2024 Le Mans Balance of Performance Analysis

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  • @musculusiv4172
    @musculusiv4172 5 месяцев назад +80

    Changes after quali would be outrageous even for FIA standards

    • @ruzgarakgul2051
      @ruzgarakgul2051 5 месяцев назад +15

      ACO did it in 2022 lol

    • @tyronnezx
      @tyronnezx 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@ruzgarakgul2051and 2023

    • @musculusiv4172
      @musculusiv4172 5 месяцев назад +11

      @@ruzgarakgul2051 That's insane 💀
      For me, even what they did last year was over the line

    • @jingorooroad2559
      @jingorooroad2559 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@musculusiv4172 Completely agreed.

    • @unclebanga5976
      @unclebanga5976 5 месяцев назад

      I doubt it'd be before qualy, I'd say it'd be before the opening practise session. The test day definitely should see changes. Especially for Peugeot imo.

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks 5 месяцев назад +13

    Thank you for covering BOP and keeping git simple enough to understand. Nice video. Keep up the good work.

  • @williamford9564
    @williamford9564 5 месяцев назад +18

    That Maximum Stint Energy level may be a big disadvantage for Ferrari. The energy conservation and its effect on race pace during stints taken over 30 odd stints during the race could be critical as the race goes on.

    • @0xym0re82
      @0xym0re82 5 месяцев назад

      What is maximum Stint energy ?

    • @williamford9564
      @williamford9564 5 месяцев назад

      @@0xym0re82 It is energy used in “mega joules” from a virtual tank, a combination of fuel used by the internal combustion engine and torque used by the hybrid system. Maybe others who are advanced in understanding race technology can go into more details. From what I understand the WEC for Balance of Performance will adjust the numbers for each car at each track to theoretically make the cars equal in lap times.

  • @fqeagles21
    @fqeagles21 5 месяцев назад +39

    At LM a power cut is the worst possible things tha can happen Poor Ferrari Peugeot and Lambo!!

    • @joaquingonzalez834
      @joaquingonzalez834 5 месяцев назад +2

      though if it makes it any better, everyone got a weight reduction (not everyone, but they are closer in terms of weight)

    • @fqeagles21
      @fqeagles21 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@joaquingonzalez834 but top speed Is crucial at LM not much in IMOLA

    • @joaquingonzalez834
      @joaquingonzalez834 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@fqeagles21a weight break helps a lot with top speed too, y'know

    • @fqeagles21
      @fqeagles21 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@joaquingonzalez834 and power cuts slows a lot too

    • @joaquingonzalez834
      @joaquingonzalez834 5 месяцев назад +6

      ​​​​@@fqeagles21seeing as lamborghini has a high power output, a power cut would theoretically make it more "balanced"
      of course, the same cannot be said for ferrari or peugeot, which i do agree is not a good thing for them
      now i'm starting to realize my points weren't that strong, though if they wanted to give those cars a lower power output, you'd expect them to eliminate the power gain, although these two cars are 4wd hybrids, so we'll see how it plays out

  • @RichyH1000
    @RichyH1000 5 месяцев назад +9

    Above 250km/h the Ferrari will be up to 18bhp down on the Toyota. It’ll be like throwing a parachute out the back…

  • @haryosoo
    @haryosoo 5 месяцев назад +29

    It's funny how the antagonist switched from Toyota to Porsche lol

    • @HunchoCOL
      @HunchoCOL 5 месяцев назад

      Fr

    • @johnli8471
      @johnli8471 5 месяцев назад +1

      it took porsche half a season of success to get the same level of hatred that Toyota spent years of success did. porsche really is the goat of endurance racing, even winning in the "getting hated" class😂. even though it should be more of a fia issue if you ever argue with bop, them people man smh🤦‍♂️

  • @sergiomolina3159
    @sergiomolina3159 5 месяцев назад +7

    All this changes benefits Porsche cars.

  • @ethanapalis2932
    @ethanapalis2932 5 месяцев назад +15

    What's the purpose of squeezing out performance/making upgrades if you're just going to get BOPed in the end?

    • @GTRain
      @GTRain  5 месяцев назад +26

      Reliability and drivability to name a couple. In theory, BoP is supposed to balance the car’s maximum theoretical performance. So if you’re behind the other manufacturers, it’s ideally up to you to extract more performance out of the car. Whether or not they’re actually achieving that properly is up for debate.

    • @julianturberfield7101
      @julianturberfield7101 5 месяцев назад +14

      IMSA showed why. Acuras had incredible suspension on bumpy street circuits, Mazdas were great on smooth, top-end heavy tracks, the Caddys were dominant on acceleration heavy tracks like Long Beach and the Nissans were incredible when temps went down in the night. Unfortunately the FIA seem massively worse than IMSA when it comes to BOP.

    • @Helios_1ne
      @Helios_1ne 5 месяцев назад +5

      There is A LOT more to a car being fast than maximum power/minimum weight. Where is the weight distributed? How good is the power curve? How is the aero? How does this all affect the tires? That’s all before things like reliability/drivability. The Peugeot and Porsche have very fast race pace, but suffer from being difficult to do on a consistent basis. The Yota and Ferrari are far more drivable, even if not being quite as quick round the track under ideal conditions

    • @jingorooroad2559
      @jingorooroad2559 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@GTRain or simply to control the outcome of the race ? We saw it last year already.

    • @md244-w6v
      @md244-w6v 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@GTRainthis exactly, I love WEC but the madness & stupid conspiracies centred around BoP is tiring. Always the same types of comments made by people who literally have made no real attempt at understanding the thing they're criticising..

  • @benaskew9566
    @benaskew9566 5 месяцев назад +3

    Brilliant video and even more so the rundown thank you!

  • @VUO4E
    @VUO4E 5 месяцев назад +3

    Porsche BOP seems to escape earthly logic. There's no way you could tell they're in the lead from this spreadsheet. btw: timelines (events) going from right to left is a bit odd....

  • @carstenschroder7054
    @carstenschroder7054 5 месяцев назад +3

    Porsche invested soo much, they should have insisted to get 911 MJ/Stint 😂

  • @carlosbueno6252
    @carlosbueno6252 5 месяцев назад

    With the initial video sound track the only thing I could think was:
    "BOP is very fair.... or is it?"

  • @dylankos4438
    @dylankos4438 5 месяцев назад +12

    what do they have against the Peugeot?

    • @falinestixiaolong9691
      @falinestixiaolong9691 5 месяцев назад +10

      New car mid season = BoP penalty until more data is collected.

    • @gamegod7856
      @gamegod7856 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@falinestixiaolong9691 Because that is what FIA did to Ferrari with an outrgeaous favourable BOP at le Mans, so unfair that they easily won on 1st try!

    • @falinestixiaolong9691
      @falinestixiaolong9691 5 месяцев назад +9

      @@gamegod7856 Ferrari didn't change their car mid season so that is entirely unrelevant to the discussion here.

  • @thedope_jackalope2203
    @thedope_jackalope2203 5 месяцев назад +19

    Lambo a newcomer gets shafted after 250kmh, as does Ferrari and Peugeot! Seems like they want Porsche to win it this year. Where do they get their sim info, LMU? And I’m pretty sure Peugeot scared the fía and aco in Qatar were they were about to win had they not had issues at the end. Won’t be surprised if by the end of next year manufacturers start leaving the category

    • @Mr.Waffullz
      @Mr.Waffullz 5 месяцев назад +8

      Yeah seems like Porsche winning grabs the headlines. They've had favorable bop in both series all year.

    • @Maenfy
      @Maenfy 5 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@Mr.Waffullz Well wouldn't a surprise Peugeot victory, in France, create even bigger headlines?

    • @Mr.Waffullz
      @Mr.Waffullz 5 месяцев назад

      @@Maenfy oh course! I wanna see them and Alpine in the mix.

    • @nuztuz903
      @nuztuz903 5 месяцев назад +1

      newer cars get worse bop. it happens in gt's also

    • @Dontmakemehiddenpwease-uh7go
      @Dontmakemehiddenpwease-uh7go 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@Mr.Waffullz Exactly, last year having "Ferrari wins Le Mans" was such a big headline and it grabbed everyone's attention, especially F1 fans. To quote GT Rain from his podcast "Ferrari winning Le Mans was a huge win for sportscar racing". Now it's seems they are doing the same this year with Porsche. Which is a shame.

  • @ego4551
    @ego4551 5 месяцев назад +21

    They did Peugeot dirty again

    • @with_the_ghosts5729
      @with_the_ghosts5729 5 месяцев назад +7

      At this point it seems like there's intention there because it's becoming ridiculous. Their new car hasn't had a fair chance

    • @falinestixiaolong9691
      @falinestixiaolong9691 5 месяцев назад +5

      They are hit hard because they changed their car mid season.

    • @nuztuz903
      @nuztuz903 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@with_the_ghosts5729 it's gonna get hit hard all year until next year when they have a better understanding of what it's capable of. that's what happens to new cars

    • @davieboywassup
      @davieboywassup 5 месяцев назад

      @@nuztuz903they are threatening to leave next year.

  • @KompressorV6
    @KompressorV6 5 месяцев назад +1

    Honestly, the Peugeot will be muuuuch lighter than it's ever been since the wing placement. They will be MORE competitive than they were @Imola and @Spa IMO. Then again that's not saying much. Wouldn't be surprised to see Alpine and Peugeot all of a sudden be a bit quicker and competitive.
    Isotta should be much quicker too, even with the less experienced drivers.

  • @helmetculture
    @helmetculture 5 месяцев назад +6

    It's a minimum weight not a maximum weight. You said if they go through tech over this weight=DQ
    Not true

    • @GTRain
      @GTRain  5 месяцев назад +2

      Good catch. Meant to say under.

  • @ponanikhoza1934
    @ponanikhoza1934 5 месяцев назад +1

    There is more to endurance racing than raw speed, power etc.

  • @Lothringer54_
    @Lothringer54_ 5 месяцев назад +35

    Congrats Porsche for another well desserved win...

    • @tyronnezx
      @tyronnezx 5 месяцев назад +12

      Lol. Fr. Rigged again to the highest bidder

    • @ashenone3251
      @ashenone3251 5 месяцев назад +7

      Anything can happen it's a 24h race but i would happily take porsche victory

    • @tyronnezx
      @tyronnezx 5 месяцев назад +16

      @@ashenone3251 i wont. Just like last year's rigged Ferrari win. Im all for people earning it on merit. How can anyone brag about a cheated win?

    • @JacksRacingProjects
      @JacksRacingProjects 5 месяцев назад +3

      i mean showing up with the most cars in the class, and they now have more miles than any other car in hypercar. it is deserved. the porsche 963 now has triple the race miles of the gr010

    • @jingorooroad2559
      @jingorooroad2559 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@JacksRacingProjects That's not normal, it should have a limitation about the numbers of cars allowed. Because that's how in the past porsche won so much titles at LeMans, because the field was full of porsche. It was unreasonable ratios, which gave porsche much probabilities to won compare to any other brands. They're starting to repeat the cheating supported by the FIA and ACO.

  • @artificiiall
    @artificiiall 5 месяцев назад +3

    great vid! just the camera is way too small. maybe put the title at the bottom next time?

  • @LJW1912
    @LJW1912 5 месяцев назад +19

    I don't understand why Porsche are allowed to be light with most energy when a Porsche won at Spa

    • @deyanbonchev663
      @deyanbonchev663 5 месяцев назад

      Not only that - Ferrari are handicaped by the power over 250 km/h(their main advantage) and kicked the hardest with the MJ per stint.

    • @tfkrazvan
      @tfkrazvan 5 месяцев назад +16

      Because it's their year. FIA it's controlling who is wining.

    • @Dontmakemehiddenpwease-uh7go
      @Dontmakemehiddenpwease-uh7go 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@tfkrazvan Yup, last year at Le Mans it was Ferrari, this year it's Porsche. Next year will be like Alpine or BMW

    • @mikepod637
      @mikepod637 5 месяцев назад +2

      BOP is based off previous track not most recent race - easy to misunderstand that. But agreed w other comments, Porsche winning Le Mans= good business

    • @kekw3014
      @kekw3014 5 месяцев назад +7

      Porsche wasnt the fastest car in Spa or Imola

  • @musculusiv4172
    @musculusiv4172 5 месяцев назад +4

    I hate that they're doing energy BoP over a stint... That is not a "necessary evil" imo

  • @RZM_Valkyrie
    @RZM_Valkyrie 5 месяцев назад +3

    Peugeot screwed once again :)

  • @Juliiiiiien
    @Juliiiiiien 5 месяцев назад

    Bmw that had one of the best w/p ratio finishing behind peugeot who had the worst w/p ratio at spa

  • @gppowis
    @gppowis 5 месяцев назад

    Nice video. Thanks.

  • @FreQ135
    @FreQ135 5 месяцев назад +13

    So complex. Whilst BOP makes the field closer, I wish they'd get rid of it. I don't like the ACO being kingmakers. Toyota got screwed last year, and I don't want others to suffer the same fate. I'd prefer they set the rules and leave the brands alone to build the best car they can.

    • @GTRain
      @GTRain  5 месяцев назад +13

      In an ideal world I think most would agree. That’s essentially what LMP1 was but the costs spiraled out of control. This is a cost-effective way to get large manufacturer representation. Doesn’t mean the system can’t continue to improve though.

    • @julianturberfield7101
      @julianturberfield7101 5 месяцев назад +12

      Then you just go back to square 1 where someone outspends the rest and everyone else leaves.

    • @antoniofortunato8211
      @antoniofortunato8211 5 месяцев назад +1

      It's getting really annoying, specially with the new power gain/lost after 250kph. I think getting rid of it, would be good, while adding some type of cost cap and or development restriction. Otherwise big and rich manufacturers would outspend everybody else

    • @thepitkid
      @thepitkid 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@julianturberfield7101 maybe they could implement a budget cap like f1??

    • @Maenfy
      @Maenfy 5 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@thepitkid Not sure about that. WEC doesn't work like F1. Once a manufacturer figures out the formula others can't catch up anymore since they can't increase their spendings. It's hostile towards new manufacturers as well since they would start of with a development disadvantage that they most likely couldn't overcome. It would also kill every privateer team since they can't effort to spends millions every season to upadte their cars. Some manufacturers are already threatening to leave the series, imagine how much worse that would be with a development race.

  • @JacksRacingProjects
    @JacksRacingProjects 5 месяцев назад

    im curious out of the newbies, who is gonna show up, i think alpine are being very sneaky

    • @GTRain
      @GTRain  5 месяцев назад +1

      Alpine is the one I'm most interested in as well. We'll see how they hold up with reliability after replacing an engine at Spa.

    • @JacksRacingProjects
      @JacksRacingProjects 5 месяцев назад

      @@GTRain it would have been interesting to see the end of race pace of them at spa if they had not been trapped 1 lap back during that yellow, they were on the same strat as the two porsche's.

  • @patrickjamessimpson7268
    @patrickjamessimpson7268 5 месяцев назад

    roger penske has complained i bet so his cars have an advantage. push to pass ?

  • @nikomoin7604
    @nikomoin7604 5 месяцев назад +6

    Idk the bop doesn’t look fair to me

  • @madyogi6164
    @madyogi6164 5 месяцев назад +5

    Balance of performance is pure BS, ruining this event/series.
    It had to be Endurance not Equity championships. FIA should drop the acid and stay with 1 beer at most, when writing "rules".

    • @timmynicolas8729
      @timmynicolas8729 5 месяцев назад +4

      Oh yeah it’s definitely ruined. I miss when there was only one manufacturer in top class that was peak. 24H races without a single on track pass for the overall lead ahhh the good old days before bop ruined everything

    • @madyogi6164
      @madyogi6164 5 месяцев назад

      @@timmynicolas8729 It is what it is!. Some build cars, others think they can build a car.

    • @NexXxu
      @NexXxu 5 месяцев назад

      @@timmynicolas8729Imagine how much they could BOPed Viper in the late 90s

  • @pikestance8851
    @pikestance8851 5 месяцев назад

    Ok, I am new to the sport (drifted in from F1). I see the benefits of BOP. I am surprised the concept is polarizing. I can see how the execution can be, however. It seems the BOP is based on predicted potential, rather than result-driven. I guess that makes sense. It would seem unfair if drivers who are more capable of getting the most out of the car are directly punished. Anyway, that would explain the numbers from my new untrained eyes :)

    • @GTRain
      @GTRain  5 месяцев назад +2

      This is correct. In theory it's balance based on potential, so previous results shouldn't make a difference. Still puts the responsibility on the teams and drivers to get as close to that potential as they can. This is why boutique manufacturers often still struggle with race pace despite having what looks like "favorable BoP".
      Also, welcome to endurance racing! It's a confusing world at times, but this is a great time to start watching!

  • @HunchoCOL
    @HunchoCOL 5 месяцев назад +6

    BoPorsche doing BoPorsche things
    I guess FIA and Porsche are besties

  • @zak_7354
    @zak_7354 5 месяцев назад

    Go Caddy! ! !

  • @JuergenGDB
    @JuergenGDB 5 месяцев назад

    I think as of right now, Lamborghini needs this full season to get a grip on their car, but their driver lineup is actually decent. In one car you have Romain Grosjean, and Andrea Caldarelli Platinum but his last podium finish was in 2014. Then you have Matteo Cairoli who I think is on his way up even more and very promising. All very experienced and obviously in at Le Mans. The #63 you have Mirko Bortolotti very good, Daniil Kvyat BIG ????? here, probably paid for his ride? Was not very good in my opinion in F1. Then you have Edoardo Mortara, so so driver. So one good Lambo, the other a crap shoot. IMHO

  • @karatrynyt676
    @karatrynyt676 5 месяцев назад +1

    Não esta sendo legal prejudicarem a Peugeot, já que não venceram nenhuma corrida para terem tanto bop

  • @reynaldoruiz4038
    @reynaldoruiz4038 5 месяцев назад

    #7 Toyota should’ve won last year if it wasn’t for that crash that made it retire the race. I was steady expanding the gap.

  • @tfkrazvan
    @tfkrazvan 5 месяцев назад

    Should be Porsche year. They are pretty fast and they have the most hypercars😅

  • @LJW1912
    @LJW1912 5 месяцев назад +1

    I am completely onboard with BoP though, I really agree with it in motorsports in general (works wonder in the BTCC too)

  • @SareN36
    @SareN36 5 месяцев назад +2

    I hope after the Porsche tests they will throw a bag because this season they won 2/3 of the stage and I don't understand why their weight is not the biggest in the class yet

    • @VUO4E
      @VUO4E 5 месяцев назад +1

      As I wrote earlier, thé Porsche Bop is a mystery. If they had won twice because of every other car crashing into a wall.... Ok. But these victories seem tot be ignored and that's a bit special...

    • @timmynicolas8729
      @timmynicolas8729 5 месяцев назад +1

      ⁠@@VUO4E1 win on the track that suited them the most then one due to a red flag. I’m sorry but what mistery am I missing ?

    • @timmynicolas8729
      @timmynicolas8729 5 месяцев назад

      Bop IS NOT success ballast mate.

    • @VUO4E
      @VUO4E 5 месяцев назад

      @@timmynicolas8729 No need for cringe words like "mate". In theory; BOP isn't meant to be and a success ballast. But, very often it amounts to that. I never saw the Porsches struggling at the back of the pack in 2024: they are fast and they never miss a podium. Sure, Spa was an orgy of race incidents but I can tell you that their overall performance is very very high, because I saw them race. Have you seen them 'live' ?

  • @eisenerz35
    @eisenerz35 5 месяцев назад +1

    Lambo max power makes no sense

  • @LagmasterB
    @LagmasterB 5 месяцев назад

    Lambo has highest max power below 250 KPH

  • @OerlikonNoerd
    @OerlikonNoerd 5 месяцев назад +2

    Vsauce

  • @StarFox85
    @StarFox85 5 месяцев назад

    👍

  • @JunoBuh
    @JunoBuh 5 месяцев назад +1

    I only hope Peugeot has some sucess, that first race was heartbreaking

  • @fifesimracerguy455
    @fifesimracerguy455 5 месяцев назад

    Well that’s a few cars fucked now

  • @andrelima5124
    @andrelima5124 5 месяцев назад +4

    The really don't want to see Cadillac and Peugeot win 😂

  • @wololo10
    @wololo10 5 месяцев назад +1

    Even in GT7, a video game, they cant do BoP right, they are always changing it

  • @gamegod7856
    @gamegod7856 5 месяцев назад +1

    BOP has decided the 24h of le Mans; Winner Porsche, next Ferrari, after Toyota & BMW/Cadillac/Alpine fighting for scraps... the others are to be polite & grateful bystanders, thank you!

    • @tecnoguy1136
      @tecnoguy1136 5 месяцев назад +1

      Love how you’ve come to that decision.

  • @pikminologueraisin2139
    @pikminologueraisin2139 5 месяцев назад +1

    wtf

  • @user-swvn3ti2d
    @user-swvn3ti2d 5 месяцев назад +6

    Its really ridicolous that the Porsche gets ever a good BoP

    • @deyanbonchev663
      @deyanbonchev663 5 месяцев назад +5

      And always avoid penalties.

    • @vwjetta4138
      @vwjetta4138 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@deyanbonchev663what penalties were avoided?

  • @kekw3014
    @kekw3014 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ferrari was the fastest car in Spa and Imola and they got buffed bt BoP hahahaha

    • @md244-w6v
      @md244-w6v 5 месяцев назад +1

      buffed???

  • @wololo10
    @wololo10 5 месяцев назад +5

    This is a non ending subject, BoP will always be failed

    • @scuckplexity
      @scuckplexity 5 месяцев назад

      If that's the case then GT3 would cease to exist by now

    • @SynchLyOfthemgreat
      @SynchLyOfthemgreat 5 месяцев назад +13

      If that's the case then GT3 would cease to exist by now

    • @julianturberfield7101
      @julianturberfield7101 5 месяцев назад +3

      IMSA did it fine for years and had all the cars within hundredths of a second in quali.

    • @AkiyamaShun4President
      @AkiyamaShun4President 5 месяцев назад

      super gt's bop system is decent but it's sorta failing.

    • @md244-w6v
      @md244-w6v 5 месяцев назад

      theres too many stupid comments like this here, it's concerning

  • @wololo10
    @wololo10 5 месяцев назад +3

    Come on lets go back to minimum weight, maximum fuel flow, maximum tank size, thats it

    • @SynchLyOfthemgreat
      @SynchLyOfthemgreat 5 месяцев назад +7

      They have. And one team dominates and the rest have no interest

    • @julianturberfield7101
      @julianturberfield7101 5 месяцев назад +1

      I guess we can go back to 1 team races again if you want.

    • @timmynicolas8729
      @timmynicolas8729 5 месяцев назад

      @@SynchLyOfthemgreatit’s even worse tbh. Even the fastest team can pull out just because they’re not willing to spend as much as other teams. I don’t believe a single person saying they miss late lmp1. If they say that you just know they’ve never actually watched wec during that time

    • @wololo10
      @wololo10 5 месяцев назад

      @@SynchLyOfthemgreat and now we have many teams and one has bought the ACO to have a BoP advantage, very cool

    • @SynchLyOfthemgreat
      @SynchLyOfthemgreat 5 месяцев назад

      @@wololo10 what the fuck are you talking about

  • @rolux4853
    @rolux4853 5 месяцев назад +5

    BOP is just the worst that ever happened to racing..
    Bring back the rules of the 90s and let the engineers do their best.
    Just put a monetary cap on the cars and let the best engineers figure out the best solution instead of rewarding lazy engineering with power bonuses, because their system doesn’t work as well.

    • @tohruberthon47
      @tohruberthon47 5 месяцев назад +3

      Do you know why Glickenhaus never win a race then?
      That car's a case of Lazy Engineering and look at their results

    • @Echo-uo2uc
      @Echo-uo2uc 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@tohruberthon47 yeah well you don't really deserve to win if you are lazy with your engineering, do you?

    • @Maenfy
      @Maenfy 5 месяцев назад +3

      How would a monetary cap change anything? Once a team has figured out the formula others can't catch up because they are limited by spending. New manufacturers don't even need to think about joining because once they are late they can't close the gap by investing more money, smaller manufacturers probably couldn't keep up with the bigger manufacturers bringing updates every season. This system might work in F1, WEC isn't F1 though. The revenue these teams make isn't enough to balance the amount of money they would have to spend.

    • @falinestixiaolong9691
      @falinestixiaolong9691 5 месяцев назад +6

      Don't respond to that guy. I've seen him on a few endurance videos and he's always complaining about how racing was "better back in the days". Let grandpa seethe in his ignorance and let's focus on enjoying the WEC no that it's the best it's ever been.

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@falinestixiaolong9691 Well it‘s the truth, I‘m sorry.
      I‘ve experienced Le Mans in the 90s and let me tell you the racing and the crowds where absolutely insane!
      These days there’s almost nothing of that spirit left.
      Most of the crowd is gone, there’s maybe a fifth of the attendance at Le Mans as there was in the nineties.
      When group C cars and GT1 cars and even the later GTS cars roared by it was absolutely insane!
      Also those cars still where real manufacturer cars.
      The new cars are just the same LMP2 cars with different optics and a different engine.
      It‘s such a shame they replaced the glorious technology of LMP1 with those lmdh/gtp cars.
      The same goes for the GTE class that was the last interesting and different touring car class, which now has become another insanely boring GT3 class.
      Just have a look at the unique GTE cars that we had and compare it to GT3 cars that now are in every other series.
      They don’t give you the same emotion and awe that GTE cars can give you.
      I‘ve driven the BMW M6 GT3 on a weekend track training and the car can do so much more than I can do and it was amazing fun, but I still prefer something more unique with less electronic help than that.
      If you haven’t experienced it you’ll never understand I guess.
      Maybe visit at least Goodwood to get a feeling for those sports and touring cars of the nineties.
      Maybe you’ll get it then..