That woman is vile. She should have consequences for her actions. Or she'll do it to someone else. If OP can legally hold her accountable for what she did, he should.
First story: Press charges for libel because that kind of stuff never goes away, even if they publicly admit it. People will still treat you like they think it happened.
Story 2. OP needs to tell her husband, I am doubting op was truly a factory of Michael's divorce but I bet he is projecting feelings and he needs therapy
Story one. That 'Best Friend' is a horrible person, she is clearly someone who WILL blame an innocent party because oh fuck, I screwed up, he didn't kiss back! She was hoping OP kissed back, was wanting to steal her friend's boyfriends, how nasty that chick is. I hope OP take her to court for that lie. He could HAVE had his life ruined! Story two. Just y i k e s with Michael, I feel bad for his ex wife and their kid. Been in love with OP for years? Just hgsgan. Though Greg using OP as a great example of a wife, that's sweet but it probably didn't help what Michael was thinking if it was in the mind for five years but recently -if I listened correctly?- turned romantic, still creepy, hope for the best for the family though.
Story 1. Disgusting and it happened to a friend of mine... he almost lost everything because of a lie a girl told just he didn't want to hook up with her.. (he was gay and wasn't out yet) luckily another friend and I were there to witness it and back him up. Though people didn't believe us at first.
Yes, this happened to a sailor just before the covid pandemic hit. She cheated on him when he was away on a short deployment, then after getting caught had one of her toxic friends accuse him of rape. It got nasty and this guy actually spent some time in jail. It only unraveled because there was a Female detective involved who started to see all the holes in the story. This false charge was actually a blessing though. This friend was going to be charged with making a false police report IF the wife did anything but agree to an uncontested divorce and only walked away with her car and $1000. She agreed! This is why I tell men all the time. Have witnesses with anything involving females or at least record!
@@THE-michaelmyers Oh wow! How awful! Thank goodness for that female detectives I'm so sorry to the sailor for having had to go through that. It makes it tough you know because we've always been told to believe the victim no matter what 💯 (especially as being a woman myself)but ever since that incident I try to REALLY take in everything I'm seeing and not just go by what everyone else is telling me to believe
@@hugoumero9723 Men aren't scared of marriage. Men have come to the realization that marriage no longer benefits them in any meaningful way, on the contrary - more than half of marriages end in divorce (80% of divorces initiated by women) and men risk losing half (or more) of their assets and children as well.
First story, I simply cannot understand why people are so nonchalant about not getting an attorney when someone has accused you of rape and told other people and it's not true. Those kinds of false accusations are the stuff of lifelong nightmares and need to be called out and exposed.
Not only this, but she forced herself on him. Man can also been asulted. He need tp press charges against her. Let's be honest if he had not tell her, she could do a whole lot more in the future. This was not the first time that woman is a serial rapist.
I don't think they understand the gravity of the situation. They probably think "well, since it's not true, i have nothing to worry about" but in reality they fail to understand that so many men have had their lives ruined by false accusations.
Because they usually want the experience to be over and never mentioned again. They are always just factoring in short term problems and not long term ones. The damage it could make and also that the person can just keep acting like this towards others. When they pursue something legal, it lasts months or years. Story and gory details need to be brought up multiple times and it feels like it keeps hanging over their heads and they can't move on or put it off their minds
@@greyscalesx If someone tried to ruin my Name and I got them admitting that they were lying... I wouldn't care how long it take, but I going to let the world know that she is a Liar. Also if you have concrete evidence that she'd lied about that, then I assure you it wouldn't take years in court, a good lawyer will nip that case quickly.
Because lawyers are expensive. Even to just write a cease and desist letter from a good lawyer would cost at least $500. Lawyers are very expensive and very taxing. It is cheap to accuse of crimes It is expensive to defend yourself from those accusations. Now imagine if the police charged $500 everytime they respond to a call. Most crimed would go unreported, but at least noone would make false calls.
Story 1: Huh, this whole "Tell your gf and then call her friend and tell her you'll tell your gf" idea is genius. Simple and effective. Might not work, but it's still great.
@NeoXShiro Prd. When you threaten anyone into doing something by releasing information, pictures, video, ect, it can be considered black mail. Pair that with the fact that she kissed him without his consent which can be considered sexual assault. There are a lot of rapist and predatory people who use this tactic and end up in jail. Now as I said in my first comment if this was all caught on video tape that person would be looking at some serious jail time especially if the slander played into the mix. Because at that point you would have proven that she wasn't bluffing on the blackmail and actually meant ill intent by being good on her threat.
It's so genius, it felt like a lightbulb over my head!🐵 So Simple & a "why didn't I think of that" moment.🐒 Call friend (Not on speaker!) tell her you've Decided to tell GF (like it's not happened yet) then hand GF the phone so she can hear her friend laugh, threaten & admit to it!🐧 Brilliant!😎👍 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Story one, say this as a woman, guys need to start pressing charges in situations like this. Too many guys are in jail due to false rape claims. And the ones that don't, have their social and professional Ives destroyed. Also, it's because of girls like this that alot of real female rape victims are not taken seriously.
Preach. I support that. If women want to sit here and lie about rape, then they can do the time as well since they were so ready to just ruin someone else life
Story 1: Why the hell didn't it they file a police report! I would have done it the moment the messages came in and took it as far up as it would go. Edit: I fixed the mistake.
Story 2 is both wholesome and has an amazing ending after the conflict. I am so glad they all talked like adults and worked out their problems. Its an incredible ending and its great the kid will have a stable environment going through sooo much
The end is almost what I thought was happening. I was thinking BIL's observations on OP & his brother's Relationship was how he fell "in love" with OP. since she said he didn't even know anything about her. NOW he also knows how smart & forgiving she is...
Story 1 : This isn't even really about the GF anymore op this is about you and the stinkyass gf hopefully ex friend... you should sue her for every penny she has.. she is why actual victims aren't believed and go through hell to prove they were assaulted..
Story 2: This story gave me good and happy feelings. I mean OP's husband was mature and understood how he may have played a role in what happened. Not only that, but he was so understanding and they were both supportive of Michael. I feel for Michael, because first he goes through a crappy marriage and is now a single dad. All that pressure he felt being on the front lines in the hospital during the pandemic as well- the emotional and mental turmoil he must have felt is understandable. He really needs therapy and I'm glad he will get it. It's also good that he owned up to how he put OP in a tough place confessing his feelings like that . He was rational enough to take responsibility. I hope he finds love with someone who loves him as much. There was thankfully no blaming or shaming in this story, so I think that's why it felt like a feel-good story. I'd like to believe things will look up for Michael and that he and his son will be okay.
I agree with that but what scratches my head is: if bff was in love with OPs gf for so long then why didn't she make a move on her after she ruined her 1st relationship? Something else is missing here regarding the bff
It doesn't necessarily have to be romantic or sexual. Some friends get super possessive when they notice other friends getting into a serious relationship. They feel left out, abandoned. Bonus points if they can get a breakup and friend ends up spending loads of time with the liar, who gets to comfort and be "the BFF".
@@nancyjay790 i knew a guy like that He wanted his "best friend" to remain single to have him always have time for him without a girlfriend in the way Sadly it took that friend a while to see and accept the other guys true character and cut him off
It’s amazing how much of the double standards we live in while women can cry out rape and people were already jumped on their defense but not know they’re lying. That friend is awful, and I would suggest getting a lawyer and suing her. People need to take action in court for this sort of thing of defamation rather than just leaving it alone. Because this kind of thing will follow you even if you don’t have a record. And a friend wants a friendship even after nearly ruining Op’s life? Jesus Christ. I hate this delusion that people think men can’t be raped or sexually assaulted. News Flash! They can.
Yeah the irony is that most of these things feminist cry as part of rape culture don't actually fit women's experiences as much as they fit men's when was the last time a guy got cheered on in public for admitting grab some girl drunk to consent, stripped her naked, and attempted intercourse with her? Even in stand-up comedy, super edgy comedian joking about that kind of thing. Or you know Amy schumer a few years ago, relating a supposedly true story. More amendment women are raped in the us, really potentially so. Going by survey data of people describing your sexual encounters of the last 12 months, men are actually fairly close but when one adds the prison population, then it's one and a half times likely to happen to men. Female perpetrators are not taking seriously, at least with pubescent and adult men. The false allegation thing is treated not really lightly but the scornfully by the very same people who claim to care the most about rape and rape victims. They act almost as if it's a necessary byproduct of women going to the police, even at times trying to justify it as a positive thing like it's starting a necessary conversation or the men thusly accused will achieve feminist enlightenment and empathize all the more with women then they need to be in a mental hospital. What is it about so called rights or liberation movements that they always end up as bad as or nastier than whatever opposition they face? Not immediately but God damn give it some time and it always gets more and more extreme, as we're seeing. Almost like people who claim the moral high ground cannot be trusted, and movements that state that compassion is the highest good are easily LED astray because of their lack of fixed principles principles.
I remember a story about a guy who got denied a job, because they did a background check on him and found him falsely accused of assault, but he didnt file or a restraining order, so even if it was a false accusation it still counts as an actual claim, as he did nothing about it Always file for a restraining order at the very least
Tell her now and text/ record the BFF in a lie while looking for legal advice ASAP that stuff sticks with you don't sleep on this. Keep all copies of text messages too.
Story 1: Get lawyers involved and press charges for sexual assault and defamation. False accusations destroy lives for innocent people and actual victims. Also that woman deserves to face consequences.
A friend of my mom had his life ruined because hi step-daughter accused him of touching her because he didn't let her go to a dance at her high school. She realized she effed up but the police wouldn't let her rescind her accusation
Story 1- Hope OPs gf pulls her head out of her pity party and steps up to tend to OPs emotions and healing. Yeah it all sucked but he was the victim in that situation, not her. She should be pulling her shit together so he can process and go through instead of taking care of her.
YESS THANK YOU! OP is a victim of sexual assault! He needs to be comforted! GF needs to stop thinking about herself, and start emotionally being there for him!
It’s not even only about protecting themselves from her, it’s about protecting the future people who may not be as lucky to have people believe them and help reveal her lies. If he isn’t even the first guy, there’s sure to be more. And the next guy could go away for *years* before her lies are ever brought to light. She needs a paper trail.
@@demonic_myst4503 That's a fair point. I believe OP would be best to gather any evidence and keep it together. If anything happens, whether with an employer or worse, the "friend" does try to make a police report against OP, he can have what he needs to hand.
@@demonic_myst4503 In germany where i live it is defenitly crime...and a crime that DA are going for... Dont know enough about US law but it should be a crime...it false accusations. And i think it is...
Story 1: my guy needs to file an incident report with the police. It's the best way to atleast start a track record with the authorities, especially of she tries and bullshit
Story 1 I don't understand why guys don't press charges for Slander, and Defamation... I don't care that the courts are biased, but if you going to try to ruin my name you best believe I'm not going to lie down and take it. Especially once she gets caught in the lie, oh no I going to make sure EVERYONE knows you're a Liar.
Because their covil cases so for one no criminal sentencing , two you have to fund your own case since its not a criminal case the civil court was made for corporations its badly optimised for people with limited money
In that moment, he didn´t have any mental capacity to do that. He´s been drained enough with the drama, slander, and comforting his girlfriend. Plus, pressing charge including sacrificing a lot of time and money to fill in the report, hiring a lawyer, speaking to them, etc.
@@bluesapphire4262 Here's my thing, I agree with you, sure he's drained, but he can do it next week or the week after... This notion, I just want it to be over is Dumb to me. So you're willing to let someone who almost basically brake up your family, ruined your life, and taint your name... And you're fine with her just walking away without even Trying to hold her accountable for her actions.... Yeah more power to you people because I would be an Vindictive as Hell.
A bit annoying when people don’t want to press charges bec “they just want this to be over”. I know that feeling well, and it was a difficult process for me, I always wanted to throw up whenever I had to go to court, but I’d rather face that difficulty than let shit go unpunished and I wanted to cover my bases.
Like someone else said. The GF need to stop her pity party and be there for OP. He is the victim of SA not her. She needs to make sure He is okay. And they need to file a police report quickly. And talk to a lawyer as soon as possible
wOmEn NeVeR mAkE fAlSe AlLeGaTiOnS. She could have easily ruined his life and will face ZERO consequences for her actions. Don't kid yourself, we all know he won't sue and even if he did, she would serve ZERO jail time and a civil case would probably be thrown out. Meanwhile, if she went to the police...
@@a.a131 yep, this is where I refuse to believe any story about sexual harassment or racism without hard evidence. Particularly when the victim is screaming loudly. Because it appears the majority of these cases the person they are screaming about is actually the victim.
Nobody says that, and everyone who speaks about anything in absolutes is immature and narrowminded. However its not the huge phenomenon that the media is portraying it to be. False reports about sexual assaults are at 5,8% in the USA. Knowing that a supposed victim is always at a disadvantage since this is difficult to prove legally and that ppl massively dont report sexual assaults. As long as there are humans, there will be crimes and false accusations. Actually false reports of battery are more frequent, by men on men than by women on men. And yet nobody is saying all men are constantly under the possibility of being accused by other guys to have beaten them up. Happens often when too guys fight, one lost more and nobody wants to admit who threw the first punch, because they think it will make them responsible for the others medical bills and be in legal trouble. The fact stays that unpunished sexual assaults are exponential compared to false accusations. So yes errors and false accusations are possible, but acting like women are massively accusing men of rape is simply not only false but extremely damaging to the former.
@@greyscalesx You're not wrong. But you're also missing the point. False accusations are the ultimate weapon for an unscrupulous woman. Her lies can and will destroy a man's life, even if he doesn't face criminal convictions. Even if her lie is exposed, what consequences will she face? As it stands today, nothing, nadda, zippo.
Story 1: this is why believe all women is bs cause of fraudsters like the ex friend how many men are in prison for lies such as these now what if the other friends didn’t delete those posts? A apology isn’t going to fix that the damage is done I wouldn’t believe a single freaking word that comes out of that lying snakes mouth she’s shown her true colors I feel for any man she gets with
Story2: He barely interacts with OP, but claims to be in love with her. What is this nonsense, middle school? Yup I figured he was in love with the idea of OP, not the actual person. But I'm glad everyone was able to talk it out and come up with a resolution.
SECOND STORY; TELL YOUR HUSBAND! NOW, yes it will hurt him and his relationship with his brother, but if you don't and he finds out some other way it very well may destroy the trust between the two of you, plus the two of you can decide what to do about it.
She is losing her friendship, someone who she thought is her best friend and fully trustable. It's not much different than losing romantic relationship. It hurts, unless you are sociopath. So she is fully allowed to cry over the betrayal. And now that she realises friend had done this before and she believed her. And sad that someone who she thought was friend, would do something like that to her bf. She stood by OP and got her friend to confess and tell the truth.
@@duckeh1952 not only that, but the reflection that her "friend" did this to other men, including her ex- that's with being upset over too! Like, how much shit did her "friend" actually do that she wasn't aware of?
I get your concerns, but his gf has been in a manipulative relationship with her best friend who hit on her bfs serially and always made it out to be that her bf was telling the truth. All the lies and deceit. Everything hit her about her friend and all that she's done. People prob tried to convince her but she took the chance and believed her friend, so yeah She should cry.
that's assault op, your girlfriend would be happy that you got justice for being assaulted. yes she might be sad and shock at first because the friendship got ruined but after getting over that she'll be happy for it. even do it so you can future jobs and your employers won't see the false accusations op
First op sue your girlfriend's ex-friend for slander so she won't think that there isn't consequences for her actions and she does this to a third dude. This needs to be on the record! I'm glad that things worked out for the best in the last story and hope that this just becomes a funny inside joke about the stupidity of Michael in the future between the three involved.
For the first story. If op literally had not panicked and just walked out to tell everyone at the party what happened, the bff would not have any leverage.
I’d tell her The high school ex might be due an apology message or 2. I mean don’t let me randomly find out you guys are messaging 3 months later... but still might reach out.
VERY IMPORTANT: How often do false accusations happen? Well, folks break up and in MOST cases the story is "it was an abusive relationship" - meanwhile, her story does not match what Jane & Joe saw during the relationship. In this case: Notice this gal has done it before. Folks KNEW. Was anything done? What I mean is, if I call a woman the "B" word, or, God forbid, the "C" word, I can get kicked out of school or lose my job for such a thing (done during school or off campus - off work too) - but a woman making up a story that ALSO causes a "hostile environment" and .... nothing. So - GF's friend has done this before - and even GF barely even registered it. Oh, she registered it to how it effected HER, but not how it effected the VICTIM = the guy. Not even important to her. So - how often do false accusations happen? Ask ANY Matrimonial attorney (divorce attorney) - it's MOST of the time when there is a break up. Pulling the victim card is easy and there are no consequences. LASTLY: OP should tell everyone - here's "the why" - you can BET that the BFF is already doing so.
Last story: op and her husband should assume the worst and that her bil is truly in love with her, that way, they could easily nip it in the bud and prevent any issue from arising down the road. Minimizing the bils feelings is a sure time bomb that is only waiting to explode
2. Oh shit, that's exactly why I told my husband to stop telling his friends how great I am (I'm not, I'm very flawed, lots of trauma, I'm just very loving and loyal) because two of them started hitting on me - right in front of him! Obviously he cut them off. But I was like, "dude, stop building me up to lonely guys!" It's not fair to them. I know another resented him for it because - and this is funny to me - his wife is called Stephanie too and she's hard to get along with but he has very strong principles that you don't be friends with your friend's gf to avoid that mess. I'm really glad that they chose to be compassionate to Michael because I also know what it's like to be extremely lonely and sad, you can't think rationally, you're just all emotion and you're like a powder keg ready to go off. I can totally understand Michael's situation and how desperate he would be for love. I've been there. It's a dark place.
Story 1 - weaponized false rape accusations to get her way. All too common, and so many people insist that there is no such thing as a false rape allegation. OP's girlfriend believing him and GETTING THE ACCUSER TO ADMIT AND APOLOGIZE - wow, she's awesome. Good for them. Story 2 - Greg and OP have their heads on straight. Greg's reaction to being told is inspiring. Good people.
OP should post on the same platform and tag everyone who believed the friend and FBFF. Tell that "Thanks to everyone cause y'all are the reason why actual victims of assault never come out cause you supported someone who clout chased using a traumatic event for someone." Call them out and tag the friend who lied. I know it's trashy to post on social media but if they didn't wanna get called out then they shouldn't have posted.
She lied to cover up her mess attempting to destroy an innocent man and she gets away with it. Fanfuckingtastic. Even if they press charges the justice system would just tell her 'that's not nice'.
Story 1,op said she kissed me without consent, that to is sex assualt, plus false allegations of rape by the friend all add up too a lawsuit and possible criminal charges, you can not apologize out of something like this and that needs to be very clear about this, and if your gf makes light of this, then you need to break up for all the very obvious reasons, one being what if someone really didbelive her, your butt could be dead for these lies
Story 1: you should have called the cops on her dude. What if the situation was reversed, she was a guy and you were a girl? Would the kiss be okay then? She assaulted you dude.
False accusers make me sick they are the real reason so many victims don't come forward because they are scared they wont be believed the sad thing is a false accusation can destroy someones life with little to no repercussions on the false accuser.
The lying best friend should be charged with slander and sent to prison with the same charges he would have gotten if he did what she said. She is why you can’t believe accusations,
Final story: you are good people! This situation could have turned into a nucleur s*itshow!!! but high emotional intelligence prevailed! Sooooo good to see!!!
Story 1:lawyer is the only one way now Story 2: "call out on his stupidity" that's not stupidity that's a men who probably have a horrible marriage and he saw that OP is how do I say this mmm being a better wife and mother maybe he mostly fell in love with the feel of seeing hes son happy and a caring woman and that's why he fell in love with op,maybe the ex wife was not a great mom neither a great wife Story 2 update:I know it! The wife was a a-hole and because of OP husband he saw a better wife
Seriously what is with people not being impartial you need evidence to believe a thing like that but people just immediately jump to believing accusations.
I had something story 1 happen to me. I with I had have been more clever about it. I told my gf. The friend lies, gf dumps me without a second thought🙄
Story 2: the eff you to the trolls. Totally justifiable. the "who hurt you" shaming?? Yeah uncalled for. Girłš do messed up stuff like that all the time. If you weren't (which doesn't seem like you aren't) then that makes you selfish and entitled as all #@*&. You're the exception not the rule. All you've done was strengthen the trolls resolve and made yourself fodder as proof on why guys will never try dating /marriage again/at all. Your husband deserves better than you and your BIL. But what do I know? I have a better chance of finding an actual unicorn than being in a safe and secure relationship.
Story 1. This is another example of the double standards that seem to prevail nowadays. A woman makes an accusation and the mans name and details are broadcast everywhere and everything she says is taken as the gospel truth. When it turns out to be all fabrications she doesn't suffer any consequences, maybe loses a few friends when what should happen is her total ostracisation from decent society, she should be the one to carry around the stigma for life. Even suing for slander just re-hashes the whole story and some even then will believe her usually because they want to not because they look at it objectively. In this case getting the lawyer to get her to admit what she did and have it publicly recorded and posted on social media will be the best defence for OP as if it is raised in the future these pieces of evidence can be referred to.
Story1: It is ridiculous how people believe every single woman that comes up with a lie like this. It is INNOCENT until proven guilty, not the opposite. It is so easy for women to screw up guys like this, they should be automatically charged with slander or face the same punishment they are accusing the others of.
Story 1: UPDATE 2:11
Story 2: 6:40 UPDATE 12:00
Story 1 they need to get a restraining order on the friend her. Then sue her for slander. This could follow Op for literally the rest of his life.
I mean even if friend accuse him of rape op could of easily just did lie detector test and prove his innocents
That woman is vile. She should have consequences for her actions. Or she'll do it to someone else. If OP can legally hold her accountable for what she did, he should.
Also talk to gf's ex for more evidence of this being a pattern.
@NothingWild im sorry but what do you mean by admissible?
@@unknodaemon9220 it means it’s not valid evidence in court
First story: Press charges for libel because that kind of stuff never goes away, even if they publicly admit it. People will still treat you like they think it happened.
Story 2. OP needs to tell her husband, I am doubting op was truly a factory of Michael's divorce but I bet he is projecting feelings and he needs therapy
Holy crap. This girl needs to disciplined
@ASK GIRL can you please stop?!
Story one. That 'Best Friend' is a horrible person, she is clearly someone who WILL blame an innocent party because oh fuck, I screwed up, he didn't kiss back!
She was hoping OP kissed back, was wanting to steal her friend's boyfriends, how nasty that chick is. I hope OP take her to court for that lie. He could HAVE had his life ruined!
Story two. Just y i k e s with Michael, I feel bad for his ex wife and their kid. Been in love with OP for years? Just hgsgan. Though Greg using OP as a great example of a wife, that's sweet but it probably didn't help what Michael was thinking if it was in the mind for five years but recently -if I listened correctly?- turned romantic, still creepy, hope for the best for the family though.
Story 1: if anyone tried this shit on my husband they would get their ass BEAT!!!!
Story 1. Disgusting and it happened to a friend of mine... he almost lost everything because of a lie a girl told just he didn't want to hook up with her.. (he was gay and wasn't out yet) luckily another friend and I were there to witness it and back him up. Though people didn't believe us at first.
Woman like Her are the reason Why Man are scared Of marriage
Yes, this happened to a sailor just before the covid pandemic hit. She cheated on him when he was away on a short deployment, then after getting caught had one of her toxic friends accuse him of rape. It got nasty and this guy actually spent some time in jail. It only unraveled because there was a Female detective involved who started to see all the holes in the story. This false charge was actually a blessing though. This friend was going to be charged with making a false police report IF the wife did anything but agree to an uncontested divorce and only walked away with her car and $1000. She agreed! This is why I tell men all the time. Have witnesses with anything involving females or at least record!
@@THE-michaelmyers Oh wow! How awful! Thank goodness for that female detectives I'm so sorry to the sailor for having had to go through that. It makes it tough you know because we've always been told to believe the victim no matter what 💯 (especially as being a woman myself)but ever since that incident I try to REALLY take in everything I'm seeing and not just go by what everyone else is telling me to believe
@@hugoumero9723 Men aren't scared of marriage. Men have come to the realization that marriage no longer benefits them in any meaningful way, on the contrary - more than half of marriages end in divorce (80% of divorces initiated by women) and men risk losing half (or more) of their assets and children as well.
That had to be an awful way to come out.
First story, I simply cannot understand why people are so nonchalant about not getting an attorney when someone has accused you of rape and told other people and it's not true. Those kinds of false accusations are the stuff of lifelong nightmares and need to be called out and exposed.
Not only this, but she forced herself on him. Man can also been asulted. He need tp press charges against her. Let's be honest if he had not tell her, she could do a whole lot more in the future. This was not the first time that woman is a serial rapist.
I don't think they understand the gravity of the situation. They probably think "well, since it's not true, i have nothing to worry about" but in reality they fail to understand that so many men have had their lives ruined by false accusations.
Because they usually want the experience to be over and never mentioned again.
They are always just factoring in short term problems and not long term ones.
The damage it could make and also that the person can just keep acting like this towards others.
When they pursue something legal, it lasts months or years.
Story and gory details need to be brought up multiple times and it feels like it keeps hanging over their heads and they can't move on or put it off their minds
@@greyscalesx If someone tried to ruin my Name and I got them admitting that they were lying...
I wouldn't care how long it take, but I going to let the world know that she is a Liar. Also if you have concrete evidence that she'd lied about that, then I assure you it wouldn't take years in court, a good lawyer will nip that case quickly.
Because lawyers are expensive. Even to just write a cease and desist letter from a good lawyer would cost at least $500. Lawyers are very expensive and very taxing.
It is cheap to accuse of crimes
It is expensive to defend yourself from those accusations.
Now imagine if the police charged $500 everytime they respond to a call. Most crimed would go unreported, but at least noone would make false calls.
Story 1: Huh, this whole "Tell your gf and then call her friend and tell her you'll tell your gf" idea is genius. Simple and effective. Might not work, but it's still great.
That is genius
Unless it gets caught on video then you can get charged with black mail as well as assault
@NeoXShiro Prd. When you threaten anyone into doing something by releasing information, pictures, video, ect, it can be considered black mail. Pair that with the fact that she kissed him without his consent which can be considered sexual assault. There are a lot of rapist and predatory people who use this tactic and end up in jail. Now as I said in my first comment if this was all caught on video tape that person would be looking at some serious jail time especially if the slander played into the mix. Because at that point you would have proven that she wasn't bluffing on the blackmail and actually meant ill intent by being good on her threat.
@NeoXShiro Prd. oh I see that I should have been better with my words, LOL
It's so genius, it felt like a lightbulb over my head!🐵 So Simple & a "why didn't I think of that" moment.🐒 Call friend (Not on speaker!) tell her you've Decided to tell GF (like it's not happened yet) then hand GF the phone so she can hear her friend laugh, threaten & admit to it!🐧 Brilliant!😎👍
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Story one, say this as a woman, guys need to start pressing charges in situations like this. Too many guys are in jail due to false rape claims. And the ones that don't, have their social and professional Ives destroyed. Also, it's because of girls like this that alot of real female rape victims are not taken seriously.
Preach. I support that. If women want to sit here and lie about rape, then they can do the time as well since they were so ready to just ruin someone else life
Story 2, everyone acted like adults,and i love it.
This...
100%
Story 1: Why the hell didn't it they file a police report! I would have done it the moment the messages came in and took it as far up as it would go.
Edit: I fixed the mistake.
You just asked why they filed a police report 💀
@@jcfilms5349 they probably meant "why didn't they"
@@jcfilms5349 yea I fixed it
Story 2 is both wholesome and has an amazing ending after the conflict. I am so glad they all talked like adults and worked out their problems. Its an incredible ending and its great the kid will have a stable environment going through sooo much
The end is almost what I thought was happening. I was thinking BIL's observations on OP & his brother's Relationship was how he fell "in love" with OP. since she said he didn't even know anything about her. NOW he also knows how smart & forgiving she is...
Very true. I would like to add that I busted out laughing when she told the hubby and he started to laugh 😂
Story 1 : This isn't even really about the GF anymore op this is about you and the stinkyass gf hopefully ex friend... you should sue her for every penny she has.. she is why actual victims aren't believed and go through hell to prove they were assaulted..
Story 2: This story gave me good and happy feelings. I mean OP's husband was mature and understood how he may have played a role in what happened. Not only that, but he was so understanding and they were both supportive of Michael. I feel for Michael, because first he goes through a crappy marriage and is now a single dad. All that pressure he felt being on the front lines in the hospital during the pandemic as well- the emotional and mental turmoil he must have felt is understandable.
He really needs therapy and I'm glad he will get it. It's also good that he owned up to how he put OP in a tough place confessing his feelings like that . He was rational enough to take responsibility. I hope he finds love with someone who loves him as much. There was thankfully no blaming or shaming in this story, so I think that's why it felt like a feel-good story. I'd like to believe things will look up for Michael and that he and his son will be okay.
Story 1: The friends acted like they were in Pretty Little Liars or other drama.
Story 2: Everyone mostly acted like adults.
Maybe the bbf is in love with your girlfriend so she keeps doing stuff to break up her relationships
If that's the case, then she failed both miserably and pathetically.
I agree with that but what scratches my head is: if bff was in love with OPs gf for so long then why didn't she make a move on her after she ruined her 1st relationship? Something else is missing here regarding the bff
It doesn't necessarily have to be romantic or sexual. Some friends get super possessive when they notice other friends getting into a serious relationship. They feel left out, abandoned. Bonus points if they can get a breakup and friend ends up spending loads of time with the liar, who gets to comfort and be "the BFF".
@@nancyjay790 i knew a guy like that
He wanted his "best friend" to remain single to have him always have time for him without a girlfriend in the way
Sadly it took that friend a while to see and accept the other guys true character and cut him off
I think she just likes the rush of cheating and hopes to steal her “BFF”s men, like big game trophy hunters. 😒
It’s amazing how much of the double standards we live in while women can cry out rape and people were already jumped on their defense but not know they’re lying. That friend is awful, and I would suggest getting a lawyer and suing her. People need to take action in court for this sort of thing of defamation rather than just leaving it alone. Because this kind of thing will follow you even if you don’t have a record. And a friend wants a friendship even after nearly ruining Op’s life? Jesus Christ. I hate this delusion that people think men can’t be raped or sexually assaulted. News Flash! They can.
Yeah the irony is that most of these things feminist cry as part of rape culture don't actually fit women's experiences as much as they fit men's when was the last time a guy got cheered on in public for admitting grab some girl drunk to consent, stripped her naked, and attempted intercourse with her? Even in stand-up comedy, super edgy comedian joking about that kind of thing. Or you know Amy schumer a few years ago, relating a supposedly true story. More amendment women are raped in the us, really potentially so. Going by survey data of people describing your sexual encounters of the last 12 months, men are actually fairly close but when one adds the prison population, then it's one and a half times likely to happen to men. Female perpetrators are not taking seriously, at least with pubescent and adult men.
The false allegation thing is treated not really lightly but the scornfully by the very same people who claim to care the most about rape and rape victims. They act almost as if it's a necessary byproduct of women going to the police, even at times trying to justify it as a positive thing like it's starting a necessary conversation or the men thusly accused will achieve feminist enlightenment and empathize all the more with women then they need to be in a mental hospital.
What is it about so called rights or liberation movements that they always end up as bad as or nastier than whatever opposition they face? Not immediately but God damn give it some time and it always gets more and more extreme, as we're seeing.
Almost like people who claim the moral high ground cannot be trusted, and movements that state that compassion is the highest good are easily LED astray because of their lack of fixed principles principles.
I remember a story about a guy who got denied a job, because they did a background check on him and found him falsely accused of assault, but he didnt file or a restraining order, so even if it was a false accusation it still counts as an actual claim, as he did nothing about it
Always file for a restraining order at the very least
Story 1 sounds like a psycho
Tell her now and text/ record the BFF in a lie while looking for legal advice ASAP that stuff sticks with you don't sleep on this.
Keep all copies of text messages too.
Story 1: Get lawyers involved and press charges for sexual assault and defamation. False accusations destroy lives for innocent people and actual victims. Also that woman deserves to face consequences.
A friend of my mom had his life ruined because hi step-daughter accused him of touching her because he didn't let her go to a dance at her high school. She realized she effed up but the police wouldn't let her rescind her accusation
Story 1- Hope OPs gf pulls her head out of her pity party and steps up to tend to OPs emotions and healing. Yeah it all sucked but he was the victim in that situation, not her. She should be pulling her shit together so he can process and go through instead of taking care of her.
YESS THANK YOU! OP is a victim of sexual assault! He needs to be comforted! GF needs to stop thinking about herself, and start emotionally being there for him!
Agreed
It’s not even only about protecting themselves from her, it’s about protecting the future people who may not be as lucky to have people believe them and help reveal her lies. If he isn’t even the first guy, there’s sure to be more. And the next guy could go away for *years* before her lies are ever brought to light. She needs a paper trail.
Story 1:: get the police involved...that "friend" did a crime....
And has history of doing it.
Yeah and she did it twice....with the GF's ex BF
civil offence not criminal
Police wouldnt do shit
Its criminal to waste police time not defmation
Defamation is a civil issue police dont get involved
@@demonic_myst4503 That's a fair point. I believe OP would be best to gather any evidence and keep it together. If anything happens, whether with an employer or worse, the "friend" does try to make a police report against OP, he can have what he needs to hand.
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In germany where i live it is defenitly crime...and a crime that DA are going for...
Dont know enough about US law but it should be a crime...it false accusations.
And i think it is...
Story 1: my guy needs to file an incident report with the police. It's the best way to atleast start a track record with the authorities, especially of she tries and bullshit
Story 1
I don't understand why guys don't press charges for Slander, and Defamation...
I don't care that the courts are biased, but if you going to try to ruin my name you best believe I'm not going to lie down and take it. Especially once she gets caught in the lie, oh no I going to make sure EVERYONE knows you're a Liar.
Because their covil cases so for one no criminal sentencing , two you have to fund your own case since its not a criminal case
the civil court was made for corporations its badly optimised for people with limited money
Do you have any idea how expensive a lawyer is?
In that moment, he didn´t have any mental capacity to do that. He´s been drained enough with the drama, slander, and comforting his girlfriend.
Plus, pressing charge including sacrificing a lot of time and money to fill in the report, hiring a lawyer, speaking to them, etc.
@@peeonthe3rdrail414 Do you have any idea how Damaging an Accusation of That Crime is impactful to someone name and reputation?
@@bluesapphire4262 Here's my thing, I agree with you, sure he's drained, but he can do it next week or the week after...
This notion, I just want it to be over is Dumb to me. So you're willing to let someone who almost basically brake up your family, ruined your life, and taint your name... And you're fine with her just walking away without even Trying to hold her accountable for her actions.... Yeah more power to you people because I would be an Vindictive as Hell.
A bit annoying when people don’t want to press charges bec “they just want this to be over”. I know that feeling well, and it was a difficult process for me, I always wanted to throw up whenever I had to go to court, but I’d rather face that difficulty than let shit go unpunished and I wanted to cover my bases.
Story 1: Restraining order and sue her for slander I think I'm not sure
Like someone else said. The GF need to stop her pity party and be there for OP. He is the victim of SA not her. She needs to make sure He is okay.
And they need to file a police report quickly. And talk to a lawyer as soon as possible
wOmEn NeVeR mAkE fAlSe AlLeGaTiOnS. She could have easily ruined his life and will face ZERO consequences for her actions. Don't kid yourself, we all know he won't sue and even if he did, she would serve ZERO jail time and a civil case would probably be thrown out. Meanwhile, if she went to the police...
I despise women that lie about r*pe.
@@Hinatachan360 same, it olny makes it worst about the REAL VICTIMS.
@@a.a131 yep, this is where I refuse to believe any story about sexual harassment or racism without hard evidence. Particularly when the victim is screaming loudly. Because it appears the majority of these cases the person they are screaming about is actually the victim.
Nobody says that, and everyone who speaks about anything in absolutes is immature and narrowminded.
However its not the huge phenomenon that the media is portraying it to be.
False reports about sexual assaults are at 5,8% in the USA.
Knowing that a supposed victim is always at a disadvantage since this is difficult to prove legally and that ppl massively dont report sexual assaults.
As long as there are humans, there will be crimes and false accusations.
Actually false reports of battery are more frequent, by men on men than by women on men.
And yet nobody is saying all men are constantly under the possibility of being accused by other guys to have beaten them up.
Happens often when too guys fight, one lost more and nobody wants to admit who threw the first punch, because they think it will make them responsible for the others medical bills and be in legal trouble.
The fact stays that unpunished sexual assaults are exponential compared to false accusations.
So yes errors and false accusations are possible, but acting like women are massively accusing men of rape is simply not only false but extremely damaging to the former.
@@greyscalesx You're not wrong. But you're also missing the point. False accusations are the ultimate weapon for an unscrupulous woman. Her lies can and will destroy a man's life, even if he doesn't face criminal convictions. Even if her lie is exposed, what consequences will she face? As it stands today, nothing, nadda, zippo.
i’m sorry, but it’s really annoying how OP is acting like his girlfriend is the victim when HE was the one who was violated. smh 🤦♀️
Story 1: this is why believe all women is bs cause of fraudsters like the ex friend how many men are in prison for lies such as these now what if the other friends didn’t delete those posts? A apology isn’t going to fix that the damage is done I wouldn’t believe a single freaking word that comes out of that lying snakes mouth she’s shown her true colors I feel for any man she gets with
Story2: He barely interacts with OP, but claims to be in love with her. What is this nonsense, middle school? Yup I figured he was in love with the idea of OP, not the actual person. But I'm glad everyone was able to talk it out and come up with a resolution.
SECOND STORY; TELL YOUR HUSBAND! NOW, yes it will hurt him and his relationship with his brother, but if you don't and he finds out some other way it very well may destroy the trust between the two of you, plus the two of you can decide what to do about it.
The first story, I hope they keep the liar's messages and her confessions as evidences before she deleted her profile.
Heh, girlfriend is crying and making this all about her when bf was the one falsely accused and the one risking his reputation and freedom, wow.
She is losing her friendship, someone who she thought is her best friend and fully trustable. It's not much different than losing romantic relationship. It hurts, unless you are sociopath. So she is fully allowed to cry over the betrayal. And now that she realises friend had done this before and she believed her. And sad that someone who she thought was friend, would do something like that to her bf.
She stood by OP and got her friend to confess and tell the truth.
Bro shut up
They are both going through something equally as bad
@@nikofluff7122 oh buhu.... she looses a friend is equal to being sexually assaulted and then accused of rape? Give everyone a break!
@@duckeh1952 not only that, but the reflection that her "friend" did this to other men, including her ex- that's with being upset over too!
Like, how much shit did her "friend" actually do that she wasn't aware of?
I get your concerns, but his gf has been in a manipulative relationship with her best friend who hit on her bfs serially and always made it out to be that her bf was telling the truth. All the lies and deceit. Everything hit her about her friend and all that she's done. People prob tried to convince her but she took the chance and believed her friend, so yeah She should cry.
that's assault op, your girlfriend would be happy that you got justice for being assaulted. yes she might be sad and shock at first because the friendship got ruined but after getting over that she'll be happy for it. even do it so you can future jobs and your employers won't see the false accusations op
The second story is so wholesome though.
3:30 There is also another guy that has been victim of her lies. She won't get away with it!
First op sue your girlfriend's ex-friend for slander so she won't think that there isn't consequences for her actions and she does this to a third dude. This needs to be on the record! I'm glad that things worked out for the best in the last story and hope that this just becomes a funny inside joke about the stupidity of Michael in the future between the three involved.
For the first story. If op literally had not panicked and just walked out to tell everyone at the party what happened, the bff would not have any leverage.
I’d tell her The high school ex might be due an apology message or 2. I mean don’t let me randomly find out you guys are messaging 3 months later... but still might reach out.
VERY IMPORTANT: How often do false accusations happen? Well, folks break up and in MOST cases the story is "it was an abusive relationship" - meanwhile, her story does not match what Jane & Joe saw during the relationship.
In this case: Notice this gal has done it before. Folks KNEW. Was anything done? What I mean is, if I call a woman the "B" word, or, God forbid, the "C" word, I can get kicked out of school or lose my job for such a thing (done during school or off campus - off work too) - but a woman making up a story that ALSO causes a "hostile environment" and .... nothing.
So - GF's friend has done this before - and even GF barely even registered it. Oh, she registered it to how it effected HER, but not how it effected the VICTIM = the guy. Not even important to her.
So - how often do false accusations happen? Ask ANY Matrimonial attorney (divorce attorney) - it's MOST of the time when there is a break up.
Pulling the victim card is easy and there are no consequences.
LASTLY: OP should tell everyone - here's "the why" - you can BET that the BFF is already doing so.
7!
The other Reddit narration channel linking their video on a bunch of comments here is just sad 😂
I went to the first post and there were quite a few people who accused OP of cheating. One went as far to the entire post was a lie.
Because people on Reddit are sad and have nothing better to do
Last story: op and her husband should assume the worst and that her bil is truly in love with her, that way, they could easily nip it in the bud and prevent any issue from arising down the road. Minimizing the bils feelings is a sure time bomb that is only waiting to explode
BIL story he’s sounds immature, he lying about her being the reason for his divorce. He just wants a woman in his life THATS IT nothing more
2. Oh shit, that's exactly why I told my husband to stop telling his friends how great I am (I'm not, I'm very flawed, lots of trauma, I'm just very loving and loyal) because two of them started hitting on me - right in front of him! Obviously he cut them off. But I was like, "dude, stop building me up to lonely guys!" It's not fair to them. I know another resented him for it because - and this is funny to me - his wife is called Stephanie too and she's hard to get along with but he has very strong principles that you don't be friends with your friend's gf to avoid that mess. I'm really glad that they chose to be compassionate to Michael because I also know what it's like to be extremely lonely and sad, you can't think rationally, you're just all emotion and you're like a powder keg ready to go off. I can totally understand Michael's situation and how desperate he would be for love. I've been there. It's a dark place.
Story 1 - weaponized false rape accusations to get her way. All too common, and so many people insist that there is no such thing as a false rape allegation. OP's girlfriend believing him and GETTING THE ACCUSER TO ADMIT AND APOLOGIZE - wow, she's awesome. Good for them.
Story 2 - Greg and OP have their heads on straight. Greg's reaction to being told is inspiring. Good people.
Story 2.. you have a good Hubby.. and a marriage like mine! total trust and love, and understanding and compassion! Be proud and happy!
Document Everything. This will come back to haunt you years from now if you do not protect yourself NOW!
OP should post on the same platform and tag everyone who believed the friend and FBFF. Tell that "Thanks to everyone cause y'all are the reason why actual victims of assault never come out cause you supported someone who clout chased using a traumatic event for someone." Call them out and tag the friend who lied. I know it's trashy to post on social media but if they didn't wanna get called out then they shouldn't have posted.
She lied to cover up her mess attempting to destroy an innocent man and she gets away with it. Fanfuckingtastic. Even if they press charges the justice system would just tell her 'that's not nice'.
Story 1,op said she kissed me without consent, that to is sex assualt, plus false allegations of rape by the friend all add up too a lawsuit and possible criminal charges, you can not apologize out of something like this and that needs to be very clear about this, and if your gf makes light of this, then you need to break up for all the very obvious reasons, one being what if someone really didbelive her, your butt could be dead for these lies
Story 1: you should have called the cops on her dude. What if the situation was reversed, she was a guy and you were a girl? Would the kiss be okay then? She assaulted you dude.
1st story, your girlfriends ex best friend needs to take the lie detector test by the police, along with sue the ex bestfriend for making things up.
Now you have hell of a hubby a man like that I could go for and I am a guy and not gay. way to support wife and brother very rare these days.
Stop blindly trusting people's stories unless there is clear evidence something happened someone saying it happened isn't enough
I would have told my girlfriend immediately. Her BFF is not her friend and has you now as an enemy.
False accusers make me sick they are the real reason so many victims don't come forward because they are scared they wont be believed the sad thing is a false accusation can destroy someones life with little to no repercussions on the false accuser.
This girl was never op friend in the first place because would never try anything
She did the right thing by telling her husband and letting him handle his brother. Glad it worked out for them.
And people wonder why folks disappear only to be found by a foul smell in an attic.
You need to handle this sue her and the other friends that did it to you too.
Don't let them get away with it!!!!!!
OP should sue her. Imagine if he decides to run for political office in the future.
The lying best friend should be charged with slander and sent to prison with the same charges he would have gotten if he did what she said. She is why you can’t believe accusations,
Love your posts and look forward to every day to listening
first story, when the girlfriend got her ex-friend to confess she should have recorded it
You tried. Isolating her and she still hung out there told no one...nope make oral sense
story one should have gotten lawyer immediately
The second OP's husband is a doormat.
I hate lies. Lies can ruin peoples lifes
I d be suing the fck out of the so card friend
Story 2: I love you….no you don’t..
Don't curse GOD name 🙏
Is this voice human or robot?
Final story: you are good people! This situation could have turned into a nucleur s*itshow!!! but high emotional intelligence prevailed! Sooooo good to see!!!
Story 1:lawyer is the only one way now
Story 2: "call out on his stupidity" that's not stupidity that's a men who probably have a horrible marriage and he saw that OP is how do I say this mmm being a better wife and mother maybe he mostly fell in love with the feel of seeing hes son happy and a caring woman and that's why he fell in love with op,maybe the ex wife was not a great mom neither a great wife
Story 2 update:I know it! The wife was a a-hole and because of OP husband he saw a better wife
Seriously what is with people not being impartial you need evidence to believe a thing like that but people just immediately jump to believing accusations.
I had something story 1 happen to me. I with I had have been more clever about it. I told my gf. The friend lies, gf dumps me without a second thought🙄
the friend is contributing to women being accused of lying and not being taken seriously, i feel sick
First step for me would be to go right to the police and file for false rape allegations
Tell your GF!!!
Story 2: the eff you to the trolls. Totally justifiable. the "who hurt you" shaming?? Yeah uncalled for. Girłš do messed up stuff like that all the time. If you weren't (which doesn't seem like you aren't) then that makes you selfish and entitled as all #@*&. You're the exception not the rule. All you've done was strengthen the trolls resolve and made yourself fodder as proof on why guys will never try dating /marriage again/at all. Your husband deserves better than you and your BIL. But what do I know? I have a better chance of finding an actual unicorn than being in a safe and secure relationship.
Story 1. This is another example of the double standards that seem to prevail nowadays. A woman makes an accusation and the mans name and details are broadcast everywhere and everything she says is taken as the gospel truth. When it turns out to be all fabrications she doesn't suffer any consequences, maybe loses a few friends when what should happen is her total ostracisation from decent society, she should be the one to carry around the stigma for life. Even suing for slander just re-hashes the whole story and some even then will believe her usually because they want to not because they look at it objectively. In this case getting the lawyer to get her to admit what she did and have it publicly recorded and posted on social media will be the best defence for OP as if it is raised in the future these pieces of evidence can be referred to.
Story1: It is ridiculous how people believe every single woman that comes up with a lie like this. It is INNOCENT until proven guilty, not the opposite. It is so easy for women to screw up guys like this, they should be automatically charged with slander or face the same punishment they are accusing the others of.
unless op's gf want an exuse to breakup