell him what he wanted to hear, he didn't pay any attention at all. He'll start drawing up his own targets, and attacking them. Everyone should watch their backs, and leave at the earliest opportunity.
It will not get any better. It will only get worse.
P.S. This boss is a CEO, huh? Maybe someone should write an anonymous letter to the board of directos... Do they hae a clue what this guy is doing to their company? How many good people have been fired or quit?
"Hey mate I know I just made your job redundant but I need you to give me all the beef on your former co-workers"
Hoe Lee Sheet
Sounds like a Member of Management grasping at straws while their Business Fails in a desperate attempt to save it!
When he asked who ratted him out, your words should have been ........
"You Did!"
Wow this sounds so familiar ...
CEO effectively copied everything from another company, then bitched and moaned they took to court. He blamed everyone except himself, couldn't deal with it, wouldn't answer phone/email. Left "others" (me) to deal with it ALL. Company barely survived (only through my hard work/long hours) but happily took all the credit afterwards for surviving, and coming out the other side of the court case.
Eventually "fired" me because went to a meeting where he gave the normal "excuses" and brought personal life in to it. I tried to say we're not hear as friends (point cut me off) were here to discuss business. Because I said not friends he "sacked" me on the spot.
THERE IS SO MUCH MORE!
One rule of law, if a company makes you redundant, they have to offer you that position back if it becomes open again.
In what country?
@@FahadAyaz Are you serious?
By law, the person is not made redundant. The job is.
@@alexanderevanska4274 That's not true in the UK. Where is it true?
Ben, please can you do longer shows? We all enjoy this show so much. Having worked in the city for 20 years, this all resonates so much. Look forward to when a new episode drops.
When people get together after leaving a toxic workplace, it's kind of like 'war stories'.
I'd take the opportunity to rat out myself (since I'm already out...) and tell him everything wrong with him...
Man, I have stories from one company, but I wouldnt even know where to start.
Australian mining company bought out by a CCP owned Chinese company. Was horrible, but amazing at the same time. A cast of characters like nothing else. I should write a book :D
"What can be done?" "Don't tell me what to do!" Then don't feckin ask!
Boss: who is ratting me out?
Ex-employee: YOU!
"So--sorry...we're not at the spicy bit yet?"
Bosses like this really put the "narc" in "narcissist"...
This is the problem with the distribution of capital in neoliberal societies. More often than not, the least able have far greater access to funds than they are worth, while genuinely talented and capable people are left to rot on the sidelines.
I worked as part of the leadership team and head of research, I am highly qualified and have years of experience - my manager told me with amazement over a piece of work, "not just a pretty little thing are you!"
People quit management
As awful as the CEO is, probably every single person in the company is bad-mouthing the guy. If so, he'd just have to fire everyone, then good luck doing everything himself when he can't even competently do the job he already has.
I’ve said this on numerous occasions, it’s bad managers who are the main reason why good employees leave good companies. As the think that they know better that the employee who’s been doing that job longer that the manager has been with the company
I had these types of bosses try that and they were pissed off that no one would flip on each other.
I also dated a few women there and they tried to make a sh case out of by coaxing all of them to say something but not one of them sold me out.
I put my notice in and all of them were pissed that they didn't get to fire me .
What boss thinks a employee or ex employee will do that and for nothing?
It is getting to where employees need to check if one party consent recording is legal where they are, and then record all interaction with their employer.
This boss is totally insecure.
When a company refers to management as 'leadership' it's just a buzzword.
When a manager refers to himself as a leader, it means he's about power. This one is also delusional... "nurtinging', as if.
Leaders create processes and policies, and managers put them into place. They are two very different roles. Leaders lead by example,they listen to solutions.
@@ciaramc29 Sure. But 'leader' is a description that is bestowed (i.e. - "he is a leader"), not a title. People who say 'I'm a leader' are applying the description for their own aggrandizement. And this person clearly is not a leader.
I worked at an agency where the owner/ceo assigned and monitored parking spaces and passed out the mail every day.
Sadly, that wasn't the worst of him...
If you're inspiring 30 people to QUIT working for you, they are going to go out and tell their stories to other people they know in the industry. Pretty soon, you are going to stop receiving quality applicants altogether, which completely serves you right. HORRIBLE BOSSES and HORRIBLE MANAGERS will chase all of the VALUABLE employees out the door, and VALUABLE employees will stop applying. The HORRIBLE BOSSES/MANAGERS will wind up TANKING the business, and I have ZERO SYMPATHY for anyone but the current employees.
I would have said Everyone is talking bad about you. EVERYONE!
Once the finance team quits, the company is done for. I also heard him say that the second in command also left? He just killed the company,.
I've worked with some agencies in the last year. Just doing production roles and that.
But experiencing the toxic behavior of all the senior staff towards agency workers. Where we have huge turnover rates and 0 hour contracts to boot.
This channel lets me see that this management / micromanagement is just too poor.
I'd kill to speak with HR and have a field day 😂
But it's a shame that these agencies have problems paying their employees (somehow at minimum wage)
And paying on time too.
There should be fees for employers for when they are slow at paying staff. Since it's very financially possible for late fees to pop up on a 0 hr contract and unreliable pay.
Working in a toxic environment, watching it all fall down around you, you would obviously be thinking about finding another job. But to experience all of this, only to be made redundant before you had a chance to quit - that’s gotta be a win win.
You’re paid redundancy AND you can leave to find something better - thank you 😂
Stay in a toxic work environment too long, you can end up with burnout, a mental breakdown, and even PTSD. Guy I know went through this. He was really ashamed for having broken down. His counselor told him "Dripping water wears away stone." It wasn't just the recent crapstorm, but 30+ years working for the same toxic company. He said "I didn't really understand what 'a broken man' meant, until I was one."
It's a shame when people's main goal is to avoid confrontation. James got fired and still didn't want to tell his boss the truth, even just about how he felt towards him. This is partly why these bosses never change.
Victim blaming? Not cool
The boss has no self awareness, instead of asking who’s talking shit about him, ask what they’re upset about. Even if James did tell him how he’s been terrible, he would have just defended his action and goes off on James. People like that don’t listen to others. He’s a total lost cause. If he’s willing to listen, no need to wait for James, others would have told him long ago.
He was actually really kind and helpful to his boss's request. I would've said, "Hahahahahaaaaaaa. No."
Hypocrisy. Like my Ex Supervisor. Always bragged he wasnt only good at dealing out, but also taking jokes. He was in fact not good at taking jokes or even accepting critique :D
I can see that firm going one way rapidly and that's down through the floor,, as for not having a hr dept I'm no legal eagle but I would suspect that could possibly be illegal depending on how many employees ect, sounds like you were right to be thrilled to be made redundant which is horrible to go through..I wish you well.
The guy is a right mess. 🙄
We should be able to say who these companies are. I’m sure that would stop this type of behavior from companies. I would never want to work at any of these companies if I knew this type of behavior was going.
Old boss of mine could not let go of the minutiae. She went from running one group to a whole office to a whole division. Still had to be in every meeting, sign off on every document. She would get her employees trapped in endless cycles of revisions of documents. Caught her once with Track Changes in Microsoft Word, having us change A to B, then later having us change B back to A. She screwed this one guy out of the same promotion 3 or 4 times, even though he was already doing the vacant supervisor position's work along with his own. He finally broke down mentally and had to take early retirement.
I had a boss who scolded me and yelled at me because the mobile data for my phone wasn't working, making him unable to call me (my mom and I couldn't afford it at the time). One night I was putting in my tips, he asked if I got my phone fixed, I told him no. He asks me why, I told him my mom and I can't afford it at the moment. He then tells me to go to Cricket and get a cheaper phone. I told him I'm not going to change my phone because of him. He gets really angry and starts going off about how it affects his business and that I don't care, etc. He then asked why can't my brother help out. I said my brother is only visiting for Christmas break and wouldn't be able to. He responded by saying if my brother was really "a man" he'd get a job and help out with the bills (my brother goes to school in another state and was only visiting for Christmas). He then started disrespecting my family by saying my brother is a bitch. I told him, "don't you dare call my brother a bitch". He responds with "Fuck you". Shortly after, he sends me my tip money and tells me to get my phone fixed. I turn around and tell him, "not all of us have a few hundred bucks laying around" and walked out. He was yelling "FUCK YOU" and he called me the n-word as I'm walking out.
3 weeks later, I'm working my usual shift when tells me to clock out and go home. I go to his office and ask him why. He starts giving a bunch of random reasons like I'm "distracting the chefs" and "I'm slow when doing my job", etc. He then asked me why i didn't answer the phone when he called me the day before. I said I had my phone off (I told him I had college that day). Later in the conversation, he gave me an ultimatum. I can either leave voluntarily in the next 5 minutes or he's going to fire me. I put my tips in, clocked out, and drove home. Halfway while driving home, he sends me a text saying I'm fired for "Insubordination"
If it was so, so, soooo important for him to be able to get through to you on a cell phone, then HE should have gone to Cricket and bought you a phone to be used solely for him to contact you. A phone that he would keep loaded with time to be used for when HE wanted to contact you. Let him pay the monthly fees.
Is it bad that when I heard the part about "ratting out his friends". My first thought was, sure, pay me $100,000. Then give him a list of people that have already left the company
Hi Ben, currently going though something weird at work and was wondering how I could get in touch to get your thoughts on it. Thanks
I have such an amazing personal story with a former employer, happened to me, witnessing behaviours... a lot of first hand stories from victims over the 7 years spent there. Also second hand (hearsay) stories with that same employer/company that it would only make sense with the scale of the company.... And company culture....
Retaliation with litigations is a heavy burden to speak up about influencing people. Gotta be careful
A CEO who micromanages that much has either been burned badly in the past, or is possibly a narcissist. I know, I know, people overuse that word. However, in this case it sounds like someone who just thinks they know everyone job's better than the person doing it. Also the comment that "he made it all about himself" any time someone else had the attention.
I'm so glad I worked in The Nhs. It's so much saner.
Mind you, orthopaedic surgeons are a bit of a handful.
NHS has other challenges at the moment! But yes I agree with you
Have you considered he's doing coke on regular basis?
That’s what great about unions you can leave a shit job whenever you want and go sign the book and get another one
Sounds like Founder's Syndrome!
Hi Ben I have a lovely story for you but can't find an email to get in touch with you can you please help
IMO CEO has an eye on closing the company and taking as much cash as possible out of it. Pissing everyone off until they quit is a cheap way to reduce headcount.
Please tell me this is a pseudonym because his viewers Ben Askin for more of his content.
Is this Twinkl?
I really need to talk to you to tell me my recent story.
That boss reminds me so much of a certain pumpkin coloured former US President who is currently dealing with several massive court cases. His narcissism and micromanaging is thru the roof.
It's IQ not EQ
I think it might be both in this case!
EQ = Emotional Quotient
As soon as I heard the first complainant moan about jokes in the office,which is where you get the most ribald and non PC humour out of all workplaces..I thought he's woke. So not all the CEO's blame.