Exactly. Two millennia old, worldwide, all cultures and languages, 24 rites (besides Latin) in communion with each other with over 1.2 Billion followers Seems like it’s pretty clear which is the True Church of Christ
@@savannahfan Christ in His times, didn't have too much followers when He wasn't crucify yet, but when He was resurrected, He started to have a lot of followers through middle east, asia and the balkans thanks to the Apostles (later on, the whole world). The only True Chruch of Christ it's Him, not any earthly chruch with no authority in heaven and earth. Whoever want to understand this, understand it. I'm not here to argue, but to say the truth which it's not mine, but of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Thank you! I was raised Catholic and was taught all those things. I'm Christian now and feel free in knowing I can come to Jesus in privacy on my knees and confess my sins. I don't need to go to confession to a priest and I don't believe in perguatory anymore.
@@colvinator1611 Thank you for your support and kindness. It was so weird growing up and being taught about pergatory and my relatives would speak of it like it was true and you just go to this uncomfortable place for a while and get purged/purified of your sins and then you can go to heaven.
I feel very sorry for you. So confused and happy in your sins. You don’t even know enough to realize that you were always Christian,although a very poorly catechized one. The Catholic faith is the only true Christian faith. I guess you really don’t have to believe in purgatory anymore being you will probably pass right by it on your way down. Apostasy from Gods Church is a mortal sin.
They too busy denying people salvation. Our salvation is complete in Christ Jesus our Lord and anyone who tells you different is speaking lies from the devil.
@The Mysterious Cynthia X *A simple read of the Bible one will know R Church is unbiblical and not the nt church of the Bible. You dont read the Bible do you? 95% of Rc doctrines are unheard of in 1st century and not from traditions of Jesus and Apostles or Scriptures or contradicts Scriptures! Nt Church of the Bible had not heard or practised any of these Rc doctrines.* 1. Purgatory 2. Confessing to priests 3. Office of pope or priests4. Pope being the vicar (representation of Christ, usurping the authority of God)5. Praying to Mary, saints6. Penance 7. Worshipping idols/images, placing idols images in church8. Church in the Bible is not building, but the body of believers9. Sacrament was never the real body and blood of Christ as RC church claimed (Real meaning real blood and body, bcos it didnt really turned "bloody" did it?)10. Salvation by (works (7sacraments) +faith) was never in the Bible. Real salvation is by grace through faith as seen in Bible. 11. Rosary, set repetitive prayers, hail Mary 10000 times12. Mass - putting Christ on the altar again and again13. Mary as queen of heaven 14. Mary as Ark of the new covenant. 15. Mary as the mother of heavenly Jesus thus Mary exist before Christ16. Immersion of infant for baptism17. Holy water18. Celibacy of priests (no office of priests in NT anyway, only priesthood of all believers)19. Kissing of statues20. Changing of 10 commandments. COmmandment of graven image removed by Catholic CHurch in Catholic Catechism. Splitting of another commandment into 2 commandments. 21. Catholic church changed Bible verse Gen 3:15 (And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel."). 'He' and 'His' referring to Christ. Catholics changed it to (Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; She shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise Her heel.") 'She' and 'Her' refers to Mary. 22. Catholic Church use Rev 12 to refer to Mary as 'queen of heaven', when Rev 12:6 clearly refers to Israel escaping the Great Tribulation. Mary cannot be alive to escape the Great Tribulation. 23. Catholic Church refers to Mary as 'Queen of heaven', but 'Queen of Mary' in the Bible is a demonic entity Astoreth or Ishtar, the female deity partner of Baal. 5 verses in Jeremiah as proof.24. Catholic church refers to Mary as the Mediatress, Co redemptress, helper of Christ, firstborn of all creation .. Mary cannot be the mediatress. Jesus is the one and only Mediator between God and man. Only Jesus redeems. Only the Holy Spirit is the Helper sent by Jesus. Only Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. 25. Roman Catholicism has “saints” one can pray to in order to gain a particular blessing. For example, Saint Gianna Beretta Molla is the patron saint of fertility. Francis of Assisi is the patron saint of animals. There are multiple patron saints of healing and comfort. Nowhere is even a hint of this taught in Scripture. Just as the Roman pantheon of gods had a god of love, a god of peace, a god of war, a god of strength, a god of wisdom, etc., so the Catholic Church has a saint who is “in charge” over each of these and many other categories. Many Roman cities had a god specific to the city, and the Catholic Church provided “patron saints” for cities as well.26. Mary is called the gate of heaven? Mary has keys to paradise? Here are roman pagan teachers saying their man made goddess is their savior. None of these quotes have been denounced, on the contrary they are cited. "Open to us, O Mary, the gate of Paradise, since you have its keys! " St. Ambrose "God has entrusted the keys and treasures of Heaven to Mary." St. Thomas Aquinas "No one can enter into Heaven except through Mary, as entering through a gate. " St. Bonaventure "Mary is called "The Gate of Heaven" because no one can enter Heaven but through her means." St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori Papal infallibility Immaculate Mary Assumption of Mary Perpetual Virgin Mary as Mother of God, co mediatrix, co redemptrix, new ark of covenant, Pope as vicar, Holy Water, papacy, peter as first pope, papal succession, apostolic succession, indulgences, 7 sacraments, rosary veneration of saints and statues celibacy of priesthood canonization of saints limbo
If a person would just read the Bible, from beginning to end, and allow the Bible to show them what the truth is, this would show the person what they need to know. But many people go by the traditions of men, having studied the Bible very little or incompletely. So that's why it's so easy for them to believe whatever they are taught.
Very true I'm ex Catholic they go by tradition most of them don't read The Bible only what the priest told you to read in the Catholic Church day he chooses a person to read. When you show a cat foot What Jesus Christ talk about Faith Repent Accept Jesus crisis saviour What he did for us on the cross . It's by grace not good works . Do is good works in The Bible but the catholics take to add a context Well what it means by good works showing evidence you are Christian not working away to heaven . Cancel church which started 34AD. When you corner a Catholic about grace In showing the day change the 10 commandments And they have extra books of The Bible that was not expired . They blame Luther They blame Luther Death is a big excuse.
St. Jerome says "Ignorance of the Scripture is ignorance of Christ.", he is the one who devoted his life to translate Hebrew/ Greek/ Aramaic Septuagint OT and NT mostly Koine Greek and some Aramaic, into Latin, thus producing Latin Vulgate (Latin Version), and also made some commentaries in Gospels. The Catholic Church existed before the 1st Gospel of Mark is ever written on 65 A.D. and the compilation of Bible (LXX from OT made of 46books and 27 books NT out of 300 books) was made official only on 367-415 . Therefore, the Church before the Bible is Compiled, is holding on Church oral Traditions, oral transmission and written apostolic letters. According to CCC120, It was by apostolic Tradition that the Church discerned which writing are to be included in the list of sacred books. Tadah! Tradition bear good fruit the Bible. What tradition did Jesus Christ critized? Twas some of the Mitzvot ( mitzvah for singular law), like cleansing rituals, Corban to avoid help to parents, Sabbath laws to manipulate others, sabbath feasts, Kashrut...etc , which becomes too legalistic and became burden to Jews, they forgot the heart of the oral and written Torah which is holiness, mercy and charity. Even St. Paul tells some of it in his epistle to the Colossians 2:16. Some Church Traditions today are often abused and goes beyond what is sound doctrine and often turned to cultic activities, heresies, schisms, worst apostate; however, the Church can easily detect it and will make apostolic letter to tell that is not the way it should be. The Church knows those abuses and she corrects it. That is only what I only know connecting Church Traditions and Bible.
@Turin21 *95% of R Church doctrines were not from Scriptures yet you claimed its 100% R Catholic? Lolol. You dont read the Bible do you?* *95% of Rc doctrines are unheard of in 1st century and not from traditions of Jesus and Apostles or Scriptures or contradicts Scriptures! Nt Church of the Bible had not heard or practised any of these Rc doctrines.* 1. Purgatory 2. Confessing to priests 3. Office of pope or priests4. Pope being the vicar (representation of Christ, usurping the authority of God)5. Praying to Mary, saints6. Penance 7. Worshipping idols/images, placing idols images in church8. Church in the Bible is not building, but the body of believers9. Sacrament was never the real body and blood of Christ as RC church claimed (Real meaning real blood and body, bcos it didnt really turned "bloody" did it?)10. Salvation by (works (7sacraments) +faith) was never in the Bible. Real salvation is by grace through faith as seen in Bible. 11. Rosary, set repetitive prayers, hail Mary 10000 times12. Mass - putting Christ on the altar again and again13. Mary as queen of heaven 14. Mary as Ark of the new covenant. 15. Mary as the mother of heavenly Jesus thus Mary exist before Christ16. Immersion of infant for baptism17. Holy water18. Celibacy of priests (no office of priests in NT anyway, only priesthood of all believers)19. Kissing of statues20. Changing of 10 commandments. COmmandment of graven image removed by Catholic CHurch in Catholic Catechism. Splitting of another commandment into 2 commandments. 21. Catholic church changed Bible verse Gen 3:15 (And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel."). 'He' and 'His' referring to Christ. Catholics changed it to (Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; She shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise Her heel.") 'She' and 'Her' refers to Mary. 22. Catholic Church use Rev 12 to refer to Mary as 'queen of heaven', when Rev 12:6 clearly refers to Israel escaping the Great Tribulation. Mary cannot be alive to escape the Great Tribulation. 23. Catholic Church refers to Mary as 'Queen of heaven', but 'Queen of Mary' in the Bible is a demonic entity Astoreth or Ishtar, the female deity partner of Baal. 5 verses in Jeremiah as proof.24. Catholic church refers to Mary as the Mediatress, Co redemptress, helper of Christ, firstborn of all creation .. Mary cannot be the mediatress. Jesus is the one and only Mediator between God and man. Only Jesus redeems. Only the Holy Spirit is the Helper sent by Jesus. Only Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. 25. Roman Catholicism has “saints” one can pray to in order to gain a particular blessing. For example, Saint Gianna Beretta Molla is the patron saint of fertility. Francis of Assisi is the patron saint of animals. There are multiple patron saints of healing and comfort. Nowhere is even a hint of this taught in Scripture. Just as the Roman pantheon of gods had a god of love, a god of peace, a god of war, a god of strength, a god of wisdom, etc., so the Catholic Church has a saint who is “in charge” over each of these and many other categories. Many Roman cities had a god specific to the city, and the Catholic Church provided “patron saints” for cities as well.26. Mary is called the gate of heaven? Mary has keys to paradise? Here are roman pagan teachers saying their man made goddess is their savior. None of these quotes have been denounced, on the contrary they are cited. "Open to us, O Mary, the gate of Paradise, since you have its keys! " St. Ambrose "God has entrusted the keys and treasures of Heaven to Mary." St. Thomas Aquinas "No one can enter into Heaven except through Mary, as entering through a gate. " St. Bonaventure "Mary is called "The Gate of Heaven" because no one can enter Heaven but through her means." St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori Papal infallibility Immaculate Mary Assumption of Mary Perpetual Virgin Mary as Mother of God, co mediatrix, co redemptrix, new ark of covenant, Pope as vicar, Holy Water, papacy, peter as first pope, papal succession, apostolic succession, indulgences, 7 sacraments, rosary veneration of saints and statues celibacy of priesthood canonization of saints limbo you said Just read some of his writings. 100% Catholic
1 Timothy 2:5, "There is one mediator between God and Man - the Man Christ Jesus." Purgatory, praying to Mary, Praying to Saints, calling priests, "Father", Baptizing children, not reading the Bible, selling alcohol in church, having worldly music played at Church gatherings are all bad practices that lead people to hell. I was 14 and a Christian gave us a tract that you must be born again. My Mother took it home and I read it. It quoted verses from John 3:3-7. I said, "Look at these protestants, inventing false doctrines to try and get us to go to their Church. If being born again was in the Bible, the Catholic Priests would have taught us." At 16 I bought a bible and to my amazement, John 3:3-7 was in it, and then reading, I found out that being "Born Again" was the main thrust of the new Testament! But Catholics did not know about being Born Again. Orthodox Churches also do not know about being Born Again. The older the Church, the more they are steeped in Tradition and Man Made doctrines like praying to saints. 1 Timothy 2:5, "There is one mediator between God and Man - the Man Christ Jesus."
"I urge then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone - for kings, for all those in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceful life in all godliness and holiness. This is good and pleases God our Saviour, who wants all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man, Christ Jesus." 1Timothy 2:1-5 Jesus is the one Mediator of our salvation, our only Saviour. But He is not our only intercessor, as the whole passage above clearly indicates. So the one passage that fundamentalists have used to deny intercessionary prayer, when read in context, actually backs up intercessionary prayer. James 5: 16-18 " ...The fervent prayer of a righteous person is very powerful. Elijah was a human being like us; yet he prayed earnestly that it might not rain, and for three years and six months it did not rain upon the land. Then he prayed again, and the sky gave rain and the earth produced its fruit." So we see that intercession strengthens prayer. And the more righteous and faithful the intercessor is, the more powerful the prayer. BUT THAT IS PRAYER ON EARTH. I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT PEOPLE IN HEAVEN CAN NEITHER SEE US OR PRAY FOR US. That is a recent, man-made doctrine, with no authority behind it. Hebrews 12.1 speaks of "a great cloud of witnesses" who surround us, and who consist of the faithful holy ones of God. Many examples of these witnesses are given in the preceding Chapter 11 of Hebrews. Later in the Bible we see this vision of heaven: Revelation 4.4: Surrounding the throne were twenty four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads. Revelation 5.8: ...and the twenty four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. Seeking Mary's intercession probably dates back to the earliest Christians. One of the oldest Christian prayers recorded in writing, the Sub Tuum, from the 200s AD, is a prayer to Mary: We fly to your patronage, O holy Mother of God. Despise not our petitions in our necessities, But deliver us from all dangers, O ever-glorious and Blessed Virgin! BUT I DON'T NEED MARY WHEN I CAN GO DIRECTLY TO GOD. Why not say "I don't need the rest of my family as long as I have my father"? The Church is a single body; the different members interelate and rely on one another: "The eye cannot say unto the hand, "I don't need you!" And the head cannot say to the feet, "I don't need you!" (I Co 12:21). St. Irenaeus Against Heresies (circa 189 A.D.) : ..the virgin Eve, betrothed to a man but nevertheless still a virgin, was unhappily led astray,-- yet that deception was done away with because the Virgin Mary, betrothed to a man but nevertheless still a virgin, heard the truth spoken by an angel, and was obedient. For just as the former was led astray by the word of an angel, so that she fled from God when she had transgressed His word; so did the latter, by an angelic communication receive the glad tidings that she should sustain (portaret) God, being obedient to His word. The former disobeyed God, yet the latter was persuaded to be obedient to God, so that the Virgin Mary might become patroness (advocata) of the virgin Eve. And thus, as the human race fell into bondage to death by means of a virgin, so is it rescued by a virgin; virginal disobedience having been balanced in the opposite scale by virginal obedience. In the same way the sin of the first created man (protoplasti) is made amends by the correction of the First-begotten, the coming of the serpent is conquered by the harmlessness of the dove, those bonds being unloosed by which we had been fast bound to death.😆😆
@@bibleman8010 The Catholics took the second commandment to not make any graven image of things in heaven, earth or hell and removed it from the 10 commandments. They then took the commandment to not covet your neighbors wife nor possessions and broke it up into 2 to make 10 commandments; "Thou shalt not commit Adultery" and ""Thou shalt not steal". Praying to Mary and Saints, you risk going to Hell. I Corinthians 6:9 says so. Idolatry is a sin that takes you to hell. I am not against Intercessory prayer, I am against fanaticism. It is the prayer of FAITH in James 5:15 that heals the sick, and it is DOUBT that prevents God from healing in Mark 5:5-6. There are different kinds of prayer in the New Testament (Matthew 18:18-20, Ephesians 6:18) and repetitive prayer is the only one that Jesus mentioned is vain, but that is the only one that 98% of believers know. Why not pray Ephesians 1:16-23 and Ephesians 3:14-21 instead of man-made vain prayers? Matthew 6:7 says not to use vain repetitions. A Catholic neighbor told me that in 71 years of being a Catholic, she had never seen a miracle. My Aunt said that she prayed to Mary for 60 years and where did it get her? With tears in her eyes she said 22 operations and now she does not believe in God. Crying, she said, "I had my first operation at age 21." My Mother prayed to the father in the name of Jesus according to John 16:23 and had zero operations. She was miraculously healed in 1977 and 2016. I am convinced that Praying to Mary is praying to the devil. 2 Corinthians says that Satan transforms himself like an angel of Light. Several Mexican me told me that they DO NOT believe in Jesus, that they believe in the VIrgin of Guadalupe, that SHE appeared to the Poor and that SHE loves the poor. That is fanaticism for sure. You must believe the Bible, not Philosophy to receive When Churches beg God over and over again (which does not work because in Matthew 6:7 Jesus said not to use vain repetitions), they fall back onto philosophy to explain why God does not heal. Catholic, Methodist, Lutheran, Episcopal, Nazarene, Baptist, Presbyterian, and Orthodox teach the following: I used to believe: 1. God is Sovereign. 2. God is all powerful 3. God is in control 4. God can do whatever he wants 5. God has a purpose, a plan and a time for everything, 6. God knows what you are suffering 7. God will heal you in his time. This is HOPE, not FAITH. You are hoping in God 7 times. Jesus said all things were possible to him who believes, not him who hopes (Mark 9:23). Mark 11:24 says in the original to believe you ALREADY received. And Matthew 6:7 says the repetitions are vain. The received has an epsilon in front of it which means it is past tense. Most translations translate it to present or future, but this is a gross mistake. In Mark 6:5-6 Jesus WANTED to heal the blind, deaf, paralyzed but COULD'T because of their unbelief. James 1:6-7 says not to think that you will receive if you doubt. Jesus never said, 1. Go to the doctor 2. What did the doctor say? 3. It is not God's will to heal you 4. Wait 5. God has a purpose in this sickness. 6. God know's what you are suffering. 7. God has a purpose and a plan and a time for everything. 8. In His time, God will heal you. 9. You don't have faith but I will heal you anyway. 10. God knows what He is doing. 11. You cannot lose your healing. 12. God will give you faith if He wants you to be healed. 13. God doesn't heal today. 14. Only I and the Apostles can heal. 15. Cannot say that sickness is of the Devil. 16. Can't tell people they don't have faith. 17. Your healing will be instant. 18. God can do whatever He wants. 19. What did the Doctor prescribe? 20. Sickness will make you stronger. 21. You will learn through this sickness. My Aunt said that she prayed to Mary for 60 years and where did it get her? With tears in her eyes she said 22 operations and now she does not believe in God. Crying, she said, "I had my first operation at age 21." In the Original Greek in Mark 11:24, Jesus commands His apostles to believe that they already received when they pray. In 2016, six specialists told my mother that she needed a pacemaker. She was so weak that she could only walk 20 feet in 10 minutes, and then had to sit down and rest. I shared Mark 11:24 with my mother. We prayed in the name of Jesus and then my mother praised God that she was already healed. The next day she walked a mile to go get her groceries, completely normal. She never did need a pacemaker. Just days before, she was so weak that she was hospitalized for 10 days. My neighbor was sent home to die because he was so low on the list for a kidney transplant. He was bedridden. The doctors told the wife that in 2 to 3 days he would be dead. We prayed the same way and he rose up completely normal the next day. He stood out in the front yard and stopped all the neighbors and told them what happened. I could go on and on for hours telling you about several neighbors and several relatives that received this way. God confirms His Word with signs (Mark 16:20), the problem is that too many are using vain repetitions which Jesus said were vain in Matthew 6:7. Also it is the prayer of FAITH that heals the sick in James 5:15, not just prayer. Faith is based on the Bible. Since 99% of Churches do NOT teach on healing, 99% of Churches cannot pray the prayer of Faith to receive healing. Look up James 5:15, it is the prayer of FAITH that heals, not the prayer of repetition. In Matthew 9:2, it was THEIR faith, in Matthew 9:22, it was HER faith, and in Matthew 9:29, it was THEIR faith that caused them to receive. That 3 times in only 1 chapter. In Acts 14:7-10 it was the mans faith that healed him, not Paul's faith. My mother sang in Church in Greek prior to coming to the US. I took 2 years of Greek at my Catholic University just so that I could prove the difference between Hoping and Believing. I even told my Greek professor and read to her Mark 11:24 in the original. She and a Greek man in Church and 2 other Greek's from work told me that I am correct in my interpretation. You must believe that you already received prior to receiving. You must believe the Bible, not Philosophy to receive.
@@MrAlanKendall You: The Catholics took the second commandment to not make any graven image of things in heaven, earth or hell and removed it from the 10 commandments. Me: That is a lie. Are you aware that liars do not enter Heaven? You: Praying to Mary and Saints, you risk going to Hell. I Corinthians 6:9 says so. Me: It says nothing of the sort!
Ex catholic , born again believer in the death burial and resurrection of my lord and saviour Jesus the Christ. I have witnessed to my whole family , and watched them come to faith in Jesus one by one . Praise God. I love Jesus, I want to thank him on my knees before him. He loves me ,He loves you, more than you can ever comprehend. Come Lord Jesus, come quickly, thy will be done.....
Of all the religions, God has favoured Catholic Christianity, more than all others, with His presence and manifestations in the past 2,000 years. Catholics have been favoured with Eucharistic Miracles- like the 1996 Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires, Argentina & in Lanciano, Italy in the 8th C In Acts 2:27 - we read - For God will not allow His Holy one to undergo corruption. Likewise, God has clothed with incorruptibility the corpses of Catholic saints who have led a holy life in conformity with Jesus. The 500 year incorrupt corpse of St. Francis Xavier, which resides in Goa, India, is one example. Fr. Albert Hebert has compiled a list of over 400 resurrections of people who died but were raised to life by many Catholic saints. His book - Raised from the Dead - is available in book-stores. Jesus, our Living God, has appeared to many saints. In the 14th C, Jesus appeared to St. Bridget of Sweden who was much desirous of knowing about his agony He endured on the Way to Calvary - in other words, His Passion & Death. For a whole year Jesus taught her 15 Prayers and attached Promises to anyone who repeats these Prayers continuously for a year - the 1st Promise being - Jesus will deliver 15 souls of his/her lineage from Purgatory. ( Note - you can check the Internet under - The 15 Prayers of St. Bridget - and also view the Promises. ) And in the 1930's, not yet a hundred years ago, Jesus appeared to a Polish Nun, Sr. Faustina, and taught her the following prayer - Eternal Father, I offer you the Body & Blood, Soul & Divinity of your dearly Beloved Son, our Lord Jesus Christ. In atonement for our sins and those of the whole world. For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and the whole world. - This is in line with The Lord's Prayer which is pluralistic with the words - Our, Us, We, etc. And in 1995, Jesus appeared to a Nigerian named Barnabas and gave him the Devotion to His Precious Blood - ( continued )
Protestantism is not so much a Religion as a Religious Philosophy. It is a belief in Christ, to be sure, but then it remains a hearer and not doer of The Word, thus deceiving themselves - James 1:22. There is no substance or forms of worship and thanksgiving to Jesus God and Saviour for His work of Creation and Redemption. Catholics, on the other hand, believe in the Real - John 6:53-58 - Presence of Jesus in Holy Communion -Eucharist which is the Greek word for Thanksgiving. The Mass is truly both a form of Worship and Thanksgiving. Other forms include Eucharistic Adorations, Benedictions, Eucharistic Processions, etc. Protestantism does not take account that the same Jesus issued Commandments - not suggestions - for which there are penalties for non-compliance. It ignores that God - tests - each and every person with consequences in not fulfilling these tests or running away like Jonah It bypasses that humans are still under the influence of our Fallen Natures whereby we sin - even mortally - 1John 5:16-17 - and do works of the flesh that would disqualify us from Heaven - Galatians 5:19-21. On the way to Calvary, Jesus cautioned the women of Jerusalem - Luke 23:28-31 - to weep for themselves and their children for forthcoming days of great sorrow. As God, Jesus foreknew the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 AD, which was not only the result of the Jews not acknowledging the time of the Visitation of their Messiah, Jesus, but also because of their sins, especially of their hypocritical leaders - the Scribes, Chief Priests and Pharisees Thus for Protestants to believe that - all - sins are eternally forgiven and covered by the precious Blood of Jesus is false. Other examples that God still hates sin was the "execution" of Ananias and Sapphira for dishonesty and lying- Acts 5. And Jesus' threatened spewing out and vomiting of the lukewarm Laodicean church - Rev 3 John 21:25 states that Jesus did many other things which the written word is incapable of recording. As a result 2 traditions ensued - oral and written - 2 Thess. 2:15 - which are of equal merit. By "Sola Scriptura" Protestants are only receiving part of Divine Truth thus resulting in so many denominations. The Catholic Church was founded on Peter's rock-solid declaration of Jesus' Divinity - Matt. 16:16 and Jesus' promise - Matt 16:17-19- and holds to both traditions. It is the Church of the Living God and the Pillar and Bulwark of Truth - 1 Timothy 3:15 Many Catholic churches have side chapels, some even open 24/7, whereby the Holy Eucharist is exposed for veneration/worship. They are open to the public - even non-Catholics. I really hope that you will make use of these to worship and adore our Living God. God IS Living and has manifested His Presence through many Eucharistic Miracles - check the Internet for details of the 1996 miracle in Buenos Aires and the 8th Century one in Lanciano, Italy.
@@margaretlobo9466 i will pray for you. By grace are you saved thru faith, not of works. Read your bible....read the letters paul wrote to the gentiles, that would be me and you i assume. All the other apostles went to the jews. Slightly different gospel , the gospel of grace not works is what paul preached. The gospel of the kingdom is what the other apostles preached to the jews. Gospel of the kingdom plus judaism is what the catholic church is all about. Works alone ,if you do enough might get you to heaven. What a concept... paul is your apostle if you are a gentile, (anyone but a jew), than you should read all pauls letters, then tell me you dont believe in salvation by grace thru-faith alone not of works,,, it is childlike faith, JESUS made it so easy for us to believe .....
@Turin21 *Bible teaches repentance. Not Penance:* 1. Repentance - change of heart. Not Penance - work to atone for sins or pay for sins. 2. Confess to God. 1 John 1:9. Not confess to R ct priest for absolving of sins. *Find me a verse that says penance in nt? You cant.* Mat 3:2 and saying, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!" Mat 3:8 Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance, Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. Mat 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach and to say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Mat 9:13 But go and learn what this means: 'I DESIRE MERCY AND NOT SACRIFICE.' For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance." Mat 11:20 Then He began to rebuke the cities in which most of His mighty works had been done, because they did not repent: Mat 11:21 "Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. Mat 12:41 The men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and indeed a greater than Jonah is here. Mar 1:4 John came baptizing in the wilderness and preaching a baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. Mar 1:15 and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel." Mar 2:17 When Jesus heard it, He said to them, "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance." Mar 6:12 So they went out and preached that people should repent. Luk 3:3 And he went into all the region around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of repentance for the remission of sins, Luk 3:8 Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance, and do not begin to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father.' For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones. Luk 5:32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance." Luk 10:13 "Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes. Luk 11:32 The men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and indeed a greater than Jonah is here. Luk 13:3 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish. Luk 13:5 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish." Luk 15:7 I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance. Luk 15:10 Likewise, I say to you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents." Luk 16:30 And he said, 'No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' Luk 17:3 Take heed to yourselves. If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. Luk 17:4 And if he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day returns to you, saying, 'I repent,' you shall forgive him." Luk 24:47 and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. Act 2:38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Act 3:19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, Act 5:31 Him God has exalted to His right hand to be Prince and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins. Act 8:22 Repent therefore of this your wickedness, and pray God if perhaps the thought of your heart may be forgiven you. Act 11:18 When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, "Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance to life." Act 13:24 after John had first preached, before His coming, the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel. Act 17:30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, Act 19:4 Then Paul said, "John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on Him who would come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus." Act 20:21 testifying to Jews, and also to Greeks, repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ. Act 26:20 but declared first to those in Damascus and in Jerusalem, and throughout all the region of Judea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance. Rom 2:4 Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance? 2Co 7:9 Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance. For you were made sorry in a godly manner, that you might suffer loss from us in nothing.
@Turin21 *You are wrong once again. Mat 16 never once said R Church inherited any authority of Peter. Not once. So where is your proof that it did happen? By empty claims?* *This is merely R Church's self claim. Not true in history and Scriptures.* you said But regardless Christ said (it's in the bible if you read it) "thou art Peter and upon this rock I ill build MY CHURCH" not churches! Jesus NEVER could have intended multiple "churches many with vastly different beliefs. Just think about it for a second. No matter how many foolish theories you have you can't get away from that verse. The bible can't contradict itself so you have to reconcile the whole bible and that's the Catholic teaching. You must come in line with the One Truth and not the Big L.
@Turin21 *If you claim otherwise, pls cite me what traditions of Pharisees or Moses did Jesus and Apostles appealed to as support for doctrines:* 1 2 3 *You cant.*
Awesome!👌 thank you for sharing. " You will know the truth and the truth will set you free..." ( John 8:32). In his Revelation the Apostle John wrote; " And I saw the woman dressed in purple and scarlet, she was sitting on the beast, holding a golden cup, drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. On her forehead were written blaspheme words..." ( Revelation 17:6). Also, the Apostle Paul wrote; " But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse..." (Galatians 1:8); ( 2 Corinthians 1:8). Let's give All the Glory to God and praise our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen 🙏
Stephen, a deacon in Jerusalem, was the first saint in Christ Jesus, who was martyred, condemned and stoned to death by religious Jewish ✡ pharisees, saducees and scribes...( Acts of the Apostle 7:8). Also, we should add the inquisitions which claimed the life of 50 million peoples and believers in Christ under Pope Innocent III ( 1198-1216), then under Pope Gregory IX (1233). Also to add to the blood of the saints the so called " Crusades " which claimed the life of at least two to six million peoples, under Pope Urban II, on November 27, 1095.
@@jackydebosard8297.............I have no proof of ' millions ' of deaths during the inquisitions or crusades but, there are the millions of abortions that continue even to today, with only the Catholic Church screaming for its end.
To mike teixeira. Hi mike, let's talk about serious spiritual issues and blasphemes. DO NOT WORSHIP THE IDOL Mary was highly favored by God and chosen as a human vessel for the fulfillment of God plan of Salvation for All. The virgin Mary was never intended as a human, to become a mediator between humans and God. ( Leviticus 26:1); ( Exodus 20:2-6); ( John 4:24). " There is only One God and One Mediator who can reconcile God the Father and humanity - the man Christ Jesus..." ( 1 Timothy 2:5); ( Luke 1:26-38); (Romans 8:26-27); ( Exodus 20:4-5); ( Matthew 12:46-50). Jesus replied; " The Scripture say, you must worship the Lord your God and serve only him..." (Luke 4:8); ( Luke 1:46-56); ( Luke 11:27-28). Also, please read Psalm 51:5 + Psalm 148:13 + Acts 4:12 +
@@jackydebosard8297......Au contraire !!! Mary is a proven intercessor..........see John 2: 1-11. She was told that Her Holy Son would inherit the throne of David in Luke 1: 32. In the Davidic reign, it was the mother who interceded for the people........see 1 Kings 2: 16-19. This is different than 1 Tim. 2: 5.
The Fulfillment of the Law 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
@Michael Speyrer *We are not talking about rites which came mostly after 1500s. We are talking about this C which was original Church of ROme founded in ad 300s; currently called R Catholic Church.* *Church of Rome in history was only a local church. Answer me. Since which year this local church became the Church or Universal Church?* you said The Catholic Church, again isn't only the Latin Rite, it is made up of 24 different parts, all of which agree with the entirety of the Orthodox World on the understanding of these texts and all have apostolic foundation, and they all disagree with you, as well as some protestant, non anti-Catholic scholars. This contradicts your premises.
J D. l believe what he is saying is if Traditions of a church No matter which church does Not Equal the scriptures then they have added or taken away from GOD'S(Word) Purposes For Man. Shalowm AMEN HalleluYahh.
@Connor Mickelson *Isnt this what R Church is doing. Inventing new doctrines outside Scriptures?* you said People can make docterines without doing the exact thing that the Bible says. You should try and learn about religions other than yours.
@Tom Rodgers *Why read that when it contradicts the Scriptures in every possible ways? Why not read the Bible itself?* you said Regards to predestination I would have go in detail the meaning. Read the Caticisum.
But you say, ‘If a man tells his father or his mother, “Whatever you would have gained from me is Corban”’ (that is, given to God) then you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or mother, thus making void the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.
@lex ora Yeah I didn't think so. That's ok, English is a very hard language. When you can read it and comprehend enough to make a response, feel free to talk to me. A response is simply responding to what a person says. I have been all to aware that when English is not your first language it's idiosyncrasies can go above your head. I do not converse with people who talk at me. It's literally pointless. reessayer. Vaya con Dios P.S. When your comprehension improves here is a good question to answer. Do you think that Christianity approves or rejects the breaking up of a marriage and selling the wife into slavery?
@lex ora Great, you agree with the Protestant/reformers on at least one thing that the Roman Catholic church shouldn't be doing. That would be selling their own Priests wives into slavery after dissolving the union. If you also get to have both elements at the Lords Supper feel free to thank the nearest protestant as at that time the wine/blood was considered too Holy for the non-priest to have. There are still places today where Roman Catholic priests administer only the bread to church goer. I could go on, some of the protestants stayed in the Roman Catholic church and corrected its doctrine internally in accordance to what the protestants were accusing. As a funny aside you would agree with the protestants on at least 75% of their complaints if you knew what they were. Most of the them were only concerning the RCC of violating their own bylaws, not doctrinal disputes. That is unless your ok with the RCC violating their own bylaws. You said "The Catholic church decides what us a valid marriage" "Only "God" decided what is a valid marriage" There fixed it for you. This was defined in writing in the OG OT to Moses and the Jews by God, not the Roman Catholic church. You can find this in Genesis and Expounded later by Moses and restated by the Apostle Paul. Hint it hasn't changed. The church has only one role, to agree with God.
@lex ora Your ignorance of the history of the Roman Catholic church simply amazes me. All I can say is keep working on your reading, you'll find it eventually. Assuming your looking for truth. At the moment it's clear that your not. Oh and I'm still not a protestant. It was clear to me that the protestants took too much of the false Roman dogma with them. They got rid of most of it, but it only takes a little poison to ruin a good thing. The good news is that the Roman Catholics church also purged much of the poison too. Now they only have a little left, unfortunately it's also central to their doctrines. Well seeing as how you are a clear bad faith interlocutor I wont be wasting my time responding to any more of your personal opinions. It's litterally history you can go read it for yourself. Vaya con Dios.
@Connor Mickelson *WHy dont you compare what is in R Church's decor with what the Bible says? Is that really still decor?* Carved image = statues! Deu 4:16 lest you act corruptly and make for yourselves a carved image in the form of any figure: the likeness of male or female, Exo 20:4 "You shall not make for yourself a carved image-any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; Exo 23:24 You shall not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do according to their works; but you shall utterly overthrow them and completely break down their sacred pillars. Lev 26:1 'You shall not make idols for yourselves; neither a carved image nor a sacred pillar shall you rear up for yourselves; nor shall you set up an engraved stone in your land, to bow down to it; for I am the LORD your God. Deu 4:23 Take heed to yourselves, lest you forget the covenant of the LORD your God which He made with you, and make for yourselves a carved image in the form of anything which the LORD your God has forbidden you. Deu 4:25 "When you beget children and grandchildren and have grown old in the land, and act corruptly and make a carved image in the form of anything, and do evil in the sight of the LORD your God to provoke Him to anger, Deu 5:8 'You shall not make for yourself a carved image-any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; Deu 27:15 'Cursed is the one who makes a carved or molded image, an abomination to the LORD, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and sets it up in secret.' "And all the people shall answer and say, 'Amen!' Hebrew word for worship: shâchâh shaw-khaw' A primitive root; to depress, that is, prostrate (especially reflexively in homage to royalty or God): - bow (self) down, crouch, fall down (flat), humbly beseech, do (make) obeisance, do reverence, make to stoop, worship. Greek word for worship: προσκυνέω proskuneō pros-koo-neh'-o From G4314 and probably a derivative of G2965 (meaning to kiss, like a dog licking his master’s hand); to fawn or crouch to, that is, (literally or figuratively) prostrate oneself in homage (do reverence to, adore): - worship. you said We do not worship the statues they are only used as a decoration in our churches
My boss is Catholic and I wouldn't like to call myself Protestant just somebody who drives their best to read the Bible and follow that alone and I try not to read any bias out of the Bible this means that there are things in the Bible that I might not like to have believed but I have to in order to follow Jesus Christ, so my boss's Catholic and I was talking to him about the Bible and he says I'm not really into that I'm more about the traditions and I thought it was interesting that the Bible said in Jesus said do not let your dishes get in the way of the word of God and he doesn't read the word of God he only goes by the traditions
@@margaretlobo9466 John 21:25 does not say the scriptures are insufficient , it says that there are more things that Jesus did that are not recorded, that is not insufficient at all. 2 Tim 3:15-17 Paul tells Timothy that EVERYTHING he needs to be thoroughly equipped is in the scriptures ( old testament ) and that is what the early church had. Moreover, Paul confirms below that the ( Catholic ) Church is the Pillar and ground of Truth. This is because the Church is the Body of Christ Yes the church is the body of Christ but lets not designate it by a name that Jesus Himself never gave it. What does Jesus call His church? Matthew 16:18
@@margaretlobo9466 The Sola Scriptura - Scripture Alone - of Protestantism is not in the Bible. You are correct there is no verse that says scripture only , however we do see that the majority of doctrines are either stated or by example. The example set by Jesus and the apostles was to quote scripture as proof. 3 Proofs First - In 2 Timothy 3:16-17 we read that Scripture is given to equip us for - Every - Good Work 16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. So what part of thoroughly means you need more? Second - Matt. 7. [21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. What is the Father's will ?? Matthew chapter 6 states that the Father who sees in secret will - reward - Prayers, Fasting, Almsgiving and Good Works. Obviously, the Father rewards us for carrying out His will in the above actions which shows our Love for God and Neighbour, as Jesus commanded - not suggested. Here - Love - is a verb or action word. This last statement has absolutely nothing to do with scripture alone being not good enough! Third - Because we are responsible for all sins after Baptism, Jesus on the very day of His Resurrection from the dead, breathed His Spirit and - empowered - all the Apostles to forgive - or retain - Sins - John 20:22-23. This breathing was the same as the Breath that gave the life-force to the earth-created Adam - Genesis 2:7. Yes ,we are responsible to confess our sins as believers , but we confess those sins to the one who will cleanse us of ALL unrighteousness not to someone standing in for Christ who has no power to forgive sins . 1 John 1:9 God in his justice uses “the blood of Jesus his Son [to cleanse] us from all sin” (1 John 1:7). Sin does not go unpunished. God’s Son took the punishment for us. That is the only way this forgiveness, this cleansing, is just. The debt has been paid. Not only do we get to bring the pain of our sin to God, but we get to bring our sinned-against pain to God. He leaves no debt unpaid. He not only provides forgiveness to each and every one of us, but he provides the grace for us to forgive one another. Therefore Catholics confess to their Priests, as Apostles don't live forever. Confession thus restores the Life-Force to souls deadened by sin, especially Deadly ( Mortal ) sins - This is where the truth gets blurred as Jesus died for ALL of your sins and if you read Eph 2:1-8 you will see that being born again which is a must have, just like repentance , that God has placed your spirit ( born again part of you ) with Jesus in the heavenly realm with Jesus . Your spirit does not and is not capable of sin. Your flesh is what we live in and is gradually changed by the renewing of our minds by the Holy Spirit who not only seals us to the day of redemption but carries on His renewing of your flesh till the day you pass on. Amazingly enough there is no verse that even hints that you can lose your God given gift of salvation , or that the Holy Spirit will remove His seal upon the believer for any reason or that God will remove your spirit from the heavenly realm with Jesus for any sin. Why ?because when we repent Jesus forgives ALL of our sins past, present, and future . This is not what you have been taught . You have been taught to listen to the roman Catholic church and lean not to personal interpretation as found in 2 Peter 1:20 but read the context and you find that verse 20 is with ,not separate from, verse 21 which explains what is being talked about. James 5:16-17. Protestants don't confess and thereby retain their sins. 16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective. Therefore confess your sins one to another for Forgiveness? No it clearly says you and I are to confess our sins to each other for healing not forgiveness of sins. It also claims that the righteous mans prayer is powerful and effective . When we become believers and confess our sins to God 1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” So if we are cleansed from ALL unrighteousness what are we left with? That's right we now have the righteousness of Christ and can pray effectively. And because we still retain our Fallen Natures, Jesus has given us His Flesh to eat and Blood to drink as - Real Food and Drink - for Eternal Life - John 6:53-58. Yes this sounds good but the Passover meal that Jesus had on the last night of His life where He said do this in remembrance of Me , did not have a single glass of wine but four of them, and the host otherwise known as Matzo was a special wafer not a cracker. Matzah or matzo is an unleavened flatbread that is part of Jewish cuisine and forms an integral element of the Passover festival So take another look at 1 Corinthians 11 ;20-27 and you see why there is an admonition in verse 27 . Context makes this verse 27 clear . (Ephesians 2:10) For we are God's handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. Eph 2:9 tells us that nothing we do is good enough and verse 10 tells us that we were created to do the work of God. Not one verse in Ephecians tells us to work for salvation but several verses telling us that it is by grace and God's gift . Works has nothing to do with salvation. And James declared - Faith without works is dead -James 2:26). Lets have a look at James 1:1 who is James addressing? Hmmmn not the gentiles . James is telling the Jews that they have faith in God but that faith will not save the, ? Why ? Because the Jews had faith in God but did not accept Jesus as their messiah. Jesus addresses the Jews and tells them clearly John 6:27 Do not work for food that perishes, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on Him God the Father has placed His seal of approval.” 28T hen they inquired, “What must we do to perform the works of God?” 29 Jesus replied, “The work of God is this: to believe in the One He has sent.”… It is so much easier to grab a verse out of context and show all what you think it means By "Sola Scriptura" Protestants are only receiving part of Divine Truth. Catholics, on the other hand, hold the whole truth When you are taught the word but not the meaning you can come to the conclusion so many people make about scripture only. Sola Scriptura is saying that The New Testament is the Life and Teachings of Jesus and the original Apostles and the First Churches.. Sola Scriptura just points to THEM not just the Holy Spirit inspired Words, but the Holy Spirit inspired Authors/leaders and their Proven Authority as the true source to prove or test or Disprove future so called 'leaders' or future claims and teachings. Sola Scriptura means going all the way back directly to Jesus, John, Paul, James, Peter, Mark, Luke, Matthew, Moses, David, etc.. and going back to Their Lives, and Their preserved written teachings and traditions. Sola scriptura skips the questionable 'middle-men'.... thousands of years of Post New Testament groups and so called 'leaders' and takes you back to the first Source Leaders that were confirmed and are not questionable. This is the best way. Skip Luther and Skip the Vatican and just Learn the Truth Directly from Moses, David, Jesus, John, Paul, James, Peter, Etc... Please read the whole New Testament... you will find no popes, no cathedrals, no Statues, no Marian dogmas, no prayers to dead saints, No Vatican, No wafers, No fancy Robes, No Christian thrones. Please Follow Jesus and Him Alone. Since the Bible doesn't contradict itself, any interpretation of a specific passage that contradicts the general teaching of the Bible is to be rejected. Just remember that we ,you and I , have been told by someone else what the other believes and does. example -Denominational believers sit around in coffee shops swilling coffee and depend on a dead faith that does nothing for anyone ? Spiritual pride says we are better than them! John 14:6 excludes anyone other than Jesus! Thanks for your reply and be blessed by our savior Jesus.
➔ All of the following things that Protestants attack can be found in the Bible: Holy images are BIBLICAL and are not "Idols" .... ➔CARVED IMAGES IN THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD, INTERCESSION OF MARY AND THE SAINTS, HONOURING MARY, AND BOWING AS A SIGN OF HONOUR AND RESPECT (All copied from the protestant version of the bible by Cynthia X) Sacred Images are Biblical & mocking & destroying them is a serious sin, an act of blasphemy: ➨ SACRED IMAGES: Sacred images are not idols and it is an act of blasphemy to attack them: ● EXODUS 25:18-22 God commands Moses to make STATUES of Angels.
● NUMBERS 21:8-9 God commands another image to be made, a serpent. ● EZEKIEL 41:18-25 KJV ➔ EZEKIEL's VISION OF THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD ADORNED WITH CARVED IMAGES: ... 18 And it was made with CHERUBIMS (ANGELS) and PALM TREES, so that a palm tree was between a CHERUB and EVERY CHERUB HAD TWO FACES; 19 So that the FACE OF A MAN was toward the PALM TREE on the one side, and the FACE OF A LION toward the PALM TREE on the other side: it was made through all the house round about. 20 From the ground unto above the door were CHERUBIMS (ANGELS) and PALM TREES made, and on the wall of the temple. 21 The posts of the temple were squared, and the face of the sanctuary; the appearance of the one as the appearance of the other. 22 The altar of wood was three cubits high, and the length thereof two cubits; and the corners thereof, and the length thereof, and the walls thereof, were of wood: and he said unto me, This is the table that is before the Lord. 23 And the temple and the sanctuary had two doors. 24 And the doors had two LEAVES apiece, two turning leaves; two leaves for the one door, and two leaves for the other door. 25 And there were made on them, on the doors of the temple, CHERUBIMS and PALM TREES, like as were made upon the walls; and there were thick planks upon the face of the porch without. ➨ BOWING as a sign of honour / respect: ●1 KINGS 2:19 Solomon bows to his Mother. (he HONOURS Her) ● JOSHUA 7:6: 6 Joshua & the elders of Israel tore their clothing and lay prostrate (face down on the ground) before the Ark of the Lord. (an OBJECT) ➨ INTERCESSION OF MARY & THE SAINTS IN THE BIBLE ...INCLUDING BIBLICAL PROOF that SAINTS ARE NOT AMONG THE DEAD: The Protestant claim that we are forbidden to speak to / pray to Mary and the saints is NOWHERE in the Bible. In fact, the following scriptures were copied (by me) directly from the Protestant version of the Bible: ... ➨INTERCESSION of a holy person on our behalf: ● JOB 42:8 8 Now therefore take seven bulls and seven rams, and GO TO MY SERVANT JOB, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and MY SERVANT Job SHALL PRAY FOR YOU, FOR I WILL ACCEPT HIS PRAYER NOT TO DEAL WITH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR FOLLY; for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has. ➨INTERCESSION of MARY: JOHN 2:1 At the wedding feast at Cana, it was Mary who asked Jesus to help the wedding party. ➨INTERCESSION OF THE SAINTS: REV 5:8 The prayers of the Saints are offered to Jesus the lamb. ➨The KING Honours his mother's request: ● 1 KINGS 2:20: Then she said, “I have one small request to make of you; do not refuse me.” And the king said to her, “Make your request, my mother, for I will not refuse you.” (Jesus is the Greatest King and he also honours his mother's requests) SAINTS ALSO WORKED MIRACLES: ➨ JOHN 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. ➨ PAUL RAISES A MAN FROM THE DEAD: ● ACTS 20:7-12 9 And there sat in a window a certain young man named Eutychus, being fallen into a deep sleep: and as Paul was long preaching, he sunk down with sleep, and fell down from the third loft, and was taken up dead. 10 And Paul went down, and fell on him, and embracing him said, Trouble not yourselves; for his life is in him.20: ● MARK 6:12-13... 12 They went out and preached that people should repent. 13 They drove out many demons and anointed many sick people with oil and healed them. ● ACTS 19:12 The Handkerchief of Paul healed sick people: 12 so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them. ● ACTS 5:15 The shadow of Peter healed the sick: so that they brought the sick out into the streets and laid them on beds and couches, that at least the shadow of Peter passing by might fall on some of them. ➨SAINTS ARE NOT AMONG THE DEAD: AND THEIR INTERCESSION IS BIBLICAL: They share in the ressurrection of Jesus: (Protestants attack Biblical saints while they follow dead reformers) ● MATTHEW 27: 52 -53: When Jesus was raised from the dead Many were raised up with him. 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. ● LUKE 23 v 39-43...Jesus told the good thief "today you will be with me in paradise" ● REV 19 v 14...when Jesus returns he will be accompanied by his heavenly armies of saints. ● 2 COR 5 v 8...Paul tells us that to be absent with the body is to be with the Lord. ● JOHN 11 v 25-26...Jesus said I am the ressurrection and the life, he who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives, believing in me will never die. ● LUKE 1619-30 The story of the rich man and Lazarus show The Rich man, Lazarus and Abraham, all concious and interacting with each other even though they have physically died. ● LUKE 9:30-31 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias: 31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem. (Moses & Elijah were alive, and were yalking with Jesus) ● REV 6:10 The souls of the martyrs are before the throne of God, crying out for justice. (they are conscious and actively petitioning God) ● HEB 12:1-3 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, ● MATT 17:1-13 ...At the Transfiguration of Jesus, he is seen speaking to Moses and Elijah, further showing that Holy ones of God are not among the dead. ➨HONOURING MARY: LUKE 1:48: All generations will call Mary Blessed. We Catholics are the ones who call her the BLESSED Virgin Mary and treat her accordingly. RELICS OF THE SAINTSS ● 2 Kings 13:21 The Bones of Elijah revived a man: 21 And it came to pass, as they were burying a man, that, behold, they spied a band of men; and they cast the man into the sepulchre of Elisha: and when the man was let down, and touched the bones of Elisha, he revived, and stood up on his feet ● ACTS 19:12 The Handkerchief of Paul healed sick people: 12 so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them. ● ACTS 5:15 The shadow of Peter healed the sick: so that they brought the sick out into the streets and laid them on beds and couches, that at least the shadow of Peter passing by might fall on some of them. ● MARK 6:12-13... 12 They went out and preached that people should repent. 13 They drove out many demons and anointed many sick people with oil and healed them. (the use of oil, a material substance was used to heal people) ➨NOWHERE does the bible permit protestants (or anyone else) to Scrutinize & monitor the prayers of other people, nor to judge their sincerity or their salvation. Protestantism does not come from jesus. It began with Martin Luther in 1517 & exists Only to oppose the Catholic church which Jesus founded 15 centuries B4 the protestant revolt. They only know & accept the PARTS of the Bible that suit them and they do not have an accurate bible either.
@Turin21 *There were so many local canons by local churches. You didnt' know?* Clement of Rome mentioned at least eight New Testament books (AD 95). Ignatius of Antioch acknowledged about seven books (AD 115). Polycarp, a disciple of John the apostle, acknowledged 15 books (AD 108). Later, Irenaeus mentioned 21 books (AD 185). Hippolytus recognized 22 books (AD 170-235). The New Testament books receiving the most controversy were Hebrews, James, 2 Peter, 2 John, and 3 John. The first “canon” was the Muratorian Canon (AD 170). The Muratorian Canon included all of the 27 books except Hebrews, James, and 3 John. Eusebius of Caesarea (AD 320-330) recognized 22 books, 5 as doubtful. Cyril of Jerusalem (AD 350) recognised 27 books exclude Revelation include Gospel of Thomas. Council of Laodicea (AD 363) stated that only the Old Testament (along with one book of the Apocrypha) and 26 books of the New Testament (everything but Revelation) were canonical and to be read in the churches. Athanasius of Alexandria (AD 367) recognised 27 books as authoritative. Gregory of Nazianus (AD 390) recognised 27 books as authoritative. The Council of Hippo (AD 393-419) African canons affirmed 27 books as authoritative. Jerome (AD 394) recognised 27 books as authoritative. Augustine of Hippo (AD 395-400) affirmed 27 books as authoritative. The Council of Carthage (AD 397) affirmed 26 books as authoritative exclude Revelation. The Council of Carthage (AD 419) affirmed 27 books as authoritative.
@@wjm5972 *Bible does say Church (referring to all churches, not R Church) has certain authority to make decisions. The Church discovered the canon over centuries. Not R Church.* you said the canon itself is a product of tradition
@@godfridahkatentemuna3277 A gnostic heretic named Marcion made the first compilation that we know today as the Bible. The Catholic church only bothered with it after the fact.
@Robin L *1. Canon was finalised by all churches. Not R Church. So why would R Church have any authority? If you claim R Church had all authority, where did that authority come from? Self declared??* *2. You ask S questions. They worshipped Jesus as per normal. Apostles were still passing down knowledge then.* *3. 40k refers to all kinds of Christian groups, including JW, SDA, Christian science, Rcc, Orthos. Not referring to Christians only. You do not seem to know. 40k are just churches. Bible mentions churches. God loves churches. Why R Church does the opposite?* *4. Bible does not even mention pope or papacy or Primacy of rome. So where did you self made doctrines come from?*
And you Testament in property is do not add or take away From my words . Catholic Church has added and taken away if you look about not having any other gods they changed it and if you look at the the X books that's adding to God's word god forbids adding or taking away it's a serious offence.
Actually Luther removed books. The church which gave you 27 New Testament inspired books also gave you 46 Old Testament inspired books. If the 27 books are from God then so are the 46.
@@bridgefin that's a distraction that the Catholics use. Without getting into much details how does those 7 intertestament books add or take away from the New testament that clearly establishes Jesus as the source of Salvation, the author and finisher of my faith, My high priest whose throne of grace I have direct access to.
@@bridgefin Jesus said that heaven and earth will pass away but his words will never pass away. So I trust that Jesus used his faithful followers to preserve his new testament words. Were those followers members of the Catholic Church? For argument sake, let's say yes. 1. Does that make the Church on equal authority with God's word? Many Catholics seem to think so. But that is erroneous. 2. Does that make the Church infallible? Even more erroneous. God/Jesus used the Jews to preserve and pass on the old testament for thousands of years and what did they do? They became puffed up, made their TRADITIONS on equal par with Scriptures, Something that Jesus abhorred and rebuked, and yet still the Catholic Church has ran headlong into that same ERROR. On top of all that the Jews whom God used to preserve his word, rejected Jesus and placed him on the cross.
@@ronaldlatchman1268 You: Does that make the Church on equal authority with God's word? Many Catholics seem to think so. But that is erroneous. Me: Not the point. If God used the Catholic Church to reveal the canon of the 27 then why would you question God's authority when God gave us 46 books in the OT in the same document? If the 27 are God's then so are the 46. 2. Does that make the Church infallible? Even more erroneous. Me: Do you consider the list of 27 infallible? God/Jesus used the Jews to preserve and pass on the old testament for thousands of years and what did they do? They became puffed up, made their TRADITIONS on equal par with Scriptures, Me: What the Jews did not have was Jesus' promise to sent the spirit of truth to the leaders of the Catholic Church, the apostles, to be with them forever. When you accept what the Catholic Church teaches you are receiving Holy Spirit doctrine.
@Turin21 *Then how come 95% of R Church doctrines did not come from Scriptures or contradict Scriptures? Pls explain that. *95% of Rc doctrines are unheard of in 1st century and not from traditions of Jesus and Apostles or Scriptures or contradicts Scriptures! Nt Church of the Bible had not heard or practised any of these Rc doctrines.* 1. Purgatory 2. Confessing to priests 3. Office of pope or priests4. Pope being the vicar (representation of Christ, usurping the authority of God)5. Praying to Mary, saints6. Penance 7. Worshipping idols/images, placing idols images in church8. Church in the Bible is not building, but the body of believers9. Sacrament was never the real body and blood of Christ as RC church claimed (Real meaning real blood and body, bcos it didnt really turned "bloody" did it?)10. Salvation by (works (7sacraments) +faith) was never in the Bible. Real salvation is by grace through faith as seen in Bible. 11. Rosary, set repetitive prayers, hail Mary 10000 times12. Mass - putting Christ on the altar again and again13. Mary as queen of heaven 14. Mary as Ark of the new covenant. 15. Mary as the mother of heavenly Jesus thus Mary exist before Christ16. Immersion of infant for baptism17. Holy water18. Celibacy of priests (no office of priests in NT anyway, only priesthood of all believers)19. Kissing of statues20. Changing of 10 commandments. COmmandment of graven image removed by Catholic CHurch in Catholic Catechism. Splitting of another commandment into 2 commandments. 21. Catholic church changed Bible verse Gen 3:15 (And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel."). 'He' and 'His' referring to Christ. Catholics changed it to (Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; She shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise Her heel.") 'She' and 'Her' refers to Mary. 22. Catholic Church use Rev 12 to refer to Mary as 'queen of heaven', when Rev 12:6 clearly refers to Israel escaping the Great Tribulation. Mary cannot be alive to escape the Great Tribulation. 23. Catholic Church refers to Mary as 'Queen of heaven', but 'Queen of Mary' in the Bible is a demonic entity Astoreth or Ishtar, the female deity partner of Baal. 5 verses in Jeremiah as proof.24. Catholic church refers to Mary as the Mediatress, Co redemptress, helper of Christ, firstborn of all creation .. Mary cannot be the mediatress. Jesus is the one and only Mediator between God and man. Only Jesus redeems. Only the Holy Spirit is the Helper sent by Jesus. Only Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. 25. Roman Catholicism has “saints” one can pray to in order to gain a particular blessing. For example, Saint Gianna Beretta Molla is the patron saint of fertility. Francis of Assisi is the patron saint of animals. There are multiple patron saints of healing and comfort. Nowhere is even a hint of this taught in Scripture. Just as the Roman pantheon of gods had a god of love, a god of peace, a god of war, a god of strength, a god of wisdom, etc., so the Catholic Church has a saint who is “in charge” over each of these and many other categories. Many Roman cities had a god specific to the city, and the Catholic Church provided “patron saints” for cities as well.26. Mary is called the gate of heaven? Mary has keys to paradise? Here are roman pagan teachers saying their man made goddess is their savior. None of these quotes have been denounced, on the contrary they are cited. "Open to us, O Mary, the gate of Paradise, since you have its keys! " St. Ambrose "God has entrusted the keys and treasures of Heaven to Mary." St. Thomas Aquinas "No one can enter into Heaven except through Mary, as entering through a gate. " St. Bonaventure "Mary is called "The Gate of Heaven" because no one can enter Heaven but through her means." St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori Papal infallibility Immaculate Mary Assumption of Mary Perpetual Virgin Mary as Mother of God, co mediatrix, co redemptrix, new ark of covenant, Pope as vicar, Holy Water, papacy, peter as first pope, papal succession, apostolic succession, indulgences, 7 sacraments, rosary veneration of saints and statues celibacy of priesthood canonization of saints limbo you said The bible can't contradict itself
God set aside & made Holy Saturday, not Sunday, Catholic Church changed it to Sunday because they hated the Jews & wanted power over the Pagan Sun worshippers.Mary worship no where in the Bible is it stated she is to be elevated to Jesus the Saviour in fact she said in the Bible that she needs a Saviour.
@@heatherprice588 *Where in the Bible ever said “Gentile believers need to keep 7th day Sabbath as a law”? Where? I would love to see proof. Not claims.*
@@heatherprice588 I am not catholic, but every day is holy to God because He created it. Some people are not able to worship on Saturdays or Sundays for whatever reasons, so they worship on Mondays and other days. Jesus is the Lord of the sabbath. We find our rest/sabbath by putting our trust in Him.
@Andrew Drew *R Catholics love misquoting Scriptures. Heb 9:9 most certainly did not say "When you partake of the Eucharist you enter into the covenant". Which part says so?* you said When you partake of the Eucharist you enter into the covenant of the living God, Hebrews 9:9 9 which is a symbol for the present time. Accordingly both gifts and sacrifices are offered which cannot make the worshiper perfect in conscience,
@Men of Virtue *Still dodging .... R Church teach dodging? Where in the Bible says "Only R Church can interpret Scriptures" or "R Church is infallible interpreter"?*
@Andrew Drew *In the first place R Church bread was not blessed by Jesus personally too. So its also unconsecrated bread and un "transub" bread. So S enters all R Catholics isnt it?*
Of all the religions, God has favoured Catholic Christianity, more than all others, with His presence and manifestations in the past 2,000 years. Catholics have been favoured with Eucharistic Miracles- like the 1996 Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires, Argentina & in Lanciano, Italy in the 8th C - among many others. (( Note - Satanists will steal a consecrated " Catholic " Holy Communion host for use in their diabolical " Black Masses'' They will keep away from the communion hosts of near-Catholic Protestant denominations like the Anglicans, Methodists and the Lutherans precisely because these don't have the Presence of Jesus. ))
@@margaretlobo9466 *God did not favour r ctism. R Ct amasses it’s wealth but confiscating properties from true believers they claimed as cts. This is devilish behaviour.*
@@margaretlobo9466 *Rct does not have Real Presence. Only m m doctrines of Mass (sacrificing Jesus on the altar back to God) and transubstantiation (elements transforms into Jesus to be eaten by r Catholics)*
@@faithalone2171 YOU = R Ct amasses it’s wealth but confiscating properties from true believers they claimed as cts. This is devilish behaviour. ME = Why did the - Protestant - Pilgrims (and Puritans ) leave - Protestant - England and Europe for America = “Once they decided that the only way they could be true to their conscience was to leave the established church and secretly worship, they were hunted and persecuted, and many of them faced the loss of their homes and the loss of their livelihood,” says Donna Curtin, executive director of the Pilgrim Hall Museum in Plymouth, Massachusetts. “When it became impossible for them to continue in this way, they began to seek another place to live.” ME = What sort of behaviour is this ????
@Turin21 *I love your tales. Mat 22 was not only about Sadducees. It was also about Pharisees too. They did believe in the Old Testament. In the first place how does it disprove Scripture Alone? Lol* Mat 22:34 But when the Pharisees heard that He had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. you said Consider his dispute with the Sadducees in Matthew 22:23-33 over the resurrection of the body. The Sadducees, who accepted as inspired only the Pentateuch (the first five books of the Old Testament), didn’t believe in the resurrection of the body.
@Turin21 *You are still dodging.* *So which Ecumenical Council with bishops of all churches fixed the canon? Cite one? You can't?* 1 2 3 you said There were no other denominations or "churches" of other Christians with bishops at that time.
@Tom Rodgers *Bible does not say Scriptures came from the R Church. Neither R Church = the Church or Universal Church. History did not say so too. You are just making empty claims.* *Bible says Oracles of God - the Scriptures came through the Jews. Romans 3:1-2. Not R Catholics.* *Scriptures came by AD100s. Bible came much later by the decision of all churches. Not R Church.* you said Scripture was handed down to one Church the Catholic Church.
@Andrew Drew *Really? Where in John 6 says "The bread and wine become the body and blood transubstantiated by the energies of Holy Spirit."? Where? You are adding to Scriptures what it does not say?? Rev 22:18-19 is for you.* you said The bread and wine become the body and blood transubstantiated by the energies of Holy Spirit.
The eucharist is symbolic, for Jesus Himself forbids consumption of blood. To the Roman Catholic that believes the fruit juice and wafer turn into actual flesh and blood--after the minister mutters a meaningless phrase in Latin--does the wafer than tast like meat, and juice taste like blood? As an ex-catholic who took "communion" every week, I assure you the wafer did not change into flesh, nor did the fruit juice change to blood...not for me or anybody else that attended St. Mary's church, though Mary does not have a church. Only Jesus has a church. Good grief! How can they not see the falsehood of papal Rome?
@Michael *So which part says Philistines "touched" the Ark? If they did not touch how they die instantly?* you said The Philistines did not die instantly when they captured the Ark........did they ???
@Michael *You do not know there is such thing as a pole? or 4 poles that's connected to the Ark?* Exo 37:5 And he put the poles into the rings at the sides of the ark, to bear the ark.
@@Michael-nb4ng *Your guess is as good as mine. Speculation is Not a proof for doctrines. Where in the Bible says they touched the Ark?* you said ......So YOU think that the Philistines followed God's instructions in Exodus 25: 10-16 ??? See 1 Sam. 5, 6.
@Andrew Drew *We just did. Nowhere says Judas at unconsecrated or un transub bread. Nowhere says he left without eating blessed bread. You will have to prove your claims. Not me.* you said study all the accounts and you will work it out .
@Michael Speyrer *You claimed to have read the Bible and have a Masters but cannot answer?* *nt church of the Apostles did not have such practices. Answer me: did apostles make and bow down to statues? Did Apostles ask passed on saints to pray for them? Or sprinkle "holy" water on believers? Or wore fishhead hat and costumes? Or cite hocus pocus when they serve the communion? They merely broke bread and passed around the table. Did they demand believers to kneel in front of them to serve them communion? Or did Peter ask believers to kiss his hands and feet? Or did Apostles venerate statues, bones or relics?*
@Michael *Bible says all believers are saints. Dont you ever read the Bible cerebrumwashed R Catholic?* you said The apostles ARE the saints........our cloud of witnesses........see Hebrews 12: 1.
@Michael *I bet you dont even know there is no such thing as canonised R church saints in the Bible. In all the usages of the word "saint"in the Bible, saints always refer to general believers. Not some special class of r church believers who are so called "holy" or have had some "achievements"?* *Paul cant be talking about ministering to dead saints can he>?* Rom_15:25 But now I am going to Jerusalem to minister to the saints. Rom_15:26 For it pleased those from Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor among the saints who are in Jerusalem. Rom_15:31 that I may be delivered from those in Judea who do not believe, and that my service for Jerusalem may be acceptable to the saints, There you go: More verses. Rom_1:7 To all who are in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Rom_8:27 Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God. Rom_12:13 distributing to the needs of the saints, given to hospitality. Rom_16:2 that you may receive her in the Lord in a manner worthy of the saints, and assist her in whatever business she has need of you; for indeed she has been a helper of many and of myself also. Rom_16:15 Greet Philologus and Julia, Nereus and his sister, and Olympas, and all the saints who are with them. 1Co_1:2 To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all who in every place call on the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours: 1Co_6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? 1Co_6:2 Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints. 1Co_16:1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given orders to the churches of Galatia, so you must do also: 1Co_16:15 I urge you, brethren-you know the household of Stephanas, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and that they have devoted themselves to the ministry of the saints- 2Co_1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, To the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints who are in all Achaia: 2Co_8:4 imploring us with much urgency that we would receive the gift and the fellowship of the ministering to the saints. 2Co_9:1 Now concerning the ministering to the saints, it is superfluous for me to write to you; 2Co_9:12 For the administration of this service not only supplies the needs of the saints, but also is abounding through many thanksgivings to God, 2Co_13:13 All the saints greet you. Eph_1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, To the saints who are in Ephesus, and faithful in Christ Jesus: Eph_1:15 Therefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, Eph_1:18 the eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, Eph_2:19 Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God,
I was a Catholic but then I read my Bible, and I realized I had to leave the Catholic Church, and I had to join the Pentecostal Church ... the Baptist Church ... the Seventh-Day Adventists ... the Methodists ... the Church of Christ ... the ... Question - If I, a Catholic, leave the Catholic Church, which church should I join, and why?
The " church" you should join is JESUS' CHURCH. In the Bible church is the group of believers who follow & submit to Jesus as Lord, and as HE taught & approved in God's Word THE BIBLE. Look for a group of people who focus on God's Word every week & put Jesus'2 commandments ( LOVE THE LORD & YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF). Nothing else is mandatory, just God and His Word. (80% of Catholic teachings are outside the Bible & manmade, & 80% of Catholic salvation is human works & unbiblical beliefs). Choose manmade apostasy or TRUTH.
Come to the Lord my brother, and help us to spread the Gospel Christ, that's what i belong, thats where you belong, there is all believers belong; the Chruch of Christ which it's not in earth, but in the Lord. God bless you my brother💟
For the person that said which church you should leave, you should leave for a nondenominational church. Where did all these denominations come from? Anyway Jesus was not a denomination. He was a Christian or he was the head leader as what a Christian should be rather I should say. So anyone who follows the life of Jesus is a Christian is a simple gospel that we are saved by grace and Grace alone. God is three distinct personalities God, if we believe in the intangibles and the certain of the gospel, we are saved. Human beings have desire to want to create a religion, which is their way to finding God rather than the God that is, which is truth.
@Michael Speyrer *1. You havent proven its accepted by every branch. You merely claimed. 2. Accepted does not mean its truth. Bible says God's Word is truth. Jn **17:17**. So where in the Bible says that? You are telling me all these churches just pluck the doctrine from the air?* you said I already gave it to you. You rejected it even though its accepted by every single branch of the Church Catholic and Orthodox
@Daniel Hunt *Again tales. Where in the Bible says Jesus instituted a new clergy priesthood in NT? WHere? Chap verse?* you said Now, Jesus instituted His New Covenant priesthood for this purpose on earth.
When a pastor invests significant time in criticizing another faith, particularly the religion upon which Western Civilization was founded and the faith that played a crucial role in the formation of the Holy Bible, it raises questions. One may ponder whether the inspiration behind such sermons comes from the Holy Spirit or perhaps a different source. These discourses lack a spirit of generosity and seem more geared towards reinforcing a sense of satisfaction in embracing diluted doctrines while outright dismissing 2,000 years of Church history. It is somewhat astonishing to think that a genuine follower of Christ would overlook the rich history of their God. I often wonder why people who are possess by a demon often are sent to a Catholic priests for the Rite of Exorcism by their protestant pastors.
*If Scriptures is insufficient, why do you think Jesus, Apostles and NT Church all appealed to Scriptures only for doctrines. Not once they took from traditions of Moses or Pharisees? 180+ verses say so.* you said If scripture is theological sufficient,
@AJA Deacon *Faith Alone doctrine comes with Good Works too. Dont you know? Eph **2:10**, Gal **5:22**. You see how Catholics love to misrepresent Christian position?* you said yes that is exactly the Catholic position !! with regard to us needing faith then works
@cucomonga joe *Bible does say Church (referring to all churches, not R Church) has certain authority to make decisions. The Church discovered the canon over centuries. Not R Church.* you said the canon itself is a product of tradition
Scripture does not teach faith alone or scripture alone… We need to also obey gods law We cannot ever EARN heaven. We can only be granted mercy and grace,but it does not mean we can sin with abandon
@@MonstersOfTheUniverse *Of course Bible teaches Faith Alone doctrine (which is Salvation Not By Works). Salvation Not By Works is in two third of New Testament. Early writings also spoke of Salvation Not By Works. Augustine and Ambrose also translated Romans 3:28 as Faith Alone. Similarly many Old Catholic Bibles in 1400s.* Two third of NT says Salvation Not By Works. Luke 23:43 - the thief at the Cross believed in Jesus and he was in Paradise thereafter. NOT WORKS! John 1:29 - Christ the Lamb of GOD who takes away the sins of the world ... (NOT OUR WORKS) John 3:16 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Acts 16:30-31 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Rom 4. Vs 1-2 - justified NOT BY WORKS! Vs 3 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 4 - WORKS are debts . Vs 5 - he who DOES NOT WORK is JUSTIFIED . Vs 5 - God justifies the ungodly, Vs 5 - FAITH was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 6 - Blessedness Apart from WORKS! Imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH. Vs 8 - imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS apart from WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham was made RIGHTEOUS BY FAITH BEFORE ANY WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham received seal of RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH by imputation. NOT WORKS! Vs 11 - Promise to Abraham was through RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH. Vs 14-15 - Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation. Vs 22 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS . Vs 22 - RIGHTEOUSNESS imputed on those who believed. Not those who WORKS! Rom 11:6 - IF IT IS WORKS, IT’S NO LONGER GRACE . 2 Cor 5:21 - GOD made Jesus who knew no sin to become sin for us, that we might become the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. Gal 2:16 - not justified by WORKS OF THE LAW, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS. BY WORKS OF THE LAW, NO MAN IS JUSTIFIED! Gal 2:21 - if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law, then Christ died in vain. Gal 3:1-5 - Paul said Christians who started by faith, why end up following WORKS of law (not only Mosaic laws)? Are you made perfect by flesh (WORKS)? Gal 3:1-5 - Did God do miracles by your faith believing or by your WORKS of law? Eph 2:8-9 - saved by grace through faith NOT BY WORKS. Eph 2: 8-9 - salvation is a GIFT. NOT WORKS! 2 Tim 1:9 - saved NOT according to our WORKS. Titus 3:5 - saved NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. 1 Pet 2:24 - Christ (the Lamb of GOD) bore our sins … (NOT OUR WORKS). you said Scripture does not teach faith alone
@@MonstersOfTheUniverse ⭐ Where else speaks of Faith Alone doctrine? ⭐ 5 sources say Faith Alone doctrine is true. 1. Scriptures. 2. Early writings. 3. Early Roman writings. 4. Old Catholic BIBLEs. 5. Acts 15 overturns James' work based salvation. Ask for proof. Only modern R Church says its false.
@@MonstersOfTheUniverse ⭐ Was Luther the first to use Sola Fede? ⭐ The answer is No. - Early writings speak of Salvation Not By Works (Faith Alone doctrine) - like Polycarp, Clement of Rome, Irenaeus, Justin Martyr, Clement of Alexandria - Old Catholic Bibles speak of Sola Fede - Nuremberg Bible (1483), “allein durch den glauben” and the Italian Bibles of Geneva (1476) and Italian Bible of Venice (1538) all used Sola Fede in Romans 3:28 - Even Ambrose and Augustine translated Romans 3:28 as Sola Fede. ⭐ St. Augustine's commentary on James 2 Sola Fide. ⭐ And the scripture was fulfilled which says, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. - James 2:23 That Abraham believed God deep in his heart is a matter of faith alone, but that he took his son to sacrifice him . . . is not just a great act of faith but a great work as well. (Sermons 2.9) - Augustine of Hippo And the scripture was fulfilled which says, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. - James 2:23 Abraham is the image of someone who is justified by faith alone, since what he believed was credited to him as righteousness. But he is also approved because of his works, since he offered up his son Isaac on the altar. (Gen 22:10-18) Of course he did not do this work by itself; in doing it, he remained firmly anchored in his faith, believing that through Isaac his seed would be multiplied until it was as numerous as the stars - Oecumenius
@@MonstersOfTheUniverse ⭐ Did Luther defined Faith Alone the same way as James? ⭐ The answer is No. Luther used Faith Alone on Salvation. James used Faith Alone on Practical Christian Living. R Catholics are misrepresenting both parties. *Faith Alone doctrine encompasses:* Eph 2:8-9 - Salvation is Not By Works (⭐Salvation is By Faith Alone⭐ ) Eph 2:10 - Saved to do good works (⭐Practical Christian Living is By Works, Not By Faith Alone⭐ James 2, Gal 5:22, 1 Cor 13)
@Michael *Too bad. Mal **1:11** ‘s word for offering Minchah does not refer to communion. It refers to gifts, meal, donations.. and all bloodless offering. You were implying Jesus' sacrifice on the Cross was bloodless?* Minchah” translated as Meat/Meal Offering (H4503 - apportion, that is, bestow; a donation; euphemistically tribute; specifically a sacrificial offering. usually bloodless and voluntary: - gift, oblation, meat offering, present, sacrifice). BLOOD OFFERINGS mainly consisted of “Olah” translated as Burnt Offerings (H5930 - ascending, going up in smoke: - ascent, go up) “Shelem” translated as peace offering (H8002 - requital, that is, a sacrifice in thanks) “Chattath” translated as sin offering (H2403 - offence, and its penalty, occasion, sacrifice, or expiation; also an offender: - punishment of sin, purifying for sin, sinner). Both “Sin” and “Sin Offering” is called “Chattath” (Lev 4:3). “Asham” translated as Trespass offering (H817 - guilt; by implication a fault; also a sin offering: - guiltiness, offering for sin, trespass) you said ......Holy Communion is a bloodless sacrifice.........see Jesus's Words at the Last Supper
@Tom Rodgers *You are claiming these church fathers plucked doctrines from the air? God forbid so. Trinity doctrine came from God's Word. Though the word is not in the Bible, but the doctrine is.* you said Regards to trinity the word is not in the bible, but you go bible alone but the concept to it is. It was instituted by Tertullian 197AD.
@Deborah Sheldon *Did you get that from Cinderella or pachamama? Where in the Bible says R Church was started by Christ? Or where in history says Scriptures was written by R Catholics? Or Nt R Catholic?* you said The Catholic Church was started by Jesus Christ, the Bible is Catholic also, especially The New Testament is the word of the Catholic, Christian, prophets.
@@turin2197 *Jesus, Apostles and disciples all turned to the Scriptures when they taught. They did not rely on traditions of Moses or Pharisees for doctrines. They quoted Written Word / Scriptures around 150 times in NT. So Sola Scriptura is true!* Mat 2:5 So they said to him, "In Bethlehem of Judea, for thus it is written by the prophet: Mat 4:4 But He answered and said, "It is written, 'MAN SHALL NOT LIVE BY BREAD ALONE, BUT BY EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD.' " Mat 4:6 and said to Him, "If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written: 'HE SHALL GIVE HIS ANGELS CHARGE OVER YOU,' and, IN THEIR HANDS THEY SHALL BEAR YOU UP, LEST YOU DASH YOUR FOOT AGAINST A STONE.' " Mat 4:7 Jesus said to him, "It is written again, 'YOU SHALL NOT TEMPT THE LORD YOUR GOD.' " Mat 4:10 Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD, AND HIM ONLY YOU SHALL SERVE.' " Mat 11:10 For this is he of whom it is written: 'BEHOLD, I SEND MY MESSENGER BEFORE YOUR FACE, WHO WILL PREPARE YOUR WAY BEFORE YOU.' Mat 21:13 And He said to them, "It is written, 'MY HOUSE SHALL BE CALLED A HOUSE OF PRAYER,' but you have made it a 'DEN OF THIEVES.'" Mat 26:24 The Son of Man indeed goes just as it is written of Him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good for that man if he had not been born." Mat 26:31 Then Jesus said to them, "All of you will be made to stumble because of Me this night, for it is written: 'I WILL STRIKE THE SHEPHERD, AND THE SHEEP OF THE FLOCK WILL BE SCATTERED.' Mat 27:37 And they put up over His head the accusation written against Him: THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS. Mar 1:2 As it is written in the Prophets: "BEHOLD, I SEND MY MESSENGER BEFORE YOUR FACE, WHO WILL PREPARE YOUR WAY BEFORE YOU." Mar 7:6 He answered and said to them, "Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: 'THIS PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS, BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR FROM ME.
@@turin2197 *Even nt Church of the Bible (Apostles and elders) appealed to the Word of God for determination of doctrines in Acts 15. The council did not decide based on their own words; neither on traditions of Pharisees or Moses. They based their decisions on "WHAT GOD SAID". Yes they met at Jerusalem council Acts 15 to discuss. But they appeal to what God says. Using God's word to decide what to do!* *Bible says decision was made by Apostles and elders. Not single leader Peter!! (let alone pope). Acts 15:6, 16:4.* Act 15:6 Now the apostles and elders came together to consider this matter. Act 16:4 And as they went through the cities, they delivered to them the decrees to keep, which were determined by the apostles and elders at Jerusalem. *1. Peter appealed using what God told him:* to him rgd his vision of the clean and unclean animals in Acts 10.. That gentiles are accepted. Act 10:13 And a voice came to him, "Rise, Peter; kill and eat." Act 10:14 But Peter said, "Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean." Act 10:15 And a voice spoke to him again the second time, "What God has cleansed you must not call common." Act 15:7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. *2. James appealed using the Word of God:* Act 15:13 And after they had become silent, James answered, saying, "Men and brethren, listen to me: Act 15:14 Simon has declared how God at the first visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name. Act 15:15 And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written: Act 15:16 'AFTER THIS I WILL RETURN AND WILL REBUILD THE TABERNACLE OF DAVID, WHICH HAS FALLEN DOWN; I WILL REBUILD ITS RUINS, AND I WILL SET IT UP; Act 15:17 SO THAT THE REST OF MANKIND MAY SEEK THE LORD, EVEN ALL THE GENTILES WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME, SAYS THE LORD WHO DOES ALL THESE THINGS.' Act 15:18 "Known to God from eternity are all His works. Act 15:19 Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God, *3. Apostles Barnabas and Paul appealed to the “works of GOD done on the Gentiles”.* Act 15:12 Then all the multitude kept silent and listened to Barnabas and Paul declaring how many miracles and wonders God had worked through them among the Gentiles.
God bless you brother, your teaching could have said it all in five minutes,as a former Roman Catholic i discovered the Catholic church has framed the bible around their teaching, tradition, rather than framing the church and teaching around the bible.
You would not have the Bible today if it weren’t for the Catholic Church. Do your research first. Also without the magesterium you could come up with a gazillion different ways to interpret the Bible resulting in a gazillion different denominations. So if the Bible is filtered through each individual experience so in essence if there is no magesterium then there is no truth in the Bible resulting in relativism. Which is a heresy plain and simple.
@J Bad *Wow what a wonderful fairy tale. So where in the Bible says "full of grace = sinless" or "full of grace = leaves no room for sin"? Who invented this theory when the Bible does not say so?* you said Your at it again, Full of Grace leaves no room for sin. Basic math , I forgot , your a bit challenged with math , the 2/3 notion of Faith alone means 100% faith alone is nonsense . Basic math: Full ( 100%) of Grace = (0% )of Sin.
@Michael *Where in the Bible teaches allthesensofRCt: "faith + good works + partake R sacraments + submit to R pontiff + be in R Church + devote to Mary = to be saved?" Pls answer. Stop dodging Mike Teixeira.*
@@terryqueenjr.6700 *Of course it does. Implicitly. If Roman religion is really the Church of the Bible or the "one true church". Then why are 95% of RC doctrines and RC clergies not in the Bible? Mind boggling ... Lol* *nt Church of the Bible did not have Roman pontiff neither Roman priests, neither did Apostles pray to dead saints or Mary, neither did Apostles and Jesus make statues for Mary and saint .. Neither bow down to statues .. Neither Roman unholy water, neither sinless Mary, neither veneration of skulls bones tongues ... So where are all these man made doctrines of Rome in the Bible? Neither all the below man made doctrines! Wonder where they come from?* *There was never a Catholic Church in the Bible.* *There was never a R Catholic Church in the Bible.* *There was never a Catholic in the Bible.* *There was never a Roman Catholic in the Bible.* *There was never a R Church pope in the Bible.* *There was never a R Church priest in the Bible.* *There was never a R Church cardinal in the Bible.* *There was never a R Church sinless Mary in the Bible.* *There was never a R Church unholy water in the Bible.* *There was never a R Church penance in the Bible.* *There was never a R Church purgatory in the Bible.* *There was never a R Church canonised saint in the Bible.* *There was never an Nt believer who made or bow down to statues in the Bible.* *There was never an Nt believer who prays or received prayers from passed saints or Mary in the Bible.* *There was never an ecumenical council with bishops of all churches that decided the canon in history* *If you can find one example in the New Testament I will give you a lollipop.* *nt church of the Apostles did not have such practices. Answer me: did apostles make and bow down to statues? Did Apostles ask passed on saints to pray for them? Or sprinkle "holy" water on believers? Or wore fishhead hat and costumes? Or cite hocus pocus when they serve the communion? They merely broke bread and passed around the table. Did they demand believers to kneel in front of them to serve them communion? Or did Peter ask believers to kiss his hands and feet? Or did Apostles venerate statues, bones or relics?* *You do see clearly it all came from practices of believers after the Apostles - which Rcs claimed its from early writings. They had already deviated from the Apostles and Jesus. What Rcc called doctrines were merely partly traditions of errant believers + partly its own self traditions. Totally not from Jesus and Apostles at all.* you said It doesn’t say that anywhere in any Bible, Catholic system is false
@@terryqueenjr.6700 *Of course it does. If Roman Catholicism is truth or Church of the Bible, why was there not a single New Covenant believer saved in a Roman Catholic way in the whole Bible? Why is that so? Please explain coherently intelligently.* - submit to Roman pope to be saved - devote to Roman Mary to be saved - be in Roman Church to be saved - partake Roman sacraments to be saved - baptise in Roman baptism to be saved
@terryqueenjr.6700 *Of course it does. Implicitly. If Roman religion is really the Church of the Bible or the "one true church". Then why are 95% of RC doctrines and RC clergies not in the Bible? Mind boggling ... Lol* *nt Church of the Bible did not have Roman pontiff neither Roman priests, neither did Apostles pray to dead saints or Mary, neither did Apostles and Jesus make statues for Mary and saint .. Neither bow down to statues .. Neither Roman unholy water, neither sinless Mary, neither veneration of skulls bones tongues ... So where are all these man made doctrines of Rome in the Bible? Neither all the below man made doctrines! Wonder where they come from?* *There was never a Catholic Church in the Bible.* *There was never a R Catholic Church in the Bible.* *There was never a Catholic in the Bible.* *There was never a Roman Catholic in the Bible.* *There was never a R Church pope in the Bible.* *There was never a R Church priest in the Bible.* *There was never a R Church cardinal in the Bible.* *There was never a R Church sinless Mary in the Bible.* *There was never a R Church unholy water in the Bible.* *There was never a R Church penance in the Bible.* *There was never a R Church purgatory in the Bible.* *There was never a R Church canonised saint in the Bible.* *There was never an Nt believer who made or bow down to statues in the Bible.* *There was never an Nt believer who prays or received prayers from passed saints or Mary in the Bible.* *There was never an ecumenical council with bishops of all churches that decided the canon in history* *If you can find one example in the New Testament I will give you a lollipop.* *nt church of the Apostles did not have such practices. Answer me: did apostles make and bow down to statues? Did Apostles ask passed on saints to pray for them? Or sprinkle "holy" water on believers? Or wore fishhead hat and costumes? Or cite hocus pocus when they serve the communion? They merely broke bread and passed around the table. Did they demand believers to kneel in front of them to serve them communion? Or did Peter ask believers to kiss his hands and feet? Or did Apostles venerate statues, bones or relics?* *You do see clearly it all came from practices of believers after the Apostles - which Rcs claimed its from early writings. They had already deviated from the Apostles and Jesus. What Rcc called doctrines were merely partly traditions of errant believers + partly its own self traditions. Totally not from Jesus and Apostles at all.* you said It doesn’t say that anywhere in any Bible, Catholic system is false
@terryqueenjr.6700 *Of course it does. If Roman Catholicism is truth or Church of the Bible, why was there not a single New Covenant believer saved in a Roman Catholic way in the whole Bible? Why is that so? Please explain coherently intelligently.* - submit to Roman pope to be saved - devote to Roman Mary to be saved - be in Roman Church to be saved - partake Roman sacraments to be saved - baptise in Roman baptism to be saved
@Tom Rodgers *It was passed down through the Church. Bible does mention Church.* *Doctrine of Trinity is of course in the Bible. You do not know?* *Index? That's not a doctrine. Only doctrines aer in the Bible.* you said To answer your comments, yes the scriptures were inspired, but who told you they were inspired or true, no where in the Bible tells you that. How do you know. How do you know Mathew wrote Mathew or Luke, even other writing. How do you realy know they are true. Your theology class. The index of the bible. Some one had the truth where it came from. Do you believe in the trinity, its not in the Bible either.
@@Michael-nb4ng *You see how you love misquoting Scriptures? This is ot restitution. Not penance. Which part says Z atoned for his own sins? Or say Hail Mary 10000 times?* you said See Luke 19: 1-10.
@@Michael-nb4ng *What has OT restitution to do with your claims of Penance in New Covenant? Zacchaeus was under Mosaic Law. Are you under Mosaic Law?* *Restitution is restoring goods. Penance is atonement for sins. Where in the Bible teach penance?* Exo 22:3 If the sun has risen on him, there shall be guilt for his bloodshed. He should make full restitution; if he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft. Exo 22:5 "If a man causes a field or vineyard to be grazed, and lets loose his animal, and it feeds in another man's field, he shall make restitution from the best of his own field and the best of his own vineyard. Exo 22:6 "If fire breaks out and catches in thorns, so that stacked grain, standing grain, or the field is consumed, he who kindled the fire shall surely make restitution. Exo 22:12 But if, in fact, it is stolen from him, he shall make restitution to the owner of it. Lev 5:16 And he shall make restitution for the harm that he has done in regard to the holy thing, and shall add one-fifth to it and give it to the priest. So the priest shall make atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering, and it shall be forgiven him. Num 5:7 then he shall confess the sin which he has committed. He shall make restitution for his trespass in full, plus one-fifth of it, and give it to the one he has wronged. Num 5:8 But if the man has no relative to whom restitution may be made for the wrong, the restitution for the wrong must go to the LORD for the priest, in addition to the ram of the atonement with which atonement is made for him. you said ..........Zaccheus gave alms and paid back X4 that he had cheated; and Jesus declared ' salvation.'
@Michael *You see how you love misquoting Scriptures? This is ot restitution. Not penance. Which part says Z atoned for his own sins? Or say Hail Mary 10000 times?* you said See Luke 19: 1-10.
@Connor Mickelson *Two or more Scriptures saying the same teachings proves a doctrine. Unless they dont apply this. So how can it be different? In the first place Bible does allow differences in interpretations of Debatable Issues. Romans 14, Col 2.* Example: Verse 1 says you are an animal Verse 2 says you are an animal Doctrine = you are an animal. So tell me, how can there be other different interpretations? Scriptures speak for itself. Even if there are other issues, God appointed pastors and teachers to teach the Word of God. So how is that a problem? you said What don’t you get about people having different ways of interpreting the Bible.
@Tom Rodgers *2 or more Scriptures saying the same teachigns proves a doctrine. Not from someone on the pulpit. Even if they speak, they are trained theologically to speak. Unlike R priests who spend more time in philosophy than Scriptures.* you said You are counting on someone from the pulpit that tell you what is truth and your doing the same and basshing Catholics that you have no idea of its teaching only to your own interpretation.
@Andrew Drew *You are spinning. Bible does not say the bread was transubstantiated or not transubstantiated. Neither Judas eating consecrated or unconsecrated bread. Lol. You are saying Jesus touched unconsecrated stuff? You meant Jesus sinned?* Joh 13:18 "I do not speak concerning all of you. I know whom I have chosen; but that the Scripture may be fulfilled, 'HE WHO EATS BREAD WITH ME HAS LIFTED UP HIS HEEL AGAINST ME.' Joh 13:26 Jesus answered, "It is he to whom I shall give a piece of bread when I have dipped it." And having dipped the bread, He gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon. Joh 13:27 Now after the piece of bread, Satan entered him. Then Jesus said to him, "What you do, do quickly." Joh 13:28 But no one at the table knew for what reason He said this to him. Joh 13:29 For some thought, because Judas had the money box, that Jesus had said to him, "Buy those things we need for the feast," or that he should give something to the poor. Joh 13:30 Having received the piece of bread, he then went out immediately. And it was night. you said Judas ate unconcercrated bread in other words un transubstantiated bread which is what you eat and drink in your church cool-aide and crackers on your way out.
Yes !!! Jesus touched lepers/healed on the Sabbath/forgave a woman caught in adultry/ate with sinners/and hung on a tree for love of us. If He touched unconsecrated bread........then......so be it !!!
@Michael Speyrer *So cite me one nt Apostle who had asked passed on saints to pray for him. Just one:* 1 2 3 *You cant? Which saint prayed for which nt apostle?* you said -Yes, asking the intercession of the Martyrs has been done since the time of the Apostles. Evidence for this is found in the canons of the Mass that go back to the first century, and the names of the Martyrs of the Church of Rome, stating with Stephen and John the Baptist, the 12 Apostles, Mary, St. Michael the Archangel, St, Cecilia, Athatha, Perpetual and Felicity, as well as others have been honored mentioned by name since then. in Eucharistic prayer I the oldest that dates back to the 1st century.
@@Michael-nb4ng *Bible says all believers are saints. Dont you ever read the Bible cerebrumwashed R Catholic?* you said The apostles ARE the saints........our cloud of witnesses........see Hebrews 12: 1.
@@Michael-nb4ng *I bet you dont even know there is no such thing as canonised R church saints in the Bible. In all the usages of the word "saint"in the Bible, saints always refer to general believers. Not some special class of r church believers who are so called "holy" or have had some "achievements"?* *Paul cant be talking about ministering to dead saints can he>?* Rom_15:25 But now I am going to Jerusalem to minister to the saints. Rom_15:26 For it pleased those from Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor among the saints who are in Jerusalem. Rom_15:31 that I may be delivered from those in Judea who do not believe, and that my service for Jerusalem may be acceptable to the saints, There you go: More verses. Rom_1:7 To all who are in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Rom_8:27 Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God. Rom_12:13 distributing to the needs of the saints, given to hospitality. Rom_16:2 that you may receive her in the Lord in a manner worthy of the saints, and assist her in whatever business she has need of you; for indeed she has been a helper of many and of myself also. Rom_16:15 Greet Philologus and Julia, Nereus and his sister, and Olympas, and all the saints who are with them. 1Co_1:2 To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all who in every place call on the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours: 1Co_6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? 1Co_6:2 Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints. 1Co_16:1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given orders to the churches of Galatia, so you must do also: 1Co_16:15 I urge you, brethren-you know the household of Stephanas, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and that they have devoted themselves to the ministry of the saints- 2Co_1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, To the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints who are in all Achaia: 2Co_8:4 imploring us with much urgency that we would receive the gift and the fellowship of the ministering to the saints. 2Co_9:1 Now concerning the ministering to the saints, it is superfluous for me to write to you; 2Co_9:12 For the administration of this service not only supplies the needs of the saints, but also is abounding through many thanksgivings to God, 2Co_13:13 All the saints greet you. Eph_1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, To the saints who are in Ephesus, and faithful in Christ Jesus: Eph_1:15 Therefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, Eph_1:18 the eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, Eph_2:19 Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God,
Both Baptists and Roman-catholics keep Sunday as their day of rest and worship, something that is positively unbiblical, pagan, and a false doctrine. Why no Baptists add Sunday observance among the list? Neither Christ or His apostles endorsed or commanded the observance of Sunday. Jesus says "teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you" (Matthew 28.20), and Jesus commanded Sabbath observance both as an institution and as a commandment (Mark 2.27,28; Matthew 12.12; Matthew 24.20; Luke 13.10-16; Matthew 5.17-19; Luke 16.17; Matthew 19.16,17). Jesus and His apostles never commanded observance of Sunday by example or by any hint. Acts 20.7-12 is not a religious gathering, or a regular religious gathering or a religious gathering at all. 1Cor. 16.2 is not a religious service. Colossians 2.16 does not endorse Sunday observance and neither does 1Corinthians 15 which talks about the significance of resurrection of Christ (it doesn't mention Sunday or mandate Christians to celebrate Sunday. Christians celebrate Christ' death, not His resurrection -1Corinthians 11.26). The KRINO (esteem) of Romans 14.5 is not the antithesis of QADOSH (santify, keep holy) of Exodus 20.8. Context of Romans 14 is no about "the" Sabbath or distinction of clean or unclean meats as in Mark 7.19. Unclean animals were not considered as food by Jews, nor by gentile converts. And besides, Paul has no right nor authority to alter any of God's Ten Commandments and has no authority to make of no effect the Sabbath Commandment, and neither do any Christian. Both Roman-catholics and Baptists keep Sunday, so based on Sola Scriptura principle, Sunday observance has no Biblical, Sola Scriptura basis. It is Sola Roma, and by the authority of the Roman church alone. Baptists pay homage to Roman-catholicism despite themselves by their observance of Sunday. Repent, Baptists brethren. You are in error at this point. You are condemning the Roman-catholic church teachings but you are also believer what this church believes, for example, 1) SUNDAY OBSERVANCE (Unbiblical), 2) belief about IMMORTALITY OF SOUL (unbiblical), 3) EATING OF UNCLEAN ANIMALS (pagan, unbiblical), 4) CHRISTMAS on Dec 25 (unbiblical, unapostolic), 5) TRINITY (unbiblical, unapostolic, -Neither God nor Christ ever taught that a believer should think of God as trinity), 6) belief that Jesus' human nature is SINLESS (unbiblical, check out Romans 8.3,4; Hebrews 2.12-18; 4.14-16; Romans 9.5; Galatians 4.4), 7) observance of LENT (passover was lunar, not solar. It can began on Monday or any day of the week, not on Sunday only), 8) USE OF "REVEREND," "RIGHT REVEREND," "MOST REVEREND" for their clergymen. God alone is holy and "Reverend." "HOLY AND REVEREND IS HIS NAME" -Psalm 111.9; 9) USE OF CREEDS and Ostracizing as "heretics" or "cults" those who deviate from those man-made Creeds. This fulfills John 16.2,3. Both Roman-catholics and Protestants would kill or excommunicate anyone "heretic" for rejecting trinity or their creeds as if they are doing God service. The truth is, they do not know God nor Christ. Read again John 16.2,3 and reflect on your murderous practices with fellow Christians, like how John Calvin killed Michael Servetus for rejecting trinity. The Scriptures alone is our creed. The creeds of churches are not authoritative Christian document. Even the "Scriptures" Paul is taling about in 2Timothy 3.15-17 is not the New Testament, nor any of Paul's writings, but the Torah and the prophets. Profitable for doctrines is the Torah and the prophets. For example, tattooing one's body is forbidden (Leviticus 19.28), prostitution, witchcraft, eating unclean animals, blood, and animal fat (Leviticus 7.23-27; Leviticus 3.21), and other Laws. Curse is on those who "DO NOT" abide in the Law (Galatians 3.10). Read carefully. It God does nit say that a curse is on those who abide by the law, for God meant them to be blessed. blessings, not curse, are for those who obey and who walk in the Law of Yahweh, whose delight is in the Law (Psalm 119.1; Psalm 1.1-2). "Blessed are they that DO HIS COMMANDMENTS that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city" (Revelation 22.14; King James Version; See Revelation 12.17; 14.12). They are not cursed because they do the Law, but because they do not do it. God's character and way of salvation remains the same in both Old and New Testaments: Grace through faithfulness and obedience on the part of man.
Yessssss, the Bible says, if they do not speak according the the Law and testimony, it is because there is no light in them. And they are a liar. Amen from fellow Sabbath keeper.
@Michael *Still claims. Acts 2 does not even mention R Church. Let alone R Church following Peter.* you said ..........For 2,000 yrs. R Church has followed Peter at Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit came to the Church........see Acts 2.
@Michael *Still claims. Acts 2 does not even mention R Church. Let alone R Church following Peter.* you said ..........For 2,000 yrs. R Church has followed Peter at Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit came to the Church........see Acts 2.
Also when Paul was imprisoned in Rome, he mentioned all who attended to him, never mentioned Peter. If Peter was first pope, why was he not visited by Peter? Peter wasn't there!
@Michael *Sure... Jesus said "He is the temple or door". Did Jesus become physical temple or physical door?* *And it was so? Try harder Mike Teixeira who loves misquoting Scriptures.* you said ........Jesus said, " This is My Body/Blood." And it is so !!!
@purgatorean *Acts 2 Church was clearly not Roman Catholic Church was it? Lol* you said All Christians, Protestants and Catholics, agree that the Church that Christ said that He would build came into existence with the coming of the Holy Spirit on that Great Day of Pentecost in Acts chapter 2. Acts chapter 2 is the Biblical Blueprint for Sacramental Salvation, and ever since that Day of Pentecost,
Exactly true------51,000 different denominations of Protestants all diagreeing with each other on the same Bible is the result of reading the Bible without the Holy Spirit.
@Michael Speyrer *Proof texter. Nowhere in Rev 11 says this ark refers to Mary.* you said "Revelation 11:19, NIV: Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a severe hailstorm." And God's ark is with him in Heaven. Having been assumed there.
@@Michael-nb4ng *So according to your d logic, "followed by" means its must refer to Mary? So Mary must be the temple of God, thunder, lightning, noises, earthquake and other phenomena since Rev 11:19 is "followed by" Rev 12:1. Lol.* Rev 11:19 📝 Then the temple of God was opened in heaven, and the ark of His covenant was seen in His temple. And there were lightnings, noises, thunderings, an earthquake, and great hail. you said followed by Rev. 12: 1, " A sign was seen.....woman clothed with the sun, with the moon at Her feet........pregnant."
@colinlavelle7806 *If Roman Catholicism is truth or Church of the Bible, why was there not a single New Covenant believer saved in a Roman Catholic way in the whole Bible? Why is that so? Please explain coherently intelligently.* - submit to Roman pope to be saved - devote to Roman Mary to be saved - be in Roman Church to be saved - partake Roman sacraments to be saved - baptise in Roman baptism to be saved - do lots of works to be saved
@Michael *What has OT restitution to do with your claims of Penance in New Covenant? Zacchaeus was under Mosaic Law. Are you under Mosaic Law?* *Restitution is restoring goods. Penance is atonement for sins. Where in the Bible teaches penance?* Exo 22:3 If the sun has risen on him, there shall be guilt for his bloodshed. He should make full restitution; if he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft. Exo 22:5 "If a man causes a field or vineyard to be grazed, and lets loose his animal, and it feeds in another man's field, he shall make restitution from the best of his own field and the best of his own vineyard. Exo 22:6 "If fire breaks out and catches in thorns, so that stacked grain, standing grain, or the field is consumed, he who kindled the fire shall surely make restitution. Exo 22:12 But if, in fact, it is stolen from him, he shall make restitution to the owner of it. Lev 5:16 And he shall make restitution for the harm that he has done in regard to the holy thing, and shall add one-fifth to it and give it to the priest. So the priest shall make atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering, and it shall be forgiven him. Num 5:7 then he shall confess the sin which he has committed. He shall make restitution for his trespass in full, plus one-fifth of it, and give it to the one he has wronged. Num 5:8 But if the man has no relative to whom restitution may be made for the wrong, the restitution for the wrong must go to the LORD for the priest, in addition to the ram of the atonement with which atonement is made for him. you said ..........Zaccheus gave alms and paid back X4 that he had cheated; and Jesus declared ' salvation.'
@The Mysterious Cynthia X *Too bad. Those were just local councils with local canons affecting their own local communities. No canon was fixed for the whole of Christendom at all. They merely cited the 27 books canon.* *Cite me one ecumenical council with bishops of all churches that fixed the canon for all Christianity? Just one? You cant?* 1 2 3 you said The bible took a long time to write and compile. (Old testament was compiled and new Testament was written during the course of SEVERAL Catholic councils and the date I gave was the final stage)
@@jesusfaith2232 *This is one of the favourite claims of R Church - "R Church fixed the canon". They claimed since they fix it, they have all authority. Lolol. Sounds like some bullies taking over people's house, then claim its theirs then say they have all authority.*
@Andrew Drew *So when JEsus said "this is my body" it means changed of substance? Really? So when Jesus said "He is the temple or door" did Jesus transforms into a physical temple or physical door? You really think so? Who says it is physical? Did Jesus say this is my physical body? Read your Scriptures.* *You are spinning as it goes.* you said Jesus changed the substance during the last supper where he said “this IS my body “ This IS my blood . Did Jesus say this is my symbolic body?????? Read your scriptures.
@@Michael-nb4ng *Jesus said it was so? Sure. You are claiming Jesus actually became physical temple + physical door + physical gate. Lolol* you said .........To a catholic and even to the apostles, Jesus said it......and it was so !!! No apologies !!!
@Michael Speyrer *Where is that in the Bible? You concoct fairy tales faster than concorde? Which apostle sprinkled "holy" water on believers? Where? You love l ..s.* you said Yes Holy water has been used as a sacramental before even the Gospel of John was finished being written.*
Holy Water flowed from the side of Christ........see John 19: 34; and continues to flow as prophesied in Isaiah 44: 3. Like Holy oils, Holy Water is a sacred sign of Christ's love/mercy.
@@Michael-nb4ng *You f. Bible does not call that holy water. Where in the Bible says its holy water? Please dont misquote verses for ot temple in nt church. Cite me one apostle who sprinkled "holy" water on any believers? None? Yet you claimed its a biblical doctrine?* you said Holy Water flowed from the side of Christ........see John 19: 34; and continues to flow as prophesied in Isaiah 44: 3. Like Holy oils, Holy Water is a sacred sign of Christ's love/mercy.
@@Michael-nb4ng *You f. Are you telling me R Catholics are using the same water from Jesus' side? If not what are you blathering about? Cite me one apostle who used "holy" water. You cant. You are defending a m m doctrine.* you said ..Would ' unholy water ' and ' unholy ' blood flow from Jesus ???
@CSB Studios *Bible says Oracles of God was committed to the Jews. Romans 3:1-2. Jews said there are 39 books in ot. No Apo 7 books. So they are right. God is right. God is always right. R church is always wrong.* you said Where in scripture did Martin Luther have the authority to remove seven books from the scriptures?
@Turin21 *Too bad. You got that from Cinderella or wrote your own Bible? Where in the Bible says:* "Penance is a sacrament of the New Law instituted by Christ in which forgiveness of sins committed after baptism is granted through the priest’s absolution to those who with true sorrow confess their sins and promise to satisfy for the same."? *It is so clear you dont even read the Bible. Lol. Bible mentioned nothing about Penance or nt clergy priesthood which Bible says its already obsolete. Heb 7,9,10. So where did R Church priesthood come from? Lucy?* you said if you only knew 1/1,000,000 of what you purport to know about the Catholic faith you would know Penance is a sacrament of the New Law instituted by Christ in which forgiveness of sins committed after baptism is granted through the priest’s absolution to those who with true sorrow confess their sins and promise to satisfy for the same.
YOU = Excellent sermon exposing this dark, false religion. ME = If Catholicism is dark & false, why can not = any = Protestant take up my Challenge which I posted with = details = above and with the following heading : - @loboman8029 1 month ago CHALLENGE = Can = any = Protestant, including the author of this video, give the answer to this most = basic = and fundamental
Question = Why did Jesus incarnate as a Man and die on the Cross ?? (( Note = a review of the following points is necessary before answer )) NOTE = If YOU are not able to answer this most basic and necessary question, then your = only = hope of salvation is to become a Catholic. God bless
Jesus did not give us the Bible. The Church did. And you accept Catholic Scriptures but refuse Her interpretations of it. The Bible is the teachings of the Church and is only a guide to what the Church teaches
@@dennis1662 Jesus gave us the church and He gave us His written word. Oral tradition sounds good but oral changes over time and as it is not written down can not be verified as to it's truth over the centuries. Stick with the scriptures which are God's word to us and when you dispute anything use scriptures not what you heard or what you think the bible says. The Bible is the teachings of the Church and is only a guide to what the Church teaches reminds me of Homer Simpson telling his son that a speed limit is only a suggestion.
@Daniel Hunt *I dont need the Exact Word/Title of the doctrine. I only need Scriptures that speaks of the doctrine. Yes all doctrines of the faith are in the Scriptures. Bible does say Scriptures is sufficient for all doctrines of the faith.* *Romans 3:1-2 says Oracles of God come from the Jews. So yes it does say we rely on Scriptures of the Jews. Original Hebrew OT did not contain Apo 7 books. So God's Word is always right. Luther was right to return to 66 books.* you said You must consider Scripture as a whole. But you seem to require EXPLICIT statements for a doctrine to be true. Is this the case? Are all Christian doctrines found EXPLICITLY stated in the Bible (of the 66-book Protestant Canon)?
@Michael *Bible does not say anything persecuted is truth. Bible says God's Word is truth Jn **17:17**; which you have none.* you said .Like I said, YOU persecution of the RCC is proof that the RCC is the true Church;
Just keep Jesus in your heart……believe/have faith in Jesus and all he did! There is no one like the Lord and Savior of the World….Jesus! The Theme of the Bible is God’s Amazing Grace! Trust in the Lord with all your heart….don’t lean on your own understanding! You can join whatever religious club you want (catholic or whatever) go to church to get support from other believers!
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 EXODUS 20:11 Perhaps the Sabbath Commandment is void to the "gentiles" and their covetousness/murder shall reign free in the earth; as for me, the young family I lead in the name of the Yahusha our Messiah shall cleave onto the very clothes/house of Israel. Feel free to share inspiration as I do not own a physical Torah
@@BdDaBOMB Believers in Christ are a new creation, believers in Christ are no longer under the law, Believers in the new testament are never commanded to observe the sabbath, they are encouraged to enter the sabbath rest from all works. To observe the sabbath is far different than just making saturday the day you worship God.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 Although I do as the Messiah said and forgive, I do not believe in "christ" as such since it is a substitute. Also the Messiah stated his arrival was not to alter the law was but to fullfil. So to my understanding, which is in parts, *the commandments + the golden rule* is what we are to do to inherent everlasting life [look at the Messiah's reply to the lawyer in Luke for the detail] The Sabbath Commandment is something I shall remember and obey, another commenter revealed to me that the Sabbath is not on Saturday but rather on alternate days each month on the 8th, 15th, 22nd, 29th. Due to still learn I guide my rather young family to meditate, pray and sleep on the Sabbath... I hold more room to grow.
@Andrew Drew *You seemed to think in ot, when Israelites partook the lamb they all became deities - divine. Which part says so?* you said partaking of the @divine nature” is a better way of putting it. You know that the Jews actually ate the Lamb during Passover right consumed it . So Christ by the power of Holy Spirit changes the bread and wine into the body and blood that we partake of . Divine nature consumed into your body so you have both mental and physical attributes . We worship in mind and body not just mind this is the difference.
When the Israelites partook of the lamb = freedom from slavery........see Exodus 12& 13; and every firstborn male ( human of animal ) was consecrated to God........see Exodus 13: 1.
@Tom Rodgers *2 or more Scriptures saying the same teachings proves a doctrine. Luther did not make any new interpretations.* you said Then Martin Luther came with new interpretation.
@CSB Studios *DRB is a corrupted Bible that changes all the words "repentance" in NT into "penance". Penance is works. Repentance is change of heart.* 45 Verses Found, 48 Matches Mat 3:2 And saying: Do penance: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Mat 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruit worthy of penance. Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you in water unto penance, but he that shall come after me, is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you in the Holy Ghost and fire. Mat 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say: Do penance, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Mat 11:20 Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein were done the most of his miracles, for that they had not done penance. Mat 11:21 Woe thee, Corozain, woe to thee, Bethsaida: for if in Tyre and Sidon had been wrought the miracles that have been wrought in you, they had long ago done penance in sackcloth and ashes. Mat 12:41 The men of Ninive shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they did penance at the preaching of Jonas. And behold a greater than Jonas here. Mar 1:4 John was in the desert, baptizing and preaching the baptism of penance, unto remission of sins. Mar 6:12 And going forth they preached men should do penance: Luk 3:3 And he came into all the country about the Jordan, preaching the baptism of penance for the remission of sins. Luk 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of penance: and do not begin to say, We have Abraham for our father. For I say unto you that God is able of these stones, to raise up children to Abraham. Luk 5:32 I came not to call the just, but sinners to penance. Luk 10:13 Woe to thee, Corozain! Woe to thee, Bethsaida! For if in Tyre and Sidon had been wrought the mighty works that have been wrought in you, they would have done penance long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes. Luk 11:32 The men of Ninive shall rise in the judgment with this generation and shall condemn it; Because they did penance at the preaching of Jonas. And behold more than Jonas here. Luk 13:3 No, I say to you: but unless you shall do penance, you shall all likewise perish. Luk 13:5 No, I say to you: but except you do penance, you shall all likewise perish. Luk 15:7 I say to you that even so there shall be joy in heaven upon one sinner that doth penance, more than upon ninety-nine just who need not penance. Luk 15:10 So I say to you, there shall be joy before the angels of God upon one sinner doing penance. Luk 16:30 But he said: No, father Abraham: but if one went to them from the dead, they will do penance. Luk 17:3 Take heed to yourselves. If thy brother sin against thee, reprove him: and if he do penance, forgive him. Luk 24:47 And that penance and remission of sins should be preached in his name, unto all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. Act 2:38 But Peter said to them: Do penance: and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins. And you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Act 8:22 Do penance therefore for this thy wickedness: and pray to God, that perhaps this thought of thy heart may be forgiven thee. Act 13:24 John first preaching, before his coming, the baptism of penance to all the people of Israel. Act 17:30 And God indeed having winked at the times of this ignorance, now declareth unto men that all should every where do penance. Act 19:4 Then Paul said: John baptized the people with the baptism of penance saying: That they should believe in him, who was to come after him, that is to say, in Jesus. Act 20:21 Testifying both to Jews and Gentiles penance towards God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. Act 26:20 But to them first that are at Damascus and at Jerusalem, and unto all the country of Judea, and to the Gentiles did I preach, that they should do penance and turn to God, doing works worthy of penance. Rom 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and patience and longsuffering? Knowest thou not that the benignity of God leadeth thee to penance? 2Co 7:9 Now I am glad: not because you were made sorrowful, but because you were made sorrowful unto penance. For you were made sorrowful according to God, that you might suffer damage by us in nothing. 2Co 7:10 For the sorrow that is according to God worketh penance, steadfast unto salvation: but the sorrow of the world worketh death. 2Co 12:21 Lest again, when I come, God humble me among you: and I mourn many of them that sinned before and have not done penance for the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness that they have committed. Heb 6:1 Wherefore, leaving the word of the beginning of Christ, let us go on to things more perfect: not laying again the foundation of penance from dead works and of faith towards God, Heb 6:6 And are fallen away: to be renewed again to penance, crucifying again to themselves the Son of God and making him a mockery. 2Pe 3:9 The Lord delayeth not his promise, as some imagine, but dealeth patiently for your sake, not willing that any should perish, but that all should return to penance, Rev 2:5 Be mindful therefore from whence thou art fallen: and do penance and do the first works. Or else I come to thee and will move thy candlestick out of its place, except thou do penance. Rev 2:16 In like manner do penance. If not, I will come to thee quickly and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. Rev 2:21 And I gave her a time that she might do penance: and she will not repent of her fornication. Rev 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed: and they that commit adultery with her shall be in very great tribulation, except they do penance from their deeds, Rev 3:3 Have in mind therefore in what manner thou hast received and heard: and observe and do penance: If then thou shalt not watch, I will come to thee as a thief: and thou shalt not know at what hour I will come to thee. Rev 3:19 Such as I love, I rebuke and chastise. Be zealous therefore and do penance. Rev 9:20 And the rest of the men, who were not slain by these plagues, did not do penance from the works of their hands, that they should not adore devils and idols of gold and silver and brass and stone and wood, which neither can see nor hear nor walk: Rev 9:21 Neither did they penance from their murders nor from their sorceries nor from their fornication nor from their thefts. Rev 16:9 And men were scorched with great heat: and they blasphemed the name of God, who hath power over these plagues. Neither did they penance to give him glory. Rev 16:11 And they blasphemed the God of heaven, because of their pains and wounds: and did not penance for their works.
@Michael Speyrer *"every" C member agreeing does not prove its biblical. Church of S agreed on all their S doctrines too. All buddhists agreed on all their doctrines too. Does it make it truth? If you do not have simple logic you cannot debate. Now you know how use - less your Masters is?* you said My argument wasn't "many people believe this to be true." My argument was EVERYONE understood this to be true, in every branch of Christianity founded by the Apostles prior to dissident protestant anticatholic theologians in the Reformation 15oo years after the fact. And is still held by every one of them to today universally. Every single one holds this to be true.
@Turin21 *Too bad you are wrong once again. SS is not a pillar. It was a doctrine that Jesus, Apostles and nt Church followed.* you said One of the two “pillars” of the Protestant Reformation (sola scriptura or “the Bible alone”) in part states that nothing can be added to or taken away from God’s Word. History shows therefore that Protestants are guilty of violating their own doctrine. Luther and the deformers simply had some problems with the 7 books saying something different that what Luther made up so they tossed them, contrary to scripture.
@@Michael-nb4ng *Another S claim that lacks logic. Why? Church of Lucy was persecuted too. Cs too. Coms too. Does that mean its truth?* you said Proof that the RCC is the true Church is YOU and YOUR persecution.
@@Michael-nb4ng *Which part of Mat 16 says its R Church? I love your claims. But claims is Not a proof for doctrines. Try harder.* you said see Matt. 16: 18, " and the gates of hell shall not prevail."
@@jediv9492........Like I said, YOU persecution of the RCC is proof that the RCC is the true Church; problem is while YOU think YOU are persecuting the RCC.........it is Jesus that YOU are persecuting...........see Acts 9: 4.
@Michael *The question remained: Where in the Bible says R Church inherited the mantle of Peter? Where? Catholics love f claims.* You cannot answer? *Wow how wonderful.... Where in Mat 16 says its R Church? You love concocting fairy tales dont you?*
@@Michael-nb4ng *Paul was an Apostle. He was not the Original 12. You dont even know?* you said ....Are YOU denying that St. Paul is an apostle because he was not with the original 12 ???
@Michael *Bible does not say its atonement. Jesus merely asked Z to make restitution. Not atonement for sins. No man can atone for sins except Jesus.* *Z did not get Salvation because of restitution. He got salvation because he truly believed in Jesus.* Exo 22:3 If the sun has risen on him, there shall be guilt for his bloodshed. He should make full restitution; if he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft. Exo 22:5 "If a man causes a field or vineyard to be grazed, and lets loose his animal, and it feeds in another man's field, he shall make restitution from the best of his own field and the best of his own vineyard. Exo 22:6 "If fire breaks out and catches in thorns, so that stacked grain, standing grain, or the field is consumed, he who kindled the fire shall surely make restitution. Exo 22:12 But if, in fact, it is stolen from him, he shall make restitution to the owner of it. Lev 5:16 And he shall make restitution for the harm that he has done in regard to the holy thing, and shall add one-fifth to it and give it to the priest. So the priest shall make atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering, and it shall be forgiven him. Num 5:7 then he shall confess the sin which he has committed. He shall make restitution for his trespass in full, plus one-fifth of it, and give it to the one he has wronged. Num 5:8 But if the man has no relative to whom restitution may be made for the wrong, the restitution for the wrong must go to the LORD for the priest, in addition to the ram of the atonement with which atonement is made for him. you said ........The Mosaic Law forbade stealing, but Zaccheus had no problem stealing; however it was in the presence of Jesus that he made atonement and got SALVATION.
*OT Scriptures was there way before Jesus' time. NT Scriptures was already in all churches by AD100s. Jesus and APostles were already using inspired Scriptures. Believers did not have to wait for the BIBLE that came 300 years later to know what GOD says in the Scriptures.*
The OT should have given the Jews every reason to welcome Jesus, but they rejected Him..........even the apostles abandoned Him. The gentiles accepted Jesus readily.......without knowing the OT. That is Grace !!!
@@miketeixeira7853 *Your theory is warped. The first few thousands who accepted Christ were Jewish Proselytes who came from all over. THey do know the Old Testament.* YOU: The OT should have given the Jews every reason to welcome Jesus, but they rejected Him..........even the apostles abandoned Him. The gentiles accepted Jesus readily.......without knowing the OT. That is Grace !!!
@@solafide9533............See the great faith of the Roman centurion in Matt. 8: 8-10, and Jesus answers, " I have found no one in Israel with such great faith."
@@miketeixeira7853 *As usual what are you proving Mike Teixeira roman pagan?* YOU: ............See the great faith of the Roman centurion in Matt. 8: 8-10, and Jesus answers, " I have found no one in Israel with such great faith."
What is she up to? I'd be grateful for any examples. Notice he agrees that the Pope reaffirms to not adding any new doctrine but proclaiming that which Christ teaches (28:02-06). Also, in most of the pentecostal arguments that IV heard, it's said that one is saved by faith alone in Jesus. So there shouldn't be a problem with the Church or any other denomination as long as they believe in the Lord Jesus, don't you think?
@@christianartists9185 The CC wants to send you to hell with it by telling you that there is a safety net called pergatory. No real need to seek the Lord, because you can get saved by paying for your own sins. You need any more examples? No need to tell you about its priests whole sale raping little kids. Thats old news.
From his words that he will not bash the Catholic and later mention that the picture of the pope will haunt you. From here, I can't accept his words from the bible because that's his interpretation. And he could be wrong. The protestant are always protesting till the end time.
@Sola Fide Catholica *2 Thes **2:15**, 3:6 all referred to traditions of Apostles - which Bible says so. Scripture Alone stands unchallenged. God and His Word accepts all traditions of Jesus and Apostles.* *But God condemned all m m unbiblical traditions of the Pharisees and R Church alike. Mat 23. Dont you ever read the Bible?* you said “Keep away from any brother who is living in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us” (2 Thess. 3:6). Given this why do I have to explain your 25 points from the bible alone.
@Men of Virtue *So according to you "repeating more times = must be physical". I worry for you if you cannot see the fallaciousness.* you said so if Jesus said something and repeats it more than once saying amen amen I say onto you... means he isn't meaning what he is saying.
@Tom Rodgers *R Church merely used selective repetitive passages week in week out. You cannot complete the whole Bible in 1000 years.* you said The catholic go through the bible complete every three year, not just new testament plus my own time.
In three years, if you go to Mass every day, you will hear 90+ % of the Bible. But that's not the point of regular public worship. The primary purpose of gathering and worshiping God is to offer His Sacrifice again, as He directed ("do this in memorium"). Only Catholics (and Orthodox) fulfill Jesus' command in this. Protestant worship which involves good songs and prayers and preaching is good as far as it goes, but it falls short of having Jesus Himself present.
@@kd4yhs *Of course that's the tales R Church tells you. But what they did not tell you is: they merely take selective passages and repeat them day in and out. You will not cover the Bible is 1000 years.* you said In three years, if you go to Mass every day, you will hear 90+ % of the Bible
@@kd4yhs *Offer Jesus' sacrifice again? Where in the Bible says "offer Jesus' sacrifice again"? In fact Bible says the opposite. Bible says the sacrifice of Jesus was done Once For All. Not "offer Jesus' sacrifice again".* Rom 6:10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. Heb 7:27 who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people's, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself. Heb 9:12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. Heb 10:10 By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. you said The primary purpose of gathering and worshiping God is to offer His Sacrifice again, as He directed ("do this in memorium"). Only Catholics (and Orthodox) fulfill Jesus' command in this
@@kd4yhs *Too bad. You were taught the wrong stuff by R Church. Bible did not ask R Catholcis to sacrifice Jesus on the altar back to God. Bible says clergy priesthood, sacrifice and altars were already obsolete in nt. Heb 7,9,10.* *Bible calls all believers to worship God in spirit and in truth. John 4. Bible says singing psalms hymns spiritual songs to the Lord. Col **3:16**, Eph **5:19**. Bible says believers are to offer their lives a living sacrifice to God as a worship. Romans 12:1-2. Not offer Jesus back to God.* Rom 12:1 I therefore urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercies, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices that are holy and pleasing to God, for this is the reasonable way for you to worship. Eph 5:19 speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord, Col 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. you said The primary purpose of gathering and worshiping God is to offer His Sacrifice again, as He directed ("do this in memorium"). Only Catholics (and Orthodox) fulfill Jesus' command in this Protestant worship which involves good songs and prayers and preaching is good as far as it goes, but it falls short of having Jesus Himself present.
@@faithalone2171 Yes, 'offer' it repeatedly. (But this is not RE-sacrificing, just re-offering that one Sacrifice.). Jesus commanded and empowered His first New Covenant priests, the Apostles, to do this at the Last Supper. This is the New Covenant fulfillment of the OC Passover. That was mandated to be performed until the end of time (read Exodus). The lamb of that sacrifice is replaced by the Lamb of God, Jesus, whose one-time Sacrifice is offered again and again. The earthly re-offering emulates what continues to happen in Heaven. Revelation depicts the Lamb, looking as though it is slain, which is Jesus, offering Himself to the Father again and again. Now, Jesus instituted His New Covenant priesthood for this purpose on earth. Their successors, down to today, continue to obey Jesus' mandate by being the instruments for Jesus to repeat His offering on earth for us to join in that offering, renewing our Covenant with God. This has been the Christian doctrine since the beginning. Denial of it is a new, novel idea,
@Hosanna in Excelsis *Papacy is not a doctrine of the Bible. Why would Christians have pope? It's unbiblical.* you said the difference between the Catholic Church and Protestantism is that while we have one pope, you have thousands.
@Michael *As usual RCatsluvdarguments. Since when CHristians teach "Do not love" or "Do not do good works"?* you said St. Paul says in 1 Cor. 13, " If I have faith to move mountains, but have not love/charity.........I am nothing." when we feed/house/clothe/and comfort Him via the least as is written in Matt. 25: 31-45.
@Michael *"an eye for an eye" is about revenge. Not restitution or penance. You see how you love misquoting Scriptures?* *Zacchaeus was merely doing restitution as stipulated by Mosaic Law. Not Penance. He did not atone for any sins. Only Jesus' work at the Cross can atone for sins. You are preaching h-sies!* Zacchaeus was under Mosaic Law. Are you under Mosaic Law? Restitution is restoring goods. Penance is atonement for sins. Where in the Bible teach penance? Exo 22:3 If the sun has risen on him, there shall be guilt for his bloodshed. He should make full restitution; if he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft. Exo 22:5 "If a man causes a field or vineyard to be grazed, and lets loose his animal, and it feeds in another man's field, he shall make restitution from the best of his own field and the best of his own vineyard. Exo 22:6 "If fire breaks out and catches in thorns, so that stacked grain, standing grain, or the field is consumed, he who kindled the fire shall surely make restitution. Exo 22:12 But if, in fact, it is stolen from him, he shall make restitution to the owner of it. Lev 5:16 And he shall make restitution for the harm that he has done in regard to the holy thing, and shall add one-fifth to it and give it to the priest. So the priest shall make atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering, and it shall be forgiven him. Num 5:7 then he shall confess the sin which he has committed. He shall make restitution for his trespass in full, plus one-fifth of it, and give it to the one he has wronged. Num 5:8 But if the man has no relative to whom restitution may be made for the wrong, the restitution for the wrong must go to the LORD for the priest, in addition to the ram of the atonement with which atonement is made for him. you said ........The OT law was 'an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth'. In the presence of God/Jesus, Zaccheus purged himself of his treasure........amazing what we can do for Jesus.
@Turin21 *Yes from day 1 you make claims until now. So where is your proof?* *- I asked: where in the Bible or history says R Church = the Church Christ founded or the Universal Church? - You answered: Jesus founded the Universal Church. Lol. *Even kindergartenkids know you are not answering my question.* you said It was designed by Jesus Himself to be the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic church. So from day 1 to answer your question.
@@tomgarrison5313 You got both wrong🙄 The pastor said the picture of THE POPE may (jokingly) haunt you for the rest of your life. It was a light hearted joke, that's all. Earning a "sub", simply means the commentator subscribed (sub'ed) to this particular RUclips channel.
You will know them by their fruit. Jesus
False teachers are known by their fruit.
Exactly.
Two millennia old, worldwide, all cultures and languages, 24 rites (besides Latin) in communion with each other with over 1.2 Billion followers
Seems like it’s pretty clear which is the True Church of Christ
@@savannahfan Christ in His times, didn't have too much followers when He wasn't crucify yet, but when He was resurrected, He started to have a lot of followers through middle east, asia and the balkans thanks to the Apostles (later on, the whole world).
The only True Chruch of Christ it's Him, not any earthly chruch with no authority in heaven and earth. Whoever want to understand this, understand it. I'm not here to argue, but to say the truth which it's not mine, but of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Thank you! I was raised Catholic and was taught all those things. I'm Christian now and feel free in knowing I can come to Jesus in privacy on my knees and confess my sins. I don't need to go to confession to a priest and I don't believe in perguatory anymore.
You're a wise lady Sally. A catholic cannot have the indwelling Holy Ghost so cannot be saved or understand the scriptures.
@@colvinator1611 Thank you for your support and kindness. It was so weird growing up and being taught about pergatory and my relatives would speak of it like it was true and you just go to this uncomfortable place for a while and get purged/purified of your sins and then you can go to heaven.
I feel very sorry for you. So confused and happy in your sins. You don’t even know enough to realize that you were always Christian,although a very poorly catechized one. The Catholic faith is the only true Christian faith. I guess you really don’t have to believe in purgatory anymore being you will probably pass right by it on your way down. Apostasy from Gods Church is a mortal sin.
They too busy denying people salvation. Our salvation is complete in Christ Jesus our Lord and anyone who tells you different is speaking lies from the devil.
So sally, do you now believe in going right straight to heaven after you die?
@The Mysterious Cynthia X *A simple read of the Bible one will know R Church is unbiblical and not the nt church of the Bible. You dont read the Bible do you? 95% of Rc doctrines are unheard of in 1st century and not from traditions of Jesus and Apostles or Scriptures or contradicts Scriptures! Nt Church of the Bible had not heard or practised any of these Rc doctrines.*
1. Purgatory 2. Confessing to priests 3. Office of pope or priests4. Pope being the vicar (representation of Christ, usurping the authority of God)5. Praying to Mary, saints6. Penance 7. Worshipping idols/images, placing idols images in church8. Church in the Bible is not building, but the body of believers9. Sacrament was never the real body and blood of Christ as RC church claimed (Real meaning real blood and body, bcos it didnt really turned "bloody" did it?)10. Salvation by (works (7sacraments) +faith) was never in the Bible. Real salvation is by grace through faith as seen in Bible. 11. Rosary, set repetitive prayers, hail Mary 10000 times12. Mass - putting Christ on the altar again and again13. Mary as queen of heaven 14. Mary as Ark of the new covenant. 15. Mary as the mother of heavenly Jesus thus Mary exist before Christ16. Immersion of infant for baptism17. Holy water18. Celibacy of priests (no office of priests in NT anyway, only priesthood of all believers)19. Kissing of statues20. Changing of 10 commandments. COmmandment of graven image removed by Catholic CHurch in Catholic Catechism. Splitting of another commandment into 2 commandments. 21. Catholic church changed Bible verse Gen 3:15 (And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel."). 'He' and 'His' referring to Christ.
Catholics changed it to (Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; She shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise Her heel.") 'She' and 'Her' refers to Mary. 22. Catholic Church use Rev 12 to refer to Mary as 'queen of heaven', when Rev 12:6 clearly refers to Israel escaping the Great Tribulation. Mary cannot be alive to escape the Great Tribulation. 23. Catholic Church refers to Mary as 'Queen of heaven', but 'Queen of Mary' in the Bible is a demonic entity Astoreth or Ishtar, the female deity partner of Baal. 5 verses in Jeremiah as proof.24. Catholic church refers to Mary as the Mediatress, Co redemptress, helper of Christ, firstborn of all creation ..
Mary cannot be the mediatress. Jesus is the one and only Mediator between God and man. Only Jesus redeems. Only the Holy Spirit is the Helper sent by Jesus. Only Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. 25. Roman Catholicism has “saints” one can pray to in order to gain a particular blessing. For example, Saint Gianna Beretta Molla is the patron saint of fertility. Francis of Assisi is the patron saint of animals. There are multiple patron saints of healing and comfort.
Nowhere is even a hint of this taught in Scripture. Just as the Roman pantheon of gods had a god of love, a god of peace, a god of war, a god of strength, a god of wisdom, etc., so the Catholic Church has a saint who is “in charge” over each of these and many other categories. Many Roman cities had a god specific to the city, and the Catholic Church provided “patron saints” for cities as well.26. Mary is called the gate of heaven? Mary has keys to paradise?
Here are roman pagan teachers saying their man made goddess is their savior. None of these quotes have been denounced, on the contrary they are cited.
"Open to us, O Mary, the gate of Paradise, since you have its keys! " St. Ambrose
"God has entrusted the keys and treasures of Heaven to Mary." St. Thomas Aquinas
"No one can enter into Heaven except through Mary, as entering through a gate. " St. Bonaventure
"Mary is called "The Gate of Heaven" because no one can enter Heaven but through her means." St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori
Papal infallibility
Immaculate Mary
Assumption of Mary
Perpetual Virgin
Mary as Mother of God,
co mediatrix,
co redemptrix,
new ark of covenant,
Pope as vicar,
Holy Water,
papacy,
peter as first pope,
papal succession,
apostolic succession,
indulgences,
7 sacraments,
rosary
veneration of saints and statues
celibacy of priesthood
canonization of saints
limbo
If a person would just read the Bible, from beginning to end, and allow the Bible to show them what the truth is, this would show the person what they need to know. But many people go by the traditions of men, having studied the Bible very little or incompletely. So that's why it's so easy for them to believe whatever they are taught.
@@charlesstuart954 in that section the bible is referring to the traditions of the Torah.
im a catholic and Ive read my bible
@@michaelhanahoe9010 Do you bow befor images?
Very true I'm ex Catholic they go by tradition most of them don't read The Bible only what the priest told you to read in the Catholic Church day he chooses a person to read. When you show a cat foot What Jesus Christ talk about Faith Repent Accept Jesus crisis saviour What he did for us on the cross . It's by grace not good works . Do is good works in The Bible but the catholics take to add a context Well what it means by good works showing evidence you are Christian not working away to heaven . Cancel church which started 34AD. When you corner a Catholic about grace In showing the day change the 10 commandments And they have extra books of The Bible that was not expired . They blame Luther They blame Luther Death is a big excuse.
St. Jerome says "Ignorance of the Scripture is ignorance of Christ.", he is the one who devoted his life to translate Hebrew/ Greek/ Aramaic Septuagint OT and NT mostly Koine Greek and some Aramaic, into Latin, thus producing Latin Vulgate (Latin Version), and also made some commentaries in Gospels.
The Catholic Church existed before the 1st Gospel of Mark is ever written on 65 A.D. and the compilation of Bible (LXX from OT made of 46books and 27 books NT out of 300 books) was made official only on 367-415 . Therefore, the Church before the Bible is Compiled, is holding on Church oral Traditions, oral transmission and written apostolic letters.
According to CCC120, It was by apostolic Tradition that the Church discerned which writing are to be included in the list of sacred books.
Tadah! Tradition bear good fruit the Bible.
What tradition did Jesus Christ critized? Twas some of the Mitzvot ( mitzvah for singular law), like cleansing rituals, Corban to avoid help to parents, Sabbath laws to manipulate others, sabbath feasts, Kashrut...etc , which becomes too legalistic and became burden to Jews, they forgot the heart of the oral and written Torah which is holiness, mercy and charity. Even St. Paul tells some of it in his epistle to the Colossians 2:16.
Some Church Traditions today are often abused and goes beyond what is sound doctrine and often turned to cultic activities, heresies, schisms, worst apostate; however, the Church can easily detect it and will make apostolic letter to tell that is not the way it should be. The Church knows those abuses and she corrects it. That is only what I only know connecting Church Traditions and Bible.
@Turin21 *95% of R Church doctrines were not from Scriptures yet you claimed its 100% R Catholic? Lolol. You dont read the Bible do you?*
*95% of Rc doctrines are unheard of in 1st century and not from traditions of Jesus and Apostles or Scriptures or contradicts Scriptures! Nt Church of the Bible had not heard or practised any of these Rc doctrines.*
1. Purgatory 2. Confessing to priests 3. Office of pope or priests4. Pope being the vicar (representation of Christ, usurping the authority of God)5. Praying to Mary, saints6. Penance 7. Worshipping idols/images, placing idols images in church8. Church in the Bible is not building, but the body of believers9. Sacrament was never the real body and blood of Christ as RC church claimed (Real meaning real blood and body, bcos it didnt really turned "bloody" did it?)10. Salvation by (works (7sacraments) +faith) was never in the Bible. Real salvation is by grace through faith as seen in Bible. 11. Rosary, set repetitive prayers, hail Mary 10000 times12. Mass - putting Christ on the altar again and again13. Mary as queen of heaven 14. Mary as Ark of the new covenant. 15. Mary as the mother of heavenly Jesus thus Mary exist before Christ16. Immersion of infant for baptism17. Holy water18. Celibacy of priests (no office of priests in NT anyway, only priesthood of all believers)19. Kissing of statues20. Changing of 10 commandments. COmmandment of graven image removed by Catholic CHurch in Catholic Catechism. Splitting of another commandment into 2 commandments. 21. Catholic church changed Bible verse Gen 3:15 (And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel."). 'He' and 'His' referring to Christ.
Catholics changed it to (Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; She shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise Her heel.") 'She' and 'Her' refers to Mary. 22. Catholic Church use Rev 12 to refer to Mary as 'queen of heaven', when Rev 12:6 clearly refers to Israel escaping the Great Tribulation. Mary cannot be alive to escape the Great Tribulation. 23. Catholic Church refers to Mary as 'Queen of heaven', but 'Queen of Mary' in the Bible is a demonic entity Astoreth or Ishtar, the female deity partner of Baal. 5 verses in Jeremiah as proof.24. Catholic church refers to Mary as the Mediatress, Co redemptress, helper of Christ, firstborn of all creation ..
Mary cannot be the mediatress. Jesus is the one and only Mediator between God and man. Only Jesus redeems. Only the Holy Spirit is the Helper sent by Jesus. Only Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. 25. Roman Catholicism has “saints” one can pray to in order to gain a particular blessing. For example, Saint Gianna Beretta Molla is the patron saint of fertility. Francis of Assisi is the patron saint of animals. There are multiple patron saints of healing and comfort.
Nowhere is even a hint of this taught in Scripture. Just as the Roman pantheon of gods had a god of love, a god of peace, a god of war, a god of strength, a god of wisdom, etc., so the Catholic Church has a saint who is “in charge” over each of these and many other categories. Many Roman cities had a god specific to the city, and the Catholic Church provided “patron saints” for cities as well.26. Mary is called the gate of heaven? Mary has keys to paradise?
Here are roman pagan teachers saying their man made goddess is their savior. None of these quotes have been denounced, on the contrary they are cited.
"Open to us, O Mary, the gate of Paradise, since you have its keys! " St. Ambrose
"God has entrusted the keys and treasures of Heaven to Mary." St. Thomas Aquinas
"No one can enter into Heaven except through Mary, as entering through a gate. " St. Bonaventure
"Mary is called "The Gate of Heaven" because no one can enter Heaven but through her means." St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori
Papal infallibility
Immaculate Mary
Assumption of Mary
Perpetual Virgin
Mary as Mother of God,
co mediatrix,
co redemptrix,
new ark of covenant,
Pope as vicar,
Holy Water,
papacy,
peter as first pope,
papal succession,
apostolic succession,
indulgences,
7 sacraments,
rosary
veneration of saints and statues
celibacy of priesthood
canonization of saints
limbo
you said
Just read some of his writings. 100% Catholic
1 Timothy 2:5, "There is one mediator between God and Man - the Man Christ Jesus." Purgatory, praying to Mary, Praying to Saints, calling priests, "Father", Baptizing children, not reading the Bible, selling alcohol in church, having worldly music played at Church gatherings are all bad practices that lead people to hell.
I was 14 and a Christian gave us a tract that you must be born again. My Mother took it home and I read it. It quoted verses from John 3:3-7. I said, "Look at these protestants, inventing false doctrines to try and get us to go to their Church. If being born again was in the Bible, the Catholic Priests would have taught us." At 16 I bought a bible and to my amazement, John 3:3-7 was in it, and then reading, I found out that being "Born Again" was the main thrust of the new Testament! But Catholics did not know about being Born Again. Orthodox Churches also do not know about being Born Again. The older the Church, the more they are steeped in Tradition and Man Made doctrines like praying to saints. 1 Timothy 2:5, "There is one mediator between God and Man - the Man Christ Jesus."
You're both wrong on just about every count. But "selling alcohol in church" ? That's a new one!!
@larysnw418
Before I arrived there were only two of you here.
"I urge then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone - for kings, for all those in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceful life in all godliness and holiness. This is good and pleases God our Saviour, who wants all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man, Christ Jesus."
1Timothy 2:1-5
Jesus is the one Mediator of our salvation, our only Saviour. But He is not our only intercessor, as the whole passage above clearly indicates. So the one passage that fundamentalists have used to deny intercessionary prayer, when read in context, actually backs up intercessionary prayer.
James 5: 16-18 " ...The fervent prayer of a righteous person is very powerful. Elijah was a human being like us; yet he prayed earnestly that it might not rain, and for three years and six months it did not rain upon the land. Then he prayed again, and the sky gave rain and the earth produced its fruit."
So we see that intercession strengthens prayer. And the more righteous and faithful the intercessor is, the more powerful the prayer.
BUT THAT IS PRAYER ON EARTH. I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT PEOPLE IN HEAVEN CAN NEITHER SEE US OR PRAY FOR US.
That is a recent, man-made doctrine, with no authority behind it.
Hebrews 12.1 speaks of "a great cloud of witnesses" who surround us, and who consist of the faithful holy ones of God. Many examples of these witnesses are given in the preceding Chapter 11 of Hebrews.
Later in the Bible we see this vision of heaven:
Revelation 4.4: Surrounding the throne were twenty four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads.
Revelation 5.8: ...and the twenty four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.
Seeking Mary's intercession probably dates back to the earliest Christians. One of the oldest Christian prayers recorded in writing, the Sub Tuum, from the 200s AD, is a prayer to Mary:
We fly to your patronage, O holy Mother of God.
Despise not our petitions in our necessities,
But deliver us from all dangers,
O ever-glorious and Blessed Virgin!
BUT I DON'T NEED MARY WHEN I CAN GO DIRECTLY TO GOD.
Why not say "I don't need the rest of my family as long as I have my father"? The Church is a single body; the different members interelate and rely on one another: "The eye cannot say unto the hand, "I don't need you!" And the head cannot say to the feet, "I don't need you!" (I Co 12:21).
St. Irenaeus Against Heresies (circa 189 A.D.) :
..the virgin Eve, betrothed to a man but nevertheless still a virgin, was unhappily led astray,-- yet that deception was done away with because the Virgin Mary, betrothed to a man but nevertheless still a virgin, heard the truth spoken by an angel, and was obedient. For just as the former was led astray by the word of an angel, so that she fled from God when she had transgressed His word; so did the latter, by an angelic communication receive the glad tidings that she should
sustain (portaret) God, being obedient to His word.
The former disobeyed God, yet the latter was persuaded to be obedient to God, so that the Virgin Mary might become patroness (advocata) of the virgin Eve. And thus, as the human race fell into bondage to death by means of a virgin, so is it rescued by a virgin; virginal disobedience having been balanced in the opposite scale by virginal obedience. In the same way the sin of the first created man (protoplasti) is made amends by the correction of the First-begotten, the coming of the serpent is conquered by the harmlessness of the dove, those bonds being unloosed by which we had been fast bound to death.😆😆
@@bibleman8010 The Catholics took the second commandment to not make any graven image of things in heaven, earth or hell and removed it from the 10 commandments. They then took the commandment to not covet your neighbors wife nor possessions and broke it up into 2 to make 10 commandments; "Thou shalt not commit Adultery" and ""Thou shalt not steal". Praying to Mary and Saints, you risk going to Hell. I Corinthians 6:9 says so. Idolatry is a sin that takes you to hell.
I am not against Intercessory prayer, I am against fanaticism. It is the prayer of FAITH in James 5:15 that heals the sick, and it is DOUBT that prevents God from healing in Mark 5:5-6. There are different kinds of prayer in the New Testament (Matthew 18:18-20, Ephesians 6:18) and repetitive prayer is the only one that Jesus mentioned is vain, but that is the only one that 98% of believers know.
Why not pray Ephesians 1:16-23 and Ephesians 3:14-21 instead of man-made vain prayers?
Matthew 6:7 says not to use vain repetitions. A Catholic neighbor told me that in 71 years of being a Catholic, she had never seen a miracle.
My Aunt said that she prayed to Mary for 60 years and where did it get her? With tears in her eyes she said 22 operations and now she does not believe in God. Crying, she said, "I had my first operation at age 21."
My Mother prayed to the father in the name of Jesus according to John 16:23 and had zero operations. She was miraculously healed in 1977 and 2016.
I am convinced that Praying to Mary is praying to the devil. 2 Corinthians says that Satan transforms himself like an angel of Light. Several Mexican me told me that they DO NOT believe in Jesus, that they believe in the VIrgin of Guadalupe, that SHE appeared to the Poor and that SHE loves the poor. That is fanaticism for sure.
You must believe the Bible, not Philosophy to receive
When Churches beg God over and over again (which does not work because in Matthew 6:7 Jesus said not to use vain repetitions), they fall back onto philosophy to explain why God does not heal. Catholic, Methodist, Lutheran, Episcopal, Nazarene, Baptist, Presbyterian, and Orthodox teach the following:
I used to believe:
1. God is Sovereign.
2. God is all powerful
3. God is in control
4. God can do whatever he wants
5. God has a purpose, a plan and a time for everything,
6. God knows what you are suffering
7. God will heal you in his time.
This is HOPE, not FAITH. You are hoping in God 7 times. Jesus said all things were possible to him who believes, not him who hopes (Mark 9:23).
Mark 11:24 says in the original to believe you ALREADY received. And Matthew 6:7 says the repetitions are vain. The received has an epsilon in front of it which means it is past tense. Most translations translate it to present or future, but this is a gross mistake.
In Mark 6:5-6 Jesus WANTED to heal the blind, deaf, paralyzed but COULD'T because of their unbelief.
James 1:6-7 says not to think that you will receive if you doubt.
Jesus never said,
1. Go to the doctor
2. What did the doctor say?
3. It is not God's will to heal you
4. Wait
5. God has a purpose in this sickness.
6. God know's what you are suffering.
7. God has a purpose and a plan and a time for everything.
8. In His time, God will heal you.
9. You don't have faith but I will heal you anyway.
10. God knows what He is doing.
11. You cannot lose your healing.
12. God will give you faith if He wants you to be healed.
13. God doesn't heal today.
14. Only I and the Apostles can heal.
15. Cannot say that sickness is of the Devil.
16. Can't tell people they don't have faith.
17. Your healing will be instant.
18. God can do whatever He wants.
19. What did the Doctor prescribe?
20. Sickness will make you stronger.
21. You will learn through this sickness.
My Aunt said that she prayed to Mary for 60 years and where did it get her? With tears in her eyes she said 22 operations and now she does not believe in God. Crying, she said, "I had my first operation at age 21."
In the Original Greek in Mark 11:24, Jesus commands His apostles to believe that they already received when they pray. In 2016, six specialists told my mother that she needed a pacemaker. She was so weak that she could only walk 20 feet in 10 minutes, and then had to sit down and rest. I shared Mark 11:24 with my mother. We prayed in the name of Jesus and then my mother praised God that she was already healed. The next day she walked a mile to go get her groceries, completely normal. She never did need a pacemaker. Just days before, she was so weak that she was hospitalized for 10 days.
My neighbor was sent home to die because he was so low on the list for a kidney transplant. He was bedridden. The doctors told the wife that in 2 to 3 days he would be dead. We prayed the same way and he rose up completely normal the next day. He stood out in the front yard and stopped all the neighbors and told them what happened. I could go on and on for hours telling you about several neighbors and several relatives that received this way. God confirms His Word with signs (Mark 16:20), the problem is that too many are using vain repetitions which Jesus said were vain in Matthew 6:7.
Also it is the prayer of FAITH that heals the sick in James 5:15, not just prayer. Faith is based on the Bible. Since 99% of Churches do NOT teach on healing, 99% of Churches cannot pray the prayer of Faith to receive healing.
Look up James 5:15, it is the prayer of FAITH that heals, not the prayer of repetition.
In Matthew 9:2, it was THEIR faith, in Matthew 9:22, it was HER faith, and in Matthew 9:29, it was THEIR faith that caused them to receive. That 3 times in only 1 chapter. In Acts 14:7-10 it was the mans faith that healed him, not Paul's faith.
My mother sang in Church in Greek prior to coming to the US. I took 2 years of Greek at my Catholic University just so that I could prove the difference between Hoping and Believing. I even told my Greek professor and read to her Mark 11:24 in the original. She and a Greek man in Church and 2 other Greek's from work told me that I am correct in my interpretation. You must believe that you already received prior to receiving.
You must believe the Bible, not Philosophy to receive.
@@MrAlanKendall
You: The Catholics took the second commandment to not make any graven image of things in heaven, earth or hell and removed it from the 10 commandments.
Me: That is a lie. Are you aware that liars do not enter Heaven?
You: Praying to Mary and Saints, you risk going to Hell. I Corinthians 6:9 says so.
Me: It says nothing of the sort!
Ex catholic , born again believer in the death burial and resurrection of my lord and saviour Jesus the Christ. I have witnessed to my whole family , and watched them come to faith in Jesus one by one . Praise God. I love Jesus, I want to thank him on my knees before him. He loves me ,He loves you, more than you can ever comprehend. Come Lord Jesus, come quickly, thy will be done.....
Of all the religions, God has favoured Catholic Christianity, more than all others, with His presence and manifestations in the past 2,000 years.
Catholics have been favoured with Eucharistic Miracles- like the 1996 Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires, Argentina & in Lanciano, Italy in the 8th C
In Acts 2:27 - we read - For God will not allow His Holy one to undergo corruption. Likewise, God has clothed with incorruptibility the corpses of Catholic saints who have led a holy life in conformity with Jesus. The 500 year incorrupt corpse of St. Francis Xavier, which resides in Goa, India, is one example.
Fr. Albert Hebert has compiled a list of over 400 resurrections of people who died but were raised to life by many Catholic saints. His book - Raised from the Dead - is available in book-stores.
Jesus, our Living God, has appeared to many saints. In the 14th C, Jesus appeared to St. Bridget of Sweden who was much desirous of knowing about his agony He endured on the Way to Calvary - in other words, His Passion & Death. For a whole year Jesus taught her 15 Prayers and attached Promises to anyone who repeats these Prayers continuously for a year - the 1st Promise being - Jesus will deliver 15 souls of his/her lineage from Purgatory. ( Note - you can check the Internet under - The 15 Prayers of St. Bridget - and also view the Promises. ) And in the 1930's, not yet a hundred years ago, Jesus appeared to a Polish Nun, Sr. Faustina, and taught her the following prayer - Eternal Father, I offer you the Body & Blood, Soul & Divinity of your dearly Beloved Son, our Lord Jesus Christ. In atonement for our sins and those of the whole world. For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and the whole world. - This is in line with The Lord's Prayer which is pluralistic with the words - Our, Us, We, etc.
And in 1995, Jesus appeared to a Nigerian named Barnabas and gave him the Devotion to His Precious Blood
- ( continued )
Protestantism is not so much a Religion as a Religious Philosophy. It is a belief in Christ, to be sure, but then it remains a hearer and not doer of The Word, thus deceiving themselves - James 1:22. There is no substance or forms of worship and thanksgiving to Jesus God and Saviour for His work of Creation and Redemption. Catholics, on the other hand, believe in the Real - John 6:53-58 - Presence of Jesus in Holy Communion -Eucharist which is the Greek word for Thanksgiving. The Mass is truly both a form of Worship and Thanksgiving. Other forms include Eucharistic Adorations, Benedictions, Eucharistic Processions, etc.
Protestantism does not take account that the same Jesus issued Commandments - not suggestions - for which there are penalties for non-compliance. It ignores that God - tests - each and every person with consequences in not fulfilling these tests or running away like Jonah It bypasses that humans are still under the influence of our Fallen Natures whereby we sin - even mortally - 1John 5:16-17 - and do works of the flesh that would disqualify us from Heaven - Galatians 5:19-21. On the way to Calvary, Jesus cautioned the women of Jerusalem - Luke 23:28-31 - to weep for themselves and their children for forthcoming days of great sorrow. As God, Jesus foreknew the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 AD, which was not only the result of the Jews not acknowledging the time of the Visitation of their Messiah, Jesus, but also because of their sins, especially of their hypocritical leaders - the Scribes, Chief Priests and Pharisees Thus for Protestants to believe that - all - sins are eternally forgiven and covered by the precious Blood of Jesus is false. Other examples that God still hates sin was the "execution" of Ananias and Sapphira for dishonesty and lying- Acts 5. And Jesus' threatened spewing out and vomiting of the lukewarm Laodicean church - Rev 3
John 21:25 states that Jesus did many other things which the written word is incapable of recording. As a result 2 traditions ensued - oral and written - 2 Thess. 2:15 - which are of equal merit. By "Sola Scriptura" Protestants are only receiving part of Divine Truth thus resulting in so many denominations. The Catholic Church was founded on Peter's rock-solid declaration of Jesus' Divinity - Matt. 16:16 and Jesus' promise - Matt 16:17-19- and holds to both traditions. It is the Church of the Living God and the Pillar and Bulwark of Truth - 1 Timothy 3:15
Many Catholic churches have side chapels, some even open 24/7, whereby the Holy Eucharist is exposed for veneration/worship. They are open to the public - even non-Catholics. I really hope that you will make use of these to worship and adore our Living God. God IS Living and has manifested His Presence through many Eucharistic Miracles - check the Internet for details of the 1996 miracle in Buenos Aires and the 8th Century one in Lanciano, Italy.
@@margaretlobo9466
Beautiful post Margaret. May God bless and Our Lady keep you in Her prayers.
@@andrewrolwes6034 Thanks and God bless
@@margaretlobo9466 i will pray for you. By grace are you saved thru faith, not of works. Read your bible....read the letters paul wrote to the gentiles, that would be me and you i assume. All the other apostles went to the jews. Slightly different gospel , the gospel of grace not works is what paul preached. The gospel of the kingdom is what the other apostles preached to the jews. Gospel of the kingdom plus judaism is what the catholic church is all about. Works alone ,if you do enough might get you to heaven. What a concept... paul is your apostle if you are a gentile, (anyone but a jew), than you should read all pauls letters, then tell me you dont believe in salvation by grace thru-faith alone not of works,,, it is childlike faith, JESUS made it so easy for us to believe .....
We only worship one gun The word Pope means holy father . We only have one father that's our father in heaven not the Pope.
One of the blasphemy of catholic church...to call priest as father..and vicar of Christ..its in revelation referring to a harlot..
@@regeneratedservantph4994
You don't understand the Scriptures.
it actually just means "father"
@@regeneratedservantph4994 What did Lord Jesus Christ call St. Joseph and the Blessed Virgin Mary?
@@catholicdoctrine Jesus called Mary Oh Great virgin Queen of Heaven. Jesus spoke of little else.
@Turin21 *Bible teaches repentance. Not Penance:*
1. Repentance - change of heart. Not Penance - work to atone for sins or pay for sins.
2. Confess to God. 1 John 1:9. Not confess to R ct priest for absolving of sins.
*Find me a verse that says penance in nt? You cant.*
Mat 3:2 and saying, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!"
Mat 3:8 Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance,
Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.
Mat 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach and to say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."
Mat 9:13 But go and learn what this means: 'I DESIRE MERCY AND NOT SACRIFICE.' For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance."
Mat 11:20 Then He began to rebuke the cities in which most of His mighty works had been done, because they did not repent:
Mat 11:21 "Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
Mat 12:41 The men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and indeed a greater than Jonah is here.
Mar 1:4 John came baptizing in the wilderness and preaching a baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
Mar 1:15 and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel."
Mar 2:17 When Jesus heard it, He said to them, "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance."
Mar 6:12 So they went out and preached that people should repent.
Luk 3:3 And he went into all the region around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of repentance for the remission of sins,
Luk 3:8 Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance, and do not begin to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father.' For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones.
Luk 5:32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance."
Luk 10:13 "Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.
Luk 11:32 The men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and indeed a greater than Jonah is here.
Luk 13:3 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.
Luk 13:5 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish."
Luk 15:7 I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.
Luk 15:10 Likewise, I say to you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents."
Luk 16:30 And he said, 'No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.'
Luk 17:3 Take heed to yourselves. If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him.
Luk 17:4 And if he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day returns to you, saying, 'I repent,' you shall forgive him."
Luk 24:47 and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
Act 2:38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Act 3:19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord,
Act 5:31 Him God has exalted to His right hand to be Prince and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins.
Act 8:22 Repent therefore of this your wickedness, and pray God if perhaps the thought of your heart may be forgiven you.
Act 11:18 When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, "Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance to life."
Act 13:24 after John had first preached, before His coming, the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel.
Act 17:30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent,
Act 19:4 Then Paul said, "John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on Him who would come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus."
Act 20:21 testifying to Jews, and also to Greeks, repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
Act 26:20 but declared first to those in Damascus and in Jerusalem, and throughout all the region of Judea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance.
Rom 2:4 Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?
2Co 7:9 Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance. For you were made sorry in a godly manner, that you might suffer loss from us in nothing.
@Turin21 *You are wrong once again. Mat 16 never once said R Church inherited any authority of Peter. Not once. So where is your proof that it did happen? By empty claims?*
*This is merely R Church's self claim. Not true in history and Scriptures.*
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But regardless Christ said (it's in the bible if you read it) "thou art Peter and upon this rock I ill build MY CHURCH" not churches! Jesus NEVER could have intended multiple "churches many with vastly different beliefs. Just think about it for a second. No matter how many foolish theories you have you can't get away from that verse. The bible can't contradict itself so you have to reconcile the whole bible and that's the Catholic teaching. You must come in line with the One Truth and not the Big L.
@Turin21 *If you claim otherwise, pls cite me what traditions of Pharisees or Moses did Jesus and Apostles appealed to as support for doctrines:*
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Awesome!👌 thank you for sharing. " You will know the truth and the truth will set you free..." ( John 8:32).
In his Revelation the Apostle John wrote; " And I saw the woman dressed in purple and scarlet, she was sitting on the beast, holding a golden cup, drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. On her forehead were written blaspheme words..." ( Revelation 17:6). Also, the Apostle Paul wrote; " But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse..." (Galatians 1:8); ( 2 Corinthians 1:8). Let's give All the Glory to God and praise our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen 🙏
So.....let us look at the first martyr in Acts 7: 55-56. Who has his blood on their hands ???
Stephen, a deacon in Jerusalem, was the first saint in Christ Jesus, who was martyred, condemned and stoned to death by religious Jewish ✡ pharisees, saducees and scribes...( Acts of the Apostle 7:8). Also, we should add the inquisitions which claimed the life of 50 million peoples and believers in Christ under Pope Innocent III ( 1198-1216), then under Pope Gregory IX (1233). Also to add to the blood of the saints the so called " Crusades " which claimed the life of at least two to six million peoples, under Pope Urban II, on November 27, 1095.
@@jackydebosard8297.............I have no proof of ' millions ' of deaths during the inquisitions or crusades but, there are the millions of abortions that continue even to today, with only the Catholic Church screaming for its end.
To mike teixeira. Hi mike, let's talk about serious spiritual issues and blasphemes.
DO NOT WORSHIP THE IDOL
Mary was highly favored by God and chosen as a human vessel for the fulfillment of God plan of Salvation for All. The virgin Mary was never intended as a human, to become a mediator between humans and God. ( Leviticus 26:1); ( Exodus 20:2-6); ( John 4:24).
" There is only One God and One Mediator who can reconcile God the Father and humanity - the man Christ Jesus..." ( 1 Timothy 2:5); ( Luke 1:26-38); (Romans 8:26-27); ( Exodus 20:4-5); ( Matthew 12:46-50).
Jesus replied; " The Scripture say, you must worship the Lord your God and serve only him..." (Luke 4:8); ( Luke 1:46-56); ( Luke 11:27-28).
Also, please read
Psalm 51:5 + Psalm 148:13 + Acts 4:12 +
@@jackydebosard8297......Au contraire !!! Mary is a proven intercessor..........see John 2: 1-11. She was told that Her Holy Son would inherit the throne of David in Luke 1: 32. In the Davidic reign, it was the mother who interceded for the people........see 1 Kings 2: 16-19. This is different than 1 Tim. 2: 5.
The Fulfillment of the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
@Michael Speyrer *We are not talking about rites which came mostly after 1500s. We are talking about this C which was original Church of ROme founded in ad 300s; currently called R Catholic Church.*
*Church of Rome in history was only a local church. Answer me. Since which year this local church became the Church or Universal Church?*
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The Catholic Church, again isn't only the Latin Rite, it is made up of 24 different parts, all of which agree with the entirety of the Orthodox World on the understanding of these texts and all have apostolic foundation, and they all disagree with you, as well as some protestant, non anti-Catholic scholars. This contradicts your premises.
J D. l believe what he is saying is if Traditions of a church No matter which church does Not
Equal the scriptures then they have added or taken away from GOD'S(Word) Purposes For Man. Shalowm AMEN HalleluYahh.
@Sola Fide Catholica *What m m doctrines you claimed Christians teach? List a few:*
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@@rickcampanella4254 *What about it?*
@Connor Mickelson *Isnt this what R Church is doing. Inventing new doctrines outside Scriptures?*
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People can make docterines without doing the exact thing that the Bible says. You should try and learn about religions other than yours.
@Tom Rodgers *Why read that when it contradicts the Scriptures in every possible ways? Why not read the Bible itself?*
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Regards to predestination I would have go in detail the meaning. Read the Caticisum.
But you say, ‘If a man tells his father or his mother, “Whatever you would have gained from me is Corban”’ (that is, given to God) then you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or mother,
thus making void the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.
@lex ora I have no traditions. Your wrong at the outset. Want to try again?
@lex ora can you read english?
@lex ora Yeah I didn't think so. That's ok, English is a very hard language. When you can read it and comprehend enough to make a response, feel free to talk to me. A response is simply responding to what a person says. I have been all to aware that when English is not your first language it's idiosyncrasies can go above your head.
I do not converse with people who talk at me. It's literally pointless.
reessayer.
Vaya con Dios
P.S. When your comprehension improves here is a good question to answer.
Do you think that Christianity approves or rejects the breaking up of a marriage and selling the wife into slavery?
@lex ora Great, you agree with the Protestant/reformers on at least one thing that the Roman Catholic church shouldn't be doing. That would be selling their own Priests wives into slavery after dissolving the union.
If you also get to have both elements at the Lords Supper feel free to thank the nearest protestant as at that time the wine/blood was considered too Holy for the non-priest to have. There are still places today where Roman Catholic priests administer only the bread to church goer.
I could go on, some of the protestants stayed in the Roman Catholic church and corrected its doctrine internally in accordance to what the protestants were accusing. As a funny aside you would agree with the protestants on at least 75% of their complaints if you knew what they were. Most of the them were only concerning the RCC of violating their own bylaws, not doctrinal disputes. That is unless your ok with the RCC violating their own bylaws.
You said "The Catholic church decides what us a valid marriage"
"Only "God" decided what is a valid marriage"
There fixed it for you.
This was defined in writing in the OG OT to Moses and the Jews by God, not the Roman Catholic church. You can find this in Genesis and Expounded later by Moses and restated by the Apostle Paul. Hint it hasn't changed. The church has only one role, to agree with God.
@lex ora Your ignorance of the history of the Roman Catholic church simply amazes me. All I can say is keep working on your reading, you'll find it eventually. Assuming your looking for truth. At the moment it's clear that your not.
Oh and I'm still not a protestant. It was clear to me that the protestants took too much of the false Roman dogma with them. They got rid of most of it, but it only takes a little poison to ruin a good thing. The good news is that the Roman Catholics church also purged much of the poison too. Now they only have a little left, unfortunately it's also central to their doctrines.
Well seeing as how you are a clear bad faith interlocutor I wont be wasting my time responding to any more of your personal opinions. It's litterally history you can go read it for yourself.
Vaya con Dios.
@Connor Mickelson *WHy dont you compare what is in R Church's decor with what the Bible says? Is that really still decor?*
Carved image = statues!
Deu 4:16 lest you act corruptly and make for yourselves a carved image in the form of any figure: the likeness of male or female,
Exo 20:4 "You shall not make for yourself a carved image-any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth;
Exo 23:24 You shall not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do according to their works; but you shall utterly overthrow them and completely break down their sacred pillars.
Lev 26:1 'You shall not make idols for yourselves; neither a carved image nor a sacred pillar shall you rear up for yourselves; nor shall you set up an engraved stone in your land, to bow down to it; for I am the LORD your God.
Deu 4:23 Take heed to yourselves, lest you forget the covenant of the LORD your God which He made with you, and make for yourselves a carved image in the form of anything which the LORD your God has forbidden you.
Deu 4:25 "When you beget children and grandchildren and have grown old in the land, and act corruptly and make a carved image in the form of anything, and do evil in the sight of the LORD your God to provoke Him to anger,
Deu 5:8 'You shall not make for yourself a carved image-any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth;
Deu 27:15 'Cursed is the one who makes a carved or molded image, an abomination to the LORD, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and sets it up in secret.' "And all the people shall answer and say, 'Amen!'
Hebrew word for worship:
shâchâh
shaw-khaw'
A primitive root; to depress, that is, prostrate (especially reflexively in homage to royalty or God): - bow (self) down, crouch, fall down (flat), humbly beseech, do (make) obeisance, do reverence, make to stoop, worship.
Greek word for worship:
προσκυνέω
proskuneō
pros-koo-neh'-o
From G4314 and probably a derivative of G2965 (meaning to kiss, like a dog licking his master’s hand); to fawn or crouch to, that is, (literally or figuratively) prostrate oneself in homage (do reverence to, adore): - worship.
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We do not worship the statues they are only used as a decoration in our churches
Hebrews 10:7 Then said I Lol I come in the volume of the Book 📖 it is written of me to do thy will O God ✝️🙏Praise the Lord 🙌
also Yahusha is the son of man's name who came in the name of the father YAHUAH our ALAHIM to deliver us all if we believe and obey the Sabbath
My boss is Catholic and I wouldn't like to call myself Protestant just somebody who drives their best to read the Bible and follow that alone and I try not to read any bias out of the Bible this means that there are things in the Bible that I might not like to have believed but I have to in order to follow Jesus Christ, so my boss's Catholic and I was talking to him about the Bible and he says I'm not really into that I'm more about the traditions and I thought it was interesting that the Bible said in Jesus said do not let your dishes get in the way of the word of God and he doesn't read the word of God he only goes by the traditions
@@margaretlobo9466 John 21:25 does not say the scriptures are insufficient , it says that there are more things that Jesus did that are not recorded, that is not insufficient at all. 2 Tim 3:15-17 Paul tells Timothy that EVERYTHING he needs to be thoroughly equipped is in the scriptures ( old testament ) and that is what the early church had.
Moreover, Paul confirms below that the ( Catholic ) Church is the Pillar and ground of Truth. This is because the Church is the Body of Christ
Yes the church is the body of Christ but lets not designate it by a name that Jesus Himself never gave it. What does Jesus call His church? Matthew 16:18
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The Sola Scriptura - Scripture Alone - of Protestantism is not in the Bible.
You are correct there is no verse that says scripture only , however we do see that the majority of doctrines are either stated or by example. The example set by Jesus and the apostles was to quote scripture as proof.
3 Proofs
First - In 2 Timothy 3:16-17 we read that Scripture is given to equip us for - Every - Good Work
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
So what part of thoroughly means you need more?
Second - Matt. 7. [21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
What is the Father's will ??
Matthew chapter 6 states that the Father who sees in secret will - reward - Prayers, Fasting, Almsgiving and Good Works. Obviously, the Father rewards us for carrying out His will in the above actions which shows our Love for God and Neighbour, as Jesus commanded - not suggested. Here - Love - is a verb or action word.
This last statement has absolutely nothing to do with scripture alone being not good enough!
Third - Because we are responsible for all sins after Baptism, Jesus on the very day of His Resurrection from the dead, breathed His Spirit and - empowered - all the Apostles to forgive - or retain - Sins - John 20:22-23. This breathing was the same as the Breath that gave the life-force to the earth-created Adam - Genesis 2:7.
Yes ,we are responsible to confess our sins as believers , but we confess those sins to the one who will cleanse us of ALL unrighteousness not to someone standing in for Christ who has no power to forgive sins . 1 John 1:9
God in his justice uses “the blood of Jesus his Son [to cleanse] us from all sin” (1 John 1:7). Sin does not go unpunished. God’s Son took the punishment for us. That is the only way this forgiveness, this cleansing, is just. The debt has been paid. Not only do we get to bring the pain of our sin to God, but we get to bring our sinned-against pain to God. He leaves no debt unpaid. He not only provides forgiveness to each and every one of us, but he provides the grace for us to forgive one another.
Therefore Catholics confess to their Priests, as Apostles don't live forever. Confession thus restores the Life-Force to souls deadened by sin, especially Deadly ( Mortal ) sins -
This is where the truth gets blurred as Jesus died for ALL of your sins and if you read Eph 2:1-8 you will see that being born again which is a must have, just like repentance , that God has placed your spirit ( born again part of you ) with Jesus in the heavenly realm with Jesus . Your spirit does not and is not capable of sin. Your flesh is what we live in and is gradually changed by the renewing of our minds by the Holy Spirit who not only seals us to the day of redemption but carries on His renewing of your flesh till the day you pass on.
Amazingly enough there is no verse that even hints that you can lose your God given gift of salvation , or that the Holy Spirit will remove His seal upon the believer for any reason or that God will remove your spirit from the heavenly realm with Jesus for any sin.
Why ?because when we repent Jesus forgives ALL of our sins past, present, and future .
This is not what you have been taught .
You have been taught to listen to the roman Catholic church and lean not to personal interpretation as found in 2 Peter 1:20 but read the context and you find that verse 20 is with ,not separate from, verse 21 which explains what is being talked about.
James 5:16-17. Protestants don't confess and thereby retain their sins.
16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.
Therefore confess your sins one to another for Forgiveness?
No it clearly says you and I are to confess our sins to each other for healing not forgiveness of sins.
It also claims that the righteous mans prayer is powerful and effective . When we become believers and confess our sins to God 1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness”
So if we are cleansed from ALL unrighteousness what are we left with? That's right we now have the righteousness of Christ and can pray effectively.
And because we still retain our Fallen Natures, Jesus has given us His Flesh to eat and Blood to drink as - Real Food and Drink - for Eternal Life - John 6:53-58.
Yes this sounds good but the Passover meal that Jesus had on the last night of His life where He said do this in remembrance of Me , did not have a single glass of wine but four of them, and the host otherwise known as Matzo was a special wafer not a cracker.
Matzah or matzo is an unleavened flatbread that is part of Jewish cuisine and forms an integral element of the Passover festival
So take another look at 1 Corinthians 11
;20-27 and you see why there is an admonition in verse 27 . Context makes this verse 27 clear .
(Ephesians 2:10) For we are God's handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
Eph 2:9 tells us that nothing we do is good enough and verse 10 tells us that we were created to do the work of God. Not one verse in Ephecians tells us to work for salvation but several verses telling us that it is by grace and God's gift . Works has nothing to do with salvation.
And James declared - Faith without works is dead -James 2:26).
Lets have a look at James 1:1 who is James addressing?
Hmmmn not the gentiles . James is telling the Jews that they have faith in God but that faith will not save the, ? Why ? Because the Jews had faith in God but did not accept Jesus as their messiah. Jesus addresses the Jews and tells them clearly John 6:27 Do not work for food that perishes, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on Him God the Father has placed His seal of approval.” 28T hen they inquired, “What must we do to perform the works of God?” 29 Jesus replied, “The work of God is this: to believe in the One He has sent.”…
It is so much easier to grab a verse out of context and show all what you think it means
By "Sola Scriptura" Protestants are only receiving part of Divine Truth. Catholics, on the other hand, hold the whole truth
When you are taught the word but not the meaning you can come to the conclusion so many people make about scripture only.
Sola Scriptura is saying that The New Testament is the Life and Teachings of Jesus and the original Apostles and the First Churches.. Sola Scriptura just points to THEM not just the Holy Spirit inspired Words, but the Holy Spirit inspired Authors/leaders and their Proven Authority as the true source to prove or test or Disprove future so called 'leaders' or future claims and teachings. Sola Scriptura means going all the way back directly to Jesus, John, Paul, James, Peter, Mark, Luke, Matthew, Moses, David, etc.. and going back to Their Lives, and Their preserved written teachings and traditions. Sola scriptura skips the questionable 'middle-men'.... thousands of years of Post New Testament groups and so called 'leaders' and takes you back to the first Source Leaders that were confirmed and are not questionable. This is the best way. Skip Luther and Skip the Vatican and just Learn the Truth Directly from Moses, David, Jesus, John, Paul, James, Peter, Etc... Please read the whole New Testament... you will find no popes, no cathedrals, no Statues, no Marian dogmas, no prayers to dead saints, No Vatican, No wafers, No fancy Robes, No Christian thrones. Please Follow Jesus and Him Alone.
Since the Bible doesn't contradict itself, any interpretation of a specific passage that contradicts the general teaching of the Bible is to be rejected.
Just remember that we ,you and I , have been told by someone else what the other believes and does. example -Denominational believers sit around in coffee shops swilling coffee and depend on a dead faith that does nothing for anyone ? Spiritual pride says we are better than them!
John 14:6 excludes anyone other than Jesus!
Thanks for your reply and be blessed by our savior Jesus.
Yet you feel so comfortable criticizing his faith , how absolutely precious
If he goes to mass regularly he DOES read the Bible , we read old AND new plus gospel ! Dork
@@margaretlobo9466 great job! You are so correct
Psalm 23:23:: Buy the truth and SELL IT NOT... BUY THE Truth and Sell it NOT..Amen..
➔ All of the following things that Protestants attack can be found in the Bible: Holy images are BIBLICAL and are not "Idols" ....
➔CARVED IMAGES IN THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD, INTERCESSION OF MARY AND THE SAINTS, HONOURING MARY, AND BOWING AS A SIGN OF HONOUR AND RESPECT
(All copied from the protestant version of the bible by Cynthia X)
Sacred Images are Biblical & mocking & destroying them is a serious sin, an act of blasphemy:
➨ SACRED IMAGES: Sacred images are not idols and it is an act of blasphemy to attack them:
● EXODUS 25:18-22 God commands Moses to make STATUES of Angels.
● NUMBERS 21:8-9 God commands another image to be made, a serpent.
● EZEKIEL 41:18-25 KJV
➔ EZEKIEL's VISION OF THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD ADORNED WITH CARVED IMAGES: ...
18 And it was made with CHERUBIMS (ANGELS) and PALM TREES, so that a palm tree was between a CHERUB and EVERY CHERUB HAD TWO FACES;
19 So that the FACE OF A MAN was toward the PALM TREE on the one side, and the FACE OF A LION toward the PALM TREE on the other side: it was made through all the house round about.
20 From the ground unto above the door were CHERUBIMS (ANGELS) and PALM TREES made, and on the wall of the temple.
21 The posts of the temple were squared, and the face of the sanctuary; the appearance of the one as the appearance of the other.
22 The altar of wood was three cubits high, and the length thereof two cubits; and the corners thereof, and the length thereof, and the walls thereof, were of wood: and he said unto me, This is the table that is before the Lord.
23 And the temple and the sanctuary had two doors.
24 And the doors had two LEAVES apiece, two turning leaves; two leaves for the one door, and two leaves for the other door.
25 And there were made on them, on the doors of the temple, CHERUBIMS and PALM TREES, like as were made upon the walls; and there were thick planks upon the face of the porch without.
➨ BOWING as a sign of honour / respect:
●1 KINGS 2:19 Solomon bows to his Mother. (he HONOURS Her)
● JOSHUA 7:6: 6 Joshua & the elders of Israel tore their clothing and lay prostrate (face down on the ground) before the Ark of the Lord. (an OBJECT)
➨ INTERCESSION OF MARY & THE SAINTS IN THE BIBLE ...INCLUDING BIBLICAL PROOF that SAINTS ARE NOT AMONG THE DEAD:
The Protestant claim that we are forbidden to speak to / pray to Mary and the saints is NOWHERE in the Bible. In fact, the following scriptures were copied (by me) directly from the Protestant version of the Bible: ...
➨INTERCESSION of a holy person on our behalf:
● JOB 42:8 8 Now therefore take seven bulls and seven rams, and GO TO MY SERVANT JOB, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and MY SERVANT Job SHALL PRAY FOR YOU, FOR I WILL ACCEPT HIS PRAYER NOT TO DEAL WITH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR FOLLY; for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has.
➨INTERCESSION of MARY: JOHN 2:1 At the wedding feast at Cana, it was Mary who asked Jesus to help the wedding party.
➨INTERCESSION OF THE SAINTS: REV 5:8 The prayers of the Saints are offered to Jesus the lamb.
➨The KING Honours his mother's request:
● 1 KINGS 2:20: Then she said, “I have one small request to make of you; do not refuse me.” And the king said to her, “Make your request, my mother, for I will not refuse you.”
(Jesus is the Greatest King and he also honours his mother's requests)
SAINTS ALSO WORKED MIRACLES:
➨ JOHN 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
➨ PAUL RAISES A MAN FROM THE DEAD:
● ACTS 20:7-12
9 And there sat in a window a certain young man named Eutychus, being fallen into a deep sleep: and as Paul was long preaching, he sunk down with sleep, and fell down from the third loft, and was taken up dead.
10 And Paul went down, and fell on him, and embracing him said, Trouble not yourselves; for his life is in him.20:
● MARK 6:12-13...
12 They went out and preached that people should repent.
13 They drove out many demons and anointed many sick people with oil and healed them.
● ACTS 19:12 The Handkerchief of Paul healed sick people:
12 so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them.
● ACTS 5:15 The shadow of Peter healed the sick:
so that they brought the sick out into the streets and laid them on beds and couches, that at least the shadow of Peter passing by might fall on some of them.
➨SAINTS ARE NOT AMONG THE DEAD: AND THEIR INTERCESSION IS BIBLICAL: They share in the ressurrection of Jesus: (Protestants attack Biblical saints while they follow dead reformers)
● MATTHEW 27: 52 -53: When Jesus was raised from the dead Many were raised up with him. 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
● LUKE 23 v 39-43...Jesus told the good thief "today you will be with me in paradise"
● REV 19 v 14...when Jesus returns he will be accompanied by his heavenly armies of saints.
● 2 COR 5 v 8...Paul tells us that to be absent with the body is to be with the Lord.
● JOHN 11 v 25-26...Jesus said I am the ressurrection and the life, he who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives, believing in me will never die.
● LUKE 1619-30 The story of the rich man and Lazarus show The Rich man, Lazarus and Abraham, all concious and interacting with each other even though they have physically died.
● LUKE 9:30-31 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias:
31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.
(Moses & Elijah were alive, and were yalking with Jesus)
● REV 6:10 The souls of the martyrs are before the throne of God, crying out for justice. (they are conscious and actively petitioning God)
● HEB 12:1-3 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us,
● MATT 17:1-13 ...At the Transfiguration of Jesus, he is seen speaking to Moses and Elijah, further showing that Holy ones of God are not among the dead.
➨HONOURING MARY: LUKE 1:48: All generations will call Mary Blessed. We Catholics are the ones who call her the BLESSED Virgin Mary and treat her accordingly.
RELICS OF THE SAINTSS
● 2 Kings 13:21
The Bones of Elijah revived a man:
21 And it came to pass, as they were burying a man, that, behold, they spied a band of men; and they cast the man into the sepulchre of Elisha: and when the man was let down, and touched the bones of Elisha, he revived, and stood up on his feet
● ACTS 19:12 The Handkerchief of Paul healed sick people:
12 so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them.
● ACTS 5:15 The shadow of Peter healed the sick:
so that they brought the sick out into the streets and laid them on beds and couches, that at least the shadow of Peter passing by might fall on some of them.
● MARK 6:12-13...
12 They went out and preached that people should repent.
13 They drove out many demons and anointed many sick people with oil and healed them.
(the use of oil, a material substance was used to heal people)
➨NOWHERE does the bible permit protestants (or anyone else) to Scrutinize & monitor the prayers of other people, nor to judge their sincerity or their salvation.
Protestantism does not come from jesus. It began with Martin Luther in 1517 & exists Only to oppose the Catholic church which Jesus founded 15 centuries B4 the protestant revolt. They only know & accept the PARTS of the Bible that suit them and they do not have an accurate bible either.
@Turin21 *There were so many local canons by local churches. You didnt' know?*
Clement of Rome mentioned at least eight New Testament books (AD 95).
Ignatius of Antioch acknowledged about seven books (AD 115).
Polycarp, a disciple of John the apostle, acknowledged 15 books (AD 108).
Later, Irenaeus mentioned 21 books (AD 185).
Hippolytus recognized 22 books (AD 170-235).
The New Testament books receiving the most controversy were Hebrews, James, 2 Peter, 2 John, and 3 John.
The first “canon” was the Muratorian Canon (AD 170). The Muratorian Canon included all of the 27 books except Hebrews, James, and 3 John.
Eusebius of Caesarea (AD 320-330) recognized 22 books, 5 as doubtful.
Cyril of Jerusalem (AD 350) recognised 27 books exclude Revelation include Gospel of Thomas.
Council of Laodicea (AD 363) stated that only the Old Testament (along with one book of the Apocrypha) and 26 books of the New Testament (everything but Revelation) were canonical and to be read in the churches.
Athanasius of Alexandria (AD 367) recognised 27 books as authoritative.
Gregory of Nazianus (AD 390) recognised 27 books as authoritative.
The Council of Hippo (AD 393-419) African canons affirmed 27 books as authoritative.
Jerome (AD 394) recognised 27 books as authoritative.
Augustine of Hippo (AD 395-400) affirmed 27 books as authoritative.
The Council of Carthage (AD 397) affirmed 26 books as authoritative exclude Revelation.
The Council of Carthage (AD 419) affirmed 27 books as authoritative.
the canon itself is a product of tradition
@@wjm5972 *Bible does say Church (referring to all churches, not R Church) has certain authority to make decisions. The Church discovered the canon over centuries. Not R Church.*
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the canon itself is a product of tradition
One question - How did you get the Bible?????
From God!
@@jesusfaith2232 It was compiled by the Catholic Church.
and then not followed by the catholic church,,,@@godfridahkatentemuna3277 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Please read the bible my friend and the history of the Catholic Church bible came from God
@@godfridahkatentemuna3277 A gnostic heretic named Marcion made the first compilation that we know today as the Bible. The Catholic church only bothered with it after the fact.
@Robin L *1. Canon was finalised by all churches. Not R Church. So why would R Church have any authority? If you claim R Church had all authority, where did that authority come from? Self declared??*
*2. You ask S questions. They worshipped Jesus as per normal. Apostles were still passing down knowledge then.*
*3. 40k refers to all kinds of Christian groups, including JW, SDA, Christian science, Rcc, Orthos. Not referring to Christians only. You do not seem to know. 40k are just churches. Bible mentions churches. God loves churches. Why R Church does the opposite?*
*4. Bible does not even mention pope or papacy or Primacy of rome. So where did you self made doctrines come from?*
And you Testament in property is do not add or take away From my words . Catholic Church has added and taken away if you look about not having any other gods they changed it and if you look at the the X books that's adding to God's word god forbids adding or taking away it's a serious offence.
Actually Luther removed books. The church which gave you 27 New Testament inspired books also gave you 46 Old Testament inspired books. If the 27 books are from God then so are the 46.
@@bridgefin that's a distraction that the Catholics use. Without getting into much details how does those 7 intertestament books add or take away from the New testament that clearly establishes Jesus as the source of Salvation, the author and finisher of my faith, My high priest whose throne of grace I have direct access to.
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Where did you et that New Testament from? Is it of divine origin? Who said it was?
@@bridgefin Jesus said that heaven and earth will pass away but his words will never pass away. So I trust that Jesus used his faithful followers to preserve his new testament words. Were those followers members of the Catholic Church? For argument sake, let's say yes.
1. Does that make the Church on equal authority with God's word? Many Catholics seem to think so. But that is erroneous.
2. Does that make the Church infallible? Even more erroneous.
God/Jesus used the Jews to preserve and pass on the old testament for thousands of years and what did they do? They became puffed up, made their TRADITIONS on equal par with Scriptures, Something that Jesus abhorred and rebuked, and yet still the Catholic Church has ran headlong into that same ERROR.
On top of all that the Jews whom God used to preserve his word, rejected Jesus and placed him on the cross.
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You: Does that make the Church on equal authority with God's word? Many Catholics seem to think so. But that is erroneous.
Me: Not the point. If God used the Catholic Church to reveal the canon of the 27 then why would you question God's authority when God gave us 46 books in the OT in the same document? If the 27 are God's then so are the 46.
2. Does that make the Church infallible? Even more erroneous.
Me: Do you consider the list of 27 infallible?
God/Jesus used the Jews to preserve and pass on the old testament for thousands of years and what did they do? They became puffed up, made their TRADITIONS on equal par with Scriptures,
Me: What the Jews did not have was Jesus' promise to sent the spirit of truth to the leaders of the Catholic Church, the apostles, to be with them forever.
When you accept what the Catholic Church teaches you are receiving Holy Spirit doctrine.
@Turin21 *Then how come 95% of R Church doctrines did not come from Scriptures or contradict Scriptures? Pls explain that. *95% of Rc doctrines are unheard of in 1st century and not from traditions of Jesus and Apostles or Scriptures or contradicts Scriptures! Nt Church of the Bible had not heard or practised any of these Rc doctrines.*
1. Purgatory 2. Confessing to priests 3. Office of pope or priests4. Pope being the vicar (representation of Christ, usurping the authority of God)5. Praying to Mary, saints6. Penance 7. Worshipping idols/images, placing idols images in church8. Church in the Bible is not building, but the body of believers9. Sacrament was never the real body and blood of Christ as RC church claimed (Real meaning real blood and body, bcos it didnt really turned "bloody" did it?)10. Salvation by (works (7sacraments) +faith) was never in the Bible. Real salvation is by grace through faith as seen in Bible. 11. Rosary, set repetitive prayers, hail Mary 10000 times12. Mass - putting Christ on the altar again and again13. Mary as queen of heaven 14. Mary as Ark of the new covenant. 15. Mary as the mother of heavenly Jesus thus Mary exist before Christ16. Immersion of infant for baptism17. Holy water18. Celibacy of priests (no office of priests in NT anyway, only priesthood of all believers)19. Kissing of statues20. Changing of 10 commandments. COmmandment of graven image removed by Catholic CHurch in Catholic Catechism. Splitting of another commandment into 2 commandments. 21. Catholic church changed Bible verse Gen 3:15 (And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel."). 'He' and 'His' referring to Christ.
Catholics changed it to (Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; She shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise Her heel.") 'She' and 'Her' refers to Mary. 22. Catholic Church use Rev 12 to refer to Mary as 'queen of heaven', when Rev 12:6 clearly refers to Israel escaping the Great Tribulation. Mary cannot be alive to escape the Great Tribulation. 23. Catholic Church refers to Mary as 'Queen of heaven', but 'Queen of Mary' in the Bible is a demonic entity Astoreth or Ishtar, the female deity partner of Baal. 5 verses in Jeremiah as proof.24. Catholic church refers to Mary as the Mediatress, Co redemptress, helper of Christ, firstborn of all creation ..
Mary cannot be the mediatress. Jesus is the one and only Mediator between God and man. Only Jesus redeems. Only the Holy Spirit is the Helper sent by Jesus. Only Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. 25. Roman Catholicism has “saints” one can pray to in order to gain a particular blessing. For example, Saint Gianna Beretta Molla is the patron saint of fertility. Francis of Assisi is the patron saint of animals. There are multiple patron saints of healing and comfort.
Nowhere is even a hint of this taught in Scripture. Just as the Roman pantheon of gods had a god of love, a god of peace, a god of war, a god of strength, a god of wisdom, etc., so the Catholic Church has a saint who is “in charge” over each of these and many other categories. Many Roman cities had a god specific to the city, and the Catholic Church provided “patron saints” for cities as well.26. Mary is called the gate of heaven? Mary has keys to paradise?
Here are roman pagan teachers saying their man made goddess is their savior. None of these quotes have been denounced, on the contrary they are cited.
"Open to us, O Mary, the gate of Paradise, since you have its keys! " St. Ambrose
"God has entrusted the keys and treasures of Heaven to Mary." St. Thomas Aquinas
"No one can enter into Heaven except through Mary, as entering through a gate. " St. Bonaventure
"Mary is called "The Gate of Heaven" because no one can enter Heaven but through her means." St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori
Papal infallibility
Immaculate Mary
Assumption of Mary
Perpetual Virgin
Mary as Mother of God,
co mediatrix,
co redemptrix,
new ark of covenant,
Pope as vicar,
Holy Water,
papacy,
peter as first pope,
papal succession,
apostolic succession,
indulgences,
7 sacraments,
rosary
veneration of saints and statues
celibacy of priesthood
canonization of saints
limbo
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The bible can't contradict itself
God set aside & made Holy Saturday, not Sunday, Catholic Church changed it to Sunday because they hated the Jews & wanted power over the Pagan Sun worshippers.Mary worship no where in the Bible is it stated she is to be elevated to Jesus the Saviour in fact she said in the Bible that she needs a Saviour.
@@heatherprice588 *Where in the Bible ever said “Gentile believers need to keep 7th day Sabbath as a law”? Where? I would love to see proof. Not claims.*
@@faithalone2171The Jerusalem council decided the requirements for Gentile believers.
@@gregorylatta8159 *Yes except they based it on God’s Word. Not their own words.*
@@heatherprice588 I am not catholic, but every day is holy to God because He created it. Some people are not able to worship on Saturdays or Sundays for whatever reasons, so they worship on Mondays and other days. Jesus is the Lord of the sabbath. We find our rest/sabbath by putting our trust in Him.
@Andrew Drew *R Catholics love misquoting Scriptures. Heb 9:9 most certainly did not say "When you partake of the Eucharist you enter into the covenant". Which part says so?*
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When you partake of the Eucharist you enter into the covenant of the living God,
Hebrews 9:9
9 which is a symbol for the present time. Accordingly both gifts and sacrifices are offered which cannot make the worshiper perfect in conscience,
@Men of Virtue *Still dodging .... R Church teach dodging? Where in the Bible says "Only R Church can interpret Scriptures" or "R Church is infallible interpreter"?*
@Andrew Drew *In the first place R Church bread was not blessed by Jesus personally too. So its also unconsecrated bread and un "transub" bread. So S enters all R Catholics isnt it?*
Of all the religions, God has favoured Catholic Christianity, more than all others, with His presence and manifestations in the past 2,000 years. Catholics have been favoured with Eucharistic Miracles- like the 1996 Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires, Argentina & in Lanciano, Italy in the 8th C - among many others.
(( Note - Satanists will steal a consecrated " Catholic " Holy Communion host for use in their diabolical " Black Masses'' They will keep away from the communion hosts of near-Catholic Protestant denominations like the Anglicans, Methodists and the Lutherans precisely because these don't have the Presence of Jesus. ))
@@margaretlobo9466 *God did not favour r ctism. R Ct amasses it’s wealth but confiscating properties from true believers they claimed as cts. This is devilish behaviour.*
@@margaretlobo9466 *Rct does not have Real Presence. Only m m doctrines of Mass (sacrificing Jesus on the altar back to God) and transubstantiation (elements transforms into Jesus to be eaten by r Catholics)*
@@faithalone2171 YOU = R Ct amasses it’s wealth but confiscating properties from true believers they claimed as cts. This is devilish behaviour.
ME = Why did the - Protestant - Pilgrims (and Puritans ) leave - Protestant - England and Europe for America =
“Once they decided that the only way they could be true to their conscience was to leave the established church and secretly worship, they were hunted and persecuted, and many of them faced the loss of their homes and the loss of their livelihood,” says Donna Curtin, executive director of the Pilgrim Hall Museum in Plymouth, Massachusetts. “When it became impossible for them to continue in this way, they began to seek another place to live.”
ME = What sort of behaviour is this ????
@@margaretlobo9466 *What pilgrims what puritan. Your copy pastingofns is hilarious. Try harder.*
@Turin21 *I love your tales. Mat 22 was not only about Sadducees. It was also about Pharisees too. They did believe in the Old Testament. In the first place how does it disprove Scripture Alone? Lol*
Mat 22:34 But when the Pharisees heard that He had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together.
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Consider his dispute with the Sadducees in Matthew 22:23-33 over the resurrection of the body. The Sadducees, who accepted as inspired only the Pentateuch (the first five books of the Old Testament), didn’t believe in the resurrection of the body.
@Turin21 *You are still dodging.*
*So which Ecumenical Council with bishops of all churches fixed the canon? Cite one? You can't?*
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There were no other denominations or "churches" of other Christians with bishops at that time.
@Tom Rodgers *Bible does not say Scriptures came from the R Church. Neither R Church = the Church or Universal Church. History did not say so too. You are just making empty claims.*
*Bible says Oracles of God - the Scriptures came through the Jews. Romans 3:1-2. Not R Catholics.*
*Scriptures came by AD100s. Bible came much later by the decision of all churches. Not R Church.*
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Scripture was handed down to one Church the Catholic Church.
@Andrew Drew *Really? Where in John 6 says "The bread and wine become the body and blood transubstantiated by the energies of Holy Spirit."? Where? You are adding to Scriptures what it does not say?? Rev 22:18-19 is for you.*
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The bread and wine become the body and blood transubstantiated by the energies of Holy Spirit.
The eucharist is symbolic, for Jesus Himself forbids consumption of blood. To the Roman Catholic that believes the fruit juice and wafer turn into actual flesh and blood--after the minister mutters a meaningless phrase in Latin--does the wafer than tast like meat, and juice taste like blood?
As an ex-catholic who took "communion" every week, I assure you the wafer did not change into flesh, nor did the fruit juice change to blood...not for me or anybody else that attended St. Mary's church, though Mary does not have a church. Only Jesus has a church. Good grief! How can they not see the falsehood of papal Rome?
@Michael *So which part says Philistines "touched" the Ark? If they did not touch how they die instantly?*
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The Philistines did not die instantly when they captured the Ark........did they ???
How did they move it from the battle field to their city ???
@Michael *You do not know there is such thing as a pole? or 4 poles that's connected to the Ark?*
Exo 37:5 And he put the poles into the rings at the sides of the ark, to bear the ark.
@@jediv9492........So YOU think that the Philistines followed God's instructions in Exodus 25: 10-16 ??? See 1 Sam. 5, 6.
@@Michael-nb4ng *Your guess is as good as mine. Speculation is Not a proof for doctrines. Where in the Bible says they touched the Ark?*
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......So YOU think that the Philistines followed God's instructions in Exodus 25: 10-16 ??? See 1 Sam. 5, 6.
@Andrew Drew *We just did. Nowhere says Judas at unconsecrated or un transub bread. Nowhere says he left without eating blessed bread. You will have to prove your claims. Not me.*
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study all the accounts and you will work it out .
@Michael Speyrer *You claimed to have read the Bible and have a Masters but cannot answer?*
*nt church of the Apostles did not have such practices. Answer me: did apostles make and bow down to statues? Did Apostles ask passed on saints to pray for them? Or sprinkle "holy" water on believers? Or wore fishhead hat and costumes? Or cite hocus pocus when they serve the communion? They merely broke bread and passed around the table. Did they demand believers to kneel in front of them to serve them communion? Or did Peter ask believers to kiss his hands and feet? Or did Apostles venerate statues, bones or relics?*
The apostles are the saints of the early Church.
@Michael *Bible says all believers are saints. Dont you ever read the Bible cerebrumwashed R Catholic?*
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The apostles ARE the saints........our cloud of witnesses........see Hebrews 12: 1.
@Michael *I bet you dont even know there is no such thing as canonised R church saints in the Bible. In all the usages of the word "saint"in the Bible, saints always refer to general believers. Not some special class of r church believers who are so called "holy" or have had some "achievements"?*
*Paul cant be talking about ministering to dead saints can he>?*
Rom_15:25 But now I am going to Jerusalem to minister to the saints.
Rom_15:26 For it pleased those from Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor among the saints who are in Jerusalem.
Rom_15:31 that I may be delivered from those in Judea who do not believe, and that my service for Jerusalem may be acceptable to the saints,
There you go:
More verses.
Rom_1:7 To all who are in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Rom_8:27 Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Rom_12:13 distributing to the needs of the saints, given to hospitality.
Rom_16:2 that you may receive her in the Lord in a manner worthy of the saints, and assist her in whatever business she has need of you; for indeed she has been a helper of many and of myself also.
Rom_16:15 Greet Philologus and Julia, Nereus and his sister, and Olympas, and all the saints who are with them.
1Co_1:2 To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all who in every place call on the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
1Co_6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints?
1Co_6:2 Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.
1Co_16:1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given orders to the churches of Galatia, so you must do also:
1Co_16:15 I urge you, brethren-you know the household of Stephanas, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and that they have devoted themselves to the ministry of the saints-
2Co_1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, To the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints who are in all Achaia:
2Co_8:4 imploring us with much urgency that we would receive the gift and the fellowship of the ministering to the saints.
2Co_9:1 Now concerning the ministering to the saints, it is superfluous for me to write to you;
2Co_9:12 For the administration of this service not only supplies the needs of the saints, but also is abounding through many thanksgivings to God,
2Co_13:13 All the saints greet you.
Eph_1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, To the saints who are in Ephesus, and faithful in Christ Jesus:
Eph_1:15 Therefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints,
Eph_1:18 the eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints,
Eph_2:19 Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God,
@@jediv9492......Ok, St. Je diV
@Michael *You dont even know believers are called saints in the Bible. Dont you ever read the Bible?*
Please where is your Church located?
so i never go there.
Juvenile troll!
I was a Catholic but then I read my Bible, and I realized I had to leave the Catholic Church, and I had to join the Pentecostal Church ... the Baptist Church ... the Seventh-Day Adventists ... the Methodists ... the Church of Christ ... the ... Question - If I, a Catholic, leave the Catholic Church, which church should I join, and why?
The " church" you should join is JESUS' CHURCH. In the Bible church is the group of believers who follow & submit to Jesus as Lord, and as HE taught & approved in God's Word THE BIBLE. Look for a group of people who focus on God's Word every week & put Jesus'2 commandments ( LOVE THE LORD & YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF). Nothing else is mandatory, just God and His Word. (80% of Catholic teachings are outside the Bible & manmade, & 80% of Catholic salvation is human works & unbiblical beliefs). Choose manmade apostasy or TRUTH.
I suggest you follow Christ, the early church met in homes and different people led the sermons.
They would read the scriptures then discuss them.
Come to the Lord my brother, and help us to spread the Gospel Christ, that's what i belong, thats where you belong, there is all believers belong; the Chruch of Christ which it's not in earth, but in the Lord.
God bless you my brother💟
For the person that said which church you should leave, you should leave for a nondenominational church. Where did all these denominations come from? Anyway Jesus was not a denomination. He was a Christian or he was the head leader as what a Christian should be rather I should say. So anyone who follows the life of Jesus is a Christian is a simple gospel that we are saved by grace and Grace alone. God is three distinct personalities God, if we believe in the intangibles and the certain of the gospel, we are saved. Human beings have desire to want to create a religion, which is their way to finding God rather than the God that is, which is truth.
@Michael Speyrer *1. You havent proven its accepted by every branch. You merely claimed. 2. Accepted does not mean its truth. Bible says God's Word is truth. Jn **17:17**. So where in the Bible says that? You are telling me all these churches just pluck the doctrine from the air?*
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I already gave it to you. You rejected it even though its accepted by every single branch of the Church Catholic and Orthodox
@Daniel Hunt *Again tales. Where in the Bible says Jesus instituted a new clergy priesthood in NT? WHere? Chap verse?*
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Now, Jesus instituted His New Covenant priesthood for this purpose on earth.
When a pastor invests significant time in criticizing another faith, particularly the religion upon which Western Civilization was founded and the faith that played a crucial role in the formation of the Holy Bible, it raises questions. One may ponder whether the inspiration behind such sermons comes from the Holy Spirit or perhaps a different source. These discourses lack a spirit of generosity and seem more geared towards reinforcing a sense of satisfaction in embracing diluted doctrines while outright dismissing 2,000 years of Church history. It is somewhat astonishing to think that a genuine follower of Christ would overlook the rich history of their God. I often wonder why people who are possess by a demon often are sent to a Catholic priests for the Rite of Exorcism by their protestant pastors.
Hey Mike, well written bro, Thank you.
*If Scriptures is insufficient, why do you think Jesus, Apostles and NT Church all appealed to Scriptures only for doctrines. Not once they took from traditions of Moses or Pharisees? 180+ verses say so.*
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If scripture is theological sufficient,
@AJA Deacon *Faith Alone doctrine comes with Good Works too. Dont you know? Eph **2:10**, Gal **5:22**. You see how Catholics love to misrepresent Christian position?*
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yes that is exactly the Catholic position !! with regard to us needing faith then works
You don't need works. You have no part in your salvation. Lest you boast.
@cucomonga joe *Bible does say Church (referring to all churches, not R Church) has certain authority to make decisions. The Church discovered the canon over centuries. Not R Church.*
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the canon itself is a product of tradition
Scripture does not teach faith alone or scripture alone…
We need to also obey gods law
We cannot ever EARN heaven. We can only be granted mercy and grace,but it does not mean we can sin with abandon
@@MonstersOfTheUniverse *Of course Bible teaches Faith Alone doctrine (which is Salvation Not By Works). Salvation Not By Works is in two third of New Testament. Early writings also spoke of Salvation Not By Works. Augustine and Ambrose also translated Romans 3:28 as Faith Alone. Similarly many Old Catholic Bibles in 1400s.*
Two third of NT says Salvation Not By Works. Luke 23:43 - the thief at the Cross believed in Jesus and he was in Paradise thereafter. NOT WORKS! John 1:29 - Christ the Lamb of GOD who takes away the sins of the world ... (NOT OUR WORKS) John 3:16 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Acts 16:30-31 - saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! Rom 4. Vs 1-2 - justified NOT BY WORKS! Vs 3 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 4 - WORKS are debts . Vs 5 - he who DOES NOT WORK is JUSTIFIED . Vs 5 - God justifies the ungodly, Vs 5 - FAITH was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS. Vs 6 - Blessedness Apart from WORKS! Imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH. Vs 8 - imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS apart from WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham was made RIGHTEOUS BY FAITH BEFORE ANY WORKS! Vs 9-10 - Abraham received seal of RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH by imputation. NOT WORKS! Vs 11 - Promise to Abraham was through RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH. Vs 14-15 - Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation. Vs 22 - Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS . Vs 22 - RIGHTEOUSNESS imputed on those who believed. Not those who WORKS! Rom 11:6 - IF IT IS WORKS, IT’S NO LONGER GRACE . 2 Cor 5:21 - GOD made Jesus who knew no sin to become sin for us, that we might become the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. Gal 2:16 - not justified by WORKS OF THE LAW, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS. BY WORKS OF THE LAW, NO MAN IS JUSTIFIED! Gal 2:21 - if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law, then Christ died in vain. Gal 3:1-5 - Paul said Christians who started by faith, why end up following WORKS of law (not only Mosaic laws)? Are you made perfect by flesh (WORKS)? Gal 3:1-5 - Did God do miracles by your faith believing or by your WORKS of law? Eph 2:8-9 - saved by grace through faith NOT BY WORKS. Eph 2: 8-9 - salvation is a GIFT. NOT WORKS! 2 Tim 1:9 - saved NOT according to our WORKS. Titus 3:5 - saved NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. 1 Pet 2:24 - Christ (the Lamb of GOD) bore our sins … (NOT OUR WORKS).
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Scripture does not teach faith alone
@@MonstersOfTheUniverse ⭐ Where else speaks of Faith Alone doctrine? ⭐
5 sources say Faith Alone doctrine is true. 1. Scriptures. 2. Early writings. 3. Early Roman writings. 4. Old Catholic BIBLEs. 5. Acts 15 overturns James' work based salvation. Ask for proof. Only modern R Church says its false.
@@MonstersOfTheUniverse ⭐ Was Luther the first to use Sola Fede? ⭐
The answer is No.
- Early writings speak of Salvation Not By Works (Faith Alone doctrine) - like Polycarp, Clement of Rome, Irenaeus, Justin Martyr, Clement of Alexandria
- Old Catholic Bibles speak of Sola Fede - Nuremberg Bible (1483), “allein durch den glauben” and the Italian Bibles of Geneva (1476) and Italian Bible of Venice (1538) all used Sola Fede in Romans 3:28
- Even Ambrose and Augustine translated Romans 3:28 as Sola Fede.
⭐ St. Augustine's commentary on James 2 Sola Fide. ⭐
And the scripture was fulfilled which says, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. - James 2:23 That Abraham believed God deep in his heart is a matter of faith alone, but that he took his son to sacrifice him . . . is not just a great act of faith but a great work as well. (Sermons 2.9) - Augustine of Hippo
And the scripture was fulfilled which says, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. - James 2:23 Abraham is the image of someone who is justified by faith alone, since what he believed was credited to him as righteousness. But he is also approved because of his works, since he offered up his son Isaac on the altar. (Gen 22:10-18) Of course he did not do this work by itself; in doing it, he remained firmly anchored in his faith, believing that through Isaac his seed would be multiplied until it was as numerous as the stars - Oecumenius
@@MonstersOfTheUniverse ⭐ Did Luther defined Faith Alone the same way as James? ⭐
The answer is No. Luther used Faith Alone on Salvation. James used Faith Alone on Practical Christian Living. R Catholics are misrepresenting both parties.
*Faith Alone doctrine encompasses:*
Eph 2:8-9 - Salvation is Not By Works (⭐Salvation is By Faith Alone⭐ )
Eph 2:10 - Saved to do good works (⭐Practical Christian Living is By Works, Not By Faith Alone⭐ James 2, Gal 5:22, 1 Cor 13)
@Michael *Too bad. Mal **1:11** ‘s word for offering Minchah does not refer to communion. It refers to gifts, meal, donations.. and all bloodless offering. You were implying Jesus' sacrifice on the Cross was bloodless?*
Minchah” translated as Meat/Meal Offering (H4503 - apportion, that is, bestow; a donation; euphemistically tribute; specifically a sacrificial offering. usually bloodless and voluntary: - gift, oblation, meat offering, present, sacrifice).
BLOOD OFFERINGS mainly consisted of
“Olah” translated as Burnt Offerings (H5930 - ascending, going up in smoke: - ascent, go up)
“Shelem” translated as peace offering (H8002 - requital, that is, a sacrifice in thanks) “Chattath” translated as sin offering (H2403 - offence, and its penalty, occasion, sacrifice, or expiation; also an offender: - punishment of sin, purifying for sin, sinner). Both “Sin” and “Sin Offering” is called “Chattath” (Lev 4:3).
“Asham” translated as Trespass offering (H817 - guilt; by implication a fault; also a sin offering: - guiltiness, offering for sin, trespass)
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......Holy Communion is a bloodless sacrifice.........see Jesus's Words at the Last Supper
Yeah......right !!!
@@Michael-nb4ng *Thank you for admitting your error. Repent.*
@@faithalone2171 the infallible one faithalonr has spoken 😆 🤣 😂
@@menofvirtue6238 *Scriptures is infallible. Repent coward!*
@Tom Rodgers *You are claiming these church fathers plucked doctrines from the air? God forbid so. Trinity doctrine came from God's Word. Though the word is not in the Bible, but the doctrine is.*
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Regards to trinity the word is not in the bible, but you go bible alone but the concept to it is. It was instituted by Tertullian 197AD.
@Deborah Sheldon *Did you get that from Cinderella or pachamama? Where in the Bible says R Church was started by Christ? Or where in history says Scriptures was written by R Catholics? Or Nt R Catholic?*
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The Catholic Church was started by Jesus Christ, the Bible is Catholic also, especially The New Testament is the word of the Catholic, Christian, prophets.
Faith Alone Where does the bible say it has to be in the bible alone to be true. Your bibliolatry is getting deep.
@@turin2197 *Jesus, Apostles and disciples all turned to the Scriptures when they taught. They did not rely on traditions of Moses or Pharisees for doctrines. They quoted Written Word / Scriptures around 150 times in NT. So Sola Scriptura is true!*
Mat 2:5 So they said to him, "In Bethlehem of Judea, for thus it is written by the prophet:
Mat 4:4 But He answered and said, "It is written, 'MAN SHALL NOT LIVE BY BREAD ALONE, BUT BY EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD.' "
Mat 4:6 and said to Him, "If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written: 'HE SHALL GIVE HIS ANGELS CHARGE OVER YOU,' and, IN THEIR HANDS THEY SHALL BEAR YOU UP, LEST YOU DASH YOUR FOOT AGAINST A STONE.' "
Mat 4:7 Jesus said to him, "It is written again, 'YOU SHALL NOT TEMPT THE LORD YOUR GOD.' "
Mat 4:10 Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD, AND HIM ONLY YOU SHALL SERVE.' "
Mat 11:10 For this is he of whom it is written: 'BEHOLD, I SEND MY MESSENGER BEFORE YOUR FACE, WHO WILL PREPARE YOUR WAY BEFORE YOU.'
Mat 21:13 And He said to them, "It is written, 'MY HOUSE SHALL BE CALLED A HOUSE OF PRAYER,' but you have made it a 'DEN OF THIEVES.'"
Mat 26:24 The Son of Man indeed goes just as it is written of Him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good for that man if he had not been born."
Mat 26:31 Then Jesus said to them, "All of you will be made to stumble because of Me this night, for it is written: 'I WILL STRIKE THE SHEPHERD, AND THE SHEEP OF THE FLOCK WILL BE SCATTERED.'
Mat 27:37 And they put up over His head the accusation written against Him: THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
Mar 1:2 As it is written in the Prophets: "BEHOLD, I SEND MY MESSENGER BEFORE YOUR FACE, WHO WILL PREPARE YOUR WAY BEFORE YOU."
Mar 7:6 He answered and said to them, "Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: 'THIS PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS, BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR FROM ME.
@@turin2197 *Even nt Church of the Bible (Apostles and elders) appealed to the Word of God for determination of doctrines in Acts 15. The council did not decide based on their own words; neither on traditions of Pharisees or Moses. They based their decisions on "WHAT GOD SAID". Yes they met at Jerusalem council Acts 15 to discuss. But they appeal to what God says. Using God's word to decide what to do!*
*Bible says decision was made by Apostles and elders. Not single leader Peter!! (let alone pope). Acts 15:6, 16:4.*
Act 15:6 Now the apostles and elders came together to consider this matter.
Act 16:4 And as they went through the cities, they delivered to them the decrees to keep, which were determined by the apostles and elders at Jerusalem.
*1. Peter appealed using what God told him:*
to him rgd his vision of the clean and unclean animals in Acts 10..
That gentiles are accepted.
Act 10:13 And a voice came to him, "Rise, Peter; kill and eat."
Act 10:14 But Peter said, "Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean."
Act 10:15 And a voice spoke to him again the second time, "What God has cleansed you must not call common."
Act 15:7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe.
*2. James appealed using the Word of God:*
Act 15:13 And after they had become silent, James answered, saying, "Men and brethren, listen to me:
Act 15:14 Simon has declared how God at the first visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name.
Act 15:15 And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written:
Act 15:16 'AFTER THIS I WILL RETURN AND WILL REBUILD THE TABERNACLE OF DAVID, WHICH HAS FALLEN DOWN; I WILL REBUILD ITS RUINS, AND I WILL SET IT UP;
Act 15:17 SO THAT THE REST OF MANKIND MAY SEEK THE LORD, EVEN ALL THE GENTILES WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME, SAYS THE LORD WHO DOES ALL THESE THINGS.'
Act 15:18 "Known to God from eternity are all His works.
Act 15:19 Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God,
*3. Apostles Barnabas and Paul appealed to the “works of GOD done on the Gentiles”.*
Act 15:12 Then all the multitude kept silent and listened to Barnabas and Paul declaring how many miracles and wonders God had worked through them among the Gentiles.
God bless you brother, your teaching could have said it all in five minutes,as a former Roman Catholic i discovered the Catholic church has framed the bible around their teaching, tradition, rather than framing the church and teaching around the bible.
You would not have the Bible today if it weren’t for the Catholic Church. Do your research first. Also without the magesterium you could come up with a gazillion different ways to interpret the Bible resulting in a gazillion different denominations. So if the Bible is filtered through each individual experience so in essence if there is no magesterium then there is no truth in the Bible resulting in relativism. Which is a heresy plain and simple.
@@ariston5433 The magisterium...a bunch of homosexual pedophiles.
The Catholic Church did not frame anything. Its members WROTE the New Testament.
Pray for your Churches.
Glass house hero
@J Bad *Wow what a wonderful fairy tale. So where in the Bible says "full of grace = sinless" or "full of grace = leaves no room for sin"? Who invented this theory when the Bible does not say so?*
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Your at it again, Full of Grace leaves no room for sin. Basic math , I forgot , your a bit challenged with math , the 2/3 notion of Faith alone means 100% faith alone is nonsense .
Basic math: Full ( 100%) of Grace = (0% )of Sin.
@Michael *Where in the Bible teaches allthesensofRCt: "faith + good works + partake R sacraments + submit to R pontiff + be in R Church + devote to Mary = to be saved?" Pls answer. Stop dodging Mike Teixeira.*
It doesn’t say that anywhere in any Bible, Catholic system is false
@@terryqueenjr.6700 *Of course it does. Implicitly. If Roman religion is really the Church of the Bible or the "one true church". Then why are 95% of RC doctrines and RC clergies not in the Bible? Mind boggling ... Lol*
*nt Church of the Bible did not have Roman pontiff neither Roman priests, neither did Apostles pray to dead saints or Mary, neither did Apostles and Jesus make statues for Mary and saint .. Neither bow down to statues .. Neither Roman unholy water, neither sinless Mary, neither veneration of skulls bones tongues ... So where are all these man made doctrines of Rome in the Bible? Neither all the below man made doctrines! Wonder where they come from?*
*There was never a Catholic Church in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Catholic Church in the Bible.*
*There was never a Catholic in the Bible.*
*There was never a Roman Catholic in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church pope in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church priest in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church cardinal in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church sinless Mary in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church unholy water in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church penance in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church purgatory in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church canonised saint in the Bible.*
*There was never an Nt believer who made or bow down to statues in the Bible.*
*There was never an Nt believer who prays or received prayers from passed saints or Mary in the Bible.*
*There was never an ecumenical council with bishops of all churches that decided the canon in history*
*If you can find one example in the New Testament I will give you a lollipop.*
*nt church of the Apostles did not have such practices. Answer me: did apostles make and bow down to statues? Did Apostles ask passed on saints to pray for them? Or sprinkle "holy" water on believers? Or wore fishhead hat and costumes? Or cite hocus pocus when they serve the communion? They merely broke bread and passed around the table. Did they demand believers to kneel in front of them to serve them communion? Or did Peter ask believers to kiss his hands and feet? Or did Apostles venerate statues, bones or relics?*
*You do see clearly it all came from practices of believers after the Apostles - which Rcs claimed its from early writings. They had already deviated from the Apostles and Jesus. What Rcc called doctrines were merely partly traditions of errant believers + partly its own self traditions. Totally not from Jesus and Apostles at all.*
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It doesn’t say that anywhere in any Bible, Catholic system is false
@@terryqueenjr.6700 *Of course it does. If Roman Catholicism is truth or Church of the Bible, why was there not a single New Covenant believer saved in a Roman Catholic way in the whole Bible? Why is that so? Please explain coherently intelligently.*
- submit to Roman pope to be saved
- devote to Roman Mary to be saved
- be in Roman Church to be saved
- partake Roman sacraments to be saved
- baptise in Roman baptism to be saved
@terryqueenjr.6700 *Of course it does. Implicitly. If Roman religion is really the Church of the Bible or the "one true church". Then why are 95% of RC doctrines and RC clergies not in the Bible? Mind boggling ... Lol*
*nt Church of the Bible did not have Roman pontiff neither Roman priests, neither did Apostles pray to dead saints or Mary, neither did Apostles and Jesus make statues for Mary and saint .. Neither bow down to statues .. Neither Roman unholy water, neither sinless Mary, neither veneration of skulls bones tongues ... So where are all these man made doctrines of Rome in the Bible? Neither all the below man made doctrines! Wonder where they come from?*
*There was never a Catholic Church in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Catholic Church in the Bible.*
*There was never a Catholic in the Bible.*
*There was never a Roman Catholic in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church pope in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church priest in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church cardinal in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church sinless Mary in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church unholy water in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church penance in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church purgatory in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church canonised saint in the Bible.*
*There was never an Nt believer who made or bow down to statues in the Bible.*
*There was never an Nt believer who prays or received prayers from passed saints or Mary in the Bible.*
*There was never an ecumenical council with bishops of all churches that decided the canon in history*
*If you can find one example in the New Testament I will give you a lollipop.*
*nt church of the Apostles did not have such practices. Answer me: did apostles make and bow down to statues? Did Apostles ask passed on saints to pray for them? Or sprinkle "holy" water on believers? Or wore fishhead hat and costumes? Or cite hocus pocus when they serve the communion? They merely broke bread and passed around the table. Did they demand believers to kneel in front of them to serve them communion? Or did Peter ask believers to kiss his hands and feet? Or did Apostles venerate statues, bones or relics?*
*You do see clearly it all came from practices of believers after the Apostles - which Rcs claimed its from early writings. They had already deviated from the Apostles and Jesus. What Rcc called doctrines were merely partly traditions of errant believers + partly its own self traditions. Totally not from Jesus and Apostles at all.*
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It doesn’t say that anywhere in any Bible, Catholic system is false
@terryqueenjr.6700 *Of course it does. If Roman Catholicism is truth or Church of the Bible, why was there not a single New Covenant believer saved in a Roman Catholic way in the whole Bible? Why is that so? Please explain coherently intelligently.*
- submit to Roman pope to be saved
- devote to Roman Mary to be saved
- be in Roman Church to be saved
- partake Roman sacraments to be saved
- baptise in Roman baptism to be saved
@Tom Rodgers *It was passed down through the Church. Bible does mention Church.*
*Doctrine of Trinity is of course in the Bible. You do not know?*
*Index? That's not a doctrine. Only doctrines aer in the Bible.*
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To answer your comments, yes the scriptures were inspired, but who told you they were inspired or true, no where in the Bible tells you that. How do you know. How do you know Mathew wrote Mathew or Luke, even other writing. How do you realy know they are true. Your theology class. The index of the bible. Some one had the truth where it came from. Do you believe in the trinity, its not in the Bible either.
@CSB Studios *Where in the Bible teaches Penance - Work to atone of sins? Pls answer. You are covering up this self made doctrine of R church?*
See Luke 19: 1-10.
@@Michael-nb4ng *You see how you love misquoting Scriptures? This is ot restitution. Not penance. Which part says Z atoned for his own sins? Or say Hail Mary 10000 times?*
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See Luke 19: 1-10.
@@browncony3897............Zaccheus gave alms and paid back X4 that he had cheated; and Jesus declared ' salvation.'
@@Michael-nb4ng *What has OT restitution to do with your claims of Penance in New Covenant? Zacchaeus was under Mosaic Law. Are you under Mosaic Law?*
*Restitution is restoring goods. Penance is atonement for sins. Where in the Bible teach penance?*
Exo 22:3 If the sun has risen on him, there shall be guilt for his bloodshed. He should make full restitution; if he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.
Exo 22:5 "If a man causes a field or vineyard to be grazed, and lets loose his animal, and it feeds in another man's field, he shall make restitution from the best of his own field and the best of his own vineyard.
Exo 22:6 "If fire breaks out and catches in thorns, so that stacked grain, standing grain, or the field is consumed, he who kindled the fire shall surely make restitution.
Exo 22:12 But if, in fact, it is stolen from him, he shall make restitution to the owner of it.
Lev 5:16 And he shall make restitution for the harm that he has done in regard to the holy thing, and shall add one-fifth to it and give it to the priest. So the priest shall make atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering, and it shall be forgiven him.
Num 5:7 then he shall confess the sin which he has committed. He shall make restitution for his trespass in full, plus one-fifth of it, and give it to the one he has wronged.
Num 5:8 But if the man has no relative to whom restitution may be made for the wrong, the restitution for the wrong must go to the LORD for the priest, in addition to the ram of the atonement with which atonement is made for him.
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..........Zaccheus gave alms and paid back X4 that he had cheated; and Jesus declared ' salvation.'
@Michael *You see how you love misquoting Scriptures? This is ot restitution. Not penance. Which part says Z atoned for his own sins? Or say Hail Mary 10000 times?*
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See Luke 19: 1-10.
@CSB Studios *You claimed KJC is corrupted? From the verses you misquoted i dont see any corruption. What corruption?*
I have elaborated on this in another comment in which I have responded to you.
@@csbstudios9979 *Same answer. I did not see any corruption. You are making false claims.*
@Connor Mickelson *Two or more Scriptures saying the same teachings proves a doctrine. Unless they dont apply this. So how can it be different? In the first place Bible does allow differences in interpretations of Debatable Issues. Romans 14, Col 2.*
Example:
Verse 1 says you are an animal
Verse 2 says you are an animal
Doctrine = you are an animal.
So tell me, how can there be other different interpretations? Scriptures speak for itself. Even if there are other issues, God appointed pastors and teachers to teach the Word of God. So how is that a problem?
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What don’t you get about people having different ways of interpreting the Bible.
@Tom Rodgers *2 or more Scriptures saying the same teachigns proves a doctrine. Not from someone on the pulpit. Even if they speak, they are trained theologically to speak. Unlike R priests who spend more time in philosophy than Scriptures.*
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You are counting on someone from the pulpit that tell you what is truth and your doing the same and basshing Catholics that you have no idea of its teaching only to your own interpretation.
@Andrew Drew *You are spinning. Bible does not say the bread was transubstantiated or not transubstantiated. Neither Judas eating consecrated or unconsecrated bread. Lol. You are saying Jesus touched unconsecrated stuff? You meant Jesus sinned?*
Joh 13:18 "I do not speak concerning all of you. I know whom I have chosen; but that the Scripture may be fulfilled, 'HE WHO EATS BREAD WITH ME HAS LIFTED UP HIS HEEL AGAINST ME.'
Joh 13:26 Jesus answered, "It is he to whom I shall give a piece of bread when I have dipped it." And having dipped the bread, He gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.
Joh 13:27 Now after the piece of bread, Satan entered him. Then Jesus said to him, "What you do, do quickly."
Joh 13:28 But no one at the table knew for what reason He said this to him.
Joh 13:29 For some thought, because Judas had the money box, that Jesus had said to him, "Buy those things we need for the feast," or that he should give something to the poor.
Joh 13:30 Having received the piece of bread, he then went out immediately. And it was night.
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Judas ate unconcercrated bread in other words un transubstantiated bread which is what you eat and drink in your church cool-aide and crackers on your way out.
Yes !!! Jesus touched lepers/healed on the Sabbath/forgave a woman caught in adultry/ate with sinners/and hung on a tree for love of us. If He touched unconsecrated bread........then......so be it !!!
@@Michael-nb4ng *Where in the Bible says Judas ate unconsecrated bread? So be it?*
@Michael Speyrer *So cite me one nt Apostle who had asked passed on saints to pray for him. Just one:*
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*You cant? Which saint prayed for which nt apostle?*
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-Yes, asking the intercession of the Martyrs has been done since the time of the Apostles.
Evidence for this is found in the canons of the Mass that go back to the first century, and the names of the Martyrs of the Church of Rome, stating with Stephen and John the Baptist, the 12 Apostles, Mary, St. Michael the Archangel, St, Cecilia, Athatha, Perpetual and Felicity, as well as others have been honored mentioned by name since then. in Eucharistic prayer I the oldest that dates back to the 1st century.
The apostles ARE the saints........our cloud of witnesses........see Hebrews 12: 1.
@@Michael-nb4ng *Bible says all believers are saints. Dont you ever read the Bible cerebrumwashed R Catholic?*
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The apostles ARE the saints........our cloud of witnesses........see Hebrews 12: 1.
@@Michael-nb4ng *I bet you dont even know there is no such thing as canonised R church saints in the Bible. In all the usages of the word "saint"in the Bible, saints always refer to general believers. Not some special class of r church believers who are so called "holy" or have had some "achievements"?*
*Paul cant be talking about ministering to dead saints can he>?*
Rom_15:25 But now I am going to Jerusalem to minister to the saints.
Rom_15:26 For it pleased those from Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor among the saints who are in Jerusalem.
Rom_15:31 that I may be delivered from those in Judea who do not believe, and that my service for Jerusalem may be acceptable to the saints,
There you go:
More verses.
Rom_1:7 To all who are in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Rom_8:27 Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Rom_12:13 distributing to the needs of the saints, given to hospitality.
Rom_16:2 that you may receive her in the Lord in a manner worthy of the saints, and assist her in whatever business she has need of you; for indeed she has been a helper of many and of myself also.
Rom_16:15 Greet Philologus and Julia, Nereus and his sister, and Olympas, and all the saints who are with them.
1Co_1:2 To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all who in every place call on the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
1Co_6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints?
1Co_6:2 Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.
1Co_16:1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given orders to the churches of Galatia, so you must do also:
1Co_16:15 I urge you, brethren-you know the household of Stephanas, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and that they have devoted themselves to the ministry of the saints-
2Co_1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, To the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints who are in all Achaia:
2Co_8:4 imploring us with much urgency that we would receive the gift and the fellowship of the ministering to the saints.
2Co_9:1 Now concerning the ministering to the saints, it is superfluous for me to write to you;
2Co_9:12 For the administration of this service not only supplies the needs of the saints, but also is abounding through many thanksgivings to God,
2Co_13:13 All the saints greet you.
Eph_1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, To the saints who are in Ephesus, and faithful in Christ Jesus:
Eph_1:15 Therefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints,
Eph_1:18 the eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints,
Eph_2:19 Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God,
@@Michael-nb4ng RC …clouds without water!
Both Baptists and Roman-catholics keep Sunday as their day of rest and worship, something that is positively unbiblical, pagan, and a false doctrine. Why no Baptists add Sunday observance among the list? Neither Christ or His apostles endorsed or commanded the observance of Sunday. Jesus says "teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you" (Matthew 28.20), and Jesus commanded Sabbath observance both as an institution and as a commandment (Mark 2.27,28; Matthew 12.12; Matthew 24.20; Luke 13.10-16; Matthew 5.17-19; Luke 16.17; Matthew 19.16,17). Jesus and His apostles never commanded observance of Sunday by example or by any hint. Acts 20.7-12 is not a religious gathering, or a regular religious gathering or a religious gathering at all. 1Cor. 16.2 is not a religious service. Colossians 2.16 does not endorse Sunday observance and neither does 1Corinthians 15 which talks about the significance of resurrection of Christ (it doesn't mention Sunday or mandate Christians to celebrate Sunday. Christians celebrate Christ' death, not His resurrection -1Corinthians 11.26). The KRINO (esteem) of Romans 14.5 is not the antithesis of QADOSH (santify, keep holy) of Exodus 20.8. Context of Romans 14 is no about "the" Sabbath or distinction of clean or unclean meats as in Mark 7.19. Unclean animals were not considered as food by Jews, nor by gentile converts. And besides, Paul has no right nor authority to alter any of God's Ten Commandments and has no authority to make of no effect the Sabbath Commandment, and neither do any Christian. Both Roman-catholics and Baptists keep Sunday, so based on Sola Scriptura principle, Sunday observance has no Biblical, Sola Scriptura basis. It is Sola Roma, and by the authority of the Roman church alone. Baptists pay homage to Roman-catholicism despite themselves by their observance of Sunday. Repent, Baptists brethren. You are in error at this point. You are condemning the Roman-catholic church teachings but you are also believer what this church believes, for example, 1) SUNDAY OBSERVANCE (Unbiblical), 2) belief about IMMORTALITY OF SOUL (unbiblical), 3) EATING OF UNCLEAN ANIMALS (pagan, unbiblical), 4) CHRISTMAS on Dec 25 (unbiblical, unapostolic), 5) TRINITY (unbiblical, unapostolic, -Neither God nor Christ ever taught that a believer should think of God as trinity), 6) belief that Jesus' human nature is SINLESS (unbiblical, check out Romans 8.3,4; Hebrews 2.12-18; 4.14-16; Romans 9.5; Galatians 4.4), 7) observance of LENT (passover was lunar, not solar. It can began on Monday or any day of the week, not on Sunday only), 8) USE OF "REVEREND," "RIGHT REVEREND," "MOST REVEREND" for their clergymen. God alone is holy and "Reverend." "HOLY AND REVEREND IS HIS NAME" -Psalm 111.9; 9) USE OF CREEDS and Ostracizing as "heretics" or "cults" those who deviate from those man-made Creeds. This fulfills John 16.2,3. Both Roman-catholics and Protestants would kill or excommunicate anyone "heretic" for rejecting trinity or their creeds as if they are doing God service. The truth is, they do not know God nor Christ. Read again John 16.2,3 and reflect on your murderous practices with fellow Christians, like how John Calvin killed Michael Servetus for rejecting trinity. The Scriptures alone is our creed. The creeds of churches are not authoritative Christian document. Even the "Scriptures" Paul is taling about in 2Timothy 3.15-17 is not the New Testament, nor any of Paul's writings, but the Torah and the prophets. Profitable for doctrines is the Torah and the prophets. For example, tattooing one's body is forbidden (Leviticus 19.28), prostitution, witchcraft, eating unclean animals, blood, and animal fat (Leviticus 7.23-27; Leviticus 3.21), and other Laws. Curse is on those who "DO NOT" abide in the Law (Galatians 3.10). Read carefully. It God does nit say that a curse is on those who abide by the law, for God meant them to be blessed. blessings, not curse, are for those who obey and who walk in the Law of Yahweh, whose delight is in the Law (Psalm 119.1; Psalm 1.1-2). "Blessed are they that DO HIS COMMANDMENTS that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city" (Revelation 22.14; King James Version; See Revelation 12.17; 14.12). They are not cursed because they do the Law, but because they do not do it. God's character and way of salvation remains the same in both Old and New Testaments: Grace through faithfulness and obedience on the part of man.
God commanded that we work 6 days and worship on the 7th. He never commanded which days. Sunday works just as well as Saturday.
Yessssss, the Bible says, if they do not speak according the the Law and testimony, it is because there is no light in them. And they are a liar.
Amen from fellow Sabbath keeper.
The seventh day. Not a Sabbath day....very simple
@Michael *Still claims. Acts 2 does not even mention R Church. Let alone R Church following Peter.*
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..........For 2,000 yrs. R Church has followed Peter at Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit came to the Church........see Acts 2.
Not sure of YOUR question; Acts 2 mentions Jerusalem Temple but that was destroyed........even to today.
@Michael *Still claims. Acts 2 does not even mention R Church. Let alone R Church following Peter.*
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..........For 2,000 yrs. R Church has followed Peter at Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit came to the Church........see Acts 2.
Also when Paul was imprisoned in Rome, he mentioned all who attended to him, never mentioned Peter. If Peter was first pope, why was he not visited by Peter? Peter wasn't there!
@@drendaparfitt7417 *Roman Catholics really love to force their man made claims into Scriptures. 😆*
@Michael *Sure... Jesus said "He is the temple or door". Did Jesus become physical temple or physical door?*
*And it was so? Try harder Mike Teixeira who loves misquoting Scriptures.*
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........Jesus said, " This is My Body/Blood." And it is so !!!
@purgatorean *Acts 2 Church was clearly not Roman Catholic Church was it? Lol*
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All Christians, Protestants and Catholics, agree that the Church that Christ said that He would build came into existence with the coming of the Holy Spirit on that Great Day of Pentecost in Acts chapter 2. Acts chapter 2 is the Biblical Blueprint for Sacramental Salvation, and ever since that Day of Pentecost,
The Bible message may be said to be incomplete only when interpretations of the message is unknown or hard to ascertain!
You can't read the bible without the Holy spirit
Exactly true------51,000 different denominations of Protestants all diagreeing with each other on the same Bible is the result of reading the Bible without the Holy Spirit.
@@salachenkoforley7382You Catholics definitely Don't read God's Holy Word with the help of the Holy Spirit.
@@salachenkoforley7382 True Christians share the same gospel no matter the denomination. Catholics have a false gospel that replaces the Word of God
@Michael Speyrer *Proof texter. Nowhere in Rev 11 says this ark refers to Mary.*
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"Revelation 11:19, NIV: Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a severe hailstorm."
And God's ark is with him in Heaven. Having been assumed there.
followed by Rev. 12: 1, " A sign was seen.....woman clothed with the sun, with the moon at Her feet........pregnant."
@@Michael-nb4ng *So according to your d logic, "followed by" means its must refer to Mary? So Mary must be the temple of God, thunder, lightning, noises, earthquake and other phenomena since Rev 11:19 is "followed by" Rev 12:1. Lol.*
Rev 11:19 📝 Then the temple of God was opened in heaven, and the ark of His covenant was seen in His temple. And there were lightnings, noises, thunderings, an earthquake, and great hail.
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followed by Rev. 12: 1, " A sign was seen.....woman clothed with the sun, with the moon at Her feet........pregnant."
What is inside the Ark of the Covenant in OT?
@@chinitapink8074 Waiting for you to list out and prove. I know.
@@jediv3381 Im asking you..
@colinlavelle7806 *If Roman Catholicism is truth or Church of the Bible, why was there not a single New Covenant believer saved in a Roman Catholic way in the whole Bible? Why is that so? Please explain coherently intelligently.*
- submit to Roman pope to be saved
- devote to Roman Mary to be saved
- be in Roman Church to be saved
- partake Roman sacraments to be saved
- baptise in Roman baptism to be saved
- do lots of works to be saved
@Michael *What has OT restitution to do with your claims of Penance in New Covenant? Zacchaeus was under Mosaic Law. Are you under Mosaic Law?*
*Restitution is restoring goods. Penance is atonement for sins. Where in the Bible teaches penance?*
Exo 22:3 If the sun has risen on him, there shall be guilt for his bloodshed. He should make full restitution; if he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.
Exo 22:5 "If a man causes a field or vineyard to be grazed, and lets loose his animal, and it feeds in another man's field, he shall make restitution from the best of his own field and the best of his own vineyard.
Exo 22:6 "If fire breaks out and catches in thorns, so that stacked grain, standing grain, or the field is consumed, he who kindled the fire shall surely make restitution.
Exo 22:12 But if, in fact, it is stolen from him, he shall make restitution to the owner of it.
Lev 5:16 And he shall make restitution for the harm that he has done in regard to the holy thing, and shall add one-fifth to it and give it to the priest. So the priest shall make atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering, and it shall be forgiven him.
Num 5:7 then he shall confess the sin which he has committed. He shall make restitution for his trespass in full, plus one-fifth of it, and give it to the one he has wronged.
Num 5:8 But if the man has no relative to whom restitution may be made for the wrong, the restitution for the wrong must go to the LORD for the priest, in addition to the ram of the atonement with which atonement is made for him.
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..........Zaccheus gave alms and paid back X4 that he had cheated; and Jesus declared ' salvation.'
@The Mysterious Cynthia X *Too bad. Those were just local councils with local canons affecting their own local communities. No canon was fixed for the whole of Christendom at all. They merely cited the 27 books canon.*
*Cite me one ecumenical council with bishops of all churches that fixed the canon for all Christianity? Just one? You cant?*
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The bible took a long time to write and compile. (Old testament was compiled and new Testament was written during the course of SEVERAL Catholic councils and the date I gave was the final stage)
Geez …the snakes !
@@jesusfaith2232 *Lol*
@@jesusfaith2232 *This is one of the favourite claims of R Church - "R Church fixed the canon". They claimed since they fix it, they have all authority. Lolol. Sounds like some bullies taking over people's house, then claim its theirs then say they have all authority.*
@@solafide9533 They claim that to try and prove all their teachings are 100% correct, they know it’s not!
@@jesusfaith2232 *Catholicism has too many m m doctrines. It's hard to hide.*
@Andrew Drew *So when JEsus said "this is my body" it means changed of substance? Really? So when Jesus said "He is the temple or door" did Jesus transforms into a physical temple or physical door? You really think so? Who says it is physical? Did Jesus say this is my physical body? Read your Scriptures.*
*You are spinning as it goes.*
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Jesus changed the substance during the last supper where he said “this IS my body “
This IS my blood .
Did Jesus say this is my symbolic body??????
Read your scriptures.
Jesus speaks creation; for example in Genesis 1: " Let there be.........and it was.
@@Michael-nb4ng *Jesus did that for creation does not mean He did that for communion. Stop making false inference.*
@@faithalone2171...........To a catholic and even to the apostles, Jesus said it......and it was so !!! No apologies !!!
@@Michael-nb4ng *Jesus said it was so? Sure. You are claiming Jesus actually became physical temple + physical door + physical gate. Lolol*
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.........To a catholic and even to the apostles, Jesus said it......and it was so !!! No apologies !!!
@@faithalone2171 wow you really get around and teaching is all your infallible interpretation of the bible
@Michael Speyrer *Where is that in the Bible? You concoct fairy tales faster than concorde? Which apostle sprinkled "holy" water on believers? Where? You love l ..s.*
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Yes Holy water has been used as a sacramental before even the Gospel of John was finished being written.*
Holy Water flowed from the side of Christ........see John 19: 34; and continues to flow as prophesied in Isaiah 44: 3. Like Holy oils, Holy Water is a sacred sign of Christ's love/mercy.
@@Michael-nb4ng *You f. Bible does not call that holy water. Where in the Bible says its holy water? Please dont misquote verses for ot temple in nt church. Cite me one apostle who sprinkled "holy" water on any believers? None? Yet you claimed its a biblical doctrine?*
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Holy Water flowed from the side of Christ........see John 19: 34; and continues to flow as prophesied in Isaiah 44: 3. Like Holy oils, Holy Water is a sacred sign of Christ's love/mercy.
@@jediv9492.......Would ' unholy water ' and ' unholy ' blood flow from Jesus ???
@@Michael-nb4ng *You f. Are you telling me R Catholics are using the same water from Jesus' side? If not what are you blathering about? Cite me one apostle who used "holy" water. You cant. You are defending a m m doctrine.*
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..Would ' unholy water ' and ' unholy ' blood flow from Jesus ???
@CSB Studios *Bible says Oracles of God was committed to the Jews. Romans 3:1-2. Jews said there are 39 books in ot. No Apo 7 books. So they are right. God is right. God is always right. R church is always wrong.*
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Where in scripture did Martin Luther have the authority to remove seven books from the scriptures?
Nobody said the popes were perfect…
but they cannot change the teaching of Christ
How come the pope, God on earth, isn't perfect? You blind Catholics follow an imperfect man.
They can and do.
@Turin21 *Too bad. You got that from Cinderella or wrote your own Bible? Where in the Bible says:*
"Penance is a sacrament of the New Law instituted by Christ in which forgiveness of sins committed after baptism is granted through the priest’s absolution to those who with true sorrow confess their sins and promise to satisfy for the same."?
*It is so clear you dont even read the Bible. Lol. Bible mentioned nothing about Penance or nt clergy priesthood which Bible says its already obsolete. Heb 7,9,10. So where did R Church priesthood come from? Lucy?*
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if you only knew 1/1,000,000 of what you purport to know about the Catholic faith you would know Penance is a sacrament of the New Law instituted by Christ in which forgiveness of sins committed after baptism is granted through the priest’s absolution to those who with true sorrow confess their sins and promise to satisfy for the same.
Did you guys hear about Chrislam?
Thank you! Excellent sermon exposing this dark, false religion.
Heretic.
So sad that you're not One with the Catholic Church
Come home.
@@iggyantioch are you for Pädophile???!!!!
YOU = Excellent sermon exposing this dark, false religion.
ME = If Catholicism is dark & false, why can not = any = Protestant take up my Challenge which I posted with = details = above and with the following heading : -
@loboman8029
1 month ago
CHALLENGE = Can = any = Protestant, including the author of this video, give the answer to this most = basic = and fundamental
Question = Why did Jesus incarnate as a Man and die on the Cross ??
(( Note = a review of the following points is necessary before answer ))
NOTE = If YOU are not able to answer this most basic and necessary question, then your = only = hope of salvation is to become a Catholic.
God bless
🌿🌻 Thank you Jesus for the BIBLE which is very enlightening !
Jesus did not give us the Bible. The Church did. And you accept Catholic Scriptures but refuse Her interpretations of it. The Bible is the teachings of the Church and is only a guide to what the Church teaches
Amen
@@dennis1662 Jesus gave us the church and He gave us His written word. Oral tradition sounds good but oral changes over time and as it is not written down can not be verified as to it's truth over the centuries. Stick with the scriptures which are God's word to us and when you dispute anything use scriptures not what you heard or what you think the bible says.
The Bible is the teachings of the Church and is only a guide to what the Church teaches
reminds me of Homer Simpson telling his son that a speed limit is only a suggestion.
@@dennis1662 😆
Do you know that the New Testament are Catholic books? If it weren't for the Catholic Church, you wouldn't have the New Testament!!
@Daniel Hunt *I dont need the Exact Word/Title of the doctrine. I only need Scriptures that speaks of the doctrine. Yes all doctrines of the faith are in the Scriptures. Bible does say Scriptures is sufficient for all doctrines of the faith.*
*Romans 3:1-2 says Oracles of God come from the Jews. So yes it does say we rely on Scriptures of the Jews. Original Hebrew OT did not contain Apo 7 books. So God's Word is always right. Luther was right to return to 66 books.*
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You must consider Scripture as a whole. But you seem to require EXPLICIT statements for a doctrine to be true. Is this the case? Are all Christian doctrines found EXPLICITLY stated in the Bible (of the 66-book Protestant Canon)?
Outstanding video. Someone please tell me which Church this is?I'd like to know more.
fairhaven baptist church
Please read the writings of Calvin.. he wanted to have a man killed because he didn't believe in Calvin's interpretation of scripture. scripture
The Baptist church founded by earthly man
Yes, I agree it is an outstanding video. I think most Catholics would choke on it. Open their eyes Lord to the truth only found in your Word.
@Michael *Bible does not say anything persecuted is truth. Bible says God's Word is truth Jn **17:17**; which you have none.*
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.Like I said, YOU persecution of the RCC is proof that the RCC is the true Church;
Just keep Jesus in your heart……believe/have faith in Jesus and all he did! There is no one like the Lord and Savior of the World….Jesus! The Theme of the Bible is God’s Amazing Grace! Trust in the Lord with all your heart….don’t lean on your own understanding! You can join whatever religious club you want (catholic or whatever) go to church to get support from other believers!
also Yahusha is the son of man's name who came in the name of the father YAHUAH our ALAHIM to deliver us all if we believe and obey the Sabbath
@@BdDaBOMB please show in scripture where the sabbath is to be followed by the gentile believers of the new testament?
@@brucewmclaughlin9072
EXODUS 20:11
Perhaps the Sabbath Commandment is void to the "gentiles" and their covetousness/murder shall reign free in the earth; as for me, the young family I lead in the name of the Yahusha our Messiah shall cleave onto the very clothes/house of Israel.
Feel free to share inspiration as I do not own a physical Torah
@@BdDaBOMB Believers in Christ are a new creation, believers in Christ are no longer under the law, Believers in the new testament are never commanded to observe the sabbath, they are encouraged to enter the sabbath rest from all works. To observe the sabbath is far different than just making saturday the day you worship God.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072
Although I do as the Messiah said and forgive, I do not believe in "christ" as such since it is a substitute. Also the Messiah stated his arrival was not to alter the law was but to fullfil. So to my understanding, which is in parts, *the commandments + the golden rule* is what we are to do to inherent everlasting life [look at the Messiah's reply to the lawyer in Luke for the detail]
The Sabbath Commandment is something I shall remember and obey, another commenter revealed to me that the Sabbath is not on Saturday but rather on alternate days each month on the 8th, 15th, 22nd, 29th. Due to still learn I guide my rather young family to meditate, pray and sleep on the Sabbath... I hold more room to grow.
@Andrew Drew *You seemed to think in ot, when Israelites partook the lamb they all became deities - divine. Which part says so?*
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partaking of the @divine nature” is a better way of putting it.
You know that the Jews actually ate the Lamb during Passover right consumed it .
So Christ by the power of Holy Spirit changes the bread and wine into the body and blood that we partake of .
Divine nature consumed into your body so you have both mental and physical attributes .
We worship in mind and body not just mind this is the difference.
When the Israelites partook of the lamb = freedom from slavery........see Exodus 12& 13; and every firstborn male ( human of animal ) was consecrated to God........see Exodus 13: 1.
@@Michael-nb4ng *So?*
@Tom Rodgers *2 or more Scriptures saying the same teachings proves a doctrine. Luther did not make any new interpretations.*
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Then Martin Luther came with new interpretation.
@CSB Studios *DRB is a corrupted Bible that changes all the words "repentance" in NT into "penance". Penance is works. Repentance is change of heart.*
45 Verses Found, 48 Matches
Mat 3:2 And saying: Do penance: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Mat 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruit worthy of penance.
Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you in water unto penance, but he that shall come after me, is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you in the Holy Ghost and fire.
Mat 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say: Do penance, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Mat 11:20 Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein were done the most of his miracles, for that they had not done penance.
Mat 11:21 Woe thee, Corozain, woe to thee, Bethsaida: for if in Tyre and Sidon had been wrought the miracles that have been wrought in you, they had long ago done penance in sackcloth and ashes.
Mat 12:41 The men of Ninive shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they did penance at the preaching of Jonas. And behold a greater than Jonas here.
Mar 1:4 John was in the desert, baptizing and preaching the baptism of penance, unto remission of sins.
Mar 6:12 And going forth they preached men should do penance:
Luk 3:3 And he came into all the country about the Jordan, preaching the baptism of penance for the remission of sins.
Luk 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of penance: and do not begin to say, We have Abraham for our father. For I say unto you that God is able of these stones, to raise up children to Abraham.
Luk 5:32 I came not to call the just, but sinners to penance.
Luk 10:13 Woe to thee, Corozain! Woe to thee, Bethsaida! For if in Tyre and Sidon had been wrought the mighty works that have been wrought in you, they would have done penance long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.
Luk 11:32 The men of Ninive shall rise in the judgment with this generation and shall condemn it; Because they did penance at the preaching of Jonas. And behold more than Jonas here.
Luk 13:3 No, I say to you: but unless you shall do penance, you shall all likewise perish.
Luk 13:5 No, I say to you: but except you do penance, you shall all likewise perish.
Luk 15:7 I say to you that even so there shall be joy in heaven upon one sinner that doth penance, more than upon ninety-nine just who need not penance.
Luk 15:10 So I say to you, there shall be joy before the angels of God upon one sinner doing penance.
Luk 16:30 But he said: No, father Abraham: but if one went to them from the dead, they will do penance.
Luk 17:3 Take heed to yourselves. If thy brother sin against thee, reprove him: and if he do penance, forgive him.
Luk 24:47 And that penance and remission of sins should be preached in his name, unto all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
Act 2:38 But Peter said to them: Do penance: and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins. And you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 8:22 Do penance therefore for this thy wickedness: and pray to God, that perhaps this thought of thy heart may be forgiven thee.
Act 13:24 John first preaching, before his coming, the baptism of penance to all the people of Israel.
Act 17:30 And God indeed having winked at the times of this ignorance, now declareth unto men that all should every where do penance.
Act 19:4 Then Paul said: John baptized the people with the baptism of penance saying: That they should believe in him, who was to come after him, that is to say, in Jesus.
Act 20:21 Testifying both to Jews and Gentiles penance towards God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.
Act 26:20 But to them first that are at Damascus and at Jerusalem, and unto all the country of Judea, and to the Gentiles did I preach, that they should do penance and turn to God, doing works worthy of penance.
Rom 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and patience and longsuffering? Knowest thou not that the benignity of God leadeth thee to penance?
2Co 7:9 Now I am glad: not because you were made sorrowful, but because you were made sorrowful unto penance. For you were made sorrowful according to God, that you might suffer damage by us in nothing.
2Co 7:10 For the sorrow that is according to God worketh penance, steadfast unto salvation: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
2Co 12:21 Lest again, when I come, God humble me among you: and I mourn many of them that sinned before and have not done penance for the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness that they have committed.
Heb 6:1 Wherefore, leaving the word of the beginning of Christ, let us go on to things more perfect: not laying again the foundation of penance from dead works and of faith towards God,
Heb 6:6 And are fallen away: to be renewed again to penance, crucifying again to themselves the Son of God and making him a mockery.
2Pe 3:9 The Lord delayeth not his promise, as some imagine, but dealeth patiently for your sake, not willing that any should perish, but that all should return to penance,
Rev 2:5 Be mindful therefore from whence thou art fallen: and do penance and do the first works. Or else I come to thee and will move thy candlestick out of its place, except thou do penance.
Rev 2:16 In like manner do penance. If not, I will come to thee quickly and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
Rev 2:21 And I gave her a time that she might do penance: and she will not repent of her fornication.
Rev 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed: and they that commit adultery with her shall be in very great tribulation, except they do penance from their deeds,
Rev 3:3 Have in mind therefore in what manner thou hast received and heard: and observe and do penance: If then thou shalt not watch, I will come to thee as a thief: and thou shalt not know at what hour I will come to thee.
Rev 3:19 Such as I love, I rebuke and chastise. Be zealous therefore and do penance.
Rev 9:20 And the rest of the men, who were not slain by these plagues, did not do penance from the works of their hands, that they should not adore devils and idols of gold and silver and brass and stone and wood, which neither can see nor hear nor walk:
Rev 9:21 Neither did they penance from their murders nor from their sorceries nor from their fornication nor from their thefts.
Rev 16:9 And men were scorched with great heat: and they blasphemed the name of God, who hath power over these plagues. Neither did they penance to give him glory.
Rev 16:11 And they blasphemed the God of heaven, because of their pains and wounds: and did not penance for their works.
Furthermore, a translation error in the Douay Rheims does not lead to an error in theology.
@Michael Speyrer *"every" C member agreeing does not prove its biblical. Church of S agreed on all their S doctrines too. All buddhists agreed on all their doctrines too. Does it make it truth? If you do not have simple logic you cannot debate. Now you know how use - less your Masters is?*
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My argument wasn't "many people believe this to be true." My argument was EVERYONE understood this to be true, in every branch of Christianity founded by the Apostles prior to dissident protestant anticatholic theologians in the Reformation 15oo years after the fact. And is still held by every one of them to today universally. Every single one holds this to be true.
when I go to Mass, will i get a handout with a picture of you to haunt me?
They usually give Pictures and prewritten prayers of gay bishops
@Turin21 *Too bad you are wrong once again. SS is not a pillar. It was a doctrine that Jesus, Apostles and nt Church followed.*
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One of the two “pillars” of the Protestant Reformation (sola scriptura or “the Bible alone”) in part states that nothing can be added to or taken away from God’s Word. History shows therefore that Protestants are guilty of violating their own doctrine. Luther and the deformers simply had some problems with the 7 books saying something different that what Luther made up so they tossed them, contrary to scripture.
@Michael *You kept dodging. So who says R Church = the Church? Where is your proof?*
Proof that the RCC is the true Church is YOU and YOUR persecution.........see Matt. 16: 18, " and the gates of hell shall not prevail."
@@Michael-nb4ng *Another S claim that lacks logic. Why? Church of Lucy was persecuted too. Cs too. Coms too. Does that mean its truth?*
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Proof that the RCC is the true Church is YOU and YOUR persecution.
@@Michael-nb4ng *Which part of Mat 16 says its R Church? I love your claims. But claims is Not a proof for doctrines. Try harder.*
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see Matt. 16: 18, " and the gates of hell shall not prevail."
@Michael *You kept dodging. So who says R Church = the Church or true church? Where is your proof?*
@@jediv9492........Like I said, YOU persecution of the RCC is proof that the RCC is the true Church; problem is while YOU think YOU are persecuting the RCC.........it is Jesus that YOU are persecuting...........see Acts 9: 4.
@Michael *The question remained: Where in the Bible says R Church inherited the mantle of Peter? Where? Catholics love f claims.*
You cannot answer?
*Wow how wonderful.... Where in Mat 16 says its R Church? You love concocting fairy tales dont you?*
But who else ???
@@Michael-nb4ng *"who else"? Speculation is Not a proof for doctrines R Catholic.*
@@Michael-nb4ng *Bible is clear. Apostles passed down to elders/leaders. Not to new Apostles. Nowhere says its to R Church. Titus 1:5.*
@@jediv9492.........Are YOU denying that St. Paul is an apostle because he was not with the original 12 ???
@@Michael-nb4ng *Paul was an Apostle. He was not the Original 12. You dont even know?*
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....Are YOU denying that St. Paul is an apostle because he was not with the original 12 ???
@Michael *Bible does not say its atonement. Jesus merely asked Z to make restitution. Not atonement for sins. No man can atone for sins except Jesus.*
*Z did not get Salvation because of restitution. He got salvation because he truly believed in Jesus.*
Exo 22:3 If the sun has risen on him, there shall be guilt for his bloodshed. He should make full restitution; if he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.
Exo 22:5 "If a man causes a field or vineyard to be grazed, and lets loose his animal, and it feeds in another man's field, he shall make restitution from the best of his own field and the best of his own vineyard.
Exo 22:6 "If fire breaks out and catches in thorns, so that stacked grain, standing grain, or the field is consumed, he who kindled the fire shall surely make restitution.
Exo 22:12 But if, in fact, it is stolen from him, he shall make restitution to the owner of it.
Lev 5:16 And he shall make restitution for the harm that he has done in regard to the holy thing, and shall add one-fifth to it and give it to the priest. So the priest shall make atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering, and it shall be forgiven him.
Num 5:7 then he shall confess the sin which he has committed. He shall make restitution for his trespass in full, plus one-fifth of it, and give it to the one he has wronged.
Num 5:8 But if the man has no relative to whom restitution may be made for the wrong, the restitution for the wrong must go to the LORD for the priest, in addition to the ram of the atonement with which atonement is made for him.
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........The Mosaic Law forbade stealing, but Zaccheus had no problem stealing; however it was in the presence of Jesus that he made atonement and got SALVATION.
*OT Scriptures was there way before Jesus' time. NT Scriptures was already in all churches by AD100s. Jesus and APostles were already using inspired Scriptures. Believers did not have to wait for the BIBLE that came 300 years later to know what GOD says in the Scriptures.*
The OT should have given the Jews every reason to welcome Jesus, but they rejected Him..........even the apostles abandoned Him. The gentiles accepted Jesus readily.......without knowing the OT. That is Grace !!!
@@miketeixeira7853 *Your theory is warped. The first few thousands who accepted Christ were Jewish Proselytes who came from all over. THey do know the Old Testament.*
YOU:
The OT should have given the Jews every reason to welcome Jesus, but they rejected Him..........even the apostles abandoned Him. The gentiles accepted Jesus readily.......without knowing the OT. That is Grace !!!
@@solafide9533............See the great faith of the Roman centurion in Matt. 8: 8-10, and Jesus answers, " I have found no one in Israel with such great faith."
@@miketeixeira7853 *As usual what are you proving Mike Teixeira roman pagan?*
YOU:
............See the great faith of the Roman centurion in Matt. 8: 8-10, and Jesus answers, " I have found no one in Israel with such great faith."
@@solafide9533.........Just showing YOU what Jesus thought.
How do you reconcile " we are not trying to batch you" after saying the Pope's picture will haunt.
After learning what Catholicism is up to, his picture will haunt many.
What is she up to? I'd be grateful for any examples.
Notice he agrees that the Pope reaffirms to not adding any new doctrine but proclaiming that which Christ teaches (28:02-06).
Also, in most of the pentecostal arguments that IV heard, it's said that one is saved by faith alone in Jesus. So there shouldn't be a problem with the Church or any other denomination as long as they believe in the Lord Jesus, don't you think?
@@christianartists9185 The CC wants to send you to hell with it by telling you that there is a safety net called pergatory. No real need to seek the Lord, because you can get saved by paying for your own sins. You need any more examples? No need to tell you about its priests whole sale raping little kids. Thats old news.
From his words that he will not bash the Catholic and later mention that the picture of the pope will haunt you.
From here, I can't accept his words from the bible because that's his interpretation. And he could be wrong. The protestant are always protesting till the end time.
@@samsimm no need to interpret the bible. it says what it means and means what it says.
@Sola Fide Catholica *2 Thes **2:15**, 3:6 all referred to traditions of Apostles - which Bible says so. Scripture Alone stands unchallenged. God and His Word accepts all traditions of Jesus and Apostles.*
*But God condemned all m m unbiblical traditions of the Pharisees and R Church alike. Mat 23. Dont you ever read the Bible?*
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“Keep away from any brother who is living in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us” (2 Thess. 3:6). Given this why do I have to explain your 25 points from the bible alone.
@Men of Virtue *So according to you "repeating more times = must be physical". I worry for you if you cannot see the fallaciousness.*
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so if Jesus said something and repeats it more than once saying amen amen I say onto you... means he isn't meaning what he is saying.
Remember - Sunday Worship is the Invention of The Catholic Church!
Watch "Enforced Sunday Worship Laws" by Pastor COX
We worship daily in daily Mass. Sunday is the day that the apostles chose for communal worship and we follow........see Acts 20: 7.
@@Michael-nb4ng Please watch "Who Changed the Sabbath" by Pastor CD Brooks
Read Exodus 20v8-11, Mathew 12v36-37 and also James 2v10
@Tom Rodgers *R Church merely used selective repetitive passages week in week out. You cannot complete the whole Bible in 1000 years.*
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The catholic go through the bible complete every three year, not just new testament plus my own time.
In three years, if you go to Mass every day, you will hear 90+ % of the Bible. But that's not the point of regular public worship. The primary purpose of gathering and worshiping God is to offer His Sacrifice again, as He directed ("do this in memorium"). Only Catholics (and Orthodox) fulfill Jesus' command in this. Protestant worship which involves good songs and prayers and preaching is good as far as it goes, but it falls short of having Jesus Himself present.
@@kd4yhs *Of course that's the tales R Church tells you. But what they did not tell you is: they merely take selective passages and repeat them day in and out. You will not cover the Bible is 1000 years.*
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In three years, if you go to Mass every day, you will hear 90+ % of the Bible
@@kd4yhs *Offer Jesus' sacrifice again? Where in the Bible says "offer Jesus' sacrifice again"? In fact Bible says the opposite. Bible says the sacrifice of Jesus was done Once For All. Not "offer Jesus' sacrifice again".*
Rom 6:10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God.
Heb 7:27 who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people's, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.
Heb 9:12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.
Heb 10:10 By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
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The primary purpose of gathering and worshiping God is to offer His Sacrifice again, as He directed ("do this in memorium"). Only Catholics (and Orthodox) fulfill Jesus' command in this
@@kd4yhs *Too bad. You were taught the wrong stuff by R Church. Bible did not ask R Catholcis to sacrifice Jesus on the altar back to God. Bible says clergy priesthood, sacrifice and altars were already obsolete in nt. Heb 7,9,10.*
*Bible calls all believers to worship God in spirit and in truth. John 4. Bible says singing psalms hymns spiritual songs to the Lord. Col **3:16**, Eph **5:19**. Bible says believers are to offer their lives a living sacrifice to God as a worship. Romans 12:1-2. Not offer Jesus back to God.*
Rom 12:1 I therefore urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercies, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices that are holy and pleasing to God, for this is the reasonable way for you to worship.
Eph 5:19 speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord,
Col 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
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The primary purpose of gathering and worshiping God is to offer His Sacrifice again, as He directed ("do this in memorium"). Only Catholics (and Orthodox) fulfill Jesus' command in this
Protestant worship which involves good songs and prayers and preaching is good as far as it goes, but it falls short of having Jesus Himself present.
@@faithalone2171 Yes, 'offer' it repeatedly. (But this is not RE-sacrificing, just re-offering that one Sacrifice.). Jesus commanded and empowered His first New Covenant priests, the Apostles, to do this at the Last Supper. This is the New Covenant fulfillment of the OC Passover. That was mandated to be performed until the end of time (read Exodus). The lamb of that sacrifice is replaced by the Lamb of God, Jesus, whose one-time Sacrifice is offered again and again. The earthly re-offering emulates what continues to happen in Heaven. Revelation depicts the Lamb, looking as though it is slain, which is Jesus, offering Himself to the Father again and again. Now, Jesus instituted His New Covenant priesthood for this purpose on earth. Their successors, down to today, continue to obey Jesus' mandate by being the instruments for Jesus to repeat His offering on earth for us to join in that offering, renewing our Covenant with God.
This has been the Christian doctrine since the beginning. Denial of it is a new, novel idea,
@Hosanna in Excelsis *Papacy is not a doctrine of the Bible. Why would Christians have pope? It's unbiblical.*
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the difference between the Catholic Church and Protestantism is that while we have one pope, you have thousands.
@Michael *As usual RCatsluvdarguments. Since when CHristians teach "Do not love" or "Do not do good works"?*
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St. Paul says in 1 Cor. 13, " If I have faith to move mountains, but have not love/charity.........I am nothing."
when we feed/house/clothe/and comfort Him via the least as is written in Matt. 25: 31-45.
@Michael *"an eye for an eye" is about revenge. Not restitution or penance. You see how you love misquoting Scriptures?*
*Zacchaeus was merely doing restitution as stipulated by Mosaic Law. Not Penance. He did not atone for any sins. Only Jesus' work at the Cross can atone for sins. You are preaching h-sies!*
Zacchaeus was under Mosaic Law. Are you under Mosaic Law?
Restitution is restoring goods. Penance is atonement for sins. Where in the Bible teach penance?
Exo 22:3 If the sun has risen on him, there shall be guilt for his bloodshed. He should make full restitution; if he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.
Exo 22:5 "If a man causes a field or vineyard to be grazed, and lets loose his animal, and it feeds in another man's field, he shall make restitution from the best of his own field and the best of his own vineyard.
Exo 22:6 "If fire breaks out and catches in thorns, so that stacked grain, standing grain, or the field is consumed, he who kindled the fire shall surely make restitution.
Exo 22:12 But if, in fact, it is stolen from him, he shall make restitution to the owner of it.
Lev 5:16 And he shall make restitution for the harm that he has done in regard to the holy thing, and shall add one-fifth to it and give it to the priest. So the priest shall make atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering, and it shall be forgiven him.
Num 5:7 then he shall confess the sin which he has committed. He shall make restitution for his trespass in full, plus one-fifth of it, and give it to the one he has wronged.
Num 5:8 But if the man has no relative to whom restitution may be made for the wrong, the restitution for the wrong must go to the LORD for the priest, in addition to the ram of the atonement with which atonement is made for him.
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........The OT law was 'an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth'.
In the presence of God/Jesus, Zaccheus purged himself of his treasure........amazing what we can do for Jesus.
@Turin21 *Yes from day 1 you make claims until now. So where is your proof?*
*- I asked: where in the Bible or history says R Church = the Church Christ founded or the Universal Church?
- You answered: Jesus founded the Universal Church. Lol.
*Even kindergartenkids know you are not answering my question.*
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It was designed by Jesus Himself to be the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic church. So from day 1 to answer your question.
"to haunt you for the rest of youre life" sir you have just earned a sub
The word of God haunts no one. What is a "sub"?
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You got both wrong🙄
The pastor said the picture of THE POPE may (jokingly) haunt you for the rest of your life. It was a light hearted joke, that's all.
Earning a "sub", simply means the commentator subscribed (sub'ed) to this particular RUclips channel.