Steinhart GMT owner here. Really like the watch. The only downside - I think the movement is an unknown (at least to me) and I'm not sure about repairability here in the States. That said, I have the Cronos No Time To Die homage and it's a very very nice watch, so I know what Maxi is capable of. I have no doubt the case and bezel are well finished, and I appreciate the details like the properly bidirectional GMT bezel. You don't see that too often. Looks like a winner to me.
@@altamushg ruclips.net/video/TyZpinYbq1o/видео.html - in case you want a different take on it. And Maxi is the guy who runs Cronos. Sadly Gary's review on this watch isn't online anymore. But Jody's review is above. I think his review is for the version 1 watch. The version 2 addresses issues like unsigned crown and the typeface for Cronos in the dial.
I was under the impression that both Pepsi and Coke bezels were difficult to do. It's the red part that makes it hard. That's why Pepsi and Coke bezels on most AliExpress watches tend to be aluminium.
I spent $406.00 on the version with the full lume bezel. It came yesterday and I am totally blown away. Your vid is spot on with regard to this watch's quality. It's just stunning. I'm about to pop off that annoying and utterly useless cyclops, so I don't think the framed date window will bother me that much. Other than that, this is the perfect GMT for me. It's got everything. Now, about this ceramic "Pepsi" bezel.... I asked a friend over last night and to bring his Rolex "Pepsi" GMT with him. It has the ceramic bezel that Rolex claims is the product of some complicated patented process - which, even if so, is obviously being manufactured for them in China. The two bezels are absolutely identical - even under magnification (the color split on the 6 is perfect on mine. Dead center), same exact color - at least to our eyes - identical feel and finish, we could not tell them apart. The actual differences between the two watches are subtle enough to see that the Cronos is an exact copy. Maybe I'm biased, but my eye was drawn to the Cronos.. Holding one in each hand there is absolutely no sign that your holding something of inferior quality with the Cronos. It holds it own easily. But that Cyclops...... Nevertheless, my friend paid almost $20,000 US for his Rolex from Bob's. If you can find an AD to sell you one, you'll pay about $10,500 US. And good luck finding one. And, when you think that Rolex is Spending $327 Miil on it's global partnership with Formula 1, that $10 - $20,000 difference between the Cronos and the Rolex becomes more logical. It's certainly not the difference in notable quality between the two.
Thanks Gary. The bezel movement is great, The watch works not a travel GMT you can change the 12 hour hand and date to whilst running, but at least the GMT hand is slaved to the hours and minutes, unlike the PD and Phylida ones. The jubilee is GUTTEN GUT. finish and comfort. The framed date window is terrible but also future proofing if you ever remove the cyclops. The clasp very poorly finished, as sharp as a blade, had to file it down.
I bought one of these straightaway after your earlier video introducing the Cronos and San Martin GMT's. I completely agree with your assessment- this is certainly the best watch I have ever encountered from a Chinese manufacturer. Interestingly, the red to blue transition in mine is bang in the middle of the six, so there must be a bit of unit-to-unit variation. The only other thing I would change is the end links of the very comfy J-style bracelet. It would be better if they were fully articulated. I have almost convinced myself that i like the framed date window.
Great video as always. Don't neglect the black-green with Green dial version, it is a gorgeous version as well, although a less habitual color combination. The ceramic is a very light green, and the dial is a deep forest green under laquer finish. No need for a sunburst effect for this beautiful color. Got mine in Canada QC in under a week, that's in consecutive days!
Hi Gary your the first person to review this watch, I have been checking daily for a review, and finally here it is!!! I am waiting on mine to arrive, it looks fantastic!!! I am by no means a watch snob, and I can't afford the original if there was one even available, but this one hit the spot for me!!! I have a couple other brands with the red blue insert, but the shinyness looks to metallic, and I was hoping for something very close to the original, and this watch is it wow! I did use your link , and I bought this watch because of your video about the manufacturing of this bezel, and how this and the San Martin were quality watches!!! I do hope they will offer the blue and black bezel on jubilee soon!!! I will definitely buy one!!! Have a wonderful day! And thanks for reviewing this watch!!!!
I've never wanted a GMT for my collection, one of those that when abroad I already know what time it is at home but realistically don't care....when away, I'm away....that said....I could be tempted by this one....it is very nice indeed and from what we can see of the finishing it does look a step above the competition.... ordinarily folks don't have faith in the warranties that accompany products from AE but I do get a sense of confidence from Cronos....⌚🏴⌚🏴
That looks like a properly well made homage. I own a Steinhart Vintage GMT with the ETA movement, now that's a watch. You are right Gary, there isn't such a thing as the perfect watch. that said, if I find it I will let you know
I really like the look of the watch, as a steinhart owner I’m probably biased 😂 but I suppose you pay more for the Swiss made name, and the actual Swiss ETA or sellita movement over the Chinese version - which on it’s own probably accounts for a good chunk of the price difference between itself and this. a really really nice looking watch though.
@Keyser Söze no I shouldn’t have bought this, the stein hart I have isn’t even the gmt version I was simply talking about the brand. Laugh all you want the specs of for example of ocean one isn’t that bad for the price so no
On e again, a home run review of a great watch. With current conditions and season I’m trying to slow down on watches but this is still a great value at close to $400. Thanks Gary
I have bought the cronos gmt and worn it for two days. I like the watch overall. The points you mentioned are also mine. Bezel is great. I dont like adjustment of crown feeling. First experience of using jubilee bracelet, I really like it but clasp is not good for that price. Also I like customer service. I asked them to dial without date frame and they removed it. Also one more point that I didnt like is that tone of index and hands are not close. Maybe they can solve that problem also for next batch.
14:10 ... and that's why I still think you should be reviewing both the Steinhart 39 Vintage GMT and their new-ish, more modern looking ceramic Pepsi GMT. What I really prefer about these two (and it's a very personal preference, I guess) is the fact that they aren't as close to the "real thing" as these Chinese homages are. The Vintage more so than the newer model, but even that one won't be easily mistaken for a GMT Master II.
Cool review, but I think we all see little problems with the watch as you said its close and your right. Get rid of the date window change the cyclops to sapphire and fix the the colours at 18 and 6 if Cronos could fix the small issues then I'm on it no problem.
Good review and a reasonable try for Cronos GMT V1. Improve the clasp, colour match indices with lume on bezel, remove cyclops ,maybe date frame? drilled lugs would be nice and more thought on hourglass logo and font! [can do better] until V2 powder will be kept dry.
IDK why it wouldn't be honestly?. Other than the fact that mineral cyclops are about $1 while sapphires are about $6usd. I guess they'd rather have the extra $5.
I do own the San Martin GMT. Which has a lot of similarities to the Chronos. Key differences: Unidirectional bezel, no loupe and it's on an oyster. But I think I would prefer the Chronos. If you ever want a trade gary, hit me up :) You could do a comparison or something.
Can't wait for the comparison with the San Martin GMT... The Chronos with that framed date window not really up to my liking. Gonna grab one whenever substantial sale is available in Ali.
Love this watch Gary - could you give us all a little “mini guide on why we need a Gmt” and how it works - giving a nice easy step by step example? I’ve never really grasped it myself so avoided them - but THAT looks the bomb to me!
This ticks all the "Pepsi GMT" boxes for me: proper ceramic insert, 24 hour bi-directional bezel, independent hour hand, good quality! I agree regarding the date frame. I'd have preferred either keeping it and losing the cyclops, or vice versa. I've seen cheaper Pepsi bezels where the red portion was painted. Don't like it. I don't mind paying extra for better features. Do you think they'll produce a "root beer" coloration?
Excellent review, for me though it looks like the colour of the indices doesn't match the colour of the hands and that's a deal breaker (indices are a cream colour, hands are more pure white), I think it makes a watch look really disjointed which is a shame as I think this is otherwise a really tempting offering. Glad I could see the video as the Ali Express photos don't reveal this!
I feel you would be a tad harsher if this was any other brand (excluding San Martin) considering the price and its faults/improvements, I agree with all your suggested improvements though, if all those got sorted I would consider. Like it on the black rubber strap too. I have a Batman Phylida GMT in the post see how that is for £58
Cronos is an impressive brand with outstanding fit and finish. This GMT with the Pepsi bezel insert is a great looking watch with great specs. Thanks for the review. Liking this one a lot.
I’m quite impressed by the build quality . However mine is running around 17 seconds fast so I’m not convinced by the movement. If the accuracy isn’t there then they have problems . You compare to steinhart remember they are using an ETA ..Time you add tax this is nearly 500 dollars which is relatively expensive . If you are going to charge this price then you probably have to bring a little more , accuracy, a little more premium packaging , better warranty, incidentally they charge the same price for the coke as they do the Pepsi . Look what Zelos are offering for 500 and this is the benchmark so a they have to up their game a fair bit ..
that looks awesome! I really love the red color of the bezel insert. Compared to the Steinhart, the red is really dark, which I like. Steinhart's red ceramic is a bit too bright. However, I wish the clasp and the case back would't be sterile, unfortunately its a dealbreaker for me. Hopefully they will do a 2nd version with a nice clasp, then I'm going to get one for sure!
I think the major plus other than the bezel insert is the bezel action itself. Not only is it bidirectional but 24 click! That’s HUGE! It’s stopped me from buying a GMT up until now. Also a note , love the looks on the straps on wrist at the end. Super helpful.
For that much money, I am already at an original Glycine Combat GMT, which is similar, but NOT a Rolex homage, or just about a wee over $100 away from an Airman, which was the genuine FIRST world time watch with multi time-zone capability! For an homage, the Pagani, or a Tandorio, are just fine and come in at under 100 bucks, with a well proven and reliable Seiko/TMI NH34A calibre, that is possible to regulate fairly easily! They ALSO have red and blue ceramic bezels! Think about it: Do the high temp baking first, then add the low temp colour, done. No big deal at all, and the price tag proves it! Easy peasy!
No, it's not a Rolex will drive me crazy. Whether the watch is good value or not it is getting pricey, not sure about the movement to get it serviced and get parts in future. I'd have preferred a Swiss movement, instead of that ceramic bezel. In fact I would have go and get the inspiration from the 1675 from the 60's, add some fauxtina for full effect and a proper aluminium bezel that will fade with salt water... And is that simple to get a new one if so you wish. Great review as usual.
Hello Gary, I am interested in purchasing this gmt Cronos. I went to alliexpress via your site but I can't find the discount code. Can you please direct me in the right direction? Thanks....
Why ohh why ohh why can manufacturers put the regular hour hand on the first click. That’s how you use a GMT watch while traveling. You leave the GMT hand to GMT and then change the local hour hand as you travel across. That way you only have to pull the crown one position, without messing up your hack and change the local time hour. The way it’s implemented on this watch you have to mess up tour hack to change the local time, then reset where GMT time is and fix the date if needed. If the two hour hands were switched in selection function, all you have to do is change the local time hour, maybe the date but that’s still in the same crown position AND it doesn’t mess up your hack.
Great review!! I got the blue/blue submariner homage from Cronos on 11/11 and it's just fantastic. The PT5000 movement (after 3 weeks of wearing) is running at less +1.0 sec/day. Does this bracelet taper from 20mm to 16mm? It looks like one of the best homage bracelets I have seen ... especially the end links. Thanks!
Another great review Gary! I love this watch. Listening to your presentation, it occurred to me that you are the David Attenborough of watch reviewers.
This puts the Bliger Pepsi GMT I once had to shame! The bezel insert was allegedly ceramic, but it was obviously painted over. I agree regarding the date frame. Either that or the cyclops would've worked but not both. I rather like the clasp, though I'd consider swapping it for a glide lock or easy-link.
You really piqued my interest when you mentioned the bidirectional bezel. But best GMT under 1K? Hell no, my Steinhart vintage GMT blows this out of the water every day of the year.
@@ilikewatches I own the San Martin V3 and the Steinhart vintage 39mm pepsi. So that's kind of where I can compare the two. I agree with what you said at the time about your Steinhart, you can't justify the price compared to the San Martin. You were probably the reason I bought the San Martin, now that I think of it. My Steinhart is even more expensive than the one you had, but you also get a lot more. I feel the case fits the vintage look much better than the modern sub or GMT. The finishing is nicer as well, with a display caseback and bevelled lugs. The movement decoration is very impressive. It also has a lumed ceramic pepsi bezel and a dial that has a kind of bronze reflection to it, imitating a tropical dial. The lumed bezel flows very nicely into a double domed sapphire crystal with lots of AR coating. It's probably the closest I'll ever get to a 6542 GMT Master and it's the watch I wear most by far, even though it's not the most expensive one I own.
Ho visto solo ora questo video e sono contento di ritrovare tutte le considerazioni che ho fatto decidendo di acquistarlo. Tra il 3 ed 9/novembre dovrebbe arrivare, così ho anche sdoganato una spesa importante su AliExpress...ma, ho avuto modo di colloquiare con il negozio ufficiale Cronos che mi ha fatto una buonissima impressione.
the clasp looks fairly terrible, but I bet it's comfy! And the clasp/bracelet could easily be swapped for a pagani or ali express aftermarket I assume. The price is just too much for me compared to the PD 1662 pepsi, which imo has a superior clasp and is pretty much a very similar watch, just not got the ceramic bezel and 200m water resist (but 100m is acceptable). If this was £150-200 maybe, but not over £300. However, I am aware the pepsi bezel in ceramic is a bastard to make
I was really looking forward to seeing this review video and it was another brilliant one, thank you Gary👍. And I get it, this watch is well made and contains some expensive parts. I was impressed by the macro shots of the ceramic bezel insert In particular. But when a watch costs nearly $400 USD I believe you can expect higher standards. That's why I am a bit disappointed by this watch. Why did Cronos apply a mineral crystal cyclops? Failed on the home stretch, I'd call this. The cyclops is the most exposed part of the entire crystal. I mean, you're getting sapphire crystal cyclopses on 60 $ Pagani Design watches, I tested it. And I really don't like the frame around the date window under the cyclops, this cheapens the look in my opinion. Sorry but this my opinion about this watch! 🧐
Is such a shame nor chronos or San Martin make an all black version of this, I love GMT watches and i use them as a pilot but i like how elegant they look on all black
I believe there's a new san martin gmt with a jubilee a loupe and new clasp and bidirectional bezel . D'you think cronos it's still a better choice though? Cheers mate
Is it? Have you tested it or had it confirmed by Cronos? I’ve tested a number of Crystals ant they test positive both sides and even on the edge so are they coating every surface?
Hi Gary,where is your review of the san martin retro diver gone?? I've just got mine and would love to see that review again,thanks for the videos as always👍🏻👌🏻
Hi Peter, because San Martin have started to sell that watch with submariner on the dial again, I was wary of being accused of promoting a watch that breaches trademark laws again.
@@ilikewatches hi Gary,I'm talking about the one with the rivets on the bracelet,no date,domed crystal,I think you referred to it as your new favourite san martin watch at the time👍🏻
In the Cronos store, the color or style selector section has CF, GD, and FL. Can you explain these abbreviations please. I've looked everywhere I can think of and can't find it. Thank you
The frame on the date window obviously is there in case someone removes the cyclops. I believe that is a nice thought by them, because i really despise unframed date windows that look like someone cut a hole in the dial. What bugs me a bit is that the indices and the handset are a bit too creme in comparison with the bezel numbers that are clear white. They should have made them the same color one way or the other. I also, still, don't particularly like the cronos branding and font (even thought it is much better than before). And since i am not a fan of sterile dials, it kinda is an issue to some degree for me. Despite the above, in general lines, the watch looks great and i will consider buying it in the future. San Martin really shot themselves in the foot by making their version with that awful, out of place, tiny unframed window. If they had put a cyclops on it, it would have been better, but they managed to completely mess with the date. I am sure many people bought it nevertheless...
Fantastic watch! Was waiting for your review and can't wait to see the comparison vs San Martin. Small improvements to add.. sapphire cyclops and lumed bezel.
Great review, as always, Gary! Need your advice: between the Cronos Submariner and the San Martin Water Ghost... which one would you recommend? I have 6.25 inch wrists, so probably I should go with the San Martin. I remember you mentioned the end link to end link on the San Martin being roughly 51mm, while it is 53-54mm on the Cronos, right?
@@ilikewatches thanks for the speedy reply, I did contact the seller Mechanical Watch Club Store but they informed me they couldn’t sort this. Might just go for the San Martin though I prefer the proper gmt hand on the Cronos. In your honest opinion which do you think is finished the best?
Too expensive in my opinion taking into account the poor quality clasp, the timegrapher results, the date frame and the cyclops. Useful review that indicates it's worth waiting.
Put the new clasp they have now on the sub or the dayjust on this one and stamp it with their beautiful Cronos logo, make the cyclop a safire cristal, no date frame, and you have the best and most beautiful watch on aliexpress hands down.
I really like the new San Martin signed clasp like on their new vintage diver. If San Martin make this watch with that clasp and a lumed bezel and a cyclops I’d be all over it.
Just received my Cronos GMT. Unfortunately the bezel and the cyclops lens are very badly positioned! Does anyone have the same problem? How can I correct the position at least of the bezel? Regards from Germany, Frank
Great comment! Honestly I’m not crazy about it at all. They did so much marketing it became a standard but honestly it would be tacky anywhere else. I really like the Lorier logo. I don’t mind the Cronos name, that’s actual quite good, but would change the font and logo. Maybe I could give it a go. Not easy I know!
Hello, I was excited waiting for this Cronos gmt to add to my collection and received it today. I will say that it is an extremely attractive watch and very comfortable on my 7 1/2 " . Unfortunately there are a few flaws that I wasn't expecting at this price. 1, the bezel movement is by far the worst of my 7 other watches with bezels. It is very bad, even worse then my inexpensive Vostocs. Plus the bezel has side to side movement, alot of movement. Plus there is a speck of dust on the underside of the crystal. My Seiko divers and even my Heimdalrs are better quality. I will just live with it. Disappointed!!!
No, I was just over optimistic. The process of dealing with a dealer so far away is just not something I wish to deal with. Overall it is very nice watch and like you said, there is no such thing as a perfect watch. Your evaluation if the watch is spot on.....
Great video. Love the watch. I'd remove that cyclops anyway...not a fan of them. It is a watch I would love to own...perhaps down the road...or on the "used market". Thanks for showing us a great timepiece.
Small thing, but I'm so glad you take the gloves off when using the functions on the watch. Makes my teeth grate when the urban gentry winds a watch with the gloves on
Hey All. I'm liking this. I bought a Parnis GMT copy a while back with the intention of modding it into the famous bezel-less GMT Capt. Kurtz wore in Apocalypse Now! Google 'Marlon Brandos Rolex GMT' if you aren't familiar with the watch. Anyway. Long story short it was a disaster! The lume disintegrated when it was being aged and the pinion broke when the second hand was being replaced! So, the question is: do I buy another, more expensive watch and repeat the exercise?, or let dead dogs die? 🙄
OK Watch, I sent mine back to Amazon. Really bad finishing on the case and bracelet, super sharp edges. Also ran -30 a day, so... Yeah, not worth $400 to me.
I'm so much waiting for the Cronos GMT Vs. San Martin GMT review. Great review, thanks!
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Steinhart GMT owner here. Really like the watch. The only downside - I think the movement is an unknown (at least to me) and I'm not sure about repairability here in the States.
That said, I have the Cronos No Time To Die homage and it's a very very nice watch, so I know what Maxi is capable of. I have no doubt the case and bezel are well finished, and I appreciate the details like the properly bidirectional GMT bezel. You don't see that too often.
Looks like a winner to me.
Do you have a link to the Kronos NTTD homage?
@@altamushg who is Maxi? Where did you find it?
@@altamushg ruclips.net/video/TyZpinYbq1o/видео.html - in case you want a different take on it.
And Maxi is the guy who runs Cronos.
Sadly Gary's review on this watch isn't online anymore. But Jody's review is above. I think his review is for the version 1 watch. The version 2 addresses issues like unsigned crown and the typeface for Cronos in the dial.
@@LymanPhillips ohh right. This one. Thanks so much for this!
I was under the impression that both Pepsi and Coke bezels were difficult to do. It's the red part that makes it hard. That's why Pepsi and Coke bezels on most AliExpress watches tend to be aluminium.
It's hard to do in a single continuous piece of ceramic.
I spent $406.00 on the version with the full lume bezel. It came yesterday and I am totally blown away. Your vid is spot on with regard to this watch's quality. It's just stunning. I'm about to pop off that annoying and utterly useless cyclops, so I don't think the framed date window will bother me that much. Other than that, this is the perfect GMT for me. It's got everything.
Now, about this ceramic "Pepsi" bezel.... I asked a friend over last night and to bring his Rolex "Pepsi" GMT with him. It has the ceramic bezel that Rolex claims is the product of some complicated patented process - which, even if so, is obviously being manufactured for them in China. The two bezels are absolutely identical - even under magnification (the color split on the 6 is perfect on mine. Dead center), same exact color - at least to our eyes - identical feel and finish, we could not tell them apart.
The actual differences between the two watches are subtle enough to see that the Cronos is an exact copy. Maybe I'm biased, but my eye was drawn to the Cronos.. Holding one in each hand there is absolutely no sign that your holding something of inferior quality with the Cronos. It holds it own easily. But that Cyclops...... Nevertheless, my friend paid almost $20,000 US for his Rolex from Bob's. If you can find an AD to sell you one, you'll pay about $10,500 US. And good luck finding one. And, when you think that Rolex is Spending $327 Miil on it's global partnership with Formula 1, that $10 - $20,000 difference between the Cronos and the Rolex becomes more logical. It's certainly not the difference in notable quality between the two.
Thanks Gary. The bezel movement is great, The watch works not a travel GMT you can change the 12 hour hand and date to whilst running, but at least the GMT hand is slaved to the hours and minutes, unlike the PD and Phylida ones. The jubilee is GUTTEN GUT. finish and comfort. The framed date window is terrible but also future proofing if you ever remove the cyclops. The clasp very poorly finished, as sharp as a blade, had to file it down.
I bought one of these straightaway after your earlier video introducing the Cronos and San Martin GMT's. I completely agree with your assessment- this is certainly the best watch I have ever encountered from a Chinese manufacturer. Interestingly, the red to blue transition in mine is bang in the middle of the six, so there must be a bit of unit-to-unit variation. The only other thing I would change is the end links of the very comfy J-style bracelet. It would be better if they were fully articulated. I have almost convinced myself that i like the framed date window.
Great video as always. Don't neglect the black-green with Green dial version, it is a gorgeous version as well, although a less habitual color combination. The ceramic is a very light green, and the dial is a deep forest green under laquer finish. No need for a sunburst effect for this beautiful color. Got mine in Canada QC in under a week, that's in consecutive days!
Hi Gary your the first person to review this watch, I have been checking daily for a review, and finally here it is!!! I am waiting on mine to arrive, it looks fantastic!!! I am by no means a watch snob, and I can't afford the original if there was one even available, but this one hit the spot for me!!! I have a couple other brands with the red blue insert, but the shinyness looks to metallic, and I was hoping for something very close to the original, and this watch is it wow! I did use your link , and I bought this watch because of your video about the manufacturing of this bezel, and how this and the San Martin were quality watches!!! I do hope they will offer the blue and black bezel on jubilee soon!!! I will definitely buy one!!! Have a wonderful day! And thanks for reviewing this watch!!!!
Your knowledge of manufacturing is awesome.
I would never have thought this bezel was special in any way.
I've never wanted a GMT for my collection, one of those that when abroad I already know what time it is at home but realistically don't care....when away, I'm away....that said....I could be tempted by this one....it is very nice indeed and from what we can see of the finishing it does look a step above the competition.... ordinarily folks don't have faith in the warranties that accompany products from AE but I do get a sense of confidence from Cronos....⌚🏴⌚🏴
That looks like a properly well made homage. I own a Steinhart Vintage GMT with the ETA movement, now that's a watch. You are right Gary, there isn't such a thing as the perfect watch. that said, if I find it I will let you know
I was just searching for a review of this watch half an hour ago, thanks for the upload, great as always 😁
Thanks Gary. Also happy you were first out with the the vid for this one!!
I really like the look of the watch, as a steinhart owner I’m probably biased 😂 but I suppose you pay more for the Swiss made name, and the actual Swiss ETA or sellita movement over the Chinese version - which on it’s own probably accounts for a good chunk of the price difference between itself and this.
a really really nice looking watch though.
Agreed.
@Keyser Söze no I shouldn’t have bought this, the stein hart I have isn’t even the gmt version I was simply talking about the brand. Laugh all you want the specs of for example of ocean one isn’t that bad for the price so no
On e again, a home run review of a great watch. With current conditions and season I’m trying to slow down on watches but this is still a great value at close to $400. Thanks Gary
Totally agree on the framed date window ... it’s looks weird and for me ruins what is supposed to be a perfect homage.
I have bought the cronos gmt and worn it for two days. I like the watch overall. The points you mentioned are also mine. Bezel is great. I dont like adjustment of crown feeling. First experience of using jubilee bracelet, I really like it but clasp is not good for that price. Also I like customer service. I asked them to dial without date frame and they removed it. Also one more point that I didnt like is that tone of index and hands are not close. Maybe they can solve that problem also for next batch.
Hey Gary Nice Watch ! Thanks for the demo on the Cronos Pepsi GMT. I,m looking forward to buying this Watch ,Can,t wait until it arrives.
Made me smile when you said "Very healthy movement"
gary was just going through a motion
14:10 ... and that's why I still think you should be reviewing both the Steinhart 39 Vintage GMT and their new-ish, more modern looking ceramic Pepsi GMT. What I really prefer about these two (and it's a very personal preference, I guess) is the fact that they aren't as close to the "real thing" as these Chinese homages are. The Vintage more so than the newer model, but even that one won't be easily mistaken for a GMT Master II.
Cool review, but I think we all see little problems with the watch as you said its close and your right. Get rid of the date window change the cyclops to sapphire and fix the the colours at 18 and 6 if Cronos could fix the small issues then I'm on it no problem.
Got mine yesterday. Looks great! Glad I didn't go with the Pagani.
Good review and a reasonable try for Cronos GMT V1. Improve the clasp, colour match indices with lume on bezel, remove cyclops ,maybe date frame? drilled lugs would be nice and more thought on hourglass logo and font! [can do better] until V2 powder will be kept dry.
Excellent polished and detailed review. Why, oh why isn't the cyclops sapphire? It would be the first element to get knocked wouldn't it!
IDK why it wouldn't be honestly?. Other than the fact that mineral cyclops are about $1 while sapphires are about $6usd. I guess they'd rather have the extra $5.
Maybe to give people something to complain about 😂
I do own the San Martin GMT. Which has a lot of similarities to the Chronos. Key differences: Unidirectional bezel, no loupe and it's on an oyster. But I think I would prefer the Chronos. If you ever want a trade gary, hit me up :) You could do a comparison or something.
Oh and the SM Bezel is lumed.
Get the best of both worlds... Pepsi from San Martin.. Batman from Chronos
@@TheSerbianG cronos doesn't offer a Batman version
Can't wait for the comparison with the San Martin GMT... The Chronos with that framed date window not really up to my liking. Gonna grab one whenever substantial sale is available in Ali.
That really is a good looking watch. I love that you have 79 items in your cart (1:03). Lots of content coming up 😁
Nice information. It's good to hear where the money went and that they aren't just jacking up prices.
Are you saying you prefer the Chronos GMT over the San Martin GMT?
Love this watch Gary - could you give us all a little “mini guide on why we need a Gmt” and how it works - giving a nice easy step by step example? I’ve never really grasped it myself so avoided them - but THAT looks the bomb to me!
This ticks all the "Pepsi GMT" boxes for me: proper ceramic insert, 24 hour bi-directional bezel, independent hour hand, good quality! I agree regarding the date frame. I'd have preferred either keeping it and losing the cyclops, or vice versa. I've seen cheaper Pepsi bezels where the red portion was painted. Don't like it. I don't mind paying extra for better features. Do you think they'll produce a "root beer" coloration?
Excellent review, for me though it looks like the colour of the indices doesn't match the colour of the hands and that's a deal breaker (indices are a cream colour, hands are more pure white), I think it makes a watch look really disjointed which is a shame as I think this is otherwise a really tempting offering. Glad I could see the video as the Ali Express photos don't reveal this!
this is true.
Good catch, thats a dealbreaker indeed
Now I am regret to bought two Parnis/Pagani Design GMT insted just this one. The Chinese watch manufacturor are just getting better and better.
I'd still wait for San Martin GMT V2. V2 will have a jubilee bracelet option, and maybe a cyclops.
@@Godotlv5000 do you know when San Martin Gmt v2 come out?
@@trieunguyen5897 they said soon, probably beginnig of 2021
San Martin GMT v2 is out and available.
I feel you would be a tad harsher if this was any other brand (excluding San Martin) considering the price and its faults/improvements, I agree with all your suggested improvements though, if all those got sorted I would consider.
Like it on the black rubber strap too.
I have a Batman Phylida GMT in the post see how that is for £58
Cronos is an impressive brand with outstanding fit and finish. This GMT with the Pepsi bezel insert is a great looking watch with great specs. Thanks for the review. Liking this one a lot.
I’m quite impressed by the build quality . However mine is running around 17 seconds fast so I’m not convinced by the movement. If the accuracy isn’t there then they have problems . You compare to steinhart remember they are using an ETA ..Time you add tax this is nearly 500 dollars which is relatively expensive . If you are going to charge this price then you probably have to bring a little more , accuracy, a little more premium packaging , better warranty, incidentally they charge the same price for the coke as they do the Pepsi . Look what Zelos are offering for 500 and this is the benchmark so a they have to up their game a fair bit ..
that looks awesome! I really love the red color of the bezel insert. Compared to the Steinhart, the red is really dark, which I like. Steinhart's red ceramic is a bit too bright. However, I wish the clasp and the case back would't be sterile, unfortunately its a dealbreaker for me. Hopefully they will do a 2nd version with a nice clasp, then I'm going to get one for sure!
I think the major plus other than the bezel insert is the bezel action itself. Not only is it bidirectional but 24 click! That’s HUGE! It’s stopped me from buying a GMT up until now. Also a note , love the looks on the straps on wrist at the end. Super helpful.
Phylida's Batman GMT has 24-click, bidirectional bezel.
For that much money, I am already at an original Glycine Combat GMT, which is similar, but NOT a Rolex homage, or just about a wee over $100 away from an Airman, which was the genuine FIRST world time watch with multi time-zone capability!
For an homage, the Pagani, or a Tandorio, are just fine and come in at under 100 bucks, with a well proven and reliable Seiko/TMI NH34A calibre, that is possible to regulate fairly easily! They ALSO have red and blue ceramic bezels! Think about it: Do the high temp baking first, then add the low temp colour, done. No big deal at all, and the price tag proves it! Easy peasy!
No, it's not a Rolex will drive me crazy. Whether the watch is good value or not it is getting pricey, not sure about the movement to get it serviced and get parts in future. I'd have preferred a Swiss movement, instead of that ceramic bezel. In fact I would have go and get the inspiration from the 1675 from the 60's, add some fauxtina for full effect and a proper aluminium bezel that will fade with salt water... And is that simple to get a new one if so you wish. Great review as usual.
Detailed video, and great looking watch only other thing I would change is I'm not a fan of the end links over hanging from the lugs!
Hello Gary, I am interested in purchasing this gmt Cronos. I went to alliexpress via your site but I can't find the discount code. Can you please direct me in the right direction? Thanks....
Mine has a shorter bracelet. I also have a 7.5 inch wrist and I did not have to remove any links.
Why ohh why ohh why can manufacturers put the regular hour hand on the first click.
That’s how you use a GMT watch while traveling. You leave the GMT hand to GMT and then change the local hour hand as you travel across. That way you only have to pull the crown one position, without messing up your hack and change the local time hour.
The way it’s implemented on this watch you have to mess up tour hack to change the local time, then reset where GMT time is and fix the date if needed. If the two hour hands were switched in selection function, all you have to do is change the local time hour, maybe the date but that’s still in the same crown position AND it doesn’t mess up your hack.
Great review!! I got the blue/blue submariner homage from Cronos on 11/11 and it's just fantastic. The PT5000 movement (after 3 weeks of wearing) is running at less +1.0 sec/day. Does this bracelet taper from 20mm to 16mm? It looks like one of the best homage bracelets I have seen ... especially the end links. Thanks!
Another great review Gary! I love this watch. Listening to your presentation, it occurred to me that you are the David Attenborough of watch reviewers.
This puts the Bliger Pepsi GMT I once had to shame! The bezel insert was allegedly ceramic, but it was obviously painted over. I agree regarding the date frame. Either that or the cyclops would've worked but not both. I rather like the clasp, though I'd consider swapping it for a glide lock or easy-link.
Really like this one, would have to be heavily discounted for me to buy one tho. Need to check for sales...
You really piqued my interest when you mentioned the bidirectional bezel. But best GMT under 1K? Hell no, my Steinhart vintage GMT blows this out of the water every day of the year.
I had a Steinhart ocean one 39mm and it wasn’t that great... is the gmt noticeably better?
@@ilikewatches I own the San Martin V3 and the Steinhart vintage 39mm pepsi. So that's kind of where I can compare the two.
I agree with what you said at the time about your Steinhart, you can't justify the price compared to the San Martin. You were probably the reason I bought the San Martin, now that I think of it.
My Steinhart is even more expensive than the one you had, but you also get a lot more. I feel the case fits the vintage look much better than the modern sub or GMT. The finishing is nicer as well, with a display caseback and bevelled lugs. The movement decoration is very impressive. It also has a lumed ceramic pepsi bezel and a dial that has a kind of bronze reflection to it, imitating a tropical dial. The lumed bezel flows very nicely into a double domed sapphire crystal with lots of AR coating. It's probably the closest I'll ever get to a 6542 GMT Master and it's the watch I wear most by far, even though it's not the most expensive one I own.
Ho visto solo ora questo video e sono contento di ritrovare tutte le considerazioni che ho fatto decidendo di acquistarlo.
Tra il 3 ed 9/novembre dovrebbe arrivare, così ho anche sdoganato una spesa importante su AliExpress...ma, ho avuto modo di colloquiare con il negozio ufficiale Cronos che mi ha fatto una buonissima impressione.
I’m all for paying a bit more for better but the Pagani is almost 1/4 of this price. The bezel is high enamel so it looks great.
You should have picked up the San Martin of the same design. Much better!
Good shout. Prompts a head to head......
the clasp looks fairly terrible, but I bet it's comfy! And the clasp/bracelet could easily be swapped for a pagani or ali express aftermarket I assume. The price is just too much for me compared to the PD 1662 pepsi, which imo has a superior clasp and is pretty much a very similar watch, just not got the ceramic bezel and 200m water resist (but 100m is acceptable). If this was £150-200 maybe, but not over £300. However, I am aware the pepsi bezel in ceramic is a bastard to make
my PD 1662 pepsi does not change the date well anymore, it half hangs
I was really looking forward to seeing this review video and it was another brilliant one, thank you Gary👍. And I get it, this watch is well made and contains some expensive parts. I was impressed by the macro shots of the ceramic bezel insert In particular. But when a watch costs nearly $400 USD I believe you can expect higher standards. That's why I am a bit disappointed by this watch. Why did Cronos apply a mineral crystal cyclops? Failed on the home stretch, I'd call this. The cyclops is the most exposed part of the entire crystal. I mean, you're getting sapphire crystal cyclopses on 60 $ Pagani Design watches, I tested it. And I really don't like the frame around the date window under the cyclops, this cheapens the look in my opinion. Sorry but this my opinion about this watch! 🧐
Wish the bezel was lumed! Then this watch would be perfect
I am doubtful about the need for lume on a GMT bezel. I have never felt the need to see two different time zones in total darkness.
@@johndesmond1987 can never say no to more lume... Can you?
Go Phylida, but the hands are the first to fade.
@@wristwatch15 they do a pepsi GMT with jubilee?
@@Zzutubez no but you can swap the bracelet for the pagani design one for like 20 bucks.
Is such a shame nor chronos or San Martin make an all black version of this, I love GMT watches and i use them as a pilot but i like how elegant they look on all black
Why is the lume always cream coloured from Cronos/San Martin??
I believe there's a new san martin gmt with a jubilee a loupe and new clasp and bidirectional bezel .
D'you think cronos it's still a better choice though?
Cheers mate
Not sure now San Martin have updated theirs....it will be close
This is a fantastic look watch - Thank you for another great review Gary 😊👍
Lens is only sapphire coated. Glass underneath. That's also why the cyclops is glass.
Is it? Have you tested it or had it confirmed by Cronos? I’ve tested a number of Crystals ant they test positive both sides and even on the edge so are they coating every surface?
Hi Gary,where is your review of the san martin retro diver gone?? I've just got mine and would love to see that review again,thanks for the videos as always👍🏻👌🏻
Hi Peter, because San Martin have started to sell that watch with submariner on the dial again, I was wary of being accused of promoting a watch that breaches trademark laws again.
@@ilikewatches hi Gary,I'm talking about the one with the rivets on the bracelet,no date,domed crystal,I think you referred to it as your new favourite san martin watch at the time👍🏻
@@ilikewatches the SN0004g video? Cheers
Hi Peter, yes that was the one I was referring to. I have made it live again....
Add a lumed insert, maybe.
Is that the same case as the water ghost?
In the Cronos store, the color or style selector section has CF, GD, and FL. Can you explain these abbreviations please. I've looked everywhere I can think of and can't find it. Thank you
I’ll take a look...
Cf is carbon Fibre dial, GD is green dial and FL is full lumed bezel insert...
Thank you for the quick reply. I really enjoy your channel.
The frame on the date window obviously is there in case someone removes the cyclops. I believe that is a nice thought by them, because i really despise unframed date windows that look like someone cut a hole in the dial. What bugs me a bit is that the indices and the handset are a bit too creme in comparison with the bezel numbers that are clear white. They should have made them the same color one way or the other. I also, still, don't particularly like the cronos branding and font (even thought it is much better than before). And since i am not a fan of sterile dials, it kinda is an issue to some degree for me. Despite the above, in general lines, the watch looks great and i will consider buying it in the future. San Martin really shot themselves in the foot by making their version with that awful, out of place, tiny unframed window. If they had put a cyclops on it, it would have been better, but they managed to completely mess with the date. I am sure many people bought it nevertheless...
Fantastic watch! Was waiting for your review and can't wait to see the comparison vs San Martin. Small improvements to add.. sapphire cyclops and lumed bezel.
Do the san martin GMT... plz.
Great review, as always, Gary! Need your advice: between the Cronos Submariner and the San Martin Water Ghost... which one would you recommend? I have 6.25 inch wrists, so probably I should go with the San Martin. I remember you mentioned the end link to end link on the San Martin being roughly 51mm, while it is 53-54mm on the Cronos, right?
Been waiting for this review, awesome Gary!
Cronos or San Martin is better on this watch?
I haven’t seen the San Martin but I think they are both amazing....you won’t be disappointed with either
How do buy the Cronos GMT from AliExpress without the frame around the date window, there seems to be no option to pick this way?
You may need to contact them via the contact store button in aliexpress
@@ilikewatches thanks for the speedy reply, I did contact the seller Mechanical Watch Club Store but they informed me they couldn’t sort this. Might just go for the San Martin though I prefer the proper gmt hand on the Cronos. In your honest opinion which do you think is finished the best?
Can’t you use any watch as a compass? It doesn’t have to be a gmt
Any analog watch, yes
The ETA 2836 is not a GMT Movement. Great review.
Too expensive in my opinion taking into account the poor quality clasp, the timegrapher results, the date frame and the cyclops. Useful review that indicates it's worth waiting.
very nice watch.. looks more expensive... cheers
Looks suspesiously like a steeldive case. All watches Comes From one factory
Steeldive, Chronos, and san martin
I would buy one if they had chosen another design or brand to homage. Unfortunately I am bored with the Rolex Sub design at this point.
Put the new clasp they have now on the sub or the dayjust on this one and stamp it with their beautiful Cronos logo, make the cyclop a safire cristal, no date frame, and you have the best and most beautiful watch on aliexpress hands down.
The clasp is a dealbreaker...why they didn’t just used the right one from their sub homage?
I really like the new San Martin signed clasp like on their new vintage diver. If San Martin make this watch with that clasp and a lumed bezel and a cyclops I’d be all over it.
@@altamushg San Martin do now have a version of this watch, it has a ceramic bezel as well, and date but no cyclops, but looks amazing to!!!
Because the bracelet is jubilee. The other clasp won't fit.
That's why hot taps are red and cold taps are blue. Completely different temperatures! ;-)
Just received my Cronos GMT. Unfortunately the bezel and the cyclops lens are very badly positioned! Does anyone have the same problem? How can I correct the position at least of the bezel? Regards from Germany, Frank
Contact San Martin and send them pictures. Visit their website and do it there too....
@@ilikewatches thanks a lot for your immediate answer. Do you really mean SanMartin? I am talking about a Cronos GMT?
I'm a graphic designer and the logo just doesn't do it for me. Deal breaker for pretty much all their products. I enjoy your reviews! Great stuff
If Rolex were just starting out, what would you say about theirs?
Great comment! Honestly I’m not crazy about it at all. They did so much marketing it became a standard but honestly it would be tacky anywhere else. I really like the Lorier logo. I don’t mind the Cronos name, that’s actual quite good, but would change the font and logo. Maybe I could give it a go. Not easy I know!
By the way, I love your channel, amazing content!
What about 116710 LN homage?! Black ceramic bezel insert=less expensive, right?🤑
Who will win this battle?
Hello, I was excited waiting for this Cronos gmt to add to my collection and received it today. I will say that it is an extremely attractive watch and very comfortable on my 7 1/2 " . Unfortunately there are a few flaws that I wasn't expecting at this price. 1, the bezel movement is by far the worst of my 7 other watches with bezels. It is very bad, even worse then my inexpensive Vostocs. Plus the bezel has side to side movement, alot of movement. Plus there is a speck of dust on the underside of the crystal. My Seiko divers and even my Heimdalrs are better quality. I will just live with it. Disappointed!!!
That is a shame…have you contacted them
No, I was just over optimistic. The process of dealing with a dealer so far away is just not something I wish to deal with. Overall it is very nice watch and like you said, there is no such thing as a perfect watch. Your evaluation if the watch is spot on.....
Darn you to heck, Gary! Why do you hate my bank account so much?!
Did anyone notice a price hike in the LGY store? Went from $484 CAD to $730 CAD for the pepsi fully lumed model
Great video. Love the watch. I'd remove that cyclops anyway...not a fan of them. It is a watch I would love to own...perhaps down the road...or on the "used market". Thanks for showing us a great timepiece.
Small thing, but I'm so glad you take the gloves off when using the functions on the watch. Makes my teeth grate when the urban gentry winds a watch with the gloves on
Hey All.
I'm liking this.
I bought a Parnis GMT copy a while back with the intention of modding it into the famous bezel-less GMT Capt. Kurtz wore in Apocalypse Now! Google 'Marlon Brandos Rolex GMT' if you aren't familiar with the watch.
Anyway. Long story short it was a disaster! The lume disintegrated when it was being aged and the pinion broke when the second hand was being replaced!
So, the question is: do I buy another, more expensive watch and repeat the exercise?, or let dead dogs die?
🙄
Is the red bezel ceramic?
The red and blue one is ceramic yes
Where is the discount code. Could not find it.
That Dateframe kills me! Also no Saphire on the magnifyer what are they thinking?
It didn't look like all the hands lined up exactly on the 12 o'clock marker. They seemed to all line up a hair past the mark.
Now with nh34 😊
OK Watch, I sent mine back to Amazon. Really bad finishing on the case and bracelet, super sharp edges. Also ran -30 a day, so... Yeah, not worth $400 to me.
I'd keep the frame around the date window, but remove the ugly cyclops. That's the better option IMO!
To expensive. As i have a parnis gmt.. cant get myself to pay that kind of money.
Does the gmt hands jump? On hour?
Can you get versions without the brand name on the dial?