MOTO GUZZI V85TT - BROKEN - NEED YOUR THOUGHTS

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  • Опубликовано: 17 янв 2025

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  • @jshanni2066
    @jshanni2066 8 месяцев назад +6

    Ive seen a few reports of difficult cold starts progressing to lack of throttle response and unwilling to rev and from memory a few have been traced to a problem wirh the crank angle sensor, which sits in behind the front alternator cover. The clearance on the sensor gradually goes out of tolerance which means the ecu cant accurately calculate engine timing , so it wont start / idle properly. Engine heats up, things expand and the sensor starts working for a while. But eventually, it craps out.
    Ive no idea if thats what is happening with yours but the symptoms sound familiar.

    • @trevorkarrett3041
      @trevorkarrett3041 8 месяцев назад

      Yep, I've heard the same thing. Would recommend doing some research on this.

  • @Messiahwalter
    @Messiahwalter 7 месяцев назад +4

    I had a similar problem on my Stelvio 1200 … in my case the problem were the sparks plugs…. I used double electrodes plugs and all good ! Good luck to you and enjoy your trip.

  • @mysterybiker1717
    @mysterybiker1717 8 месяцев назад +4

    Have you tried switching back to stock map? I think the lambda sensor is disabled with the new map, therefore reinstating this gives closed loop feedback to the ecu and it will see its running very lean (probably due to oil temp sensor) and may richen mixture. Worth a try. Not a permanent fix but may let you tour.

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад +1

      Last night I returned the bike to stock. Old catalytic converter and standard map. It made it worse as now the throttle no longer does anything and the bike sits at 2100 rpm all the time...

  • @mrsilbo6499
    @mrsilbo6499 8 месяцев назад +5

    Good luck Bucky. I've had a couple of Guzzis & currently run a Griso 1200SE. There's a few people in this thread that clearly hv never owned an Italian bike & don't understand that they're all the unfinished article & require remapping & a pipe etc to make them run properly. Your mods seem entirely appropriate to me & the suggestions from those who do know what they're talking about are likely correct that it's a sensor (but which one?) that's put the bike into limp mode. I recommend you go onto the MG forums & ask them what the error code means. You'll get a ton of great advice back, no negativity & you might even turn up more local expertise!
    PS - if you Google the PO255 error code, it points to a TPS failure.

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад +3

      Having had 3x ducati in my lifetime of riding I'm well used with the Italian way 🤣 this is my 1st Gootsi, I love the bike. It's just awkward now we don't have a MG dealer in our country... The bike runs superbly with the mods. It runs cooler in summer and gives no knocking or pinking. The few extra bhp are also nice. As I take it off road a lot the mods give it far superior smooth throttle in lower rpm. For easier negotiating of the terrain.. I have the bike booked in with a local bike mechanic who isn't sure if he can read Guzzi. But if he can pinpoint the issue I will be glad.. One person on FB has the exact same code as I do. His bike is actually in a dealer RN waiting on a new throttle.. I hope this is also my issue.

    • @mrsilbo6499
      @mrsilbo6499 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@buckymoto1784 Fingers crossed!

  • @NakaNakaDerkaDerka
    @NakaNakaDerkaDerka 7 месяцев назад +1

    Check your ignition coils.

  • @stuartmoles843
    @stuartmoles843 8 месяцев назад +2

    Is there no Piaggio dealer in the South? There was one in Dublin? I think you may struggle to get a resolution if it’s been remapped etc as when it’s put on the Piaggio PADS system it will be out of spec. It’s going to be difficult finding a dealer who wants to actually do some diagnostics as whilst they are chasing your problems around they could be changing the oil in 4 bikes.

    • @tokaitelejohn5656
      @tokaitelejohn5656 6 месяцев назад

      Pretty sure Megabikes in Dublin are the main dealer in Ireland. Not such a long trip from Coleraine.

  • @TYPE1media
    @TYPE1media 8 месяцев назад +2

    I’d start by replacing the crank angle pickup sensor, it’s quite inexpensive and easy to do.. Griso had the same issue. It’s a magneti Marelli sensor, that should fix it

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks for the bit of advice 👍🏼

  • @memyselfandizz
    @memyselfandizz 3 месяца назад +1

    Exactly the same starting problem here.. V85TT. just without red alarms. Additionally i have problem with take off until its warmed up. I got a code P0115 on my OBD: Engine coolant temperature sensor 1 circuit.
    As you can find on web Guzzi have decades of bad (oil) sensors history. Some guys replaced it as much as four pieces in their ownership..
    Im waiting on my order delivery at the moment.
    Did you fix it? What was it exactly?
    Thx

    • @memyselfandizz
      @memyselfandizz 3 месяца назад +1

      I found the answer: Throttle potentiometer. Quite interesting..

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  3 месяца назад +1

      The Throttle Potentiometer was broken in the throttle. Which was why the throttle wasn't working. As for the bad starting issue, this must have ben moisture in a wiring harness or plug somewhere on the bike. £days into our Euro Trip which was 30+deg must have dried everything out which meant the bike starter perfectly every day. and now I have ben home for 6 weeks the bike still continues to run and start perfectly every time

  • @NabGer
    @NabGer 8 месяцев назад +2

    Have you pulled the spark plugs? May have gotten fouled if it was over fueling and causing the hard start at cold

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад +2

      Its not the plugs... They have been checked..All wiring plugs have ben taken apart and cleaned and oiled and put back together also. to eliminate corroded wiring

  • @MarkMonty-h3b
    @MarkMonty-h3b 7 месяцев назад +1

    Sorry to hear about your issue, have you tried putting the original map back on?

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  7 месяцев назад

      I put the standard exhaust on and loaded the original map, which made it worse.. 🤷‍♂️ The throttle now doesn't work at all..

    • @MarkMonty-h3b
      @MarkMonty-h3b 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@buckymoto1784 sounds like a part needs replacing or cleaning. As others have said it probably needs a main dealer with the PADS diagnostic kit to locate the issue. It's a nuisance but it's probably the quickest way to find a solution.

  • @mholbrook472
    @mholbrook472 7 месяцев назад +1

    Hi...I have both a V100S and a E4 V85. Both have shown urgent alarm service. For thr V85 this was a lambda sensor and it showed up as an error I could read with Guzzi Diag. The V100 though....a brand new bike....shows urgent alarm with no code. You are describing limp mode. Between me and the dealer we have diagnosed low cranking voltage so.....IMHO look at cranking video from cold and buy guzzi diag with a cable.....please let us know how you get on

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  7 месяцев назад

      Guzzidiag doesn't work with 2021 V85TT. (New ecu won't work.) the code I can see with upmap shows a throttle (c) sensor issue. This seems to point to a TPS reset is required.

  • @lambo2817
    @lambo2817 3 месяца назад +1

    What was the issue in the end? Fully fixed now?

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  3 месяца назад +1

      @@lambo2817 it was the Throttle potentiometer. I purchased a set of oem heated grips which fixed the issue. Bike running like a dream now.

  • @NabGer
    @NabGer 8 месяцев назад +1

    Have you tried disconnecting the battery?
    Disconnect it, turn the key on for a minute, key of, reconnect the battery and see what happens

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад +2

      Already tried this also... Thanks for commenting and giving ideas. I might not have tried something
      that someone might suggest

  • @TheDervMan
    @TheDervMan 8 месяцев назад +1

    Have you hooked up a code reader to see what errors are showing?

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад +1

      Yes that's the code I flashed up on the video.

  • @Tec2Nut
    @Tec2Nut 8 месяцев назад +1

    Location is the same reason butting me of a nordon 901

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад

      I am lucky I have a main Husky dealer 20 miles from me. My previous bike if you look at some of my very 1st videos was a Husky svartpilen 701... Its the bike I started the channel with. If I could own 2x bikes it would be this V85 and a Svart 701 👌🏼👑😎 Norden are class looking bikes

  • @markschmitz8575
    @markschmitz8575 3 месяца назад +1

    Modifying your bike is fine as long as you use parts designed for it and use them as intended.
    I hope you've resolved the issue by now.
    The first thing I would have tried is reloading the original map into the ECU if that was at all possible, and also install the baffle.
    I would think that the original ECU and sensors would have been able to compensate for the muffler with baffle and the air filter.
    You really shouldn't have fiddled around trying to start the bike or ride the bike after this issue developed.
    If it were to be a problem with your oil pump, you could have completely fried your motor!
    I hope this has not been the case.

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  3 месяца назад +1

      @@markschmitz8575 I tried returning the bike back to standard, including putting the catalyst back on and installing the original map.
      In the end it was the throttle potentiometer that was broken. A new set of heated grips fixed the running issue and dash lights. As for the bad starting issue. This is down to damp getting into a wire or connector. Because riding in Europe for 16 days of 30+deg temps dried it out and the bike started perfectly every day and continues to run perfectly every day with All modification back on the bike before I went to Europe. Check out the MOTORCYCLE NIRVANA video and you will see how great the bike runs with all the mods.. 👍🏻
      Thanks for stopping by.. 👍🏻

  • @fabioperretta9298
    @fabioperretta9298 6 месяцев назад +1

    Ciao non ho capito che midifiche hai fatto al V 85 TT ? Ho anch'io un V 85 TT euro 5 e vorrei installare il Kit Decat Mistral ovvero collettori maggiorati, compensatore Y omologato e V Twin Boost lasciando lo scarico di serie. Tu che modifiche hai fatto?

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  6 месяцев назад

      I have fitted MassMoto decat system and storm muffler. Map is with upmap..

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  6 месяцев назад

      I have fitted a MassMoto decat system and storm muffler. The mapping is via Upmap..

  • @stoundingresults
    @stoundingresults 8 месяцев назад

    In my old suzuki intruder vl1500, the dummy switch on the clutch lever gave me problems after riding in the rain, and a cable that lifted the valves to help turn over would get stretched and needed adjustment. That and weak battery were the few reasons it never started. Just to give you a possibility maybe when the valves were adjusted on your moto Guzzi it wasn't on top dead center?

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for the feedback 👍🏼

  • @Tec2Nut
    @Tec2Nut 8 месяцев назад +1

    Motto Guzzy have a dealer in Dublin ?

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks.. I think this might be my option if my local mechanic can't fix in a weeks time.. 👍🏼. At least I won't need a boat 🤣

  • @checker3694
    @checker3694 4 месяца назад +1

    Any motorcycle garage with Texa can read Guzzi,s. or for tge price of a exhaust canbuy OBDSTAR iscan with Moto Guzzi software,£300 ish Uk, then you sorted for life whatever guzzi you own. Just subscribed my 3rd Guzzi joining my collection in 10 days

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  4 месяца назад

      THanks for the Sub and the great information... 👍 Yep this one has given me headaches, but I'm never selling it

  • @yogid21
    @yogid21 8 месяцев назад +2

    people mess around with their bike esp the ecu and complaint if it doesn't work properly anymore?

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад +2

      Am I complaining? The bike has run superbly for 9mths modified. It's not the mods that is the issue, it's somthing has broken, got corroded, fell off or worn through a wire.
      I love the bike, it just needs fixed. The issue is there is now no MG dealer within 350 miles of me including needing to get a boat

    • @Vfrguy3126
      @Vfrguy3126 8 месяцев назад

      Hi there, There is a MG dealer in Dublin, Megabikes. Might be worth contacting them for advice. Hope that the bike is sorted soon

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Vfrguy3126 cheers. I'll look into it.. If the private mechanic isn't able to sort it.

  • @geecee4746
    @geecee4746 8 месяцев назад +1

    Is it still under warranty?

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад +1

      No, Its 14mths out of Warranty

    • @jonathonpoole5070
      @jonathonpoole5070 8 месяцев назад +1

      Doesn’t sound too bad. I would say a sensor issue - Throttle position sensor, air pressure sensor, oil pressure sensor etc. I’d start with a diagnostics test and go from there. Certainly not terminal 👍

  • @MjrMeerkat
    @MjrMeerkat 8 месяцев назад

    Im sorry to hear. Its a common thing, workshops or dealer dislike or even turn down fixing privately customized bikes. It could take Weeks to even locate the error.
    Performance-Tuning always messes with many Components and their lifespan, even with some Parts People didnt even thought of.
    It sounds like this will take you luck to find a willing Workshop and a bunch of Time&Money. Consider carefully, if you even want to invest this.
    Thanks for the Video and sharing your story, its a good lesson for others to think twice before modifying some vital components on their V85TT.
    I wish you all the best.

  • @hotdoug1000
    @hotdoug1000 8 месяцев назад +2

    Really hope you get this sorted, quickly and not much €€! Mate sorry to read this.
    That sounded horrid, not what a MG should sound like at all 😢

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the comment
      I'm hoping it isn't mega bucks either. 🙏

  • @geecee4746
    @geecee4746 8 месяцев назад

    Mcrums still covering the warranty, and if it's out of warranty, im sure they would have the knowledge, hope you get sorted, seen you at the nw

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад +6

      McCrum and I dont se eye too eye.. He told me that if my bike is on the bike rack and 10 of his customers come in behind me, my bike will be taken off the stand and the others fixed in front of me.. if another 10 of his customers come in my bike will go to the back of the queue. All because I bought my bike on the mainland. This stance of his is totally ILLEAGAL. from a consumer standpoint. Hence why I will NEVER darken his doors no matter how desperate I was...

    • @geecee4746
      @geecee4746 8 месяцев назад

      @@buckymoto1784 i understand 👍👍

    • @hotdoug1000
      @hotdoug1000 8 месяцев назад +1

      There's no consumer duty involved there. A customer is a customer. I bought a bike (BMW) in England but live in Scotland, it should be serviced etc and dealt with like any customer as should yours. I'd avoid that garage too mate! 🤞🤞

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад

      @@hotdoug1000 I'm the same. I bought a golf in London and never have a local vw dealer in NI told me I'm back of the que..

  • @ericronan6389
    @ericronan6389 8 месяцев назад

    That sounds like a weak mixture. As you say it could be a temperature sensor or an air leak from an intake pipe. Good luck with it.

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад +1

      Somone else has suggested the metal clips around the intake on the backside of the cylinders istn tight enough and needs changed to a proper jubilee clip. They said air was leaking in.

    • @stoundingresults
      @stoundingresults 8 месяцев назад

      You can try with engine starter spray in that area. ​@@buckymoto1784

    • @NakaNakaDerkaDerka
      @NakaNakaDerkaDerka 7 месяцев назад +1

      Sensors are disabled by upmap update.

  • @brentharrington9235
    @brentharrington9235 8 месяцев назад

    I'm no motorcycle expert...but have you thought about taking it to a DEALER?

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад +1

      The local dealer gave up the franchise 4mths ago. Nearest is 350 miles away and a 6hrs boat over the Irish Sea

    • @brentharrington9235
      @brentharrington9235 8 месяцев назад

      Yeah well...single source on an island.
      Fix it and trade it in for something with broader coverage.
      It's not like you got much choice mate. You need to plan a long weekend and head to the mainland.

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад

      @@brentharrington9235 it's completly bricked now.. The throttle doesn't even work.. I don't own a car with towbar. For a trailor hire.

    • @brentharrington9235
      @brentharrington9235 8 месяцев назад

      @@buckymoto1784 dang that's a tight spot.
      You are going to need to hire someone.
      ...you're telling me you got not a single person on that entire island that can work on Italian bikes?
      In the states we have bike shops that specialize in "European" bikes. They can work on anything from Triumph to Ducati to KTM. We just call them Metric Mechanics.
      Your entire nation is metric, you can't find ANYONE?

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад

      @@brentharrington9235 I have found a guy but he can't look at it for 4 weeks. It's riding season here now all the garage queen bikes are out now along with the winter riders. Mechanics are super busy. I have asked in local fb pages, there doesn't seem to be any dedicated Italian mechanics. There was one but he retired last year. He did my bikes 1st service.

  • @radiocrash
    @radiocrash 8 месяцев назад

    Tight valves ?

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад

      Adjusted, 3 weeks ago in prep for its 12k service. Oils were all changed 4 days ago, that is when the limp mode started when I took it a ride

    • @radiocrash
      @radiocrash 8 месяцев назад

      @@buckymoto1784 so it started after the service? It’s possible that they adjusted the valves incorrectly. All the symptoms of tight valves. Hard cold starts then easy start when hot. It’s easy enough to check them if you are handy with tools. Lots of videos on here talking you through the process.

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад +1

      @@radiocrash I'm the one does the servicing. Valves are perfect 👌🏼 the cold starting issue was present even before I adjusted the valves 3 weeks ago... The valves where almost perfect. The intakes wer pretty much spot on. The exhaust wer maybe a little loose

    • @radiocrash
      @radiocrash 8 месяцев назад

      @@buckymoto1784 agh fair enough

  • @stoatsngroatsuk5012
    @stoatsngroatsuk5012 8 месяцев назад +2

    Sorry to hear you have issues, it’s one of the things which put me off the MG. I hope you get this sorted completely and without too much cost!

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks.. 👍🏼

    • @brentharrington9235
      @brentharrington9235 8 месяцев назад

      Meh I've had 4 MG now, nary an issue with any of em. Well, one of them died after it was crashed at 70mph, but I can't rally blame Moto Guzzi for that one can I?

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад +2

      @@brentharrington9235 I absolutely love the bike. On road and off road.. And a mile muncher. She will rise from the ashes 🙏💪

    • @brentharrington9235
      @brentharrington9235 8 месяцев назад

      @@buckymoto1784 well if you got no dealers on your island...maybe need to make a different choice.

  • @davidpollock4703
    @davidpollock4703 8 месяцев назад

    A very honest video/vlog. I think Wes has the wrong attitude- if I book a diagnostic/service slot, that is my slot. Not some of my mates, closer customers etc. Not a good look for a business (in my opinion). Hope you get sorted soon

  • @richarddonaldson4018
    @richarddonaldson4018 8 месяцев назад +3

    I had a v85tt loved it, lack of main dealer interest and several totally avoidable faults later , I sold it. Piaggio group will gladly take your cash, but then you are on your own !

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад

      Agree, I absolutely love mine.. Does anything I want it too. But I see far too many horror stories when parts need ordered

    • @richarddonaldson4018
      @richarddonaldson4018 8 месяцев назад

      @@buckymoto1784 Bought a Suzuki V Strom 800DE , not as charismatic but it will not break!

    • @michaelnew1038
      @michaelnew1038 8 месяцев назад

      @@buckymoto1784 And they don't honour extended warranties either!

  • @alandmorley
    @alandmorley 8 месяцев назад

    disconnect the battery and leave on charge for a day. Worth a try and cost nothing.

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад

      Alrasdy tried, but thanks for the tip.. 👍🏼

  • @Messiahwalter
    @Messiahwalter 5 месяцев назад +2

    Do not modify your bike …. And you will have no problem 👍👋

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  5 месяцев назад +2

      That would be boring. Bike now working fine

  • @Messiahwalter
    @Messiahwalter 8 месяцев назад +1

    I am afraid Guzzi Will not do much !!! You perhaps did too many modifications (?)

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад

      I agree, I was never taking it to Guzzi in the 1st place..

  • @GiancarloBenzina
    @GiancarloBenzina 8 месяцев назад +6

    Why do people think they have to tune a non-race, urban commuter engine? Ridiculous. And now what, we shall give advise how to fix a broken bike, where almost everything’s messed up? You’d likely have a hard time finding a garage to work on your bike.
    The guzzi is fine as it comes. If you want guzzi race power get a 1100/1200 race bike, properly set up and tuned by dynotec germany.
    But regardless, if you have no solid moto guzzi background or a garage specialized, I wouldn’t buy any bike, especially no tractors or derivates from (guzzi, harley, indian, …) that people claim being simple, not even japanese.
    Get a Honda Scooter, then.
    It’s Hilarious to tune the bike with modules and mappings, without a garage actually designing and measuring all up, having no clue and then going online asking people without the know about the bike’s real history to give opinions about an opinionated view of what’s broken.

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  8 месяцев назад +8

      🤣
      1. Who's wanting to race.. The bike is strangled due to E5 regs. All I and many thousands of others are doing is give the Gootsi it's full potential. The decat also get rid of a LOT of heat from the motor..
      2. There was a dealer but they gave up the franchise 4mths ago.
      I take mine off road a lot. The standard setup was rubbish. A very snatching throttle at low speed with zero smooth articulation of the throttle with ghost surging.. The new setup has fixed all those issues.
      3. It's my bike, not yours. You keep yours standard if that's what floats your boat. I'll do whatever the heck I want with mine 😘.
      4. If you don't have any real suggestions scroll on by...

    • @NakaNakaDerkaDerka
      @NakaNakaDerkaDerka 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@buckymoto1784ignore these folks… I agree having 2 e5 air cooled guzzis, they are running too lean at low rpm which is bad for the motor. I also run upmap on both, and I do not believe for a moment it’s from upmap, nor the sensors as upmap I understand doesn’t use them. You may want to check with them on that.

    • @buckymoto1784
      @buckymoto1784  7 месяцев назад

      @@NakaNakaDerkaDerka I now suspect either the throttle body isn't operating correctly or as you said ignition...

    • @JohnMitchellRocna
      @JohnMitchellRocna 6 месяцев назад +2

      I have the a “21 V85TT that has “no mods” which has been from Vancouver to Cabo San Lucas (Baja) with a lot of off road riding in +38 degree temperature. Not a problem with the bike… it is stock and it works. Now with 30,000 klicks…