Wiffle balls have holes which allow for increased movement but also increased deceleration. By the time it gets to the batter it’s less. Also swinging a wiffle ball bat is 10x easier and lighter than a baseball bat allowing for quicker swing speeds making it easier to make contact
Yes, but they are also thrown faster initially (bc they are lighter)...so it kinda evens itself put at this distance as seen in the time it takes to hit the board demonstration.
2 things 1. The bar is far lighter allowing for adjustments and faster swinging. 2. The ball slows down way faster than you thing it’s peak velocity is 95 mph yet it will be hit when it is around 70-80
@@dripacuna this doesn't mean anything. like a user above said, i can soft toss you a ball from 1 ft away and it will get to you faster than any mlb pitch ever but it's incredibly easy to hit. the velocity is what matters.
A wiffleball would definitely lose a ton of velocity by the time it gets to the plate, unlike a baseball, so it’s probably not traveling 95 mph the entire time
@@mitchelltear Listen, I'm not saying it's easy to hit those pitches, but 95mph is not the average velocity. If the ball travels 45 feet in 0.38s, that would be 118.42 ft/s or 80.74mph over the duration of the pitch. Anything measured in the 90's has to be peak velo!
@@MexicanMaestro10 your right, I did the math after I commented that and saw I was wrong. I just assumed that’s how the guy in the video calculated the velocity
It’s really not. The wiffle balls peak velocity is 95 but that’s as soon as it leaves the hand. After it’s released it losing speed almost immediately. The only reason the time to catcher is less is because they stand closer.
Yea but you can see that the whiffle ball pitch loses a lot of velocity between the mound and the plate, so there is actually more time to hit than u might think, assuming velocity for whiffle ball is measured the same as in baseball
Uh yeah, but MLB bats weigh about 40 ounces, whereas whiffle ball bats weigh less than 10 ounces. So let’s not forget the huge boost in reaction time and bat speed to counter the shorter distance!! Second, a wiffle ball, because of its weight and holes, will decelerate about 8x faster than a baseball. By the time it travels the 45 ft to the batter, it will have lost ~45% of its velocity. So that theoretical “127 mph” pitch, would reach the batter at a theoretical “70 mph” instead. By comparison, a baseball would lose about 10% of its velocity over 60ft, so that “95 mph” fastball would reach the batter at ~85 mph, significantly faster than the perceived 70 mph of the wiffle ball.
wiffle ball bats average 19.5 ounces while mlb are 33 ounces, every ounces of bat weight is around a 7mph bat speed difference. so 33-19.5=13.5, 13.5*7=94.5 mph bat speed differnnce. *correct me if im wrong idk
This is all true, but you also gotta take into consideration that the bat weighs about 2 ouches. This makes the time to do a swing very slow. I’m not saying hitting is easy. It is far from it, but it’s not unhittable. Although this is shown in wiggle ball.
You also have to take into consideration that a wiggle ball bat weighs significantly less than a baseball bat, therefore the hitter for baseball actually has less time to determine if they want to swing at the pitch because they have to get the bat going. Not saying wiffleball is easy, it is far from it, I’m just saying it’s not as difficult as baseball is.
@@vibeskai I’m reading back your comment and I don’t even know what either of us are saying. I’m genuinely so confused because I don’t understand your comment, so I don’t understand mine
One thing you didn’t mention is having to get out of the way of the ball. The fact that a baseball hurts a lot more when it hits you makes for a much different at bat.
My baseball coach once explained “would you rather hit a 200mph ball from the outfield or soft toss from 3 feet away” time it takes to reach the plate is not the same as velocity
Thank you, somebody else with sense. Reaction time is much less a factor than the total time window available to hit the ball, in which velocity is the only factor
So that’s peak velocity which is very fast, but not the average speed like a baseball so it slows down a lot faster. Also, the bats are a LOT lighter, so it doesn’t take as long to get is swinging. This isn’t to discount the professional wiffle ball players though because the movement you can get on a wiffle ball is WAY more than you could get with a baseball. They’re just different sports with different challenges.
Buddy wiffle bats vs wooden bats… you forget? lol you can see the ball exponentially longer . And peak velocity is deflating constantly in a wiffle ball. Baseballs do not slow down as they get to you
The speed of a fast wiffle ball is on average about 45 mph. You can’t compare how fast a wiffle ball reaches the plate to mlb. One’s 35 feet the other is 60…
I don’t know if you’re right or wrong, but a baseball has a lot more mass meaning it has more momentum, so I think it would be easier or at least the same.
@@jonahmays he’s right. A wiffle ball has air holes in it aswell. If they throw a baseball from the same place it would be different. That bat and ball weigh different.
Aroldis Chapman got nothing on Jimmy knorp
MLW only pitch like 75 and below
It's soft plastic not a baseball
@@TickleRippREAL they only can throw that fast if they throw faster there’s some speed limit rule
@@TickleRippREAL this is mlw
Fax
but the way the dude threw that bat at the end 💀🔥😂
Ikr😂
he was my gym teacher his name is mr. packer
He chucked that thing a kilometer easily.
For real. I watched this whole short again just for that bat flip😂
@@RomanCordero1 say sike rn
Not only the speed, the absolute curve you can get with those balls
That’s what the dude said at the end of the video
He literally said that in the video
I did it like this, I did it like that, I did it with a whiffle ball bat, so…
@@poopoogamer1232 okay? It’s still true
We watched the video
Wiffle balls have holes which allow for increased movement but also increased deceleration. By the time it gets to the batter it’s less. Also swinging a wiffle ball bat is 10x easier and lighter than a baseball bat allowing for quicker swing speeds making it easier to make contact
Yeah there’s a reason these guys don’t play baseball
Bro pimped the hell out of that last one
Wiffle ball slows down like crazy tho
Yes, but they are also thrown faster initially (bc they are lighter)...so it kinda evens itself put at this distance as seen in the time it takes to hit the board demonstration.
Elite bat flip at the end 😂
2 things 1. The bar is far lighter allowing for adjustments and faster swinging. 2. The ball slows down way faster than you thing it’s peak velocity is 95 mph yet it will be hit when it is around 70-80
but it's still faster than any mlb pitch ever in terms of time from hand to plate
@@dripacuna then why aren’t these guys in the MLB getting paid millions of dollars
@@dripacuna this doesn't mean anything. like a user above said, i can soft toss you a ball from 1 ft away and it will get to you faster than any mlb pitch ever but it's incredibly easy to hit. the velocity is what matters.
Bro pimped that shit so hard at the last one
A wiffleball would definitely lose a ton of velocity by the time it gets to the plate, unlike a baseball, so it’s probably not traveling 95 mph the entire time
still insane
Also you can get more bat speed/acceleration with a wiffle ball bat. You can start your swing much later.
Bro launched that bat to the stratosphere💀
that bat flip at the end was personal...
They have a light bat so it makes it somewhat easier
yeah but the pitches are also nasty
@@billdil yeah
Can't compare this with the show lmao
It’s peak velocity is 95. As soon as it comes out the pitchers hand it starts losing velocity way quicker than a baseball would.
Yes but it still gets to the plate very fast and still faster then mlb fast balls as seen in the video.
Not true. The average velocity is 95
@@mitchelltear 95 from 45 feet and 60.5 is very different along with the break
@@mitchelltear Listen, I'm not saying it's easy to hit those pitches, but 95mph is not the average velocity. If the ball travels 45 feet in 0.38s, that would be 118.42 ft/s or 80.74mph over the duration of the pitch. Anything measured in the 90's has to be peak velo!
@@MexicanMaestro10 your right, I did the math after I commented that and saw I was wrong. I just assumed that’s how the guy in the video calculated the velocity
yo wtf💀 i didn’t think it was that fast
They are using plastic bats
It’s really not. The wiffle balls peak velocity is 95 but that’s as soon as it leaves the hand. After it’s released it losing speed almost immediately. The only reason the time to catcher is less is because they stand closer.
The wiffle ball bat is also a lot lighter so u can wait until the last second to swing
The catchers mitt is usually behind the plate meaning the time the baseball crosses the plate it would be less or equal to the .38 of the waffle ball.
As a catcher I would know, some like to stick it a little behind the plate for better framing. So probably a little less than .38
Yeah so they’re pretty much equivalent based on when they cross the plate.
@@ryan.8783 Basically so
He timed the wiffle ball to when it hit the strikezone not when it crossed the plate
@@bengunnels1749 .. hey bud idk if you relized but when the ball crosses the plate it crosses the strike zone. Just a heads up
That batflip went crazy bro🔥🔥🔥
That’s a bat throw not a bat flip 😂
Yea but you can see that the whiffle ball pitch loses a lot of velocity between the mound and the plate, so there is actually more time to hit than u might think, assuming velocity for whiffle ball is measured the same as in baseball
Imagine how fast these guys could throw a baseball
Uh yeah, but MLB bats weigh about 40 ounces, whereas whiffle ball bats weigh less than 10 ounces. So let’s not forget the huge boost in reaction time and bat speed to counter the shorter distance!!
Second, a wiffle ball, because of its weight and holes, will decelerate about 8x faster than a baseball. By the time it travels the 45 ft to the batter, it will have lost ~45% of its velocity. So that theoretical “127 mph” pitch, would reach the batter at a theoretical “70 mph” instead.
By comparison, a baseball would lose about 10% of its velocity over 60ft, so that “95 mph” fastball would reach the batter at ~85 mph, significantly faster than the perceived 70 mph of the wiffle ball.
wiffle ball bats average 19.5 ounces while mlb are 33 ounces, every ounces of bat weight is around a 7mph bat speed difference. so 33-19.5=13.5, 13.5*7=94.5 mph bat speed differnnce. *correct me if im wrong idk
Yo that bat flip tho 😂😂😂😂😂
If Aroldis Chapman played wiffle ball:
ZOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM
This is actually nuts
the distances just make it translate to 95. wiffle ball mounds are much closer.
Bro if this is actually real😳
it is bro
Is is
it is, but if you make contact it’s a lot easier to put it outside
This is all true, but you also gotta take into consideration that the bat weighs about 2 ouches. This makes the time to do a swing very slow.
I’m not saying hitting is easy. It is far from it, but it’s not unhittable. Although this is shown in wiggle ball.
They also have plastic bats that weigh nothing
You also have to take into consideration that a wiggle ball bat weighs significantly less than a baseball bat, therefore the hitter for baseball actually has less time to determine if they want to swing at the pitch because they have to get the bat going. Not saying wiffleball is easy, it is far from it, I’m just saying it’s not as difficult as baseball is.
Mmm they both have their harder parts.
Scoreboard proceeds to say 105 mph
That bat went flying
For the rest of the world... 95mph is 152kph! Insane!
That’s how fast the person is swinging the bat
No it’s not people in the mlb have around an average of 100 mph swing vel and that’s with a heavy bat wiffle ball bats can be swung extremely fast
Who's out there throwing heat in a wiffle ball game?? It's wiffle ball.
You also have to take into consideration an in avg pitch of 90+mph pitches that would come from an mlb player at 45 feet.
How is that true at all?
@@asimm03790 have you watched the mlb?
@@vibeskai I’m reading back your comment and I don’t even know what either of us are saying. I’m genuinely so confused because I don’t understand your comment, so I don’t understand mine
@@asimm03790 same 😂 we’ll just call it a even argument
@@vibeskai sounds good to me
Bats are lighter, swings can be shortened
Well the bat is way lighter then a MLB bat
Exactly, and you don’t actually need to “swing” you just have to smack the ball. You can legit check swing home runs in this
@@pohorex6834and you dont need to fear getting hit at all
yep lol that is the reality of wiffleball
Can I become a wiffle ball champion!? 🏆 ⚾️
It’s because the mound is so close that’s the reaction time but it’s still really fast
the pocket radar doesn’t do it by reaction time
Is that at the revolution stadium or now known as WellSpan stadium
One thing you didn’t mention is having to get out of the way of the ball. The fact that a baseball hurts a lot more when it hits you makes for a much different at bat.
Let’s see them hit a wiffle ball with a 30 pound bat
No one has ever swung a 30 pound bat. You mean 30 ounces? Lmao
He said 30 pounds😂😂😂😂😂😂
literally spit from laughing so hard “30 pound bat” LMFALAOAOAOAHDVWUWISBDGEGSGSHSHSHHS
lets see you hit a baseball with a 30 pound bat lmao
I like the jomboy league rules where over 70 mph is a ball , it’s like the slow pitch soft ball version lol
Wiffle ball bats r lighter so they can be moved much faster
The movement makes it hard, but that equivalence doesnt make sense bc the pitch decelarates much faster than a solid ball
Wiffy John surgery is about to become a lot more common
Dude would carve up mlw
The bat is way lighter though. You can't wait much longer to swing
Bro flung that bag 😂
I feel like a speed limit rule like Blitz Ball Battle has would help
They should get paid
They are not professionals they are just adults reliving their childhood.
the bat and ball are so light that you can absolutely heat it up w bat speed though. you can get there later because of that bat speed difference.
My baseball coach once explained “would you rather hit a 200mph ball from the outfield or soft toss from 3 feet away” time it takes to reach the plate is not the same as velocity
Thank you, somebody else with sense. Reaction time is much less a factor than the total time window available to hit the ball, in which velocity is the only factor
That’s nuts
That is too fast. MLW limits pitch velocity to 72 mph - I think it's a good change which emphasizes location and movement for the pitchers
I think maybe limit it to 80 and it should be good
@@Ducklingliveye
This was ended on the perfect clip 😅
I don’t think he realizes that if you throw more than 74 mph it’s called as a ball
Reaction time is like that but the ball is still only moving 95
Nolan Ryan’s 108 mph fastball 🤨
those are unofficial records because they were so long ago that they are going based off recent era
I swear the guy in the last clip is Adam thielen
this is very true. But in Mlw there is a 72 mph speed limit. anything over that is a ball.
So if it’s only .02 second difference (approximately) then how is it comparable to a pitch at 127 mph not the 106? Honest question
bro watching all video only for the bat flip at end bruh
The bat is much lighter which makes it actually easier to hit then the major leagues
So that’s peak velocity which is very fast, but not the average speed like a baseball so it slows down a lot faster. Also, the bats are a LOT lighter, so it doesn’t take as long to get is swinging. This isn’t to discount the professional wiffle ball players though because the movement you can get on a wiffle ball is WAY more than you could get with a baseball. They’re just different sports with different challenges.
And that’s why the MLW has a speed cap
But they also have the lightest bat i've ever seen
Buddy wiffle bats vs wooden bats… you forget? lol you can see the ball exponentially longer . And peak velocity is deflating constantly in a wiffle ball. Baseballs do not slow down as they get to you
Baseballs do slow down as they get to you. Even with a lighter bat the balls have much more curve and the pitcher is much closer.
Imagine getting hit by that 💀
Pro wiffle ball players lol
last clip hall was crushed
Ok yeah but the wiffle balls slow down mad fast and the bats are crazy light
.35 seconds is about 20-23 frames in a 60fps fighting game like Smash Bros melee and that’s considered slow and extremely reactable
No way y’all have an actual wiffleball stadium
Impressive.
More entertaining than baseball
I know understand why awa only allows 60 mph pitches 😭
The speed of a fast wiffle ball is on average about 45 mph. You can’t compare how fast a wiffle ball reaches the plate to mlb. One’s 35 feet the other is 60…
VINCENTTTTT
faster pitching but quicker bats
These guys deserve more than the pro mlb teams then. Haha
That might be harder to hit then a baseball
Yeah but a wiffle ball is like a quarter of the weight of a baseball so it takes a lot more force to throw a baseball that fast
I don’t know if you’re right or wrong, but a baseball has a lot more mass meaning it has more momentum, so I think it would be easier or at least the same.
@@jonahmays he’s right. A wiffle ball has air holes in it aswell. If they throw a baseball from the same place it would be different. That bat and ball weigh different.
There is a throwing speed max of 95 you can’t go any faster it’s in the rules
Trying to hit off of O'Neil Cruz but he can use a bat to pitch
Hit the ball in the air and it’s gone 😂😅
The must have the best hand eye coordination on earth
Yea then put those wiffle ball guys against a pro baseball player and see how that goes
That is wrong because in MLW you can only throw 75 I think
I would want a helmet Ngl
Wiffle ball also uses a bat that weighs like 5 ounces compared to baseball bats that weigh like 30 ounces
yea but the bat is much lighter therefore much easier/faster to get through the zone
A little easier to get a waffle ball bat on a 100 mph fastball though...
Speed Violation 75+mph=Automatic ball
Yeah it’s starts fast but the reaction time isn’t as bad as your saying because the ball slows down so much more than a baseball
How do you get the timer in the video and sync it?
and i think im going to your tournament in december