Glenwood Springs and Marble, Colorado
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024
- In this video we pay a visit to Glenwood Springs, Colorado. In 2013, AOPA ranked Glenwood Springs as the "#1 Most Challenging Airport” in the US based on a survey of AOPA members (link below). While Glenwood has the potential to be very challenging, it was docile for our visit. This emphasizes what I continue to say in my videos, mountain flying is possible if you wait for the right conditions. I would avoid Glenwood on a high wind and/or high density altitude day.
After our quick stop into Glenwood we press on to what may ACTUALLY be the most challenging airport I’ve ever visited - Marble, Colorado. You won’t find Marble listed on any sectional. It’s a private airstrip in the beautiful Crystal River Valley. Thanks to the incredible generosity of its owners, you can visit Marble Airstrip with prior permission.
If you plan to visit Marble please study the RAF Airfield Guide and complete the eWaiver prior to your arrival. This is NOT an airfield for an inexperienced mountain pilot. It’s a relatively short runway subject to severe downdrafts, high density altitude, and is surrounded by unforgiving terrain. In short, it makes Glenwood look like a walk in the park.
AOPA most challenging airport article:
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Survey results completed by AOPA members:
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Marble, Colorado Airfield Guide:
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Marble, Colorado eWaiver:
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Just started my flight training at KAPA in Centennial, CO (Aspen Flight Club). I can’t wait to be able to fly in the mountains. Thank you for sharing!
I'm a low-lander so watching your left turn over Marble got my heart pumping just a bit! Not used to seeing mountains... let alone THAT close. Nice flying!
Denverite here. Wanted to be a pilot my entire life. Dad was 22-yr career USAF sergeant. Grew up on USAF bases, many with flight lines. Studied hard, trying to get an appointment to the USAFA. Developed T1 diabetes at age 17, so automatic lifetime ban of military service and being a pilot. Was actually treated for my initial diagnosis at the USAFA Hospital. Now almost 36 years after diagnosis, I live vicariously through people like you posting these videos, and thanks to MS FS 2020, I get a very tiny taste of the joy of flight. Thank you for making flight videos for people like me!
Bill, learn to fly a motorglider, no medial required. Pipistrel Sinus go check it out.
Thanks for sharing your story Bill. As Wouter stated, there are still some options if you're heart-set on learning to fly.
My new favorite RUclips pilot! Excellent in every way!
Thank you Nathan. That's high praise. I'm in good company.
Agreed! I can't get enough of these videos!
Wow you were absolutely correct saying the owners are very accommodating! I definitely will add this to my list too!
As I said: Absolutely "wonderful people"
What a lovely greeting from the airport. I wish you had turned back for a landing and a hello. There's always another video.
I lived at the east end of the Marble strip forty years ago. The owner of the strip at that time flew a Mooney in and camped at the group of trees next to the river. Great place....except for tourist in summer and snow in winter. LOL
Amazing! I could nearly see my childhood home!
That's awesome Sage
I lived near Aspen for 25 years. In spring of 2003, my 70+ year old neighbor took me flying in his 1949 Cessna 170, which he kept down at GWS airport. We took off and flew near Mount Sopris, barely clearing a ridge up there by 100 feet or less. Then buzzed over to Rifle, and up the river back to Glenwood. He taught me to navigate using power lines. A year or so after that flight, he overshot the runway on a north bound landing attempt into GWS, and landed on top of a house, a short distance past the airport. The airplane and house caught on fire, but were quickly extinguished, and he escaped with minor cuts, and was back at work two days later. That was the end of his flying career.
Absolutely crazy story Mike. Glad that you had a safe flight with him and I'm glad that he hung up his hat after that incident. Thanks for sharing.
www.postindependent.com/news/miraculous-crash-landing-in-glenwood/
@@jwat072 Thank you for posting this news article. The person named is indeed the one I went flying with. Nothing was mentioned about a fire, but the article does state fuel was leaking from the airplane. The fire dept came and loaded the wrecked cessna onto a truck, so that's probably why I heard there was a fire involved. Amazing! 😁
@@mikeday62 www.accidents.app/summaries/accident/20041027X01699 here's the NTSB report
Great video! I like that phraseology "straight-in traffic permitting". I think I'll steal it.
Thanks Chris, you’re welcome to it. And sorry about the mic in this one… I relapsed ;)
Just marvelous, again - Congrats on your newborn and a Happy New Year. Very much looking forward to the next one here on your channel.
Thanks Steini, Happy New Year to you and yours.
So cool. Always look forward to your posts - living my Mooney life through you.
Thanks Progressiveboy!
Neat to see from the air. I drove the same route to Carbondale on 82, then west along Mt. Sopris and to Marble. We fished at a small lake outside Marble. I have been there several times, once 4 wheeling. We ate at a small restaurant in Marble. Later we did the 4 wheeling to an old historic Mill out of town. We also visited the Marble works, but they did not like visitors for some reason. Like we were going to steal a 5 ton block of marble or something. Some Italian sounding foreign guy asked us to leave. I love the Glenwood Hot Springs pool!
Thanks for sharing Rudy. It's a beautiful spot, glad you've been able to enjoy it for yourself.
I love this channel. Always enjoyable content without all the hype.
Thanks Joe. That's what I'm going for.
Such a cool interaction at 13:12! Marble definitely looks like it could be some white knuckle flying, especially if it’s windy.
Thanks Connor. You can tell I wasn't expecting that at all. Glad you enjoyed it as much as I did.
It is so great to see you taking advantage of this wonderful airport that I have grown up around. Awesome video!
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it!
Very well done production !
I really liked that you don’t have any convoluted intro and that you don’t beg for likes and subs and whatever BS.
Just the facts man :)
Thanks !!
Thanks for noticing Frankie. That's not my style. I figure viewers are smart enough to decide for themselves. BTW, please like and subscribe - ha, just kidding ;)
Flying a Mooney... you make friends everywhere you go... 😀
Great video, fantastic terrain! - a -
Thanks A! I'm starting to realize that ;)
New subscriber.....great video, love Colorado and seeing you fly in between the mountains is a huge plus. Marble looks like a nice little town. Can't wait to see your other videos.
Thanks Daniel and welcome aboard!
I probably looked over out my window and seen you at the runway,hope you enjoy the amazing views throughout our small valley
That's awesome. I'll wave next time Slideways. You live in a beautiful spot.
Once again you are doing an Awesome job, I look forward to many more videos !! Just love the Mooney.
Thank you Malcolm. I really appreciate that!
I haven't seen this since i used to fly over, and into it back in the mid-nineties. Nice!
Hope this brings back some good memories.
Great video again! I want to add Glenwood to my list. We have had some beautiful days up here but our Mooney is getting an annual in APA. Can’t wait to go flying again!
BJ Love, we're in the same boat. I'm doing my annual and a prop overhaul as we speak. I hope to get a few more ski day's in before the end of the season. We'll see if maintenance and weather allow for that...
Glenwood was a great place to land- I went up there just after they were finishing up fire operations this past summer and got some awesome pics of firefighting helicopters. It was VERY smoky flying home however. Thanks for the video!
It's a great little airport. I go through Glenwood often, but that was my first time visiting by air.
That moment I'm watching when I can't decide whether to use my Roku remote to immediately find the thumbs up button or pay 100% full attention because I'm having such a good time watching. Thumbs up for me (But not until the end) ! Great video!
Ha, thanks BMW325. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Your videos are fantastic... cool airplane, great commentary, awesome scenery! Subbed!
Thanks Jeremy, I really appreciate that.
Amazing content. Colorado is mesmerising. I really appreciate your detailed information! For future videos it would be interesting to get a closeup of your instrumentation & avionics. Keep up the great work!
Thanks Scott. I've tried to position the cameras to accentuate the true stars of the channel. In order: #1 Colorado #2 the Mooney... #432 (way down the list) My presentation skills.
Very interesting, keep up the great content
Thanks Miles. I'll do my best
Awesome video! I'm glad you got your wing camera working.
Thanks Glenn, me too! I fixed it on the ground in Glenwood.
Earned a new sub, grew up flying with my father in England. Live in Grand Junction now, really want to get my pilots licence here in the US, nice to see all these Colorado airports.
Thanks Colorado Life. Welcome aboard!
Pure poetry and music included !
Thank you M. I really appreciate that.
I thought you were in trouble when Marble called for you, but that was so cool when she said, “you should have landed!”
You and me both. That's why I said "I'm just doing a low-approach"
Slow Groovin BBQ is the best! Let me know when you head there again. Would love to do some flying
Thanks Sam. It'll be summer before I head to Marble again. As soon as the snow melts the itch will set in...
Not that I don't like looking at your shoulder this whole time but I'm glad you got that wing cam yo and running 😅 Love the video edits and the time lapses from the wing cam
Thanks Just Dew It, I reset the cam on the ground in Glenwood. I probably wouldn't have visited Marble if I didn't have the wing camera going.
Super video. Nice view leaving Glenwood Springs. That runway at Marble looks pretty small!
Absolutely beautiful. Marble is small, but doable. Not for the inexperienced though.
Dude.. epic flight. My son and I are based out of KBJC... we own a Grumman Tiger... N951MK... would love to fly in them mountains some say... maybe when we upgrade to a Mooney in the future.
Fly safe and fly often!
Thanks Gordon. The Tiger could get into the high country. You'd need to keep it light and pick a nice calm day.
How cool of them at marble to be so nice! I've read enough horror stories with leaky tanks on the early mooney's I've never put mine down "off field". I really enjoy your videos, cant wait to do some mountain flying in my m20f executive some day very soon.
They are absolutely amazing people. Great point about the fuel tanks Landon... It's worth mentioning I have bladders in my Mooney, so I don't worry as much about leaks. I loose about 35lbs of useful load, but have the ability to flex with rough terrain (and turbulence).
Long ago I was in a club that bought a new M20F soon after they were available (I think 1967). As I recall, with one Narco Mark 12 nav/com it cost $20,000. Based in San Carlos, California, I few it all over the western US, including the Sierra mountains, and down into Baja. Great plane!
Love this airport, did my private check ride there and quite a bit of flying there. Can get very dicy in the summer in the afternoon. Those red cliffs give you great thermals on departure in the summer.
That makes sense Benton, that's on the eastern side of the valley so I think you'd get a little upslope air as well. Thanks for the tip!
Marble is a really cool little mountain town... I’ve heard the BBQ is awesome!
Dan, it really is!
just some absolute beautiful scenery
Thanks Frank.
Really enjoyed that! I’ve never been out there but in the sim, and Glenwood’s airport is definitely in a tight area. I always thought it’d be sketchy in real life during the summer, especially.
Also, looking forward to seeing your arrival into Marble when you get to land there.
Thanks Oni! It can be very docile on a good day (as depicted above). On a hot or windy day though, it's a completely different story.
Great video, thanks for sharing. I’m still trying to find the strip on Google maps and it doesn’t show on skyvector. How you find this?
C W, you won't find it on any aviation sectional. Consult the RAF Airfield guide - airfield.guide/filter_airports.asp I also included a link in the description of the video.
Really nice plane, where do you fly out of? I live in Colorado and I am looking At Mooneys online. I’m out of Colorado Air and in Space a Port, I’d love to check yours out in person if possible.
New to the channel, love your videos so far, keep it up!
Welcome aboard FP! Glad you're enjoying them.
WONDERFUL Video - My name is Glenn Woods -- That is one "N" and an "S" away from the name of that town.
That's awesome Glenn. You should visit Glenwood and get a photo :)
@@ManandaMooney That’s a great idea
Hi Christian, I have a question for you regarding the space in Mooney. Will a 5'10" person fit in the back. I have a feeling that four people might be a stretch, but three may do in a pinch. I'm comfortable with two others in my Archer, but three is getting close to overloading it with full fuel.
Hi Bruce, the backseat in my Mooney is pretty tight. That said, I’ve comfortably flown with 3 adults many times. With the front seats all the way back, there’s absolutely no legroom in the backseat so here’s how I load my plane: Pilot get’s in first and scoots his/her seat forward. Rear passenger(s) get in next and use space behind pilot seat for their legs. CoPilot position is the last to board. I usually fly with just 1 or 2 people. Occasionally 3, and very rarely (and for only short distances) 4. If you regularly fly 3+ you should probably consider a long-body Mooney. I leave some fuel behind whenever I'm carrying more than 2 people.
I live right next to the marble airstrip, cool to see a youtube video on it.
Very cool Trevin. That's a beautiful spot you've got there.
I went elk hunting in marble this past Oct and it’s extremely beautiful there, I need to fly in that area one of these days
Agreed Dan. Such a beautiful spot.
5:33 You passed over a white stripe painted on the runway at Glenwood Springs. This marks the mid-point of the runway length. I wish that was available at every high-altitude airport. In general, if I have not successfully accelerated to at least 70% of V1 by that point, then I will abort. Otherwise, I am committed to fly. Since you were already airborne by that point, your Mooney had performance to spare :-)
Great eye Jim! Not to give too much away, but the 50/70 rule was actually my next planned video...
I agree, that would be very helpful.
Question. What does wilderness have to do with where you can or can't fly? Seems like I see planes flying above wilderness all the time.
Pilots are requested (although not required) to maintain 2,000 ft. separation from Wilderness Areas. As I'm flying below the mountain tops in this video, I'm clearly not 2000 ft. above. Hence the reason I aimed to stay over the road.
Great videos. I moved out here about 2.5 years ago from Chicago for work. Love it. I'm in the process of building a home in Erie and own a Cirrus SR20 I keep at EIK. If you're ever looking for a co-pilot let me know!
Thanks jdmerrit! I'd be happy to fly with you sometime. During the winter months I'm always looking for a safety pilot to stay current.
@@ManandaMooney absolutely! I'm both Instrument & Commercially rated. Shoot me an email when you've got a chance and we can coordinate something. jdmerrit@yahoo.com. My name is John BTW.
A Cessna 177 would have twice the size windows and half the visibility as this bad boy. Love the retractable system.
Thanks Justwantahover. I'm a big fan of the Mooney (in case you couldn't tell).
Random question, but do you have long range fuel tanks? Some of your other videos show the fuel tank access panels on top and your filler cap looks further out the wing than my plane.
Hi JC. Yes, I have the O&N fuel bladder conversion with the 64 gallon option. You loose about 35lbs of useful load but gain piece of mind. I've been very happy with them and haven't had a single leak.
Another great video! Question: what is the cream square attached to the panel to the right of the Autopilot? CO detector?
Thank you Austin. Yes, that's a cheap, Chinese, battery operated CO detector. I got it on Amazon. Here's a 3 pack: www.amazon.com/Monoxide-Detector-Notification-Operated-Batteries/dp/B07TPHGD1R/ref=sr_1_40?crid=1YLNLDP544Y8C&dchild=1&keywords=carbon+monoxide+detector&qid=1609895920&sprefix=carbon+mo%2Caps%2C221&sr=8-40
@@ManandaMooney Interesting! Follow-up question: If you could add one thing to your plane, what would it be?
@@austingunn734 Easy peasy: a GFC 500. I already have the 2 G5's and the GTN650. I'm just waiting for that to be certified for my serial #.
@@ManandaMooney rad. I’ve got the Dynon Skyview HDX screens and the vertical AP panel that provides IAS climbs ... it’s the greatest thing ever. Are they at least working on something for your serial number? If so, any idea how long until it comes out?
Very nice! Man I’m an 18,000 plus hour guy and have no idea or experience in the mountains. I regularly fly over them and into destinations around the mountains but not like that. If I ever make it out there in my airplane I’m seeing if your available to give me some help. I wouldn’t dare do what your doing without someone with me experienced doing it. Nice flying brother
Right on! Thanks Michael.
Enjoyed your video! I used to live in the valley, so it was nice seeing it from the air. How did you come up with the name "Mooney?"
Thanks Carolyn. "Mooney" is actually the name of the aircraft manufacturer. Similar to Boeing or Airbus only much, much smaller :)
I’m from Paonia just on the other side of McClure and live and fly out of Fort Collins now but haven’t got a chance to fly around the western slope area yet.
Nice Dillon. McClure is kind of my go-to pass for any destinations to the southwest.
Did your Mooney come with the current panel or did you update? I'm looking at a C model and interested in any info on updating the panel. Thanks
Hi Robert, I've done most of the recent upgrades myself. They've been incremental upgrades as funds permit. Not all at once.
nutty i know, but would the private marble airfield be on Microsoft Flight Sim? If so, how would i find it? iD?
Unfortunately not. You'll find it on Google earth, but that's about it.
You would be surprised. They actually have a lot of small airfields. Look
It up on google earth and fly there and see.
So, are you not allowed to fly over the wilderness areas or did you not overfly them just for safety's sake?
t34bravo, whenever overflying wilderness areas, pilots are requested to maintain a minimum altitude of 2,000 feet above the surface. I was flying in the canyon so I clearly wasn't 2,000 ft. above the terrain. Flight above the road technically kept me out of the wilderness areas.
Most people clicked for the plane info, I came for the aerial view of my house lol
Ha, Glenwood or Marble?
@@ManandaMooney Glenwood, right under the flight path. You guys pass like 500 ft overhead, I'm about two miles south of end of the runway
oh wow, i had my high school graduation on that glenwood runway!
That's awesome. Thanks for sharing Voin.
Thanks for the video! I love the main shot over your shoulder. I have been uploading flying videos for fun recently and I was wondering, could you share what ND filter and camera/settings you are using. It’s impressive that both the outside and inside are so clear!
Thanks Zachary. There's been a lot of trial and error for the camera settings. I've settled on no ND filter, slightly overexposed, flat color profile, and high bitrate. I make all the other changes in post by crushing the highlights, bringing up the shadows, adding saturation and contrast back in, etc.
@@ManandaMooney wow, thanks. It’s amazing how much work can go into making just one video when you factor in all the post and trial and error. Thanks for the awesome content. Been really enjoying it,
Nice video!!! Nice plane!!! Of course I'm a little prejudice, lol.
Thanks Frank! Thanks to your family for building such a great plane :)
A fella I worked for 20 years ago almost killed his family at Glenwood. They were returning from St George Utah. The plane bounced a couple of times landing, then veered off the runway crashing thru a fence and into a stack of pipe.
The pilot went on to get an instrument rating, and another airplane.
Crazy story George. Glad everyone was alright.
You may have answered this already but what do you use to record the audio? Sounds really good.
Thanks Evan. I don't think i've had that question yet actually... I record straight to the in cabin GoPro. I use a headset adapter and the GoPro 3.5mm audio adapter.
Ooh so you’re the plane we see flying around all the time 😂😂
Rose, that was my first time to Glenwood and Marble... if you're talking about Longmont, then I'm guilty as charged ;)
no way this was filmed December 6th. Our winter can't be that bad... right? :( It does look much better now. I've lived here my whole life and the mountain tops are usually covered in December. Looks like summer time lol. Nice video though!
Logan, it was crazy to see so little snow. Thankfully it's been snowing fairly consistently since early December. Hopefully we can make up for lost time.
@@ManandaMooney we have a lot more now! That 9 inches last week really helped. It’s sad this is the first Christmas in a few years we haven’t gotten snow
What size engine is in the Mooney?
Gene, it has a Lycoming O-360 - that's a carbureted, naturally aspirated, 180hp engine. At 5,900 ft. DA (as was the case that day) the engine put out approximately 153hp on takeoff. A testament to the slippery design of the Mooney.
Beautiful.
Thank you G!
Two different airports. Two different challenges. What about Hayden or Westcliffe? Seemingly flat terrain but spooky crosswinds and downdrafts.
Grampa Badger, I agree that every airport presents its own unique challenges although Hayden and Silver West are fairly reserved compared to Marble and Glenwood. That's partly because I try to avoid flying on days when the winds in the mountains are >30 knots.
Slow Groovin' is a "must visit" spot when I visit family in Carbondale... and I know good barbecue, because I live in the barbecue capital of the world!
Agreed Christopher. You're definitely in the know.
Home airport 🙌🙌🙌
Sweeeet!
excellent
Thanks Alan!
Many more decisions to be made when approaching from Grand Junction, as are departures to the north out of Glenwood.
Yep, I tried to touch on that briefly J. Traffic favors landing north, and taking off south... obviously this isn't always an option. When taking off north, a left turnout to Rifle is preferred. When approaching from Junction, it's relatively easy to fly the left downwind for 32, or make a straight-in 14.
Dig your channel. I've a request. I use to own a home at the north end of horsetooth resevoir. Back in 91 could ya buzz it for me?
Ha, we'll see if I can weave that into a future video. FYI: the "buzz" would be at 1000ft AGL or higher.
Awesome channel man! I am up in Fort Collins if you ever need a co pilot/video man!
Thanks Shelby, I might take you up on that!
David Wartofsky appears at 3:30!
Great video, thanks!!! B.d.w . can you leave the mike alone!?! Keep them coming! From Montreal....
Thanks Bikes&Bees, believe me, I'm trying. I've suggested others make a drinking game out of if... if you dare.
Awesome
Thank you Ruben!
Head to Johnson Creek... Or Mile High.
Yup...but not in your Mooney.
I could easily do Johnson Creek. That's actually on my list of places to visit... Mile Hi? No way José!
@@ManandaMooney I was kidding about mile high...
Glenwood 2021
Not quite sure what to make of that rally cry...
Wow
I'll take that as a compliment Eric ;)
Looked like some life below zero stuff right doe
It's a beautiful place if you ever get the chance to visit.
You should fly into ksbs. Steamboat Springs. That's a fun one. Make sure you don't go to khdn though, that's an easy one!
Schyler, I go to KSBS all the time... I even have footage of a couple flights to/from there. I just need time to sit down and edit it.