I have two possible explanations for the supposed rift between John and Paul: Paul may have been jealous of John and George's cooperation in writing the song and so he left; or else, the argument was due to the fact that Paul wanted to veto the song. From what I've read, he didn't liked She Said She Said very much.
Great analysis of this tune. The recent Get Back film was so fascinating, showing the creative dynamic in the group and the way the personalities interacted. It would be great to have similar footage at the Revolver sessions!
I think more reasons Paul wasn’t involved in most of the recording sessions for the song was the fact he didn’t take acid in the five days August 23rd to 28th 1965, staying in Zsa Zsa Gabors house in Los Angeles, John and George became very close during this time, Ringo took acid too but not as much as John and George. So when came the opportunity to record the song Paul still felt left out as he didn’t take acid until December 1965. Also George had his own arrangements put onto She Said She Said as the song had to be completed that same day, plus Paul left earlier as they had to get ready to go to Germany. So I think there was a definite rift between the guys around this time because of Paul’s reluctance to take acid!
I think you're spot on mate. Quite sad as well that Paul couldn't let George take any kind of control or credit even on 1 song. My god Paul was a powerhouse of writing recording playing but my goodness he was a control freak. I love Paul but I do believe he was fearful of George taking his limelight and credit and more evidenced by the unreleased tape of them discussing their career and where they might go after abbey road and Paul blatantly says he doesn't think George's songs have been any good ask the way through until something and here comes the sun. I mean did he not recognise the giant that was While My Guitar Gently Weeps? P.S. I'm enjoying your latest round of videos, good to see you back with a vengeance
Edit: Well I'm back from having a listen to She Said She Said and I have to say, In my opinion (not that it's worth much, but my name is Paul and I played bass professionally for around 30 years) that it's very likely not Paul playing bass on the track! You don't hear any of the fills that Paul is at this point sprinkling liberally throughout his tracks, rather this bass line stays very close to playing a root/fifth style of playing that would characterize a 'lesser' player, a player with great time and feel, but not the killer chops that Paul had by this time developed... So, maybe George? It's a good brain teaser, but remember, you quoted Paul in his own words saying this "was the only Beatle track that he didn't play on!" You can't really argue with that?
I definitely think it's Harrison on bass. I also believe that it should have been credited to Lennon/ Harrison. Finally George spoke up and McCartney couldn't take it. Even back in the day I had always wondered why I didn't hear McCartney at the fade out of the song but definitely did hear George. You did a fantastic job gathering up all this information. I think now we can put this one to rest...... But I somehow doubt it 😉
Great video!! I like your referencing of different articles on "She Said She Said". It's obvious that Paul was on a very early take of the song, as you can clearly here his voice in the chatter. However, i firmly believe that he left early in the session. I firmly believe that it is George playing bass on the released recording. It does not sound like Paul's bass work to me. And why would Paul say he didn't play bass - when he clearly does not normally give credit to someone else playing his parts (think Wings). One thing i think you're spot on about is George taking control of the session, when John was a bit lost with what he wanted. I think this song is clearly a 50/50 George & John composition - & should have been credited "Lennon/Harrison".
Solid theory. I think Paul really didn't like the 'response' guitar licks George would insert mimicking the vocal line. He vetoed them in Hey Jude and George does them in She Said as well. If only we had some 'Get Back' style session footage!
I heard somewhere the fight was actually during the mixing rather than the recording. Don't remember where, though. Good connecting the dots on what led to the squabble, either way.
Brian, I read years ago, somewhere there is an Interview where Paul give more in dept depiction. The problem was that the mix of the album was done. And John said there was space for one more song on side one. Paul said no way, the album is finished, the work is done. John said he and George Will record a last song that John had anyway, then Paul said fxxx off and left.
Yet another great presentation Brian! Why John actually wrote "She Said She Said" is also interesting as the recording of it. The Beatles were in LA with the Byrds and Peter Fonda. Peter kept saying "I know what it's like to be dead" as his heart stopped on the operating table for a while during surgery. John was getting freaked out and he replied, "you're making me feel like I've never been born."
There used to be rumors that the party where this event occurred inspired this song, took place at 10050 Cielo Drive, then being Terry Melchers residence, where the Manson murders later took place. However, I think that story is heavily disputed. Yet it's an interesting urban myth.
You are right about the Get Back sessions, in the book that was sold separately that conversation is on page 104 of the book. They had been talking about the way Paul wanted to control the way some songs were arranged. John said my only chance was to let George take over. Very interesting topic and video. Thanks for sharing this info. Take care!
great point! I kind of forgot that book even existed haha. i read/looked at it when it came out and it's stayed on the shelf ever since. might be time to check it out again. thanks for the comment!
I like your commentaries. It probably was pretty much as you and the books you quoted from describe. I agree that it was no big deal that they occasionally fought. It wasn't until the "White Album" sessions that they truly got bitter toward each other. Interesting off-topic note: Part of the "Paul is dead" conspiracy theory is based on Paul leaving a session in anger. The main fault in that story is that the date of November 9 is usually given. After the final "Revolver" session in mid-June, 1966, the Beatles did not go into the studio again until late November (about the 24th), so that whole story is off and untrue.
Agree totally, and it is a fissure in the break down of the chemistry in the band, the song is credited as a Lennon-Mccartney but might have been more artistically honest to have a Lennon-Harrison credit and I have wondered if George was put off by the drama of who gets credit and the implicit dishonesty of the assigned credit. We have several examples of how well George and John worked together from George helping rationalize the arrangement of Instant Karma, which I suspect he did alot for the Beatles as well, he helped John arrange the song Oh My Love on Imagine( also Give Me Some Truth bears a close resemblance to a George song Maureen from the Get Back era as well as playing eventually a superb slide guitar on the final product. One wonders whether George had a hand in that arrangement also, no wonder George withdrew for a period. Dude put up with a lot a BS from both John and Paul. He also recognized the benefits of their partnerships in a way that the other two did'nt. Interesting topic and great song, first Heavy Metal song?.....just kidding, no such thing as a first in popular music is there? It's all stylized variations of the same impulse in a way, right?
@@BrianBringelson that’s just one source. We don’t know if the final track really does have Paul’s playing or not. We also don’t know if there’s any bass overdubs either.
@@BeAGoodDoga we definitely do know no bass overdubs were added after the backing track. Only organ bass notes were added. That’s confirmed by the original 4 track master tape.
Good work Brian. I've heard 99% of all of this and read the same things before. The one odd thing is in the movie, they must've edited that conversation with the mic in the flower pot.. because they don't mention "She Said She Said" in the sentence you are referencing but it is in the book. i.e. We know Paul was at the session and apparently having what appears to be a good time on the backing track. At some point he likely added his two cents to the arrangement or lyrics and John probably got pissed off about any change that was already worked out by him and George and likely had some back and forth exchanges about it and and Paul finally said "fine... f*** you, I've already played my bass part" and left. And John said, "fine we'll finish it". From the backing track that Paul is recorded on , the bass doesn't sound all that different than the final mix so I too believe he played on it. His recollection that he didn't play on it is likely clouded from the argument. It is very, very unlikely at that late stage of the recording (all in 1 night btw) that George is going to hop on a jazz bass and learn / play the song. Sure, if he had days to work on it but not on the same night. I'm sure they used what Paul already played.
Great analysis. Also one of my favorites. In addition to Paul being jealous of the developing Harrrison/Lennon partnership, I think he also didn’t like the trippy direction of the song as he was the only Beatle who didn’t do acid at the party where Peter Fonda inspired the song by sharing his shotgun wound and saying “I know what it’s like to be dead.”
Great video and fascinating insight! I wonder if you'd be interested in doing a video about if the White album was only one disc LP and which songs would be on them? Anyways thanks for all your great Beatles content!
@@MisterBiscuitsOfficial it turns out they are the exact same. What I was hearing originally was a difference between the vinyl mastering and CD/Digital mastering. The vinyl mastering kind of masked the intense guitar separation heard on the CD. But they are identical
Great detective work journeying through 5 separate points of research - - No, there's 6 references! 1) REVOLVER SD book. 2) REVOLVER SD audio take. 3) Anthology book. 4) 'Many Years From Now' book. 5) 'Beatles Recording Ref Manual Vol2' book. 6) GET BACK doc - - to uncover that happening. It's the best type of research that joins isolated sources together to reconstruct the past like that. Beatles Egyptology (plus a cat deity) blowing the dust off a forgotten time and place. Will you do more of these narratives converging a trail from different sources? It's a series in itself. PM maybe worried the exclusive Lennon-McCartney Songbook might be breached by any hint of Lennon-Harrison. Ever since 1963 (?) backstage interview, where all 4 were asked the usual what-are-you-gonna-do-when-the-bubble-bursts? PM starts to answer with a phrase he's often used ever since: "John and I..." (will always continue writing together). Whenever I hear that interview I think, Wow, if GH heard that answer he's bound to see his future cut adrift without the financial float of their royalties, he and Ringo outsiders in the group-within-a-group. I think yr right. 'She Said She Said' spat may show PM being proprietorial of his 50-50 stake in Lennon-McCartney. And GH very aware of being kept as an outsider in that dynamic - - ever since PM and JL went for a Woolton walk around 1960 and decided not to include GH in their writing credits. No wonder GH was the most money-minded of the 4. Those are 2 fuses not often mentioned in all the fusewire leading to the Beatles split - - an early Woolton walk and a 'She Said She Said' spat 6 years later that exposed GH's eternal malcontent with 'his place' within the group envisioned by PM. The only place that dynamic wouldn't have potential to disrupt would be on stage - - and they were about to quit the stage REVOLVER always feels like a sunny album even more optimistic about the '60s than PEPPER...but the backstory in that last recording now hints at a bad vibe never resolved, and that I never suspected because the song itself is tremendous. All this before YO showed up. (After that, taking a back seat to Lennon-McCartney being bad enough, when YO jumped to the front of the bus with JL relegating GH 3 seats back now was just too much. YO's bite radius taken out of GH's chocolate digestive biscuit really took the biscuit. Unresolved dynamics keep coming back in different formations. LET IT BE: when GH re-enacted PM's walkout from 'She Said She Said', YO recreated GH's role sat on his cushion leading that god-awful jam session. 'She Said She Said' all over again only now she was the one saying it.)
Pity PM couldn't loosen up on 'She Said She Said' and let GH come forward and renegotiate Lennon-McCartney agreement to let each of them collaborate with GH as partner instead. That would have negated one strand of the rift emerging on LET IT BE. And passive-aggressive and intransigent though it sounds, I can understand GH's truculence around 1996 when an interviewer mentioned to GH that PM now said he'd like to collaborate on songwriting with GH. GH's sarky reply (UK for 'snarky', derivation = 'sarcastic') was something like, Yeah, it only took him 30 years to get around to it. The post-Beatle partnership never happened and GH never put his knack for memorable riffs on a PM number. That 'She Said She Said' spat never was resolved.
I think your basically right. Being the good friends that they were, I think PAUL was picked on by not doing LSD and George and John working on the song together equals PAUL getting pissed and leaving. Thanks for the video. 👍
John helped George with Taxman and Piggies; I believe. Shame they didn't do more together. Paul often comes off as a very unlikeable egomaniac. George played bass on a few White albums tracks, so he was certainly a competent bass player. Andrew from Parlogram notated there are some mistakes in the Revolver book. They forgot to give George guitar credit on Rain, and there are a few other things as well. She Said is one of my favorite Beatle songs. Cool video, Brian
Paul definitely had an ego, but he also deserves credit for his interest and help provided to several of George’s songs: I want to tell you, the lead guitar in Taxman, the bass in Something, even their very last session ever for I Me Mine. Except for She Said, She Said John had the reputation of not being too helpful in George’s songs.
Brian, I have watched the Beatles Anthology DVDs probably about 4 times over the years and really enjoyed them but never read the book, and as you recommended the book here I just wonder is it much different to the DVDs or is it much the same. I suppose mainly it's the size of the book that keeps me away from it as I'm not a fan of Coffee table books. Should I give it a go.
Oh man, it's amazing and has SO MUCH more than the Anthology. As great as the documentary is, I think I enjoy the book a bit more. It's definitely worth picking up. You can find a used copy for $10 at most.
They were arguing that Paul couldn't understand the song since he didn't experience the same trip John, George, and Ringo did in LA. John says it somewhere, so does George. John said he was picking fun at Paul. This is what lead to Paul finally taking acid, giving us Sgt Pepper
Great video! She Said She Said is one of my favourite songs as well and had always been curious about what happened during the sessions. Found it mildly interesting that Paul quickly mentions the song near the end of this interview from August 1980: ruclips.net/video/Dv1sGfl56Bk/видео.htmlsi=T6t8t1rCAWwQqbKE
I can identify with Paul wholeheartedly. I've just been thrown out of a band that I was a co-founder of with one other person. Long story, but I quit the band because I didn't feel the guitarist was cutting it and I felt like it was a waste of time. Then I find that some members of the band had already hatched a plan to form a new band which no-one told me about because they didn't want me in it for some reason. They were just waiting for me to quit so they could start it - with this guitarist - with a clear conscience. I can identify with Paul if he felt that someone else, even George, was muscling in on his territory. Being in a band is hard, even for The Beatles, because you can only really trust yourself but you've got to spend your whole life forgiving others for dumping on you. What a life. x
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I share your fascination with this recording. Great job breaking it down.
I have two possible explanations for the supposed rift between John and Paul: Paul may have been jealous of John and George's cooperation in writing the song and so he left; or else, the argument was due to the fact that Paul wanted to veto the song. From what I've read, he didn't liked She Said She Said very much.
Great analysis of this tune. The recent Get Back film was so fascinating, showing the creative dynamic in the group and the way the personalities interacted. It would be great to have similar footage at the Revolver sessions!
I think more reasons Paul wasn’t involved in most of the recording sessions for the song was the fact he didn’t take acid in the five days August 23rd to 28th 1965, staying in Zsa Zsa Gabors house in Los Angeles, John and George became very close during this time, Ringo took acid too but not as much as John and George. So when came the opportunity to record the song Paul still felt left out as he didn’t take acid until December 1965. Also George had his own arrangements put onto She Said She Said as the song had to be completed that same day, plus Paul left earlier as they had to get ready to go to Germany. So I think there was a definite rift between the guys around this time because of Paul’s reluctance to take acid!
I think you're spot on mate. Quite sad as well that Paul couldn't let George take any kind of control or credit even on 1 song. My god Paul was a powerhouse of writing recording playing but my goodness he was a control freak. I love Paul but I do believe he was fearful of George taking his limelight and credit and more evidenced by the unreleased tape of them discussing their career and where they might go after abbey road and Paul blatantly says he doesn't think George's songs have been any good ask the way through until something and here comes the sun. I mean did he not recognise the giant that was While My Guitar Gently Weeps? P.S. I'm enjoying your latest round of videos, good to see you back with a vengeance
Makes me wish I'd been a fly on the wall during the CRY FOR A SHADOW session. Maybe Paul never got over that.
Edit: Well I'm back from having a listen to She Said She Said and I have to say, In my opinion (not that it's worth much, but my name is Paul and I played bass professionally for around 30 years) that it's very likely not Paul playing bass on the track! You don't hear any of the fills that Paul is at this point sprinkling liberally throughout his tracks, rather this bass line stays very close to playing a root/fifth style of playing that would characterize a 'lesser' player, a player with great time and feel, but not the killer chops that Paul had by this time developed... So, maybe George? It's a good brain teaser, but remember, you quoted Paul in his own words saying this "was the only Beatle track that he didn't play on!" You can't really argue with that?
Your theory makes complete sense! Makes much better sense than "We must've had a barney or something"
I've been wondering about this for years and this makes the most sense... thanks for posting this!
I definitely think it's Harrison on bass. I also believe that it should have been credited to Lennon/ Harrison. Finally George spoke up and McCartney couldn't take it. Even back in the day I had always wondered why I didn't hear McCartney at the fade out of the song but definitely did hear George. You did a fantastic job gathering up all this information. I think now we can put this one to rest...... But I somehow doubt it 😉
Great video!! I like your referencing of different articles on "She Said She Said". It's obvious that Paul was on a very early take of the song, as you can clearly here his voice in the chatter. However, i firmly believe that he left early in the session. I firmly believe that it is George playing bass on the released recording. It does not sound like Paul's bass work to me. And why would Paul say he didn't play bass - when he clearly does not normally give credit to someone else playing his parts (think Wings). One thing i think you're spot on about is George taking control of the session, when John was a bit lost with what he wanted. I think this song is clearly a 50/50 George & John composition - & should have been credited "Lennon/Harrison".
Solid theory. I think Paul really didn't like the 'response' guitar licks George would insert mimicking the vocal line. He vetoed them in Hey Jude and George does them in She Said as well. If only we had some 'Get Back' style session footage!
I heard somewhere the fight was actually during the mixing rather than the recording. Don't remember where, though. Good connecting the dots on what led to the squabble, either way.
How you can pluck a small moment like this and make it interesting is really great! I always learn a lot from your videos
Brian, I read years ago, somewhere there is an Interview where Paul give more in dept depiction. The problem was that the mix of the album was done. And John said there was space for one more song on side one. Paul said no way, the album is finished, the work is done. John said he and George Will record a last song that John had anyway, then Paul said fxxx off and left.
Great vid. In fact have been enjoying all your vids lately.
Yet another great presentation Brian! Why John actually wrote "She Said She Said" is also interesting as the recording of it. The Beatles were in LA with the Byrds and Peter Fonda. Peter kept saying "I know what it's like to be dead" as his heart stopped on the operating table for a while during surgery. John was getting freaked out and he replied, "you're making me feel like I've never been born."
I believe he also said: "who put sl that s**t in your head"
@@juan.orduz.musicoYou're right! I have read that he said that too.
There used to be rumors that the party where this event occurred inspired this song, took place at 10050 Cielo Drive, then being Terry Melchers residence, where the Manson murders later took place. However, I think that story is heavily disputed. Yet it's an interesting urban myth.
You are right about the Get Back sessions, in the book that was sold separately that conversation is on page 104 of the book. They had been talking about the way Paul wanted to control the way some songs were arranged. John said my only chance was to let George take over. Very interesting topic and video. Thanks for sharing this info. Take care!
great point! I kind of forgot that book even existed haha. i read/looked at it when it came out and it's stayed on the shelf ever since. might be time to check it out again. thanks for the comment!
Very nicely researched and brought together - thank you, that was a lot of fun to watch 🎉.
I like your commentaries. It probably was pretty much as you and the books you quoted from describe. I agree that it was no big deal that they occasionally fought. It wasn't until the "White Album" sessions that they truly got bitter toward each other. Interesting off-topic note: Part of the "Paul is dead" conspiracy theory is based on Paul leaving a session in anger. The main fault in that story is that the date of November 9 is usually given. After the final "Revolver" session in mid-June, 1966, the Beatles did not go into the studio again until late November (about the 24th), so that whole story is off and untrue.
Agree totally, and it is a fissure in the break down of the chemistry in the band, the song is credited as a Lennon-Mccartney but might have been more artistically honest to have a Lennon-Harrison credit and I have wondered if George was put off by the drama of who gets credit and the implicit dishonesty of the assigned credit. We have several examples of how well George and John worked together from George helping rationalize the arrangement of Instant Karma, which I suspect he did alot for the Beatles as well, he helped John arrange the song Oh My Love on Imagine( also Give Me Some Truth bears a close resemblance to a George song Maureen from the Get Back era as well as playing eventually a superb slide guitar on the final product. One wonders whether George had a hand in that arrangement also, no wonder George withdrew for a period. Dude put up with a lot a BS from both John and Paul. He also recognized the benefits of their partnerships in a way that the other two did'nt. Interesting topic and great song, first Heavy Metal song?.....just kidding, no such thing as a first in popular music is there? It's all stylized variations of the same impulse in a way, right?
This sounds like a video topic for “You Can’t Unhear This”.
well it currently is a topic here.
@@BrianBringelson true. But I’m sure it’d be interesting for sure to know who’s really playing bass.
@@BeAGoodDoga haha true, but I think we can almost certainly confirm now that Paul is playing bass.
@@BrianBringelson that’s just one source. We don’t know if the final track really does have Paul’s playing or not. We also don’t know if there’s any bass overdubs either.
@@BeAGoodDoga we definitely do know no bass overdubs were added after the backing track. Only organ bass notes were added. That’s confirmed by the original 4 track master tape.
Good work Brian. I've heard 99% of all of this and read the same things before. The one odd thing is in the movie, they must've edited that conversation with the mic in the flower pot.. because they don't mention "She Said She Said" in the sentence you are referencing but it is in the book. i.e. We know Paul was at the session and apparently having what appears to be a good time on the backing track. At some point he likely added his two cents to the arrangement or lyrics and John probably got pissed off about any change that was already worked out by him and George and likely had some back and forth exchanges about it and and Paul finally said "fine... f*** you, I've already played my bass part" and left. And John said, "fine we'll finish it". From the backing track that Paul is recorded on , the bass doesn't sound all that different than the final mix so I too believe he played on it. His recollection that he didn't play on it is likely clouded from the argument. It is very, very unlikely at that late stage of the recording (all in 1 night btw) that George is going to hop on a jazz bass and learn / play the song. Sure, if he had days to work on it but not on the same night. I'm sure they used what Paul already played.
Great analysis. Also one of my favorites. In addition to Paul being jealous of the developing Harrrison/Lennon partnership, I think he also didn’t like the trippy direction of the song as he was the only Beatle who didn’t do acid at the party where Peter Fonda inspired the song by sharing his shotgun wound and saying “I know what it’s like to be dead.”
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Great video and fascinating insight! I wonder if you'd be interested in doing a video about if the White album was only one disc LP and which songs would be on them? Anyways thanks for all your great Beatles content!
good idea! might just do that
What is more mysterious about SHE SAID SHE SAID is why did they/GILES have different mixes on SPOTIFY SUPER DELUXE then the vinyl SUPER DELUXE BOX???
I heard about this sorta. What are the differences?
@@MisterBiscuitsOfficial it turns out they are the exact same. What I was hearing originally was a difference between the vinyl mastering and CD/Digital mastering. The vinyl mastering kind of masked the intense guitar separation heard on the CD. But they are identical
@@BrianBringelson Ahhh gotcha lol
Great detective work journeying through 5 separate points of research - - No, there's 6 references! 1) REVOLVER SD book. 2) REVOLVER SD audio take. 3) Anthology book. 4) 'Many Years From Now' book. 5) 'Beatles Recording Ref Manual Vol2' book. 6) GET BACK doc - - to uncover that happening. It's the best type of research that joins isolated sources together to reconstruct the past like that. Beatles Egyptology (plus a cat deity) blowing the dust off a forgotten time and place. Will you do more of these narratives converging a trail from different sources? It's a series in itself.
PM maybe worried the exclusive Lennon-McCartney Songbook might be breached by any hint of Lennon-Harrison. Ever since 1963 (?) backstage interview, where all 4 were asked the usual what-are-you-gonna-do-when-the-bubble-bursts? PM starts to answer with a phrase he's often used ever since: "John and I..." (will always continue writing together). Whenever I hear that interview I think, Wow, if GH heard that answer he's bound to see his future cut adrift without the financial float of their royalties, he and Ringo outsiders in the group-within-a-group.
I think yr right. 'She Said She Said' spat may show PM being proprietorial of his 50-50 stake in Lennon-McCartney. And GH very aware of being kept as an outsider in that dynamic - - ever since PM and JL went for a Woolton walk around 1960 and decided not to include GH in their writing credits. No wonder GH was the most money-minded of the 4.
Those are 2 fuses not often mentioned in all the fusewire leading to the Beatles split - - an early Woolton walk and a 'She Said She Said' spat 6 years later that exposed GH's eternal malcontent with 'his place' within the group envisioned by PM. The only place that dynamic wouldn't have potential to disrupt would be on stage - - and they were about to quit the stage
REVOLVER always feels like a sunny album even more optimistic about the '60s than PEPPER...but the backstory in that last recording now hints at a bad vibe never resolved, and that I never suspected because the song itself is tremendous. All this before YO showed up.
(After that, taking a back seat to Lennon-McCartney being bad enough, when YO jumped to the front of the bus with JL relegating GH 3 seats back now was just too much. YO's bite radius taken out of GH's chocolate digestive biscuit really took the biscuit. Unresolved dynamics keep coming back in different formations. LET IT BE: when GH re-enacted PM's walkout from 'She Said She Said', YO recreated GH's role sat on his cushion leading that god-awful jam session. 'She Said She Said' all over again only now she was the one saying it.)
Pity PM couldn't loosen up on 'She Said She Said' and let GH come forward and renegotiate Lennon-McCartney agreement to let each of them collaborate with GH as partner instead. That would have negated one strand of the rift emerging on LET IT BE. And passive-aggressive and intransigent though it sounds, I can understand GH's truculence around 1996 when an interviewer mentioned to GH that PM now said he'd like to collaborate on songwriting with GH. GH's sarky reply (UK for 'snarky', derivation = 'sarcastic') was something like, Yeah, it only took him 30 years to get around to it. The post-Beatle partnership never happened and GH never put his knack for memorable riffs on a PM number. That 'She Said She Said' spat never was resolved.
I think your basically right. Being the good friends that they were, I think PAUL was picked on by not doing LSD and George and John working on the song together equals PAUL getting pissed and leaving. Thanks for the video. 👍
John helped George with Taxman and Piggies; I believe. Shame they didn't do more together. Paul often comes off as a very unlikeable egomaniac. George played bass on a few White albums tracks, so he was certainly a competent bass player. Andrew from Parlogram notated there are some mistakes in the Revolver book. They forgot to give George guitar credit on Rain, and there are a few other things as well. She Said is one of my favorite Beatle songs. Cool video, Brian
Paul definitely had an ego, but he also deserves credit for his interest and help provided to several of George’s songs: I want to tell you, the lead guitar in Taxman, the bass in Something, even their very last session ever for I Me Mine. Except for She Said, She Said John had the reputation of not being too helpful in George’s songs.
Actually Paul help George with guitar lick / solo because George was having trouble getting it down.
Brian, I have watched the Beatles Anthology DVDs probably about 4 times over the years and really enjoyed them but never read the book, and as you recommended the book here I just wonder is it much different to the DVDs or is it much the same. I suppose mainly it's the size of the book that keeps me away from it as I'm not a fan of Coffee table books. Should I give it a go.
Oh man, it's amazing and has SO MUCH more than the Anthology. As great as the documentary is, I think I enjoy the book a bit more. It's definitely worth picking up. You can find a used copy for $10 at most.
Thanks Brian, just ordered it for €12 well pleased.
0:55,…..”was one of the only Beatle records I’d never play on”…..so McCartney wasn’t even on this album?? Is this accurate?
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They were arguing that Paul couldn't understand the song since he didn't experience the same trip John, George, and Ringo did in LA. John says it somewhere, so does George. John said he was picking fun at Paul. This is what lead to Paul finally taking acid, giving us Sgt Pepper
Great video! She Said She Said is one of my favourite songs as well and had always been curious about what happened during the sessions.
Found it mildly interesting that Paul quickly mentions the song near the end of this interview from August 1980: ruclips.net/video/Dv1sGfl56Bk/видео.htmlsi=T6t8t1rCAWwQqbKE
How dare you cut the cat out. lol
I can identify with Paul wholeheartedly. I've just been thrown out of a band that I was a co-founder of with one other person. Long story, but I quit the band because I didn't feel the guitarist was cutting it and I felt like it was a waste of time. Then I find that some members of the band had already hatched a plan to form a new band which no-one told me about because they didn't want me in it for some reason. They were just waiting for me to quit so they could start it - with this guitarist - with a clear conscience. I can identify with Paul if he felt that someone else, even George, was muscling in on his territory. Being in a band is hard, even for The Beatles, because you can only really trust yourself but you've got to spend your whole life forgiving others for dumping on you. What a life. x
First there is a cat then there is no cat but there is
I’ve never been keen on it, as a song. Paul was right, as usual. lyrically clunky imo.