@@anthonybernard3689 It was a comment on a previous vid thinking I was...as folically challenged as a lot of SOT-ers so I thought "best let them know I'm not Kojak QUITE yet" ;) Though as my mother always said "no two of your hairs grow in the same direction".
Cheers from Dallas! Y’all have gotten me back into movies again with approachable conversations and I’m hooked on the monster’s den. If yall want please expand this into every genre and we will watch! Thanks for the fun content!
All 1970s films! Brilliant! As 1981 ("The Beyond") is basically still the 70s. I always see the first two years of a decade as the previous. *SUSPIRIA would've been a slightly better choice for #5 (and that film is 1977) So, I've spent all these years championing this awesome decade as THE best of all time. The 1970s, for music and films, was the most cerebral, daring, dangerous, stunning, scary, mature, adult, best acted, thought provoking and fantastic! This first list proves it. Btw, I love you Davy, and I agree with most of what you say. Those b&w classics are all wonderful and deserve this consideration nearly as much. That said, I will say, that if you were born in say, the early to mid 60s, and you were able to experience the 1970s, viscerally, as a child/young teen, you might not be reaching back so far. Good on ya re: The Exorcist though! Love Psycho as well. For the record, here were my Top 5: 1. JAWS 2. ALIEN 3. THE EXORCIST 4. TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 5. SUSPIRIA / THE SHINING (n/a, should've been) Marc ⚡
Finally seeing this now, great job guys! You are so correct Davy, Christopher Lee best Dracula easily!! Curse of Frankenstein great pick from Craig, yes Cushing character so despicable lol! Also liked Craig’s focus on Halloween 1 and Alien 1! I also greatly appreciated all of Dan’s comments Re: King Kong 1 and Dawn of the Dead, and finally on insight into the Exorcist and Texas Chainsaw 1. Tobe Hooper did MANY other great films (Lifefirce!) Great picks from Jamie too, Exorcist, Jaws, Night of Living Dead all critical movies to the genre! And yes please get to Vincent Price next year?!
Tremendous / super entertaining show. I actually had 3 in my list of the top 5.( voted in). My only surprise is no 5 - my homework this weekend ( In addition to my Chase music )lol is to watch the 8️⃣1️⃣. The Beyond. Agree with Pete: the EXORCIST to me ( even at my current age of 61) is still haunting / phenomenal movie. Imo. Hands down was my one You guys crushed this 👍💯
I really don’t care which film wins, I voted for Dracula, the idea makes for an interesting episode and chat on those nominated. Many thanks and Hoorah for The Monster’s Den.
I'd have been in favour of this if we didn't have the individuals inducted to cover the other areas. Hopefully next year we'll get a better spread. The Beyond aside these are all worthy...but they're from about 7 years of history and it seems a lot voted on their VHS days faves rather than the true "without whom..." classics.
Brilliant ep - passion being thrown around like nobody's business. I actually prefer these more "serious" episodes with the odd joke to ones with a lot of humour. Lets the film geekery flow.
Fun episode! You're right at the end, Vincent Price needs to be inducted next year. I'ld also say Dwight Frye for his roles in Dracula and four Frankenstein movies. Of course he even had a small cameo in the Invisible man!
The reply system isn't working properly so excuse for replying here. The majority of the world's population does not know that' Catholics believe suicides go straight to hell. In fact, suicide is seen as an honourable death by over a 1/3 of the world whose theological roots are in Toaism and Confucianism. Ergo, you have to explain how the priest deceives the Prince of deceivers kills himself and in doing so whilst his soul is possessed drags the demon straight back to hell with him. Otherwise, as many have pointed out, how does him killing himself affect the demon, surely they survive andjust jump into the next available vessel?
The Exorcist is not one of my all time favorites but no other movie has scared me as much as this movie. Also saw this in the theatre. I pleaded with my parents to let me go. When I came home, all freaked out, they never let me forget that I'd made such a big deal about going.
All of these films are without a doubt HOF worthy, but I absolutely agree with Jamie that The Beyond is not first ballot. But my faith was restored that The Exorcist came in at #1. Great show!!
I'd say that kids imitate The Frankenstein Monster from the Abbott and Costello movie. I have a feeling that Lugosi gave the actor playing the monster some instruction based on how Lugosi played it. Knowing the monster is somewhat blind.
Thoughtful, inspired, and a whole lot of fun! I love the Monster's Den. Thank you guys :) Davy! Have you ever considered doing commentary tracks? (Hmm, group commentaries from the whole MS gang might be something to consider..) Anyway Davy, you've got an great delivery. Excellent form and on point as always my friend.
I can still remember seeing Jaws in the theatre in '75. My 15 year old brain thought the shark looked fantastic. I may notice the imperfections now as an "adult" but the movie still works.
Great show again I will give Davy a shout-out on the Friedkin show as he mentioned, I had just got Sorcerer on Laserdisc the weekend before he passed, and all you guys did a great tribute show! Thank you
i must've missed the voting part...so here are my nominees, alphabetically: Alien The Evil Dead The Exorcist Jaws (Jamie knocked off Hellraiser with this one cuz I wasn't sure if it counted...) The Shining HM: The Return of the Living Dead...yes! Better than all of the other zombie movies cuz it is figgin' hysterical. 10x funnier than the british one (which i also love...)
I went a measly 1 out of 5 with my picks: "Nosferatu" (failure) "Frankenstein" (failure) "Night of the Living Dead" (failure) "The Exorcist" (great success!) "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (failure) I love "The Beyond," but that's a pretty shocking year one inductee! Don't think you need to break them down by categories next year. It's more fun this way.
Well, we both had 1/5 and the same victory. The Beyond wouldn't be in my first 100 picks honestly. Which isn't to criticise it, just that I'd have others first from a century of horror across the globe. Yet Chris picked it and voters chose it. The rationale for categories is that the 70s ones got a LOT more votes. With the Universals and Hammer not even close. So next year could end up with similar results and our Hall actually represents less than a decade of over a century of film. At one point before The Beyond, only 6 years was the span. So some kind of....electoral college would seem to allow for variety but we'll see.
Excellent show, my only thoughts; when the Icons were nominated, was "Where is Vincent Price?" And then you commented on that (I still recon he all-round
The Beyond over Halloween or Psycho was a surprise,and I agree Night should have gotten in before Dawn. Great show as always fellas and cool idea. I also agree that next year you should at least do a separate category for pre ‘60’s films.
Halloween was my #1...scared the living hell outta this 9 yr old in 1978...have watched it EVERY Halloween season for last 25-30 yrs. I can't turn it off if I see it on TV...get chills every time I see Michael Myers on screen. His body language even scares me to this day....I have visions of seeing someone slink out from behind a row of hedges every time I see a row of hedges! Him standing in the yard looking up at Laura also creepy AF! And that name...the Shape!
This was a lot of fun! I just happened to watch The Exorcist again two days ago. I was basically taumatized by it when I saw it when it came out in '73. I was just 17 and had to sit in the first row after waiting in line in Manhattan for a couple of hours, It totally messed me up! Over the years I've seen it a few more times, and it always scared me, probably because I was so messed up from the first viewing, and the subsequent viewings were triggering that memory and scaring me more than would be expected. The other day was the very first time i watched it where it didn't effect me that way, and I was able to admire it on a different level. i got more into the craft of the filmmaking and the acting, both of which were superb. (Still creepy as hell and scary though!!!)
Halloween is my favorite scary movie. Still creeps me out to this day, thanks to Carpenter’s brilliant directing and film score. And I really appreciate the lack of gore - definitely not needed for a movie this well done! And of course this film introduced us to the iconic ‘scream queen’ Jamie Lee Curtis ❤
Pete, love the show and was happy you decided to do this Hall of Fame. I know this was the inaugural vote and only 5 could be chosen, so I was happy with all the choices except for one, The Beyond. I had never seen it, so I decided to watch it last night. To me it was all style over substance. So much style that I actually found it nonsensical. However, there is a lot of fun gore and grusomeness to go around. I did get a kick out of the tarantula scene just for the sound alone! Not sure how this film beat out many of the classics on your list. Must have been a small lobby of voters who decided to vote and revote many times. Psycho vs The Beyond? C'mon man! Oh well, to each his own. Keep up the great work on the show!
Great show. Can't really argue with the 5 entries, although The Beyond was a big surprise to me. I will have to watch that again as it's not one of my favorites. Hopefully, get some Hammer in their next year 🤔 Special mention for Jamie's t-shirt, well cool 😎
Jamie, I grew up in Monroeville & did all my shopping at the mall. Kinda creepy, but I loved George Romero. And what a place for sports fans like me in the 70s. Went to University of Pittsburgh & and they won the NCAA national championship with Tony Dorset. Then I watched Dan Marino lead the team until I graduated in 1980. The Steelers won 3 or 4 Super Bowls in the 70s. The Pirates won the World Series in 1979. And the Penguins won the Stanley Cup many times. It was, and still is a GREAT place to live!
I'm surprised that my favorite horror movie wasn't even nominated! The Thing 1982. Ok it's a remake but it's also pretty different from the original (which is fun in its own way)! I would also have voted for Tenebre (my fav giallo). My votes went to Blood and Black Lace and Black Christmas. I'm not too fond of Jaws (overrated) although I can't deny its influence. I prefer Alligator over Jaws. 5 came in as a surprise, the others not so much. I am generally not a huge fan of these hall of fame or whatever (look at the disaster at rock n roll). Its a popularity vote and generally the most well known films or artists that deserve it more like Uriah Heep or whatever.
I literally had to explain it to the mates I went with on it's release. The most common criticism I've heard of the film is , "The endingbis lame and makes no sense ". When it's pointed out his suicide , cos of his belief, means the demon is is returned to hell, people's reaction is usually,... "Catholics really believe you go to hell if you commit suicide?". Most cultures think it's a dumb way to attempt to rid someone of a demon. As such, it's a wholly Catholic solution and only makes sense in that context. You've made my point, the film's weakness is its entirely parochial attitude towards the subject.
So was that an episode where everyone picked the horror titles they thought "should" be on the MFHOF or their favorites? because honestly only Chris' list didn;t sound like the "must put it on the list because it was influential" . I would have put JC's The Thing remake in my top 5 for sure.
Not favourites, no. As Jamie said.."Halls Of Fame" start with the base. The reason for it all. If it were favourites? You'd have different lists. Look at the first year of inductees for the rock n roll hall. Elvis, Jerry Lee, Chuck Berry etc. The "without whom...". - that was the aim but no-one was restricted in choice.
I wasn't having The Omen on a shortlist when I'd picked The Exorcist and was trying to represent more than just mainstream 1970s American film. What would your 5 be? And how many of the nominees are unacceptable enough that they should be removed for The Omen?
@@DavysFlicks As for the Omen. I didn't necessarily think it had to be in the first 5 grouping elected to the Hall this year, although it easily could have been.. but it wasn't even mentioned on anyone's top 5 list or in conversation. But I would put The Omen ahead of The Beyond. My top five would be in no order with several honourable mentions close behind these five choices...Jaws, The Exorcist, The Thing (82'), The Omen and Invasion of the Body Snatchers (78).
@@soylentgreendip I agree The Beyond is not HOF worthy. If we picked 100? It wouldn't make mine. Not even my fave Fulci. But Chris picked it and the viewers voted on it. We didn't open the conversation up to other films - we'll get there. So it's no sleight to The Omen which I talked about at length not too long ago when David Warner passed and because of Patrick Troughton's presence. You got 2/5 in which is more than I did! ;) Cheers!
Whilst i recognise its inportance. Sorry but The Exorcist just doesnt do it for me. I find it boring and just not scary. But possession and demons etc doesnt scare me. Weird because I think E 3 is much better and scary. I prefer The Omen. I would have nominated 1. The Thing 2.. Alien 3. Jaws 4. The Shining. 5. The Omen
I'm sorry but I never heard of the beyond so I immediately went and watched it and it's not a good movie it looks like a movie from the early 60s not the newest one on the list I'm with Jamie on this only I think I want my 2 hours back😂
I'm English Pete, we're not religious at all and many people I know didn't have a clue what the ending meant. It's not like Vampires which appear in just about every culture so there's a common ground. I have had a lifelong interest in the paranormal and sadly, The Exorcist's long term legacy is umpteen shows with idiots bleating on about "demons" and wholly faking the 'evidence". You realise that, the only film to show a proper seance is "The Night of the Demon"?
@firemoon42 I really don't understand what is so confusing about the ending. I know plenty of atheists who have never questioned anything about this film.
@seaoftranquilityprog Pete think about it from this angle. If you knew absolutely nothing about Catholic theology, how would you explain the ending to someone else who has the same gap knowledge wise. How does the priest killing them self have any real effect on the "immortal demon"? It can find its way back to Regan in next to no time can't it? Ergo, I've had to explain why he commits suicide whilst the demon has possession of hus soul. Over a third of the world view suicide as an "honourable option" and protestants don't really do the whole hell thing at all outside of the barking mad evangelicals. I saw the film on its UK release when I was 15 and had to explain the ending to my mates I went with.
I really don't buy that "dozens" of people didn't get a simple enough ending. Karras takes the demon into himself and sacrifices himself to save Regan. It's not remotely complicated. The third of the world who view sacrifice as "honourable"? What part of the box office audience of 1973 were they? That it may win the battle but not the war is a theme of the film. That evil is eternal and always watching. That's not something you need to be catholic for. Just a viewer. I think you're defelecting your subjective feelings to objective ones. You are literally the first person I've EVER heard say that the end is remotely convoluted much less that they had to explain it to scores of people. We did a whole episode on it..not one person said "It was good...if you're Catholic - but the end is confusing as hell". Not. A. One.
I've literally had to explain the ending to dozens of non catholics. They're mostly of the opinion, it's just a ridiculous cop out. I enjoyed the play with a stage magician responsible for the FX as you felt part of it. The film remains unbelievably overrated for me and The Legend Of Hell House is "scarier" on every level and a far move "believable" scenario.
I've been discussing The Exorcist with many people for over 40 years...never came across anyone who didn't get the ending, regardless of religious preference.
Pazuzu wasn't a daemon, in reality ancient Sumerian parents would hang an effigy of Pazuzu over a child's crib as protection against "evil spirits ". Sorry, I find The Exorcist rather boring and, unless you understand the theology of Catholicism, the ending is meaningless. The spiderwalk was ground breaking though.
At least 3 of us were raised Catholic on the panel, I was an altar boy too. So before my militant atheism I'm very well versed in dogma but I think the film doesn't rely on it at the end. The nature of self-sacrifice and redemption are, ultimately, human ideals not theistic ones.
I have to be honest, I've always thought Jaws was a little overrated, Yes it's a good movie, but I've always thought it was a little boring in spots. Lazlo, seems to have a very simple, obvious and maybe infantile overall taste in movies. Personally I think The Beyond is far and away more interesting than Jaws. The Beyond in creepy all the way through, it's atmospheric and moody. Maybe most things worth while are "Beyond" little jamie lazlo.k
This might be a stupid question, but was the actual holiday Halloween considered creepy before the movie came out? How much did that movie contribute to the culture of the day October 31st going forward? I was born in 1982 so I don't know what it was like before 1978
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Cheers folks. Hope some faves of yours made it. If they were norminated and didn't? That's on the other viewers!
Yeh, bloody idiots! Only joking, they’re all great and we can’t all like everything to the same degree. Cheers Davy.
Keep growing out the hair Davy!looks good!
@@anthonybernard3689 It was a comment on a previous vid thinking I was...as folically challenged as a lot of SOT-ers so I thought "best let them know I'm not Kojak QUITE yet" ;) Though as my mother always said "no two of your hairs grow in the same direction".
@@trevdowson5810 Frankly Trev...it's why democracy failed and we should have benevolent dictators! ;)
All 5 I would have picked except I would have swapped The Beyond for Suspiria, but such a stacked list that any of these are more than deserving!
Cheers from Dallas! Y’all have gotten me back into movies again with approachable conversations and I’m hooked on the monster’s den. If yall want please expand this into every genre and we will watch! Thanks for the fun content!
All 1970s films! Brilliant!
As 1981 ("The Beyond") is basically still the 70s. I always see the first two years of a decade as the previous. *SUSPIRIA would've been a slightly better choice for #5 (and that film is 1977)
So, I've spent all these years championing this awesome decade as THE best of all time. The 1970s, for music and films, was the most cerebral, daring, dangerous, stunning, scary, mature, adult, best acted, thought provoking and fantastic!
This first list proves it. Btw, I love you Davy, and I agree with most of what you say. Those b&w classics are all wonderful and deserve this consideration nearly as much. That said, I will say, that if you were born in say, the early to mid 60s, and you were able to experience the 1970s, viscerally, as a child/young teen, you might not be reaching back so far.
Good on ya re: The Exorcist though! Love Psycho as well.
For the record, here were my Top 5:
1. JAWS
2. ALIEN
3. THE EXORCIST
4. TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE
5. SUSPIRIA / THE SHINING (n/a, should've been)
Marc
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Finally seeing this now, great job guys! You are so correct Davy, Christopher Lee best Dracula easily!! Curse of Frankenstein great pick from Craig, yes Cushing character so despicable lol! Also liked Craig’s focus on Halloween 1 and Alien 1! I also greatly appreciated all of Dan’s comments Re: King Kong 1 and Dawn of the Dead, and finally on insight into the Exorcist and Texas Chainsaw 1. Tobe Hooper did MANY other great films (Lifefirce!) Great picks from Jamie too, Exorcist, Jaws, Night of Living Dead all critical movies to the genre! And yes please get to Vincent Price next year?!
Tremendous / super entertaining show. I actually had 3 in my list of the top 5.( voted in). My only surprise is no 5 - my homework this weekend ( In addition to my Chase music )lol is to watch the 8️⃣1️⃣. The Beyond. Agree with Pete: the EXORCIST to me ( even at my current age of 61) is still haunting / phenomenal movie. Imo. Hands down was my one You guys crushed this 👍💯
I really don’t care which film wins, I voted for Dracula, the idea makes for an interesting episode and chat on those nominated. Many thanks and Hoorah for The Monster’s Den.
The panel should vote in two titles themselves. A silent vote to make sure some of the older films get in. Maybe call them Legacy titles.
I'd have been in favour of this if we didn't have the individuals inducted to cover the other areas. Hopefully next year we'll get a better spread. The Beyond aside these are all worthy...but they're from about 7 years of history and it seems a lot voted on their VHS days faves rather than the true "without whom..." classics.
Kevin Peter Hall did not play the xenomorph in Alien. A man named Bolaji Badejo was inside the costume.
Brilliant ep - passion being thrown around like nobody's business. I actually prefer these more "serious" episodes with the odd joke to ones with a lot of humour. Lets the film geekery flow.
Fun episode! You're right at the end, Vincent Price needs to be inducted next year. I'ld also say Dwight Frye for his roles in Dracula and four Frankenstein movies. Of course he even had a small cameo in the Invisible man!
The reply system isn't working properly so excuse for replying here. The majority of the world's population does not know that' Catholics believe suicides go straight to hell. In fact, suicide is seen as an honourable death by over a 1/3 of the world whose theological roots are in Toaism and Confucianism. Ergo, you have to explain how the priest deceives the Prince of deceivers kills himself and in doing so whilst his soul is possessed drags the demon straight back to hell with him. Otherwise, as many have pointed out, how does him killing himself affect the demon, surely they survive andjust jump into the next available vessel?
The Exorcist is not one of my all time favorites but no other movie has scared me as much as this movie. Also saw this in the theatre. I pleaded with my parents to let me go. When I came home, all freaked out, they never let me forget that I'd made such a big deal about going.
All of these films are without a doubt HOF worthy, but I absolutely agree with Jamie that The Beyond is not first ballot. But my faith was restored that The Exorcist came in at #1. Great show!!
I'd say that kids imitate The Frankenstein Monster from the Abbott and Costello movie. I have a feeling that Lugosi gave the actor playing the monster some instruction based on how Lugosi played it. Knowing the monster is somewhat blind.
Thoughtful, inspired, and a whole lot of fun! I love the Monster's Den. Thank you guys :) Davy! Have you ever considered doing commentary tracks? (Hmm, group commentaries from the whole MS gang might be something to consider..) Anyway Davy, you've got an great delivery. Excellent form and on point as always my friend.
Much obliged!
Great episode, guys!
Cheers bud!
I can still remember seeing Jaws in the theatre in '75. My 15 year old brain thought the shark looked fantastic. I may notice the imperfections now as an "adult" but the movie still works.
Been waiting for this fellas!
Thanks!🤘👹🤘
A pleasure!
Cheers Davy from The Captain 🍺
As always Captain...I salute you, sir!
@@DavysFlicks Right back at you mate 🫡
Great show again
I will give Davy a shout-out on the Friedkin show as he mentioned, I had just got Sorcerer on Laserdisc the weekend before he passed, and all you guys did a great tribute show! Thank you
i must've missed the voting part...so here are my nominees, alphabetically:
Alien
The Evil Dead
The Exorcist
Jaws (Jamie knocked off Hellraiser with this one cuz I wasn't sure if it counted...)
The Shining
HM: The Return of the Living Dead...yes! Better than all of the other zombie movies cuz it is figgin' hysterical. 10x funnier than the british one (which i also love...)
Hmmm, I guess I now see why the RnR HOF ignores the fan vote
Thanks a lot. Looking forward to next years show 🎉
I went a measly 1 out of 5 with my picks:
"Nosferatu" (failure)
"Frankenstein" (failure)
"Night of the Living Dead" (failure)
"The Exorcist" (great success!)
"The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" (failure)
I love "The Beyond," but that's a pretty shocking year one inductee!
Don't think you need to break them down by categories next year. It's more fun this way.
Well, we both had 1/5 and the same victory. The Beyond wouldn't be in my first 100 picks honestly. Which isn't to criticise it, just that I'd have others first from a century of horror across the globe. Yet Chris picked it and voters chose it.
The rationale for categories is that the 70s ones got a LOT more votes. With the Universals and Hammer not even close. So next year could end up with similar results and our Hall actually represents less than a decade of over a century of film. At one point before The Beyond, only 6 years was the span. So some kind of....electoral college would seem to allow for variety but we'll see.
Excellent show, my only thoughts; when the Icons were nominated, was "Where is Vincent Price?" And then you commented on that (I still recon he all-round
The Beyond over Halloween or Psycho was a surprise,and I agree Night should have gotten in before Dawn. Great show as always fellas and cool idea. I also agree that next year you should at least do a separate category for pre ‘60’s films.
I knew it! Every time you open these contests to the general public, they never pick anything that's older than the '70s. 🙁
Halloween was my #1...scared the living hell outta this 9 yr old in 1978...have watched it EVERY Halloween season for last 25-30 yrs. I can't turn it off if I see it on TV...get chills every time I see Michael Myers on screen. His body language even scares me to this day....I have visions of seeing someone slink out from behind a row of hedges every time I see a row of hedges! Him standing in the yard looking up at Laura also creepy AF! And that name...the Shape!
Cheers and hugs from NYC Davy.
Much appreciated! Have a FANTASTIC weekend!
Great idea, thanks for doing this! I agree with all the Icons and all of the HOF movies except I wouldn't put The Beyond on that list. Go Jamie!
This was a lot of fun! I just happened to watch The Exorcist again two days ago. I was basically taumatized by it when I saw it when it came out in '73. I was just 17 and had to sit in the first row after waiting in line in Manhattan for a couple of hours, It totally messed me up! Over the years I've seen it a few more times, and it always scared me, probably because I was so messed up from the first viewing, and the subsequent viewings were triggering that memory and scaring me more than would be expected. The other day was the very first time i watched it where it didn't effect me that way, and I was able to admire it on a different level. i got more into the craft of the filmmaking and the acting, both of which were superb. (Still creepy as hell and scary though!!!)
Halloween is my favorite scary movie. Still creeps me out to this day, thanks to Carpenter’s brilliant directing and film score. And I really appreciate the lack of gore - definitely not needed for a movie this well done! And of course this film introduced us to the iconic ‘scream queen’ Jamie Lee Curtis ❤
Great show, guys. I almost called them all if it wasn't for 'The Beyond'. I would have expected The Shining or Halloween making the cut.
Pete, love the show and was happy you decided to do this Hall of Fame. I know this was the inaugural vote and only 5 could be chosen, so I was happy with all the choices except for one, The Beyond. I had never seen it, so I decided to watch it last night. To me it was all style over substance. So much style that I actually found it nonsensical. However, there is a lot of fun gore and grusomeness to go around. I did get a kick out of the tarantula scene just for the sound alone! Not sure how this film beat out many of the classics on your list. Must have been a small lobby of voters who decided to vote and revote many times. Psycho vs The Beyond? C'mon man! Oh well, to each his own. Keep up the great work on the show!
Great show. Can't really argue with the 5 entries, although The Beyond was a big surprise to me. I will have to watch that again as it's not one of my favorites. Hopefully, get some Hammer in their next year 🤔 Special mention for Jamie's t-shirt, well cool 😎
Jamie, I grew up in Monroeville & did all my shopping at the mall. Kinda creepy, but I loved George Romero. And what a place for sports fans like me in the 70s. Went to University of Pittsburgh & and they won the NCAA national championship with Tony Dorset. Then I watched Dan Marino lead the team until I graduated in 1980. The Steelers won 3 or 4 Super Bowls in the 70s. The Pirates won the World Series in 1979. And the Penguins won the Stanley Cup many times.
It was, and still is a GREAT place to live!
You missed Twin Peaks Fire Walk with Me.😊
I'm surprised that my favorite horror movie wasn't even nominated! The Thing 1982. Ok it's a remake but it's also pretty different from the original (which is fun in its own way)! I would also have voted for Tenebre (my fav giallo). My votes went to Blood and Black Lace and Black Christmas. I'm not too fond of Jaws (overrated) although I can't deny its influence. I prefer Alligator over Jaws. 5 came in as a surprise, the others not so much. I am generally not a huge fan of these hall of fame or whatever (look at the disaster at rock n roll). Its a popularity vote and generally the most well known films or artists that deserve it more like Uriah Heep or whatever.
Fun!
Better than the rock n roll hall of fame
Jaws is the greatest movie ever made imo, its got everything besides the horror..
I literally had to explain it to the mates I went with on it's release. The most common criticism I've heard of the film is , "The endingbis lame and makes no sense ". When it's pointed out his suicide , cos of his belief, means the demon is is returned to hell, people's reaction is usually,... "Catholics really believe you go to hell if you commit suicide?". Most cultures think it's a dumb way to attempt to rid someone of a demon. As such, it's a wholly Catholic solution and only makes sense in that context. You've made my point, the film's weakness is its entirely parochial attitude towards the subject.
So was that an episode where everyone picked the horror titles they thought "should" be on the MFHOF or their favorites? because honestly only Chris' list didn;t sound like the "must put it on the list because it was influential" . I would have put JC's The Thing remake in my top 5 for sure.
Not favourites, no. As Jamie said.."Halls Of Fame" start with the base. The reason for it all. If it were favourites? You'd have different lists. Look at the first year of inductees for the rock n roll hall. Elvis, Jerry Lee, Chuck Berry etc. The "without whom...". - that was the aim but no-one was restricted in choice.
Wow no evil dead 😮
Jamie, have you ever thought about creating your own movie channel covering all genres? You would be great at it!! I would sub:)
I enjoyed the show but am gutted that Chris Alo and Rich Catino weren't there via zoom :(
Agreed
Sorry my man, I was away on a work trip.
And Rich hasn’t been on Monsters Den in well over a year….we love Rich, but he has other commitments.
Where's Vincent Price?
We talked about him as the single biggest omission. With one pick each - from the history of film - we can't have em all.
I don’t understand the concept, can some please explain it to me?
What do you need explained?
Sorry for the late response….what is the hall of fame for? Just most popular movies voted?
@@spencerhernandez3355 recognizing classic genre films.
I don't really like The Exorcist. I've finally said it. I prefer The Omen. However, The Night of the Demon is one of my favourites.
Pete, you should carry this idea to the HVS and In the Prog Seat; but instead of doing bands, I'd consider doing HOF albums.
Lon Chaney Jr. over Vincent Price? Not a chance. And nobody mentioned The Omen. Unacceptable.
There are tons of films to choose from. I’m sure The Omen will be on next years ballot.
I wasn't having The Omen on a shortlist when I'd picked The Exorcist and was trying to represent more than just mainstream 1970s American film. What would your 5 be? And how many of the nominees are unacceptable enough that they should be removed for The Omen?
@@DavysFlicks As for the Omen. I didn't necessarily think it had to be in the first 5 grouping elected to the Hall this year, although it easily could have been.. but it wasn't even mentioned on anyone's top 5 list or in conversation. But I would put The Omen ahead of The Beyond.
My top five would be in no order with several honourable mentions close behind these five choices...Jaws, The Exorcist, The Thing (82'), The Omen and Invasion of the Body Snatchers (78).
@@soylentgreendip I agree The Beyond is not HOF worthy. If we picked 100? It wouldn't make mine. Not even my fave Fulci. But Chris picked it and the viewers voted on it.
We didn't open the conversation up to other films - we'll get there. So it's no sleight to The Omen which I talked about at length not too long ago when David Warner passed and because of Patrick Troughton's presence. You got 2/5 in which is more than I did! ;) Cheers!
Whilst i recognise its inportance. Sorry but The Exorcist just doesnt do it for me. I find it boring and just not scary. But possession and demons etc doesnt scare me. Weird because I think E 3 is much better and scary. I prefer The Omen. I would have nominated
1. The Thing
2.. Alien
3. Jaws
4. The Shining.
5. The Omen
I'm sorry but I never heard of the beyond so I immediately went and watched it and it's not a good movie it looks like a movie from the early 60s not the newest one on the list
I'm with Jamie on this only I think I want my 2 hours back😂
I'm English Pete, we're not religious at all and many people I know didn't have a clue what the ending meant. It's not like Vampires which appear in just about every culture so there's a common ground. I have had a lifelong interest in the paranormal and sadly, The Exorcist's long term legacy is umpteen shows with idiots bleating on about "demons" and wholly faking the 'evidence". You realise that, the only film to show a proper seance is "The Night of the Demon"?
What did they fail to understand about the ending?
@firemoon42 I really don't understand what is so confusing about the ending. I know plenty of atheists who have never questioned anything about this film.
@seaoftranquilityprog Pete think about it from this angle. If you knew absolutely nothing about Catholic theology, how would you explain the ending to someone else who has the same gap knowledge wise. How does the priest killing them self have any real effect on the "immortal demon"? It can find its way back to Regan in next to no time can't it? Ergo, I've had to explain why he commits suicide whilst the demon has possession of hus soul. Over a third of the world view suicide as an "honourable option" and protestants don't really do the whole hell thing at all outside of the barking mad evangelicals. I saw the film on its UK release when I was 15 and had to explain the ending to my mates I went with.
I really don't buy that "dozens" of people didn't get a simple enough ending. Karras takes the demon into himself and sacrifices himself to save Regan. It's not remotely complicated. The third of the world who view sacrifice as "honourable"? What part of the box office audience of 1973 were they?
That it may win the battle but not the war is a theme of the film. That evil is eternal and always watching. That's not something you need to be catholic for. Just a viewer.
I think you're defelecting your subjective feelings to objective ones. You are literally the first person I've EVER heard say that the end is remotely convoluted much less that they had to explain it to scores of people. We did a whole episode on it..not one person said "It was good...if you're Catholic - but the end is confusing as hell". Not. A. One.
I've literally had to explain the ending to dozens of non catholics. They're mostly of the opinion, it's just a ridiculous cop out. I enjoyed the play with a stage magician responsible for the FX as you felt part of it. The film remains unbelievably overrated for me and The Legend Of Hell House is "scarier" on every level and a far move "believable" scenario.
I've been discussing The Exorcist with many people for over 40 years...never came across anyone who didn't get the ending, regardless of religious preference.
Pazuzu wasn't a daemon, in reality ancient Sumerian parents would hang an effigy of Pazuzu over a child's crib as protection against "evil spirits ". Sorry, I find The Exorcist rather boring and, unless you understand the theology of Catholicism, the ending is meaningless. The spiderwalk was ground breaking though.
At least 3 of us were raised Catholic on the panel, I was an altar boy too. So before my militant atheism I'm very well versed in dogma but I think the film doesn't rely on it at the end. The nature of self-sacrifice and redemption are, ultimately, human ideals not theistic ones.
I have to be honest, I've always thought Jaws was a little overrated, Yes it's a good movie, but I've always thought it was a little boring in spots. Lazlo, seems to have a very simple, obvious and maybe infantile overall taste in movies. Personally I think The Beyond is far and away more interesting than Jaws. The Beyond in creepy all the way through, it's atmospheric and moody. Maybe most things worth while are "Beyond" little jamie lazlo.k
Get over yourself.
Jaws is a beloved classic and scared millions of people for a reason.
One could say the same to you as you're clearly an attention seeker, Mr "Look at me" Laszlo.
Well no kidding and thank you captain obvious. I'm just saying it's such a low hanging fruit and otherwise obvious choice.
The best films in the eyes of the majority are the obvious choices for a hall of fame. By your logic, should we have inducted Leprechaun?
This might be a stupid question, but was the actual holiday Halloween considered creepy before the movie came out? How much did that movie contribute to the culture of the day October 31st going forward? I was born in 1982 so I don't know what it was like before 1978