Shallow forefoot volume has always been a bugbear of mine with Altras, it forced me to wide fit HOKAs -Arahi & Bondi. They've fixed the volume with the later Olympus versions. Great review.
@@barefootrunreview Don't worry about quality. Hell, I don't even think my vids are particularly high in quality. I think you have a few interesting takes on the shoes your reviewing and I think you're doing great
Go up a half size. These are tight. Yes, it's because of the depth but that translates to width if you have a high instep (like me). Taking out the insole makes a difference but if I'd gone up a half size maybe this would not have been necessary. My Olympus 4s were way more comfortable and cost me the same money.
What Altra have been doing with toe box size is strange. The Lone Peak and the Olympus are super spacious to the point my foot can slip around in there. The recent models of the Superior are so shallow what my toes catch on the upper. The Timp was the only one with a sensible toe box volume, if they're changing that one too I can't understand what's Altra's audience anymore. Super-spacious shoes for hikers and super shallow shoes for short-distance runners.... where are the Ultra runners gonna go? Topo Athletic? Too bad, because I always wished for a Vibram Timp.
I tend to agree, but like you say, there are still options in the Altra lineup. I personally make most of these options work, but still my favourite is the Superior, even though it's shallow. A quick switch of the insoles makes it comfortable for me. Have you tried anything like this? Otherwise, I avoid Topo because of the pronounced arch support. I don't think it belongs in shoes of this kind.
Sure thing! I used some old Inov8 insoles that I had. Xero Shoes sell some insole which are around 2-3mm. xeroshoes.com/shop/product-category/extras/ and I've seen some similar ones on Amazon too.
Yeah you could, but the footbed is kinda rubberized/tacky, so it may rub over time. What do you think? Have you ran with out insoles over longer periods of time?
I wouldn't personally, but it depends on your feet and foot strength. I would usually advise opting for a more flexible option such as the Superior or Lone Peak, especially for hiking. But if you're used to stiffer shoes, you may have to take some time to transition into these options.
@@veitastic6866 The outsoles on the Lone Peak and Superiors are Altra's MaxTrac which I wouldn't say is as good as Vibram, but it's better than it used to be. If you're trails are mainly dry, you'll be fine with the MaxTrac, but if they are little more muddy, or there are lots of technical rocky trails, the Vibrams, and the Timps would do better.
I used some old Inov8 insoles I had hanging around. If you're looking to buy some, I know Xero Shoes sell their insoles which around around 2-3mm thick. xeroshoes.com/shop/extras/replacement-insoles/
As also a barefoot shoe anyways runner, my Lumos like run up to like 20-30 miles but REI today and I seen these on special and they had one pair of my size so I put them on and they actually felt pretty good. What is the ground feel like probably almost nonexistent but the other thing is does the shoe feel soft underneath? I just return the innovates I hadmade me lose my balance a few times just curious
@@toddboucher3302 very little ground feel, and I'd say they're not too soft compared with other cushioned shoes. They have their place for fast rugged terrain. But for a barefoot runner they may be a bit too disconnected from the ground.
I tried these on today at REI. They feel better than my Olympus 5 Low Hike GTX. The toe box is higher, the cushion is perfect, the uppers are flexible and well ventilated. I mainly use Topo Athletics, but also have a few Altras. I'm thinking of adding a pair of these to my life. Thanx for the video my Brother 👍
Hi Nick ! thank you for this review, I actually have high rise foot and was worried about timp5 will be uncomfortable, where do you recommend to get 2mm insoles?
Sure thing! I used some old Inov8 insoles I had hanging around. You could also try the Vivo insoles you have already. But if you're looking to buy some, I know Xero Shoes sell their insoles which around around 2-3mm thick. xeroshoes.com/shop/extras/replacement-insoles/
Hey man, Great review! I also like minimalist shoes. I've got over two thousand miles on my vivo primus lites. I just picked up the timp after I saw your review and because I've used almost every timp model ever made. Can I just ask what insoles you put into the shoes? I would love to do the same. I've always looked for thinner insoles but never purchased them. Thanks!
Sure thing! I used some old Inov8 insoles I had hanging around. You could also try the Vivo insoles you have already. But if you're looking to buy some, I know Xero Shoes sell their insoles which around around 2-3mm thick. xeroshoes.com/shop/extras/replacement-insoles/
Thanks so much for the great review!! Yes, swapping around insoles is a solution I discovered pretty quickly when I started running, works for quite a range of problems with different shoes!!! I also often like different socks with different shoes too!! My mouth dropped open at your wife's experience with the durability though... is she one of those runners who tends to chew through shoes at all??
Man, I ordered a pair, tried them on and loved the feel! BUT they did rub against my ankle, due to my pronation I guess. Had to return them, what a bummer. Do not have this issue with my Superior 5, Escalante 2,5 or the Lone Peak 8.
Well I’ll stick with the Lone Peak 8’s great shoes. Have a pair of Altra Vanish Tempo on order, for longer road-days. But the Eascalante 2,5 are awesome as well
Thanks a lot! I used some old Inov8 insoles I had hanging around. But you could use any others you may have hanging around. Otherwise if you're looking to buy some, I know Xero Shoes sell their insoles which around around 2-3mm thick. xeroshoes.com/shop/extras/replacement-insoles/
Shallow forefoot volume has always been a bugbear of mine with Altras, it forced me to wide fit HOKAs -Arahi & Bondi. They've fixed the volume with the later Olympus versions. Great review.
Agreed. The only one I've found to be deep is the Lone Peak. Ironically that's too deep for me and ends up in a sloppy fit. :)
Great detailed review thanks
Thanks for watching!
Great review, Nick! Good to see you making vids!
Thanks buddy! Not your quality, but I had to start! :)
@@barefootrunreview Don't worry about quality. Hell, I don't even think my vids are particularly high in quality. I think you have a few interesting takes on the shoes your reviewing and I think you're doing great
Go up a half size. These are tight. Yes, it's because of the depth but that translates to width if you have a high instep (like me). Taking out the insole makes a difference but if I'd gone up a half size maybe this would not have been necessary. My Olympus 4s were way more comfortable and cost me the same money.
How do you find the length especially with the stiffer rocketed base? Does the roll through transition well under the ball of the foot?
What Altra have been doing with toe box size is strange. The Lone Peak and the Olympus are super spacious to the point my foot can slip around in there. The recent models of the Superior are so shallow what my toes catch on the upper. The Timp was the only one with a sensible toe box volume, if they're changing that one too I can't understand what's Altra's audience anymore.
Super-spacious shoes for hikers and super shallow shoes for short-distance runners.... where are the Ultra runners gonna go? Topo Athletic?
Too bad, because I always wished for a Vibram Timp.
I tend to agree, but like you say, there are still options in the Altra lineup. I personally make most of these options work, but still my favourite is the Superior, even though it's shallow. A quick switch of the insoles makes it comfortable for me. Have you tried anything like this?
Otherwise, I avoid Topo because of the pronounced arch support. I don't think it belongs in shoes of this kind.
Thanks for the review! I too love the show but feel it's too shallow. What 2mm insoles did you get that fit the shoe?
Sure thing! I used some old Inov8 insoles that I had.
Xero Shoes sell some insole which are around 2-3mm. xeroshoes.com/shop/product-category/extras/ and I've seen some similar ones on Amazon too.
@@barefootrunreview Wonderful, thanks! Just ordered from Xero.
The volume is so small especially on the midfoot. I have swapped the insole and it is still extremely tight.
Fair comment. We're all individual. What shoes do you find fits the volume of your foot best?
You can run with these without insoles
Yeah you could, but the footbed is kinda rubberized/tacky, so it may rub over time. What do you think? Have you ran with out insoles over longer periods of time?
@@barefootrunreview yes, I didn't have any problems
Hey there, would you recommend the Altra Timp 5 for hiking as well?
I wouldn't personally, but it depends on your feet and foot strength.
I would usually advise opting for a more flexible option such as the Superior or Lone Peak, especially for hiking. But if you're used to stiffer shoes, you may have to take some time to transition into these options.
@@barefootrunreview how about their vibrams? Are they good as the Timp one?
@@veitastic6866 The outsoles on the Lone Peak and Superiors are Altra's MaxTrac which I wouldn't say is as good as Vibram, but it's better than it used to be. If you're trails are mainly dry, you'll be fine with the MaxTrac, but if they are little more muddy, or there are lots of technical rocky trails, the Vibrams, and the Timps would do better.
Where do you find a plain 2mm insole?
I used some old Inov8 insoles I had hanging around. If you're looking to buy some, I know Xero Shoes sell their insoles which around around 2-3mm thick. xeroshoes.com/shop/extras/replacement-insoles/
As also a barefoot shoe anyways runner, my Lumos like run up to like 20-30 miles but REI today and I seen these on special and they had one pair of my size so I put them on and they actually felt pretty good. What is the ground feel like probably almost nonexistent but the other thing is does the shoe feel soft underneath? I just return the innovates I hadmade me lose my balance a few times just curious
@@toddboucher3302 very little ground feel, and I'd say they're not too soft compared with other cushioned shoes. They have their place for fast rugged terrain. But for a barefoot runner they may be a bit too disconnected from the ground.
I tried these on today at REI. They feel better than my Olympus 5 Low Hike GTX. The toe box is higher, the cushion is perfect, the uppers are flexible and well ventilated. I mainly use Topo Athletics, but also have a few Altras. I'm thinking of adding a pair of these to my life.
Thanx for the video my Brother 👍
That's awesome! I'm glad you like them!
Hi Nick ! thank you for this review, I actually have high rise foot and was worried about timp5 will be uncomfortable, where do you recommend to get 2mm insoles?
Sure thing! I used some old Inov8 insoles I had hanging around. You could also try the Vivo insoles you have already. But if you're looking to buy some, I know Xero Shoes sell their insoles which around around 2-3mm thick. xeroshoes.com/shop/extras/replacement-insoles/
Hey man,
Great review! I also like minimalist shoes. I've got over two thousand miles on my vivo primus lites. I just picked up the timp after I saw your review and because I've used almost every timp model ever made. Can I just ask what insoles you put into the shoes? I would love to do the same. I've always looked for thinner insoles but never purchased them. Thanks!
Sure thing! I used some old Inov8 insoles I had hanging around. You could also try the Vivo insoles you have already. But if you're looking to buy some, I know Xero Shoes sell their insoles which around around 2-3mm thick. xeroshoes.com/shop/extras/replacement-insoles/
Thanks so much for the great review!! Yes, swapping around insoles is a solution I discovered pretty quickly when I started running, works for quite a range of problems with different shoes!!! I also often like different socks with different shoes too!! My mouth dropped open at your wife's experience with the durability though... is she one of those runners who tends to chew through shoes at all??
That's great. Any way to customize the shoe fit is super important! Thanks
Just ran in them luv em , my knee which had been a bit sore was fine
That's great! Glad to be heading it!
Man, I ordered a pair, tried them on and loved the feel! BUT they did rub against my ankle, due to my pronation I guess. Had to return them, what a bummer. Do not have this issue with my Superior 5, Escalante 2,5 or the Lone Peak 8.
Oh interesting. That's good for others to know! What are you looking to try instead?
Well I’ll stick with the Lone Peak 8’s great shoes. Have a pair of Altra Vanish Tempo on order, for longer road-days. But the Eascalante 2,5 are awesome as well
Great review .good tip with insole was doing doing that with some of the speedgoats I've had really opens up the fit
Yeah! I have to do it with a lot of my shoes too. It's the one way we can customise the fit!
Where did you get the thinner insole from? Great review btw
Thanks a lot! I used some old Inov8 insoles I had hanging around. But you could use any others you may have hanging around. Otherwise if you're looking to buy some, I know Xero Shoes sell their insoles which around around 2-3mm thick. xeroshoes.com/shop/extras/replacement-insoles/