I misread the thumbnail as "World Ending" and now I'm curious on 15 Advanced World-ending Techniques for fantasy writers. (Same Thumbnail but the earth is in flame)
I have one for you. There is an inherent danger in writing a disaster story like a zombie-apocalypse or asteroid-hitting-earth sort of thing. In most apocalyptic or disaster movies, you walk away feeling let down. Those movies only have a certain height they can reach. And it all has to do with the Ordinary World. The Ordinary World or the Day In The Life Of part of the plot happens at the beginning before the Inciting Incident. It shows us the normal conflicts that the main characters deal with day to day. This ordinary world draws a baseline for the rest of the story: not only should the main conflict be more interesting and impactful than the Ordinary World, but the ending of the story--after the denouement and climax--will be the New Ordinary World. How the New OW and the Old OW differ says a lot a about your theme and it demonstrates how the characters changed. In Disaster movies and apocalyptic stories, the OW is often regular and somewhat peaceful while the New OW will be the planet nearly destroyed, a town covered in lava, zombies overtaking the population, or the world consumed by a huge flood. This means that the New OW will seem like a downgrade from the Old OW. It will almost always feel like a tragedy, and tragedies have an uphill battle since they are associated with bad endings. Even if the main character learned to love again and saved their family and pet dog from the alien hive mind, it will still probably not feel like a good ending. You might think that Zombie Land is an exception, but it actually doesn't have the same issue. The movie starts with the apocalypse already over; therefore, the New OW isn't tragic. At the beginning, Columbus is alone, at the end he has friends, a lover, and is more confident in himself. Success! So long story short, keep in mind how apocalypses will usually feel tragic, and maybe start your story after the world has already ended.
Great tips! One of the things I try to do for each scene is ask myself, "What does it feel like to actually be there?" I put myself in that moment and compare it to similar such moments or environments from my own experience, and I think about what it really was that I retained from that experience, with all senses and even distractions that might come up. Distraction itself can be a powerful link. Our minds make and run on associations, whether we are conscious of them at the time or not, and what may seem like an odd sensation to notice at the time can form an enduring memory later on. You don't necessarily have to stop and smell the roses. The roses will impose themselves upon you in some way nonetheless, even if you are not their intended contact. Perhaps, at the time, you will notice the swarming of bees, but then the smell of roses will seem to hum in your ears on another day.
1000% the thing about using more than just sight to describe a setting. You can paint an infinitely more vivid mental image when you use the other senses. For example, instead of just describing how a busy street market looks, mention the mouth-watering aroma of some nearby fried food, the music of a street performer barely making it through the multilingual cacophony of hundreds of voices, and the feeling of a stranger's dump truck ass accidentally brushing against the main character's hand as they hurriedly squeeze by.
Build Depth Through Synthesis: (Character, Setting, and Plot): Several years ago I was working on a book where I really fell in love with the characters. As I explored other worlds like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Avatar: The Last Airbender, I began thinking of ways to take my characters and "reincarnate them" into other fantasy worlds. I even began writing some drafts of these characters' story in these other worlds (just for my own amusement). I quickly came to a problem with this, however, as the characters didn't quite fit in these other worlds. Their morals changed slightly, their goals changed massively, their motivations changed. Furthermore, the worldbuilding was inherently different from the world of their origins. I had to develop new plots within these different worlds, and it was a fun writing exercise. I learned a lot about developing conflict and hardship, but it really wasn't until recently that I brought them back to their home world and rebooted the story that they really came alive. Characters emerge from the setting and drive the plot. If you change the setting, you lose core components of your character. If you change the plot, your characters lose their purpose. Even in my own life, I have come to find certain things in my story (setting) that were necessary for my own personal character development.
Ikr 😭 he always talks about how his main character pricks his finger and smears blood on his arrow to bind himself to the theives camp fire. God knows how many times I've heard that
Great summary! Originality comes from a fusion of curiosities. That's a great summary on creaticity in general! And using conflicting versions of history is also very much how our world evolves and there's a lot we can borrow, mutate, and develop into our own world story.
My book borrows the basic plotline of The Lion King. As a child I grew up with that movie.The writing (it's characters and themes) was fantastic, and I wanted to see what would happen if you took that classic story, and put a SoulsBourne-esque dark fantasy genre spin on it, with a negative character arc and a gothic fiction setting.
Thanks for defending tropes. When i'm looking for stories to read I look for tropes I like and it sucks seeing people diss em when there's nothing inherently wrong with them, like you said it's how you implement it.
The issue I have with them is when writers use them verbatum or not understand them... Like did the fun mentor have to die/ Does the hero need to fall right before a win? Yes they are just tool but like all tools in writing you must ask is it best for the story?
Rephrased as Questions (a helpful exercise, thought I'd share!) FIRES OF THE DEAD - Build unique magic with limitations - (how does your magic create conflict, rather than just solve it?) - Tailor your magic to create conflict - (will that create the sort of conflict you want for your story?) - Create unique worlds through combination - (do you have more, suitable, concepts?) ACROSS THE BROKEN STARS - Build depth with synthesis - (Theme = Character + Setting + Plot) - Adjust your world to improve your plot - (is your setting interesting enough to compliment the plot?) - Leave some things mysterious - (have you left yourself some options?) THE THUNDER HEIST - Originality comes from a fusion of curiosities - (is your combination unique?) - Consider the emotion - (does your setting support your theme by evoking emotion?) - Use non-visual senses - (what is it like otherwise to it’s appearance?) SIEGE OF TREBOULAIN - Extend the world past your story - (does it feel like your world is bigger than the story?) - Give us some rays of sunshine - (why would we want to go there?) - Liquid, not solid - (how has the world changed? How will it change?) KINGDOM OF DRAGONS - Use conflicting versions of history - (Is the “Accepted History” Accurate? How? Why?) - Use the plot to explore the world - (have you shocased your world through your plot?) - Enrich the background - (how did we get here?) - c/o Jed Herne
I love this video, because I can see the passion for these stories. The sheer excitement in the way the information is delivered makes me feel excited. This is in my opinion the greatest key to great writing, passion.
I think a lot of people have a hard time with exposition because they’re excited about telling people about their setting, but I think you are going to have to do a lot of work to world build than you will ever put down in a single story, if ever. Not every question needs to be asked. Leave yourself room to build more, or change something. And sometimes inconsistencies lead to some interesting narrative explorations. A suggestion I have is to have characters that come in and then leave, because they have their own lives and agendas that might intersect with the MC, but they’re on their own quests. John the cashier is on his own quest, but you’re only going to interact with him once, and Senator Christine might talk to you once because she needs you for something, but she also interacts with a thousand other people. How important is your character relative to the world? How important are important figures to the narrative? Where do they intersect and where do they leave?
I played through the free trial of The Siege Of Treboulain *however you spell it* and it is ABSOLUTELY AMAZING hopefully my mom will let me buy the full edition.
Amazing tips! And WOW, your pyromancy book sounds amazing. Love the idea of the ancestral flame hive mind. So unique. Putting it on my summer reading list right now!
Something just clicked for me on this video. I was agonizing over making my main character more interesting. I had two other POV characters who I thought had much more depth and complexity. What Jed said about making your character, your setting and your plot inextricably linked. Suddenly I had it, there was something in my worldbuilding that I could flip, just like his flip to 'disc worlds'. That had knock-on effects for the character and the plot that made it ten times more interesting to write and hopefully to read. Thanks for this one!
I'm playing around ideas and concept for a dark-fantasy Souls-like story. I absolutely have lost myself in the Soulsborne series for over a decade now, and want to try my hand with those gameplay concepts and adapt them to story format. Your videos are a tremendous help!
I guess I already use some of these! In an urban fantasy mystery series that I am still developing I feel as though the plot, characters, and setting are interlocked fairly well. Another story was born from a unique magic system I crafted, I gave it a logic and then explored what would happen when one of the conditions is different. In a large fantasy project (I am not sure how many books it will be) inspired by an ad for Endwalker, I have created history for the world, and also found a double explanation for a course of events in the past which leads to the basic conflict, with each story being half true. Some of my book ideas could perhaps use some help with the setting or some such aspect. I will definitely try your suggestion of enhancing the theme and adding favorite tropes to reinforce these stories.
Something tells me he's very proud of his pyromancy system, he always talks about his character shooting the flame and taking it out, haha. Always fun to hear about it, anyways. Sounds like a cool scene
A few points about the worldbuilding of the first book. 1: is it possible to link your blood to an ancestral fire, thus being able to directly draw from it and potentially extinguish? 2: the way I see this playing out is that actually everybody would probably have their own ancestral fire, but a few powerful families would seek to eliminate smaller ancestral fires, take the skulls and force the living to link with theirs to grow stronger and advertise a stronger fire. Over time, this would result in maybe a few hundred or so ancestral fires who are so important they're borderline untouchable and they become factions even with political power, as the peolle binded to these fires must do their bidding, resulting in these families having small armies to their command 3: is it literally that from where you get burned you can throw fire? What if you get burned at the belly area, or somewhere that cannot readily point frontwards like your whole arm? Does your arm become a fire sprinkler? Can you throw your entire self into the fire and, if you survive, become a human torch? What if you somehow suffer internal burns? XD Is it a literal "from the scars of being burned the fire originates" or is it more like a correlation of "the more you burn yourself, the greater the fire you can extract"? 4: about the whole if every fire a pyromancer is linked to dies he dies thing, does the primordial fire counts? As in, once you get burned by it, if it gets doused you die? How do pyromancers even survive if otherwise? They ever link to a fire they must have at least one up *all* of the time, else they might die. How do they manage that? Can you weaponize it by tracking and gaining control over a pyromancer's linked fires and use them to threaten them? Can a pyromancer start a fire with pyromancy, bleed into it and save themselves that way? Does a fire started on a bloodstain instantly link the pyromancer to that fire? How long until the blood no longer links, unless it is forever? Are flaming swords really really bad here because as soon as you make a small cut a pyromancer can just turn it off because now they're linked to the fire of the sword? XD I feel like I have more but in writing this comment I forgot LOL
Definitely join up to the reddit worldbuilding sub as well, a lot of great discussions going on there! Very knowledgeable people in there, especially about history and culture!
If you're writing a fantasy or sci fi novel, you really ought to read history. Game of Thrones is based on the Wars of the Roses. Dune is heavily based on The Sabres of Paradise, a book about Chechens fighting against Tzarist Russia. These worlds feel rich and detailed and real because they're based on real history.
Some awesome, solid advice. The pyromancer example is fire ^^ One thing I wanted to maybe suggest/add to the hard/soft worldbuilding: I think you can have very good hard worldbuilding but then just never tell people about it. Granted it works a bit better with visual mediums like Graphic Novels or films but if you have established once that you have thought about everything you can just introduce new concepts and the audience will know that you thought through everything and then there is that mystery of: What am I looking at/what is really going on below the hood. They know there is a reason, you are just not giving it - I have found that to be quite intriguing.
The first few advice don't apply to me since my magic system couldn't be any softer. There's good reason for it too. I started to make it a lot harder, but then I realized something. The only characters in my world who're using magic are those witches who typically occupy important places in society. Their role in my world is to represent that ominous force with an insane amount of influence and power that could represent a potential threat to any of my POV characters. As such, I thought it was more interesting to make them mysterious and leave the extent of the capabilities mainly unexplained, so they cast that sentiment of constant dread in the reader's mind. The rest, I'm definitely gonna keep in mind. I like your magic system in Fire of the Dead, btw, and the idea of a city powered by a giant tower that collects lightnings, in thunder heist, is great, too. Even without the chemicals in the air and the rain and stuff, I can picture a very unique atmosphere with the sound of thunder striking that tower at regular intervals. Very cool indeed.
Hey Jed, what service do you use for printing your books? Or what company do you recommend for printing nice looking hard cover indie books. I really like how the hard cover looks. Many thanks!
One way to know you've made an interesting magic system with your pyromancy is that my first thought was a what if question like "what IF you poured blood into an active volcano? or one of those semi-buried gas fires in the earth? would that always give you a bit of power (and keep you alive) or would it be too far removed and has to be man-made fire? or would the soft flames where lava touches not count as fire but still lava?" like just immediately looking around it to see any details and how it works and what might be possible either now or in the future of your story So in short: Good job ....also if you address any of this in this video i am like 10minutes in and commenting first because i wanna focus on the rest ✌✌
The non-visual senses are especially true if you are using anything involving animals or animalistic traits. There are some animals whose eyes are not as sharp/superior to their nose or ears.
I looked up an interesting fact about wings a couple of days ago for my story. A humans wings would have to be three times longer than their height. On a planet with earth-like gravity.
I am 80% done progressing with my current Y.A gothic fantasy novel (45,000 words in total) and i am not too confident with my setting and worldbuilding. It is a mix of Tolkien-Esque high fantasy, featuring elvens, with gothic fiction, taking place in a world of eternal night and darkness, which is overshadowed by twin moons, one lighter and one darker. I took cues from our own world with places like Antarctica (during winter) as well as the abyssal zones of the oceans, as well as treating it like an alien planet in a space opera book. I feature several SoulsBourne like boss monster fights in the book too, borrowing Dark Souls bosses for my book. My novel features no magic system whatsoever, since it isn't typically seen in gothic literature.
@SLENDRBOI I don't understand how it seems "immature" to me. I just care about experiencial consistency, rather than realistic, objective consistency with my worldbuilding. I am going for something like Spirited Away, rather than Game of Thrones, if that makes sense
@@nicholauscrawford7903 My moons feature internal bioluminescence, which is a key feature in my setting. All the plants and trees feature bioluminescence to some degree.
@SLENDRBOI What would Jed say about my worldbuilding premise, in your opinion? That said, the idea of a "promises land of eternal light" sounds like an idea I could include in a later draft. I am still working on the early version right now
@SLENDRBOI Overall, I am going for experiencial consistency, as opposed to a realistic, objective one, much like the movie Spirited Away, or other Studio Ghibli films. I wanted something that would seem striking and vivid from an aesthetic standpoint. I once saw a piece of artwork which features an abandoned, ancient tower juxopsed against a full bright moon at night. I thought how striking and memorable that image was, and I wanted to make the setting in my novel resemble that. The novel's setting is split into two periods, one is the diernal period, which is equivalent to daytime, and has the skies be green and yellow in coloration, with the moons tinged in yellow. Then there is no nocturnal period, which is nighttime, which is blue and black colors. My protagonist does wield a katana weapon too, even though the setting is European in aesthetic, featuring a gothic horror aesthetic to the setting.
I did a bit of coding when I was younger, so it all felt easy enough to pick up. There's only 10-20 key functions you need to learn so it's quite straightforward. Enjoy the story!
I would suggest to start making your videos less on the watchers book/WorldBuilding itself and focus on story structure, like the heroes journey, themes, etc. it would make your videos less like telling people how to write THEIR book and more like showing them the skeleton of a good story.
good ideas, i had an idea on some of those but actually hearing it helped me to focus my thoughts. But the biggest i got from this is that Kingdom of Dragons will have continuation. I like continuations, how the series + world + characters evolve over time adn im not a fan of one-shots, thats why im not interested in your previous work much. But im all in on dragon/human story, if its more mature than Paolinis Dragon Riders 4 book saga even better👍
Hey Jed, thank you for your videos. I have a question and since I've watched quite a few of your videos by now but haven't found one on the topic, I was wondering whether you could do a video on it or maybe answer in the comments. I'm 28 years old, I've started a book when I was 14 but never finished it. Graduated, work as a journalist (TV, Radio, Online) and this year I've started to take my second shot at completing the book I've always wanted to write. I would assume that I'm not the first one to have this feeling, however, while coming up with ideas and writing, I find myself realizing that many of the plot points and ideas actually just come from some of my favorite stories. Obviously I'm not rewriting other stories but I found that there are many similarities to character traits and themes. Now for the question: Am I just an uninspired talentless fraud? And how can I break out of that talentlessness? 😅 If you happen to read that comment and find the time to share your thoughts, that would be absolutely amazing. Thanks in advance and kind regards from Germany.
Hey, just wanted to share that most authors are avid readers who take inspiration from all the stories. And fun fact: a lot of authors deal with imposter syndrome! Including me 😅 Remember it's about your creativity and the spin that your personal touch leaves behind that makes your story unique. Don't give up! If you've come back after all these years, then you were meant to write this story and you're the only one who can. Best of luck!!
Question: i know this isn't exactly the right video to ask, but i figured the most recent would be best Is it ok to have multiple magic systems? I try to make them work and be understandable, but i kinda feel like each race i make has a seperate one and I'm not sure how people would like it Add-on edit: not all of the magics are available for the main character group. I can provide examples of the systems if necessary
Hey there! I thought I'd give you my two cents to this question... My experience with multiple magic systems in one setting is that people generally tend to lean towards liking it more than not, as long as it doesn't get too much at once. I got a setting I'm more or less working on by writing micro fiction as part of a writing group, and in that setting I got multiple magic systems as well. And no one I talked to about this setting complained about them. I think it can rather make your setting more interesting/unique. Hope that helps!
Hello Jed! I am a 11 year old author who published a short book. It would help me if you could kinda coach/advice me to market my book. Ik people are going to say to watch your marketing book video but i watched a ton of those and i cant really understand it. I hope your up to it to coach me! 🤞🤞🤞🤞 would help if you could like this comment so jed can see it
Quick question: For a book series I’m working on, I am unsure of the way I should talk about the magic system as it is quite in depth. Should I have a page outlining what is possible Within the MS or should I just showcase what is doable throughout the story? As there is quite a bit that specialized abilities for each race.
Not Jed, but if you want to listen to my suggestion regardless, I would say, generally most people want to piece these things together on their own as they read through the story. Very often that sort of information, when condensed like that, would read as an info dump if included in the main narrative. However, you could try writing up that page and see what it looks like. If you want to include it in the book I would suggest having it as an appendix of sorts, making it voluntary reading for the specially interested without potentially bogging down the story for those who are less inclined. Just my two cents. Edit: reading through your comment again I see you saying it's for a series. In that case a page like that to keep track of everything might not be a bad idea, if for nothing else than your own sake. For the readers' sake it might be nice to have as an appendix, either at the beginning or end of the book, separate from the main narrative as a reference of sorts. Ultimately this seems like something beta readers can help with by discussing with them whether they find it helpful or not.
Imo, many readers will skip over the large paragraphs of information like that until it actually becomes relevant to the story/plot. I agree with the previous commenter, put it in as an appendix or glossary section like the Wheel of Time series and several others have done. It will probably be very useful for you in the long run. Maybe the one in the book doesn't need to be as detailed as your personal copy, either, so spoilers aren't given away. Good luck!
Imagine writing a water wizard, that can control water. But he ONLY manifests glasses of water🚰 limitations don’t just make the writing more interesting because you’re forced to think creatively they can also spontaneosly produce funny scenarios. like at some point during a fight the villain gets thirsty and the water wizard just walks up to him and hands him a glass of water before smashing shards in his face 😂
I mean it's more like like badly would a water wizard working the same way as the fire wizard would dacmate the fire kingdom if on a planet like earth... Then again you can balance them by being Remote clans, naval nomads or just have water be rare... Now earlth and air would be harder to balance... But yeah my main issue is why is the magic only fire? It can be written well but is their artleast a hint of why? Like was it the first or something then they'll be a collapse if water came and rolf stumped them?
Very cool, Can you review my idea of a magic system? People are able to absorb a specific type of element in their stomach(/lungs for wind ) Such as fire, earth, water, and wind. Only specific subspecies can absorb certain elements So how the magic works is that they can only use spells that use their specific element . Each spell uses up some of the absorbed element based on potency, strength, and size. With it increasing along side the others increasing in cost. People have created supplements for people to use spells that are for other elements (e.g. an earth caster can manipulate fire temporarily), but it can have dangerous costs such as absorbency deficiency, which results in the caster finding it difficult to absorb their element . There are other humanoid species who can use magic too, but have been hunted to endangerment by humans because… humans. Wind casters are most common because the air is the most potent thing people can absorb constantly . It’s only drawback is the difficult to balance air for spells, and air for the body .
I have... accidentally created a magic system where certain characters lose the ability to cast spells if their left hand is cut off. This was not intended; it was a side-effect created by some of the other rules of the system. Now I just have to decide which of my characters will suffer from this.
Your writing system does have a massive flaw... No room for expanstion of each element. Take star wars for exemple you can 100 take Luke skywalker out of the setting and have him be himself and you can write littlery any story into star wars... Another exemple Superman and most super heroes though the world less so the man more so... Like tyour system the lord of the rings system is good for one of stories but beyond that they become impossible to write just ask RR martine how the next book for ice and ifire is going noow he wrote elden rings story which to has that flaw.
I don’t particularly see this in the worlds you talk about. For example,the whole plot line for Smaug is quite different from the siege of the white city no? Or even Galadriel’s story, it was rather different. You can say the same for the other worlds. Why can’t you write a story in the perspective of a different character? RR Martin’s books show numerous perspectives. He can arguably stick to 1 and still have a compelling story and make other perspectives an entirely different one.
@@aix83 Pokemon has endless room for expansion and it's magic is much harder. Also the anime, games and manga each have a unique plot and characters with the same designs and near similar world.
@@Rusher-VGC I not talking about that which I could write fan fic or og story set in an alternate across the stars setting during the events of the book but based on this video I doudt I could write a squal if asked to... The world is to limited based on this chart 10:44... Very much the Problem RR martin is having with his own world of an ice and fire which the book he is currently writing is taking longer then the entire development of eldin ring which he wrote the lore too... It was made using this Lord of the rings esk taquic where you can have all the lore in the world that only has one good story... Did even Tolken intend this? No... He didn't he wanted a modern myth of eons of lore... But how many times have anyone set a story with the eleves before the one ring was made? Or heck during the events of one ring's creation? Or like how many stories are their of Gandalf in his youth becoming a wizard or gheck showing what he was doing doing the main events of the setting? Like the world map is very much based on froto and freinds quest and not maiking a sand box for anyone to play in... Like admitly sci-fi is outstanding at but I see no reason fantasy can't to... Case in poit all the D&D settings and Warhammeer fantasy. even with Warhammer having a definitive end to it... You can still write freely in any part of the world at any time and you cahn even write what if the bad guys lost but the end times were brutal... Whith the writing style showed at again 10:44 and across the video if you take one element out like the characters is it even the same theme? I guess he could mean the same book by theme... Which is fine is A new hope tghe same movie if it was just Obi wan and Yoda going on the same advanture? No but it would be star wars and I belive Jeb argues it would not be. Which is silly given what ifs and corss overs.. Like Superman in RWBY was still Super Man even though he was watered down to not be OP in RWBY's universe. And for your point you did and like you said he did but I bet he won't easly be able to write another story in that world even at the same time period as though new charathers and plot would not be the same as the OG book... Which is my point you can write this way and I do consider Jeb a great writer but you must be awear of that flaw or con if you will that down side of that style.
I hate reading books with smut, if that’s what you mean. But romance is straight up just an important part of the human experience, and has characters organically make themselves vulnerable to not only each other, but also the reader, for deeper connection.
@SLENDRBOI it feels like reading porn, which it usually is. Sorry if that’s not a full psychoanalysis, it just feels odd to read or weirdly written to me. Embarassment doesn’t really play a part in it. If a book has one or two smut scenes I probably won’t care in the grand scheme of things, but I don’t often find that it adds much by being explicitly shown. I’m sure it can be done in a way that benefits the story, and if you enjoy it more generally then sure, whatever.
@SLENDRBOI It’s hard to call it objectively wrong or anything, and I don’t really care to do so, I just personally don’t like it. In terms of psychological/hormonal impact, afaik all the evidence points to negative effects and it’s very obviously addictive, but being honest that’s not the real reason I dislike it in books. I don’t think examining this question further will lead to any great revelation or change in my views on it - not that they’re extreme/strict views anyway. As I said in my other reply, it usually feels weird to read or oddly written, and often doesn’t add much by being there explicitly rather than implied.
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I misread the thumbnail as "World Ending" and now I'm curious on 15 Advanced World-ending Techniques for fantasy writers. (Same Thumbnail but the earth is in flame)
Fantasy apocalypse ideas now I want to watch one
Lmao that last bit made me chortle
I have one for you.
There is an inherent danger in writing a disaster story like a zombie-apocalypse or asteroid-hitting-earth sort of thing.
In most apocalyptic or disaster movies, you walk away feeling let down. Those movies only have a certain height they can reach. And it all has to do with the Ordinary World.
The Ordinary World or the Day In The Life Of part of the plot happens at the beginning before the Inciting Incident. It shows us the normal conflicts that the main characters deal with day to day.
This ordinary world draws a baseline for the rest of the story: not only should the main conflict be more interesting and impactful than the Ordinary World, but the ending of the story--after the denouement and climax--will be the New Ordinary World.
How the New OW and the Old OW differ says a lot a about your theme and it demonstrates how the characters changed.
In Disaster movies and apocalyptic stories, the OW is often regular and somewhat peaceful while the New OW will be the planet nearly destroyed, a town covered in lava, zombies overtaking the population, or the world consumed by a huge flood.
This means that the New OW will seem like a downgrade from the Old OW. It will almost always feel like a tragedy, and tragedies have an uphill battle since they are associated with bad endings. Even if the main character learned to love again and saved their family and pet dog from the alien hive mind, it will still probably not feel like a good ending.
You might think that Zombie Land is an exception, but it actually doesn't have the same issue.
The movie starts with the apocalypse already over; therefore, the New OW isn't tragic. At the beginning, Columbus is alone, at the end he has friends, a lover, and is more confident in himself. Success!
So long story short, keep in mind how apocalypses will usually feel tragic, and maybe start your story after the world has already ended.
@@devsarang1253 The Warhammer fantasy end times novels exsit... But I can't say they did it well.
Didn’t expect to see @BirdKeeperToby in these comments, but a pleasant surprise indeed
Great tips! One of the things I try to do for each scene is ask myself, "What does it feel like to actually be there?" I put myself in that moment and compare it to similar such moments or environments from my own experience, and I think about what it really was that I retained from that experience, with all senses and even distractions that might come up.
Distraction itself can be a powerful link. Our minds make and run on associations, whether we are conscious of them at the time or not, and what may seem like an odd sensation to notice at the time can form an enduring memory later on.
You don't necessarily have to stop and smell the roses. The roses will impose themselves upon you in some way nonetheless, even if you are not their intended contact. Perhaps, at the time, you will notice the swarming of bees, but then the smell of roses will seem to hum in your ears on another day.
Just in time worlds channel has a great catalog of world building vids; not just a quick one off like many channel's.
Thanks Jed!
What channel?
@@noelogden1625 "Just in time worlds"
Jed also has a great catalog, though! It's just less focused on the subject.
@noelogden1625 Just in time worlds is the name
1000% the thing about using more than just sight to describe a setting. You can paint an infinitely more vivid mental image when you use the other senses. For example, instead of just describing how a busy street market looks, mention the mouth-watering aroma of some nearby fried food, the music of a street performer barely making it through the multilingual cacophony of hundreds of voices, and the feeling of a stranger's dump truck ass accidentally brushing against the main character's hand as they hurriedly squeeze by.
You had me at dump truck ass. 😂
Great imagery!
The last one definitely comes from personal experience lmfao
Build Depth Through Synthesis: (Character, Setting, and Plot):
Several years ago I was working on a book where I really fell in love with the characters. As I explored other worlds like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Avatar: The Last Airbender, I began thinking of ways to take my characters and "reincarnate them" into other fantasy worlds. I even began writing some drafts of these characters' story in these other worlds (just for my own amusement). I quickly came to a problem with this, however, as the characters didn't quite fit in these other worlds. Their morals changed slightly, their goals changed massively, their motivations changed. Furthermore, the worldbuilding was inherently different from the world of their origins.
I had to develop new plots within these different worlds, and it was a fun writing exercise. I learned a lot about developing conflict and hardship, but it really wasn't until recently that I brought them back to their home world and rebooted the story that they really came alive. Characters emerge from the setting and drive the plot. If you change the setting, you lose core components of your character. If you change the plot, your characters lose their purpose. Even in my own life, I have come to find certain things in my story (setting) that were necessary for my own personal character development.
Can we have another magic system competition? Don't even need a prize.
I've a new drinking game proposal. Drink each time Jed boasts about his fire magic system.
Ikr 😭 he always talks about how his main character pricks his finger and smears blood on his arrow to bind himself to the theives camp fire.
God knows how many times I've heard that
To be fair, it IS pretty cool. And a good example of the power system principle. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it I suppose.
It’s cool too so we can’t get mad 😭
@@ramenhokage8855 it literally made me question if I'd already watched this vid and almost clicked off
If it was a drinking game about boastful vibes in general, we would simply die
Great summary! Originality comes from a fusion of curiosities. That's a great summary on creaticity in general! And using conflicting versions of history is also very much how our world evolves and there's a lot we can borrow, mutate, and develop into our own world story.
My book borrows the basic plotline of The Lion King. As a child I grew up with that movie.The writing (it's characters and themes) was fantastic, and I wanted to see what would happen if you took that classic story, and put a SoulsBourne-esque dark fantasy genre spin on it, with a negative character arc and a gothic fiction setting.
Thanks for defending tropes. When i'm looking for stories to read I look for tropes I like and it sucks seeing people diss em when there's nothing inherently wrong with them, like you said it's how you implement it.
The issue I have with them is when writers use them verbatum or not understand them... Like did the fun mentor have to die/ Does the hero need to fall right before a win? Yes they are just tool but like all tools in writing you must ask is it best for the story?
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough I think a good majority of tropes can be used for good, like any tool it depends on how you use them.
@@Gaia_Gaistar Very true and even bad tropes can be written well.
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough Insert fridging as a backstory for the Doomslayer here.
Literally, 90% has a trope😂
Ppl just wanna seem different by saying tropes suck
Would love to hear you talk about soft magic systems and low magic fantasy!
Rephrased as Questions (a helpful exercise, thought I'd share!)
FIRES OF THE DEAD
- Build unique magic with limitations - (how does your magic create conflict, rather than just solve it?)
- Tailor your magic to create conflict - (will that create the sort of conflict you want for your story?)
- Create unique worlds through combination - (do you have more, suitable, concepts?)
ACROSS THE BROKEN STARS
- Build depth with synthesis - (Theme = Character + Setting + Plot)
- Adjust your world to improve your plot - (is your setting interesting enough to compliment the plot?)
- Leave some things mysterious - (have you left yourself some options?)
THE THUNDER HEIST
- Originality comes from a fusion of curiosities - (is your combination unique?)
- Consider the emotion - (does your setting support your theme by evoking emotion?)
- Use non-visual senses - (what is it like otherwise to it’s appearance?)
SIEGE OF TREBOULAIN
- Extend the world past your story - (does it feel like your world is bigger than the story?)
- Give us some rays of sunshine - (why would we want to go there?)
- Liquid, not solid - (how has the world changed? How will it change?)
KINGDOM OF DRAGONS
- Use conflicting versions of history - (Is the “Accepted History” Accurate? How? Why?)
- Use the plot to explore the world - (have you shocased your world through your plot?)
- Enrich the background - (how did we get here?)
- c/o Jed Herne
I love this video, because I can see the passion for these stories. The sheer excitement in the way the information is delivered makes me feel excited. This is in my opinion the greatest key to great writing, passion.
I think a lot of people have a hard time with exposition because they’re excited about telling people about their setting, but I think you are going to have to do a lot of work to world build than you will ever put down in a single story, if ever. Not every question needs to be asked. Leave yourself room to build more, or change something. And sometimes inconsistencies lead to some interesting narrative explorations.
A suggestion I have is to have characters that come in and then leave, because they have their own lives and agendas that might intersect with the MC, but they’re on their own quests. John the cashier is on his own quest, but you’re only going to interact with him once, and Senator Christine might talk to you once because she needs you for something, but she also interacts with a thousand other people. How important is your character relative to the world? How important are important figures to the narrative? Where do they intersect and where do they leave?
@@rchom I have a very bottom up approach to worldbuilding, meaning I make up some aspects of it as I write my book
I played through the free trial of The Siege Of Treboulain *however you spell it* and it is ABSOLUTELY AMAZING hopefully my mom will let me buy the full edition.
Amazing tips! And WOW, your pyromancy book sounds amazing. Love the idea of the ancestral flame hive mind. So unique. Putting it on my summer reading list right now!
You took a leap of faith, and I praise your bravery. Thank you for sharing with us your experience.
Something just clicked for me on this video. I was agonizing over making my main character more interesting. I had two other POV characters who I thought had much more depth and complexity. What Jed said about making your character, your setting and your plot inextricably linked. Suddenly I had it, there was something in my worldbuilding that I could flip, just like his flip to 'disc worlds'. That had knock-on effects for the character and the plot that made it ten times more interesting to write and hopefully to read. Thanks for this one!
Some great advice! Particularly with regards to layering in other senses, and using other methods to world build instead of info dumping.
I'm playing around ideas and concept for a dark-fantasy Souls-like story. I absolutely have lost myself in the Soulsborne series for over a decade now, and want to try my hand with those gameplay concepts and adapt them to story format. Your videos are a tremendous help!
Jed hahah, you really love that scene of ambush to the savages. This is the third time🎉
Even dystopias should have something salvageable in them. Otherwise, readers won't really care what happens.
Loved seeing the examples from your own books along with these tips. Great video!
I guess I already use some of these!
In an urban fantasy mystery series that I am still developing I feel as though the plot, characters, and setting are interlocked fairly well.
Another story was born from a unique magic system I crafted, I gave it a logic and then explored what would happen when one of the conditions is different.
In a large fantasy project (I am not sure how many books it will be) inspired by an ad for Endwalker, I have created history for the world, and also found a double explanation for a course of events in the past which leads to the basic conflict, with each story being half true.
Some of my book ideas could perhaps use some help with the setting or some such aspect. I will definitely try your suggestion of enhancing the theme and adding favorite tropes to reinforce these stories.
If only Jed Herne realized he is helping me cook one of the best fantasy novels in history.
Let me know how it tastes.
I love the confidence
@@deckardcanine success? I don't know if I'll remember to tell you when i achieve it.
@@muggsysfilmreviews190 thanks
@SLENDRBOI i didn't miss anything
Something tells me he's very proud of his pyromancy system, he always talks about his character shooting the flame and taking it out, haha.
Always fun to hear about it, anyways. Sounds like a cool scene
A few points about the worldbuilding of the first book.
1: is it possible to link your blood to an ancestral fire, thus being able to directly draw from it and potentially extinguish?
2: the way I see this playing out is that actually everybody would probably have their own ancestral fire, but a few powerful families would seek to eliminate smaller ancestral fires, take the skulls and force the living to link with theirs to grow stronger and advertise a stronger fire. Over time, this would result in maybe a few hundred or so ancestral fires who are so important they're borderline untouchable and they become factions even with political power, as the peolle binded to these fires must do their bidding, resulting in these families having small armies to their command
3: is it literally that from where you get burned you can throw fire? What if you get burned at the belly area, or somewhere that cannot readily point frontwards like your whole arm? Does your arm become a fire sprinkler? Can you throw your entire self into the fire and, if you survive, become a human torch? What if you somehow suffer internal burns? XD Is it a literal "from the scars of being burned the fire originates" or is it more like a correlation of "the more you burn yourself, the greater the fire you can extract"?
4: about the whole if every fire a pyromancer is linked to dies he dies thing, does the primordial fire counts? As in, once you get burned by it, if it gets doused you die? How do pyromancers even survive if otherwise? They ever link to a fire they must have at least one up *all* of the time, else they might die. How do they manage that? Can you weaponize it by tracking and gaining control over a pyromancer's linked fires and use them to threaten them? Can a pyromancer start a fire with pyromancy, bleed into it and save themselves that way? Does a fire started on a bloodstain instantly link the pyromancer to that fire? How long until the blood no longer links, unless it is forever? Are flaming swords really really bad here because as soon as you make a small cut a pyromancer can just turn it off because now they're linked to the fire of the sword? XD
I feel like I have more but in writing this comment I forgot LOL
Great tips and your right they are advanced!
Definitely join up to the reddit worldbuilding sub as well, a lot of great discussions going on there! Very knowledgeable people in there, especially about history and culture!
your ancestor bonfire system is very similar to dark souls, love it
If you're writing a fantasy or sci fi novel, you really ought to read history. Game of Thrones is based on the Wars of the Roses. Dune is heavily based on The Sabres of Paradise, a book about Chechens fighting against Tzarist Russia. These worlds feel rich and detailed and real because they're based on real history.
Some awesome, solid advice. The pyromancer example is fire ^^
One thing I wanted to maybe suggest/add to the hard/soft worldbuilding: I think you can have very good hard worldbuilding but then just never tell people about it. Granted it works a bit better with visual mediums like Graphic Novels or films but if you have established once that you have thought about everything you can just introduce new concepts and the audience will know that you thought through everything and then there is that mystery of: What am I looking at/what is really going on below the hood. They know there is a reason, you are just not giving it - I have found that to be quite intriguing.
The first few advice don't apply to me since my magic system couldn't be any softer.
There's good reason for it too. I started to make it a lot harder, but then I realized something. The only characters in my world who're using magic are those witches who typically occupy important places in society. Their role in my world is to represent that ominous force with an insane amount of influence and power that could represent a potential threat to any of my POV characters. As such, I thought it was more interesting to make them mysterious and leave the extent of the capabilities mainly unexplained, so they cast that sentiment of constant dread in the reader's mind.
The rest, I'm definitely gonna keep in mind.
I like your magic system in Fire of the Dead, btw, and the idea of a city powered by a giant tower that collects lightnings, in thunder heist, is great, too. Even without the chemicals in the air and the rain and stuff, I can picture a very unique atmosphere with the sound of thunder striking that tower at regular intervals.
Very cool indeed.
The pryomancer book is one of my favorite magic systems. You should write a longer novel, or series, with it
ACROSS THE BROKEN STARS sounds a little like a comic I've been "planning". I need to read it!!
Hey Jed, what service do you use for printing your books? Or what company do you recommend for printing nice looking hard cover indie books. I really like how the hard cover looks. Many thanks!
that lantern linked to a soul thing reminds me a lot of Over The Garden Wall
One way to know you've made an interesting magic system with your pyromancy is that my first thought was a what if question
like
"what IF you poured blood into an active volcano? or one of those semi-buried gas fires in the earth? would that always give you a bit of power (and keep you alive) or would it be too far removed and has to be man-made fire? or would the soft flames where lava touches not count as fire but still lava?" like just immediately looking around it to see any details and how it works and what might be possible either now or in the future of your story
So in short: Good job
....also if you address any of this in this video i am like 10minutes in and commenting first because i wanna focus on the rest ✌✌
Damn, I had not thought about the volcano idea at all. That's a cool concept!
Jed! You are back! It's been so long... So long! (Old Peggy Carter sad face)
To me, Fires of the dead is the most grim fairytale I've ever read. I loved it...
The non-visual senses are especially true if you are using anything involving animals or animalistic traits. There are some animals whose eyes are not as sharp/superior to their nose or ears.
I looked up an interesting fact about wings a couple of days ago for my story. A humans wings would have to be three times longer than their height. On a planet with earth-like gravity.
Who else thinks the baby dragon is cute in that illustration of Rovan bonding with it?
New to you channel and am really enjoying and learning a lot. Great presentations and insight
Thank you so much !! ❤🙏
I am 80% done progressing with my current Y.A gothic fantasy novel (45,000 words in total) and i am not too confident with my setting and worldbuilding. It is a mix of Tolkien-Esque high fantasy, featuring elvens, with gothic fiction, taking place in a world of eternal night and darkness, which is overshadowed by twin moons, one lighter and one darker. I took cues from our own world with places like Antarctica (during winter) as well as the abyssal zones of the oceans, as well as treating it like an alien planet in a space opera book. I feature several SoulsBourne like boss monster fights in the book too, borrowing Dark Souls bosses for my book.
My novel features no magic system whatsoever, since it isn't typically seen in gothic literature.
One question: how can the moons have any light at all without a sun?
@SLENDRBOI I don't understand how it seems "immature" to me. I just care about experiencial consistency, rather than realistic, objective consistency with my worldbuilding.
I am going for something like Spirited Away, rather than Game of Thrones, if that makes sense
@@nicholauscrawford7903 My moons feature internal bioluminescence, which is a key feature in my setting. All the plants and trees feature bioluminescence to some degree.
@SLENDRBOI What would Jed say about my worldbuilding premise, in your opinion?
That said, the idea of a "promises land of eternal light" sounds like an idea I could include in a later draft. I am still working on the early version right now
@SLENDRBOI Overall, I am going for experiencial consistency, as opposed to a realistic, objective one, much like the movie Spirited Away, or other Studio Ghibli films. I wanted something that would seem striking and vivid from an aesthetic standpoint. I once saw a piece of artwork which features an abandoned, ancient tower juxopsed against a full bright moon at night. I thought how striking and memorable that image was, and I wanted to make the setting in my novel resemble that.
The novel's setting is split into two periods, one is the diernal period, which is equivalent to daytime, and has the skies be green and yellow in coloration, with the moons tinged in yellow. Then there is no nocturnal period, which is nighttime, which is blue and black colors.
My protagonist does wield a katana weapon too, even though the setting is European in aesthetic, featuring a gothic horror aesthetic to the setting.
Thanks for the tips
I've been a huge fan of choice of games for years. Can't wait to try yours out. Did you have a hard time learning their unique programing language?
I did a bit of coding when I was younger, so it all felt easy enough to pick up. There's only 10-20 key functions you need to learn so it's quite straightforward. Enjoy the story!
I would suggest to start making your videos less on the watchers book/WorldBuilding itself and focus on story structure, like the heroes journey, themes, etc. it would make your videos less like telling people how to write THEIR book and more like showing them the skeleton of a good story.
good ideas, i had an idea on some of those but actually hearing it helped me to focus my thoughts. But the biggest i got from this is that Kingdom of Dragons will have continuation. I like continuations, how the series + world + characters evolve over time adn im not a fan of one-shots, thats why im not interested in your previous work much.
But im all in on dragon/human story, if its more mature than Paolinis Dragon Riders 4 book saga even better👍
does 'combination' really make something unique ?
Thank you, Jed. I'm not sure if you'll answer this, but where would I get a copy of the graphic you share at 1:52? It would be helpful. Thank you!
Hey Jed, thank you for your videos. I have a question and since I've watched quite a few of your videos by now but haven't found one on the topic, I was wondering whether you could do a video on it or maybe answer in the comments.
I'm 28 years old, I've started a book when I was 14 but never finished it. Graduated, work as a journalist (TV, Radio, Online) and this year I've started to take my second shot at completing the book I've always wanted to write.
I would assume that I'm not the first one to have this feeling, however, while coming up with ideas and writing, I find myself realizing that many of the plot points and ideas actually just come from some of my favorite stories. Obviously I'm not rewriting other stories but I found that there are many similarities to character traits and themes.
Now for the question: Am I just an uninspired talentless fraud? And how can I break out of that talentlessness? 😅
If you happen to read that comment and find the time to share your thoughts, that would be absolutely amazing. Thanks in advance and kind regards from Germany.
Hey, just wanted to share that most authors are avid readers who take inspiration from all the stories. And fun fact: a lot of authors deal with imposter syndrome! Including me 😅 Remember it's about your creativity and the spin that your personal touch leaves behind that makes your story unique. Don't give up! If you've come back after all these years, then you were meant to write this story and you're the only one who can. Best of luck!!
4:13 interesting concept, i thought something similar cause im a chef with horribly scarred hands🤣 yhey took a bath in a deep fryer one day🤷🏾♂️
Interesting way to plug and promote your books haha.
Just kidding, this is still very welcome.
Fire magic system idea what if it works in three ways you take energy from you give energy to and manipulate energy
Cool video. Keep it up. Are you going to release an audiobook for Kingdom of Dragons?
BTW, the difference in your smile when you are talking about something you enjoy vs. talking about stuff you don't like is noticeable.
do you promote the books your students have published? I've never seen it.. I'm curious
Question: i know this isn't exactly the right video to ask, but i figured the most recent would be best
Is it ok to have multiple magic systems? I try to make them work and be understandable, but i kinda feel like each race i make has a seperate one and I'm not sure how people would like it
Add-on edit: not all of the magics are available for the main character group. I can provide examples of the systems if necessary
Hey there! I thought I'd give you my two cents to this question...
My experience with multiple magic systems in one setting is that people generally tend to lean towards liking it more than not, as long as it doesn't get too much at once. I got a setting I'm more or less working on by writing micro fiction as part of a writing group, and in that setting I got multiple magic systems as well. And no one I talked to about this setting complained about them. I think it can rather make your setting more interesting/unique.
Hope that helps!
Hello Jed! I am a 11 year old author who published a short book. It would help me if you could kinda coach/advice me to market my book. Ik people are going to say to watch your marketing book video but i watched a ton of those and i cant really understand it. I hope your up to it to coach me! 🤞🤞🤞🤞
would help if you could like this comment so jed can see it
Quick question: For a book series I’m working on, I am unsure of the way I should talk about the magic system as it is quite in depth. Should I have a page outlining what is possible Within the MS or should I just showcase what is doable throughout the story? As there is quite a bit that specialized abilities for each race.
Not Jed, but if you want to listen to my suggestion regardless, I would say, generally most people want to piece these things together on their own as they read through the story. Very often that sort of information, when condensed like that, would read as an info dump if included in the main narrative.
However, you could try writing up that page and see what it looks like.
If you want to include it in the book I would suggest having it as an appendix of sorts, making it voluntary reading for the specially interested without potentially bogging down the story for those who are less inclined.
Just my two cents.
Edit: reading through your comment again I see you saying it's for a series. In that case a page like that to keep track of everything might not be a bad idea, if for nothing else than your own sake. For the readers' sake it might be nice to have as an appendix, either at the beginning or end of the book, separate from the main narrative as a reference of sorts. Ultimately this seems like something beta readers can help with by discussing with them whether they find it helpful or not.
Imo, many readers will skip over the large paragraphs of information like that until it actually becomes relevant to the story/plot. I agree with the previous commenter, put it in as an appendix or glossary section like the Wheel of Time series and several others have done. It will probably be very useful for you in the long run. Maybe the one in the book doesn't need to be as detailed as your personal copy, either, so spoilers aren't given away. Good luck!
Hi Jed, I would love if you could give an opinion on the mushoku tensei worldbuilding. Wanna know your thoughts about it.
Can you make a video on how to create a theme for your story.
Any plans for a story about ancestral waters in that world?
self glazing, thats crazy
Nothing wrong with being proud of what you’ve written dude
Wouldn't limiting your magic system too much basically create a plot McGuffin?
Imagine writing a water wizard, that can control water. But he ONLY manifests glasses of water🚰
limitations don’t just make the writing more interesting because you’re forced to think creatively they can also spontaneosly produce funny scenarios. like at some point during a fight the villain gets thirsty and the water wizard just walks up to him and hands him a glass of water before smashing shards in his face 😂
I mean it's more like like badly would a water wizard working the same way as the fire wizard would dacmate the fire kingdom if on a planet like earth... Then again you can balance them by being Remote clans, naval nomads or just have water be rare... Now earlth and air would be harder to balance... But yeah my main issue is why is the magic only fire? It can be written well but is their artleast a hint of why? Like was it the first or something then they'll be a collapse if water came and rolf stumped them?
Mythril Reed Pod in Sugar Apple Fairy Tale is born from a water droplet, and can manifest about as much water.
@@AcanthaDante the name alone sells me lol
Me who went with the bookshelf format for my fictional universe
Very cool,
Can you review my idea of a magic system?
People are able to absorb a specific type of element in their stomach(/lungs for wind )
Such as fire, earth, water, and wind.
Only specific subspecies can absorb certain elements
So how the magic works is that they can only use spells that use their specific element . Each spell uses up some of the absorbed element based on potency, strength, and size. With it increasing along side the others increasing in cost.
People have created supplements for people to use spells that are for other elements (e.g. an earth caster can manipulate fire temporarily), but it can have dangerous costs such as absorbency deficiency, which results in the caster finding it difficult to absorb their element .
There are other humanoid species who can use magic too, but have been hunted to endangerment by humans because… humans.
Wind casters are most common because the air is the most potent thing people can absorb constantly . It’s only drawback is the difficult to balance air for spells, and air for the body .
I really want to see this reviewed please, i don’t mind if you take it for a future book, as long as the main character is an earth caster
Did the group notice the arrow being fired into the campfire?
I have... accidentally created a magic system where certain characters lose the ability to cast spells if their left hand is cut off. This was not intended; it was a side-effect created by some of the other rules of the system. Now I just have to decide which of my characters will suffer from this.
Create a character named Luke and have him suffer this fate.
How do you find the motivation to write when you just don't feel like it?
About the fire thing, could you burn your organs or heart?????
I love this video and its ideas. But I wish you'd talk about other books than your own because it feels like a big sales pitch
Nihilism doesnt mean sadness or negativity, FYI
Intresting video but your piromancy system is bad (i dont think is bad like boring but in my point of view is sometimes unusable but fascinating)
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I hate magic systems
Your writing system does have a massive flaw... No room for expanstion of each element. Take star wars for exemple you can 100 take Luke skywalker out of the setting and have him be himself and you can write littlery any story into star wars... Another exemple Superman and most super heroes though the world less so the man more so... Like tyour system the lord of the rings system is good for one of stories but beyond that they become impossible to write just ask RR martine how the next book for ice and ifire is going noow he wrote elden rings story which to has that flaw.
I don’t particularly see this in the worlds you talk about.
For example,the whole plot line for Smaug is quite different from the siege of the white city no? Or even Galadriel’s story, it was rather different.
You can say the same for the other worlds. Why can’t you write a story in the perspective of a different character?
RR Martin’s books show numerous perspectives. He can arguably stick to 1 and still have a compelling story and make other perspectives an entirely different one.
star wars is soft magic, Jed talks about hard magic systems
@@aix83 Pokemon has endless room for expansion and it's magic is much harder. Also the anime, games and manga each have a unique plot and characters with the same designs and near similar world.
@@Rusher-VGC I not talking about that which I could write fan fic or og story set in an alternate across the stars setting during the events of the book but based on this video I doudt I could write a squal if asked to... The world is to limited based on this chart 10:44... Very much the Problem RR martin is having with his own world of an ice and fire which the book he is currently writing is taking longer then the entire development of eldin ring which he wrote the lore too... It was made using this Lord of the rings esk taquic where you can have all the lore in the world that only has one good story... Did even Tolken intend this? No... He didn't he wanted a modern myth of eons of lore... But how many times have anyone set a story with the eleves before the one ring was made? Or heck during the events of one ring's creation? Or like how many stories are their of Gandalf in his youth becoming a wizard or gheck showing what he was doing doing the main events of the setting? Like the world map is very much based on froto and freinds quest and not maiking a sand box for anyone to play in... Like admitly sci-fi is outstanding at but I see no reason fantasy can't to... Case in poit all the D&D settings and Warhammeer fantasy. even with Warhammer having a definitive end to it... You can still write freely in any part of the world at any time and you cahn even write what if the bad guys lost but the end times were brutal... Whith the writing style showed at again 10:44 and across the video if you take one element out like the characters is it even the same theme? I guess he could mean the same book by theme... Which is fine is A new hope tghe same movie if it was just Obi wan and Yoda going on the same advanture? No but it would be star wars and I belive Jeb argues it would not be. Which is silly given what ifs and corss overs.. Like Superman in RWBY was still Super Man even though he was watered down to not be OP in RWBY's universe. And for your point you did and like you said he did but I bet he won't easly be able to write another story in that world even at the same time period as though new charathers and plot would not be the same as the OG book... Which is my point you can write this way and I do consider Jeb a great writer but you must be awear of that flaw or con if you will that down side of that style.
If I see any romance or lust of any sort in a story I'm disgusted and disappointed.
Meanwhile in Hollywood... "The guy must always get the girl."
I hate reading books with smut, if that’s what you mean. But romance is straight up just an important part of the human experience, and has characters organically make themselves vulnerable to not only each other, but also the reader, for deeper connection.
@SLENDRBOI it feels like reading porn, which it usually is. Sorry if that’s not a full psychoanalysis, it just feels odd to read or weirdly written to me. Embarassment doesn’t really play a part in it.
If a book has one or two smut scenes I probably won’t care in the grand scheme of things, but I don’t often find that it adds much by being explicitly shown. I’m sure it can be done in a way that benefits the story, and if you enjoy it more generally then sure, whatever.
@SLENDRBOI It’s hard to call it objectively wrong or anything, and I don’t really care to do so, I just personally don’t like it. In terms of psychological/hormonal impact, afaik all the evidence points to negative effects and it’s very obviously addictive, but being honest that’s not the real reason I dislike it in books.
I don’t think examining this question further will lead to any great revelation or change in my views on it - not that they’re extreme/strict views anyway. As I said in my other reply, it usually feels weird to read or oddly written, and often doesn’t add much by being there explicitly rather than implied.
So pretentious holy shit
What if ONE of My Main Characters just likes burning 🔥 things? 🤔