Australian GP is a really interesting type of street circuit in my opinion. It IS a street circuit but it delivers us such a interesting racing (sometimes)
I personally put Melbourne and Montreal in their own category of “parkland tracks” - a bit more forgiving than your typical “walls at the white line” street track, but still bearing the hallmarks of “the roads dictate the circuit, the circuit doesn’t dictate the tarmac”. And by the same token, some of the recent additions to the calendar (Miami, Jeddah) seem to be “street” tracks in name (and safety precautions) only; where the walls are close to give that added risk, but the layout is designed about (supposedly) producing good racing, not necessarily about using what is available to define the circuit. Contrast Baku; that design is basically “here’s where we can make space for the pits, the track has to go past the castle, you can’t take any buildings down, make it work” - and that last one, I think, is what separates this new style of “street” circuit from the Monaco, Singapore, etc street circuits.
Personally I feel part of the reason tracks like Singapore and Monaco are so popular (even tho they typical make for boring wheel to wheel action… especially Monaco) is because they’re hard to drive… Like it’s much more tense to drive on the limit at those tracks vs an actual race track with run off etc… But it looses that special touch if they’re just keep shoving it down our faces… especially when the cars are so big currently and it’s moral like watching a train rather than a competitive race for the drivers… I love tracks like Australia and Montreal bc they feel like a best of both worlds scenario… but too much street tracks definitely gets old for me… and I know when I was karting 99% of the competitors agreed that circuit racing was twice as fun as street racing… both to do and watch
Singapore GP gave them a real taste of the potential of setting a race at the heart of a major city, where literally everyone in the city, be it fans or not, could easily watch and get to experience something really unique and is usually very troublesome to participate (traditional track locations are usually quite remote).
I live in florida and attended the miami grand prix and I really dont understand the hate it gets, the fan experience is amazing and i got to take home a piece of logan sargeants car lol
Biggest problem with Miami (and Vegas) is in my opinion about celebrities that pretend they are interested in the sport. I was at Imola live and I also enjoyed my time even though it was one of the most boring races this season.
the track is bad, the racing is boring, the pricing is ridiculous AND last but not least - the USA has SO MANY great racing tracks and we get a stadium parking lot (AGAIN).... thanks for nothing US.
@@LiftandCoa The problem is that while the U.S does have a ton of great tracks even in my state of Florida such as Sebring and Daytona, The U.S only has four FIA grade one circuits, 3 of which are already on the F1 calendar.
But tbh both singapore and Las Vegas provide exciting races. I mean in Singapore, we can see proper racing where even having 3 Drs zones overtaking is difficult (2023 for example) and in Las Vegas wheel to wheel battles are very common which makes battles great especially from the back staright to the main straight.
AVUS in Berlin was only a permanent racetrack until 1940, when the straights became part of a motorway (now Bundesautobahn 115 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesautobahn_115 ). As a Grand Prix circuit, this was actually a street circuit
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There's the occasional good street circuit. Adelaide was good. Bathurst is essentially a street circuit, for example. But as a fan of grass roots motorsport, Street circuits aren't going to hold state level meetings. We need more actual tracks. But Good video. :)
Worst part is that only Monaco legitimately counts as an actual street circuit, and has ran it's first grand prix on (likely) roads which havent seen any enhancement prior.
As an f1 fan who lives in Vegas barely anyone was effected by the race beside business right on the strip aka the massive hotels but the prices to watch the race where just insane for me and my friend to watch it we had to spend a little under 2 grand for grand stand tickets not including food.
Saudi can stay. Australia HAS to stay. Miami can fuck off. Monaco. Canada has to stay. Azerbaijan can stay. Las Vegas can fuck off further than Miami. Chicago? wtf Osaka? Japan has so many other good racing-purpose tracks, why another street circuit? Incheon makes sense, even though they have a track used in 2013, but I've heard there's financial issues. No Madrid please, keep Catalunya. and BRING BACK SEPANG. Edit: Albert Park also needs to make its return as the calendar's starting race. I grew up watching Australia as the 1st race of the season, so Bahrain being first feels so strange.
I think it’s also partly the cars that are the problem. Istanbul was a sick track during the ‘00’s and ‘10’s but then the cars got wider and produced too much downforce and wake
bro what ar you talking about the #1 reason f1 does street circuits is because they make money from it not because it has better accessibility for fans. Also avus and that first austrian one are not purpose built tracks avus is on german highways and the austrian one is in an airfield.
Zeltweg was a street track, AVUS is classed as a road course (just like Silverstone is built on an old airfield - back in the day Silverstone still would have been used for planes). But watch the video and you will see my opinion at the end 😂
Tbh I hate miami, but the track is okay in my opinion. I just hate the artifical "hype" that F1 wants to create around that race. As a fan who is interested in racing and a close championship, I feel like the Miami F1 experience stands for everything that's wrong with F1 right now.
I think F1 shuold just stay away from street circuits. Keep monaco cuz its legendary and baku cuz the racing is good. The rest can leave and never come back. If i want to watch weird cars drive fast on city streets i watch FE. The racing is better and the cars have nearly the same laptimes. Dont get why f1 needs to compete with other racingseries.
my F1 street circuit ranking 1st Singapore looks beautiful at night with the changes better for racing 2nd Baku 2017 2018 2021 what must i say 3rd Jeddah my favourite circuit to drive and looks cool and dangerous and my farourite qualifying because i like night races more 4th Melbourne didn't like at first but since the changes it's underated 5th Las Vegas Las Vagas was a banger of a race 6th Monaco cant stand monaco in the race but like it in qualifying so thats a possitiv Now the ones i think are garbage Mexico BORING worst Miami GET IN THE BIN wishlist somewhere in Switzerland mabye bern mabye bring Bremgarten back Zurich, Geneva or Basel Yes im Swiss 🇨🇭
@@CV19_YT yeah that’s alright a lot of people think it’s a street circuit for some reason. I think it’s because of the tight barriers and lack of runoff
0:12 or one or two Hyperspeedways thanks to me hahaha no seriously i want to build the nantahala Hyperspeedway and the fort peck Hyperspeedway look It Up its on wikipedia before its deleted by an absolute moron because i dont end Up in digital jail because its only a prediction!!!
He had us in the first half, not gonna lie
Hehe iykyk 😉
Who let Germany cook with that Avus track 🔥🔥
Right?! Banger 🗣️
You might not like the answer to this…
Bro u cant hate the Automobilverkehrs und Übungsstrasse. The long corner was more angled than old monza... and dtm on this shit was wild.
@@Ezmyi Seems like a btec nascar track 💤💤
It also has 43° of banking in turn 3.
Australian GP is a really interesting type of street circuit in my opinion. It IS a street circuit but it delivers us such a interesting racing (sometimes)
True. It’s one of my favourite tracks on the sim
I personally put Melbourne and Montreal in their own category of “parkland tracks” - a bit more forgiving than your typical “walls at the white line” street track, but still bearing the hallmarks of “the roads dictate the circuit, the circuit doesn’t dictate the tarmac”. And by the same token, some of the recent additions to the calendar (Miami, Jeddah) seem to be “street” tracks in name (and safety precautions) only; where the walls are close to give that added risk, but the layout is designed about (supposedly) producing good racing, not necessarily about using what is available to define the circuit. Contrast Baku; that design is basically “here’s where we can make space for the pits, the track has to go past the castle, you can’t take any buildings down, make it work” - and that last one, I think, is what separates this new style of “street” circuit from the Monaco, Singapore, etc street circuits.
@@DragRedSim EXACTLY!
I live in Adelaide and I want the f1’s back here
@@Dragon_Vids3 stick to your churches mate
Personally I feel part of the reason tracks like Singapore and Monaco are so popular (even tho they typical make for boring wheel to wheel action… especially Monaco)
is because they’re hard to drive…
Like it’s much more tense to drive on the limit at those tracks vs an actual race track with run off etc…
But it looses that special touch if they’re just keep shoving it down our faces… especially when the cars are so big currently and it’s moral like watching a train rather than a competitive race for the drivers…
I love tracks like Australia and Montreal bc they feel like a best of both worlds scenario… but too much street tracks definitely gets old for me… and I know when I was karting 99% of the competitors agreed that circuit racing was twice as fun as street racing… both to do and watch
Singapore GP gave them a real taste of the potential of setting a race at the heart of a major city, where literally everyone in the city, be it fans or not, could easily watch and get to experience something really unique and is usually very troublesome to participate (traditional track locations are usually quite remote).
I live in florida and attended the miami grand prix and I really dont understand the hate it gets, the fan experience is amazing and i got to take home a piece of logan sargeants car lol
Haha fair enough. I don’t like the circuit - the off-track events I think are great for the fans but a lot of people dont like either 🤷🏻♂️
Biggest problem with Miami (and Vegas) is in my opinion about celebrities that pretend they are interested in the sport. I was at Imola live and I also enjoyed my time even though it was one of the most boring races this season.
the track is bad, the racing is boring, the pricing is ridiculous AND last but not least - the USA has SO MANY great racing tracks and we get a stadium parking lot (AGAIN).... thanks for nothing US.
@@LiftandCoa The problem is that while the U.S does have a ton of great tracks even in my state of Florida such as Sebring and Daytona, The U.S only has four FIA grade one circuits, 3 of which are already on the F1 calendar.
Albon is going to need that back.
1:20 Nah the crash gate lol
Hehehe
But tbh both singapore and Las Vegas provide exciting races. I mean in Singapore, we can see proper racing where even having 3 Drs zones overtaking is difficult (2023 for example) and in Las Vegas wheel to wheel battles are very common which makes battles great especially from the back staright to the main straight.
i dont even count miami as a street circuit its a parking lot circuit
New category unlocked lol 🔓
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Haha thanks bro. We going to the moon 🚀
AVUS in Berlin was only a permanent racetrack until 1940, when the straights became part of a motorway (now Bundesautobahn 115 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesautobahn_115 ). As a Grand Prix circuit, this was actually a street circuit
For trackside marshals a plus for street circuits is having cars less than a metre away at racing speed 😁 (e.g. back "straight" at Melbourne)
How do you only have 4K subs, this channel is fantastic and deserves more
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There's the occasional good street circuit. Adelaide was good. Bathurst is essentially a street circuit, for example. But as a fan of grass roots motorsport, Street circuits aren't going to hold state level meetings. We need more actual tracks. But Good video. :)
Another banger from the man himslef 🔥🔥🔥
Hahahaha.
Worst part is that only Monaco legitimately counts as an actual street circuit, and has ran it's first grand prix on (likely) roads which havent seen any enhancement prior.
Isn’t Baku completely based on the streets?
Castle section wasnt originally asphalt road
As an f1 fan who lives in Vegas barely anyone was effected by the race beside business right on the strip aka the massive hotels but the prices to watch the race where just insane for me and my friend to watch it we had to spend a little under 2 grand for grand stand tickets not including food.
That’s good to hear but it’s still terrible for the businesses that were effected. It cost the locals millions still
also street circuits do create an inconvenience to the people of the city, especially with Monaco's circuit taking up like half of the roads
I’d like to visit Baku. How would you layout a London street circuit if there was one?
Baku is great from what I’ve heard. That’s a great question - maybe a video idea for the future… 😉
@@jakemorganGP live video discussion with google maps?
I’ve got some different ideas for live stream shows - I think creating tracks would be better suited for video formats 🙌🏼🙌🏼
They had plans on doing one, but never happened… ruclips.net/video/v1Y3vYK77XI/видео.htmlsi=7Feif9AwL9lbTav4
Saudi can stay.
Australia HAS to stay.
Miami can fuck off.
Monaco.
Canada has to stay.
Azerbaijan can stay.
Las Vegas can fuck off further than Miami.
Chicago? wtf
Osaka? Japan has so many other good racing-purpose tracks, why another street circuit?
Incheon makes sense, even though they have a track used in 2013, but I've heard there's financial issues.
No Madrid please, keep Catalunya.
and BRING BACK SEPANG.
Edit: Albert Park also needs to make its return as the calendar's starting race. I grew up watching Australia as the 1st race of the season, so Bahrain being first feels so strange.
probably another factor is that tilkedrome tracks are so mid its waste of time racing there
I think it’s also partly the cars that are the problem. Istanbul was a sick track during the ‘00’s and ‘10’s but then the cars got wider and produced too much downforce and wake
Why don't t
hey use Galvanized Square steel to expand the tracks especially Monaco
GALVANIZED SQUARE STEEL METIONED, WHAT THE FUCK IS A NORMAL SIZED HOME 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Monaco Melbourne and singapore are iconic it they have too stay las vegas Baku and saudi are really good imo miami is ass it has to go
The Miami track is just not it
Its not the track that makes great races it is the drivers the people behind the steering wheel that make racing exciting.
Answer this for me why is IMSA races are mostly held in street circuit but in WEC is not
Brotha, u tricked us in the first part
Hehe
0:36 mom can we have monza at home
We already have monza at home
Monza at home:
😭😭
0:11 I doubt F1 is actually going to Chicago.
Isn't Zeiltweig is basically old Silverstone without corners
atleast dj khaled spoke hahahaha
The man of the people
(Another one)
More teams joining?
Audi confirmed - Andretti will get in but in 2028 not 2026, and Hitech (Mazepin’s dad) want to join
How F1 gets street tracks
FIA: “So how many-“
F1: “YES!”
FIA: “But I didn’t say-“
F1: “DID I STUTTER?!”
bro what ar you talking about the #1 reason f1 does street circuits is because they make money from it not because it has better accessibility for fans. Also avus and that first austrian one are not purpose built tracks avus is on german highways and the austrian one is in an airfield.
Zeltweg was a street track, AVUS is classed as a road course (just like Silverstone is built on an old airfield - back in the day Silverstone still would have been used for planes). But watch the video and you will see my opinion at the end 😂
Wait 'til he sees Norisring
Pretty sure the Chicago track isn't happening lmao
Thank goodness for that 😅
At the pitstops they'll leave the cars on cinderblocks and run away with the wheels
@@stargazer2312 Nah that's Detroit and East St. Louis
Tbh I hate miami, but the track is okay in my opinion. I just hate the artifical "hype" that F1 wants to create around that race. As a fan who is interested in racing and a close championship, I feel like the Miami F1 experience stands for everything that's wrong with F1 right now.
THE answer is……. MONEY
I think F1 shuold just stay away from street circuits. Keep monaco cuz its legendary and baku cuz the racing is good. The rest can leave and never come back. If i want to watch weird cars drive fast on city streets i watch FE. The racing is better and the cars have nearly the same laptimes. Dont get why f1 needs to compete with other racingseries.
Here’s the thing, Miami is a glorified parking lot
EVERYBODY. LISTEN TO THE DUCK 🦆🗣️
Monaco is more than enough!!!!!
Kanye north?
my F1 street circuit ranking
1st Singapore looks beautiful at night with the changes better for racing
2nd Baku 2017 2018 2021 what must i say
3rd Jeddah my favourite circuit to drive and looks cool and dangerous and my farourite qualifying because i like night races more
4th Melbourne didn't like at first but since the changes it's underated
5th Las Vegas Las Vagas was a banger of a race
6th Monaco cant stand monaco in the race but like it in qualifying so thats a possitiv
Now the ones i think are garbage
Mexico BORING
worst Miami GET IN THE BIN
wishlist somewhere in Switzerland mabye bern mabye bring Bremgarten back Zurich, Geneva or Basel
Yes im Swiss 🇨🇭
as someone from Montreal I can assure you it is not a street circuit. It is on an island close to the actual city but completely separate
@@F1ThePitlane ok sorry i wasnt sure
@@CV19_YT yeah that’s alright a lot of people think it’s a street circuit for some reason. I think it’s because of the tight barriers and lack of runoff
@@F1ThePitlane I deleted the Canada text
chicago wont work for f1, the streets of chicago is way too bumpy (take a look at nascars race there) and well... its chigago
0:13
Another new one in Spain? No, just bring back the Valencia Street Circuit if we're gonna do that.
0:12 or one or two Hyperspeedways thanks to me hahaha no seriously i want to build the nantahala Hyperspeedway and the fort peck Hyperspeedway look It Up its on wikipedia before its deleted by an absolute moron because i dont end Up in digital jail because its only a prediction!!!
No more Brundle.
I love Brundle tho 😭
Miami is 100 times better than Monaco!