Why Season 1 Homelander Hits Different...
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Homelander from The Boys is one of the greatest villains of all time. Homelander is portrayed brilliantly by Anthony Starr. There is something about season 1 Homelander that hits different.
In seasons 2 and 3 of The Boys we dive into Homelander's backstory and explore who he is as a character. Because of this the mystery and facade surrounding Homelander starts to disappear.
Meanwhile, in season 1 of The Boys, Homelander is so frightening because we don't know what he's capable of. He was a mystery.
I think both s1 and s4 homelander are both equally terrifying in different ways. S1 homelander was terrifying because he was an unknown, mysterious, and unpredictable. S4 homelander is terrifying because he’s unhinged and much more unpredictable.
Homelander is extremely predictable at this point.
@@harvest44492 Not really, we have no idea when he’ll just randomly decide to start rampaging around NYC
@@finixmoon127 We know nothing happens this season from the leaks, besides the character assasination of Huey and Soldier boy popping up in the final episode.
@@harvest44492 Aaah see that’s the issue, if you start listening to the leaks you’re never gonna be able to fully appreciate anything…
@@finixmoon127 I could've predicted nothing would happen before the leaks, thats been every season since season 1 lol
It’s the Hair in S1 that makes him more intimidating🙏💀
yeah his hair change so much across the seasons
@@shauryaawashti9472 Not really, in Season 1 his hair was a parted fade. After that it was a swept back fade.
@@PleaseDoNotDoThisi think his hair is a lot better in season 1 i think its more well kept rather and it progressively gets longer. i think his hair looked best in season 1 and 2
Season 5 Homelander will be the scariest one, he will have NOTHING to lose.
Fingers crossed! 🤞
Nah. They'll neuter him and make him pathetic. Kripke said he hated that people loved Soldier Boy and thought he was badass. He's terrified of masculinity. He won't allow Homelander to be scary again. This will be another MCU phase 5-esque antagonist. He'll go out with a whimper.
@@TheStraightestWhitestno way
@@TheStraightestWhitestsince when was masculinity being being murderer? I can’t take you people seriously especially with that ridiculous name
@@TheStraightestWhitest Uh, what? Many assumptions there.
First off, Soldier Boy is literally a racist, toxically masculine loser. The only reason people like him is because the actor is charismatic, he has some good lines with Homelander, and he's just entertaining to watch. Not to mention that he's not even the perfect 'masculine' guy you want him to be since he constantly rags on about his vulnerabilities anyways.
Second, Homelander's eventual unhinged mass murder spree is constantly foreshadowed throughout all of the story. There's no reason why he wouldn't do it, especially after he loses everything.
Third, there's NOTHING masculine about a man child going on a murder spree lmfao. What are you on?
This is what happens when people watch too many facist videos by the alt-right. I'm being unironic when I say that the show makes fun of people like you.
i disagree. i think homelander was the least scariest in season 1. there are moments in season 1 when you think he’ll do something horrible and then he just doesn’t do anything. he’s on stillwell’s leash for most of the season. he acted more “sane” in season 1.
That’s totally a fair point. I feel like we didn’t know anything about him which made him so scary. But he was controlled by Stillwell and Vought in season 1, where as now he isn’t.
Him being unhinged doesn't make him scarier. Him being in control is what makes him scary.
i disagree. homelander felt the most unpredictable season 1, because you were in fear of what he was holding back and sort of learning where his limits were
I'm sorry, what changed?
Staring into the camera with a black facial expression for the 3rd time in a season isn't scary mate
He’s not getting less scary, we just know him more.
And knowing someone makes them less scary. Like Negan from walking dead
@@Vladimir66616 “Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t” my grandfather used to say…
Fear of the unknown, a lot of the times we're afraid most when we don't understand it
That's how characters get... less scary.. Part of why Dark Knight Joker is creepy because of how little we know him
Nah, just rewatched the season. He's way too unpredictable in season 1. Especially in the finale where he questions Butchers belief and all he can do is stay silent
They handled his character perfectly in season 1. I like that they fleshed out his character slowly and you dont get a real grasp of what he truly is until episode 4 when he leaves flight 37 to die.
That scene was terrifying.
Totally agree! Also love the username!
That's cause they had good writers. The head director was a breaking bad director and Kripke, after season 1 he left
He literally kills a child in the first episode at the end. What a subtle hint they put there that he is a deranged monster.
@@NateDG72 She wanted to kill herself
Every season, Homelander becomes more unstable. His freakouts, his kills, they become much more brutal. But his unstableness reveals his humanity. Season 1 Homelander really did not care about what he did, which is why he actually felt like an evil superman. This is why he was the most scary in S1
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The biggest difference is S1 Homelander is smart.
He's the only one at vought concerned about the boys, when you would think the most powerful man would be unfazed by them, he successfully tracks down who they are, while he is creating super villains all over the world with compound v.
The homelander of season 1 would have killed all the boys as soon as he met them so he had to be changed.
*Season 1 Homelander had that "No Country for Old Men" Vibes...*
Perfectly said. Anton Chighur aura
And you just gave me something to watch, thx
Agree. Season 1 he felt dangerous. Every scene on screen was dripping with tension and we never knew what he could or was willing to do. Nowadays when the Boys confront him, it's like "Ayo, Homelander, same time same place next week?". They should have not put the spotlight so much on him, but more on The Seven. In season one it was basically the Boys trying to figure out who they could take out.
I really think homelander has suffered a lot from flanderization. In season 1 he is genuinely intelligent and clever. Every season after one he just drops in iq. Like I get he is supposed to be crazy but he will just murder people or maim them for no good reason and make his own life more difficult.
idk...i think its a stretch to call Homelander intelligent. He's not stupid, and he is clever at times, but he's like...slightly above normal human level intelligence imo.
What makes him scary, is a combination of how overpowered he is, and how emotionally immature he is. Mind you, most of his time in S1 was spent in a trance watching Stillwell drain her titty milk. When he didn't get what he wanted (her attention)...he melted her face. That's not intelligence this is manchildness in the hands of the strongest being on Earth.
Homelanders true weakness is his mind. No prison can currently hold him, no one in principle can tell him what to do. Like strings dangling a hammer above glass case... and people, like the Boys are slowly cutting those strings. That is what makes him scary, not his intelligence level, so his threat level just gets higher with each season. Poking the proverbial bear, Homelander is the bear.
@@NightmareCourtPictures Season 1 homelander is very smart. He gets Supes into the military through is own plan to spread compound v to terrorists and using tragedies and crisis to his advantage. Also just in general he was much sharper better at masking himself etc…
I don't disagree with your observations, but in his case it feels like a really sharp character study. Some characters devolve over time because of lazy writing or pandering, and it can really kill the character and put a damper on the show. But Homelander's descent into irrationality, impulsivity, and uncontrollable outbursts feels pretty true-to-life given the man the show built him up to be. Homelander was always meant to be a textbook narcissist with a fragile ego. In the real world, people like that are often extremely smart, shrewd, and motivated - until something threatens that ego. Then they are obsessive and petty - vindictive to the point of being totally self defeating. I've seen a few people make this transformation and even from a distance it can be shocking to see how the smartest person in the room can turn into the consistently biggest idiot you've ever met.
Maybe because he’s literally a psychopathic murderer and he knows he can do whatever he wants because he’s the strongest person in that universe
@@sonofpeleusexactly. Like their own insecurity is the thing defeating them
Its natural that he gets less terrifying and more unstable, that's the thing, the boys are getting stronger, and more organized, their plans succeeded.
He is still scary, he can easily kill most of the cast if he snaps, but his ego is broken, his team is fractured, he is getting old, he is losing.
The boys have gotten away because their plans are working. I'm still tense, one of these days their plan will fail, but for now they're winning.
Well said… I agree
Yeah, that's trash writing. He can just instantly erase anyone. He used to realize that.
Doesn't change the fact that he could literally just reduce them to mush in a minute
@@Iianator I recommend everyone with a similar opinion to rewatch the series, and pay closer attention to season 1. Hell, there's a whole arc with Homelander talking about exactly that.
@@Schultz3 he literally has no reason to leave them be. In 2 years most of the seven are dead, Vought is a bumbling political mess and super villains showed up killing hundreds. The Boys were literally labeled terrorists in season 2, nobody will miss them realistically
Finally someone says it. The writing quality has been dropping too. Comparing to the pacing in the season 1, now they’re rushing most conflicts.
I know it was a meta humor from the start, but you could see the show taking itself seriously the first season, now it almost seems like a parody of itself.
Season 4 has so far been by far the worst
100%, I can't believe how much the show has dropped off.
Frenchie turning full flamr, hughie looking more hench than mothers milk, wtf man
I would agree with that for the first three episodes, but 4 and 5 have really picked up pace with some solid writing to back it up. You can tell after episode 5 that the build up to the finale is starting to happen. People just need to wait until the end of the season to fully judge it.
Anthony Starr not winning any awards is....diabolical
Actually crazy
when homelander was in syria and all you saw was pitch black and his glowing red eyes. He felt above humanity itself, like a pure force of nature. It was scary how he just ended lives with zero emotion and the plane scenes were iconic
Homelander is the most cohesive character in my opnion. He's not just some op guy that is very one dimensional. He craves for affection, he is frustrated that he is "weak" and has a human side, and that makes him even scarier tbh
I think the problem is just a matter of over-exposure, he was used very sparingly in season 1 which added to his fear factor, his appearances were kept for big impactful scenes, but since the character's rise in popularity his screentime has massively increased at the expense of his presence as an antagonist, while I still overall like him he's barely a threat anymore, the ice-skating episode is such a laughable display of how far his character has fallen in terms of fear factor, it really feels like their stunt would not have worked on S1 Homelander
that scene was laughably bad. he literally could have used his x ray or super hearing to see hughie through the wallls. and he can go through walls easily so theres really nothing stopping him from killing hughie. And he would have heard a train coming. he literally pokes his head into the vent instead of just looking through it. hughie getting away was a joke.
@@lucasbevan7241 the vents are made of zinc, hope that helps
@@pakelist love how clowns like you chose to omitt readin EVERYTHING else and just stick to one thing
@@pakelist At one point Hughie leaves the vents though and is running around for ages, without HL even flying upto him.
wow the more i think about that scene the more trash it feels
I have to disagree. Homelander is like an onion who has so many layers to his character that is still being discovered. Every season we are witnessing new aspects of his character in different scenarios that still gives him an aura of intimidation and unpredictability.
Like this!
Its like the dialogue in the dictator: Homelander is like an onion. Just when you think the outer layer is an asshole, you peel it out and there is 10 other layers of asshole in it
@@JohnnyJustice777 lmao
They spent more time on season 1. It was way more polished. I feel like each season seems more rushed than the the season before it. They spend more time trying to gross us out than giving us story that matters.
Totally agree
I think most season 1s are usually the best cause the directors and writers don’t think they might get a season 2. For them it’s mostly passion
@@Vladimir66616 good point
Part of why i felt like he was scary on season one was coz i walked in, expecting an average super hero series, but start to realise that every member of this hero organisation is corrupt, and since the show only showed that on the members of the seven first, I couldnt really comprehend what their leader is like.
Completely agree… homelander was like our entry into how corrupt all the superhero’s are.
Wonder why butcher lied to Hughie at first about homelander when they first met
That's because in S1, Homelander had nobody above him, just the Stillwell woman who still tried to appease him. In S2, we had Stan Edgar chopping off his metaphorical balls, in S3 we had Maeve and Soldier Boy expose him for the wimp that he truly was, in S4, Victoria Newman is just as much a threat as Homelander was.
Good point.
Victoria Newman is only as much of a threat as she is because she is under Homelander's thumb. You can tell she's still very intimidated by him. Also Homelander beat Maeve's ass when she tried to fight him and gouged out her eye. Moreover, it seemed pretty obvious that Solider Boy would have lost to Homelander if he was fighting him one on one. There are still no characters who can truly challenge his authority and control
lol he’s not a wimp
@@Vladimir66616 He almost died fighting Maeve and Soldier Boy. If Butcher got Ryan out of the way and Maeve/Soldier Boy whaled on Homelander, there would be no Season 4.
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what one on one are you talking about. In the orgy SB was severly exhausted after the blast and still put up a good fight. Even butcher did manage to stand up to him, in the second fight he easily grabbed him with one hand and was going for it all
also, season 1 homie hits diff because of his... hair. he has that better style that shows the waves. season 2 and so on is just fully slicked back
Every keeps saying this… but it’s so true 😭
they need to show homelanders insane powers more instead of his weaknesses
100%
Imo it’s either you want a badass mysterious character or
A well written maniac
He is terrifying for different reasons now. S1 Homelander was terrifying because he reminded me of the kind of Government assassin that kills without feeling and rocks that squeaky clean facade. He is merciless, angry and hard to determine. S2/3 deconstruct him by exposing his emotional flaws and showing him as an immature, egocentric person that the show tries hard for you to hate but is getting dumber...somehow? He's still scary because he is like a walking time bomb now. But less of a calculated threat. Him murdering Stillwell likely traumatized him due to him lacking a maternal figure. As for an irl reason, I think the writers really wanted to hammer down the metaphorical comparisons between Homelander and Trump as time went on
100% he’s still scary, but in different light.
@@Moth_Movies Another interesting idea is, I think the editing of S1 created a unique Homelander. The deleted scenes of S1 showed more of the familiar aspects of S2/3 Homelander we would know later on. (The deleted scene where Homelander pleasures himself while yelling he can do whatever he wants that was later put in S2, and the flashback scene of him as a kid murdering a maternal figure by accident from a hug)
@@ZetaReticuli1. Wow! That is a great observation. Never thought of that.
Those attempts ruined the character. Kripke and his team are braindead woke clowns who ruined the show.
@@TheStraightestWhitestthis is my favorite show and I hate politics. I hope they really aren’t going to go for some kind of message. Disney and every other corporation already do that
I think the facade of Homelander fading away throughout the seasons is the whole point. It's not just about beating him, physically.
They cant beat his physically, it has to be about breaking him down mentally, just like the comics.
Homelander was so much smarter and more intimidating... and more powerful
I know 🥲
Amazon pulled the classic "draw it out while it's popular, ruin it, then rush the end"
Like HBO with game of thrones.
The fact that Homelander loses his sanity is scary by each season.
Homelander is the only reason I am watching the show. It has surely gone repetetive and Homelander going scorched Earth is long overdue for me.
So due
He was a much better character in season one, and some of season 2. Now he’s become a caricature of himself surrounded by characters with titanium plot-armor.
The boys have infinite plot armor…it’s crazy
@@Moth_Movies Homelander, the man that can hear a relatively small explosion from states away, that can see inside people in detail and straight through roofs, but Hughie can hide not even 5 feet from him... wtf.
@@someordinarydude9147Zinc in the vents. He can't see through it
@@juliandavis9711 There is no reason why Hughie should have been able to get away, period. Even without being able to see his other senses are beyond exceptional and he can fly insanely fast. This scene is ridiculous.
@@someordinarydude9147 Yeah and there's no reason as to why any of the boys should be alive because homelander could have killed then at any point and use his powers to track them. Kinda ruins the entire show then doesn't it 😞
I think the issue its very simple, The Boys do things without ever seeing any punishment for it, No one dies, no one gets hurts beyond repair, there are no stakes. Homelander had Starlight death to rights in an elevator and he did not kill her (When she was considered a terrorist and was infilitrating the tower...) because she was live streaming it! How dumb is that, ofcourse he can kill her. But he does not, he would do it anyway because he is angry at her to the point i could see him not giving a damn but him not doing anything about it its dumb, Him not doing anything to Butcher every time they talk its dumb, the fact that he also did not just lasered Stan Edgar for talking down to him is dumb. It hurt the character in ways that its unnecesary, im not saying that Homelander has to win everything what im saying is that if you constantly humiliate him or make him look dumb on pourpose you lose something special.
He still the highlight of the show which is weird given how hard they try to make him worse every season.
The only reason Homelander is getting less scary is because we're getting to know him. Once you understand something you cannot fear it.
He got nerfed
No offense but Homelander should not have another season of absolute domination. The character has run his course, and repeating the same "mysterious" style of him just makes the story repetitively stale.
It's very obvious that Homelander's downfall in power is intentional to the show's narrative. Villains gotta fall eventually.
Honestly, when you mentioned how scary he was in the 2nd episode when he was hunting down Translucent, it bringed such a good memory of the first time i watched the show. And you're right, in these episodes he felt a lot scarier due to us not knowing him so well. But i have to say, he seems a lot scarier now in season 4. I don't think it's about where he was scarier; but there's just some different feelings you get along the series, it's a different kind of scary tbh.
Exactly. Homelander is still terrifying man, but in a different light! Glad to bring back some memories! Love this show!
i think the point is that homelander isn't necessarily scary because of his super powers. he is scary because of the regular powers: ownership of a giant corporation, means of controlling media, influence, and etc. i think the show is trying to make the point that super powers arent the thing we should fear, but corporate greed.
to me, this is way scarier, because it hits home way more. sure, super powers are also an undeniable factor (i gotta admit, the scene of him hunting down Translucent, lives rent free in my mind), but notice they mostly represent the extent of the regular power of the characters.
Season 1 was phenomenal, the show has never been able to reach that level of quality.
I know man… szn 3 is close though
The ending of s3 was bad and confusing though.
The motivations of Soldier Boy really confused me.
@@MrCaveman366 I mean that's on you if you were confused... cause it really wasn't confusing
@@iAmPimmiCue What was his motivation for killing Homelander ? Because he is a dissapointment?
From an in universe perspective season 4 Homelander is definitely the scariest. He almost completely unhinged with nobody to really keep him in line anymore. Hes basically a ticking time bomb at this point that will explode any second and the boys know that. Season 1 Homelander was kept under control for the most part by Vaught. There were times where people weren't necessarily afraid of him because he couldn't do anything to them because it would ruin his perfect image where as now he has seen how radical his supporters are and there is nobody to stand up to him anymore. You are right about the mystery part though. From a viewers pov, season 1 Homelander was the scariest because he was a lot more stoic and less of a man child than he was later and that gave him a real menacing aura.
They've overused used him and his kill count has dropped drastically. He's supposed to be the guy who gets the job done and we're supposed to wonder how TF are the boys supposed to survive against him, meanwhile Hughie got away from him in a vent 😅
Season 1 Homelander had black airforce activity. The Homelander we have now is a mascot for memes
So true 😭
He still got instances of black airforce activity, but it comes in small portions.. that being him telling Deep to blow the train man.
Everything famous becomes a meme eventually, it's not the writing it's just how our generation works. Doesn't make homelander any less intimidating or scary
@@angryvaultguyhe’s def less scary now that we’ve seen a god cry and lose a fight
@@Vladimir66616when did he lose a fight?
all the short clips of homelander that go viral remind me of just how hard he carries the show lmao
I think the fact he is such a man-child makes his scarier, you never know what is gonna set him off and it’s often the dumbest smallest things and that’s scary because we’ve seen more and more what happens as he progressively stops holding back more often.
Nah, the best Homelander scene was the S1 finale. The man child memes are idiotic and ruined the character. Him being calm and in control because he knows he's incredibly powerful is what made him effective as an antagonist.
@@TheStraightestWhitest I agree that that's the best homelander but he only became a man child because he was spiraling out of control
@@TheStraightestWhitestYeah but like the main point of homelander is that he is crazy and unhinged.I mean stripping that away worsens his character He is still scary and unpredictable we just are familiar with him now
@@VinnyGuardino He isn't scary or unpredictable at all anymore. The fact that people were shocked that he killed Anika or Noir just shows that the fandom is exactly what Sage said: Clapping seals.
I saw that shit coming a mile away. He's not unpredictable. He's the most predictable thing ever. What does the unhinged crazy man child do when confronted with things he doesn't like? Throw a tantrum. It's extremely predictable. You know exactly what he's going to do in every single scenario.
That was different in S1. That plane sequence was extremely unexpected because he was in control. When he talked to Frenchie while trying to find Translucent, you genuinely couldn't tell if he was onto them or not. When he killed Madelyn Stillwell, it came outta nowhere because he'd literally just thanked her for not lying to him about being scared of him, which gave you this false sense of security that he was going to show her she didn't have to be, only to prove exactly why she was scared of him.
It was without glazing brilliant writing. And it was only in S1 and Homelander's first scene of S2. After that, it was all memes and "lol muh man child" writing. Trashed what could've been the best TV show antagonist ever.
Season 1 - A man in control is scarier
Season 3 - A deranged psycho doing whatever he wants.
One is a force to fear, other is a dog to put down, not scarier.
Well put man
objectively looking as a person who watched the boys, it is pretty normal to see homelander in the later seasons scarier since he is no longer under vought control and more unhinged compared to season 1, but if you could watch the series for the first time again it wouldn't be so hard to realize that mysteriousness in the s1 makes him so much more scary.
Season 1 Homelander was the most interesting personality. Charming while being cunning and unpredictable, now he's just unpredictable.
I see a lot of people saying he was actually less scary in season 1 because he had more control over his emotions, that's the very reason he was scarier.
He behaved like a real psychopath. Remember that scene where he put his hand inside the chest of a criminal and then pull his heart off while looking in his eyes? He just laser people when he gets mad now. don´t feel scary, just lazy.
I agree with you in that the "seriousness" of the character in the first season added to his mystique. However, I actually think the scariest he's been was at the end of season 3, when he killed his "best friend" for almost no reason at all, and then just started humiliating his crew for no reason again. The implication of what's the come as he has less and less people controling him, in that scene, with black noir's helmet on the table, was the scariest I've felt regarding Homelander and his presence in the show.
TBF it was not "no reason". It was something pretty important to homelander.
they just took the traits from the characters that people liked and redid it but so much more on the nose in season 4. Its the tinnitus "I'm losing my sense of reality" for Homelander with the "yummers" meme milkshakes, its the making fun of the alt-right conspiracy theorists and social justice warriors, its the "A-train might be good" and the "I'm comedically submissive to Homelander and have sex with aquatic animals for The Deep", its the "what if Black Noir came back but he is like goofy person that subverts the stoic and cool earlier noir?" it is the "I'm suddenly bi-sexual but I'm also traumatized from my past" for Frenchie, its the "I'll shave my beard to look more in charge but there will inevitably be the same tension between me and Butcher" for Mother's Milk and the powerless and passive Butcher that has months to live. I don't think it is on a trajectory towards anything interesting sadly.
I disagree with you. The Boys series is not so much about the plot as it is about the characters. Someone wrote that Homelander is like an onion, revealing layer after layer, but the same can be said about all the characters from the very beginning. That's why I'm most surprised by people who are outraged that Frenchie is bisexual. It was clear from the start that he was open to everything. People who don't like what the series is becoming didn't watch the third season carefully. Everything you listed was in the third season. And the third season flowed smoothly from the second, and so on. The creators wrote each character well and then just let them go free. And it's exactly how they interact with each other and with the world within their characteristics that drives the plot. The fourth season is becoming more insane. More blood, more trauma, more dark humor. It's a natural progression, right? It's what was clear about the series from the first three minutes of the first episode of the first season. People disappointed with the series are disappointed for their own subjective reasons. If you try to look at it objectively, the development is quite logical. The series will end with the deaths of Homelander and Butcher. I'm willing to bet on it.
@@rodeointblud I never said the progressions were not logical I just said it has become too on the nose for my taste. It makes sense for Frenchie to be bisexual but I don't find it very interesting the plotline we have seen with Frenchie and the guy whose family he killed and then Frenchie and Kimiko. It made sense for M to become leader of the Boys but I just don't like him trying to take charge of things and constantly having no authority over any of the characters etc. It does seem like Butcher might regain some powers now and he will end up dying and maybe killing Homelander in the process (scorched earth) and that might be one of the few things I look forward to. Also what they will do about the cryogenically frozen Soldier Boy.
the tenstion came from how theyre gonna outsmart him without him going fucking batshit crazy and killing everything since they dont even know how to kill him yet. he went from terrifying and unknown to terrifying because you KNOW what he can do
Yeah no lie
First 2 seasons when he was on screen, you were on the edge because you didn’t know what he would do, if he killed someone you felt it and if he didn’t you were relieved
But now when I see him on screen, it’s like “oh great Homelander, what or when will he kill?”
The more I see him the more I’m like “bruh fuck this guy”
Like in season 4 when he kills, your like “oh what a surprise”
The kills he done so far are redundant and are just him killing for the sake of it
S1 Homelander was truly invincible, the fear was that, if he does whatever he truly wants, no one, even combined, will be able to lift a finger to stop him. The only thing stopping him was his own choices.
Now, he's vulnerable. We saw Soldier Boy almost hold his own while weakened and we saw Butcher give him a good fight. He's a lot less scary because we know he's beatable.
i truly respect the fact that you did not to feel the need to shit on later seasons of homelander in order to praise the version of him we had in season 1.
Appreciate you saying that!
The issue is the TDS that is showing in season 4. It used to be a more balanced mockery, now its just Hollywood "screw the reds" mentality
Yeah the red glowing eyes…chills man. When he was in the dark or in the dark sky.
Chills
Dude never once did he carry the show on his own
Always there was Butcher, Stan and story arcs of A train, and in season 3 they introduced the greatest character of the show the Soldier Boy
He also had the best appearance in season 1. He looked broad, confident all the time, wearing his hair however he wanted. He looked imposing. That and the fact that the only things we knew about his strength was that he was the strongest supe in the world and had survived every weapon on earth.
Szn 1 suit+hair>>>>
The audience is basically put in the shoes of the Boys.
In Season 1, all of the Boys (except Butcher) are terrified of Homelander. They know nothing about him, and he's basically a god.
And then they start to get to know him... and suddenly, he's less scary. He still possesses godlike powers, but he's mostly human.
When Hughie stared him down in Season 3, that was the final nail in the coffin
He was always a manchild in Season 1, as he always cared about Stillwell, being jealous of her baby, and wanting to drink milk. I think that the more we learned about him and him becoming unhinged just made it less intimidating
I think the fact that he was written to have childhood trauma and that's why he is who he is kinda ruined it. It humanized him and makes you say "Well it happens in the real world. Hurt people, hurt people".
If he was just actually mentally insane without any type of deeprooted issue, then he would be incredibly terrifying.
I think it's because he didn't know Ryan existed until the end of season 1. So, Homelander had nothing to "hide" from his true personality because there was no one he actually loved until he met Ryan.
What made him more terrifying in S1 that we didnt know what his next was gonna be not like now when everytime he appears he throws a tantrum.Also his hair was dope
i completely agree, homelander's character development should've been handled very differently. the whole man child thing honestly doesn't track for his character after rewatching from s1 forwards, it feels like the show runners were just tired of ppl liking him so they made him as unlikable as possible in spite of his own character. i'm aware a lot of people don't see this and believe that homelander has had a great development, but i think after watching certain moments with his character more closely throughout the series, they would change their minds. for example, throughout season 1, he was shown to be both an immovable object and an unstoppable force, only bending to the desires of people who he "looked up to" in some way, like stillwell or stan edgar. with every other character, he was the boss, and for a good reason. he had no issue killing anyone else. but as the series continued, the writers wrote themselves into corners again and again, resulting in many situations where homelander really should've done something worse than he did (usually he would just do nothing at all), and characters would get off scotfree in situations where it really didn't make sense. in turn, this made the moments where homelander actually delivered sensible consequences much more rewarding, such as when supersonic dies. this is also why the fight with soldier boy worked so well, we know that homelander can't do shit, and therefore it feels much more rewarding. 99% of the time homelander CAN do shit and the writers just castrate him.
Or maybe the authors just had a vision you didn't take into account
@@faizissa8617 i don't disagree with creative vision at all, it's crucial. i am only saying that if you're going to write a character a certain way, you can't pick and choose how the character acts in situations where they'd be expected to act another way. i don't think it's a complete character assassination in homelander's case but it's not far from it either
s4e4 just made him the most scariestly terrifingest villain ever
Love it
I personally think it’s just a different type of fear. Season 1 really gave us that feeling of powerlessness that works so well in horror. Nobody could touch him and that was terrifying. We have that feeling much less now with The Boys being formidable. But I think he scares me more now with how unrestrained, unhinged, and absolutely ruthless he is.
Homelander became a complete clown in season 2. He went from one of the most menacing TV villains to getting offended over shitty Facebook memes.
It also doesn’t help that they nerfed his powers and his intelligence. It doesn’t help that everyone has tons of plot armor.
Less was more
Less was more>>>
I disagree.For me S1 HL is the best,because he is still composed,well mannered,act kind of normal most of the times and only lets loose in private.He in the public mostly walks around like a well mannered gentleman who we know has another side.He wasnt this unhinged since the goal of the series to show us how he gets more and more unhinged.
I think in s1 he still tries his best despite where he came from and obviously he is doomed from the start because of the way they raised him,his doom was always inevitable.But here he still thinks he has Maeve,Stillwell and the company backs him up.He also seems more happy.
In s4 he does not care about any of this anymore,he just accepted that he is a godlike being and fuck all humans..
I feel like its because Homelander is more composed in season 1. Like he felt smarter in season 1 compared to other seasons
the only reason to still watch the show is homelander.
He keeps getting scarier and scarier in my opinion. Weird-scary.
S1 Homelander was before soldier boy, virus and everything else that could have harmed him, so he was viewed as invincible boogieman
Yeah whenever I watched Season 1 I think Homelander was the least scariest of them all… we eventually got to know he was the worst of them all but the majority of season 1 had me thinking Homelander was the only decent one of them all
Same bro
i actually had NIGHTMARES of homelander after i finished watching season 1. now the show has made him more of an idiot and it isn' t as scary
Dude he was so terrifying 😭
Homelander just continues to lose it more as the show continues. Its hard to create a villain that remains omnipresent and terrifying throughout its whole series run. He only gets more scary as the show goes on. Homelander is getting closer to that breaking point, and i fear for whats to come season 5
Finally someone said that
I agree with you. Homelander in first season very terrifying and everyone was scared of him
Agreed!
season 4 episode 4 finally unshackled him. he'll probably be the scariest from now on
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He just killed some unnamed npcs.
Season 1 Homelander had mystery about him. You slowly find out that he is not a good guy, but you are never too sure just how far his madness goes. The more we get to know him, the more we know just how much or little he can get away with. But it's season 1 where we are the most unsure about just how bad he really is.
Season 3 Homelander was the best imo and it was so refreshing to finally have some good written anti hero in modern media. Like his madness, feelings, all this horror he can do and shit that is boiling inside of him. I’m 27 yo and I’m scared of Homelander. And don’t fool yourself he’s strong as hell and in season 4 he finally starts doing what he want and maybe it’s looking funny for an outsider, but this dude is a maniac. Just imagine yourself with this man in a room. It’s terrifying.
S1 was great, but i think season 2-3 were the most scary, bc he hadnt lost it yet so whenever he was on screen with Maeve or whatever you were always like 'this dude can kill them all if he wants and they all know it'
Season 1 Homelander looked like a Young Physically Intimidating Captain America. He simply looked way Better back them.
That’s what he is, Isn’t he? A Top Tier Super Soldier. His Son on the Other Hand…
I feel the same 😉, When he lands Near Van to ask Frenchie what is he doing here?
Scariest shit when you're killing that guy's team member😶
It's because in season 1 they were writing Homelander.
In season 2 they were writing Homelander as the orange man.
In season 3 and 4, they're just writing the orange man.
Homelander’s fear factor changes throughout the show, at first he’s scary because he’s an ultrapowerful unknown, and then as we see how deranged he is he becomes a different kind of scary, because we realise he’s a lunatic man child with the strength of a god and laser vision
I think one of the things that's good about him in S1 is that because we don't know that much about him, his powers and his ability to do anything because of them is like walking on a knife's edge, whereas with the later seasons you really get the impression that people only like him, look up to and fear him because of his powers. Without them he'd be a complete fucking loser who's seen as almost entirely incompetent and doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about
I don’t know how we’re supposed to believe anyone in The Boys universe still thinks Homelander is a hero. Full wrath of national security would be called on him at this stage - it wouldn’t be down to covert ops teams
This is basically character development. Homelander has an evolution throughout the series as a person and as a villain. At first he was the strongest just because we didn’t know him, but now we do, and similarly to the real life we also know his weaknesses, his past, his personality, etc. We just know him better.
Once you deconstruct him in the next seasons he becomes scareier because he goes from being a capable killing machine to a fucking MESS.
season 1 homelander is scary because you dont know what hes capable of
season 3+ homelander is scary because you know EXACTLY what hes capable of
S1 Homelander uses his brain
S4 reacts on his emotions and becomes a ticking bomb
My biggest issue with the boys is that , when u think about it realistically, the crew of the boys should not in any way , and I mean absolutely any way , be a threat to homelander , he could descide in a whim to kill all of them and that's it , sn 1 didn't have this, he didn't know them and they didn't really know him , I've just tried to think back on why this characters are alive and I can't even find the justification
I think for HL to regain his intimidating aura someone has to die. Someone important.
Game of Thrones understood this. For there to feel like there's stakes there has to be stakes in the first place. We've gone 4 seasons without any main character dying. Only side characters really, and ones largely of unimportance in the grand scheme of things. Like Becca died but that didn't really accelerate the plot at all... Butcher was already at that point until he found Becca and he simply reverted. They couldn't even follow through with Maeve dying...
At times it really does feel like the plot is 2 steps forward, 1 step back, 1 step forward, 2 steps back. It feels like you're always just back to square one at the end of each season.
In my opinion he is less scary yeah because of the character development but he is still unpredictable and there’s an edge to every conversation, every action , but you get that feeling that if he didn’t have his powers suddenly he’d be crying in the corner
I think knowing him more makes him more scary lol
The scene in season 4 where Homelander couldn’t hit/see Hughie in the vents felt a little weird to me 🤔
Same… I hear some people are saying the vents were made out of zync (which homelander can’t see through). But even still, he could have super speed/flyed right up to Hughie.
Adding on to Antony Star not receiving any awards: I think people forget or don't know that he's actually from NZ and is putting on an American accent, making his performance all the better. Guy does a better accent than I do and I'm from the states XD
I feel like season 1 and 2 homelander are both scary, but in season 3 he was nerfed badly and lost his magic.
But in season 4, homelander is fucking scary…that scene where he found hughie based in just is sweat is crazy
Loved that scene
I was literally just talking about how he's not as scary as he once was. Season 1 Homelander was perfect. Season 2 and 3 Homelander were also pretty good.
I believe the polar opposite, season 1 homelander was the sanest in the entire show.
Agree to disagree
In a way, he was subtle or passive aggressive in s1 & had his sh*t together. But now he can't scheme bc his personalities are almost struggling to take over and react differently, especially the child/trandrum one that just wants to be left alone & have his (pleasurable or family connection) needs fullfilled. It would be cool to have the charismatic and scheming homie take over again.
People in the comments act like he cant be scary anymore because we know him but thats not true if they wanted to they could make him scary again.
I agree… he’s gonna be a demon in season 5
They already exposed his character too much. The only way he could become as scary again is if he stopped caring about approval
season 4 episode 4 really proved you wrong buddy💀You CANNOT predict what that man's next move is..
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I know im here late but now that season 4 episode 4 dropped, we got peak homelander back again!
dude i was searching this video in my history to say this. Episode 4 homelander's scenes were top notch scary
Gotta watch!
Bet! Can’t wait… will drop a review soon!