Queen Elizabeth I’s Suitors & Lovers, 1/2: Proposing to a Princess

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  • Опубликовано: 23 янв 2023
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    Elizabeth I of England and Ireland reigned for 45 years over a golden age of peace, prosperity and flourishing art and culture. And she shocked the medieval world by doing it all without a man. But that certainly wasn’t for lack of proposals. Elizabeth had at least 16 suitors in her lifetime. In her youth men were eager to take advantage of her and their ambitions landed Elizabeth in the tower of London. But when she was Queen, Elizabeth turned the table on the many men eager to win her hand. She played them against each other and dangled herself as a prize they could never quite win. Over this 2 part series we’ll meet the English Lords and European royals who pursued her majesty, and the one man she truly loved through it all. And examine that age old question, was the virgin Queen really a virgin?
    Part 1: Proposing to a Princess:
    Charles de Valois, Duke of Angoulme & Orléans
    Adolf, Prince of Denmark & Duke of Holstein-Gottorp
    Thomas Seymour, Baron of Sudeley
    Edward Courtenay, Earl of Devon
    Emmanuel Philibert, Duke of Savoy
    Carlos, Prince of Asturias
    Robert Dudley, Earl of Leicester
    Philip II, King of Spain
    Part 2: Courting an Queen:
    Henry Fitzalan, Earl of Arundel
    Sir William Pickering
    James Hamilton, Earl of Arran
    Eric XIV, King of Sweden
    Frederick II, King of Denmark & Norway
    Henri III, King of France, King of Poland & Grand Duke of Lithuania
    Charles II, Archduke of Austria
    François, Duke of Anjou
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Комментарии • 273

  • @avaglennon9873
    @avaglennon9873 Год назад +899

    I’ve always thought it’s ironic that the Church of England frowned on divorce when it was literally created because Henry wanted to divorce his wife. Can’t wait for Part 2 of this series!

    • @Laramaria2
      @Laramaria2 Год назад +25

      Same. 🤭

    • @cakt1991
      @cakt1991 Год назад +117

      What Henry wanted (or at least professsed publicly) was an acknowledgment that the marriage to Catherine of Aragon was invalid, due to her prior marriage to his brother. A divorce would still acknowledge the marriage had occurred. Once the Church of England was established, he had his marriage to Catherine *annulled*, indicating it never happened. He even ordered that Catherine be addressed as Dowager Princess of Wales, in acknowledgment of her prior marriage to his deceased elder brother. The eventual Mary I also had her status as Princess removed to indicate that she was born in an illegal marriage. Interestingly, people don’t talk about how, in addition to the two so-called “divorced” wives, he also annulled his respective marriages to Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard before each was executed. So, in legal terms, from his perspective, he had only two wives: his “beloved” Jane Seymour, who gave him a son, and Catherine Parr.

    • @jshipp5469
      @jshipp5469 Год назад +18

      @@cakt1991 never looked at it that way. But the core issue was always everyone is laid with never truly gave him and heir. So he had to figure a way to get out of that.

    • @3katfox
      @3katfox Год назад +11

      Right??? The whole insanity with princess Margaret just blew my mind!!

    • @puclopuclik4108
      @puclopuclik4108 Год назад +13

      @@cakt1991 this was just excuse. Noone had problem when they got married, and he didn't have problem to father her children.
      He just needed heir, and Katherine was on the end of her reproductive age.

  • @yourmammu
    @yourmammu Год назад +240

    "I'd rather be a beggar and single than to be a queen and married"
    Badass

  • @burgermeowster
    @burgermeowster Год назад +675

    Calling Thomas Elizabeth's suitor and not abuser is definitely a take.

    • @lifewithmads9713
      @lifewithmads9713 Год назад +44

      Also she got the ages wrong when he died

    • @wyattbutler1147
      @wyattbutler1147 Год назад +13

      Yea I thought this too

    • @annwilliams6438
      @annwilliams6438 Год назад +95

      There is only so long a title can be. ;) He was a suitor, in that he hoped to marry her if/when his wife died. He was a pretty nasty piece of work and a real chancer….

    • @yeyosilver7067
      @yeyosilver7067 Год назад +17

      That kind of behavior was accepted back then

    • @yeyosilver7067
      @yeyosilver7067 Год назад

      It only became a scandal because she was the daughter of a king and everyone knows about the mafia behind

  • @Kerriangel
    @Kerriangel Год назад +333

    Welcome back to The Tudor Bachelor; today we have a very special guest. The daughter of King Henry VIII, Princess Elizabeth. Now Elizabeth, we have chosen suitors from across Europe so lets meet them.
    Bachelor Number 1: He's the son of King Francis I, he's handsome, funny but lacks that ever so essential common sense. Keep him out of plague houses.
    Bachelor Number 2: He's the Prince of Denmark and thankfully, his name isn't Hamlet. There's a lot of Protestant Potential here so get him while you can.
    Bachelor Number 3: A 16th Century Prince Andrew. Best to avoid.
    Bachelor Number 4: The Duke of Devon. He is the head of the House of York and his father did rebel against your father but hey, at least he's not Spanish.
    Bachelor Number 5: He's your childhood friend and the son of the Duke of Northumberland. Does manipulation and a desire for the throne run in the family? We shall see.
    Bachelor Number 6: The Duke of Savoy; kinda useless but has links to the Hapsburgs.
    Bachelor Number 7: He's your brother in law's kid, so would that be a nephew? Probably. Again, these Hapsburgs, they'll inbreed themselves to death because let's be honest, only a Hapsburg can love that chin.
    Bachelor Number 8: Well if you don't want the son? Why not try the father? I mean, your whole existence is due to your father marrying his dead brother's wife and divorcing her, so why not continue the tradition? Marry your dead sister's husband, what's the worst that could happen?

  • @hjiftdy12
    @hjiftdy12 Год назад +55

    All I have to say to the French Prince that died b/c he had a pillow fight in a plague house is: “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes”

  • @BP-cg1ko
    @BP-cg1ko Год назад +93

    Fun fact; Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard were first cousins and Jane Seymour was their second cousin

    • @gennaronarducci1333
      @gennaronarducci1333 Год назад +11

      So Edward was both Elizabeth's half brother and cousin?

    • @YurMommy
      @YurMommy Год назад +5

      Wtf

    • @firefly5934
      @firefly5934 Год назад +10

      That's the British aristocracy for you

    • @tapeshsharma9254
      @tapeshsharma9254 3 месяца назад

      @@gennaronarducci1333 Habsburgs: allow us to introduce ourselves

    • @kattriella1331
      @kattriella1331 Месяц назад

      Talk about keeping it in the family.

  • @alexandrazisk7091
    @alexandrazisk7091 Год назад +430

    Ideas for future videos:
    Katherine Swynford (mistress and later wife of John of Gaunt)
    History of Royal baby names
    Blanche of Castile
    Youngest queen consorts of the UK
    Egyptian pharaohs
    A history of revolutions
    Longest living monarchs in history
    Founders of every modern royal house

    • @williethomas5116
      @williethomas5116 Год назад +8

      Isabella of Castile, Duchess of York
      Constance of Castile.
      So much is made of the brother John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster and Edmund of Langley the Duke of York.
      In an alliance with Spain (Castile) the two brother married sisters Constance and Isabella.
      John tried to claim the Castilian crown by right of wife and Isabella was apparently banging other royal suitors.

    • @pdiddyyyy5629
      @pdiddyyyy5629 Год назад +8

      I would love a video on Egyptian Pharaohs 🙏🏽

    • @rabidheartbeats5953
      @rabidheartbeats5953 Год назад +5

      i'd love a video on the daughters of Isabella of Castille. and then on the daughters of Joanna.

    • @williethomas5116
      @williethomas5116 Год назад +1

      ​@@rabidheartbeats5953 Oh, yeah that Isabella too!!

    • @rowennoonan6716
      @rowennoonan6716 Год назад +1

      I’m pretty sure she already done one about the longest reigning monarchs

  • @lucypreece7581
    @lucypreece7581 Год назад +114

    One of my fave Queen Elizabeth I quotes is "I may have the body of a weak and feeble woman but I have the heart and stomach of a king" Love it.
    Also did you know she had a weird rule about purple clothing. During the reign the dye used to make purple clothes was very expensive so she made a rule whereby only those of certain ranks of nobility and royalty could wear purple and those of whom she considered a lower rank were fined if they were seen wearing purple. That is how Purple came to be associated with royalty and nobility even after it became more affordable and widely available.

    • @Bluemoonofky
      @Bluemoonofky Год назад +10

      Its not an alleged quote, it's a well documented, well known factually and historically accurate quote

    • @jillianwatson9728
      @jillianwatson9728 Год назад

      that quote was actually not by her, it was written at least 40 years after her death by a man

    • @Bluemoonofky
      @Bluemoonofky Год назад +2

      @@jillianwatson9728 it was ABSOLUTELY said by her at the Spanish Armada victory. Sorry

  • @Vic35102
    @Vic35102 Год назад +57

    Elizabeth Was very intelligent she was described as a polyglot which means she knows a few languages around 20 languages and used to be able to translate from each language into another language with incredible ease and felt she used to do that for enjoyment Elizabeth It's a big heroin of mine I've got a large poster of her in my flat It makes me smile at a woman to know uk's greatest monarchs have been Women
    I know I have the weak frame of a woman but I have a heart king

  • @Faerygoddessofwar
    @Faerygoddessofwar Год назад +124

    Queen Elizabeth took a DNA test and determined that she was infact, THAT bitch, and could rule England with no husband 👸 that's my Queen! She really wasn't given any good examples of marriage either. Lol I love how detailed and clear your videos are. Love watching them

  • @jocelynw6405
    @jocelynw6405 Год назад +148

    If only our history teachers at school spilled the hot tea & juicy gossip such as these, everyone would be history nuts! Thanks Lindsay for today's lesson!
    Ps: *to Thomas Seymour* : "Baron Seymour, step away from the underage princess!" Little wonder why Queen E the I refused to walk down the altar into marriage after that incident & her dad's fiasco. Queen Elizabeth I: A queen in a chessboard never gives into others, especially pawns.

    • @doreensika837
      @doreensika837 Год назад +11

      I mean to think, she was so bad ass. For a woman to not marry at that time was unheard of. She was the literally the first. I don’t know why that makes me so proud.

    • @LadyCoyKoi
      @LadyCoyKoi Год назад

      Blame that (History not talking about the spilled tea and hot gossip) on your cheap @$$ communities allowing politicians and corporations to sponsor and funding the education system.
      The education system of the past taught only what the community wanted and the community made sure of that through sponsoring and funding their local schools to keep the education system under the power of the communities the schools are in.
      Once the communities focus more on selfish spending on stupid cars, trucks and boats... focusing more on superficial BS... leaving schools at the mercy of corporations and politicians, thus subjects like Science, Social Studies, Arts, ,etc became boring and more focus on State Core Standards and passing the test, thus teachers are forced to teach based on corporate made tests and follow political BS lessons.
      You want school to be fun again/.... stop spending your money on stupid sh!T!!!! Use that extra income to support programs you actually want to see in schools, and if you get more families to join you, you and your community would free teachers and staff members of the education system from corporate and political tyranny, thus future students will have awesome and interesting subjects and lessons. Unfortunately, selfish retards will continue to spend money on superficial BS rather than support local schools who are at the mercy of being relevant due to lack of funds and sponsorship that would provide the supplies, textbooks, documentaries and other needed things to support good programs people actually want.

  • @irawilliams343
    @irawilliams343 Год назад +32

    Robert Dudley was without a doubt Elizabeth I's greatest love. Sadly, marrying him would mean repeating her older half-sister Mary I's mistake. I can only imagine how lonely she was. It was the price she had to pay to become a great ruler who would pave the way for the British Empire.

  • @Astro-uc1pi
    @Astro-uc1pi Год назад +120

    Hey Lindsay can you do a series/episode on the Grey sisters. Their stories are so fascinating to me!

  • @rilianelucifen876
    @rilianelucifen876 Год назад +57

    God I'd love an episode on the husbands of the queens regnant of England (Geoffrey of Anjou, Guildford Dudley, Philip of Spain, William III, George of Denmark, Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, and Prince Philip). Their positions and stories are all so varied (two teenage grooms who never quite made it two the throne, two kings in their own right who both invaded England with varying degrees of success, and three princes who made peace with taking a backseat to their wives in politics but maintained control in the home) and it's an interesting way of tracking the development of female monarchical power.

    • @aceofspades8634
      @aceofspades8634 Год назад +1

      She already made a whole series about the Consorts (both male and female) of the monarchs of England. The men you mentioned above are all included there :)

  • @antoinebishop1989
    @antoinebishop1989 Год назад +40

    I have always loved Queen Elizabeth1,her courage, grace, goodwill and kindness is so endearing even centuries after her death.

    • @murph8837
      @murph8837 Год назад +3

      What fairytale books have you been reading? She was none of those qualities and if she was she would not have been Queen for as long as she did.

    • @antoinebishop1989
      @antoinebishop1989 Год назад +2

      @@murph8837 Everyone knows Elizabeth had these qualities, do not come after me because you do not know royals

    • @KawaiiStars
      @KawaiiStars Год назад

      ​@@antoinebishop1989 she let her friend's baby die because of jealousy

    • @susanmorgan8833
      @susanmorgan8833 8 месяцев назад

      @@murph8837 How can you say QE II did not have courage or grace!!! And while she knew how to be a strong ruler, she also knew when to display goodwill or kindness. She was very much loved by her people, and showing goodwill and kindness in no way lessened the effect of her strength as monarch. She was also not above using feminine wiles to get men to do her bidding. She did, in fact, excel at that. Why do you think she was so successful?

  • @MrAdryan1603
    @MrAdryan1603 10 месяцев назад +8

    I LOVE how you give little 2- second details about other historical figures when you introduce them and I end up watching several other biography videos because of it. Something about your voice allows me to be able to enjoy your videos back to back to back and that's hard to find! Cheers, thx 🙂

  • @megandrynan6080
    @megandrynan6080 Год назад +23

    How tall was Elizabeth? In her portraits she always appears tall and so regal, almost an ethereal look. It would have been amazing to see her in person. Definitely one of the most remarkable women in history.

    • @in00n
      @in00n Год назад +7

      She was 5’4

    • @megandrynan6080
      @megandrynan6080 Год назад +7

      @@in00n oh wow, I expected her to be quite a bit taller! I read that Mary Queen of Scots was quite tall.

    • @annarae2396
      @annarae2396 Год назад +4

      @@megandrynan6080 that actually was probably above average in that day. I am 5'4 and always felt short until I moved to Italy.

    • @uggggggghhhhh
      @uggggggghhhhh 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@megandrynan6080Yes, Mary was almost 6ft. Elizabeth talked about her being the ideal height and said Mary is "too tall" like the pick-me she is when she was told Mary was taller than her.

  • @christigoth
    @christigoth 10 месяцев назад +8

    Elizabeth is just like so many women nowadays who vow not to marry and just have kids out of wedlock. because they saw too much wife abuse at home, growing up, and that sort of thing.

  • @iLoveHistory1703
    @iLoveHistory1703 Год назад +25

    Lindsay! You are incredible. you are the reason why i wanted to start my own personal history youtube channel. You are a fantastic narrator and i admire how throughly you research everything you create videos on. Thank you for this video!

  • @Laramaria2
    @Laramaria2 Год назад +18

    Elizabeth * exists *
    Mary: TO THE TOWER!

    • @lfgifu296
      @lfgifu296 Год назад +2

      To be fair, Elizabeth did likely take part in at least one of the plots to depose Mary. She wasn’t the innocent sheep.

  • @sarahd.5244
    @sarahd.5244 Год назад +10

    Considering she grew up knowing her father had her mother executed, and later was only a few years younger than Catherine Howard when Henry had her executed as well ... idk, I'm sure Elizabeth enjoyed some courtly flirting and dancing but risking anything that would result in a baby, or getting married to a man who would have absolute power over her, has never sat well with me. People are so obsessed with questioning her Virgin Queen status, but looking at her upbringing I don't doubt it. As a teenager she even saw what happened to a powerful, experienced, highly intelligent woman like Catherine Parr when she was married to violent, cruel men: Henry and later Thomas. Catherine was in love with Thomas and look how he turned out, a creep preying on her niece right in front of her! For all Robert Dudley was charming, Elizabeth probably thought "if we did get married that could change." Especially when those rumors of his murdering his wife surfaced.

  • @agatha6999
    @agatha6999 Год назад +19

    I have to wonder how different history would’ve been if Elizabeth married Robert Dudley and had heirs with him

  • @Obihann
    @Obihann Год назад +57

    You said Henry VIII's son became Henry VI, you meant to say Edward VI (around 6:32).

    • @grtlyblesd
      @grtlyblesd Год назад +5

      I had to go back and hear that a second time. “Wait, what?” Lil blooper. 6:32

    • @annarae2396
      @annarae2396 Год назад +2

      Yes, stopped me in my tracks, what did I just hear? Yes she said Edward, son of Henry VIII became Henry VI.

  • @alissapyrich1891
    @alissapyrich1891 Год назад +43

    I know you are making this for a general audience, but Elizabeth I isn't "medieval.". Her era is Renaissance or Early Modern. It would be great to educate more people on the difference. Just my two cents. Still love your videos

    • @megandrynan6080
      @megandrynan6080 Год назад +12

      The Tudor period could almost be considered an era of its own, somewhere between medieval and Early Modern.

  • @soulfoodsmama2980
    @soulfoodsmama2980 Год назад +14

    Robert Dudley has always given me Scott Peterson vibes, honestly 💅🏽

    • @bbybella9937
      @bbybella9937 Год назад

      Why?

    • @min-na4707
      @min-na4707 Год назад +2

      Omg ikkk

    • @susanmorgan8833
      @susanmorgan8833 8 месяцев назад +1

      Scott Peterson is beyond scum, and I can not see Robert Dudley killing a wife who is almost ready to give birth to his child. I can not even see him as culpable in the death of Amy Robsart. He would have to know that such a questionable death would ruin any chance of marriage with Elizabeth.

  • @misabelrodriguez1163
    @misabelrodriguez1163 Год назад +17

    Hi Lindsay, can we get more Suitors and Lovers videos?

  • @Rogerramjet4321
    @Rogerramjet4321 Год назад +6

    I wish my history classes in high school had been this interesting.

  • @Chipoo88
    @Chipoo88 Год назад +21

    Thanks for this. Queen Jane was not immediately executed. She was given several months to recant and was only executed after her father raised another rebellion to depose Mary. Mary came to the throne with an attitude of forgiveness and not wanting bloodshed. The marriage of Mary and Philip- Philip was not King as in he could not make decisions on his own. Mary and parliament had made provision for this. Re: the burnings, Mary only worked within the law of that day and burnings were considered a cleaning of the soul back then. The prisoners were given an opportunity to recant. She didn’t behave any differently to any monarch of her time. Philip didn’t abandoned Mary. He still had several responsibilities overseas on his lands and wars to deal with. It’s sad that Elizabeth didn’t even try to have an heir. It was her sole responsibility to keep the dynasty going and basically ended it

    • @murph8837
      @murph8837 Год назад +5

      Mary knew full well that Jane was just a pawn and that she had no desire to be Queen. Though she was found guilty her sentence of death was dismissed. Only when the rebellion and the Spanish threatening to call off the marriage did she begrudgingly agree to Jane's execution. I always viewed Mary as a rather tragic figure than a villian.

    • @susanmorgan8833
      @susanmorgan8833 8 месяцев назад +1

      Mary never wanted to execute Jane as she realized Jane had basically been no more than a helpless pawn. When negotiating her marriage to Philip, the Spanish started complaining about the fact that the individual that had been proposed for the throne (Jane) was still alive, and this apparently constituted a danger to Philip. That was when Jane and Guildeford went to the block.

    • @Chipoo88
      @Chipoo88 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@susanmorgan8833 what is your source for this interesting detail?

  • @robinhumphrey2692
    @robinhumphrey2692 Год назад +6

    Good work!! Looking forward to part 2! Thanks, Lindsey!

  • @llouie4999
    @llouie4999 Год назад +10

    Great video! Always enjoy learning more about the different figures. I appreciate videos such as yours that avoid unnecessarily vilifying (Mary I, Elizabeth I, and more were all doing what they could with the situations dealt to them, we can honor their savvy moves while acknowledging their less generous decisions alike). Totally appreciate too when your videos note gross power differences (i.e. I have no idea why but some sources somehow romanticize what T. Seymour was doing!! :

  • @anubratabit3027
    @anubratabit3027 Год назад +6

    Philip defended Elizabeth from Mary because he knew that after Elizabeth, it was Mary Queen of Scots in line of succession. Although a Catholic, she was at that time living in France having being betrothed to the heir apparent of King Henry II of France. So Philip knew that if Mary died after executing Elizabeth, the entire British Isles (Scotland was already ruled by Mary's French mother Mary of Guise acting as her regent & had a declared alliance with France) & Ireland would enter under French sphere of influence, which would be nothing short of a diplomatic disaster for Spain (French claims over the Duchy of Milan & Kingdom of Naples had already lead into the ongoing Italian wars & the British Isles under their thumb might give them ideas to reconquer the Netherlands that the Hapsburgs had obtained as descendants of Mary of Burgundy, a direct descendant of the Valois kings or interfere into the Papacy like Philip IV of France did, leading to another schism like the Avignon Papacy in midst of the Protestant Reformation) & the Holy Roman Empire (Francis I had made an informal alliance with Ottoman Sultan Sulayman the Magnificient in order to keep HRE Charles V in check, which was maintained by Henry II). Philip knew that he wouldn't be siring any children from Mary & Mary was too zealous to foreshadow the consequences of executing Elizabeth at that time. No wonder why Philip is also known as Philip the Prudent. However, Philip farsightedness in protecting Elizabeth was of no avail. A year into Elizabeth's reign, the Italian wars ended leaving Spain in a superior position. The next year, Mary Queen of Scots was widowed & she returned back to Scotland. In 1562 France slided into civil war between Protestants & Catholics. Philip scored a decisive victory against the Turks at Lepanto in 1571 & he inherited Portugal in 1578. All of this & a host of other factors culminated into a drastic reversal by 1588.

  • @Palaa94
    @Palaa94 Год назад +1

    Literally the video I’ve been waiting for forever

  • @TheLizKirkland
    @TheLizKirkland Год назад +4

    Elizabeth I: Will you accept this rose?

  • @CoffeeLover-mz7bk
    @CoffeeLover-mz7bk Год назад +6

    Elizabeth was a Renaissance Queen, and not a medieval Queen.

  • @cyrilmarasigan7108
    @cyrilmarasigan7108 Год назад +7

    Can you do suitors of Queen Victoria of UK she had many suitors including Tsar Alexander II of Russia that she almost married due to them liking each other but their place in society prevent it but wonder if they married then Russia and UK combined two countries.

  • @Vee.011
    @Vee.011 Год назад +5

    "Elizabeth's little brother became Henry the sixth" got me dying man

    • @susanmorgan8833
      @susanmorgan8833 8 месяцев назад

      These little glitches are fairly frequent, but I try to resist correcting them, as eventually I would just be considered some sort of nag.

  • @jennifervillanueva8453
    @jennifervillanueva8453 Год назад +3

    I can't wait until next part!! 😍😊

  • @PerfectlyImperfect93
    @PerfectlyImperfect93 Год назад +6

    Thank you Lindsay!❤

  • @HORSEYANIME2024
    @HORSEYANIME2024 Год назад +3

    Hope to see a part 2 of this video

  • @katinamcguirk9639
    @katinamcguirk9639 11 месяцев назад +1

    I think the most amusing one was The Duke of Anjou.
    Some of them were just down right insulting.

  • @LeahWalentosky
    @LeahWalentosky Год назад +7

    Catherine Howard would have been close to Elizabeth’s age. She also saw strong and confident Catherine Parr become manipulated and abuse because of her husbands influence

  • @bedazzledmisery6969
    @bedazzledmisery6969 Год назад +4

    Divorce? ABSOLUTELY REPREHENSIBLE!!
    A crap load of lovers/affairs?
    Eehhhh, I mean, YOLO right?
    Smh. As Simon Whistler loves to say, "The past was the worst!"

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 Год назад +2

      Marriage was the primary method of diplomacy between nations and ending a marriage that has produced children was akin to backing out of NATO back then

  • @liselmovies8104
    @liselmovies8104 Год назад +2

    I wonder if you'd ever do a video on the queens of Belgium, it would be great!

  • @Anirandom1214
    @Anirandom1214 Год назад +4

    Honestly there's probably a way you could ride the 'oh Harry just came out with Spare' wave without too much backlash...
    A history on the inhabitants of Frogmore Cottage
    The Highs and Lows of Louis Mountbatten (THEY called him a Dick first) because uh *stares at the debacle of the Partition of India... and then how he went out* that's a HELL of a story.
    For a non European royalty video I'd honestly LOVE to see an in depth video on the Pahlavis

  • @pellelindbergh4455
    @pellelindbergh4455 Год назад +1

    two vids in one weeek! must be my birthday

  • @yansim_akademi5004
    @yansim_akademi5004 Год назад

    I love your videos. I hope you do a video on who was said to be the most fairest queen/princess and most handsome king/prince. That would spark my interest and curiosity.😅

  • @walmo3929
    @walmo3929 Год назад +4

    part 2 of my family's story!
    (also I'll be focusing on albert as he's my great grandpa.)
    albert was extremely upset,he didn't really know how to deal with this. he was tooken to the boarding school that was in cornwall, he had somewhat of a good time,but hated studying. one night in when 1959,him and his friends sneaked out,he met a fine young girl called clarissa banks. they took things extremely quickly,and within one night,they had done something which changed his life forever. after 2 months of seeing eachother everyday,she found out she was pregnant. this was a shock,albert had only 1 month left of his boarding school and didn't know what to do. clarissa had to hide this from her family but was shocked that this was all happening so suddenly. after 4 months of being pregnant,she told her family and they said they had to either get married or they would disown her. clarissa wanted to get married but albert didn't. clarissa grew up in an abusive household where her step father sa'd her and ra**d. her. she decided it wasn't worth it and ran away,she was disowned shortly after. together. albert went to london with clarissa and the 2 told his parents. they were furious and wanted nothing to do with him,but marigold,his favourite aunt(diana canterbury)and his half siblings wanted to help. he moved in with his eldest sister,maria. his closest sibling. at the time,maria was 23 and married to a 25 year old lawyer named robert anderson. they had 2 kids,a 2 year old boy named alexander and a new born boy called samuel. robert was skeptical of helping albert and clarissa but was convinced by his wife to help. they had their baby,a girl who they named elisabeth,a mix of elizabeth the queen mother and elisa,albert's mother. the queen mother met elisabeth and adored her,and put her in the best daycare in london. life was somewhat normal,at 21,the 2 got married and albert had an ok job. however,he went to a law school till he was 25 and soon also got a job as a lawyer. clarissa finally got pregnant again and they moved out to the adelaide cottage,his childhood house. they lived their till 1975,and they once again moved to a beautiful estate. elisabeth was very close with her aunt marigold but her favourite was maria. but she got heart disease,something that ran in the family and caused her to die in 1978. im actually named after her,my grandma always talks about her. in 1977 however elisabeth applied to go university. she went to the university of cambridge and had many boyfriends. but she met the love of her life in 1980,my grandpa mansour ahmed,they got engaged in 1983,and she got pregantnt in 1984.

  • @simrenbajaj6000
    @simrenbajaj6000 Год назад +9

    4:20 he’s the original COVIDiot

  • @katmarrs7054
    @katmarrs7054 Год назад +5

    Did you mean to say when Henry VIII died Edward the VI took over? (You said Henry VI). Love your content.

  • @JulianPerez-it9sm
    @JulianPerez-it9sm Год назад +9

    Love this channel, easily one of my favorite history shows. After you finish this series you should do one on the wives of some of the most evil leaders in history. Like Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong. After all behind every great and/or not great man is an equally great and/or not great woman.

  • @amazinggrace5692
    @amazinggrace5692 Год назад +1

    How about your take on the “pregnancy portrait”? And was there a link with her and Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford?

  • @autumnpeacock4156
    @autumnpeacock4156 Год назад +7

    Questioning her virginity even now is kind of sad. Like still to this days that’s somehow all the matters, the big personal question

  • @chrisgeenadriver1631
    @chrisgeenadriver1631 Год назад +3

    Can we please have the mistresses and illegitimate children of Charles ii as a next series?

  • @Jordan-zg8yr
    @Jordan-zg8yr 8 месяцев назад +1

    Mary 1 dying
    Philip: marry me Elizabeth!
    Elizabeth: I got you my sis!

  • @missgiroud97
    @missgiroud97 Год назад +2

    I love your videos, but just wanted to add one little thing to the Habsburg: At 15:49 min Maria of Aragon was also sister of Juana of Castille, so, more inbreding.

  • @anastasia_editz
    @anastasia_editz Год назад +1

    I would love to see a future video about Lucrezia Borgia, the daughter of Pope Alexander VI

  • @astardustparade
    @astardustparade 5 месяцев назад +2

    It’s sad she couldn’t marry Robert Dudley.

  • @starrsmith3810
    @starrsmith3810 Год назад +1

    She low key terrifies me….but I gotta respect the fact that she did all of that without a man.

  • @beckydemon9553
    @beckydemon9553 Год назад +2

    I really wish I could watch this but I'm working :(

  • @catlover19921
    @catlover19921 Год назад +1

    You stated that Thomas Seymour was 40 while Elizabeth was 14, but on his introductory page, it stated that he died at the age of 23

  • @HORSEYANIME2024
    @HORSEYANIME2024 Год назад

    Part 3 pls

  • @rachelschenck9761
    @rachelschenck9761 11 месяцев назад +1

    Lindsay, have you done a video on Billy The Kid? If not, I think it would be an interesting video.

  • @paulad.patterson4732
    @paulad.patterson4732 Год назад +2

    Idea for future video: Eliza Rosanna Gilbert aka Lola Montez, mistress of Lugwig l of Bavaria.

  • @thaisgregorio2734
    @thaisgregorio2734 Год назад +3

    6:30 Elizabeth's brother was Edward IV, not Henry VI as you said in the video

    • @junecaffyn357
      @junecaffyn357 4 месяца назад

      Oh, I thought Elizabeth (Tudor) little brother became King Edward V1, I thought King Edward 1V was a Plantagenet

    • @thaisgregorio2734
      @thaisgregorio2734 4 месяца назад

      @junecaffyn357 you are right, he was Edward vi. It was a typo

  • @kissiemonstah
    @kissiemonstah 8 месяцев назад +2

    murderous mary and foreign philip made me giggle

  • @sophroniel
    @sophroniel Год назад +9

    I always feel so sorry for Mary. She was the first queen regnant, though technically not in name (and that's only if we ignore Mathilda's claims) and she got such a rotten hand. Even now, she is scorned in favour of her younger sister, and it has ro suck when your rep is still being tarnished like hers is, hundreds of yeats later.

    • @SM-ky6pb
      @SM-ky6pb Год назад +2

      She's the 1st queen regnant who's undisputed and legitimate but definitely not the 1st one to come up on the throne

  • @youforget1000thingsaday
    @youforget1000thingsaday 2 месяца назад

    Elizabeth was the original people's champ, lol.

  • @excelynite
    @excelynite Год назад +1

    Yaaaas Queen!!! Slay them mamma Liz!!!💅

  • @Richardsonprincess00
    @Richardsonprincess00 Год назад +2

    How about doing European royal families of 🇪🇸, 🇧🇪, 🇸🇪, Luxemburg, and others
    As well as the Asian royal family?

  • @susanpasarow2680
    @susanpasarow2680 Год назад +2

    Technically the 16th century was the early modern period, not the medieval period... 🫠

  • @marinalopez4978
    @marinalopez4978 Год назад +2

    if henry the viii was my father i also would not want to marry anyone ever

  • @whitechipmacadamianutcookiefan
    @whitechipmacadamianutcookiefan Год назад +3

    team dudley!!!

  • @annabergberg8020
    @annabergberg8020 Год назад

    Could you please go deeper into Prince Carlos? Maybe another Spanish Habsburg episode?

    • @susanmorgan8833
      @susanmorgan8833 8 месяцев назад

      Aside from what she already reported on Carlos, there is not much else to say. What more would you like to know about someone who had blinded all the horses in his stable, and was not finally put away until King Philip discovered his son was planning on killing him next. Unfortunately, some very deranged persons were allowed free rein during previous ages if they had the right pedigree.

  • @Whiteman2.0
    @Whiteman2.0 4 дня назад

    Wait. Elizabeth I and Thomas Seymour. I know it’s her step-uncle but that’s still so messed up - oh and he was also her stepmother’s (parr’s) husband

  • @samcohen2483
    @samcohen2483 Год назад +4

    Let's just say Mary had Elizabeth executed. When Mary died, who would have become Monarch?

    • @nassimboussaadia6720
      @nassimboussaadia6720 Год назад +10

      Mary Queen of Scots

    • @BiG-JuPO1O1
      @BiG-JuPO1O1 Год назад +4

      Queen Mary of Scots would of taken the throne. She was actually pronounced Queen of England after Queen Mary 1 death when she was in France. Scotland and France signed a treaty seeing Elizabeth as the rightful heir to the throne. Thus drama between Elizabeth and Mary began later on.

  • @wwirelesswwizard
    @wwirelesswwizard Год назад

    6:29 Correction (though I know you just misspoke): He was Edward VI, not Henry VI.

  • @majaluning3624
    @majaluning3624 Год назад +3

    I understand that people love to hear about it, but I am personally tired of hearing about Henry the Eighth (in general, not specifically your videos - you’re always great).

  • @einezcrespo2107
    @einezcrespo2107 Год назад

    You made a bit of an audio mistake calling Edward VI Henry VI.

  • @eddiehancockii
    @eddiehancockii Год назад

    I sub to you and have notifications turned on but I've gotten nothing in the way of notifications from your account in weeks. RUclips needs to get it together. I need my Tea Time fix!

  • @salwayassin
    @salwayassin 8 месяцев назад

    Great😂😊

  • @HistoryandHeadlines
    @HistoryandHeadlines Год назад +3

    Who would have been the best match for her and why?

  • @jesurenbnb
    @jesurenbnb Год назад

    I wonder what would have happened to spain if carlos became king?

  • @courtenay725
    @courtenay725 Год назад

    Is it pronounced Courte-nay or Court-ney?

  • @julisa3100
    @julisa3100 Год назад

    4:09 excuse me what? 😂

  • @dastar5340
    @dastar5340 Год назад

    Error: he became Edward VI, not Henry VI (timestamp 6:30).

  • @orsino88
    @orsino88 Год назад +1

    “Medieval world”? Surely you didn’t mean that. Renaissance or Early Modern, maybe.

  • @wee-subwilson1897
    @wee-subwilson1897 3 месяца назад

    Henry VIII’s son was Edward VI,not Henry as said in the video. Great video, though.

  • @realitycheck4842
    @realitycheck4842 Год назад +1

    King Henry VIII’s son did not become King Henry the 6th. He was King Edward.

  • @zoecolquitt1355
    @zoecolquitt1355 Год назад +7

    It's beacuse of Henry VIII and Thomas Seymour Elizabeth I had to build an emotional border wall

  • @Athlynne
    @Athlynne 9 месяцев назад

    Just wanted to point out a mistake - you said Henry VIII's son was Henry VI, I think you meant Edward.

  • @SomePerson_Online
    @SomePerson_Online Год назад +10

    I’m surprised no one suspected her of being ‘gay’ since she never wanted to marry a man, she declined all her suitors 😭

    • @royaltyfandomx
      @royaltyfandomx Год назад +6

      She was the head of the church. Being that was really bad at the time. England was really religious and Elizabeth did enforce harsh laws

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 Год назад +13

      Lesbianism was hardly even seen as an option back then, since they considers sex and romance to be something men did and women received so two women just wasn’t an option in their mind. If Elizabeth had been a man who refused to marry or take lovers they would absolutely have accused him of being gay

    • @carinafourie9119
      @carinafourie9119 Год назад +3

      People clearly spoke up when they thought someone was homosexual. Like with James VI/I or Queen Anne. It never came up, most likely because she was not homosexual and never gave that impression, even to those that knew her best.

    • @standard9741
      @standard9741 Год назад +9

      I think she had too many obvious men favorites and lovers for that. I’m sure it was bandied about but that’s an intense thing to say when treason = death lol

    • @moondivine2288
      @moondivine2288 Год назад

      *sighs in aroace* that sounds more like a modern problem. Like other comments said Elizabeth had male favorites and she was rumored having a thing for her childhood friend Robert. Why would they suspect she’s a lesbian?
      Now god forbid a person wants to be single because they simply aren’t interested in dating. allosexuals think everyone has to date.

  • @mechengr1731
    @mechengr1731 Год назад +3

    Forget the suitors. The knotted mess of the Spanish Royals is something im interested in.
    The family tree probably looks like a game of twister

  • @gaillewis5472
    @gaillewis5472 Год назад

    Carlos showed some hardcore dark triad traits.

  • @helencourtnell5621
    @helencourtnell5621 Год назад

    A slight slip of the tongue I think. King Henry VIII’s son became King Edward VI not King Henry VI.

  • @m4ttyp4nts
    @m4ttyp4nts 7 месяцев назад

    TIL that Henry VIII's son, Edward, became King Henry VI at the age of nine.

  • @Heothbremel
    @Heothbremel Год назад

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  • @abbyrock5684
    @abbyrock5684 Год назад +1

    Not that far from the realm of possibility that Anne committed adultery while married to Henry. After all, Anne was Henry's partner in adultery while he was married to Queen Katherine.

    • @mechengr1731
      @mechengr1731 Год назад +6

      If she did have an affair, it was probably to try and have a son so she wouldn't be cast aside.
      Also, its largely believed she tried to avoid being the king's mistress bc her sister was his mistress and then cast her aside

    • @abbyrock5684
      @abbyrock5684 Год назад

      @@mechengr1731 or she was just "the great whore". Have you never known someone be they male or female who are so convinced of their sway over their partner that they feel they can get away with anything? This is the type of person Anne strikes me as having been.

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 9 месяцев назад

      Refusing Henry’s advances was realistically impossible. Cheating on Henry was an actual death sentence. They aren’t really comparable

  • @rc.czarii
    @rc.czarii Год назад +9

    Lindsay, I support you and all.
    But calling thomas a suitor or *lover* isn't going to age well, since we all know what he tried to do to elizabeth.

  • @simplypandaedits327
    @simplypandaedits327 Год назад

    can you do a video about the youngest queen or queen consorts of the uk

  • @nancylopez8706
    @nancylopez8706 Год назад

    Make a rumble channels please