Amazing Old Jewellers Trick of the Trade

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    cbilton.creato... A technique for stopping solder joins re melting when you need to make a new join very close to one.
    This is a very useful technique which allows you to solder next to hallmarks, brand stamps and engraving with no risk of flooding solder in to them and accidently erasing them!
    People wear their jewellery, especially wedding rings for many decades. As people become elderly its common for their knuckles to enlarge and so as a jeweller you will regularly be resizing rings. Its likely they will have hand engraving around the inside that has tremendous sentimental value to the customer. You cant NOT damage it!
    This technique was taught to me right at the start of my apprenticeship. The man who taught me was called Roy Woolford. He was an engraver who also did a bit of jewellery. He was at the end of his career having worked at the firm for 50 years!
    I have not used it many times in my career but trying it here on video it worked so well im beginning to think I should use it more often from now on.
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Комментарии • 54

  • @tobymenstroni8765
    @tobymenstroni8765 5 месяцев назад

    Absolutely brilliant. I am a beginner, and I am learning so much from these videos. I have been unemployed for almost a year, but as soon as I can I will become a patron.

  • @eivindkofod1774
    @eivindkofod1774 3 года назад +12

    Liquid paper (correction fluid / fool's ink ( tosse-blæk) ) is good for this. The guys at Martapura market taught me to use cheap nail polish.

    • @eivindkofod1774
      @eivindkofod1774 3 года назад +3

      BTW, the Martapura (Near Banjarmasin, southern tip of Borneo) boys also taught me to use tooth paste as a heat sink to protect stones and existing solder seams when soldering. When I lived there, I enjoyed sitting with them learning how to do advanced things with simple means.

    • @c.magdaleno1376
      @c.magdaleno1376 Год назад

      ​​@@eivindkofod1774 Oh, what a great tip!! BTW, I've heard that the fumes of some types of correction fluid are very toxic, so u have to take precautions.

  • @GopalNandy13
    @GopalNandy13 3 года назад +3

    My father (who is a master goldsmith with 55+ years of experience) taught me the same, except that I mix rouge with kerosene instead of water, and then apply it on the required surface. With kerosene, the rouge blends effortlessly and is very easy to apply onto the metal.

    • @DiamondMounter
      @DiamondMounter  3 года назад +4

      That sounds like a good trick. Thank you I love it lots of jewelry making tips from all over the world are coming here!

  • @laurarivers6090
    @laurarivers6090 10 месяцев назад

    Wonderful and so helpful! So nice to learn from you!

  • @JayDub_143
    @JayDub_143 3 года назад +4

    Alot of people like to use paper correction fluid (white out) but the chemicals when its touched with the torch can be toxic... I actually take a #2 school pencil and color the area with the pencil I do not want soldered and remarkably it works😁 Now I want to try this trick with the rouge... Thank you for sharing💖

  • @christopherpeterson4224
    @christopherpeterson4224 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much for all your valuable help!

  • @DavidDouglasDiamondsMarietta
    @DavidDouglasDiamondsMarietta 3 года назад +1

    I learned this trick many years back. It’s has saved me many times. Thanks for sharing.

  • @flyingcheff
    @flyingcheff 3 года назад +5

    Yellow ochre paint - or any other mineral-based paint, works too. Great video, thank you. Why a Smith Little instead of an ambient air torch? Love to know why you choose. I totally appreciate your straight-up request and logical reasoning for asking for support - delightfully refreshing. Definite SUB!

    • @DiamondMounter
      @DiamondMounter  3 года назад +2

      I hate this torch! Its all I can use at the moment as there are complicated rules in Japan for people having powerful soldering equipment at home. I need to get a licence to be able to hire the gas cylinders but cant speak Japanese so I am unable to attend the 2 day course. I am trying to find a way because this stupid little torch is really holding me back being able to work at my full potential

  • @ReC-DZ
    @ReC-DZ Год назад +1

    This is a great tip which I’m going to try. I try to artificially oxidise the bits I don’t want solder to run to when I’m working on Silver but obv that doesn’t work on gold so this is def worth trying. I’ve heard about tipp-ex fumes too, not sure if it’s true but fumes are already plentiful in jewellery so it’s best to avoid them as a rule!

  • @rexgeorg7324
    @rexgeorg7324 3 года назад +3

    That was quality join bro "Pucker"

  • @ruthdederich3622
    @ruthdederich3622 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks again and again. I laugh when thinking about your cubist sculpture. The music is hilarious.

  • @shadowmihaiu
    @shadowmihaiu 3 года назад +1

    Very useful pro tip. Thank you for making my potentially less stressful.

  • @paulwhellams8628
    @paulwhellams8628 2 года назад +1

    40 odd yrs now i,ve been using rouge mixed up with methylated spirits drys quick never had any issues still using it. love seeing all your blogs you make me laugh lol...

  • @tywhitmire860
    @tywhitmire860 3 года назад +1

    Peter Keep of Jewelry Training Solutions in Australia teaches this technique with the rouge and water but there's lots of products such as water based white out, etc thar work too. It's a great technique. Thanks so much for sharing!

  • @Shukarr
    @Shukarr 3 года назад +1

    Thank you sincerely for sharing your skills with us.

  • @MarianaRolando
    @MarianaRolando Год назад +2

    W use Liquid Paper in South America

  • @duanedodson1
    @duanedodson1 8 месяцев назад

    I have always been told to use iso alcohol instead of water, it dissolves the polish more readily.

  • @nobleenchantpbkc8082
    @nobleenchantpbkc8082 10 месяцев назад

    thank you!

  • @johnruschki2377
    @johnruschki2377 2 года назад +1

    Amazing tip Thank you! Looking forward to joining your patreon soon

  • @garygregory8025
    @garygregory8025 3 месяца назад

    thanks for the video, I just use liquid white-out brush it on any area you don't want solder to flow

  • @Yukkaguitar
    @Yukkaguitar 3 года назад +1

    Nice trick! Great videos!

  • @c.magdaleno1376
    @c.magdaleno1376 Год назад

    Thank you so much for sharing what you know, and sharing your honest experiences!

  • @brianwilleto3094
    @brianwilleto3094 2 года назад +1

    Nail polish works excellent also.

  • @calebwiggins3042
    @calebwiggins3042 3 года назад +1

    My teacher taught me this as well but nail varnish or liquid paper work just as well

  • @woodndrum303
    @woodndrum303 Год назад +1

    Simple solution for the problem, like always “easy” when you know how! Thanks 😂

  • @daries
    @daries 3 года назад +1

    You can use Liquid Paper also the one with the brush.

  • @oldschoolkrist
    @oldschoolkrist 3 года назад +3

    back in the 80's we didnt have a laser and would use "white out" for these types of things. not sure if they even make white out in 2021. great tip!

    • @elizabethtailor111
      @elizabethtailor111 2 года назад +1

      White out is a great resist for etching too. Nothing gets through that stuff!

  • @gaillouisejewellery1079
    @gaillouisejewellery1079 3 года назад +1

    I bought a bit of powdered rouge years ago. Works perfectly for this. Especially if you’re trying to solder patterned silver together. I just leave it in a tiny pot and add a drop of water as needed. Much easier and less faffing.

    • @DiamondMounter
      @DiamondMounter  3 года назад +2

      Ive never heard of powdered rouge. Whats it for?
      Sounds ideal for this trick though

    • @gaillouisejewellery1079
      @gaillouisejewellery1079 3 года назад +1

      @@DiamondMounter I bought it before I learnt to make jewellery for polishing a scratch out of glass. Cheap as chips on eBay 😊👍

  • @johnjewell219
    @johnjewell219 3 года назад +1

    What about yellow ocher?

  • @MsRockabillyBopper
    @MsRockabillyBopper 3 года назад +1

    Good tip, thanks

  • @mitsospapas3306
    @mitsospapas3306 3 года назад +4

    excellent tip it is very useful,thanks for sharing well done. I hope soon become a patreon to help you grow your amazing channel keep up the good work

  • @CONEHEADDK
    @CONEHEADDK 3 года назад +4

    I've barely tried it, but I seem to remember, that a soft pencil can do the solder stop trick pretty well

    • @Greg042869
      @Greg042869 Год назад +1

      In Germany, they sell a graphite liquid called Contex for this purpose.

    • @CONEHEADDK
      @CONEHEADDK Год назад

      @@Greg042869 I know. I have some. I just wanted to share some advice, that might be able to save people some time and money. I've also read/seen something about "burnt umber" water colours being able to do the trick - I SEEM TO REMEMBER something about. I suggest people testing it. It sounds kinda likely, if it's made of some sand/clay or something.

  • @stephencoster9532
    @stephencoster9532 3 года назад

    I use water-based TipEx, no nasty fumes when you heat/solder near it. I'm with @Flying Chef I love the way you ask for help and explain why you need it. I'm looking for the 'Join' button to go to£10 Would you consider a PO Box for your dad so we can send you things that might help the channel? Stay safe...Steve...

  • @klondyguerra
    @klondyguerra 3 года назад +1

    Thanks so much - that is so very cool. What is the shaft you use?

  • @stratosk6408
    @stratosk6408 3 года назад +1

    Good old tip. What type is your micromotor(brand)? Thanks

  • @Trapezius8oblique
    @Trapezius8oblique 3 года назад +1

    Hi, just found you. Subscribed. Enjoying your videos great advice thanks. While in Japan are you learning techniques from Japanese jewellers ?

    • @DiamondMounter
      @DiamondMounter  3 года назад +2

      No but I see what they are doing and am inspired by whats possible

  • @Junoshelly
    @Junoshelly 3 года назад +1

    Chris, where did you get your initial stamp made?

    • @CONEHEADDK
      @CONEHEADDK 3 года назад +1

      Ask your "local" supply shop. They can tell you. BUT be carefull about the info you use about your logo(?) - I got one made, and they didn't read the drawing correctly, so I'm going to get a new one done, before I start up "for real" - if that ever happens.

  • @lilianash3049
    @lilianash3049 3 года назад +2

    Would that work on platinum and hard platinum solder (1500)?

  • @pyrosparkes
    @pyrosparkes 3 года назад +1

    very click-baity thumb nail, and an great tip, thank you!
    they didn't buy the ring from Tiffany & co, someone bought it for them, and the brand is the only reason they like it lol