Here’s Why GM’s Super Cruise Rules The Highway
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- Опубликовано: 31 дек 2024
- For true handsfree driving, it’s tough to beat General Motors’ Super Cruise. In its latest version it can navigate over 750,000 miles of roadways in North America. It performs lane changes by itself, courteously stays out of the left lane unless passing, and can even tow. All while feeling confident. Car and Driver contributing editor John Voelcker joins Tom Voelk outside of Detroit, MI in the new Chevrolet Silverado EV. They discuss their experience with Super Cruise and why they feel it’s unmatched for long distance highway travel. Watch Tom’s hands, you’ll see.
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Wow, I wasn’t aware that super cruise is smart enough to not camp in the left lane! Smarter than many drivers I saw over Memorial Day weekend 😂
I may not live long enough for this-I just turned 81 this past weekend-but I hope that autonomous driving will someday evolve to setting one's destination in the onboard computer, then kicking back and taking a nap, possibly as long as one's entire trip.
That's a big technological jump needed to reach that dream.
Tesla is almost there, through its FSD technology. I am pretty sure FSD will go mainstream by end of 2026.
Look at Waymo. People can do this for short trips on an ad-hoc basis.
Teslas FSD is 99.9% there. Only very rare edge cases give it problems.
If these systems get more popular, maybe the average driving ability on the highway will improve.
You’re probably the coolest car reviewer on RUclips
I am a private pilot and thanks to Garmin, GPS, and WaaS technology we now have great autopilots in small single engine aircraft. This seems similar. You cannot tune out entirely but it reduces the mental fatigue and workload associated with long cross country trips. The General is on a role right now!
Yup, you nailed it.
@@DrivenCarReviewscan you please test super Cruise at night and in the rain and in fog to test the system at its limits I'm just curious
I imagine accident rates dropping as more adopt this. Got to love that.
Oh, humans will manage to screw that up too.
@@DrivenCarReviews They’ll turn Super Cruise into super bruise.
Another spot-on look at current technology.
Tom, I've driven in Seattle-Tacoma . . . people are maniacs over there. Not that we are much better in Spokane.
Good to see GM making the super-cruise work . . . many people need it. Me, I prefer to drive ;)
Every city is insane. I moved to a small town in northern Wisconsin when I retired from the military last year. I am so over the chaos and crowded roads.
Spokane and Seattle drivers are the worst. They're aggressive about things not worth being aggressive over, like doing exactly 60mph in the left lane. There's no respect for the flow of traffic or collective safety. Egos take precedence. Utah too. I also blame Subaru owners.
Interesting. I love the logic to change lanes after over taking. I’m assuming Tesla’s FSD does not have this logic. I’m always annoyed by a Tesla parked in the left lane pegged at what seems like 50mph in a 60mph zone.
FSD is changing all the time. Unfortunately Tesla makes it difficult to get a car for an extended period of time. My ability to grade FSD suffers because of that.
When can you review the traverse Z71 and RS trim I like the Lakeshore blue color@@DrivenCarReviews
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Why not compare it to enhanced autopilot instead which would be more apples to apples comparison?
glad you decided to make a separate video on this. never gonna experience this since i'm not in the same continent, but good to learn more about it
I was really impressed with super cruise on my Cadillac. I was not thrilled about buying a Cadillac, but I may buy another one because the super cruise is amazing. Driving is so much less stressful, it changes lanes on its own, and I like the “polite” driving features. It is exactly everything these guys say it is. It penalizes you if your hands or eyes divert away for an unsafe amount of time. It is relaxing. I have relatives all over the US, and I drive when I bring my dogs with me. I can’t imagine driving any other type of car.
Does the Super cruise turn on the turn signals automatically for lane changes?
Yep, I’ve got a Cadillac CT5 with it, and it’ll initiate a lane change by signaling first and signaling until it’s in the next lane, it then disengages the signal which completes the lane change
I love this feature because the car will usually determine when to do a lane change with the signal. And it gets back over on its own once you pass the other car.
Yay! I'm a car enthusianst but this tech will actually lessen traffic jam and best of all avoids accident. Not to forget that aging people can now drive way longer than before.
How does Supercruise handle a tailgater that tries to go strong you be for your have a chance to get out of the fast lane when passing?
Any comment about Supercruise handing carpool lane? Would it merge it back out to "regular" lane?
Pretty sure you can set it to not change lanes automatically.
It can't merge onto or exit a highway yet right?
I don't believe it can.
That is correct. Super cruise will not work while merging on and off highways. Additionally, it is not good at accommodating cars merging onto the highway. It won’t detect a car unless it is next to you
Other than automatic lane changing I'm not seeing how this is any better than the free Tesla Autopilot???
No hands on the wheel. Towing ability for vehicles that are rated for it. In my experience, far less phantom braking and a more confident feel. It's not that SC is perfect, but it works quite well in my time with it.
It's not hands free but actual *ATTENTIVE* mode created by these systems. The driver is still driving the car just *WAY* more in control than before as the back seat driver is now you, the actual driver. Definitely something "new" as i experienced myself just today but hardly unknown in the physiology of actually driving a car or anything else for that matter.
That's kind of what I was getting at. You're just more succinct!
Your hands don’t have to be on the steering wheel on many highways, your hands have to be on your lap or near the steering wheel.
About the comment at 7:11. When I moved to Michigan back in 2014 most drivers used to respect the speed limits. Now it feels unsafe to drive on the i-75 at 70 miles per hour. Same thing for low speed streets or even when the school zone light is flashing, Come on Michigan, we are better than this.
Absolutely INFURIATING! As a Tesla owner with FSD (full self driving), I have had to have my hands tied to the wheel when using the autopilot feature and yet the driver here has absolutely no hands on the wheel what so ever. How is this acceptable by the NHTSA who has ruined Tesla’s innovations?I?
And the comments! - Have none of you ever heard of the FSD that has been around since 2020? You make it sound like Chevy has done something revolutionary.
Just so you know, my Tesla can drive off and on highways, including city roads, lane changes, speed up/slow down, signal changes, stop signs, four way intersections, and even can slow down for a “dip” between side streets. Yet because of the NHTSA, my hands have to be on the steering wheel at all times (I will get a warning and disengagement of FSD if hands are not in contact for longer than a minute). I feel like I’m taking crazy pills listening to this video!
I was wondering the same thing! Does the tesla monitor the drivers eyes?
Recent updates to FSD do allow hands free driving but only if the interior camera can monitor the drivers eyes - this is a huge improvement. If the camera is blocked (sun visor for example), the Tesla will ask for steering wheel inputs to determine if the drivers is monitoring FSD.
I know tire blowouts are quite rare but imagine having one with no hands on the wheel.
That was quick lol. I was trying to figure out how it was unsafe. There's always room for error in all situations of life. Nothing is perfect.
To use super cruise, your hands have to be near the steering wheel. I have been able to grab the steering wheel quickly when I have needed to. I did get a flat tire, and super cruise stopped working.
Thanks Dynamic Duo great review
Nice feature but plan on spending $75k+ if you want it.
Which of these systems works best in the rainy Northwest, GM, Ford or Tesla?
Not sure. I suspect SC because of its sensors and LIDAR mapping info. But none of them like severe wet/foggy/snowy weather. Which is smart TBH.
Instructive review. I could really use one of these systems during the times I feel groggy on a long drive. Even so, I remain heavily skeptical that any automated system can handle unpredictable situations. There are many situations where swerving or accelerating is a better choice than braking. It seems to me these automated systems only hit the brakes when there is a problem.
I've not experienced a truly extreme unpredictable situation. But I have found that in general, I'm actually more alert of my surroundings since much of the load of driving is done by the software. For example, Super Cruise won't steer around a truck tire tread in the middle of a lane, but it seemed like I caught it far earlier and was able to take control and avoid it. FWIW, that's as extreme as I have experienced.
@@DrivenCarReviews yes, you described this perfectly! I have been in these situations and found it to be the same way. More aware and able to pay attention to obstacles better.
I live in Seattle and formerly of Detroit. Seattle is far more dangerous because the speed differential is more. Limit 60 in Seattle but regularly I see 85+ drivers. In Michigan 70 limit and you see 80 and 85 regularly. Michigan police give you 10mph. In Seattle there is no enforcement. In Seattle you have a lot of young speeders who are not seasoned drivers. In Michigan drivers are more accustomed to the higher speeds. Of course, in both areas you have the idiot drivers who think they are Mario Andretti but are really Mario from the video game. Not that the Michigan drives are more skilled but at least they know when they can squeeze a lane change in. Roads are also straighter in Michigan, a lot more limited sight distance curves in WA. Tom, you were on one 96 of the slower freeways. Get on 696 or 75 and you'll really see some speed.
As a Mario from Seattle I'm not sure how to feel about your comment, haha. ;-)
But you're right, the insane young drivers here are out of hand these days. Quite a change from 15+ years ago, when we were known for polite driving, as seen in old Pemco commercials. And Ballard drivers as seen in Almost Live!
One advantage that Michigan has over Seattle is real estate. All of our highways are wedged in and often times have exits on the left rather than the right. Lots of curves too. All those things really mess traffic up anywhere. But yeah, as polite as Pacific Northwesterners are, they sure are passive aggressive in the left lane.
My father always said to drive ahead and I know he did not mean move the car ahead. And I was taught not to make the other drivers drive for you, and never stay behind a truck because anything could be going on in from of that truck and you would never know.
I really wonder how Super Cruise would handle some of the mountain passes on I90? Would it slow down? Would it try and pass slow trucks? Would it stop for the scenic outlooks?
Check out my most recent video on Lyriq, I was on I-90 nearly all the way to Snoqualmie Pass while shooting that SC segment and it was flawless. It would only slow down if a vehicle was in its way. Passing trucks was easy, EVs don't suffer power loss at altitude. It did not stop for scenic spots or historical markers... like my wife.
Does Super Cruise require a subscription fee?
Yes, after three years.
Super Cruise seems great and I can’t wait to have it in my next Tahoe. However, the system apparently doesn’t “read” the speed limit and adjust the vehicle speed according - at least I’ve seen no documentation that it does. It’s a feature that IS available with Mercedes, and really takes the stress out of long distance driving on unfamiliar roads.
Sorry, I'm not sure if it does or doesn't read the speed limit signs (or uses GPS positioning data for that information). On the other hand, the Mercedes system is limited to Nevada and California right now and it's not in any SUVs.
If you want autonomous driving you can simply go with Tesla. GM’s Super Cruise is just basic adaptive cruise control system which only works on highways. Even my 2-3x cheaper Ford Focus can do basically the same things this system can on top of being able to read road signs...
@@Zripas Ha! You clearly don't know what you're talking about.
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It's nice to throw around random accusations, but you could start actually providing examples of what I don't understand here by your opinion instead of just claiming it. You don't even know if this car can recognize speed signs, mine does.
What this super adaptive cruise control of yours does more than my cheap/free system is allows more of a free hands experience (mine nags from time too time to show that I'm still there), changes lines. Duno if yours can even do stop/start in a traffic jam, mine doesn't, mine will only stop but will not start automatically after trafic starts moving. But I got it for free as a bonus.
Or maybe you got offended because I said to use Tesla? Because that one will beat super cruise all day long with its feature package, especially with FSD which can drive anywhere, including city roads, where super cruise will literally ignore red light and just go straight into intersection.
So please, educate me on what I got wrong here.
The super cruise goes any speed you adjust cruise control to, just like other cars. The speed limit is displayed in the dash. I have used my Cadillac in stop and go traffic, and it worked well, although it is not recommended. I drive long distances so I need a gas powered car. I can’t seem to find a gas powered car that performs as well as super cruise. I am looking for another car now, if I don’t find a better alternative in my price range, I will buy another Cadillac. I am not even a fan of Cadillacs, but I love the super cruise
competing with Tesla. If they get FSD or street compatible..I would be interested.
This is adaptive cruise control system, cars had it for quite some time now. Going from this to actual street driving it's like comparing baby learning how to crawl vs gymnasts at olympics, it's a huge difference on what you need to perform and how it needs to be done.
Wanna revisit this video?
I have driven many, many hours with super cruse, both in an escalade, and in a new Traverse (latest model with the Google maps.) Super cruise is pretty good on 4 lane highways, but in driving from Austin to Lubbock, which is mostly 2 lane highways, there are lots of places where there is no map data, and super cruise frequently stops working when there are merge lanes. I think GM is on the wrong way with it using maps rather than AI vision (like Open pilot or Tesla FSD.)
I'm trying to find out where I can rent a car with Super Cruise. Most car rental agencies don't know whether any of their cars have it or where they're available.
That might be tough since SC is usually on higher trims and rental car companies typically buy base models. Perhaps call a dealership and explain what you want to do, they might be accommodating. You might be surprised.
@@DrivenCarReviews Thanks! I'll give that a try. Also, rental car locations often don't control what's coming in, so if they had SC they might not know it. Great video, thanks so much!
Recently I rented a Kia Soul from the Prescott Airport. It had some surprising features with driving itself, but my hands had to be on the steering wheel, while it was turning the wheel
@@tinaderbin7092 Yup, Kia system is decent especially in higher trims. But Super Cruise is a whole different level.
I love cruise control so damn much i use it daily.
Do the cars still have adaptive cruise i can use on regular 2 lane roads or 45 mph back roads?
Wonder what it looks like when it yells and how fast it yells.
Dont like the idea of being locked out of something i paid for... i get its dangerous to not be looking but its dangerous to speed and i dont want a car tracking my speed so not sure i like the thought of them not trusting me and being able to ban me from it at any moment.
There's also a regular adaptive cruise control. SC has expanded to 2 lane roads as well but I've not tested it on those.
@@DrivenCarReviewsplease test it at night time and in the rain
@@DrivenCarReviewsplease test it during the night and also in the rain
@@Maxwell1989it works well for me in the rain at night. As long as the lane markings are clear
I have had my Cadillac for a year now. I use super cruise all the time. It is especially useful driving in the mountains!
I wonder if supercruise reacts to other drivers drifting into your lane.
So...... if you tell the system you want to change lanes at a moment when it wouldn't be safe to, what does it do?
It says no.
1. GM sells your driving data to Lexus-Nexus without your explicit consent.
2. I feel like lane-centering is just the right amount of automation. You still keep your hands on the wheel ready to take control at any time. With full control of the vehicle by SuperCruise, any risky situation on the road and your car is not in your control.
Feel free to keep your hands on the steering wheel, gently touching it, but not applying torque. As long as you don't apply torque to steering wheel, SuperCruise self-driving will stay active. Alternatively, there are other car brands with hands-on self-driving, like Subaru and Hyundai/Kia.
@@sansin6250 that's another aspect that I hated in Tesla, to steer around a pothole requires deactivation. I think it's much better when the system allows you to contribute to control vs. fight you.
@@privettoliSC will not steer around objects in the road in my time with it. Thought the only time that happened was 4 years ago in a Cadillac CT6 where there was a truck tire tread in the middle of the lane. I had to steer around it. That said, it seems as though I saw it much further ahead than normal since I was more relaxed from behind the wheel. Hard to know...
@@privettoli Subaru too fights driver if driver applies torque to steering wheel. Both SuperCruise and Kia/Hyundai system allows driver to take over promptly.
@@DrivenCarReviews I guess I prefer the lane centering experience with ID.4, it's convenient to "contribute" without completely turning off Travel Assist feature.
More videos about these autopilot self steering ADAS whatever you want to call it. It's a huge factor in my buying decision. It's also becoming one of the greatest differentiators now that electric drive is making all cars drivetrains fairly uninteresting and equivalently competent. A lot of reviewers spend maybe a few seconds talking about these systems and it's extremely frustrating.
If you want good autonomous system then you simply should go with Tesla
I would love to buy a Tesla if it was gas powered because I travel long distances. I recommend Cadillac Super Cruise if you need a gas powered car.
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Do you never stop to get to bathroom or stretch your legs or something? Like, how many miles are you doing without stopping?
FSD 12.5 literally does this, it also does this off of the highway. It can also be activated anywhere. smh yall are lateeee
also $100 a month
Enhanced autopilot does same and more currently
@Zripas how much is that? I never see it as an option when I was looking at tesla, what can it do more than this?
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Och good point, its so weird, I was checking as a person from European country where enhanced autopilot is being offered for 3.1k euros, but it's not there for US buyers and only FSD is being offered. This is really weird.
Ok, did some googling, looks like Tesla removed enhanced autopilot option at some point this year which was 6k as one time payment. Now you can buy FSD for 8k and get all those features + extra stuff like actual ability to drive inside cities. Really weird move by Tesla as there would be plenty of people who would want autopilot on highways while they would have no use inside cities.
For actual enhanced autopilot, while it was a thing, it was doing basically everything on highway, flowing with traffic, auto changing lanes, entering and exiting highway, well, full capabilities, maybe biggest drawback was that you had to keep your hands on the wheel, tho with newest FSD this one is gone too, now you just need to look forwards and pay attention to the road and system will do everything for you.
So yea, I guess its no longer an option to just get system which only works on highways, tho to note, there is free version included with the car which will do basic things on highways, like keeping between lanes, auto speed adjustments, safe distance from car ahead, but no auto lane changes or exiting highway on its own.
You GOTTA check out Open Pilot by Comma AI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nissan Pro-Pilot 2.0 tows while in hands free mode. Seems GM doesn’t do their homework when they make this claim as their system is the only one capable of that.
Nothing on their website mentions towing. Source?
I regularly pull a utility trailer with my 2023 Nissan Ariya, driving handsfree on the interstate. Works no problem.
SC is specifically designed for towing and will factor in the length of the load for auto lane changing. It also compensates for braking distances and crosswinds. Pretty sure Nissan isn't doing that yet but I'm checking with them.
From my experience, I felt that GM downplayed super cruise. It was much better than I expected
This is knight ride in rare form
You guys are too polite. Call Tesla out on their bullshit.
Tesla FSD does all those things. Great!
Apart from monitor the actual driver properly.
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But it does monitor driver with internal camera.
Teslas are not the best cars for long distance driving
@@tinaderbin7092 ok
Most botched roll out of an amazing product ever.
Try driving on a road with no lane markers.
Try driving on a one lane gravel or dirt road.
You can on a Tesla..
Not impressed. My Mercedes E300 could drive me down the highway in 2017.
Works only on certain roads and subscription based and also uploads all your driving habits so that insurance/ law can have access to them…a hard no.
I can’t believe I am here talking about how great my Cadillac is with super cruise. I never liked Cadillacs, but I love super cruise
Wholesome af
Sorry Tom, but I have lost confidence in your reviews after this. You obviously haven't driven the latest incarnation of Tesla FSD. Vastly Superior to super cruise in every way. If you don't believe me, go get a test drive at a Tesla dealer. Sitting in the Tesla parking lot, press the microphone button and tell it to navigate to McDonald's (or somewhere) and watch it leave the parking lot on its own and take you to McDonald's. Simple as that. No interventions, no disconnection because you have to take an Interstate exit, it just does it.
I sense a Tesla owner's ego hurt.
No ego involved. Just the facts. You ought to try them sometime.
Isn’t it an $8,000 option on the Tesla? And they’re driving a truck. There’s no way I would buy a Tesla Cybertruck; too “cutting edge” for me.
@@tommihelich2613 it's $8,000 or $100 a month. So, yes, more expensive, but vastly more capable. Works on every street in the world with existing Google Maps (or Baidu maps in China). No special high-definition maps needed. Really no comparison. You get what you pay for.
Inevitably, I end up disappointing just about everyone so there's that. The FSD I have experienced drives like a grandma on dramamine and does not inspire confidence. It's also significantly more expensive than SC. I stand by my observations.
This would be amazing in England, Australia or Japan