Weather Monitoring on a 486 PC! 1990s Davis Weather Station

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  • Опубликовано: 7 окт 2021
  • Unboxing and setting up a new old stock Davis Instruments Complete Weather Station from 1997, plus WeatherLink hardware and software for Windows 3.1 PCs! I've always found weather equipment oddly enjoyable, but logging data on a 486 PC via the serial port? EXTRA FUN.
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  • @johns.7609
    @johns.7609 2 года назад +242

    1. I now want a weather station.
    2. Of course Clint recorded Hurricane Ida's passing with a vintage weather station and a 486.

    • @Religious_man
      @Religious_man 2 года назад +25

      He has one example of hurricane data. That's something he can be proud of. That and some astronomical information.

  • @oddojaggins
    @oddojaggins 2 года назад +866

    I've been real excited about this one since you did the unboxing. Now we expect an LGR blerb where you put a suit on in front of a green screen and give us a weather report using this program

  • @spacerat0n
    @spacerat0n 2 года назад +417

    I work at a college that still uses this exact hardware to monitor temperature and humidity in a greenhouse. An ambitious IT admin with some serial-to-ethernet adapters recently got the software up and running on a virtual server, so as to phase out the Windows XP machine that was running it previously. Nice to see a well-produced retrospective on it here!

    • @Alex_Valentine
      @Alex_Valentine 2 года назад +13

      Off the subject, you have a cool user name.

    • @DanielNoblett1111
      @DanielNoblett1111 2 года назад +7

      They make an Ethernet datalogger for it that can publish to the net or be quarried by the software, I like the idea of running it on a virtual machine, that's exactly what I did at the community college I worked at.

    • @ZackAviator
      @ZackAviator 2 года назад

      @LGR nice intro

    • @W1ldTangent
      @W1ldTangent 2 года назад +9

      I replaced the WinNT PC running a CNC mill type machine with a more modern one that ran the old software in a VM, it's a good way to keep equipment running that still functions as the owners/users desire and are familiar with. The original controller stopped working one day probably just due to the dust and debris of that shop environment, and spare parts are getting hard to come by so replacement was needed. I went with an industrial fanless PC with SSD, no moving parts. Hadn't thought of the idea of using serial-to-ethernet to relocate the controller entirely so it would not be so prone to getting shop debris though, that would have been a good idea, they could have just used a laptop or tablet with VNC to link into the hypervisor (KVM) for the interface. Ah well, that was some years ago now and I never heard any complaints so I assume it's either still working as is or they finally replaced the whole machine.

  • @emmy9345
    @emmy9345 2 года назад +821

    I'm a Meteorologist in the Royal Navy and I'm actually familiar with this kit though I'd long forgotten about it. Let me tell you its actually not so far from what we do operationally. We have handheld anemometers that are the exact same as that black one. What's missing is a Stevenson Screen with proper louvers and a wet and dry bulb so you can calculate dew point and therefore relative humidity accurately. An cheapo electronic set of sensors is very dubious to me haha. Rain collectors haven't changed for thousands of years but tipping bucket is a new one on me. And that little tiny computer is just adorable.
    On the software side it almost looks like a parody of the actual MMS software we use. Very interesting. One things that's also interesting is that if systems go down we are trained to parse and write down all the raw data you see in this vid.
    Edit: if anyone is interested on any particular point I'd be happy to tell all.

    • @theoriginalrecycler
      @theoriginalrecycler 2 года назад +33

      Whats the weather tomorrow.

    • @emmy9345
      @emmy9345 2 года назад +172

      @@Konarcoffee I assume you're trying to be rude. But that's about right yes you get trained on met equipment and use it to forecast along with Ensemble Forecasting using various computer models and tephigram balloon ascent forecasting which I find the more accurate.
      And the University of Plymouth would also call me a Meteorologist seeing as I have a degree from them.

    • @emmy9345
      @emmy9345 2 года назад +72

      @@theoriginalrecycler shite

    • @rwall514
      @rwall514 2 года назад +10

      Good parody or bad parody?

    • @emmy9345
      @emmy9345 2 года назад +21

      @@rwall514 good parody

  • @Aruneh
    @Aruneh 2 года назад +387

    Just what Clint needs, another addictive hobby.

    • @NorthStarBlue1
      @NorthStarBlue1 2 года назад +42

      Weather monitoring is one of those things that's fairly harmless but dangerously expensive if you really get interested in it, because you start thinking that if you're going to buy monitoring gear you may as well get the gear that gives you ALL the data, and lets you fully customize what's gathered and how it's presented and hey wait a minute where did my entire paycheck go???

    • @Isotempo
      @Isotempo 2 года назад +15

      That’s me with flight sims

    • @HeyItsCoates
      @HeyItsCoates 2 года назад +2

      Or cars

    • @mikethedigitaldoctorjarvis
      @mikethedigitaldoctorjarvis 2 года назад +6

      @@NorthStarBlue1 Yeah,it's cheaper to just look out of the window !

    • @bergfruehling
      @bergfruehling 2 года назад +18

      @@NorthStarBlue1 All of a sudden you find yourself launching 10 weather balloons a day...

  • @smugshrug
    @smugshrug 2 года назад +388

    I would've gone crazy over this as a kid. The charts are seriously addicting.

    • @UnitSe7en
      @UnitSe7en 2 года назад +22

      addictive

    • @QuintusAntonious
      @QuintusAntonious 2 года назад +9

      Not gonna lie, I am going crazy over this as an adult. I may actually look into picking up the modern stuff.

    • @onometre
      @onometre 2 года назад +6

      @@QuintusAntonious agree 100% my wallet is not going to be happy

    • @DarrenRockwell
      @DarrenRockwell 2 года назад +1

      @@QuintusAntonious These have gotten pretty popular in recent times, this is how the Weather Underground works

    • @jonasgrill1155
      @jonasgrill1155 2 года назад +1

      Same. I have no clue why, but I love collecting data and just appreciating it. It's super interesting to me.

  • @cjallday1130plays
    @cjallday1130plays 2 года назад +544

    the fact that Davis still makes weather stations for home use is just fascinating! I never heard of this company until the donation video where you first got it.

    • @gonace
      @gonace 2 года назад +30

      My though exactly, installed a Davis Weather Station "Vantage Pro 2" at my parents house a few weeks ago!

    • @5647mhjgt
      @5647mhjgt 2 года назад +54

      Yeah, I though so too.
      It's weird to see a company just doing their niche thing for dozens of years and not going under for one reason or the other, or branching out to some other market. I checked their website and it's all about weather stations and weather station accessories.

    • @RavenDaSergalOwO
      @RavenDaSergalOwO 2 года назад +6

      @@gonace How was it im interested maybe i can make a setup on the balcony of my apartment

    • @PigDan
      @PigDan 2 года назад +5

      Exactly! So interesting.

    • @gilramirez12
      @gilramirez12 2 года назад +10

      @@5647mhjgt they did make automotive and marine products for many years, but it seems they dropped that a few years ago.

  • @lazycrypt6893
    @lazycrypt6893 2 года назад +20

    Before watching the video: Must be oddware.
    After watching the video: Now I really want a weather station.

  • @boardsort
    @boardsort 2 года назад +163

    I ran this unit for years operating my voice dialup "Time, Temperature and Weather" line. I custom wrote the voice-over software that used a vocab of around 100 weather related words each in their own .wav file that I autonomously stitched together in a string of words culminating into a spoken time temp and forecast based on data derived from the Davis unit using OCX controls in VB.

    • @wtbman
      @wtbman 2 года назад +10

      I always wanted to setup my own PBX that did stuff like this (including reading emails) but the hardware was out of reach of my teenage budget and then the internet/smartphones/etc. took over the need for services like that. At an old job I once made a caller id spoofer (call a specific number, type the number you want to appear as, type the number you want to call). It used IP based phone lines and Genesys software, also coded in VB (and later JS). Fun times.

    • @boardsort
      @boardsort 2 года назад +8

      ​@@wtbman The general public had no idea they were calling into my home automation network. In addition to the Davis weather device, you could dial #2323 at a certain point which voice prompted an X10 power control setup on the same system where I could poll the status of and turn off/on/dim any of the lights and appliances that were on the network. It worked with my home security as well (also X10).

    • @melskunk
      @melskunk 2 года назад +7

      Out of curiosity, how much traffic did your line get back in the day?

  • @trofl
    @trofl 2 года назад +67

    I helped deploy leaf wetness sensors (among other weather instrumentation) in grad school. They're often used for monitoring plant disease potential, as molds and fungi grow on wet leaves. They're binary sensors (wet/dry), and lengths of time of continuous wetness are what (usually) correlate to disease.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  2 года назад +25

      Well dang. Had no idea, thanks for the info!

    • @trofl
      @trofl 2 года назад +10

      @@LGR glad to share my own little connection to some (meteorological) oddware, and thanks to you for the awesome video!

  • @UnderTheSkin13
    @UnderTheSkin13 2 года назад +181

    Back in the 90's when I was a kid our teacher assigned groups with "environmentally conscious" science projects and me and my partner were saddled with weather monitoring. We had to make an analog weather station (windsock, leveled water collector, everything was handmade and checked visually). When we presented our findings the next month she complained that there were only results from the late evenings during weekdays and got mad at us when we explained we had to be in school.

    • @seamarie3111
      @seamarie3111 2 года назад +33

      Cool project, crap expectations ... I mean, what kind of ninny expects more than like one reading a day from a couple of kids who are, as you said, in school? Not to mention doing homework, eating, sleeping, and actually just ... being kids? She's lucky you gave her reliable evening readings at all!

    • @handlesarefeckinstupid
      @handlesarefeckinstupid 2 года назад

      Your teacher was an idiot. We've all had them.

    • @grauekatze
      @grauekatze Год назад +1

      Yeah that sounds like school silliness. At least it's funny decades later!

    • @TLDW31
      @TLDW31 Год назад

      British primary school?

  • @Kodemaestro
    @Kodemaestro 2 года назад +193

    I got the Weatherflow Tempest from a Kickstarter campaign last year - It's very cool. I just have it in my back garden, though as a pilot, I've been considering asking the owner of the airfield that I fly from to install one. It always amuses me when it rains and my phone sends pings an alert that it's "Currently raining at home"... My wife is not so impressed, usually responding "yeah, I can see that..."

  • @nobodysbusiness87
    @nobodysbusiness87 2 года назад +64

    The temperature sensor probably was accurate back in the 90's. In my experience 90's thermocouples have all deteriorated with age in a way that makes them all read very high.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  2 года назад +39

      Ah that sucks! I’ll definitely be grabbing a new one to try with this

    • @fisqual
      @fisqual 2 года назад +9

      Automotive temperature sensors become inaccurate after about 15-20 years as well.

    • @nobodysbusiness87
      @nobodysbusiness87 2 года назад +9

      @@fisqual They mostly work the same way. As a matter of fact the outside temperature sensor on my 1994 Mercedes S320 thinks its 90 degrees when its only 70.

    • @moconnell663
      @moconnell663 2 года назад +1

      I have a Dixon Temprobe 1 handheld digital thermocouple from the early 1980s that is still accurate. I wonder what made the 90s units inferior.

    • @nobodysbusiness87
      @nobodysbusiness87 2 года назад +4

      @@moconnell663Maybe the chemistry or packaging of thermistor is different. I imagine the storage conditions and usage will effect the rate of degradation as well. Its also possible that other components in the circuit like bad caps could cause a bad reading. All the bad ones ive seen get a very steep resistance curve that makes them hyper responsive. ive seen them read 1.5-3 degrees for every real degree of temperature change.

  • @Discostick55
    @Discostick55 2 года назад +38

    Oh man look at that boxart. Maybe I'm a little graphic design nerd but I swear, there's something special about old software manuals, boxes and ads

  • @Markimark151
    @Markimark151 2 года назад +113

    This was also used in school districts, because our teacher would get a fax of local weather forecasts during storms, if class would remain open during big storms!

  • @matthewnewman5477
    @matthewnewman5477 2 года назад +71

    I run an Ambient Weather station just for my own amusement. The base station has an ESP based wifi module and can feed data to Weather Underground for use in their prediction models, so it feels like I'm contributing something. I love the idea of community fed data aggregation systems. I also run an RTL-SDR system to observe and report ADS-B data from airplanes, and gather random 433mhz broadcasting sensors in my neighborhood. There's a lightning detection system as well that uses gps time stamping to triangulate strike positions with data from other sensors....
    Weather stations are a gateway drug to distributed sensor network obsession.

    • @nicwilson89
      @nicwilson89 2 года назад +1

      Gotta love some SDR

    • @patricknelson
      @patricknelson 2 года назад

      I kinda enjoy that myself, too. However, I basically have the smooth-brained version of this (PurpleAir, plug in, setup WiFi, walk away). What I wanted to do instead (since I’m in California) was setup a mini display in my living room that rendered the current AQI, which is useful in the summer, considering all the wildfires.
      EDIT: So… yeah… nothing even remotely as advanced as that, but I find it fascinating and can appreciate the folks who can really geek out on it.

  • @S9uareHead
    @S9uareHead 2 года назад +10

    The footage of the kit in the rain at 18:30 is kind of romantic in a way. The weather station is all alone on the rain, doing its duty of collecting weather data for you.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  2 года назад +3

      Yes! It's comforting.

  • @freeparking301
    @freeparking301 2 года назад +29

    “I didn’t see any rain today but my rain gauge is saying we got two hundredths of an inch. *walks outside to check gauge* Damn birds!!!!”

  • @therealCG62
    @therealCG62 2 года назад +85

    just in case anyone from davis instruments is watching, sending clint a few of your more modern weather sensors and recording hardware would seriously influence myself and i imagine a large portion of lgr's audience to potentially purchase from your company

  • @chartle1
    @chartle1 2 года назад +61

    Based on the price tag I wonder if this was pitched to the people who manage docks. People who owned boats could call the number for the weather.
    When I was young we could tune to a cable TV station that had a camera pointing at a wall of various gauges.
    Note this was when we only had maybe 13 to 15 channels. There just wasn't anymore content. We had 3 network, 2 Public, and a few VHS stations in the mid to late 70s.

    • @teh_supar_hackr
      @teh_supar_hackr 2 года назад +6

      Reminds me of this one time I found this TV channel that was in the really high numbers that was a simple powerpoint presentation which had a window over everything saying to register Windows. It was pretty funny to see, and was up there for a few months when I discovered it some years ago.

  • @jonc-1989
    @jonc-1989 2 года назад +68

    Oh man. I love seeing graphs and stats in a DOS or early GUI environment, I very much love weather and monitoring it and always wanted a Davis Weather Station.... LGR has combined both together.... Today is a good day

    • @Booruvcheek
      @Booruvcheek 2 года назад

      I was actually hoping Clint would download the DOS version from the interwebs and show that too. Can't remember many pieces of "business-type" software for DOS in anything other than text screen mode, so I was curious.
      There was a reason for that - several types of graphics cards with distinctly different modes (different resolutions, different number of colors) were out there: CGA, EGA, VGA, Hercules, Tandy. So if you wanted people to buy your software, you'd better support them.
      Text modes, on the other hand were the same, or very close, so they were the standard pretty much.

  • @matthuck378
    @matthuck378 2 года назад +12

    This product screams well off retired engineer grandfather, lol. Love it.
    Also, cool new knife! 3:30 I like the Kershaw Skyline series.

  • @jurepo
    @jurepo 2 года назад +24

    This is really nostalgic, we had this system at our farm when I was growing up. I didn't use computer software but I remember dad was using it. At cold winter mornings I used to check from weather station what was the coldest temperature of night

  • @TheDrunkenBeard
    @TheDrunkenBeard 2 года назад +31

    "Highs of 107 degrees... Uhh no that would be insane!"
    Phoenix - "Haha, I'm in danger..."

    • @em_birch
      @em_birch 2 года назад +5

      tbf 107 in Asheville would be some doomsday level heat. Like, something is WRONG type heat.🤣

    • @Chaos89P
      @Chaos89P 2 года назад +3

      Yeah, this is Asheville, North Carolina, we're talking about here. The Appalachians, especially the Blue Ridge area, rarely go into the triple digits even during the dog days. Even if it does, it's like 102° at the most.

    • @99Kuromaru
      @99Kuromaru 2 года назад +1

      @@em_birch same in Europe.

  • @yakacm
    @yakacm 2 года назад +55

    I remember going on holiday to Greece, and every day when we got up it was sunny, and then all day long it was sunny, then all evening until the sun went down it was sunny, that's all it ever was sunny, with light winds, day in day out, and it made me realise why British ppl talk about the weather a lot, it's because we get so damn much of it, we can have more weather in half an hour than I did for the full 2 weeks we were in Greece, lol..

    • @1Thunderfire
      @1Thunderfire 2 года назад +2

      It feels wrong when we haven't had rain for two weeks. I honestly would find it difficult to cope living in a place that barely gets rain.

  • @mletormd5231
    @mletormd5231 2 года назад +31

    LGR on a Friday is sublime.

  • @jcolinjohnson
    @jcolinjohnson 2 года назад +9

    Must print a report on Dot Matrix 😎👌

  • @mizu_the_floatzel
    @mizu_the_floatzel 2 года назад +18

    When LGR uses a weather reader from the '90s to do a weather experiment perfect explanation with the scene from back to the future with doc Brown xD

  • @helldog3105
    @helldog3105 2 года назад +7

    Man I wish we had known about this back in the '90's. My dad would have really benefitted from one of these. He was always monitoring the weather for fishing and hunting and planting the garden. Any sort of way of tracking all of the meteorological information would have been a boon. It's amazing that no matter how much I learn about technology, new and old, there is still so much that was created that I have not seen nor that I know anything about. Fascinating gear.

  • @JakeHancke
    @JakeHancke 2 года назад +15

    Oh man, we had this at our Junior School in the UK, possibly a Windows 95 or '98 version as a couple of the graphs are slightly different from memory? The Head was obsessed with technology, and it must have been in '98 that he had this set up with an always on computer in the corridor not long after I started there. I remember he had this excuse for environmental education, but all we ever really had interest in or understood at that age was the wind direction. In reality I think he just wanted to show off and introduce all of us to this fancy new technology, as he knew how important it would be by the time we were older. It was supposed to be linked to the school website to view externally but I don't think he ever got that working. I'm assuming it just sat there running until the building was knocked down in 2010.
    I still wonder thinking back how much school funding he spent on this stuff, he had one of the first Windows Mobile devices, this laptop where the back of the screen was removable to use on an OHP, a box full of high end personal organiser type things and the entire school was fitted with interactive whiteboards by '02. He always openly went to computer expos on the job as well, but would bring back whatever free stuff he could find for everyone in his Computer Club

    • @aljwham
      @aljwham 2 года назад +1

      interactive whiteboards new tech in 2002

    • @parlinmains
      @parlinmains 2 года назад

      Cool principal.

  • @o0Donuts0o
    @o0Donuts0o 2 года назад +5

    Little did Crowded House know, that in the 2020s, everywhere you go, you could always take the weather with you.

    • @DrAnGeber
      @DrAnGeber 2 года назад

      Underrated comment..

  • @manualdidact
    @manualdidact 2 года назад +6

    This takes me back! In the mid 1990s I worked with a more commercially packaged variant of these Davis sensors, including a mounting setup that would hold all the devices on a single pole. The temperature/humidity sensor was that exact one, but in a stevenson screen assembly (stack of white plastic louvered plates). I wrote custom software to display the data on a crawl at the bottom of the screen on a television channel we ran in several cable TV markets in Texas and elsewhere. The rain and wind instruments were (I think) exactly what you have there.
    What's also interesting is the place I work now (an observatory) has one of these same old weather stations still set up on one of the buildings here, not sure to what extent it's still in use.

    • @parlinmains
      @parlinmains 2 года назад

      Was that crawl similar to the one on CNN's New Day?

  • @Weissman111
    @Weissman111 2 года назад +68

    Been using an Oregon Scientific weather station for years (and it's wireless so no messing about with wires everywhere). The first one I had was a WM-918, then upgraded to the WMR-200. Not the most reliable thing I've had (the UV sensor failed twice), and it frequently loses connection with some of the sensors, but it's interesting.

    • @jean-francoiscaron5706
      @jean-francoiscaron5706 2 года назад +1

      I used an Oregon Scientific WMR module at the University of Houston to keep track of lab temperature & humidity, but yeah I didn't like it at all. The software was vague about what was happening and the build quality was pretty bad too. I would have rather used an Arduino with some sensors and a little python logging/graphing routine on a Linux PC.

  • @JoshWatts
    @JoshWatts 2 года назад +3

    I used to work for a company (early 00's) that resold these: As I recall, we had a value-add of coupling these with MaxStream serial extenders (now part of Digi) so your weather station could be anywhere that 900MHz could reach.
    Our boss loved playing with (and selling) all sorts of data-collection equipment: He also had a lightning-strike detector connected to a 386 via an EISA-bus card, and with a range of many miles, we'd watch as lightning storms rolled by or at us. :-)

  • @Uncleharkinian
    @Uncleharkinian 2 года назад +7

    7:17 this is exactly why I love my job in radio, outside with tech travelling to remote locations and servicing transmitters

  • @JW86SH
    @JW86SH 2 года назад +30

    I'd love to see a blerb where you got a hold to the DOS software and checked all this out in it. It'd also be really great if this company sent you some of the most up-to-date hardware or even previous gen hardware just to see if it still works with this older software on the wood grain 486. Even if they just did it on loan. I love seeing new hardware still working with old software.

    • @erikthered4929
      @erikthered4929 2 года назад +2

      I'll just say that the Windows 3.1 WeatherLink software is practically exactly the same as the current version of the WeatherLink software. Davis understands how to much good weather instruments, but they have no fucking clue what they are doing when it comes to software. To say it's outdated is an understatement and I'd expect more from such a reputable company as Davis. That said, it's still completely usable and has a fair bit of functionality. I would say there is a good chance all this stuff is backwards and forwards compatible with the newer software, seeing as it uses very basic COM/Serial functionality (even the modern USB adapters for their newer base-stations).

  • @md_vandenberg
    @md_vandenberg 2 года назад +19

    "Well I don't own a yacht..." I can see it now, Captain LGR aboard his majestic wood grain ship built by a long defunct company.

    • @Mrcaffinebean
      @Mrcaffinebean 2 года назад +1

      Old yatchs are cheap, as long as you don’t factor in repairs lol

  • @Chozo_Ghost
    @Chozo_Ghost 2 года назад +13

    I like how Clint was looking up the weather in Hell, Michigan at the beginning
    :P

    • @LGR
      @LGR  2 года назад +7

      Fart, Russia was a close second choice, but I went with Hell because of the temperature :P

    • @Chozo_Ghost
      @Chozo_Ghost 2 года назад

      @@LGR TIL there is a place in Russia called Fart! Having a helluva time trying to find info on it lol

    • @alt842
      @alt842 2 года назад +1

      Was F*cking Austria a third?

    • @Vostok7
      @Vostok7 2 года назад

      @@LGR nice.

  • @nnthayer
    @nnthayer 2 года назад +7

    Weather charts, and graphs feel so appropriate within a Windows 3.1 context. If you look at various weather websites, a lot of their data from government agencies and such has that same appearance. And National Weather Service bulletins were, until recently, still in all-caps like they came from a teletype. Weather = old-school but durn reliable tech.

  • @jeepguy95
    @jeepguy95 2 года назад +3

    It's amazing how Davis is still in business today, with the same logo, and even more advanced, smart-connected weather stations... it just really goes to show just how successful of a company they really are.

  • @user-sj3fp2xq2m
    @user-sj3fp2xq2m 2 года назад +3

    This channel is such an amazing archive of vintage tech, it's like a public good at this point.

  • @GuitarAudiologist
    @GuitarAudiologist 2 года назад +7

    Never had one, but I remember seeing them in stores. It was nice to finally see one in action after all these years.

  • @MexicanHatBoy
    @MexicanHatBoy 2 года назад +40

    "The more I saw, the more I wanted" - Clint successfully applying for a data science job

  • @lordgrendell
    @lordgrendell 2 года назад +2

    I always love your enthusiasm. Thanks for another great video!

  • @TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs
    @TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs 2 года назад +29

    2:32 I could imagine this being great for something like a second home by a boating lake.
    Or maybe for GA finding your local airfield weather info for small farm strips

    • @randomname4522
      @randomname4522 2 года назад +3

      im thinking about putting one of these at my local ga strip where we don't have atis or awos

    • @randomname4522
      @randomname4522 2 года назад +3

      and just leaving a computer and monitor for anyone that is debating on going up

    • @xm-5178
      @xm-5178 2 года назад +2

      Haigs, why the fudge are you here of all places. I'm a turbo nerd myself but I wasn't expecting you

  • @moonverine
    @moonverine 2 года назад +10

    Me: not paying attention to the video
    LGR: *B I R D D U M P S*
    Me: hol' up

  • @ianmiller6040
    @ianmiller6040 2 года назад +1

    I loved the "oh, the humidity" casually slipped in. Nice obscure reference.

  • @72Saeth
    @72Saeth 2 года назад +7

    Tipping bucket ran gauge huh! That's legitimately fancy.

  • @DissociatedWomenIncorporated
    @DissociatedWomenIncorporated 2 года назад +17

    I absolutely love that you’re reviewing hardware where one of the design flaws is “birds think it’s a toilet” 😂

  • @rachel_sj
    @rachel_sj 2 года назад +6

    Gotta watch this again after watching the easily release on Patreon. As someone who’s a UX Designer who’s always been into weather science, data visualization, stats and old 80s/90s UIs, this episode is hitting all the Nerd buttons for me and is a new fave! Keep up the great work!!

  • @sysandy2
    @sysandy2 2 года назад +4

    Thanks for this video. I have been a weather enthusiast for years and presently own a David Vantage Pro II with 24hr Fan Aspirated Radiation Shield. I have owned the unit for a little over 6 years and it has been rock solid. I have this all connected to a rpi running weather software called weewx which works great. Your temperature was probably way high because you mounted the temperature sensor on the roof which is actually not recommended. The daytime heating, even on cloudy days radiates off the the roof shingles thereby artificially inflating the temperature. As you mentioned your sensor did not come with a radiation shield which exacerbated the problem. Davis instruments has come a long with, in my personal opinion and have improved the accuracy of these sensors over the past 30 years since your model was released. While I highly recommend the Davis Vantage Pro II if your budget is tight you might also want to look at the Davis Vantage Vue which is also a quality product.

    • @jarede3724
      @jarede3724 2 года назад +1

      Hello fellow WeeWx (and VP2) enthusiast! I also left a comment mentioning WeeWx, so hopefully Clint goes down that route because I think he'd have a ton of fun customizing the weather skins.

  • @dreadnought757
    @dreadnought757 2 года назад +1

    We had a class in middle school called Technology for Life, in which we explored using computers and tech in various careers. There was a weather/meteorology station that had one of these. I always wanted to play around with it but it was always the first to fill up when people picked their stations. This was in the early 2000s btw.

  • @r3wcifer
    @r3wcifer 2 года назад +40

    I would've loved this as a kid, of course these days its way easier to have a wealth of meteorological data pipe-lined into software. Now I use GRLevel3, extremely customizable & a very interesting program...even if you're only slightly keen on weather. I can hover over any storm cell and see it's calculated vertical growth, liquid density, CAPE and shear, lightning flash rates. Particularly useful if you're the type that craves experiencing severe weather in-person 🤣

  • @james_gemma
    @james_gemma 2 года назад +6

    I have a weather station also. Seeing your old school weather data along with mine is global warming my heart.

  • @jeffrub1
    @jeffrub1 2 года назад +10

    It's cool that the company is still in business!

    • @erikthered4929
      @erikthered4929 2 года назад +3

      Davis makes pretty reputable instruments and their higher-end, more scientific-level instruments are quite expensive, durable, and highly regarded. Their software remains terrible to this day (but you can use third-party software for data logging and more), but when it comes to hardware Davis are one of the most respected manufacturers of weather instrumentation out there. Davis instruments are widely seen used in the marine and farming industries as they are about as accurate as you can get before upgrading to multi-thousand dollar instruments made more for actual research and more advanced data logging.

  • @jasper_saberwolf
    @jasper_saberwolf 2 года назад +4

    This is so cool, my family had a Davis weather station when I was a kid, a digital receiver with a decent LCD display that sat on the kitchen counter and received data from the unit we mounted on our shed roof. The anemometer and rain meter are still there! I remember it had text that said “it’s raining cats and dogs” when it rained hard.

    • @Dj0287
      @Dj0287 2 года назад +2

      That was the vantage pro (or vantage pro 2) and it still says that when it rains hard!!

  • @fensoxx
    @fensoxx 2 года назад +5

    My god I didn’t realize how much I love dawn of the internet gadgetry. The mid to late nineties is a goldmine.

  • @packerfan10
    @packerfan10 2 года назад +6

    I love everything weather related. I remember my dad bought the software but we didn't have the weather station part of it as a kid. It made for a sad Christmas when he returned it cause the software was useless.

    • @tl1024
      @tl1024 2 года назад +2

      Now that's a sad story, there was no way he was dropping another $450.

  • @corkbulb2895
    @corkbulb2895 Год назад +1

    You would have loved my dad in the 90's. He had a whole HAM radio tower setup in the backyard. Multiple sized towers with different wavelength antennas. I used to go outside with him and watch him work on the tower when I was a kid. It was a big tower too! 22 feet retracted and it extended up to 82 feet! 105 feet with the antennas installed! Thing was actually kinda scary when cranked all the way up. I always thought that thing was the coolest.

  • @freedom4dollars
    @freedom4dollars 5 месяцев назад

    When I was a kid I was fascinated by my father's analog, wooden version of this with three old-school gauges (thermometer, barometer, hygrometer). Watching the barometer drop was one of the most exciting things when I was seven years old. Never occurred to me when I was computing back in the early 90s that there was a digital version. Nice.

  • @CFDEngCo3
    @CFDEngCo3 2 года назад +3

    Wow, 12 year old me would've absolutely LOVED this!

  • @jmalmsten
    @jmalmsten 2 года назад +5

    Having seen talks by Matt Parker, I have heard the deeply saddening reports that there are people put there who don't do spreadsheets recreationally.
    Those sad individuals have my deepest condolences.

  • @tylerc161
    @tylerc161 2 года назад +2

    PERFECT PERFECT time to throw in that back to the future reference. Love it man!

  • @MortusArtis
    @MortusArtis 2 года назад +1

    My Dad had one of these setup in our house around 1992 with a DOS 6.0 286 system, cool to see again!

    • @LGR
      @LGR  2 года назад +1

      That's awesome!

  • @jorgepais2876
    @jorgepais2876 2 года назад +3

    I love the Windows 3.1 shell. It is, at the same time, so plain simple and intuitive. I would wish we could have a similar shell for today's operating systems...

  • @HarryHasAbigWilly
    @HarryHasAbigWilly 2 года назад +8

    Clint this is mint!

  • @matthewroll3947
    @matthewroll3947 2 года назад +2

    I've watched your channel for a long time and I'm also a storm chaser and have no idea how happy and how much I nerded out over this video thank you!

  • @rich_edwards79
    @rich_edwards79 2 года назад +1

    With a price tag like that I'll bet a lot of those were sold to schools. My middle school here in the UK had an earlier (DOS-based) iteration of it in the geography room, would have been late 1991 or early 1992. As a 12yo it fascinated me; I remember it being a particularly cold winter with night-time lows into negative double figures and it was cool to look at the graphs and see just how low the temperature had dropped overnight (and also to check temp and wind speed / chill prior to PE lessons, which as a typical nerd I hated, lol). It was connected up to a dot matrix printer that could reel off reports too. Very cool setup and now I want one to connect up to my old 486 Travelmate laptop!

  • @jasonwhitler4167
    @jasonwhitler4167 2 года назад +4

    I just figured out what to get my dad for his birthday. Thanks LGR!

  • @srtgrayfrance
    @srtgrayfrance 2 года назад +3

    We have a Pro2 setup at my school (I'm the Physics teacher). Someone further up the valley has an APRS link, so he shares weather via amateur radio.

    • @tl1024
      @tl1024 2 года назад

      Yes! That's cool!

  • @Dj0287
    @Dj0287 2 года назад +2

    I love Davis weather stations!!! I had the exact same one from 1996-2002 (didn't have the weatherlink) then I got the first version of the vantage pro in 2002-2005 (Hurricane Katrina destroyed that one) and got the vantage pro 2 in 2006 (got the weatherlink in 2007) and have been upgrading sensors every so often when they start to lose accuracy after so many years. And trust me if the temperature/humidity sensor is in the radiation shield, and has air movement the temp is much much more accurate. I think yours was just in an area where there was no air movement, and close to the hot roof so the radiant heat and stagnant air made your temps much higher than they were.

    • @erikthered4929
      @erikthered4929 2 года назад

      Agreed about that temperature sensor. It is possible it went out of calibration in the time that was in the box, but unlikely. For ASOS stations the traditional enclosure for temperature and humidity sensors is a white, wooden-slatted box that allows plenty of airflow and heat/sun shielding while keeping it mounted in an open area where air can flow through it so it doesn't turn into an oven essentially. This is mostly phased out with more advanced sensors for those stations, although moreso in more-funded airport stations which have the capability of a installing a completely modern system. If you're more curious there's a lot of information to be found on Google from NOAA/NWS/FAA websites and the like about the history and types of state-of-the-art sensors currently used.

  • @Dalton4D
    @Dalton4D 2 года назад +2

    cant wait to get a hold of one of these intact for my post apocalypse base!

  • @jdatlas4668
    @jdatlas4668 2 года назад +17

    “ but with retro PC“ may be one of my favorite subjects on this channel. This falls into a similar niche as controlling your home with X10 using an IBM PC.

    • @Cecilbags
      @Cecilbags 2 года назад

      funny, I really liked that episode too.

  • @pleaseuseOdysee
    @pleaseuseOdysee 2 года назад +27

    Davis didn't build weather stations, they invented the bird toilet

  • @x3mality160486
    @x3mality160486 2 года назад

    Always waiting for your tech-charming videos. Thanks!

  • @LunaGray97
    @LunaGray97 2 года назад

    Your videos always make my day better because your voice is so relaxing and the videos in general are just very calming

  • @VinnyBagOfChips
    @VinnyBagOfChips 2 года назад +3

    dude, you totally should set up the modern weather station id love to see it. this was freaking cool too tho!

  • @DannyLunden
    @DannyLunden 2 года назад +4

    Mannnnnnn I just had to drop in to say that your videos are great. It’s obvious how much time and care you put into the framing of the shots, and your script. Please keep it up, and thank you for the content!

  • @jeremyusbourne6289
    @jeremyusbourne6289 2 года назад

    Love you channel and videos Clint have done for so many years. Love this one I always look forward to your new videos. Keep up the great work fella 🎮

  • @kakarotmassacre0153
    @kakarotmassacre0153 2 года назад

    This is by far my favorite RUclips channel idk why but been a fan for years! Thank you

  • @zarrendragon
    @zarrendragon 2 года назад +3

    I've had one of their Vantage Vue models for several years now. Didn't get the add-on to allow connections to PC, though. They were charging quite a premium for what reviewers were saying was software 'stuck in the 90s' and the device still connected by 9 pin serial. I've gotten used to just typing the mins and maxes each night into a spreadsheet.

  • @onooooooooooo
    @onooooooooooo 2 года назад +7

    The nerd in me wants to see you combine this and other vintage home automation systems as a permanent install. What is the ultimate 90's/early 00's home automation/monitoring/security setup?

    • @presidentkiller
      @presidentkiller 2 года назад

      He has all the gear to do it, so I guess he's just lazy... lol

  • @seamarie3111
    @seamarie3111 2 года назад

    This seems like the sort of set-up my grandpa might have had in the 90s. He was a civil engineer before he retired. My parents mentioned that his hobby room on the bottom floor of his house actually had a bunch of weather charts and things, which I of course never noticed, (mostly because my eyesight sucks, and I never looked). I do remember, however, that he had at least two computers down there too. I never looked at Grandpa's computers close-up, but it wouldn't surprise me if he had a system like this. Grandpa was awesome, and I wish he hadn't died when I was still in school, so I could get to know him more as an adult. I like to think I get the somewhat sciency part of my brain from him.

  • @SoItGoes1985
    @SoItGoes1985 2 года назад +1

    I’ve had a self contained wireless Davis weather station for years now. You’ll find yourself checking the display/console all the time. The Dew Point is the biggest bearer of bad or good news.

  • @Jack-yt8ml
    @Jack-yt8ml 2 года назад +33

    Didn't know I ever wanted a personal weather station until now. But now I do. Anyone have recommendations on any that are really good? Preferably with being able to share data online or to a smartphone?

    • @romajimamulo
      @romajimamulo 2 года назад +2

      Look around at the rest of the comments, seems like they have experience with those.

    • @blodyholy_
      @blodyholy_ 2 года назад +4

      As I mentioned above, I have a Davis Pro2. The Davis Vantage Vue is a good entry level station to a casual observer of outside weather.

    • @Dj0287
      @Dj0287 2 года назад +3

      I agree with Matt's comment you can't go wrong with the Davis Vantage Pro 2 or Vantage Vue. The pro 2 can be pricey but the accuracy and reliability is worth every penny. Also to get it online you would want to get the weatherlink software or weatherlink live.

  • @richpickings2845
    @richpickings2845 2 года назад +4

    That's some North Carolina weather right there. Who else is covering such wacky iterations of these devices from the late 90's, why LGR of course !!

  • @viktorkontra8684
    @viktorkontra8684 2 года назад +1

    You know you're getting old when your game review channel reviews weather forecast devices

  • @user-me6td1up1m
    @user-me6td1up1m 10 месяцев назад +1

    I first saw that scene from Back to the Future when I was about 8 years old. Took me another 20 years or so to realise what Doc was looking for in his wallet to find his “permit” for his “experiment”.

  • @Obscusion2
    @Obscusion2 2 года назад +46

    Clint really should have tried contacting Davis, if only to ask "Hey, can I use your modern-day weather tech on my old Windows 3.1 desktop computer? They ARE cross-compatible, right?".

  • @PyroX792
    @PyroX792 2 года назад +4

    Environmental monitoring tech IS fun!

  • @seshpenguin
    @seshpenguin 2 года назад

    Aww man this thing is right up my alley.. excited for this video!

  • @Ditto9003
    @Ditto9003 2 года назад

    Another great LGR production!! I love your content!! Keep it up!! Thank you!! 😎👍👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @DaneeBound
    @DaneeBound 2 года назад +10

    Hee-Ho, Weather.

  • @harryragland7840
    @harryragland7840 2 года назад +7

    "Everyone talks about the weather, but nobody does anything about it." Mark Twain
    "If you don't like the weather in Missouri, just wait a minute" Mark Twain

    • @TonyisToking
      @TonyisToking 2 года назад

      Wow, never knew he was so obsessed with weather.

    • @Mrcaffinebean
      @Mrcaffinebean 2 года назад

      Classic Mark Twain quote! Although, now days countries are modifying the weather. Check out the cloud seeding China is doing.

  • @lrrowley
    @lrrowley 2 года назад +2

    I've been wanting to get a home weather station ever since I discovered Weather Underground. The weather in my area is always reported from the airport like 20 miles away. I've always thought that having your own hyper local weather report would be so cool!

  • @Atary77
    @Atary77 2 года назад +2

    I have to say, the lengths you went through to get footage of all this. Bravo my man. This video is great being able to see all this stuff in action and how it worked!

    • @LGR
      @LGR  2 года назад

      Thank you!

  • @MrClawt
    @MrClawt 2 года назад +7

    There is something oddly satisfying about collecting your own weather data.

    • @Dj0287
      @Dj0287 2 года назад +1

      Yes!!! I've been doing it since May of 1995 and still doing it to this day 26+ years later!!

    • @Religious_man
      @Religious_man 2 года назад

      I agree, but did these weather instruments also record sunrise/sunset times and moon phases, etc?

    • @Dj0287
      @Dj0287 2 года назад

      @@Religious_man yes

    • @Religious_man
      @Religious_man 2 года назад

      @@Dj0287 Super!! How is that even possible?

    • @Dj0287
      @Dj0287 2 года назад

      @@Religious_man it doesn't "record" them but it shows the sunrise/sunset times and the moon phases. You put in your latitude and longitude when you're setting up the station. Do you have a Facebook? I can send you a screenshot

  • @andrewkarlsson8621
    @andrewkarlsson8621 2 года назад +3

    LGR. The best retro channel on RUclips!

  • @coreygraft799
    @coreygraft799 13 дней назад

    As a weather station man myself, I truly enjoyed seeing you geek out during the installation process. Tried to find one of these old Davis units for sale, but sadly only base stations are common.

  • @DaveNarn
    @DaveNarn 2 года назад +2

    "Haven't you always wanted a weather station?"
    Yes by George!
    I bought a Oregon Scientific weather station from Radio Shack 12 years ago and still use it.
    Wireless, but all battery powered - no solar.
    The bucket rain gauge was the first to fail, then the outdoor temp sensor, everything else works