Using Your Rawhide Mallet and Why You Should Bin it!

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024

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  • @kevinsimmonds7082
    @kevinsimmonds7082 3 года назад +12

    Ive never had a problem with mine, even on thick rings, perhaps like anything in this trade, its down to being trained to use it!

    • @sezstamorae9004
      @sezstamorae9004 11 месяцев назад

      What’s the best way to condition and use it!

  • @mariadesa4162
    @mariadesa4162 3 года назад +5

    I thought it was me, I've been trying for years to get along with mine. Despite trying to soften it over the years, (since it's dead hard when you first buy it) it still imparts marks onto my silver and it's driven me mad. I've kept persevering with it though. I don't think I'll be bothering any more. Thanks for that !

  • @UnrulyHousewife
    @UnrulyHousewife 3 года назад +3

    Good luck with the channel, you're really good at it.

  • @haidafella8651
    @haidafella8651 3 года назад +5

    Wouldn’t be as much work if you weren’t choked up so high on the handle... should take two or three good hits with a rawhide mallet to reform a silver ring. Also brace your mandrel. Tip on a stump.. seriously, fewer, more deliberate blows.. more weight does help..

  • @griggauk5834
    @griggauk5834 3 года назад +3

    Never had an issue with rawhide, depends if you’re in a rush I guess. Or use your bench hole to support.

  • @shadowynne
    @shadowynne 3 года назад +5

    How very strange! I have never marked a piece or struggled to shape a piece with rawhide! I really appreciate your experiment, very well done. Really interesting to see other people's experiences with tools and work. You have yourself a new sub! Also... I hate nylon hammers! Always marks my work! 😂

    • @DiamondMounter
      @DiamondMounter  3 года назад +2

      haha opposite! Its fun tho how different tools and techniques work differently for other people

  • @BillyBlaze7
    @BillyBlaze7 Год назад +1

    I use rawhide hammers for leather work because it doesnt mushroom the top of my metal tools, theres a tool for every job just gotta find the right one for the work you do

  • @pepsigalpt
    @pepsigalpt 3 года назад +3

    Interestingly on my degree course we got taught that the rawhide was essential and was softer to stop the marking of the metal (I always took that to be like slowly and gently moving the metal as well) and the steel hammers were for forming and adding texture, however having said that it’s one of those tools that I rarely reach for as it’s not fast enough! Think I’ll be keeping my eyes peeled for a good nylon hammer next to replace it! Awesome video thanks for sharing!

    • @DiamondMounter
      @DiamondMounter  3 года назад

      Great. I was still an apprentice when I started to realize the rawhide wasn't very good. When I got a job in London all the other jewellers said the same thing about them so thats why I confidently say they're no good to people now. However many jewellers love them and swear they're essential but I cant understand why

  • @sSHAPZz
    @sSHAPZz 3 года назад +4

    I'm kinda laughing along with you on this. I reached for my big trusty doggie mallet recently & my boss went ballistic saying, "No, you need to get yourself one of these!", holding up a mini nylon hammer.
    I was surprised at that & after watching this vid & thinking about how much time & effort it usually takes to move the smallest amount of metal, I think I'll be picking one up very soon. Thanks for the tip!

  • @jonathonalsum9063
    @jonathonalsum9063 8 месяцев назад

    Smacking the algorithms. Thanks again! 🎉

  • @yuietakho4398
    @yuietakho4398 3 года назад +2

    What if we want to shape round wire rings? and dont want the flat finish the metal hammer
    would leave? thanks

  • @bettybho2168
    @bettybho2168 Год назад

    Thanks for the rant

  • @Shukarr
    @Shukarr Год назад +1

    What material are you using s your cach? I just built my first bench and née to make a catch but wasn’t sure what too use. Love your vids thank you

    • @DiamondMounter
      @DiamondMounter  Год назад

      Its nothing special. I bought it online. Search for fire proof faux leather cloth

  • @Pbrady711
    @Pbrady711 3 года назад +1

    Thanks again brother , switched my rawhide up with a dead blow with nylon on one side and solid rubber in the other ( I think that’s what it is) it was cheap from harbor freight and I always avoided it, now I am so happy I got it and am suprised how well it is suited for jewelry . I was sick of the rawhide and even started using the little gold smith hammer , 😂 that left way more marks but was way faster .

    • @DiamondMounter
      @DiamondMounter  3 года назад +1

      Yeah Nylon is so much better! People get stuck in their ways and continue to use rawhide.

  • @cheekyj4794
    @cheekyj4794 3 года назад +4

    I agree, I used a raw hide mallet once when I was learning to work with metals. Quickly swaped to the nylon versions, much better.
    Also, don't give a dog rawhide it's not good for their bellies, a bin is a much better place. Good joke at the end, lol.

  • @carlosvdd1
    @carlosvdd1 3 года назад +1

    I dont understand why you hold the ring mandrel freely and let every strike lose hammering force with both hammers?
    I always hold the bottom and have the top resting in to a groove on my peg so it doesnt move with every strike. It makes the tougher hammering jobs so fast, even a rawhide mallet with its rubbish spongey head is much more effective. (I only use a rawhide when the missus and kids are in bed and I'm working at home, the sound doesnt ring around the house like metal on metal)
    Barring that, I actually really appreciate your videos, you have a lot of great knowledge others would be saying "Become a member of my online training school for £100 a month and i will teach you poor techniques"
    I appreciate the time and effort you put in to these videos.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @alvinadesir5801
    @alvinadesir5801 9 месяцев назад

    Oh my goodness 😂😂😂… why haven’t I come to that conclusion, it’s true, it has no oompth… totally buying one of those nylon ones now !! ❤😂

  • @lanehartwell
    @lanehartwell 3 года назад +1

    Hi Chris, can you tell me what the metal hammer you used on the ring is? Or suggest a similar one? Thanks!

    • @DiamondMounter
      @DiamondMounter  3 года назад

      Its just a usual jeweller hammer. Available at any jewellery making tool shops. One side is flat and the other is slightly domed

    • @CecilXzandu
      @CecilXzandu 2 года назад +1

      Its called a planishing hammer

  • @Vgudorf
    @Vgudorf 3 года назад +1

    Huh. I literally just received the rawhide hammer I ordered two days ago. Haven’t even had a chance to “condition it” (AKA, smash the heck out of it against a concrete surface) yet. I’m new to all this jewelry making stuff, and as you’ve already pointed out, the prevailing wisdom had been that rawhide hammers are essential to making rings. I’ve been eyeing one of those expensive urethane hammers by Bonny Don, though, and wondered if it might be a good tool for shaping rings on the steel mandrel. Have you ever tried urethane hammers, and if so, would you recommend them?

    • @DiamondMounter
      @DiamondMounter  3 года назад

      No harm in trying to get on with your rawhide for a while. They're not as effective as other mallets though. So you'll have to hit the ring a lot harder and lots more times than with a nylon mallet. This is what causes the size to go up. I may do another video on using the rawhide soon

  • @g.m.5412
    @g.m.5412 3 года назад +1

    I agree!! Really enjoying your vids, thank you :)

  • @Trapezius8oblique
    @Trapezius8oblique 3 года назад +1

    Hi, new to your channel and enjoying them. I just purchased a raw hide last week. Up to now I’ve used nylon for years. But all worn tools need replacing at some stage.
    So I understand your point.
    But Just a question.... the side of your rawhide was naturally so worn, and ineffective because of all the times you used it, in the past. Could you tell me if the other side of the rawhide was unraveling as well from the wear and tear.? Thank you.

    • @DiamondMounter
      @DiamondMounter  3 года назад +2

      No I just used to only use one side on purpose. No reason for doing so just Im weird like that. They start to wear out and change shape immediately and jewellers become fond of the wear and tear that shows. I just see it as conformation that the mallet is useless. The jewellery is forming the mallet but its meant to be the mallet forming the jewellery lol

  • @flyingcheff
    @flyingcheff 3 года назад +2

    Wouldn't the steel hammer ding the outer surface? I still agree!

  • @anthonyharris955
    @anthonyharris955 Год назад

    I bought a nylon hammer years back. I hit a ring twice and the end broke off. 🤣 Must have been the way it was constructed, and I perhaps should have sent it back, but I ended up sawing off the handle and coating the end with setters wax to hold pieces. I haven't made many rings of late, and just recently noticed that my 'dog treat' hammer has started to unravel. Perhaps its time to retry that nylon!

  • @olegpetelevitch4443
    @olegpetelevitch4443 2 года назад

    I use the white nylon one instead ! I agree i used one in my apprenticeship and hated it !

  • @johnbday4764
    @johnbday4764 3 года назад +6

    Interesting, thanks. I would worry that metal on metal could mark thie ring

    • @DiamondMounter
      @DiamondMounter  3 года назад +2

      It does. There will be a flat spot to remove but its far less work than re sizing the ring back down after half an hour of banging it with a useless mallet

  • @ro-romack8223
    @ro-romack8223 Год назад +1

    Need to give those much more welly, control can suffer... I think that type you have are far too light, i hated using them. I got one of those Thor ones and the weighting is amazing. I love using it. Game changer for heavier work, you'd like em👍

    • @DiamondMounter
      @DiamondMounter  Год назад +1

      Thanks yes I've since learned about lead filled mallets and they work much more effectively.

  • @thomasbeckett1245
    @thomasbeckett1245 Год назад

    I’ve used rawhide mallets, for leather crafts.. they won’t hurt the punches. Have decent weight, and are affordable. But to compare a flattener hammer is uncommon. More it’s important to understand why you use a mallet or hammer.

  • @insederec
    @insederec 2 года назад

    I use them to be gentle with potentially paper thin hollow areas. Repair jewelry is funny. The light weight I take as insurance for not completely ruining a cheap, worn out ring. If I need more power I switch to a brass/nylon combo hammer.

    • @insederec
      @insederec 2 года назад

      Also, the ONLY time I've ever not been able to round something with just 5 swings of a rawhide was 10k white. Everything else just moves into place with very gentle taps. No swings. Could be that I bought a heavier rawhide than some other people got. They sell them up to like 10oz I think.

    • @DiamondMounter
      @DiamondMounter  2 года назад

      @@insederec Those low carat white metals are really springy sometimes! My rawhide weighs nothing but Ive been told some have lead inside to add weight

  • @jerkerpersson8578
    @jerkerpersson8578 3 года назад

    Hi, I totally agree but have not heard anyone else make that remark. Not only does it have to be quite big to have any weight but further when
    Getting worn it is marring newly annealed silver. I am going to change to a smallish dead blow hammer with exchangeable nylon heads.
    Those heads can also be changed to polyurethane heads marring even less and conforming slightly to hollow ware or larger synclastic bangles etc.

  • @davidgagnon2849
    @davidgagnon2849 20 дней назад

    Not all rawhide mallets are just a rawhide head. Many have steel heads with rawhide inserts and are about two pounds.

  • @juliekirk2777
    @juliekirk2777 3 года назад

    Do you ever use your ring sizer to round your rings?

    • @DiamondMounter
      @DiamondMounter  3 года назад +1

      Yes! But not often. and never on anything stone set. The ring compressor cones can be useful to get wedding bands perfectly round and ready to solder with a tight join

  • @Ty-ri7dy
    @Ty-ri7dy 3 года назад

    Thank you sir! I've been about to buy a rawhide mallet, but I don't think I will now. Possibly a small one for specific jobs, but I appreciate this video for teaching me common sense. I've been using metal hammers for everything since I started 2 years ago. There's a lot of tools that are used and even considered "must have" by jewelers that you can actually do without. But since I'm a beginner, I'm willing to learn and make up my own rules AFTER I've learned the correct way.
    Thanks for your videos.

    • @DiamondMounter
      @DiamondMounter  3 года назад +5

      Yes absolutely. There is a whole industry based on inventing tools to be sold to the jewellery trade that are nonsense really. It my be an idea for a future video where I point out silly tools in a trade catalogue and explain why you dont them

  • @crazy-qo8pz
    @crazy-qo8pz 3 года назад +1

    My dog ate mine a few years ago

  • @StrykerTV
    @StrykerTV 3 года назад

    Always used a Nylon hammer ever since I started. I never even liked the idea of a rawhide hammer.

  • @Byuthi
    @Byuthi 3 года назад +1

    I don’t like the rawhide mallets because 1. they mark your metal 2. it’s a dead animal on a stick. Yuck. Love my recoil free nylon hammer with added weight in it.

  • @jeanpauldiaz2125
    @jeanpauldiaz2125 8 месяцев назад

    I have a general question for the comment have any of you guys heard of a rawhide mallet made of platypus? Some guy at work is attesting that is leather used on the hammer. I can’t say otherwise since I have never heard of a rawhide mallet until today.

  • @full7379
    @full7379 2 года назад

    Maybe somebody mentioned it already. But rawhide Malletts come filled with lead. I think most professionals stick with those.

  • @sipthewater
    @sipthewater 2 года назад

    Rawhide hammers are the BEST for jewelry smithing. Must always be conditioned and there are many ways to treat them. A jeweler with a rawhide mallet in the bin and who moves to another country must make videos to try to keep eating.

  • @kontrajewellery
    @kontrajewellery 3 года назад

    To be honest I never used Mallet hammer but always nylon one .

  • @cheesesteakable
    @cheesesteakable 2 года назад +2

    Doing it wrong with both hammer buddy.

  • @XVRickXV
    @XVRickXV 3 года назад

    Good to know. Don't have a doggy mallet. I was thinking of making one. Now its going straight to the bottom of the list.

  • @APZANATTA
    @APZANATTA 2 года назад

    Perfeito

  • @marienicolebijoux
    @marienicolebijoux 3 года назад

    Thanks for this!

  • @JavenarchX
    @JavenarchX Год назад

    Your rawhide hammer is too big for the job. I havent had any problems with mine. And metal hammers dent

  • @calebwiggins3042
    @calebwiggins3042 3 года назад +2

    Should have re annealed the rings you work hardened the metal by bending it

  • @cheesesteakable
    @cheesesteakable 2 года назад

    You need to rest the mandrell on your bench. You are losing all the force.

  • @elainebates6967
    @elainebates6967 Год назад

    This example is rather bad. If you had used the opposite side of the mallet, it may have worked better.

  • @capnspicy5565
    @capnspicy5565 2 года назад +2

    20 years, can't work the hammer, moves to Japan, hammer still doesn't work, nor do you, good job

  • @YarHarFD
    @YarHarFD 11 месяцев назад

    You barely used any force on the rawhide and then started hitting it down the mandrel. Maybe don't choke up on a 3 oz hammer? Silly demo

  • @bigmotter001
    @bigmotter001 Год назад

    WOW, I hope he found a new country or another occupation. He purposely made the raw hide hammer to look like it wasn't working. I think he is only looking to get a lot of views on RUclips to make money! Creating wrong ideas is not beneficial for beginners in jewelry making or helping their understanding of proper tool use!