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it’s actually quite impressive how good we are at fucking things up
That is as a result of decades of practice! Got it down to a T.
As soon as that stupid free kick was given away by that absolute carthorse English championship player Oriley i texted my mate saying “my whole life since I was 14 years old these go in just befjre half time when we are in a game in Europe”
Kyogo jumping behind someone else in the wall and the ball literally going through where he was standing 🤦♀️
£72m in the bank and zero points in the group sums up the board
See how much of that we lose with a settlement. Maybe why no big signings this season.
Fantastic hahah fucking rides.
Celtic board have no ambition to progress in Champions League or Europa. Their only ambition is to win the SPL and qualify. That’s reflected in how little they invest in the squad. It’s insulting to us Celtic fans and needs to change.
I'm with you sir! Well said..👍
You're deluded. The Celtic board are realistic. They know Celtic aren't big enough to compete in Europe.
@@johntate5050your deluded
That guys spot on
@@johntate5050if we were slightly more ambitious at board level we walk away with 3 points tonight and a further 2.5 million in the bank, SACK THE BOARD
We (Feyenoord) were definitely not at our best today. Probably the worst match we have played this year, even in our league draws I felt like we were playing much better. We really struggled creating big chances going forward, probably because we were missing our strikers. But even though our attack was lacking, our defence basically prevented any real scoring chances from Celtic and I never felt we were in danger of conceding. The only player on Celtics side that looked slightly threatening was Maeda with his speed. So overall with us playing like this I couldn't be more happy with the result. But it leaves me curious to see how the return will turn out. I think both teams should be better then today and it being the group decider it should be a good game, with no doubt a great atmosphere.
Anyways loved following your coverage of the match from a Celtic perspective and good luck in your games against Lazio and Atletico.
It may well go down to that game my friend.
I think Atletico should be the favourite just because all the quality they have in their squad. I don't know about Lazio, they haven't looked good so far in the Serie A this season. I think Feyenoord, Celtic and Lazio all have a realistic shot to make it to the next round. Feels very similiar to our Europa League group last year. Where we actually knocked Lazio out on the last match day even though all 4 teams in the group ended with the same amount of points.
You got us at a good time. The game came too early for us. With us changing manager, not being able to bed in new signings and having a number of injuries mostly in defence, we're no were near any sort of rhythm, form or even proper fitness level yet. We are always much better at home and hopefully by then our injury problems wont be so bad so I would expect us to be much stronger in the return leg. Its disappointing for us because I believe the level we were playing at last season was much better than the level you played at tonight and if we had kept that momentum and consistency going we would have won a game like that but the changes we've had to make have basically put us back to the start of a new cycle. I think with Rodgers coming back we probably wont see the best of Celtic until next year and Europe this season may turn out to be too far a stretch for us right now. Losing Ange has been a tough blow for us to recover from so far but I think we'll get there in time. It was hard replacing Rodgers the first time he left but I feel its been much tougher so far after Ange has left, hes genuinely one of the best in the world and our football was much more dynamic under him. Rodgers is a good manager, probably the best we could get now but Ange was a step above and the adjustment period may be half our season.
From a rotterdamer living in Scotland both supporting feyenoord and Celtic, Feyenoord gets my congratulations, am looking at the Celtic board with disappointment, players done what they could but the board needs to dig deeper in the years profits to give Celtic a chance to play champions league, Feyenoord can go to the last 16 with playing gd controled football, if we even come close to the sevco record, Celtic can expect furious backlash not having Celtic get humiliated and embarrassed by its own board cause they won’t spend on quality
@@Tom-lj3lryeah well then it doesn’t help that Ivanušec had to go off this game with an injury that looked really bad…
Pardon the surprise '3...2...1' somewhere in this video. Sums up my night.
Like Groundhog Day all over again. Totally blew the opportunity to draw or even beat an off colour Feyenoord.
yip and next time they will have all their injured players back and no doubt pump us again why we constantly blow chances that rarely come is beyond belief the other 3 teams all know they are guarenteed Europe after christ we are 100% finishing 4th yet AGAIN.
@@petermonaghan6749 Well I hope you're wrong but there isn't too much reason for optimism. If we get 3rd place it would be an achievement with this squad.
Why was Kyogo probably our smallest player put in the wall and once again another stupid free kick given away. Another frustrating night in Europe. 😠
I have felt this way for awhile now, I feel as if Celtic just don’t know how to score.. we don’t have a player that can take over a game. I know we can’t afford marquee players, but why can’t we depend on a single player to take on an opponent and score a goal? Last season everyone was scoring goals, we had multiple game changers. But this year it seems like everyone is just waiting for someone else to take control. I don’t know maybe it’s just how I’m seeing it. The first half did give me hope though, we can get a result at paradise. Anyways HH bhoys and great job with a quick upload Ryan, class as always m8 🍻🍀
Agreed we look toothless upfront in Europe. Missing a player like Jota or Rogic who create things out of nothing.
We are too weak middle to front easilly bullied off ball, should never let big GG leave. Need big powerfull striker and left back at least in next transfer window.
Spot on Ryan can’t believe the Pish Rodgers and McGregor are trying to spin. What was Kyogo in the wall in the first place and the spot he took smallest man in the team. I could go on but won’t 🧨
Absolutely spot on Ryan. You covered every aspect of our comical TYPICAL SELLIK IN EUROPE syndrome.
It's been over for Celtic in Europe for a long time now. In terms of status in Europe Celtic were a club on a par with the likes of Feyenoord, Porto, Sporting Lisbon & Benfica but those days are long gone.
I've never missed Jota more. Can't live in the past but with him that match would have been different I think.
Kyogo jobbied it at that free kick 🤣🤣🤣
That wall. McGregor who decided on putting Kyogo in there?
ENQUIRY NEEDED
For 9 men. Good result. Ref was inconsistent with ylow cards. Hatate was wasteful. Not a great deal of service to Kyogo. Wingers needed more. Kyogo shouldn't have been the edge man on the wall.
So inconsistent, givin a yellow to McGregor for a pull when he tangled his legs only to not book about 3/4 of them blatantly pulling cunts jerseys.
its actual the same every year man
😭😭😭
We almost encouraged Feyenoord to dominate that game due to our inexperience, and poor ball retention.
The fact Kyogo is avoiding a lot of criticism for that free kick is baffling to me. If he literally jumps straight up he blocks that, but he *contorted* himself as if he was making every effort to get out of its path? I'm not saying Hart's positioning was perfect, clearly it wasn't, but surely you set up a wall assuming that if the freekick taker aims it at the wall (which he did) it'll bounce off (which it should have done), providing everyone does their job. However, Kyogo didn't and it forced Hart to try and make an awkward save. Sure, pick someone else to stand in the wall if you like, but if you're in it *take the hit* or you risk allowing your side to concede 🤷♂
Why was he placed there, shortest felly on the park put first in the wall?
@@LailandiAdventures"Placed "🤣🤣🤣 Someone didn't pick him up and plonk him in the wall!
@@getitupyouo6023pish
Couldn't agree more. Hart coming out saying he's to blame. Well..he's not. The wall didn't do its job. Kyogo ran away and left a huge breach so Hart had to scramble and did well just to get something on it. He's always the scape goat for other players mistakes.
Don't know what is going on with Hatate but he was absolutely shocking tonight and we need another striker who can hold the ball up as we're relying on Kyogo to bail us out way too much.
Agree m8 Hatate gave the ball away all night never passed the ball to a clear Kyogo never done anything and even giving Oh a chance up with Kyogo he battles for everything m8
Thanks for the quick upload Ryan, just back home from watching the game in the pub, enjoyiing a joint now and listening in 👌
Always a pleasure, Mick 👍🏻
At least we're consistent.
Consistently Shit
Had to😂
What makes me so angry about it is we were as good as them but we basically gift them a goal and then get two players sent off from stupid challenges
As good as them 🤔 .....Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣
Feyenoord is way better bro
@@thehaguen.7814 in the first half we had as many chances as they did
@@neiloconnor7776 feyenoord have better players in every position
@@thehaguen.7814 so we matched them in the first half it was our own stupid mistake that allowed them to score even at that we were still in it but then we get two men sent off in the space of ten mins even down to 9 men they only scored one more goal
Well that was a worthwhile transfer window.Big club support, wee club management.
First half was good, complete breakdown on the free kick sure, but our pressure gave us some opportunities we should’ve made more of. Liam scales motm.
We needed an experienced defender, with the two young boys learning the hard way and being sent off...VAR saved us from an embarrassment of goals that were thankfully chopped off.
Inexperienced players cost us dear tonight, but come on, Feyenoord were bang average.
@@Tom-lj3lr I recall them being in real danger on several occasions when it was eleven vs eleven.
@@johnglynhughes4239I must have seen an other game then, cause I can’t remember a single chance Celtic had.
Both Feyenoord and Celtic were weak last night. The nerves worked crippling for them. But all in all it was a deserved win for Feyenoord and even without the red cards I don’t think Celtic would have scored a goal last night. Even if they’d played an extra hour.
Love seeing the end of the smug thumbnails.
Kyogo shat it from getting hit and hart was poor
Not Hart's fault..... Kyogo turning his back , making the fatal gap . Why was he in the wall in the first place??
kyogo shoudnt be in the wall mate,, and hart was way off, a ball that bounces and still beats him from 25 yards? hart iis too blame
Kyogo is our best player but in the champ lge he goes missing
I blame O'Riley, he panicked and gave away a needless freekick and not for the first time in that area.
@@chrispender2701just goes to show how bad Scottish football is
@@Billybhoy every lge has moved on and got better apart from scotland don’t bring through enough home grown players not enough quality in the squad we would rather have a big squad than a smaller squad with better quality of players daft
You're taking it well Ryan well said.
We deserve better. Same old story. We deserve better. Same old story!
Deserve better? No one deserves anything at this level.
I think the game just came too soon for us. I know its disappointing because we've seen celtic play better than what feyenoord were tonight but we have to understand that with ange leaving and brendan coming back we are at the early stage of a new cycle. A new system, with new players and key players injured, away from home against dutch champions who are in the 3rd year of their cycle. Its understandable that we are behind just now. It will take time for the squad to fully get the best out of the new system and for them to reach the level of fitness and performance required to perform at our peak. The encouraging thing is that the distance isn't insurmountable and the structure in the team and style is starting to show in some phases of play and there is some degree of improvement with respect to the players understanding of the system. I think we just need more games and more time to get fitter and sharper. It will come but this years european venture may be a step too far too expect success this early into this teams cycle. Its shite, I know after the hope that ange built but its just the realities of football
Our shity build up from the back is what cost us any kind of result. Scales and Taylor couldn't pass their way out of a wet paper bag. Every pass Scales made to hatate was really poor. The ball was just being fired at him with a player breathing down his neck with no player to pick up a quick pass. It was actually embarrassing watching us trying to play out from the back. The opposition literally just left 4 players to press and we couldn't do anything with it. All it done was building pressure on the team which ultimately lead to a free kick. The less we talk about that the better. We'll never improve in Europe as long as we're in the league we play in. The sad thing it will never change and we'll never get the players this club deserves. What does that say about our league when a team this shambolic in Europe is that dominant in the spl
I know you can’t predict a red card but Holm is to young and unexperienced should never of been subbed on
He was subbed on to help shore things up! A sensible and appropriate thing to do.
That bench was a riot he was one of only 2-3 players who were up to much !
@@Harrow932 true
Holm is class on football manager he’ll come good. Actually this will be the making of the lhad
To be honest it’s Rodgers fault for sticking with Turnbull and not giving the boy more game time. Stupid challenge yes, but for a young guy at his age he’s actually played a lot of senior football. Nothing to do with “not at this level” btw its just a silly challenge n thats it.
It might feel like it will never change, but truth be told, every team in the world has felt like that at some point. There’s no big secret you just have to make yourself better in every department
We where rank in first half , and sloppy, lucky to only putting 1 away. Seriously we are the team everyone wants to play as we give the ball away posetion away so many times.we where lucky to be only 2 down and them having the goals chopped. Scottish teams in europe is a shambles, so many players failed to play and thats it
I'd like to take my shoes off, walk into the Celtic board room and through my shoes at them. "Record profit PLC... Save that!"
We deserve better boys. We have what it takes. We make the same mistakes. Players need to take responsibility for their poor game management. Brendan got the tactics spot on the players let him down.
Through the boot at them Brendan
Mate, how many shows have you got? 😂
Honestly it would not surprise me if we didn’t win any of our CL matches !
We won't get a single point!
Up until they scored just before half time we were doing good and created a couple of good chances ourselves. I don't think Gustaf should have got a second yellow yeah it was a penalty but not a yellow card and I think considering we were down to 9 men the team that has been scoring goals for fun as people said. We limited them to 2. It's the first game that everyone thought we'd lose. But think we can still get something out this group Ryan.
I think we will struggle to score a goal in this group never mind get a point
As I have said many time, the Champions League is really the "Massacres League" for us. This will not change anytime soon. We got off lightly this evening.
It won't change until our custodians do
@@Swindel67
Yup
Problem for the old firm in Europe is they are used to getting every decision at home, then Europe and proper refs.....they are goosed.
Our players at times in Europe don't have the balls to come and seek and want to be on the ball... whole midfield was like that tonight,, gave it away far too much .... that team were shite too, could of been a draw only for young players giving the lineman/ref needless decisions to make... like every year in Europe very frustrating
I genuinely don't know why any fan would have any hopes for a Celtic away tie in Europe. What happened tonight, with the exception of the sending offs, is an exemplar of what has been happening for decades. Literally decades!! There surely can be few, if any teams, with such an utterly appalling, utterly shameful, away record in European competition history. I am not particularly upset by the result, as I had no expectation of a good outcome, and low and behold, no good outcome was achieved!
HMmm there's a team from Govan who are utter shameful and appaling in Europe they also hold the title as being the worst ever team to play in Champions league history not to mention the quickest ever hatrick being scored against them on top of not being in the last 16 in over 20 years on top of only winning 1 game in CL groups in the same time Celtic actually holds the best European record in Scotland a quick google check would show you that.
I'm the same as u mate, until I seen how bad feynoord were
@@petermonaghan6749 hardly a good example mate, we know Rangers are shite we should be aiming higher
As of last night we have the worst wins to losses ratio I think
Referee was a fuckg disgrace. When we tried to sit back and attack on break, They dragged our bhoys down in first half no yellow cards on counter attack
And free with the yellows when it was the other way around
Did we expect to get anything, I’m at the stage I dread seeing Celtic in Europe. Apart from 2003 we’ve not achieved anything of note in 40 years plus. I just don’t understand how we can’t perform in Europe.
Hi Ryan inexperienced players at this level showed Hatate never passed to a Celtic player while he was on and we kept passing back to the keeper putting us under pressure at the back the whole game so as you say how we only lost 2-0 is the positive but it can only get better and hopefully can HH ☘️🍀
Any other year I'd be mad but tbh, to still end any CL game with a 2 goal deficit this year is probably not bad for us tbh. Even more so when you consider we were with 9 men for the last 30 mins.
It's hard to be ambitious in Europe but we have to keep the faith in the young players we are signing and hope Rodgers can impose a winning style on this team as before HH
Lagerbielke is an absolute liability. His first booking was poor again. Similar to the lucky escape against Sevco. He isn't good enough.
He is crap
Well that was dreadful 😂😂😂
Was genuinely more sastified with the the 3-0 defeat to Real Madrid last year, at least we gave them a game, we’re a few months into the season now and I’m struggling to understand the derection we’re going
100%. There was effort in that game. Tonight we didn't create a single decent chance.
None of the signings have made us better we have 32 players in a squad should only have 25 or 26 to have better quality then use young players coming through we will never learn
As a Feyenoord Fan I would say Celtic impressed me in that first half or we where just bad but I think that Celtic might get a change against Lazio
In all honesty I thought Feyenoord looked very average throughout, don’t mean that as any kind of shot, just think they are not a very fast scary team
To play. PSV looked terrifying against rangers and it had us thinking the worst.
We have 1 central defender available now. 1 is suspended and 4 injured and the remaining 1 was 6th choice.
Your deluded mate! Take your feyenoord sarcastic sympathy and piss off! We were awful! You beat a terrible team tonight which will give you false hope until you come up against a decent side which we clearly are not and your team feyenoord will be exploited and knocked out too
@J.D.1. I know it's unbelievable. Hopefully Phillips recovers, however it's a shocker
@@81mccabe58I agree they played average .. yesterday.
Feyenoord had a complete off-day though, so you can expect a different Feyenoord in the return and the remainder of the group stage.
We can also expect a different Celtic though, especially at Celtic Park. So very much looking forward to it and hopefully we’ll all see a better game in December. In the meantime, wish you the best of luck against Lazio and Athletico! I think the Italians and Spanish are going to be in for a surprise at Celtic Park
2-0 is a better result than most had any right to expect.
🙈🙈 why is it when we are in control of a game it goes friggin pear 🍐 shaped , the magic word of being clinical in front of goal needs to be printed in our attackers, the first half we had good pressing and possession , they found it hard to break us down , then they get a free kick and it all falls apart in the second half into a friggin nightmare 🙈🙈
Is it bad luck as well the board did bring in nawrocki and Phillips but they were injured, along with ccv and Welsh being injured, for the club to go in to the champions league tie with so many injuries is hard on us!
Same Celtic different year
3:55 as a Feyenoord supporter, I agree, Feyenoord weren’t playing their best game, but we were also missing our 2 strikers Gimenez and Ueda.
The opening 🤣🤣
Just seen a photo of the wall for the free kick goal. One of their players was 100% in the wrong with his positioning, he's not allowed to stand there in front of the wall. Why didn't VAR pick it up
😂
I've been watching Celtic since 1983. My first live European game was the home defeat to Nottingham Forest. I should have known then how it would be.Take away the O'Neill years (2002-04) and the odd moment of glory (Barcelona 2012), our European record has been woeful in my time.
We always say typical Celtic and laugh it off but u can do things in the transfer window to help u out at this level. Statistically he’s an average to below average SPFL shot stopper so the idea that he’s gonna pull of the saves to get us results in this game is laughable. Any fan could have told u he was gonna be a disaster.
Scales was very good tonight , calmac not been at the races last few games , Hatate poor too, we’ll be doing well to get 3rd place europa league anyway isn’t even it level , the way it is full stop.
What is a captains role out there on the pitch ? Its a serious question, he must have noticed the smallest man on the pitch was at the end of the wall, is it not his responsibility to ask the question ?
What do you think about th new player, luis palma?
Thats not a typical celtic bit its fast becoming a trend
No a Celtic fan but like your videos Ryan allways keep it real. Sadly both rangers and Celtic aren't champions league material, the gulf in finances and home league quality is massive, were just there to make the numbers up. Money in the bank that's about it, co-efficient is really important we need any Scottish team to do well in Europe to improve Scottish football. Reckon ange team would have skelped feyenoord, Rodgers has been a step backwards for Celtic
Why is the video not working
I've said on the celtic way we need a young Arthur boruc or Schmeichel
Clueless.
I see the big picture. I think we will qualify. So under strength yet I thought we looked ok. Patience. At no point were we run over.even with nine.
As per usual McGregor gets a free ride. What a charmed life he lives. When are we going to admit that having a player as slow and physically weak as Calmac as our captain and leader is just not good enough. 5 year contract and never substituted. What a future.
We are being taken for mugs want our money for season tickets tops merchandise but give us nothing in return need a protest against the board and also hit them in their pockets
The window was a disaster mate if it wasn’t for injuries NONE of them are in the team, how is that strengthening. Absolutely scunnered with the lack of ambition. Happy to lord it over the dreadful teams in the SPFL
You can’t expect to do well in the Champions League with prospects. I know buying and selling prospects is what gets us money, and it works, but we need to think about Celtic as a FOOTBALL club with ambitions to compete at the highest level, not just a business.
You CANT compete at this level, unless you define competing as aiming to scrape third.
I actually thought your best chance was against Feyenoord as you can't possibly beat Atletico and most likely not Lazio.
@@sandersson2813 yes, third would be competing for us. I’d actually settle for winning a game or two first. But my point is we need to build properly to do that, not with 19 a d 20 year olds who have fantastic futures but have never played at this level
@@__Mike__2000 Your business model isn't set up for European progress.
It doesn't allow you to build a team.
You offer 5 year contracts with the promise a player can move in two years if a good offer comes in.
This means that Celtic view themselves as bottom rung stepping stones and that they accept they aren't likely to attract players of CL quality.
I think it's probably a sensible position, but can understand why it frustrates you, but Celtic/Rangers have dropped so far down the pecking order that no player or manager capable of delivering European success is going to lower themselves to Scottish level football and having to tolerate going to some of the truly dreadful domestic fixtures as well as living in Glasgow in 2-6x less money they could earn elsewhere.
If a player is on Celtics radar, he probably also has about 50 other options to pick from. You have to ask why would any player join a Scottish club.
Celtic and Rangers need to work to improve the league.
@@RedScotland Don't you want more though?
Wouldn't you rather have a more competitive league? A league that commands a better TV deal?
Now officially the worst team to play the champions league 😂😂
What was surprising to me was that it wasn't a massacre!
No shock there, about right for the squad we have. I said they would put 3 or 4 past us.
The board have given us an off brand CL squad.
Referee was an absolute joke. Never a red for both.
Got to remember its Rodgers ball not Ange ball, got schooled, one for the Jota ! 2 sent off for dirty play , s that training and the last one could have ended someone`s career. The wall caused the goal, Kyogo , not the keeper, Hart saved the penalty and played well. Light weights in Champions league but lots of money in the bank.
Loads of money in Desmond & lawells.pocket ye mean 🤔
always get our hopes up then just make stupid mistakes
Make no mistakes, my hopes were never up, Feyenoord were so shit that I almost allowed it during the actual game though lol
Anyone else think that Rodger’s signings are just not cutting it? Big Shaggerbielke is a million miles off what we need in defence. Surely down to the manager to make sure the players keep disciplined enough to keep 11 on the pitch if you want any sort of chance in Europe.
we were on an upturn till january this year,,, guess what happened then ????????
Neutral here. Must say that I am amazed at the signings made by Celtic this season, are they really all players that Rodgers has wanted? I don’t think any of them look Champions League standard.
That team are not to be feared we could trounce them at PH with a full squad . We need to remember the injuries we have when anylysingbthe game , hatate for me was infuriating to watch and his body language isnt reading to good.
only 2-0, we held them back well but we couldn't get Kyogo any good balls in front of goal.
How long is that now with no wins in Europe for the septic? 😂😂😂😂😂 three years lol 😂😂😂
Why was Kyogo on the wall at all, let alone the inside? Made 0 sense to me. He spun away like a pussy, but that’s expected. Can’t put him there
No experience in the team just hot blooded players, I think dembele and kyogo up front we'd have gubbed them.
Why I take it in training , why did BR put Kyogo the smallest player in our team at the end of the wall. As MON WTF were Celtic thinking putting the smallest player in out team at the edge of the wall when a left footed player his taking the FK never mind a left footed player There is no fecking way he should be anywhere near In a wall at a FK.
hart makes the wall not rodgers
Totally agree...crazy 🍀
Unbelievable 😬🙄
JOE HART HAD ABOUT A MONTH TO GET THAT BALL STOP DEFENDING HIM. He’s done
Just a side note you would not have got kyogo if he was good ...
Absolutely no service, guys a deadly finisher no matter what park it’s on and he will still show it.
Weaker than last season.
Goalkeeper situation and LB situation completely unaddressed. Both Hart and Taylor absolutely awful last night and it’s why we had to upgrade in the summer. It’s complete and utter incompetence from the board.
If you’re playing in the Champions League with Greg Taylor as full back we deserve what we get. Hart should have been given competition this year but as usual, we couldn’t be arsed to improve our club.
Every time we should pull away we - well - fall asleep at the wheel.
We’re now praying these prospect players are up to it, putting unnecessary pressure on Holm, Yang etc.
But, it’s not all bad news. We’ve got record breaking profits so let’s all smile and accept the shite the fans have to put up with
Take it like this they only beat us 2 0 with 9 men
Bang out
Palma and Maeda are fuxking terrible I can’t believe that Maeda is a professional footballer. The free kick was Kyogos and o’rwillys fault. Also the pen defo wasn’t a pen. Scales was out best player that says something.
Don’t think the first is Joe Hart’s fault, the wall didn’t do it’s job, specially Kyogo (sadly)
It's now OFFICIAL Celtic now have the highest LOSS RATIO "EVER " in the history of the Champions league 🤭
Some say, that: Celtic, have not:-
managed, to: "sort; -"Set_pieces"", for; about: 15-20 years??
-(M.K.S.).
Same old celtic pish performance🟢⚪️🇮🇪🍀
losing to better teams isn't a shock tbh.
Prospects get found out at that level, record turnovers and profits mean nothing to that board, they will asset strip and sell when don’t need to and always come out windows with profit. Champions League Cannon fodder.