Love Zsa Zsa. She was on Phil Donahue and a young pretty feminist was hating on her, calling her a disgrace to women. Zsa Zsa tore her up. Made her look like an idiot. You do not mess with people who survived two world wars.
I'm Eternally grateful for the person or persons responsible for allowing me to watch this show, I never got to see when it was on tv. But I'm enjoying each episode I watch now. I 🤗😘🙂✌❤🖖🦋✨🌠🌻🧘♀️🌷👍💯💜👏👏👏🖖.Love,respect and positivity always. Neita James. 🙂👋.
Both Zas Zsa and Eva were amazingly beautiful in their time. No wonder John Daily loved those small conferences I could listen to them talk all day as well
I just finished watching Green Acres for the second time. I love Eva Gabor. I only know Zsa Zsa from her guest appearance on "The Facts of Life." I don't really know her
Dorothy had the cutest giggle, Arlene had the warmest smile, Bennett had the biggest grin, and I always love it when John collapses into a fit of hearty laughter!
Wow, so cool. Glad I watched until the end. My old gym teacher at Ridge School (Ridgewood, NJ) was Mr. Napier. Got to be that the last contestant was his wife. He was a great guy, and loved by all the kids at Ridge. Hope she is still alive, and may see this.
She was alive at the time of your comment...but no longer...having died in Dec 2016, a couple of months short of her 100th birthday. And, she was a shell of her former glamorous self, having gone downhill from the time of a 2002 car accident, at about age 85, that left her partially paralyzed. And, the last 5 years of her life she was on life support. It was sort of pathetic that her last (9th) husband was sort of living off her fame, even though she no longer retained anything that had made her famous! Interestingly, the subject of a long-running feud & legal suit she ultimately lost...Elke Sommer (another blonde "bombshell", more than 20 years Zsa Zsa's junior) is still alive (and happily married) at age 81 as of spring 2022. What perplexes me is why Zsa Zsa took on that first name (which means Lily & is the Hungarian form of Susan) when her real first name was Sari...which is as attractive, and even exotic, as Zsa Zsa. But, I guess you have to hand it to Zsa Zsa for turning herself into a brand that endured for decades, making the most of what she had. That's not to say that she wasn't naturally pretty, but she was also not the stunning blonde bombshell that she created. Here she is, brunette and natural, at age 19: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Zsa-Zsa_1936.jpg
Wowwe! 43 and still so incredibly hot!! Her bubbly personality really adds to her attractiveness. It's now July of 2016 and she's still kicking at 99 years old.
I love when Dorothy raises her hand to ask a question after the guest is guessed. So cute and polite. And could Bennett really have had that much heat with Dorothy if he convinced her to write a book?
I get so upset when I see Arlene Francis heart pendant. She wore it for nearly every episode of the show, only to be robbed in New York in the 1980s. The thief took it from her.
I remember the story. I was a kid and didn't understand the context at the time. I didn't know here. I didn't know about the pendant. Now that I do know I can be upset about it as a fan would.
MrVidaeverdade There is a long history of hollywood 'stars' saying "do you know who I am?" when confronted by the cops. As if being famous they should be immune from the law.
Bennett formally presenting John with a gavel, and then running away before he can get smacked, was hilarious! Not to mention Bennett's big triumphant grin around 11:49, upon correctly figuring out the lobster lady's profession. The back-and-forth banter between these two is so charming and adorable to watch!
Alan King was a fun comic and fine actor ("The Helen Morgan Story," is a favorite). I well recall his Las Vegas tennis tournament (bearing his name) which he sponsored and championed back in the day (with the top male players participating). For some years (1950's and 60's) Mr. King was the opening act for Judy Garland as she did her concerts all over America. Alan became close to Judy, and her then husband, Sid Luft. There was a wonderful quote, from Mr. King, about Judy, that I love: "On a good night, there was no one better, and when she was a bit "off," she was still pretty good." Thank you Mr. King! P.S. Our Zsa Zsa was fun and lovely as always.
I remember Alan King for three things: 1) Huge tennis fan 2) A stock joke that went along the lines of this: "I've been married for 36 wonderful years ... 39 in all. 3) He made a routine out of the obituary section of the newspaper to show the difference between men and women. All the women were predeceased by their husbands. All the men were survived by their wives. As it turned out, he was only married once, in 1947, and was survived by his wife when he died in 2004. ruclips.net/video/YoGgbxX8iko/видео.html
I saw Alan King live in his show at a Atlantic City, doing his "survived by his wife" schtick. Each time he read an except of another obituary, ...each time for an older and older decedent, survived by his wife...he got louder and louder. By the time he got to Mr. Pierce (of Merrill, Lynch, Pierce, Fenner & Smith fame) he was screaming: " E. A. Pierce, died, age 100...SURVIVED BY HIS WIFE, AGE 101". It was hysterical, and the audience loved it.,
Bennett did a brilliant line of questioning relating Rockland, Maine to lobster fishing, based only on his knowledge of geography and local industries. And yet that segment is not nearly as entertaining for the home audience because it's over so quickly. I wonder if any of those skeptics who are convinced that the show was rigged have considered how dull it would be if the panel always knew what the contestants' lines were? As Bennett said in his oral history interview, the panel weren't good enough actors to pretend not to know something that they'd been clued in about. So if the show had really been rigged, it would always have been as perfunctory as the lobster-fisher segment and would never have gotten its ratings or lasted seventeen years on TV.
Well said, Neil. I would add that many times throughout the show's run, Bennett's guesses based on the industry of a contestant's location were flat wrong. I have to ask: are you going through the shows for a third time? This comment of yours show up as being from 10 months ago, while a comment further up in which you were going through a second time was 3 years ago. I'm on my second pass through now.
@@mikejschin You're right that Bennett's guesses based on his knowledge of the industries of a town didn't always work, but at least they were reasonable tries based on experience, not wild in any way. Further proof that he wasn't being fed the answers. Yes, this is my third chronological pass...since I left the message above (10 months ago as I write this in June 2021) I've only gone as far as the 1963 shows. Have you joined the Facebook What's My Line group yet? Someone as avid as you would be able to make good contributions and enjoy the conversation there.
@@neilmidkiff Sorry, but no Facebook for me. If that ever changes, I'll be sure to look up the group, though. Meanwhile, I'll be content with the discussion on this site. I often skipped the comments the first time through but am reading them all this time.
Amazing! I think Mr. Cerf was well read from childhood. His field of endeavor as a publisher must have come from his love of reading and learning. It's like a thirst for knowledge of people, places and things. He probably lived at the local library and had all of the Encyclopedias of the day. Lol!
I remember seeing Zsa Zsa a lot on chat shows in the 1980s and early 90s, especially around the time she was in trouble for hitting that Beverly Hills cop. I knew her name but had no idea who she really was or what she was famous for. Seems even in 1960 people didn't know what box to put her in, although she would have made that Queen of the Universe film only a couple of years before!!
At 17:10 when Bennett Cerf asks the 'mystery guest' if she had just celebrated her 22nd birthday he was most likely making a reference to NATALIE WOOD who had turned 22 just days earlier with great fanfare & celebration.
What distinguished looking young men of West Point, one of my past clients was an instructor at West Point, he was a Brigadier general. He was in his 80's when I was his caregiver in the early 2,000's. I wonder did they cross paths. He also wrote a column for the news paper for a short while. Maybe I can try to contact his son who's also went to West Point while his father was there. I learn a lot from this game show. It's kinds educational to me. Lot's of interesting subjects and facts, also some 'off the wall.' Thanks for the videos
Alan King asked Zsa Zsa if they had appeared in any films together. I was unaware until recently that King had appeared in movies. I saw his first one, "Hit the Deck," in which he played a Navy MP. Not a particularly memorable appearance. This was years before this WML appearance.
So there are several articles from around this time about Mrs. Pomroy and her husband, many of which spell it Pomeroy because why not? Ralph (the husband) is/was also a lobster fisherman/trapper. They mention carefully that Mrs. Pomroy has to have a winter job as well, but then never say what her winter job IS. I shake my fist at them. She appears to have either divorced her husband, or her husband died. In any case, she married someone named Stone and now goes by Nancy Pomroy-Stone, and was on the South Thomaston Planning Board in the 80s, as well as, simultaneously, being the code enforcement officer. (This seems odd to me, but then, it's a small town.) I dunno what she's doing now, but she's alive, in her late 70s, and still living'in South Thomaston.
I came in to the comments section because that’s one of my favorite things about the show, that so many people leave insightful comments about what the people are doing later in their lives. I really wanted to see what had happened to this guest (the lobster fisherman) because she seemed so bright and intelligent that I figured she would go on to do something in politics in the town or something like that. Thanks for the update! I wonder if she has ever come on here to see this old episode!
Listening carefully on my second pass through these shows, I notice that at 3:45 John says "salaried, and deal in services". Even suppressing the plural noun subject, he uses English so carefully that he makes "deal" agree with the plural, rather than the singular "[he or she] deals." If the panel had picked up on his scrupulous grammar, it wouldn't have been necessary to ask about "more than one contestant." I suppose he could have hidden this clue by saying "dealing in services" but it doesn't matter; the panel didn't catch it.
Ah Zsa Zsa. Character for sure, Arlene. This appearance happened within a couple of years of a memorable guest panelist appearance in which she was tasked to ask one question in a row but she generated huge laughs throughout. That night, Martin Gabel and Bennett Cerf buzzed around her like bees round a honey pot. A little embarrassing that the panel obsessed over her age over and over and over, Dorothy.
Interesting a friend of mine was in The Battle of the Bulge, he was a General. He taught at West Point. His son also went there. He may have crossed paths with the contestants from West Point. Small world.
There were three gorgeous Gabor sisters Zsa Zsa, Eva and Magda. Someone asked Zsa Zsa which of them is the oldest and she said "Mama is but she'd never admit it." Mother Jolie Gabor was a well known Jeweler in Beverly Hills and was on the show once.
I love Zsa Zsa! That was hilarious how she shuts down John daly at the end. And then John rolls his eyes as she walks over to the panel, as if to say "who does this lady think she is?" Ironically she became way more famous and most people know who Zsa Zsa was. But not even a lot of Baby Boomers remember that guy named John Daly, a TV game show host and talking head newscaster from the 50s. Gotta go a generation older than that before you get widespread recognition.
My brother spent a tour in Vietnam, in the 60's. Then came back and went to West Point. While there, being very young, he and his friend snuck out, got burgers, and snuck back in. Thought they wouldn't get caught if they just made a quick trip. However, caught they were. Instructer made them eat every bite of those burgers in the shower with water going on full blast. After graduating he went back to Vietnam. Of course, General Westmoreland was in charge, at that time.
O M G!!!!! WESTMORELAND BECAME A GENERAL . AND HEADED ALL U.S. TROOPS in a country, then called, SOUTH VIET NAM. TENS OF THOUSANDS OF U.S.. SOLDIERS died under his command, and GOD ONLY KNOWS how many VIETNAMESE. WOW! IF only he had stayed WEST POINT !!!
8:27 The alacrity with which Gen. Westmoreland got up (before John had even identified him to the panel) probably indicates how uncomfortable it was having to share a chair with someone. I've always wondered who had the most uncomfortable position? The one next to John or the one on the outside?
When the name plates appear on camera, you will notice that Alan King is one of the few guest panelists who name plate has both names, not Mr. King. The only other guest panelists that come to mind whose name plates had both names are Orson Bean and Joan Murray.
Those WML Panellists’ names defined in full. Cerf - (i) An overbearing a rather pompous person who makes creepy remarks to females. (ii) A Pisstaker (iii) A Smartarse.
At 12:15, Dorothy talks about a prior episode with a woman lobster fisherman in which they discussed whether lobster was eaten raw. For the life of me, I can't remember that conversation, even though this is my second time through the series. Was that in a lost episode, or am I losing my memory (even more than I thought)?
Unbeknownst to me until now, this show did a Special Community Chest Edition on September 27, 1953 in the afternoon, on all the major networks. A kinescope of the episode was rediscovered a few years back. Was that the only time the show did a special episode, during the regular 1950-1967 run?
Thought Zsa Zsa came off as pretentious and annoying here, with her “squeaks” for answers. The last contestant was the real beauty on this episode, classy, elegant and so lovely - too bad they ran out of time.
92balthazar Oddly enough I think it's equally witty now as it would've been then. It's edgy....and it's still edgy. So not sure I agree with you! Sadly, someone in the public eye can be ruined just as much now by being 'inappropriately' termed a Communist as they would've been a handful of years prior to this show.
@@davidsanderson5918 I don't think you understand my original comment: her remark showed that same-sex marriage was unthinkable at the time. This is evident from the audience reaction. This is what I was referring to. Perhaps your mention of communism refers to another moment in the show?
MagicalKid It's a SLOPPY edit which still reveals what was shown during the ad break when these shows were re-run several decades later. They happen in HUNDREDS of episodes and it gets on my wick.
nowvoyagerNE Just a guess... if there were more than one chair, the panelists would see that fact (before being blindfolded) and have a vital piece of information.
oldwestguy They also use one chair for multiples in non-blindfolded appearances. It was more due to the cameras of the day not being able to pan as well as they do today, so they wanted to keep them pointed without movement and crop in the guests with John Daly. Two chairs may have put them too far apart for that.
@@davidsanderson5918: this isn't rocket science, Dave! the celebs have blind folds on...unless the staff are complete klutzes, they should be able to add a chair to the set undetected while the audience is oooing and ahhing.
People seem struck by this. There are hundreds of things that are different now compared to what was happening when this 1960 black and white TV panel show was made. So what?
11:33 Seriously, how did Bennet know right off, that her career had anything to do with the sea? Was she salty or something? 😕😆 smh. Definitely made it look like they cheat on this show.
Those WML Panellists’ names defined in full. Cerf - (i) An overbearing and rather pompous person who makes creepy remarks to females. (ii) A Pisstaker (iii) A Smartarse.
Thomas Eagleton was a guest when he was DA in St Louis, long before he became a senator. And of course Gen Westmoreland became very famous. Samuel Pierce who appeared while a state judge became HUD Secretary.
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Love Zsa Zsa. She was on Phil Donahue and a young pretty feminist was hating on her, calling her a disgrace to women. Zsa Zsa tore her up. Made her look like an idiot. You do not mess with people who survived two world wars.
And are Jewish
This is the only show I've watched that has me grinning the whole time.
Are you high on sugar puffs at the time courtesy of Mr Kellogg?
John Daly was such a gentleman. Watching him and the panel one realizes how civilized life used to be.
It still is in my household. I won’t stand for anything less than the pursuit of excellence.
I'm Eternally grateful for the person or persons responsible for allowing me to watch this show, I never got to see when it was on tv. But I'm enjoying each episode I watch now. I 🤗😘🙂✌❤🖖🦋✨🌠🌻🧘♀️🌷👍💯💜👏👏👏🖖.Love,respect and positivity always. Neita James. 🙂👋.
I could listen to the Gabor sisters talk all day. I love that accent.
The Aphotic Atrocity If you go to Hungary you can hear this accent all day.
Both Zas Zsa and Eva were amazingly beautiful in their time. No wonder John Daily loved those small conferences I could listen to them talk all day as well
I just finished watching Green Acres for the second time. I love Eva Gabor. I only know Zsa Zsa from her guest appearance on "The Facts of Life." I don't really know her
@@kristabrewer9363 Zsa Zsa, for better or worse, was the first modern celebrity, famous for being famous.
@@preppysocks209 She was an actress who became a socialite. She WAS NOT famous for being famous.
Glamourous Zsa Zsa was 43 when this was filmed. She turned 98 this year.
lasuvidaboy Wow! Are Available and EVs still here? Who was eldest?
Angela Joseph Magda Gabor
Zsa Zsa lived to be 99 ... Died less than two months before her 100th birthday.
I think Dorothy Kilgallan 's giggle is so adorable!
Dorothy had the cutest giggle, Arlene had the warmest smile, Bennett had the biggest grin, and I always love it when John collapses into a fit of hearty laughter!
I find it rather irritating. That thong mask too … wtf is that all about?
Arlene is 53 in this program. She was always classy and beautiful.
Wow, so cool. Glad I watched until the end. My old gym teacher at Ridge School (Ridgewood, NJ) was Mr. Napier. Got to be that the last contestant was his wife. He was a great guy, and loved by all the kids at Ridge. Hope she is still alive, and may see this.
Zsa Zsa Gabor was a beautiful lady in her prime years. And she is still living! That in and of itself is a beautiful thing!
She was alive at the time of your comment...but no longer...having died in Dec 2016, a couple of months short of her 100th birthday. And, she was a shell of her former glamorous self, having gone downhill from the time of a 2002 car accident, at about age 85, that left her partially paralyzed. And, the last 5 years of her life she was on life support. It was sort of pathetic that her last (9th) husband was sort of living off her fame, even though she no longer retained anything that had made her famous!
Interestingly, the subject of a long-running feud & legal suit she ultimately lost...Elke Sommer (another blonde "bombshell", more than 20 years Zsa Zsa's junior) is still alive (and happily married) at age 81 as of spring 2022.
What perplexes me is why Zsa Zsa took on that first name (which means Lily & is the Hungarian form of Susan) when her real first name was Sari...which is as attractive, and even exotic, as Zsa Zsa. But, I guess you have to hand it to Zsa Zsa for turning herself into a brand that endured for decades, making the most of what she had. That's not to say that she wasn't naturally pretty, but she was also not the stunning blonde bombshell that she created. Here she is, brunette and natural, at age 19: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Zsa-Zsa_1936.jpg
I have always got a kick out of Zsa Zsa!!!
Wowwe! 43 and still so incredibly hot!! Her bubbly personality really adds to her attractiveness.
It's now July of 2016 and she's still kicking at 99 years old.
How old is JLO ?
Interesting that Arlene stood to shake hands with the two military men. The lady panelists rarely stand to greet anyone.
When it's a show of respect they do
They do with older women that I've seen. Respecting their elders.
I love when Dorothy raises her hand to ask a question after the guest is guessed. So cute and polite. And could Bennett really have had that much heat with Dorothy if he convinced her to write a book?
Arlene looks paticulary beautiful in this episode
The thing about Arlene is: she's not "pretty" in the usual sense. But her inner beauty just shines out like the light of the Buddha.
We all know Eva and Green Acres. They were all dolls. But Zsa Zsa definitely had the flair!
I get so upset when I see Arlene Francis heart pendant. She wore it for nearly every episode of the show, only to be robbed in New York in the 1980s. The thief took it from her.
😢
I remember the story. I was a kid and didn't understand the context at the time. I didn't know here. I didn't know about the pendant. Now that I do know I can be upset about it as a fan would.
I saw/heard somewhere she had a duplicate created...not the same with such loving memories and sentiment for her from the original!!!
How awful! Such a shame. It was beautiful; I'm sure the duplicate didn't hd the same sentiment as the original.
@@toddsubjent7142 A jewellery designer called Jose Hess gifted her a similar one. you can find the pictures online
Zsa Zsa is gorgeous 😍
moldalxx Such a lovely, classy, beautiful lady....quite clever, too....
hairyscotman Believe me there are more where she comes from.
+hairyscotman She wasn't too classy when she slapped that cop.
MrVidaeverdade
There is a long history of hollywood 'stars' saying "do you know who I am?" when confronted by the cops. As if being famous they should be immune from the law.
The most gorgeous of the Gabor sisters.
Bennett formally presenting John with a gavel, and then running away before he can get smacked, was hilarious! Not to mention Bennett's big triumphant grin around 11:49, upon correctly figuring out the lobster lady's profession. The back-and-forth banter between these two is so charming and adorable to watch!
General Westmoreland in younger and happier days before he got embroiled with LBJ and Vietnam
That Ms. Napier, last guest, was lovely and her hairdo and dress were SO cool. I'd love to wear that today.:))
I just love the way Zsa Zsa teases by not automatically appearing from behind the curtain. John was baffled when he didn't instantly hear applause.
Zsa zsa played them brilliantly lol
Alan King was a fun comic and fine actor ("The Helen Morgan Story," is a favorite). I well recall his Las Vegas tennis tournament (bearing his name) which he sponsored and championed back in the day (with the top male players participating). For some years (1950's and 60's) Mr. King was the opening act for Judy Garland as she did her concerts all over America. Alan became close to Judy, and her then husband, Sid Luft. There was a wonderful quote, from Mr. King, about Judy, that I love: "On a good night, there was no one better, and when she was a bit "off," she was still pretty good." Thank you Mr. King! P.S. Our Zsa Zsa was fun and lovely as always.
Miss Zsa Zsa did a quite fancy stroll to the contestant's seat. She rather floated. Lol!
I remember Alan King for three things:
1) Huge tennis fan
2) A stock joke that went along the lines of this: "I've been married for 36 wonderful years ... 39 in all.
3) He made a routine out of the obituary section of the newspaper to show the difference between men and women. All the women were predeceased by their husbands. All the men were survived by their wives.
As it turned out, he was only married once, in 1947, and was survived by his wife when he died in 2004.
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I saw Alan King live in his show at a Atlantic City, doing his "survived by his wife" schtick. Each time he read an except of another obituary, ...each time for an older and older decedent, survived by his wife...he got louder and louder. By the time he got to Mr. Pierce (of Merrill, Lynch, Pierce, Fenner & Smith fame) he was screaming: " E. A. Pierce, died, age 100...SURVIVED BY HIS WIFE, AGE 101". It was hysterical, and the audience loved it.,
@@olenfersoi8887 I saw him at the Latin Casino when I was 11.
She knew how to control the room!
My friend was a Brigadier General when he taught at West Point. He never got over losing soldiers during the Battle of the Bulge.
Fell down the rabbit hole of watching Zsa Zsa videos. Oh she’s so lovely and charming, absolutely stunning. Proud to be Hungarian like her.
Bennett did a brilliant line of questioning relating Rockland, Maine to lobster fishing, based only on his knowledge of geography and local industries. And yet that segment is not nearly as entertaining for the home audience because it's over so quickly. I wonder if any of those skeptics who are convinced that the show was rigged have considered how dull it would be if the panel always knew what the contestants' lines were? As Bennett said in his oral history interview, the panel weren't good enough actors to pretend not to know something that they'd been clued in about. So if the show had really been rigged, it would always have been as perfunctory as the lobster-fisher segment and would never have gotten its ratings or lasted seventeen years on TV.
Well said, Neil. I would add that many times throughout the show's run, Bennett's guesses based on the industry of a contestant's location were flat wrong.
I have to ask: are you going through the shows for a third time? This comment of yours show up as being from 10 months ago, while a comment further up in which you were going through a second time was 3 years ago. I'm on my second pass through now.
@@mikejschin You're right that Bennett's guesses based on his knowledge of the industries of a town didn't always work, but at least they were reasonable tries based on experience, not wild in any way. Further proof that he wasn't being fed the answers.
Yes, this is my third chronological pass...since I left the message above (10 months ago as I write this in June 2021) I've only gone as far as the 1963 shows. Have you joined the Facebook What's My Line group yet? Someone as avid as you would be able to make good contributions and enjoy the conversation there.
@@neilmidkiff Sorry, but no Facebook for me. If that ever changes, I'll be sure to look up the group, though. Meanwhile, I'll be content with the discussion on this site. I often skipped the comments the first time through but am reading them all this time.
Amazing! I think Mr. Cerf was well read from childhood. His field of endeavor as a publisher must have come from his love of reading and learning. It's like a thirst for knowledge of people, places and things. He probably lived at the local library and had all of the Encyclopedias of the day. Lol!
I'm going to use the word 'purview' in general conversation after this!
I remember seeing Zsa Zsa a lot on chat shows in the 1980s and early 90s, especially around the time she was in trouble for hitting that Beverly Hills cop. I knew her name but had no idea who she really was or what she was famous for. Seems even in 1960 people didn't know what box to put her in, although she would have made that Queen of the Universe film only a couple of years before!!
At 17:10 when Bennett Cerf asks the 'mystery guest' if she had just celebrated her 22nd birthday
he was most likely making a reference to NATALIE WOOD who had turned 22 just days earlier
with great fanfare & celebration.
What distinguished looking young men of West Point, one of my past clients was an instructor at West Point, he was a Brigadier general. He was in his 80's when I was his caregiver in the early 2,000's. I wonder did they cross paths. He also wrote a column for the news paper for a short while. Maybe I can try to contact his son who's also went to West Point while his father was there. I learn a lot from this game show. It's kinds educational to me. Lot's of interesting subjects and facts, also some 'off the wall.' Thanks for the videos
Alan King asked Zsa Zsa if they had appeared in any films together. I was unaware until recently that King had appeared in movies. I saw his first one, "Hit the Deck," in which he played a Navy MP. Not a particularly memorable appearance. This was years before this WML appearance.
He also played ‘second idiot’ in the blockbuster ‘Idiots ahoy!’
So there are several articles from around this time about Mrs. Pomroy and her husband, many of which spell it Pomeroy because why not? Ralph (the husband) is/was also a lobster fisherman/trapper. They mention carefully that Mrs. Pomroy has to have a winter job as well, but then never say what her winter job IS. I shake my fist at them. She appears to have either divorced her husband, or her husband died. In any case, she married someone named Stone and now goes by Nancy Pomroy-Stone, and was on the South Thomaston Planning Board in the 80s, as well as, simultaneously, being the code enforcement officer. (This seems odd to me, but then, it's a small town.) I dunno what she's doing now, but she's alive, in her late 70s, and still living'in South Thomaston.
I came in to the comments section because that’s one of my favorite things about the show, that so many people leave insightful comments about what the people are doing later in their lives.
I really wanted to see what had happened to this guest (the lobster fisherman) because she seemed so bright and intelligent that I figured she would go on to do something in politics in the town or something like that. Thanks for the update! I wonder if she has ever come on here to see this old episode!
Listening carefully on my second pass through these shows, I notice that at 3:45 John says "salaried, and deal in services". Even suppressing the plural noun subject, he uses English so carefully that he makes "deal" agree with the plural, rather than the singular "[he or she] deals." If the panel had picked up on his scrupulous grammar, it wouldn't have been necessary to ask about "more than one contestant." I suppose he could have hidden this clue by saying "dealing in services" but it doesn't matter; the panel didn't catch it.
Take a breath man!
My favorite panelists... 👍
Ah Zsa Zsa. Character for sure, Arlene. This appearance happened within a couple of years of a memorable guest panelist appearance in which she was tasked to ask one question in a row but she generated huge laughs throughout. That night, Martin Gabel and Bennett Cerf buzzed around her like bees round a honey pot. A little embarrassing that the panel obsessed over her age over and over and over, Dorothy.
Gosh ZsaZsa very sweet back then🌷.
Zsa Zsa is beautiful.
Interesting a friend of mine was in The Battle of the Bulge, he was a General. He taught at West Point. His son also went there. He may have crossed paths with the contestants from West Point. Small world.
That's (now) General Westmoreland on left.
Zsa Zsa was glamour
Which is no longer in Hollywood
The tour guide, with her pixie haircut and shift dress, is looking very sixties.
Alan King was a consummate gentleman.
I loved watching him on Password, especially with Carol Burnett.
I never saw Zsa Zsa looking more glamorous or more beautiful. And PS- It seemed to me that John was not unaffected by her many charms.
RIP Zsa Zsa. True class.
they should have left out the state the lobsterman was from.
I think most people think of lobster when they think of Maine.
Maybe
There were three gorgeous Gabor sisters Zsa Zsa, Eva and Magda. Someone asked Zsa Zsa which of them is the oldest and she said "Mama is but she'd never admit it." Mother Jolie Gabor was a well known Jeweler in Beverly Hills and was on the show once.
she so pretty
Very good show! 😊
I love Zsa Zsa! That was hilarious how she shuts down John daly at the end. And then John rolls his eyes as she walks over to the panel, as if to say "who does this lady think she is?" Ironically she became way more famous and most people know who Zsa Zsa was. But not even a lot of Baby Boomers remember that guy named John Daly, a TV game show host and talking head newscaster from the 50s. Gotta go a generation older than that before you get widespread recognition.
Plug your book Zsa zsa. I must look for this book, may be interesting.
Well, it's nice that John went ahead and gave the lobster fisherman $50.
So many of he female celebs tried to disguise their voices using an imitation Gabor accent, then Zsa Zsa stumps the panel
He females? Mmmm interesting.
@@LANCSKID the he was not intended apologies
Love this shows
Interestingly, the lobster fisherman was a guest on To Tell The Truth on 7 Jan 1960. She was still Nancy Arey at the time.
Gen. Westmoreland,. The tales I could tell, but of course I won't! She's beautiful!
I'll always remember Gen. Westmoreland for saying that the Vietnamese don't value life the way we do.
Nicknamed Wastemoreland.
Wow!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️💋
My brother spent a tour in Vietnam, in the 60's. Then came back and went to West Point. While there, being very young, he and his friend snuck out, got burgers, and snuck back in. Thought they wouldn't get caught if they just made a quick trip. However, caught they were. Instructer made them eat every bite of those burgers in the shower with water going on full blast. After graduating he went back to Vietnam. Of course, General Westmoreland was in charge, at that time.
ZsaZsa was 99 when she died in 2016.
O M G!!!!! WESTMORELAND BECAME A GENERAL . AND HEADED ALL U.S. TROOPS in a country, then called, SOUTH VIET NAM. TENS OF THOUSANDS OF U.S.. SOLDIERS died under his command, and GOD ONLY KNOWS how many VIETNAMESE. WOW! IF only he had stayed WEST POINT !!!
8:27 The alacrity with which Gen. Westmoreland got up (before John had even identified him to the panel) probably indicates how uncomfortable it was having to share a chair with someone. I've always wondered who had the most uncomfortable position? The one next to John or the one on the outside?
Bryson Cole Yep, that's it, nothing more.
When the name plates appear on camera, you will notice that Alan King is one of the few guest panelists who name plate has both names, not Mr. King. The only other guest panelists that come to mind whose name plates had both names are Orson Bean and Joan Murray.
I wonder why.
When I was a kid, "Zsa Zsa" was a euphemism for Fem Fatale!
What about Fou-Fou?
I'm surprised that Dorothy didnt stand for the 2 Military Officers. It showed a complete disrespect for the U.S. and the military in general!
Can't fool Bennett Cerf.
Especially when he's cheating
Those WML Panellists’ names defined in full.
Cerf - (i) An overbearing a rather pompous person who makes creepy remarks to females. (ii) A Pisstaker (iii) A Smartarse.
SUPERINTENDANTS AT WEST POINT AND ANNAPOLIS
LOBSTER FISHERMAN
TOUR GUIDE ON SIGHTSEEING BOAT
Not married because they are men....times have changed ( said by Arlene )
At that time William Westmoreland was on the fast track to the top spot in the corporation. Then Vietnam happened
Oh yeah I was never born when this show came out but it must of been a long time ago
The woman from Maine claimed to not have an accent, which is always so amusing to me. Everybody who speaks has an accent.
Exactly. And as Captain Beefheart said "We're all colored or you wouldn't be able to see us."
@@randyhutton9371I enjoyed him singing ‘Willie the Pimp’ with ol’ Zappa.
I think Alan King was influenced by Jack E. Leonard as were others (notably Don Rickles).
At 12:15, Dorothy talks about a prior episode with a woman lobster fisherman in which they discussed whether lobster was eaten raw. For the life of me, I can't remember that conversation, even though this is my second time through the series. Was that in a lost episode, or am I losing my memory (even more than I thought)?
I came to the comments with the same question. I'm curious!
I was thinking the same thing!
Arts?
Lobsterman girl has a huge Adam's apple !
I don’t know why they told the panelists where people were from because sometimes that could be a major giveaway.
Unbeknownst to me until now, this show did a Special Community Chest Edition on September 27, 1953 in the afternoon, on all the major networks. A kinescope of the episode was rediscovered a few years back.
Was that the only time the show did a special episode, during the regular 1950-1967 run?
Alan King was 32 years old at the time. He died 18 years ago at age 76. Sigh....
جميلة
Beautiful
14:48 if you want mystery guest.
Mark Norville Heyyyy are you saying the rest of the show is dull?? Some of us fans are watching every show in full here!!
Most of us watch it all. If you don't, you're missing a lot.
“They can’t be married … they’re both men!” Oh, Arlene … the unknown irony.
Does Zsa Zsa do anything that is unique? Like "Seinfeld" "unique"?
19:21 Arlene got a no and he moved on but didn't flip a card...😲 Hm?
He forgets
I like Eva more ...Zsa Zsa seems a bit crazy to me .....
I always thought Eva was prettier, but both were gorgeous back then. Zsa ZSa's crazier behavior seemed to be exhibited many, many years later.
Thought Zsa Zsa came off as pretentious and annoying here, with her “squeaks” for answers. The last contestant was the real beauty on this episode, classy, elegant and so lovely - too bad they ran out of time.
I don't like the celebrity part. The Ordinary people are so much more interesting.
The lady tour guide was very beautiful.
too pretty to be out fishing for lobsters
7:50 thankfully this comment has not aged well!
92balthazar Oddly enough I think it's equally witty now as it would've been then. It's edgy....and it's still edgy. So not sure I agree with you!
Sadly, someone in the public eye can be ruined just as much now by being 'inappropriately' termed a Communist as they would've been a handful of years prior to this show.
@@davidsanderson5918 I don't think you understand my original comment: her remark showed that same-sex marriage was unthinkable at the time. This is evident from the audience reaction. This is what I was referring to. Perhaps your mention of communism refers to another moment in the show?
Westmoreland, the guy who screwed up Vietnam.
They should ,of said east cost
At 2:48 what's that?
MagicalKid It's a SLOPPY edit which still reveals what was shown during the ad break when these shows were re-run several decades later. They happen in HUNDREDS of episodes and it gets on my wick.
"Well they're not married.... 😂 they're both men"! 😳
why in the world do they have most double guests sit on one chair????
nowvoyagerNE Just a guess... if there were more than one chair, the panelists would see that fact (before being blindfolded) and have a vital piece of information.
oldwestguy
They also use one chair for multiples in non-blindfolded appearances. It was more due to the cameras of the day not being able to pan as well as they do today, so they wanted to keep them pointed without movement and crop in the guests with John Daly. Two chairs may have put them too far apart for that.
nowvoyagerNE So you think they should mess on bringing on an extra chair and potentially give the game away?
@@davidsanderson5918: this isn't rocket science, Dave! the celebs have blind folds on...unless the staff are complete klutzes, they should be able to add a chair to the set undetected while the audience is oooing and ahhing.
my comment is FIVE YEARS OLD. *FIVE YEARS OLD.* have you all lost your marbles?
General Westmoreland would go on to a history of "Infamy" in Viet Nam for his poor leadership. Stunning.
7:52 just wait and see what the future will bring mt dear...
Yes. What a big shame!!!
People seem struck by this. There are hundreds of things that are different now compared to what was happening when this 1960 black and white TV panel show was made. So what?
Westmorland was a super killer
11:33 Seriously, how did Bennet know right off, that her career had anything to do with the sea? Was she salty or something? 😕😆 smh. Definitely made it look like they cheat on this show.
He put 2 and 2 together. She lives in maine. Lobster is a main product.
Also, he said it was Rockford that gave it away. She said that her town was close by there. It is famous for its Maine lobster.
@@mrsandmom5947 Was that pun intended? Lobster is a main product, and lobster is a Maine product. lol
Yup sure does
Those WML Panellists’ names defined in full.
Cerf - (i) An overbearing and rather pompous person who makes creepy remarks to females. (ii) A Pisstaker (iii) A Smartarse.
i wonder if any of the non-famous, non-panel guests became famous later on in life?
It sort of depends on your definition of fame, but yes, some of them. Arthur Mercante a few episodes back (the boxing referee) as just one example.
I believe the episode where Eppie Lederer (Ann Landers) was #2, all 3 regular guests later achieved some measure of fame.
Thomas Eagleton was a guest when he was DA in St Louis, long before he became a senator. And of course Gen Westmoreland became very famous. Samuel Pierce who appeared while a state judge became HUD Secretary.
nowvoyagerNE Certainly several of the famous guests (US television ones, I'm thinking of) became 'un-famous', that's for sure! :)