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Only Newcastle and us have put 3 goals past Liverpool this season and we're working with a reduced squad. Talent and experience got the better of us today but we kept fighting to the final whistle. I'd rather be beat 6-3 than 3-0. #AngeIn #COYS
It was 5-1… there was no end-to-end action - it was a mauling by Liverpool, who should have scored 10. They blatantly took their foot off the gas at 5 and conceded two soft goals.
@@carlaburgin6386absolute rubbish, if we had been 3-0 the opposition could have taken the gas off at not. We caused them issues and they had to keep the gap
With half the squad injured, this result was inevitable. Liverpool is the best squad in the Premier League. Keep the faith and the team will turn it around. Go Ange!
I’m a Celtic fan and subscribed to follow Ange. Live in Far East and done a load of business in Aus especially in Melbourne with Greek diaspora community. Ange is typical Aus Greek - honest and direct no BS guy. He’s not gonna coddle you. He’ll do it his way - and he’s a talented guy. Give him some trust and love and you’ll be fine.
I don’t understand what people expect - we have a squad that can’t rotate against a team that made 9 changes in the league cup. It’s only the second time this season Liverpool have conceded more than 2 goals and we were playing against an amazing attacking line. We could have parked the bus and maybe lost 2-0 but how is that any better? In the word of Bill Nicholson “it’s better to fail aiming high than succeed aiming low” that’s exactly what Ange is doing.
Exactly my point - would parking the bus have even got us a draw? Previous managers playing turtle and hoping to counter with Kane+Son, we usually always got broken down and I got tired of watching us give the ball away and conceding late. Esp when Dragusin is not competitive in the air right now, reminds me of fielding Dier.
@@stanleyliu2450 So would you have liked us to turn up with a rotated team? Austin, Reguilon, Udogie, Werner, Johnson, Whiteman (I guess he could play as the striker)? That's it for our mens team, everyone else is injured.
@@jirskyrjenkins1959He didn't have to 'park the bus' but he could have played a little deeper, not left two at the back and just made some in-game tweaks (like settling it down at 2-1). Instead, we get embarrassed again. Honestly can't see what people see in Ange. He has zero in-game management skills.
@@Mark-pz9xw Odd then that Mourinho and Conte with Harry Kane and a much deeper and more experienced squad couldn't get a result against Liverpool, while Ange is 1 a piece against them. Even Pochettino only beat Liverpool once with Spurs!
Reading through the amount of negative, short sighted comments on here is so disappointing. That's not to say you are not entitled to your opinon, you totally are. But.....WOW 😮. I'm behind Ange still, I can see the vision for this club that he has. And with backing from the board and from us fans I know he will get there. I'm not saying he is the greatest manager ever, there definitely has been a few methods, selctions and decisions he has made that I have raised an eyebrow to🤨. But for the most part I can see his reasoning. COYS
@@jacklegros6614 I know you weren't asking me, but my response would be - Because he is a man of conviction - Because he has a vision for this club that I can see. - Because he has made me enjoy watching our team try and win a game rather than wait for something to happen. - Because he actually really cares about this club and isn't here for his ego, or for a pay check. There's probably more but thats enough for now.
Still needs 3 years minimum with proper backing imo. Can’t change a whole club in a year. That’s the only way we’ll get some stability in the club. I don’t want to see the club go back to the days of Irving Scholar, that would be absolute madness.
I sure hope he gets time and support from the club. Ange is the best leader we’ve had since Poch and he should get the chance to prove it…once everyone has working hamstrings.
How do some of these journalists keep their jobs when they are clearly so bad at it? I watch every press conference and in 9 out of 10 some idiot asks Ange if he's going to change his tactics. I have no idea how Ange stays so patient.
Is it not a good question to ask, you got a make shift defence put some damn protection infront of it. You have two slow CB playing one who is a 18 year old midfielder and his still playing a high line. Change the tactics
He never addresses the issues. If he’s allowed to sit at 11th on the table after 17 games because he’s exempt from needing to change his tactics well I can only assume all other managers in the PL are now allowed whatever excuses they need also. Have people got the violin out also for Sean Dyche at Everton? If fans have no problem with this manager having the club in 11th position then how far are they willing to fall under this so called rebuild? 😂😂😂
No point sacking the manager. L'pool have invested heavily on top ready-made quality pros, as have Chelsea and Arsenal. We haven't and it shows. If the money isn't there to do it then Spurs will continue to be mediocre team hoping to win any cup. The present owners are not football people and are investing mainly in the business and infra-structure. The team comes second and as long as there's no danger of relegation everythings fine.
It’s not like other managers change their style of play. Look at pep when he has loads of injuries. He does the same thing. It’s what they train every day and changing it up would cause more issues than it would solve
He’s the one for us, the people who are talking about his tactics not working are just crazy, we’ve had unlucky results, and these games happen with football, league leaders scoring against us? Shocker, we put up a good fight near the end. He’s the man for us, give him the time, like Liverpool have with Klopp, and Arsenal have with Arteta. GIVE HIM TIME!
"we put up a good fight near the end." We conceded 6 at home, and we are in the bottom half. "But give him time" No. Did Real Madrid give Rafael Benítez time?
No, what's happened is that teams have learned how to exploit us, and they know what we're going to try and do every time. They soak up our pressure, exploit the flanks and cross the ball. We haven't been unlucky, but lucky it's lasted this long.
@@levi5073 just like Southampton did? And Man United did? We were playing against probably the most in form and best team in the world. We even beat Man City a couple of months ago. I do agree that we need to adapt a little bit depending on who we are playing, because teams that press high like Liverpool, and Chelsea, and to a lesser extent Arsenal, ghost passed our out of position fullbacks every time then like you say, then it’s easy to beat the man into the middle. but if he gets the team he wants playing the way he wants, I still believe he can work out for us. In the meantime, I’m just trying to enjoy the good days, rare as they are 🤣🤣🤣
@@ak74srthebest0909 18 year olds and 20 year olds like Sarr and Grey aren't getting injured. I don't think you can blame Ange: Richarlison - injury plagued when Ange arrived. VDV - hamstrings since age 16 Vic - collision injury Romero - collision injury Wilson - injury in first 10 minutes of the game - shows fragility Moore - illness Werner, BJ, Solanke - illness Solanke - twisted ankle Then the fact we can't rotate players and play 3 x a week compounds this fact. If we play a low block I will lose all hope.
Put it this way we are deffo scoring goals but we are also conceding goals but if we can not concede goals and keep on scoring goals then trust me spurs will be a world class team and this is even with all the players we have out so get them all back and add some more quality signings then trust me spurs will be rocking, so me I'm deffo sticking with this guy because I do think he will come good in the end and as the saying goes rome wasn't built in a day plus were in all the cups and it wouldn't surprise me if we don't win a trophy this season COYS ............ 👍
It's not tactics it's the players that are missing. With Vicario, Romero, Van De Ven, Udogie. All of those goals were preventable. Just having Vicario playing today 3 of those goals don't go in.
@@wutupup5852 well, no because I said all the goals were preventable if Romero, Van De Ven and Udogie weren't out. So we'd have won 3-0 and if we only had Vicario fit at least 3 of those goals he would have likely have stopped so the most it would have been then is 3-3. But with Romero and van De Ven playing as well they wouldn't have scored 3 and we'd have probably won.
@@juancarlostorreslobelo8858 Isn't a draw better than getting 6 goals stuck past you, and it could have been 10? Oh, wait! They won the "We Scored 3 Against Liverpool" trophy, so it is better than a draw.
8 players out what did we expect.. full strength liverpool team at there best.. there was only ever one outcome. We need reinforcement in January badly. FOSTER has to be dropped
I totally agree support big Ange, yes we lost yet another match but it’s no good dwelling on the fact we have so many injuries other clubs also get injured players, difference is we lack quality cover, the powers to be must back Ange 100% and find the finance to invest in quality because at the moment we have about as much chance of winning trophies or qualify for champions league as Father Christmas coming down my chimney
To be fair to Ange, most other teams in this situation would have lost 4/6-0 instead of 6-3, if they had adopted a more conservative strategy. Whilst I think Ange's tactics are overly extreme and naive in some respects, I would have to say the result looks worse than it actually is. And of course the injury situation at Spurs is horrendous. Spurs will just have to soldier on.
@jacklegros6614 doesn't bother me mate I support arsenal but you spurs fans are deadset delusional. Top team by a mile put 6 past while missing nearly a whole squad what do you think was going to happen 🤦♂️
Mike Bassett needs to go now! This YEAR not season, has been shocking!! His relentless tactics and training is coursing injury’s to players, below average coaches (don’t get spoken about enough) not improving players. One style of play and opponents know how to play against it. He’s had his time! #Levyout
The media have picked the wrong guy to pick on . Who is he meant to play that he is not playing ? Who is playing out of position ? Which tactic is wrong ?
We need to buy ready made QUALITY players not the rubbish Levy has been doing. All this match has shown we are light years behind in squad quality compared to our rivals
I can't believe the free ride this manager gets. It's mental. Look at the comments here. "Oh we scored 3 goals though" yeah we conceded 6. We've conceded 13 in our last 3 games. Injuries are not an excuse. If you've got injuries to your defence then protect it. Don't set up in a way that leaves them ridiculously exposed.
Isn’t one the many aspects of the game decision making? When to track runs? When to cover space? Have we all been imaging this for the few hundred years? Why is it so controversial for him to say that sometimes the players made the wrong decisions and didn’t mange situations well? That’s not throwing them under the bus, it’s just a basic observation they’ll be fine with. And if you actually *want* and are *instructing* your players to make the decisions we’re seeing, how on earth can you not expect a reporter or fans to question such tactics that are giving away chances and goals like Christmas presents? Is this just a kick about with his mates or something? Some either serious denial or gaslighting going on with this man.
Tottenham will never change while Daniel levy is in charge. He did a great job at the infrastructure level, but he will never lead Tottenham to silverware or even challenging for it.
What's happened is that teams have learned how to exploit the tactics, and they know what we're going to try and do every time. They soak up our pressure, exploit the flanks and cross the ball within unlimited space. We haven't been unlucky, but lucky it's lasted this long. You have to adapt depending on your opposition at the top level. This isn't Scotland, Japan or Australia.
Are u serious? And why are there still teams we are able to batter? If it‘s like you say every team should beat us. But it wasn‘t. We battered teams like City, Spam, ManU and Villa and this was the first game we got battered.
I’d love to see another coach do better with 11 odd players out. lol. Tottenham fans got to be some of the dumbest on earth. No wonder why you guys haven’t won a trophy in ages
exactly the point I made weeks ago, Ange is discovering that his tactics do not work in the Premier League, this is NOT Australia, Japan or Scotland where the attack attack attack tactics can get you success when you are the top spenders in your league all over the park. The Premier League is a different world when you re the 10th highest spending club and the opponents have class ALL OVER THE PITCH and can easily kill a game with counter. Fan power will settle the argument.
Really:/ we’re missing 4/5 starting defenders against the best team in the league plus 6 other players. This is just lazy thinking. What else would you have him do???? Play a low block? Play a counter team?? We clearly don’t don Have the defensive capabilities to handle that, and when you’re down in a game you need to be aggressive and push your players up to try and score more.
Ange In; but that doesn't mean criticisms (player rotation, plan b, defending) aren't invalid. The bit that bothers me, is he won't look at a back five, to gain control of a game. No one is asking him to lump the ball forward. Just try and work to your player's abilities. That said, i loved the result. I would have loved it more, if he gave Dorrington a chance.
The Carabao Cup is gone if the guy still holds on his style , whatever that is , its not entertaining 1-5 , it‘s not consistent, Mourinho and Conte would already have received the sack for what we have seen this season
I think thats a very short term view of things and perhaps you need to look at the bigger picture. We have to be prepared to go through some pain to get to where we want to be and trust me if we keep Ange and back him, we will get there.
Sure, we may be patient and w/off this season, but for what? Last season the guy said not enough rotation cause of non-European football and the out of the Carabao Cup. This season the guy says it s hard to play so many games……. I can‘t believe people can trust in something like this
With 'Donkey' Bissouma still in the side we won't win FA. He gave the ball away on 3 critical times in the first few minutes. Plus, get Forster a better pair of conract lenses. Tell him we play in 'White'. I thought Archie Gray was outstanding in this & the last few games. Fans make an excuse that he's young but what a player. Credit to Jed Spence also. Liverpool has a squad full of Stars & winners, Tottenham has a handful.
Take ManU as a good example of a worst case scenario; hard coping supporters blaming individuals for entire games worth of problems and gain nothing for the whinging. Makes me sick as a red devs supporter. You can either be a backseat manager or sit back and enjoy the moments of success when they arrive.
Ok I hate to be in this position again. I've predicted the sacking of every spurs manager in my lifetiime and now I have to relucntantly do it again, Ange ain't good enough for the Premiership, he is a one trick pony, there are some fantastic other managers in the premiership working with far less resources than Ange. He ain't good enough at this level, he's gone soon. Sorry to announce the bad news. 11th in the league at Christmas, we deserve better.
Such a simplistic argument. Who exactly is doing better with fewer resources and how long is that being maintained? It's fine for some middle tier club to go on a run but it won't last against the best squads. Every time someone says "other managers doing better with less" I remind them of Graham Potter or Nuno at Spurs.
@ haha, Nuno for one is doing better at Forest right now and may prove a point against us in a few days. Ange hasn't accomplished a run since his first 10 games either, so it's not as if he set a standard in the first place. We were challenging for the title in Poch's second season.
There is no guarantee giving him time will improve our results. It will be hard to get quality players sitting at 11th and we may lose players. He doesn’t seem to be interested in learning or adapting. I would like to see his style succeed but without tweaks I can’t see it at this level. Look at Brendan Rodgers in Europe a few tweaks to Celtic and much better results than Ange.
They played the best side in the World in great form with a 2nd choice team and put 3 past them. If Ange has a full squad the team would do better. Less fatigue, more experience etc.. They had a crack and never gave up. 5 -1 down and they had a moment to come back. That is what a good coach can do under the circumstances.
Learning or adapting what? If you focus on some areas you lose in others. If we play defensively we can offer no threat and still concede just as many goals
That was our 2nd choice team? Klopp and Pep talked about how much they learned playing against each other Id be very surprised if a manager could come to the elite level and not need to learn and adapt their style.
The sign of a good coach\manager is one who can adapt and change tactics based on the situation at hand. Prime Example Nuno Espírito Santo changed his formation and players yesterday based on his team playing Brentford, they won 2-0. I don't know any manager in any sport that does not change strategy or tactics based on opposition!! This will be Ange's download fall. However, the squad needs to get healthy and we still need better depth. Too many inexperienced players if Ange refuses to change.
Out comes the cantankerous Poch after the loss, in contrast with Thursday. He's clearly a bad loser - a good sign given that Ferguson and Mourinho were bad losers also.
Won't change, can't change. Back to where we were before Martin Jol and getting worse. All the progress this club has made, back to square one. And he did it this quickly.
Three nil up against United was a chance to shut up shop, being on some kids and rest some players. Complaining of tiredness today when a solution was available last Thursday. Beaten for four headers leading to the first three goals for Luverpool. Can you fix that Ange?
Score "2 soft goals" against Liverpool and it's because Liverpool stopped trying. Man United score 2 gifted goals and we're lucky, United should have won, blah blah blah. No one hates Spurs more than their own fans. Just seem to love being miserable.
I dont understand why when we have so many players out and tired...he would play the same high risk football...seems careless Full strength squad..ok...7 or so players out, including three of our 1st choice defenders....not ok
Because if they play low risk football they could lose every game in the current circumstances. Just sitting in front of your box doesnt guarantee a win we know that from having conte
I highly doubt we would have beat united if we didnt try to offer something to think about in their defence and just let them attack us wave after wave for almost half the game
A severely depleted Tottenham lose to the top team...cue the calls for coach to be sacked...cue the armchair experts telling us why we lost to Liverpool......cue the same old BS from idiots that don't understand anything about the reality of the game. We lost by 3 goals. I expeted we would lose by 2 or 3. FFS, give it a rest.
Brighton Bournemouth Ipswich palace. Let’s go further back, last twice to wolves last season. Looking great. Must have been injuries, definitely not the tactics. God ange is unquestionable.
His useless style of play won't win nothing we have no leader to boss the defence no leader to control the midfield. We have 2 keepers who can't play out from the back & very rarely go long to give players a breather to regroup instead our defenders keep putting us under repeated pressure usually from panic poor passes or out of position players, we have a non existent midfield leaving vast areas of space to hurt us game after game. We can't string more than four passes together without losing the ball. Set pieces we cant defend & we usually squander 9/10 of our set pieces & yet he can't see none of this & he is starting to look a bit frayed around the edges just like the fans have for weeks. His tactics worked in scotland because lets be straight he only had 1 team for competition but here in the prem he has been well & truly found out to be nothing more than bang avg at best. He has proved beyond all reasonable doubt a few tweaks & a couple of changes with a much better game management plan is not on his to do list anytime soon. Any manager worth his money will tell you that you build a team from the back & yes i know we have 10 players down through injury & suspension most of the injuries are a direct result of our players being run into the ground. Someone needs to tell ange work smarter not harder! Groundhog day will be with us until he understands some simple basics & principles, maybe someone should buy him ghengis khans book on strategy for xmas because im sick to death of my club being turned into a weekly laughing stock by other fans pundits presenters fkn sick of it! 💙
Levy needs to look at himself in the mirror and realise what he is doing, is not working, if he thought of the club and fans then he should walk away, enough is enough, WE WANT OUR TOTTENHAM BACK, need at least 5,6 players to start challenging, give ange what he wants, got rid of 12+ players last summer, only 5,6 coming in, it clearly has come back to haunt us, LEVY OUT LEVY OUT LEVY OUT
You said you copied Pep. Look how Pep is doing now. High line strategy doesn't work anymore in modern football. Player injuires are consequences from this strategy. Modern football has too many matches for players to cover that strategy. Today we lost 3-6 and with full squad we might have lost 3-5. Backing up a manager for a long period of time is fine but backing up an outdated strategy is an abysmal thing to do. Ange u r a decent manager only if u can change a bit of ur strategy.
Don’t understand why ange is upset with the loss. Guy literally has only one way of playing. We can’t defend set pieces of crosses because defending isn’t in his plans. This guy need to go
@@ciarandallas165 I don't think u do. Hes used an 18 year old creative midfielder at centre half as a scape goat. He stands on the touchline not moving, other managers are guiding certain players through the game especially when getting battered most game.
Why does he say stuff like this. Just say they were the better team and we will look at ways of adapting and improving. Saying things like this makes him seem immature. Also the man u win doesn't seem as impressive now
He says these things because it’s what he believes. He’s not going to look at ways of adapting and improving, he plays a certain way and he asked his teams to play a certain way and that’s the way he sees it. Not everyone will like it, But we need to suck it up and ride it out. If he pulls it off, we willbe incredible.
@benhirst3819 even with our strongest 11 we still failed. The high line is suicide and makes us get to many injuries. We beat a useless man u team, he isn't a tactical genius. We have a decent team with decent youngsters, no worse then half the team in the league. Spence has done really well since coming in and to think the only reason why he even had a chance is because the amount of injuries we've had
Got no sympathy for Ange. Frazer has not been any where good enough. Give Brandon a go and Alfie in Central defence instead of Archie, Alfie is a natural defender. Play Archie in centre midfield as that is his natural position. It is not rocket science
You're missing about 10 players mate. How many players in the current squad has he actually bought? Most of them aren't even his players. You need a reality check bro
He is absolutely clueless, sorry if I go against the Ange cult, I've been a spurs supporter over 55 years and seen great managers and been to Wembley for so many cup final victories, and sadly this guy will not get us to the promises land playing this ridiculously crazy step of football
Stick with it ang bad day today some of youngsters are coming on i love Tottenham we need to play these kids now biss ain't good porrro ain't good love sonny but he can't beat his man anymore wasted on wing spence been brilliant out of position put him on the right gray in the middle with sarr you know it makes sense this time next year we be millionaires
Time to fire Ange and hire Ten Hag or Southgate. They’ll do heaps better. Tottenham needs a coach who’ll play for 1-0 results. This Ange guy is a joker by scoring too many goals
He just ran out of tactical idea he don't have adjustments he just has to go . No point of holding him It will be same result because lack of his tactical management I'm already sick of his style Voice also he is stubborn
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Been going to spurs since 1975. Season ticket holder since 1991.
Seen relegation and a lot of other tough times.
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Well said mate.
@@61sven Absolutely right mate
Proper fan. Not another 'Content Creator' with an agenda. Agree completely.
True yid
Only Newcastle and us have put 3 goals past Liverpool this season and we're working with a reduced squad. Talent and experience got the better of us today but we kept fighting to the final whistle. I'd rather be beat 6-3 than 3-0. #AngeIn #COYS
Rubbish, liverpool took their foot off the gas, they could of scored 10 if they wanted to
@carlaburgin
Nonsense, ypu think they didnt want to?
It was 5-1… there was no end-to-end action - it was a mauling by Liverpool, who should have scored 10. They blatantly took their foot off the gas at 5 and conceded two soft goals.
delusional, and seemingly happy about it. Club has truly sunk to new depths.
@@carlaburgin6386absolute rubbish, if we had been 3-0 the opposition could have taken the gas off at not. We caused them issues and they had to keep the gap
With half the squad injured, this result was inevitable. Liverpool is the best squad in the Premier League. Keep the faith and the team will turn it around. Go Ange!
Well said.
I’m a Celtic fan and subscribed to follow Ange. Live in Far East and done a load of business in Aus especially in Melbourne with Greek diaspora community. Ange is typical Aus Greek - honest and direct no BS guy. He’s not gonna coddle you. He’ll do it his way - and he’s a talented guy. Give him some trust and love and you’ll be fine.
I don’t understand what people expect - we have a squad that can’t rotate against a team that made 9 changes in the league cup. It’s only the second time this season Liverpool have conceded more than 2 goals and we were playing against an amazing attacking line. We could have parked the bus and maybe lost 2-0 but how is that any better? In the word of Bill Nicholson “it’s better to fail aiming high than succeed aiming low” that’s exactly what Ange is doing.
Exactly my point - would parking the bus have even got us a draw? Previous managers playing turtle and hoping to counter with Kane+Son, we usually always got broken down and I got tired of watching us give the ball away and conceding late. Esp when Dragusin is not competitive in the air right now, reminds me of fielding Dier.
We could rotate but Ange is not doing it. Maybe we would lose as well but at least we give sone players a rest and a better chance against forest.
@@stanleyliu2450 So would you have liked us to turn up with a rotated team? Austin, Reguilon, Udogie, Werner, Johnson, Whiteman (I guess he could play as the striker)? That's it for our mens team, everyone else is injured.
@@jirskyrjenkins1959He didn't have to 'park the bus' but he could have played a little deeper, not left two at the back and just made some in-game tweaks (like settling it down at 2-1). Instead, we get embarrassed again. Honestly can't see what people see in Ange. He has zero in-game management skills.
@@Mark-pz9xw Odd then that Mourinho and Conte with Harry Kane and a much deeper and more experienced squad couldn't get a result against Liverpool, while Ange is 1 a piece against them. Even Pochettino only beat Liverpool once with Spurs!
Reading through the amount of negative, short sighted comments on here is so disappointing. That's not to say you are not entitled to your opinon, you totally are. But.....WOW 😮.
I'm behind Ange still, I can see the vision for this club that he has. And with backing from the board and from us fans I know he will get there. I'm not saying he is the greatest manager ever, there definitely has been a few methods, selctions and decisions he has made that I have raised an eyebrow to🤨. But for the most part I can see his reasoning. COYS
Postecoglou is exactly the sort of manager Spurs need. Don't lose something special over short sightedness.
I rate Ange and back him
Why ???
The man has to look up when he's being questioned he's always looking down at the ground
@ColinMorgan-u8w Seriously? So if he just looked up you'd be happy?
@@jacklegros6614 I know you weren't asking me, but my response would be
- Because he is a man of conviction
- Because he has a vision for this club that I can see.
- Because he has made me enjoy watching our team try and win a game rather than wait for something to happen.
- Because he actually really cares about this club and isn't here for his ego, or for a pay check.
There's probably more but thats enough for now.
@@jacklegros6614why not? He causes offensive issues for everyone team with a 2nd string squad. Imagine what he would do with Liverpool’s squad
Still needs 3 years minimum with proper backing imo. Can’t change a whole club in a year.
That’s the only way we’ll get some stability in the club.
I don’t want to see the club go back to the days of Irving Scholar, that would be absolute madness.
3 seasons agreed, plus spending. To point out that Liverpool had Jota, Elliott and Curtis Jones on the bench today; we had Brennan and Timo.
He's been given £330 million already 😂
@@Mark-pz9xw yep he’s being backed and he’ll need that over the next 3 windows too. 👍
@@Mark-pz9xw no he hasnt, he's been given a fraction of that so far because you are talking about contracts that run for the next several years.
I sure hope he gets time and support from the club. Ange is the best leader we’ve had since Poch and he should get the chance to prove it…once everyone has working hamstrings.
I think he’s right, everyone knows the questions he will be asked and his answers, stick with him spurs fans, i say
How do some of these journalists keep their jobs when they are clearly so bad at it? I watch every press conference and in 9 out of 10 some idiot asks Ange if he's going to change his tactics. I have no idea how Ange stays so patient.
Is it not a good question to ask, you got a make shift defence put some damn protection infront of it. You have two slow CB playing one who is a 18 year old midfielder and his still playing a high line. Change the tactics
Strange that. They keep asking the same questions and Ange just keeps playing the same tactics. Yet both keep their jobs?!
He never addresses the issues. If he’s allowed to sit at 11th on the table after 17 games because he’s exempt from needing to change his tactics well I can only assume all other managers in the PL are now allowed whatever excuses they need also. Have people got the violin out also for Sean Dyche at Everton? If fans have no problem with this manager having the club in 11th position then how far are they willing to fall under this so called rebuild? 😂😂😂
@shottskies show me where Liverpool would be with 10 players out. Hopefully Levy understands this and doesn't react to fan shit views for a change.
@@WoWMerke Completely agree man. The fact that there are so many idiots, like the three people that commented before you, is concerning.
No point sacking the manager. L'pool have invested heavily on top ready-made quality pros, as have Chelsea and Arsenal. We haven't and it shows. If the money isn't there to do it then Spurs will continue to be mediocre team hoping to win any cup. The present owners are not football people and are investing mainly in the business and infra-structure. The team comes second and as long as there's no danger of relegation everythings fine.
Levy out
Chelsea bought youngsters. Maresca is a hell of a manager out of anges league let's be honest
Spurs have spent more than Liverpool in the past 5 years.
@ValiantInstance wages
Why is there a liverpool microphone in front of Ange when we're at home??
Because he was a Liverpool fan when he was a lad. He asked if he could use that one for today 😂😂😂😂😂
Yes WTF 😂😂
Maybe because Slot will be interviewed post match for Liverpool tv, channel, fans, etc.
Another stupid Spurs fan!
Ange is a legend, and a top manager 💚
100% Ange. Press need to learn the difference between reactive management and having a plan.
18 months in Arsenal Fans were calling for Arteta to be sacked
Stop comparing to arsenal They want success on the pitch not profits 0:43
Agree, getting boring now isn't it
Arteta won an fa Cup. How are u even bringing arsenal into this jeez cringe
@@jacklegros6614 I'm not comparing with Arsenal merely pointing out that changing a team and culture takes time
Ange will come good - every Celtic fan in the world is rooting for him along with his new Tottenham fans support - GO ANGE XXXXX
It’s not like other managers change their style of play. Look at pep when he has loads of injuries. He does the same thing. It’s what they train every day and changing it up would cause more issues than it would solve
He’s the one for us, the people who are talking about his tactics not working are just crazy, we’ve had unlucky results, and these games happen with football, league leaders scoring against us? Shocker, we put up a good fight near the end.
He’s the man for us, give him the time, like Liverpool have with Klopp, and Arsenal have with Arteta. GIVE HIM TIME!
"we put up a good fight near the end." We conceded 6 at home, and we are in the bottom half. "But give him time" No. Did Real Madrid give Rafael Benítez time?
No, what's happened is that teams have learned how to exploit us, and they know what we're going to try and do every time. They soak up our pressure, exploit the flanks and cross the ball. We haven't been unlucky, but lucky it's lasted this long.
Real Madrid 😂 are fair away from spurs mate give yourself a shake @@Hotspurhoodfanclub
@@levi5073 just like Southampton did? And Man United did? We were playing against probably the most in form and best team in the world. We even beat Man City a couple of months ago. I do agree that we need to adapt a little bit depending on who we are playing, because teams that press high like Liverpool, and Chelsea, and to a lesser extent Arsenal, ghost passed our out of position fullbacks every time then like you say, then it’s easy to beat the man into the middle. but if he gets the team he wants playing the way he wants, I still believe he can work out for us. In the meantime, I’m just trying to enjoy the good days, rare as they are 🤣🤣🤣
And more time. .and more time as we decline further Yawn
Get behind big Ange and the team . COYS
This is the first game in a while where I have seen us being outnumbered, both on the counter attack and when we went forward. Curious... fatigue?
They looked pretty flat and understandably so.
Ange is making a skeleton crew run their asses off. Everyone is either getting injured or exhausted.
@@ak74srthebest0909 18 year olds and 20 year olds like Sarr and Grey aren't getting injured.
I don't think you can blame Ange:
Richarlison - injury plagued when Ange arrived.
VDV - hamstrings since age 16
Vic - collision injury
Romero - collision injury
Wilson - injury in first 10 minutes of the game - shows fragility
Moore - illness
Werner, BJ, Solanke - illness
Solanke - twisted ankle
Then the fact we can't rotate players and play 3 x a week compounds this fact.
If we play a low block I will lose all hope.
Put it this way we are deffo scoring goals but we are also conceding goals but if we can not concede goals and keep on scoring goals then trust me spurs will be a world class team and this is even with all the players we have out so get them all back and add some more quality signings then trust me spurs will be rocking, so me I'm deffo sticking with this guy because I do think he will come good in the end and as the saying goes rome wasn't built in a day plus were in all the cups and it wouldn't surprise me if we don't win a trophy this season COYS ............ 👍
It's not tactics it's the players that are missing. With Vicario, Romero, Van De Ven, Udogie. All of those goals were preventable. Just having Vicario playing today 3 of those goals don't go in.
With the full squad we might have lost 3-5 not 3-6. You are happy with that😂😂😂😂
@@wutupup5852 with your approach they would've lost 2-0...looks like all Spurs fans want to do is to park the bus and hope for a draw!!
@@wutupup5852 well, no because I said all the goals were preventable if Romero, Van De Ven and Udogie weren't out. So we'd have won 3-0 and if we only had Vicario fit at least 3 of those goals he would have likely have stopped so the most it would have been then is 3-3. But with Romero and van De Ven playing as well they wouldn't have scored 3 and we'd have probably won.
@@wutupup5852 we didn't have our number 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6. Basically the back half of our team.
@@juancarlostorreslobelo8858 Isn't a draw better than getting 6 goals stuck past you, and it could have been 10? Oh, wait! They won the "We Scored 3 Against Liverpool" trophy, so it is better than a draw.
He's answering the same questions because spurs are still the same as they ha e been since he started
Genuinely what did people expect? Where we had only 1 one member of our back 4 + GK?
8 players out what did we expect.. full strength liverpool team at there best.. there was only ever one outcome. We need reinforcement in January badly. FOSTER has to be dropped
I’m assuming you mean Forster? And drop him for him, the 2 GKs who haven’t ever played professionally? And when they don’t work, the kit man?
Reinforcements ... 😅😅😅😅
No change isn't an option when things are not working. Pep had to change before he won CL. He will need to change again to fix MC this season.
Hes a diff kind of manager..with a fully fit squad it wont be anywhere near as bad as now..
The word is we were OUT-CLASSED!!!
"It is what it is."
Ha ha ha, which is 11th and not very good.
Ang is playing like he did at Celtic, score more goals, unfortunately we dont have the squad (defence) to make this work how he wants it too.
I totally agree support big Ange, yes we lost yet another match but it’s no good dwelling on the fact we have so many injuries other clubs also get injured players, difference is we lack quality cover, the powers to be must back Ange 100% and find the finance to invest in quality because at the moment we have about as much chance of winning trophies or qualify for champions league as Father Christmas coming down my chimney
The fans still support him. They are more vexed with D. Levy, he’s the one that is holding them back
To be fair to Ange, most other teams in this situation would have lost 4/6-0 instead of 6-3, if they had adopted a more conservative strategy. Whilst I think Ange's tactics are overly extreme and naive in some respects, I would have to say the result looks worse than it actually is. And of course the injury situation at Spurs is horrendous. Spurs will just have to soldier on.
I would rather watch a 6-3 game then a boring 1-0 snooze fest power to the big man keeps it exciting win or lose
6 goal defeat and your happy!! Incredible!!
@jacklegros6614 doesn't bother me mate I support arsenal but you spurs fans are deadset delusional. Top team by a mile put 6 past while missing nearly a whole squad what do you think was going to happen 🤦♂️
Why dont journos not have a mic ,Can only hear some of them .Poor quality
We must be the first team ever to be top scorers in the league after 17 games and be 11th
COYS. In Ange we trust. How many other teams have scored 3 goals? Liverpool are in form and our young, makeshift defense did what they could
And shipped 6 goals !!! Could have been 10 !!! Wake up
Least its not conte football but it's hard work watching spurs Liverpool are just alot Better & have a full squad
I'm Still Going With Ange❤
Mike Bassett needs to go now! This YEAR not season, has been shocking!! His relentless tactics and training is coursing injury’s to players, below average coaches (don’t get spoken about enough) not improving players. One style of play and opponents know how to play against it. He’s had his time! #Levyout
The media have picked the wrong guy to pick on . Who is he meant to play that he is not playing ? Who is playing out of position ? Which tactic is wrong ?
We are not good enough. The league table does not lie . We are languishing in 11th place
We need to buy ready made QUALITY players not the rubbish Levy has been doing. All this match has shown we are light years behind in squad quality compared to our rivals
Exactly
@@enetaokenabirhie2931half your team are injured though, stick with Ange
I can't believe the free ride this manager gets. It's mental. Look at the comments here. "Oh we scored 3 goals though" yeah we conceded 6. We've conceded 13 in our last 3 games. Injuries are not an excuse. If you've got injuries to your defence then protect it. Don't set up in a way that leaves them ridiculously exposed.
Isn’t one the many aspects of the game decision making? When to track runs? When to cover space? Have we all been imaging this for the few hundred years? Why is it so controversial for him to say that sometimes the players made the wrong decisions and didn’t mange situations well? That’s not throwing them under the bus, it’s just a basic observation they’ll be fine with. And if you actually *want* and are *instructing* your players to make the decisions we’re seeing, how on earth can you not expect a reporter or fans to question such tactics that are giving away chances and goals like Christmas presents? Is this just a kick about with his mates or something? Some either serious denial or gaslighting going on with this man.
I still bother about results vs New castle
Brighton and Chelsea
This is actually a fight
We knight you Sir Ange, Bielsa, Ossie Postecoglue
I'll say it again i cant here the fkin questions.. Am i the only 1 ?? Whats the point
You would think with the amount Premier league clubs generate they could fix this !!
To win things you need a board who want to win things 🍀
Idk abt tactics..but players need to make better decisions
Tottenham will never change while Daniel levy is in charge. He did a great job at the infrastructure level, but he will never lead Tottenham to silverware or even challenging for it.
I ange we thrust
Thrust
You keep answering the same questions because you keep creating the same issues tactically.
What's happened is that teams have learned how to exploit the tactics, and they know what we're going to try and do every time. They soak up our pressure, exploit the flanks and cross the ball within unlimited space. We haven't been unlucky, but lucky it's lasted this long. You have to adapt depending on your opposition at the top level. This isn't Scotland, Japan or Australia.
Are u serious? And why are there still teams we are able to batter? If it‘s like you say every team should beat us. But it wasn‘t. We battered teams like City, Spam, ManU and Villa and this was the first game we got battered.
I’d love to see another coach do better with 11 odd players out. lol. Tottenham fans got to be some of the dumbest on earth. No wonder why you guys haven’t won a trophy in ages
It’s funny because Pep was using this exact tactic for 4 years straight and nobody had an issue simply because his squad quality is superior
exactly the point I made weeks ago, Ange is discovering that his tactics do not work in the Premier League, this is NOT Australia, Japan or Scotland where the attack attack attack tactics can get you success when you are the top spenders in your league all over the park. The Premier League is a different world when you re the 10th highest spending club and the opponents have class ALL OVER THE PITCH and can easily kill a game with counter. Fan power will settle the argument.
Really:/ we’re missing 4/5 starting defenders against the best team in the league plus 6 other players. This is just lazy thinking. What else would you have him do???? Play a low block? Play a counter team?? We clearly don’t don Have the defensive capabilities to handle that, and when you’re down in a game you need to be aggressive and push your players up to try and score more.
Ange In; but that doesn't mean criticisms (player rotation, plan b, defending) aren't invalid.
The bit that bothers me, is he won't look at a back five, to gain control of a game. No one is asking him to lump the ball forward. Just try and work to your player's abilities.
That said, i loved the result. I would have loved it more, if he gave Dorrington a chance.
The Carabao Cup is gone if the guy still holds on his style , whatever that is , its not entertaining 1-5 , it‘s not consistent, Mourinho and Conte would already have received the sack for what we have seen this season
Err they basically were sacked in a similar amount of time but for vastly different strategies.
I think thats a very short term view of things and perhaps you need to look at the bigger picture. We have to be prepared to go through some pain to get to where we want to be and trust me if we keep Ange and back him, we will get there.
Sure, we may be patient and w/off this season, but for what? Last season the guy said not enough rotation cause of non-European football and the out of the Carabao Cup. This season the guy says it s hard to play so many games……. I can‘t believe people can trust in something like this
@@CaliMero-yv8lthe has 10 injuries in the first team
With 'Donkey' Bissouma still in the side we won't win FA. He gave the ball away on 3 critical times in the first few minutes. Plus, get Forster a better pair of conract lenses. Tell him we play in 'White'. I thought Archie Gray was outstanding in this & the last few games. Fans make an excuse that he's young but what a player. Credit to Jed Spence also. Liverpool has a squad full of Stars & winners, Tottenham has a handful.
Take ManU as a good example of a worst case scenario; hard coping supporters blaming individuals for entire games worth of problems and gain nothing for the whinging. Makes me sick as a red devs supporter. You can either be a backseat manager or sit back and enjoy the moments of success when they arrive.
Ok I hate to be in this position again. I've predicted the sacking of every spurs manager in my lifetiime and now I have to relucntantly do it again, Ange ain't good enough for the Premiership, he is a one trick pony, there are some fantastic other managers in the premiership working with far less resources than Ange.
He ain't good enough at this level, he's gone soon. Sorry to announce the bad news. 11th in the league at Christmas, we deserve better.
Yawn.
Absolute nonsense.
Such a simplistic argument. Who exactly is doing better with fewer resources and how long is that being maintained? It's fine for some middle tier club to go on a run but it won't last against the best squads. Every time someone says "other managers doing better with less" I remind them of Graham Potter or Nuno at Spurs.
@ haha, Nuno for one is doing better at Forest right now and may prove a point against us in a few days.
Ange hasn't accomplished a run since his first 10 games either, so it's not as if he set a standard in the first place. We were challenging for the title in Poch's second season.
Ok Nostradamus
The Gaffer is a great guy but he must learn to adapt in defending
There is no guarantee giving him time will improve our results. It will be hard to get quality players sitting at 11th and we may lose players. He doesn’t seem to be interested in learning or adapting. I would like to see his style succeed but without tweaks I can’t see it at this level. Look at Brendan Rodgers in Europe a few tweaks to Celtic and much better results than Ange.
No guarantee in life mate
They played the best side in the World in great form with a 2nd choice team and put 3 past them. If Ange has a full squad the team would do better. Less fatigue, more experience etc.. They had a crack and never gave up. 5 -1 down and they had a moment to come back. That is what a good coach can do under the circumstances.
Learning or adapting what? If you focus on some areas you lose in others. If we play defensively we can offer no threat and still concede just as many goals
That was our 2nd choice team? Klopp and Pep talked about how much they learned playing against each other Id be very surprised if a manager could come to the elite level and not need to learn and adapt their style.
Scoring 3 against Liverpool....
Back ange all the way ... I'll die if he left tomorrow... been such a boring ivorment since our 2019 spill he's brang the passion back loose or win
The sign of a good coach\manager is one who can adapt and change tactics based on the situation at hand. Prime Example Nuno Espírito Santo changed his formation and players yesterday based on his team playing Brentford, they won 2-0. I don't know any manager in any sport that does not change strategy or tactics based on opposition!! This will be Ange's download fall. However, the squad needs to get healthy and we still need better depth. Too many inexperienced players if Ange refuses to change.
It’s a myth that Ange doesn’t change his tactics.
Why do Spurs have so many injuries? As good as Van der Ven is ,he hardly ever plays because of injury.
They are injured due to the tactics he will always have the same injuries due to how we play
Probably because you have a huge man always having to turn on the spot and sprint because of the tactics. Hes injury prone
Angeball injures players. Lotta hamstring issues from non stop sprinting & turning
Out comes the cantankerous Poch after the loss, in contrast with Thursday. He's clearly a bad loser - a good sign given that Ferguson and Mourinho were bad losers also.
Won't change, can't change.
Back to where we were before Martin Jol and getting worse. All the progress this club has made, back to square one. And he did it this quickly.
Go away. Go support Arsenal.
Disagree
You're entitled your opinion.
I for one couldn't disagree with you more if I tried.
@@michael1882yt "your're entitled to your opinion"
Thanks for clearing that up. Coming from you that means a lot.
Three nil up against United was a chance to shut up shop, being on some kids and rest some players.
Complaining of tiredness today when a solution was available last Thursday.
Beaten for four headers leading to the first three goals for Luverpool. Can you fix that Ange?
He said this:ı will keep going to lose
Score "2 soft goals" against Liverpool and it's because Liverpool stopped trying.
Man United score 2 gifted goals and we're lucky, United should have won, blah blah blah. No one hates Spurs more than their own fans. Just seem to love being miserable.
I dont understand why when we have so many players out and tired...he would play the same high risk football...seems careless
Full strength squad..ok...7 or so players out, including three of our 1st choice defenders....not ok
Because if they play low risk football they could lose every game in the current circumstances. Just sitting in front of your box doesnt guarantee a win we know that from having conte
I highly doubt we would have beat united if we didnt try to offer something to think about in their defence and just let them attack us wave after wave for almost half the game
So what would you rather we do and would have made a difference?
Will be sacked soon.
You hope?
@@keithwillis5207yes
Awful decision if true
A severely depleted Tottenham lose to the top team...cue the calls for coach to be sacked...cue the armchair experts telling us why we lost to Liverpool......cue the same old BS from idiots that don't understand anything about the reality of the game. We lost by 3 goals. I expeted we would lose by 2 or 3. FFS, give it a rest.
We had bad results even without injuries!!! Excuses !!!
@@jacklegros6614sounds like you should be the manager.
Brighton Bournemouth Ipswich palace. Let’s go further back, last twice to wolves last season. Looking great. Must have been injuries, definitely not the tactics. God ange is unquestionable.
His useless style of play won't win nothing we have no leader to boss the defence no leader to control the midfield. We have 2 keepers who can't play out from the back & very rarely go long to give players a breather to regroup instead our defenders keep putting us under repeated pressure usually from panic poor passes or out of position players, we have a non existent midfield leaving vast areas of space to hurt us game after game. We can't string more than four passes together without losing the ball. Set pieces we cant defend & we usually squander 9/10 of our set pieces & yet he can't see none of this & he is starting to look a bit frayed around the edges just like the fans have for weeks. His tactics worked in scotland because lets be straight he only had 1 team for competition but here in the prem he has been well & truly found out to be nothing more than bang avg at best. He has proved beyond all reasonable doubt a few tweaks & a couple of changes with a much better game management plan is not on his to do list anytime soon. Any manager worth his money will tell you that you build a team from the back & yes i know we have 10 players down through injury & suspension most of the injuries are a direct result of our players being run into the ground. Someone needs to tell ange work smarter not harder! Groundhog day will be with us until he understands some simple basics & principles, maybe someone should buy him ghengis khans book on strategy for xmas because im sick to death of my club being turned into a weekly laughing stock by other fans pundits presenters fkn sick of it! 💙
Levy needs to look at himself in the mirror and realise what he is doing, is not working, if he thought of the club and fans then he should walk away, enough is enough, WE WANT OUR TOTTENHAM BACK, need at least 5,6 players to start challenging, give ange what he wants, got rid of 12+ players last summer, only 5,6 coming in, it clearly has come back to haunt us, LEVY OUT LEVY OUT LEVY OUT
Masonball is starting to look an attractive option.
Midtable mediocrity and a semi final in some diddy cup, well done Angelo....finito.
You said you copied Pep. Look how Pep is doing now. High line strategy doesn't work anymore in modern football. Player injuires are consequences from this strategy. Modern football has too many matches for players to cover that strategy. Today we lost 3-6 and with full squad we might have lost 3-5. Backing up a manager for a long period of time is fine but backing up an outdated strategy is an abysmal thing to do. Ange u r a decent manager only if u can change a bit of ur strategy.
You seriously claiming that being beaten by 1 less goal is a massive W ? 😂
Don’t understand why ange is upset with the loss. Guy literally has only one way of playing. We can’t defend set pieces of crosses because defending isn’t in his plans. This guy need to go
3rd best defense in the prem going into this game with 1 fit CB in the squad.
You know nothing you turnip.
@@ciarandallas165 I don't think u do. Hes used an 18 year old creative midfielder at centre half as a scape goat. He stands on the touchline not moving, other managers are guiding certain players through the game especially when getting battered most game.
No idea, no tactics, no b plan, no class, waste of time! Get rid! #angeout #levyout
You out.
Yawn
@@bkandemir zzzzz
Arrogant to the core
Said that right from the beginning
Naive, stubborn man.
Why does he say stuff like this. Just say they were the better team and we will look at ways of adapting and improving. Saying things like this makes him seem immature. Also the man u win doesn't seem as impressive now
He says these things because it’s what he believes. He’s not going to look at ways of adapting and improving, he plays a certain way and he asked his teams to play a certain way and that’s the way he sees it. Not everyone will like it, But we need to suck it up and ride it out. If he pulls it off, we willbe incredible.
@benhirst3819 even with our strongest 11 we still failed. The high line is suicide and makes us get to many injuries. We beat a useless man u team, he isn't a tactical genius. We have a decent team with decent youngsters, no worse then half the team in the league. Spence has done really well since coming in and to think the only reason why he even had a chance is because the amount of injuries we've had
Got no sympathy for Ange. Frazer has not been any where good enough. Give Brandon a go and Alfie in Central defence instead of Archie, Alfie is a natural defender. Play Archie in centre midfield as that is his natural position. It is not rocket science
Sorry, but if you're not going to change when we are getting bummed up the A then you deserve to get sacked.
Thanks genius.
Then what. New coach. Bounce. Dip. Sack. Spurs cycle.
Well he got hired on his terms, so he shouldn't be sacked for them. I'm guessing you're one of the "don't understand" ones.
Would a 2-1 or 3-1 loss have been acceptable? Spurs have a terrible record against Liverpool.
You're missing about 10 players mate. How many players in the current squad has he actually bought? Most of them aren't even his players. You need a reality check bro
He is absolutely clueless, sorry if I go against the Ange cult, I've been a spurs supporter over 55 years and seen great managers and been to Wembley for so many cup final victories, and sadly this guy will not get us to the promises land playing this ridiculously crazy step of football
Stick with it ang bad day today some of youngsters are coming on i love Tottenham we need to play these kids now biss ain't good porrro ain't good love sonny but he can't beat his man anymore wasted on wing spence been brilliant out of position put him on the right gray in the middle with sarr you know it makes sense this time next year we be millionaires
I’m trying to be reasonable in my reply but losing like this is a disgrace to THFC -
Why is it?
40% of our squad is unavailable. 75% of our centrebacks gone
soooo much better to lose by one goal right!
@@leesaunders8407 I agree , plus we’re playing top of the table and the only team showing any real consistency so far this season 👍
Time to fire Ange and hire Ten Hag or Southgate. They’ll do heaps better. Tottenham needs a coach who’ll play for 1-0 results. This Ange guy is a joker by scoring too many goals
😂😂😂
Ten Hag??? after Mourinho, Conte hahaha looks like Tottenham fans want their team to become another Man U but without any prior success!
Same story, same s#!+. All or nothing, kamikaze football. Ange’s defense is horrible.
Ange out
He just ran out of tactical idea he don't have adjustments he just has to go . No point of holding him
It will be same result because lack of his tactical management
I'm already sick of his style
Voice also he is stubborn