What a treat to see and hear this wonderful live video from 1976 with my step mother Dolores's brother Jim Glover singing live. This song has great lyrics that all Americans should listen to....Peace!
As a Phil Ochs' afficiando, I appreciate this duo. I never missed a Phil Ochs' concert near NYC in the 60's and 70's. My brother has told me that his friend Jim Glover taught Phil to play guitar. I am in awe.
My girlfriend and I seldom missed a set when Jim and Jean were in town at LaCave in Cleveland. They were our teenage idols. I literally wore out their Changes vinyl and paid a high price for a new copy in 2005. Finding this video on RUclips has made my day.
I saw Jim & Jean perform a few times at the Vanguard Coffee House in Kansas City in the 1960s, and bought a copy of their album "Changes" directly from Jean. I also got to know Phil while living in L.A. during 1967-68.
@@JimGlover1 wow you are the famous Jim Glover himself? my dream team of underappreciated folk artists: starting with Jim and Jean: Kate Wolf, Karen Dalton, Fred Neil, Jackson C. Frank, Richard and Mimi Farina, Tim Hardin, Dave Van Ronk, David Blue, Derroll Adams and Partrick Sky. I wore out the Changes album and still enjo listening to"Blackfly"?.
stunned to see this video of Jim and Jean .. I had seen Phil Ochs perform a few times in the Village and I think the last time was at a folk festival in Canada.... I so admired the Jim Glover and Jean Ray versions of Phil Ochs songs.. Jean Ray died in 2007, and may have been the inspiration behind Neil Young's "Cinnamon Girl".. i enjoyed the "Ringing of Revolution" done by both as well. Ochs lived with Jim and Jean in 1962 in the Village..
Yes to Jean's connection to Neil Young's "Cinnamon Girl," and also "Cowgirl in the Sand," and he and his band, Buffalo Springfield's arrest was the inspiration for Jean's "Topanga Canyon," on _People World_.
Jim Glover seemed to be pulling passive-aggressive verse-beginnings performed here, cutting off Jean's entrances. They stopped just before Jean's one solo line. Why didn't they sing the whole song, it was one of Phil Ochs' finest? Hmmm. Jean was a lovely person I knew in SF around 1975. I am saddened to know that she is no longer alive.
@@jillmadigan9841 @Jill Madigan Jean Ray's mother was private secretary for Art Linkletter for over a decade which explains why Jim and Jean ended up performing Blackfly together on the Linkletter show! another strange connection to Phil Ochs is that Genie the Tailor (his first cousin) ended up dead in the famous band concert crash involving Fairport Convention in 1969 also taking the life of drummer Martin Lamble.. Genie was the then girlfriend of Richard Thompson)
BRilliant to find this. Here in the UK I found Jim and Jean's Changes album quite by chance back in the 60s. So great to see them live! Thanks for posting this.
I didn't even know that the audio was on RUclips, and I'd thought I'd searched for the rest of the memorial concert, apart from a few performances, like Melanie's, that I had found, I've wanted to see (and hear) it for some years. Thanks so much! It was Jim & Jean that brought me back to Ochs after I initially wasn't that impressed with the LPs that I'd borrowed from the public library (back when I was in high school). But in contrast, I'd ended up special ordering my own copy of Jim & Jean's _Changes_ after borrowing that.
Neil Young wrote 'Cinnamon Girl' about Jean Ray. Neil says he had a crush on her at the time, but she was still married to Jim, so he kept the lyrics vague.
I have always loved "Cinnamon Girl" and "Cowgirl in the Sand" for the imagery they painted in my mind of the woman that inspired in those songs. And Jean Ray is just the sort of woman l imagined. I know why Neil felt attracted. To my mind she is very beautiful. I lament she died in 2007.
Too bad his Nephew- RFK Jr. didn't win wheh he sought to become President of the United States. He would have been a truly great Pesident. Bu the powers that be really ganged up on him to make sure RFK Jr. didn't win or couldnt' win.
A collision of metaphors. Is there some meaning, lots of meanings, or like a Dalí painting, no meaning? Kudos to those including Jim and Jean for memorizing these lyrics.
Think about the title of the song. I'd suggest reading the lyrics as well. Phil Ochs in his Vancouver performance in his intro to this song says "this song is about the mystical process that took the lives of MLK, JFK, and RFK
I coming back to this Video after about 6 MOnth. I defintely appreciate it more. Both singers have great Voices, but I still think that it would have been better with more Instrumentation
@@HoldenNY22 ruclips.net/video/HK6Tri2HjVw/видео.html _Changes_ was their second LP, more folk-rock than the first record. There were a couple Ochs songs on the first, three on this one (_Changes_) and a couple more on the 3rd LP, _People World_, which was poppier/rockier than this one. They almost had a hit single with the title song, which scraped into the Hot 100, but was a top ten hit in a few markets, like LA and Washington, DC. There are a couple more Ochs covers on another LP of a program of different 60s-era "folk" artists, and Jim Glover covered a couple more on some of his recordings, after he and Jean had broken up their act and marriage.
He has a nice Voice, but I think the song is better with a full instrumental version- more Musical Instruments. I'm a Rock and Roll Kid ( a Kid young in Heart) and I like Folk and Folk Rock. But I think the song is Operatic in its Scope and needs full instruments for its best expression.
Jim & Jean's version was the first to be released, on their album, _Changes_, and for many it was THE version for a while, because even many Phil Ochs fans were put off by his peculiar arrangement on _Pleasures of the Harbor_. Eventually, live versions by Phil with just his guitar made those fans happier. I think his recorded version is really . . . interesting. And I don't necessarily mean that in a bad way, but it's not as easily assimilated or understood as this version. It takes a real investment in attention and thought. But if you don't know his version (I'm guessing that you do, from your remark), it might be just the thing for you. It's not very rock and roll, however.
IN retrospect- three years later- Imay have been more thinking about Power and the Glory. I think the full instrumental version is much better than just a simple guitar Version. I think Power and the Glory is really a Power Ballad. Crucifixion is also a great song. Very relevant with Bobby Kennedy Jr. now running for President as an Independent. The DNC, The Establishment and many others are really trying to crucify him.
They say the Song isn't so much about the Crucifixtion of Jesus, but about the Death - the Assassination of another great Hero- John F. Kennedy. And to paraphrase that Comedian who has been hosting The Goden Globes last few years- It wasn't a lone Gunman who killed JFK>
![Jim & Jean -[5]- Crucifixion](/img/1.gif)
What a treat to see and hear this wonderful live video from 1976 with my step mother Dolores's brother Jim Glover singing live. This song has great lyrics that all Americans should listen to....Peace!
crazy world. i was a neighbor of jean ray and spent alot of time with her
i have never heard of these two but they are brilliant and i love it.
Not just Americans ☝️😊
As a Phil Ochs' afficiando, I appreciate this duo. I never missed a Phil Ochs' concert near NYC in the 60's and 70's. My brother has told me that his friend Jim Glover taught Phil to play guitar. I am in awe.
Wonderful rendition
My girlfriend and I seldom missed a set when Jim and Jean were in town at LaCave in Cleveland. They were our teenage idols. I literally wore out their Changes vinyl and paid a high price for a new copy in 2005. Finding this video on RUclips has made my day.
1st time to hear them. Her voice is unique..lilting, ethereal. Its easy to see why Young fell for her.
I saw Jim & Jean perform a few times at the Vanguard Coffee House in Kansas City in the 1960s, and bought a copy of their album "Changes" directly from Jean. I also got to know Phil while living in L.A. during 1967-68.
Thanks for the memories, I forgot about the Vanguard in KC!
@@JimGlover1 wow you are the famous Jim Glover himself? my dream team of underappreciated folk artists: starting with Jim and Jean: Kate Wolf, Karen Dalton, Fred Neil, Jackson C. Frank, Richard and Mimi Farina, Tim Hardin, Dave Van Ronk, David Blue, Derroll Adams and Partrick Sky. I wore out the Changes album and still enjo listening to"Blackfly"?.
Lovely song and so true today! Nothing changes really does it? The rebel
Phil’s masterpiece. Along with the rest of Pleasures of the Harbor.
When In Rome ⚡️
stunned to see this video of Jim and Jean .. I had seen Phil Ochs perform a few times in the Village and I think the last time was at a folk festival in Canada.... I so admired the Jim Glover and Jean Ray versions of Phil Ochs songs.. Jean Ray died in 2007, and may have been the inspiration behind Neil Young's "Cinnamon Girl".. i enjoyed the "Ringing of Revolution" done by both as well. Ochs lived with Jim and Jean in 1962 in the Village..
Yes to Jean's connection to Neil Young's "Cinnamon Girl," and also "Cowgirl in the Sand," and he and his band, Buffalo Springfield's arrest was the inspiration for Jean's "Topanga Canyon," on _People World_.
Jim Glover seemed to be pulling passive-aggressive verse-beginnings performed here, cutting off Jean's entrances. They stopped just before Jean's one solo line. Why didn't they sing the whole song, it was one of Phil Ochs' finest? Hmmm. Jean was a lovely person I knew in SF around 1975. I am saddened to know that she is no longer alive.
@@jillmadigan9841 @Jill Madigan Jean Ray's mother was private secretary for Art Linkletter for over a decade which explains why Jim and Jean ended up performing Blackfly together on the Linkletter show! another strange connection to Phil Ochs is that Genie the Tailor (his first cousin) ended up dead in the famous band concert crash involving Fairport Convention in 1969 also taking the life of drummer Martin Lamble.. Genie was the then girlfriend of Richard Thompson)
An astounding performance.
BRilliant to find this. Here in the UK I found Jim and Jean's Changes album quite by chance back in the 60s. So great to see them live! Thanks for posting this.
I didn't even know that the audio was on RUclips, and I'd thought I'd searched for the rest of the memorial concert, apart from a few performances, like Melanie's, that I had found, I've wanted to see (and hear) it for some years. Thanks so much! It was Jim & Jean that brought me back to Ochs after I initially wasn't that impressed with the LPs that I'd borrowed from the public library (back when I was in high school). But in contrast, I'd ended up special ordering my own copy of Jim & Jean's _Changes_ after borrowing that.
I tried to get tickets for the concert it was sold out it was on TV on NET [Tim Hardin did Pleasures of the Harbor [].
Totally Awesome performance!
Thank so much for this.
Neil Young wrote 'Cinnamon Girl' about Jean Ray. Neil says he had a crush on her at the time, but she was still married to Jim, so he kept the lyrics vague.
fact. jean ray personally confirmed this to me. i was her neighbor in bondad colorado
I have always loved "Cinnamon Girl" and "Cowgirl in the Sand" for the imagery they painted in my mind of the woman that inspired in those songs.
And Jean Ray is just the sort of woman l imagined. I know why Neil felt attracted. To my mind she is very beautiful. I lament she died in 2007.
Neil was married, at the time, as well...
Thanks for posting this & the link
Tears and heartache. Wonderful and terrifying. Historical and prophetic. Do you want a picture of the the pain?
Ochs composed this song as a tribute to JFK. I listen to this song and pray for Joe.
Pray for Joe?
MLK, JFK, and RFK and people like them who stand up and are taking from us too soon.
Too bad his Nephew- RFK Jr. didn't win wheh he sought to become President of the United States. He would have been a truly great Pesident. Bu the powers that be really ganged up on him to make sure RFK Jr. didn't win or couldnt' win.
A collision of metaphors. Is there some meaning, lots of meanings, or like a Dalí painting, no meaning? Kudos to those including Jim and Jean for memorizing these lyrics.
Think about the title of the song. I'd suggest reading the lyrics as well. Phil Ochs in his Vancouver performance in his intro to this song says "this song is about the mystical process that took the lives of MLK, JFK, and RFK
I coming back to this Video after about 6 MOnth. I defintely appreciate it more. Both singers have great Voices, but I still think that it would have been better with more Instrumentation
I hope you listen to their recorded version on _Changes_!
@@davidlenander - Changes is their Album I assume. Is that available on RUclips? I am being the Music Tech about Ipod or ordering songs on Line.
@@HoldenNY22 ruclips.net/video/HK6Tri2HjVw/видео.html _Changes_ was their second LP, more folk-rock than the first record. There were a couple Ochs songs on the first, three on this one (_Changes_) and a couple more on the 3rd LP, _People World_, which was poppier/rockier than this one. They almost had a hit single with the title song, which scraped into the Hot 100, but was a top ten hit in a few markets, like LA and Washington, DC. There are a couple more Ochs covers on another LP of a program of different 60s-era "folk" artists, and Jim Glover covered a couple more on some of his recordings, after he and Jean had broken up their act and marriage.
Jim and Jean were a big part of " inside llewyn davis ".....I'll bet you didn't know that !!
i introduced Jim to David Bazinet
Who?
a cinnamon girl, with a conscience, or how else could she have been a friend of Phil?
He has a nice Voice, but I think the song is better with a full instrumental version- more Musical Instruments. I'm a Rock and Roll Kid ( a Kid young in Heart) and I like Folk and Folk Rock. But I think the song is Operatic in its Scope and needs full instruments for its best expression.
Sounds fine with a guitar.
More Cowbell😂
Jim & Jean's version was the first to be released, on their album, _Changes_, and for many it was THE version for a while, because even many Phil Ochs fans were put off by his peculiar arrangement on _Pleasures of the Harbor_. Eventually, live versions by Phil with just his guitar made those fans happier. I think his recorded version is really . . . interesting. And I don't necessarily mean that in a bad way, but it's not as easily assimilated or understood as this version. It takes a real investment in attention and thought. But if you don't know his version (I'm guessing that you do, from your remark), it might be just the thing for you. It's not very rock and roll, however.
IN retrospect- three years later- Imay have been more thinking about Power and the Glory. I think the full instrumental version is much better than just a simple guitar Version. I think Power and the Glory is really a Power Ballad. Crucifixion is also a great song. Very relevant with Bobby Kennedy Jr. now running for President as an Independent. The DNC, The Establishment and many others are really trying to crucify him.
They say the Song isn't so much about the Crucifixtion of Jesus, but about the Death - the Assassination of another great Hero- John F. Kennedy. And to paraphrase that Comedian who has been hosting The Goden Globes last few years- It wasn't a lone Gunman who killed JFK>
Sounds like a crappy recording.