The Most Violent Player in Recent MLB History
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Really?
Holy shit i forgot the numbers he was putting up sheesh
But was it worth all the trouble he caused, like headbutting an umpire and kicking a cameraman in the nuts? Oh wait that was the other guy...
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In his Historical Baseball Abstract (2000) entry on Belle, Bill James lists 10 good things to say about him. Of course, the first and most important was that he could hit. James cracked me up with two of them: he has never been on the Jerry Springer Show, and he has never praised Hitler or Saddam Husseim.
“…or any other foreign madman.”
He had such an interesting stance....dude could rake
I recently watched Jose Canseco, same stance and swing.
I'd barely even heard of this guy, but his stance is what jumped out to me right away in the highlights shown at the beginning. He just has the timing down perfectly for hacking at the ball like a tree with the exact same hitch step every time. That hitch step! You don't see things like that these days, not like I'm some aged expert or anything, but really, I've never seen anything like it except MAYBE in mvp 2005, in which case they deliberately modeled it.
@@LoLotov Baseball mostly disowns him due to his controversial behavior and the cork bat incident.
So could I
@@LoLotov dude was a monster and another prime example of the bbwaa being babies because he was an a**hole. Love Mo Vaughn to death but he wasn't the mvp the year he won it.
Belle was always a star I enjoyed pulling the baseball card of from the pack in the 90s. He and Frank Thomas were two monsters at the plate in those days, we all wished we could hit like them. Makes me miss 90s MLB.
Don't forget the baseball cards and the early-mid 90s insertmania!
Milton Bradley would like a word
Mario Soto, Cesar Cedeno, and Al Hrabosky as well.
Carl Everett has entered the chat
Rob Dibble and John Rocker want in as well.
An interesting fact. Before Belle signed in Baltimore, the Yankees were ready to not only sign him, but let franchise legend Bernie Williams go to do so. But Baltimore swooped in and grabbed him.
Bernie ended up resigning for less than what Boston and Arizona were offering in the end.
Probably for the best
Former sportswriter here. You learn to get a thick skin in the locker room (or clubhouse), so you put up with a lot of crap (especially in baseball, for some reason). But Belle was something else. I honestly thought he had mental issues. I was doing a story about Kenny Lofton back when both were with Cleveland (Kenny had just made his first All Star team) and was gathering quotes from teammates about it. Belle had two lockers in the clubhouse (one for his clothes and the other for his towels, shower stuff, etc.), and when you tried to ask him questions, he would look right past you with that stone face and just keep doing what he was doing. He would (intentionally, I always believed) go for something in the other locker and just body you out of the way (basically walking right through you) without reacting at all, as if you weren't there. That guy had problems.
Or..sports writers in the locker rooms are usually annoying and in the way. Sounds like he just didn't wanna talk or be bothered.
@@rancidcrawfish My dad knew him growing up, and that was his theory too. Maybe not this guy in particular, but some media members were out to get him. There's plenty of sportwriters who intentionally provoke these players to get stories and that's probably what made Belle so antagonistic towards them.
It was brought up that he grew up in a town that had a deep history of racism. I'm sure that played some part. You also have to wonder what his home life was like. It seems like he tended to be a perfectionist. Top grades in school, and an outstanding Baseball career. It seems like he wanted to be the best at everything.
@@fr2ncm9 I didn't hold it against him. Like I said, I figured he had some deep psychological issues and I wasn't going to judge him on that. Guys like Will Clark, and Barry Bonds on the other hand, were pricks just because they thoroughly enjoyed being pricks. And they were pricks to everyone - teammates, clubhouse workers, the media, etc. They reveled in it.
@@Alexander_Grant Yeah, there are a few media people who like to provoke players, but they're usually the ones who don't go in the clubhouse very often. The everyday media, who are in there every day, try to keep on decent terms with the players, if only for survival's sake. The problem is when the team's biggest stars are a-holes, and you have to approach them pretty often. That's when the job sucks.
While in the Cape Cod League, Belle had taken up drinking, which changed his personality for the worse. But even when he stopped drinking, he still was a very sour person.
I'm guessing that's not all he was taking, considering the era. Wild mood swings and rage?
Sounds like he shoulda kept drinking!
I voted for him for MVP in 1995, but my vote wasn't good enough for the MLB to count it.
I saw Albert Belle on Arizona State’s Campus after he left baseball. He was a student walking to class.
Usually, when you hear the phrase "playing angry" it's talking about football, but Belle was the definition of playing angry. His 50/50 season was a miracle to watch as a young Indians fan.
Remember seeing him at a browns game at the old stadium. Just walking by himself. Dude had enormous quads
You and Baseball Doesn’t Exist have skyrocketed my baseball fandom. You guys should do a collab, some way some how.
Baltimore Orioles sports announcer Tom Marr disliked Albert Belle intensely and objected to his signing with the Orioles. Bell likely would have gone into the Hall if he had played longer because he was an awesome hitter as well as a cork bat cheater. Belle had two solid seasons with the Birds and then retired. His second season was marred with injuries but the numbers he had put up were good for the amount of games he played. Belle homered in the final at-bat of his major-league career, at Oriole Park at Camden Yards on October 1, 2000.
Should do a video on Jim Thome.
I was such a big fan of Albert Belle...I had all the "Joey Belle" baseball cards lol
I used to have one of those Joey Belle baseball cards.
“…a festering sense of injustice” 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Great video, onee of my favorite players from that era;
Lol they didn’t want to strike Belle out 😂
LOL
Most dangerous player, consider Ty Cobb would be a close race. My favorite memory was of Albert getting hit by a pitch and refusing to take first base.
Not defending him, but the father and daughter that saw him peeing in the parking lot didn't have to keep looking, and to yell at someone to stop peeing is kind of stupid.
Like dude wasn't roided out of his mind.
Full contact baseball?Would be sick
Albert Belle was a walking black force. I'm glad he played most of his career with the Tribe
they ain’t ready for me
Most violent?! Stretch
I grew up a Cardinal fan,but I had favorite players on other teams, and Belle was for a while my favorite non cardinals player.
I even bought an Indians hat 🧢 😆
The batting style was iconic.
Low hands and an arm barred front arm.
Hitting coaches today would be telling him to change his stance so he can hit .215 like everyone else 😆
Belle was the Mike Tyson of baseball. Arguably the best player of the 90s. I loved this dude.
Extrapolate that 1994 season out to a full 162 game season and.....162 G, 626 ABs, 137 R, 223 H, 53 2b, 55 HRs, 154 RBIs, and of course a .357 BA. I hope he gets into Cooperstown someday...
Image how much more power he would've had if he didn't step in the bucket on each swing.
He must've had tremendous strength to overcome his poor batting footwork.
Bro you should tell him, he'll never make it to the majors if he doesn't correct that.
How on earth no one has ever tied him to PED’s is beyond me…!!!
Albert Bell had THOSE numbers? Holy shit
Edit: It's Belle with an 'e'?! My entire life is a lie
They gotta put him in mlb 25 the show (I lost all hope for 24)
Bro I want him ichiro and king Felix in the show
Nonar Garciaparra ted Williams
massive hof snub
Finally a baseball video that isn't sponsored by bookmakers.
An understanding of the psychiatric effects of anabolic steroid use might be the better stepping stone toward understanding Belle's behavior (in the 90's).
Matt Williams vid
Matt Stairs too ❤
Good ole Joey
Well well well
Ain’t no way I just found out he goes to my school rival
press relationship is very important if you want into the Hall, I think that's what got Ozzie in so easily despite offensive numbers that were...lets just say, barely average but the press and fans loved him and so he was an easy first ballot inducty, meanwhile "bad boys" like Bell had no chance.
As an Orioles fan, it pains me to think what Belle could have done in Baltimore if he had stayed healthy. He was a beast!
He will always be Albert "don't call me joey" Belle to me. Same with Justin "don't call me jeffrey" Leonard
Back in the day I liked to call him the Dennis Rodman of Baseball!
The Mike Tyson of baseball.
That title is ridiculous
You forgot about his nickname "Mr Freeze."😅
One or two more injury-free seasons and it would be impossible to keep him out of the Hall
MLB Angry Dude tournament...
Albert "Don't call me Joey" Belle vs. Milton Bradley in one bracket...
Carlos Zambrano vs. Amir Garret in the other.
Winners face off in a cage in Vegas at Mandalay Bay.
...Jake Paul will then greet the winner and attempt to schedule a fight with him immediately following the cage match.
Edgar Martinez please I need me an Edgar Martinez video
as a fan, i respected/feared Albert Belle's bat, but i didn't want him on my team. two stories, both involving Bernie Williams
story 1: when Bernie Williams was nearing free agency, the talk was that the Yankees had leverage because if they don't sign him, they can just go out and pick up Albert Belle. Yankees fans did not like that idea. we chanted "Bernie don't go, Stay Bernie Stay" with all our hearts from the bleachers
story 2: even though i didn't care much for the guy, i think Belle was unfairly maligned for launching Fernando Viña into the East River. i couldn't tell you if it was that same year, the year before, or the year after, but Bernie Williams shoved 2B Carlos Baerga to break up the double play, Baerga tried to make the play at first, didn't, and no one blinked an eye, presumably because Bernie wasn't 210 lbs of pure angry muscle. it was the same act, but Angry Albert threw his shoulder into it
A similar play happened in an earlier inning and the coaches chewed Belle out for not breaking up the double play.
Thome and Manny could mash, but Belle scared the crap out of everyone. He made them the big, bad Indians. ⚾️💥
We all have our flaws but it's sad to see it drive them to their ruin. But shaking his dong at his family was pretty ridiculous. Dude must be miserable not inflicting his will on people.
It's a shame that the HOF voters care about grudges that they can't put people in the HOF who statistically deserve it. Makes all HOFs extremely flawed.
I was a big Red Sox fan back then, but it was an absolute travesty that Mo Vaughn won the MVP in 1995. Belle had an absolute monster year, and was better than Vaughn in every respect, and the Indians were a far better team.
What a jerk. I grew up a Baltimore Orioles fan, but it made me sick when idiot owner Peter Angelos signed him. He never deserved to wear an O's uniform.
ya
Stop talking so fast. This could be a good fall into sleep video but damn, you trying to battle Eminem
My dads friends sister dated Albert Belle and they even almost got married but they broke up because “it didn’t work out”
Would love to leave an honest and insightful comment about Albert situation but your censors/filters don't allow me to post it.
He should be in the hall and they stole two mvps from him at least
i watched this whole video waiting to hear the phrase "operation shutdown".. i'm disappointed
Joooooooeeeeeey, Jooooooeeeeeeeey, Joooooooooooeeeeeey!!!
Everything aside, reporters/media shouldn't be the ones voting for the hof. Or even awards. Talk about not putting deserved players in bc some reporter holds a grudge. Should be ex players/managers.
It's RBI!!! NOT "RBIs". Think about it. You'll get it.
Does the best baseball content creator reply?
He was a bully
Matriculate means "enroll" so you can't matriculate to somewhere.
... The Apologies Are In.... 2:54
Albert belle was a piece of shit
But. The sponsor of this video, amazing.
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It looks cool, and is a great conversation piece for whoever sees it.
Highly recommend.
Belle and Kenny Lofton are the two best HoF-eligible players not in Cooperstown.
Ummm bonds? Lmao
MLB is racist against indians
Sounds like early use of roids…like starting at 16 or 17.
They just don’t make high quality character guys like him anymore
Tim JACKIE Anderson
Didn't the Cleves fail him by not making sure he get the proper mental health care?
He should be in the Hall despite his temper. Ty Cobb was pretty rotten too but no one ever said boo about that. (Though if he really did commit domestic abuse, no sympathy from me.)
Wasn’t Ty Cobb part of the kkk or something?
@@Raine574 ty cobb wasnt a member of the kkk roger hornsby however was.
ty cobb's grandson wrote that ty did abuse his family members but eventually mellowed out by the time he could remember in his book. its a solid read that includes some rough parts though.
Yeah like Bruce Willis failed Vincent Gray: "YOU FAILED ME"!!
When Cobb is mentioned today, however, almost all that's said is "boo." So, I'm not sure that gets Belle anywhere.
Once all the writers that have been around when he was playing are old and retired he should get in. Those are insane stats douche bag or not.
I lived in Cleveland in the 90s. I don't know how often it actually happened, but it felt like any time Belle batted in the 9th there was a chance for a walk-off homer. Made for a lot of interesting games.
I couldn't have cared less whether he liked sports reporters or not, I just wanted to see him play. Of course, since he hated them and they hated him, his coverage was always bad, and he didn't get the HOF votes he deserved based on his stats.
Shows you how little integrity sportswriters have, despite spewing their ill-informed judgements of the entirety of society out their a$$es twenty-four hours a day.
@@damac5136 Belle wasn't a good person at all, though. He hated everyone, not just sports writers. Look at how he treated ex-girlfriends.
Bad attitude or not he still played a HOF career even though he retired because of injury early he still got the 10 years required even amongst the juiced players Albert was one of if not the most feared hitters of his era. He's one of several players that proves the Hall votes should be taken away from the vindictive idiot writer's & given to the people. Remember it's not the Hall of nice sweet quire boys it's the Baseball Hall of fame. and you should only get in if your numbers support the standard & his clearly did.
This guy is one of the dirtiest players in baseball, he needs to be gone.
You want him killed?!
Honestly seems like a classic case of schizophrenia onset. Happens a lot to guys in their 20s sadly.
Maybe, but all things considered jumping from "consistently angry and volatile" to schizophrenic is a bit of a reach. Especially considering it'd be out of place for us random commenters to guess at something so vital to a person's health.
That said, anger issues can be a thing on their own, and even bipolar 1 or 2 are much more reasonable to try and project, but I really think this is a guy with demons best left to himself rather than us idiots.
There’s really no proof that any racial slurs were said. Belle was a great player put him in HOF.
Way to speed up the hit on vina. Almost like you have a narrative. Be better
Don’t talk shit about bonds while showing 1991 and 2001 back to back.. never got suspended.
Sounds like he was diddled as a kid
Oh geez. It's always race... 🤦🤦
Your content is too good not to have good sound. It’s not clear most of what you’re saying. I don’t know if it’s a technical issue or you’re talking too fast.
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There is an obvious mental health issue in this case. Although there may have been some racial issues early on, the video is trying to use that for too much of an excuse for extremely bad behavior. When you are having issues with your own teammates and fans and later on, your girlfriends, etc., even into your 50's, the problem is not everyone else. Stop trying to still make excuses for people when the obvious issue was that he needed to see a mental health professional and get some real help. When you're a pro athlete, you can't chase kids around the neighborhood for egging your house on Halloween, especially when you didn't even hand out candy.
Competitiveness can cause a lot of us to get angry and throw things and be upset with people for no reason, I know, I was one of those people when playing sports and it did help me to play better a lot more than people may think. "Playing angry" is a good thing for a lot of people but this is an example of someone that had/has serious underlying issues. Hopefully, for his sake and for the people around him, he has either mellowed enough or gotten the help he needs. I watched Albert Belle's entire career and he was a great player but that alone does not make everything better.
Roid rage 😡
Roids. The end.
When you’re as bad a person as Belle, whatever racial element involved goes out the window. Dick Allen had to face all the same issues Belle did if not worse, and yet he never tried running over kids with his car.
Bell and Bonds were both black, there i said it
Did Belle take steroids too?
Well that’s rather obvious. Considering 🎉!
If we could only be this forgiving to all young black people who act out after being subjected to racism.....
What?
Oh. You’re one of those people, huh? 😐😒
Why are you trying to excuse his behavior?
15% of the population, 50% of the violent crime. Seeing him be violent isnt surprising