Wow! This is an excellent comprehensive review of parasitic insect repellents. As an avid backpacker I can attest to the effectiveness of permethrin against ticks. I'll be picking up some 20% picaridin lotion today. I just subbed, hope your other videos are as great as this one.
This is such an informative video. Wish I had known this back in 2007 when I got lyme disease. I have asthma, and the OFF sprays exacerbate that, so I didn't respray enough. I think I may be able to camp again knowing about these other products!
Thank you very much. I can't go outside during the summer due to mosquitoes. I buy bifen which is like permerthrin for spraying my homes exterior, and interior for insects. I've used off deep woods for years and it's not repelling them anymore.
My Grandma swears by skin-so-soft. She's used it instead of bug spray since it came out and never gets bit walking in the woods with her walking group.
It is interesting that you don’t suggest the 30% Oil of Lemon Eucalyptus. I know consumer reviews for examples lists at among the top 3, along with deet and Picardin. Good to know. Ticks and Lyme are a major issue here and I’ve already had run ins with the black legged demon this year. So I need to make sure what I use for my family works.
Studies I've reviewed as well as personal use has not placed 30 percent oil of eucalyptus in the top tier. It works but not near to the extent of picaridin. Depends on where your at and extensiveness of the critters.
I took notes! Going to malaria belt of sub-Saharan Africa I will get much of what I can there, but now I am armed with knowledge. Thank you! In my experience none of the natural essential oils work worth a darn, except one - Nepeta cataria (catnip). Plus I love the aroma. But I don't count on it to be effective. Doesn't work to prevent all mosquitos buzzing around, plus it is very expensive, even though typically grown and extracted in USA. In my experience ALL the other essential oils (such as eucalyptus and citronella) are *completely* useless, tantamount to fraudulent advertising by vendors and wholesalers. Health food store products are not measured against the same standards as drugs - take note. I trust scientific research. Problem is there is no money in non-patentable agricultural products so I understand the argument for experimenting. I think as a kid I tried gasoline. Not again.
I am trying to find out if Picaridin is safe to use on my dogs. Trials on humans, rats, and rabbits have shown very low toxicity levels. It is recommended as safe for preagnant/nursing women. There is very little data online re safety in canines.
I have a couple questions, and truly hope you, or someone knowledgable, can shed light on them. First question is(and knowing Permethrin is extremely toxic to cats) will DRY Permethrin treated clothes still remain toxic to cats? Also, is Picaridin, applied to skin or clothing, toxic to cats? I spend a lot of time outdoors, and never really used repellents on my skin or clothing. However, last week, I was bit by a tick and have had a bad reaction for several days. I began to research what treatments were available to try and prevent this from happening again. The solid consensus is that Permethrin treated clothing was highly effective at repelling and killing ticks. I was just about to go out and get some, but then saw one video where a guy mentioned, ever so briefly, that it is extremely toxic to cats. Weird that no one else mentions this in their videos. Searched the web for a concise answer to whether it is toxic to cats when dry, and couldnt find a clear cut answer. No clear cut answers on whether Picaridin is safe around cats either. Not planning on using ON my cat, but on MYSELF and my clothing. I love my baby girl and dont want to harm or kill her just to keep ticks off of me. Id rather I get sick from a bite than her be harmed in any way. Its very hard to believe, for as long as these products have been around, that there isnt much readily available information on the subject. Please, can someone shed some light?
Permethrin is toxic to cats. The lipohilic molecule can cause seizures, muscle twitching and CNS issues. Dried permethrin much less of an issue. The response is fairly simplistic. After your hike and camping wash your clothes immediately. Not a huge issue unless your taking your cat along. No evidence Picaridin is toxic however can be bitter and nasty as I have gotten it in my mouth before. Stay safe. Hope this helps.
@@SurviveOutdoors Thank you. So as long as clothing is treated outside and fully dry, and I wash the clothes and myself after an outing, it should be ok to use? I read that Permethrin stays in clothing for a few washes. Will this be an issue if she jumps on my lap or rubs against me? Another read says that as long as the dose is less than 5% Permethrin that is shouldnt harm my cat. Truth to that? Also, will sweat or rain soaked clothing that is treated with Permethrin make it more toxic again?
Rain soaked can increase some of its toxicity. Great question, love the way you think. From what I have read after a washing in hot water toxicity drops. I know a few outdoor men and women that have cats. They treat their clothing then wear the next day, remove clothing and put in sealed plastic bag to reworn and no exposure to pets. Cannot guarantee how many washes brings it down to zero. I highly doubt after two washes there would be any danger. Eliminate which I prescribe for head lice is put on the scalp and for scabies directly on the skin it is 5 percent and I have had zero issues with pet cats in 43 years. I would assume ( assumption) that somebody has a cat which sleeps with and may lick them. It has a quick absorption rate. Always best to be safe with your pets though.
Thankyou for asking these questions I too was wondering the same things especially the rewetting thing, ticks are a backyard problem for me also and sometimes I party in the woods for a week and don't wear any specific clothes for that, fair to say I'm stressed tf out, I feel like I just straight up can't go outside anymore because everytime I do I end up pulling ticks out of me later on, I can't imagine having a child and letting it play in the yard like a normal kid should it would just be a nightmare, ticks run my life rn @@gardenstateflatlandb
Can't find Permethrin here in Canada. Against ticks will it be ok if I use OFF Deep Woods on clothes and skin instead and stay on trail without venturing into the bushes or the woods?
You can use OFF that is fine depending on the percent of DEET you will need to reapply. Amazon has permethrin and you can usually get it in 2 days. I will be having a video coming up on tick prevention so stay tuned. Ty much for the question. Stay safe.
There are a ton of home remedies. Topical hydrocortisone cream covered with a band aid or saran wrap is effective along with Benadryl or a typical Benadryl cream works very well.
My daughter used a chewable called Bravecto which worked well. There are always the collars that are semi sufficient. That taps my knowledge on pets. Ty for the question.
Cedarcide. Haven't seen anything since we started using their products. We had one dog that had Ehlirica and Anaplasmosis at the same time, 2 different ticks. The other dog and I both got Lyme ~ in our village backyard in Northeast Wisconsin 400 meters from where I raised and never had a tick from the homestead all my life 🙄 and I'm one of those people that can be in a room with 500 people and be the only one getting bit by mosquitoes and didn't get bit once. You can spray on your clothes or yourself. For pets you spray on them and rub in. Cedarcide is also supposed to be phenomenal at repelling chiggers and fleas. I can say it does nothing for me personally for sandflies "no see ums" and does not keep flies off our black lab I do have to add that after we almost lost one of our dogs we treat our yard with PCO from Cedarcide also.
Wow! This is an excellent comprehensive review of parasitic insect repellents. As an avid backpacker I can attest to the effectiveness of permethrin against ticks. I'll be picking up some 20% picaridin lotion today. I just subbed, hope your other videos are as great as this one.
Thank you a bunch. Much appreciated .
This is such an informative video. Wish I had known this back in 2007 when I got lyme disease. I have asthma, and the OFF sprays exacerbate that, so I didn't respray enough. I think I may be able to camp again knowing about these other products!
Awesome glad you will get back out there. Ty for that.
Wow great educational video thank you .
You are welcome
I'll be sending a link to a buddy of mine who I often debate with regarding repellants. Great video!
Great thanks for the link share.
Thank you very much. I can't go outside during the summer due to mosquitoes. I buy bifen which is like permerthrin for spraying my homes exterior, and interior for insects. I've used off deep woods for years and it's not repelling them anymore.
You are welcome. Good luck.
My Grandma swears by skin-so-soft. She's used it instead of bug spray since it came out and never gets bit walking in the woods with her walking group.
That's awesome. More of us should listen to the older generation. Ty for posting that.
Thank you for this! 😊
You are welcome
It is interesting that you don’t suggest the 30% Oil of Lemon Eucalyptus. I know consumer reviews for examples lists at among the top 3, along with deet and Picardin. Good to know. Ticks and Lyme are a major issue here and I’ve already had run ins with the black legged demon this year. So I need to make sure what I use for my family works.
Studies I've reviewed as well as personal use has not placed 30 percent oil of eucalyptus in the top tier. It works but not near to the extent of picaridin. Depends on where your at and extensiveness of the critters.
great info...thanks !
so picaridin is best for mosquito?
I cannot say best but is for sure my preference. Does not odor and good protection
Reasonably priced.
Actually mosquitoes just don't like the way it feels on their feet. They will actually land on you and quickly fly away. See for yourself.
DEET.
It ain't good fer they feet!
It melts plastic, probably melts their feet.
Thnxs 4 uploading 🇺🇸
Not a problem. Yw
I took notes! Going to malaria belt of sub-Saharan Africa I will get much of what I can there, but now I am armed with knowledge. Thank you! In my experience none of the natural essential oils work worth a darn, except one - Nepeta cataria (catnip). Plus I love the aroma. But I don't count on it to be effective. Doesn't work to prevent all mosquitos buzzing around, plus it is very expensive, even though typically grown and extracted in USA. In my experience ALL the other essential oils (such as eucalyptus and citronella) are *completely* useless, tantamount to fraudulent advertising by vendors and wholesalers. Health food store products are not measured against the same standards as drugs - take note. I trust scientific research. Problem is there is no money in non-patentable agricultural products so I understand the argument for experimenting. I think as a kid I tried gasoline. Not again.
You are welcome. Goodluck on your trip. I did not know about catnip. Ty back. Stay safe.
I love using Cutter Skinsations! Also works on no see'ems
Agreed
I am trying to find out if Picaridin is safe to use on my dogs. Trials on humans, rats, and rabbits have shown very low toxicity levels. It is recommended as safe for preagnant/nursing women. There is very little data online re safety in canines.
Try K9 Advantix. I have heard good things from vets on this product.
I have a couple questions, and truly hope you, or someone knowledgable, can shed light on them.
First question is(and knowing Permethrin is extremely toxic to cats) will DRY Permethrin treated clothes still remain toxic to cats?
Also, is Picaridin, applied to skin or clothing, toxic to cats?
I spend a lot of time outdoors, and never really used repellents on my skin or clothing. However, last week, I was bit by a tick and have had a bad reaction for several days. I began to research what treatments were available to try and prevent this from happening again. The solid consensus is that Permethrin treated clothing was highly effective at repelling and killing ticks. I was just about to go out and get some, but then saw one video where a guy mentioned, ever so briefly, that it is extremely toxic to cats. Weird that no one else mentions this in their videos.
Searched the web for a concise answer to whether it is toxic to cats when dry, and couldnt find a clear cut answer. No clear cut answers on whether Picaridin is safe around cats either.
Not planning on using ON my cat, but on MYSELF and my clothing.
I love my baby girl and dont want to harm or kill her just to keep ticks off of me. Id rather I get sick from a bite than her be harmed in any way.
Its very hard to believe, for as long as these products have been around, that there isnt much readily available information on the subject.
Please, can someone shed some light?
Permethrin is toxic to cats. The lipohilic molecule can cause seizures, muscle twitching and CNS issues. Dried permethrin much less of an issue. The response is fairly simplistic. After your hike and camping wash your clothes immediately. Not a huge issue unless your taking your cat along.
No evidence Picaridin is toxic however can be bitter and nasty as I have gotten it in my mouth before. Stay safe. Hope this helps.
@@SurviveOutdoors Thank you. So as long as clothing is treated outside and fully dry, and I wash the clothes and myself after an outing, it should be ok to use?
I read that Permethrin stays in clothing for a few washes. Will this be an issue if she jumps on my lap or rubs against me?
Another read says that as long as the dose is less than 5% Permethrin that is shouldnt harm my cat. Truth to that?
Also, will sweat or rain soaked clothing that is treated with Permethrin make it more toxic again?
Rain soaked can increase some of its toxicity. Great question, love the way you think. From what I have read after a washing in hot water toxicity drops. I know a few outdoor men and women that have cats. They treat their clothing then wear the next day, remove clothing and put in sealed plastic bag to reworn and no exposure to pets. Cannot guarantee how many washes brings it down to zero. I highly doubt after two washes there would be any danger. Eliminate which I prescribe for head lice is put on the scalp and for scabies directly on the skin it is 5 percent and I have had zero issues with pet cats in 43 years. I would assume ( assumption) that somebody has a cat which sleeps with and may lick them. It has a quick absorption rate. Always best to be safe with your pets though.
Thankyou for asking these questions I too was wondering the same things especially the rewetting thing, ticks are a backyard problem for me also and sometimes I party in the woods for a week and don't wear any specific clothes for that, fair to say I'm stressed tf out, I feel like I just straight up can't go outside anymore because everytime I do I end up pulling ticks out of me later on, I can't imagine having a child and letting it play in the yard like a normal kid should it would just be a nightmare, ticks run my life rn @@gardenstateflatlandb
Can't find Permethrin here in Canada. Against ticks will it be ok if I use OFF Deep Woods on clothes and skin instead and stay on trail without venturing into the bushes or the woods?
You can use OFF that is fine depending on the percent of DEET you will need to reapply. Amazon has permethrin and you can usually get it in 2 days. I will be having a video coming up on tick prevention so stay tuned. Ty much for the question. Stay safe.
What is best for chiggars? Our cats get them and once in a while we get them from the cats, they itch so much!
There are a ton of home remedies. Topical hydrocortisone cream covered with a band aid or saran wrap is effective along with Benadryl or a typical Benadryl cream works very well.
Thanks for answeing.I'm getting some Picaridin, and Permethrin. I have always used products with DEET as it is very effective!
Off topic here, buy you sound exactly like "The Dude" from The Big Lebowski.
Also, thanks for the info.
Lmao...no problem
That would be Jeff Bridges, right?
could I paint my house with any of these for 360 degree repelling? only partially joking
What’s good for dogs?
My daughter used a chewable called Bravecto which worked well. There are always the collars that are semi sufficient. That taps my knowledge on pets. Ty for the question.
Cedarcide. Haven't seen anything since we started using their products. We had one dog that had Ehlirica and Anaplasmosis at the same time, 2 different ticks. The other dog and I both got Lyme ~ in our village backyard in Northeast Wisconsin 400 meters from where I raised and never had a tick from the homestead all my life 🙄 and I'm one of those people that can be in a room with 500 people and be the only one getting bit by mosquitoes and didn't get bit once. You can spray on your clothes or yourself. For pets you spray on them and rub in. Cedarcide is also supposed to be phenomenal at repelling chiggers and fleas. I can say it does nothing for me personally for sandflies "no see ums" and does not keep flies off our black lab
I do have to add that after we almost lost one of our dogs we treat our yard with PCO from Cedarcide also.
Ohhhh and I haven't been able to test the Cedarcide out while deer hunting, in the past we've used Sawyer
what about lemon eucalyptus?
I did a follow up video on eucalyptus it works but not near as effective as Picaridin. You have to reapply it often.
@@SurviveOutdoors thanks!