2:24 it’s important to note that putting a sniper scope or any really large scope that goes over the magazine area will slow your reload down since you will now be reloading every bullet individually
Another huge benefit is that the KAR98K is 100% accurate after aiming down sight since it is a marksman rifle and therefore the aiming idle sway starts after a short delay. Snipers aren‘t 100% accurate because of the idle sway beeing active immediately. This is huge for quickscoping
Its not huge for quicksoping, its literally op for quickscoping. Will likely get nerfed so dont think this "saved" quickscoping or anything, not like it needed to be saved as quickscoping is one of the best playstyles in mw3
Something tells me it won't keep this benefit. I feel like if the KAR is as strong as it is now (compared to other bolt/lever action marksmans), where it rivals snipers, just like how some SMGs act like AR hybrids & vice versa, then I can see nerfs inbound. They did it to the BP50 SMG conversion kit, I'm sure they're going to keep the KAR in check with other snipers as well if they really want it to be in that playing field. Which will mean adding in instant idle sway factor to aiming.
When you add a full sniper scope like the SPX you don't reload with a stripper clip anymore, instead you put in one bullet at a time. Allowing you to reload cancel before getting the full 5 bullets.
@@bobdarrick2628 Modern firearms manufacturers have legal rights to the guns name and require that EA pay them for the usage of that name. Given that the Kar98k was created in 1934, I think the name is part of the "public domain" and can be used without paying royalties.
@nightbringar7558 thanks, but I’m confused. You’re talking about royalties and copyright. CoD used to pay for gun names and some ppl said that there was this California gun law preventing them from having real names. Is that fake? Why would CoD stop paying for real names suddenly with MWII, MWIII and probably BO6?
@@brandonsmith6962the issue is the reaction time, because many times a guy with a kar98k has enough time to react that a longbow or any other sniper wouldn't have and you end up dying (and that's because, as in this game the TTK is slower than it should be, it already benefits any one shot kill weapon, even more so if it has a quick reaction time)
Call me old school, but I think what will complete this weapon (and a few others) is a weapon vault that adds in wooden stocks/furniture for the classic look. Other weapons that can benefit from such a weapon vault include the Kastov rifles, the Bryson 800, and Lockwood 680.
Same. Before I started using it, I looked at the available camo's, trying to find a brown/wood paint. Couldn't find one. The closest solid colour I did find, was clay. Clay was too yellow. There's a solid camo available though that looks brown enough though, think it was from the Cronen Squall. Can unlock it in Zombies mode. What they also could add instead of the brown/wood coloured camo, is indeed a wooden stock. Similar to the M14 or SO-14 and the double barrel shotgun. While they aren't always useful due to low ads-speed and mobility impairment, it adds the classic look to the weapon.
TBH ppl saying this gun is NOT currently OP cuz of its "FiVe RoUnD ClIp" or its "SlOw fIrE RaTe" seem to not be able to see the forest for the trees. The sprint to fire time and ADS times (229ms(?) via true game data) can beat even a couple of the base SMGs let alone its own class or BRs, ARs, LMGs etc. It's a one shot in ANY RANGE so as long as you hit literally anywhere from "upper" torso and up... even the mfn arms and hands (within 50m b a l a n c e d?) strongest franchise aim assist both rotational and aiming, (doesn't matter what the rate of fire is when the game just guides you to the target.) NO weapon sway until AFTER your shot. which is hard to miss unless you have flipped vision or sumn and it just resets when you re-ADS. not to mention there are ways to reduce flinch so there is that as well. Most of all: it excels in any range; close, mid, long. In a game that has a higher ttk than any other IW CoD before it*, this gun in even the most mediocre hands (such as my own) is a menace and very OP. *strange how for nearly twenty years the community has complained about IW TTKs being too fast and how higher TTK CoDs and FPSs require more "precision" or "skill" cuz its about maintaining aim and not just reaction time and blah blah blah but then every lobby I play in is infested by this gun w a red dot sight lol TL;DR the gun is very damn cheap and is a borderline exploit of the very foundations of this game.
One of the biggest things that kinda burns me about the Kar is the fact that all other bolt/lever action in the marksman category have really shit one shot range compared to the kar. For example, while the Kar can get a one shot from the elbow up even over 50+ meters, the fact that the SPR has insanely less of a damage range even with the longest barrel and high grain rounds (I think it was only 17 meters, if I remember right) just makes me slide over to the "Kar is OP camp." I haven't done any in-depth testing with the other bolt/lever action marksman, but maybe this might be a good topic to research/do a vid for you Ace since you were able to do a similar comparison with the AR's and SMG's of MWII weapons.
The overall TTK in MWIII is higher than MWII, so those fast ADS MWII bolt-action rifles with less flinch and controller aim assist deserved their nerfs in MWIII imo. You still got decent one shot to the head with that fast ADS though. The Kar98K got the fixed fire rate and high flinch to compensate for the fast ADS and long damage range, and I think that it could just need to limit the damage multiplyer beyond the maximum damage range to headshot only because of the aim assist.
@@computerwsmallscreen2709 head shot only in my opinion that’s to much just use flinching rounds and try to make them miss the first shot and there a easy target
i love how little they learnt from the longbow best part they increase the hp for a longer ttk but keep adding more one shot weapons that dont care about it- and i am still salty they nerfed slugs into the ground
This is so ridiculously more powerful than the MW2 bolt action marksman rifles, it's ridiculous. The SPR and SA-B are a one tap to the upper torso (no arms) out to shotgun range. They're headshot only after that.
Exactly. I main S&D and I swear every team is just holding lanes with the bullshit. I’m so tired of getting oneshotted to the torso and Jimmy and Timmy telling me it’s a skill issue. Guns op. It’s bullshit.
For the quickscope build, you can actually ADS faster if you change out the stock for the no stock, and since slings get blocked, there are 2 Optics that actually help ADS, namely KR Minitac-40 Riser and KR V4 1X Riser, using this, you get 238ms ADS time.
The riser sight doesnt have a laser, so you can use the sight and an ads laser. Im not a big fan of the sight tho it just feels weird... id rather just use iron sights @shawn4507
The marksman rifle category of weapons in this game are a mess. All other categories are generally balanced, but marksman rifles are flat out rickety in terms of guns that can't kill anything vs. crossmap one shots
It's good for sure, but the firing delay feels so weird to me. I hate that I can see the bolt slide back, and there's still like a .5 second delay before I can shoot again. I've died so many times staring at people spamming the shoot button and nothing happens lol
Yeah I agree. It’s funny when you get into a gun fight with someone else using it and you both have that delay and are just jumping and looking like idiots. Lol.
@@sly0422It’s absolutely better than both. How is the Longbow better when it has worse handling and damage? Oh and of course it has stronger aim assist lmao
Honestly it’s getting really tiring that with every new season, overpowered weapons are released in order to incentivize people to purchase bundles and then when a few weeks go by those same guns are nerfed. It’s an old done to death formula already. Why not balance guns from the get go? Money that’s why.
the gun.. is balanced? its a new and free weapon, of course people are going to use it, the longbow is better in almost every way but its not new and kar98 has a place in many players memories from previous games. XRK is a whole lot more of a menace
@@cparks1000000 it doesnt feel special when its always instantly replaced by another broken thing. cod suffers from releasing too much content that is instantly nerfed to release more content. then you have 100 useless items in your collection
I found with the bayonet, you can get a charge like lunge when engaging with muzzle down. I do miss that old charge and do love this new weapon for this season.
@@TactShooter right, idk why ppl just dont call it what it is. I still go crazy when I go up against them so it doesnt bother me too *too* much, but it is still OP af
I'm one of those "slow but precise" players (if the in-game stats are accurate, I have a 31% headshot rate), but the KAR98 is a hitmarker machine in my hands. If I can't kill my opponent with the first shot, I'm almost certainly dead. MORS was OP, KAR is not.
unironically I love the bayonet attachment. When you're stuck in a room and you miss your shot or don't have time to reload, it has a pretty solid lunch and quick attack that can save you
the ultimate tell if a sniper is overpowered is if it's a better shotgun than the resident pump action shotgun. if it is then the pump needs a buff or the sniper needs a nerf, simple as that
The one thing that makes all quickscoping guns too powerful is how ADS and sprintout time boosting attachment have pretty much zero downsides. Marksman gloves are more than enough to counter flinch. Allowing the ADS speed to be that fast in pure insanity in terms of balence, the Tyr can't ADS that fast.
The age-old problem of bolt-action marksmans: too fast to make them actual snipers (Longbow as sniper was a genuine mistake, let's not kid ourselves here) but also too sniper-esque compared to their semi-auto brethren. Also them having AA is a whole other issue.
Funny thing is the longbow was originally supposed to be a marksman rifle especially considering it had marksman/AR level aim assist before it got nerfed.
@@shadowtitan8545 Yeah, I heard somewhere along the line that they couldn't finish the XRK Stalker on time so they delayed it to S1 and put in its stead the Longbow. Honestly though, I think they should take a good look at revamping the entire bolt-action marksman category because it's been troublesome since their introduction in MW2019.
@@CamperN00b47 marksman rifles are just anything that is meant to be used with iron sights. But at this point just make marksman all semi auto and snipers bolt action with lower AA or combine them together. Battle rifles and assault rifles as well is also an issue, and then treyarch has tactical rifles. Its genuinely so confusing and playing on mnk whenever there is a 1 shot marksman with regular AA rather than sniper AA is insanely frustrating.
@@kaeroseon Agree, the original iteration of marksman rifles introduced in Ghosts was spot-on: semi-auto fast-firing precision rifles with the choice for iron-sight. Then came MW2019 & IW had to muddy the waters even further by introducing single-shot options (bolt-action & lever-action) into the lineup to make the distinction that true snipers are specifically slow-firing; and it's been nothing but a headache since. Battle rifles should have been exactly what they are mostly known for IRL: hard-hitting automatic rifles with the defining trademark characteristic being *extreme recoil* . But since they can't make them too uncontrollable lest they lose against laserbeams, it became the 2nd AR category and it's honestly a huge shame. Tac rifles were 3arc's unorthodox counterpart to IW's marksman and it has been really weird for every iteration that it appeared, I think for BO6 they finally decided to pivot back to Marksman and finally shelved that idea for good now.
@@CamperN00b47 The difference between sniper rifles and marksmen rifles is in chambering; IW sniper rifle class includes precision, .338, and other large bore rounds like .50 cal. Marksman rifles are chambered in common service cartridges, e.g. 7.62x51, 7.62R
Hey Ace, just a heads up that the timestamps towards the end are a little off. If you want I made the timestamps for you. C: 5:09 - KAR98K Quickscope Setup 6:06 - KAR98K Balanced Stealth Setup 7:17 - KAR98K Long Range Setup 8:17 - Final Thoughts & Wrap Up
I slapped Over-pressured +P ammo on my main loadout to specifically counter this obnoxious gun in MP, it's so annoying. :/ Basically a shotgun with infinite OSK range...
The damage is insane, the accuracy is hit scan, the quick scoping capabilities are absurd and add the pay to win capabilities of the stupid death animation that you can buy from the store, this weapon becomes very hard to challenge. It's definitely overpowered, but what else is new. Activision does this every season.
Anyone remember how much the Community loved the Ballista back in BO2? It had a slower ADS speed potential, a Slower Fire and it had Worse Idle sway. In what world is a Bolt action rifle that is better than the Ballista not Overpowered. Love the Video, but it's so obvious that this gun has a significant nerf coming.
@@notthatguy7578 hell yea I want it nerf its to much for both of warzone and multiplayer lobbies. One shot to the arms is insane, for some reason everyone’s accuracy gets boosted 80% some how and hit every shot the one shot kill distance is to long on warzone
@notthatguy7578 lol you mean the older CoDs where we had stopping power so full auto guns killed in 2-3 bullets, or the older CoDs like Black Ops 3 where guns like the Man-O-War assault rifle killed in 2 bullets? You basically just instantly died in rhe old CoD games.
The M4, M16, and RPK also kept their real names. Why those three specifically dodged it when all the others had their names changed, I really don't know.
Some of it is not wanting to pay for rights, but a lot of it is probably due to California laws that prohibit "advertising firearms" and using fake names is a way around that.
Gotta love multimillion dollar corporations not shelling out some cash for licensing and using stupid names for their weapons like "lachmann" instead of just fucking hk33 or mp5
I respect you Ace but I just can't agree that this is balanced. RoF and mag size limitations keep it a bit in check but those ads speeds, mobility stats and aim assist benefits are insane. I'm already sick of seeing this in every lobby.
Not to mention lower arm OHKs in range, and only losing arms out of the pretty high max damage range. I'm very against having bolt action MRs because they're the healthiest for the game when they're unusably bad, but even putting that aside, I don't think anyone can reasonably call this gun balanced. It needs nerfs in like 3 separate areas.
@@SoupreemBH Just deleted this game. After dealing with the Jak Revenger basically being untouched all last season my patience was wearing a little thin and this Kar98 was the final straw. I'm sick of everyone being a pro sniper because this gun is easy af to use. F*** SHG I think they are by far the scummiest COD developers. I would rather no new guns than watch 1 or 2 blatantly overpowered new guns completely take over the meta every season.
@@JordTheeNord I can't blame you at all, bro. I was getting absolutely sick and tired of the JAK Revenger Kit too. Thankfully I haven't been seeing it anywhere near as much in my lobbies, however the KAR98 is running around rampant like the plague. The fact that thing can ADS/Sprint to fire as fast as it does, while having strong aim assist and very manageable flinch is just ridiculous. I'm getting Vietnam flashbacks of the MW19 KAR98 all over again.
@@TheBeretGamer Yeah no COD for me until BO6. Not sure if I'll every buy another SHG COD again. They are responsible for most of the worst CODs in history with AW, WW2, Vanguard and now MW3.
I was super excited to be getting the kar98k back in mw3. It actually brought be back into the game to play it. Then i saw it was a synthetic stock only and i quoted the godfather. I really hope they release a wood stock for it sometime in the future.
Man, i wish they would just fix the other marksmen rifles. I miss using the SPR or the SA-B. Marksmen rifles were done so dirty in this game. They could at least make the bolt action ones a one shot kill at 30m in the torso.
To me this is pretty well balanced. The slow rate of fire and flinch offset all the pros about it, anything other than a 1 shot kill would make it as useful as a banana. I like it, it’s fun to use too which is the main thing for me, stats aside. I’d welcome some more historical weapons.
Still blows my mind that the SPR and SA-B, as well as the Lockwood Mk2 have the effective range of a shotgun. Please, Sledge, buff the poor things. They need more range and better 1 hit kill potential
MWIII leans a little too much into ultra modern tactical tier one operator aesthetics. I would appreciate some older aesthetics thrown in there. I mean, like the only wood you see on a gun in this game is the wooden stock for the Uzi.
I didn't even watch the video and paused the ad to type. Yes! Yes it is. The issue isn't just "1 hit kill". It's the fact it has 1/4 of the sniper penalties. It's FAR easier to use and the average no BELOW AVERAGE dog won't care to even attempt addressing potential range factors which Marksman Rifles are supposed to think about. Mobility is fine, the reload is fast (enough) and doesn't move in ADS (before some mong points to idle sway that is auto corrected). It is the quintessential reason Warzone is horrendous. I have never EVER understood why some degenerates think playing Warzone like Multiplayer is fun when they only beat bad players then die and get 1 minute of actual PvP gameplay from a 20 minute game of looting, lobby waiting, The Gulag and load screens then a bit of running about. Well this pos weapon is a staple of everything anti fun in Warzone and a major cause. Play amazing, with strategy, beat squads in building infiltrations, loot fast af, shop efficiently, move and rotate with with skill and knowledge, scout properly just for some random dog to get a quick scope in a mid range circle WASTING all that time and effort. Snipers are a joke already but they take at least SOME effort and the fire rate allows SOME counterplay. This pos weapon doesn't. They either miss 1 bullet with no recourse or they wipe a player with 20k cash a flare, a portable trolly, a UAV and Utility Box with Solitaire gameplay. All so they can lose the actual PvP game in the smaller circles. It needs hotfixing ASAP. I genuinely think this is worse than the Renneti JAK kit bug in Resurgence.
The Kar98K got the fixed fire rate and high flinch to compensate for the fast ADS and long damage range, and I think that it could just need to limit the damage multiplyer beyond the maximum damage range to headshot only because of the aim assist.
If you think the no-stock quick scope build is overpowered, counter with hip-fire shotguns builds. If you're getting dominated by Kar98's from a far, counter with autosnipers with overpressured bullets, these will throw their aim off. Sorry, by autosnipers I meant rapid fire marksman rifles with scopes, like the KVD Enforcer, Mtz Interceptor, etc.
The only change Id make with your builds ace is to swap the underbarrel attatchment with another speed enhancing grip. The problem I have with the handstop you used is that it heavily hurts your ads walking stability making it way harder to place shots when strafing. Combine the nerf to ads walking stability and its flinch and its really hard to hit shots.
I don’t care what anyone says this gun is super op. I don’t play warzone and pretty much only play small maps. This gun is as fast as an smg and as powerful as a shotgun in close quarters while having the map range as a sniper. I have probably died 100+ times to this gun and not one time have is seen some miss a shot on a kill cam. Also has 0 flinch and has the strongest aim assist I have ever seen. I just played a lobby and the entire opposing team had it
This gun has ruined the game for me. It seems overpowered. Everyone on the enemy team uses it and it’s difficult to enjoy the game with this super slow ttk when I get merked instantly over and over again
Something to note ace is I was watching my son play with it marksman/snipes are not my thing, and it appears to me that when the Kar is equipped w a large scope it impacts the reload time when completely empty the scope doesn't allow for you to slide the whole clip in like he does when entirely empty to I think w larger scopes you get a far worse reload, something to verify perhaps
As a fan of small map mosh pit, I dislike the Kar98K and its camo challenges. Heck, I unlocked One Trick on this well before finishing Interstellar. And, I just found out that the season 4 prestige calling card challenges will require more Kar98 use at level 750.
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2:24 it’s important to note that putting a sniper scope or any really large scope that goes over the magazine area will slow your reload down since you will now be reloading every bullet individually
i was just about to comment the same thing
Better than mag reload
The advantage of this is you can get quicker shots off but it also doesnt allow you to shoot consecutive shots quickly and easily
Another huge benefit is that the KAR98K is 100% accurate after aiming down sight since it is a marksman rifle and therefore the aiming idle sway starts after a short delay. Snipers aren‘t 100% accurate because of the idle sway beeing active immediately. This is huge for quickscoping
Where is the skill level in that? Its a no try loadout.
Its not huge for quicksoping, its literally op for quickscoping. Will likely get nerfed so dont think this "saved" quickscoping or anything, not like it needed to be saved as quickscoping is one of the best playstyles in mw3
Something tells me it won't keep this benefit. I feel like if the KAR is as strong as it is now (compared to other bolt/lever action marksmans), where it rivals snipers, just like how some SMGs act like AR hybrids & vice versa, then I can see nerfs inbound. They did it to the BP50 SMG conversion kit, I'm sure they're going to keep the KAR in check with other snipers as well if they really want it to be in that playing field. Which will mean adding in instant idle sway factor to aiming.
@@thisguyshortythis is cod, don't expect skill to be involved. That's the whole point of quick scoping
Gotta love that hitmarker logic:
Get shot in the groin = carry on.
Get shot in the hand = dead
Welcome to video games.
When you add a full sniper scope like the SPX you don't reload with a stripper clip anymore, instead you put in one bullet at a time. Allowing you to reload cancel before getting the full 5 bullets.
How come the Kar98k has its real name and other guns don’t?
@@bobdarrick2628they probably got the rights for the name but not for other guns
@@bobdarrick2628 Modern firearms manufacturers have legal rights to the guns name and require that EA pay them for the usage of that name. Given that the Kar98k was created in 1934, I think the name is part of the "public domain" and can be used without paying royalties.
@nightbringar7558 thanks, but I’m confused. You’re talking about royalties and copyright. CoD used to pay for gun names and some ppl said that there was this California gun law preventing them from having real names. Is that fake? Why would CoD stop paying for real names suddenly with MWII, MWIII and probably BO6?
@AdrianGK47 why didn’t they for other guns?
MP is misery lol …. Kar98 every where …. Hopeful it calms down once the nostalgia wears off.
Hard to calm down when yoh still have longbow,xpr and moar running rampant.
@@aygaion2295 yep it’s all the same to me they did the same one shot your outta there
From MW 2019 or CoD WW2?
@@brandonsmith6962the issue is the reaction time, because many times a guy with a kar98k has enough time to react that a longbow or any other sniper wouldn't have and you end up dying (and that's because, as in this game the TTK is slower than it should be, it already benefits any one shot kill weapon, even more so if it has a quick reaction time)
@@gamerbg294I agree
We have 5 shot weapon with 250ms ads and one shot weapon with 250ms ads in the same game 😅
Call me old school, but I think what will complete this weapon (and a few others) is a weapon vault that adds in wooden stocks/furniture for the classic look. Other weapons that can benefit from such a weapon vault include the Kastov rifles, the Bryson 800, and Lockwood 680.
Same. Before I started using it, I looked at the available camo's, trying to find a brown/wood paint. Couldn't find one. The closest solid colour I did find, was clay. Clay was too yellow. There's a solid camo available though that looks brown enough though, think it was from the Cronen Squall. Can unlock it in Zombies mode.
What they also could add instead of the brown/wood coloured camo, is indeed a wooden stock. Similar to the M14 or SO-14 and the double barrel shotgun. While they aren't always useful due to low ads-speed and mobility impairment, it adds the classic look to the weapon.
TBH ppl saying this gun is NOT currently OP cuz of its "FiVe RoUnD ClIp" or its "SlOw fIrE RaTe" seem to not be able to see the forest for the trees. The sprint to fire time and ADS times (229ms(?) via true game data) can beat even a couple of the base SMGs let alone its own class or BRs, ARs, LMGs etc. It's a one shot in ANY RANGE so as long as you hit literally anywhere from "upper" torso and up... even the mfn arms and hands (within 50m b a l a n c e d?) strongest franchise aim assist both rotational and aiming, (doesn't matter what the rate of fire is when the game just guides you to the target.) NO weapon sway until AFTER your shot. which is hard to miss unless you have flipped vision or sumn and it just resets when you re-ADS. not to mention there are ways to reduce flinch so there is that as well. Most of all: it excels in any range; close, mid, long.
In a game that has a higher ttk than any other IW CoD before it*, this gun in even the most mediocre hands (such as my own) is a menace and very OP.
*strange how for nearly twenty years the community has complained about IW TTKs being too fast and how higher TTK CoDs and FPSs require more "precision" or "skill" cuz its about maintaining aim and not just reaction time and blah blah blah but then every lobby I play in is infested by this gun w a red dot sight lol
TL;DR the gun is very damn cheap and is a borderline exploit of the very foundations of this game.
One of the biggest things that kinda burns me about the Kar is the fact that all other bolt/lever action in the marksman category have really shit one shot range compared to the kar. For example, while the Kar can get a one shot from the elbow up even over 50+ meters, the fact that the SPR has insanely less of a damage range even with the longest barrel and high grain rounds (I think it was only 17 meters, if I remember right) just makes me slide over to the "Kar is OP camp."
I haven't done any in-depth testing with the other bolt/lever action marksman, but maybe this might be a good topic to research/do a vid for you Ace since you were able to do a similar comparison with the AR's and SMG's of MWII weapons.
The kar98 should be a sniper. It's only a marksman because that's what it was before.
They never updated the spr dmg from mw2 none of
Them one shot except the kar98k
The overall TTK in MWIII is higher than MWII, so those fast ADS MWII bolt-action rifles with less flinch and controller aim assist deserved their nerfs in MWIII imo. You still got decent one shot to the head with that fast ADS though.
The Kar98K got the fixed fire rate and high flinch to compensate for the fast ADS and long damage range, and I think that it could just need to limit the damage multiplyer beyond the maximum damage range to headshot only because of the aim assist.
last good gun that had one shot range is the sb50 from mwll. it was fun using that gun.
@@computerwsmallscreen2709 head shot only in my opinion that’s to much just use flinching rounds and try to make them miss the first shot and there a easy target
i love how little they learnt from the longbow
best part they increase the hp for a longer ttk but keep adding more one shot weapons that dont care about it-
and i am still salty they nerfed slugs into the ground
Kar98 is literally the best shotgun in the game
The sz holotherm from MW2 is severely underrated, it zooms and has thermal without any downsides. For dmr's and snipers it is unrivaled in MP
This is so ridiculously more powerful than the MW2 bolt action marksman rifles, it's ridiculous. The SPR and SA-B are a one tap to the upper torso (no arms) out to shotgun range. They're headshot only after that.
Exactly. I main S&D and I swear every team is just holding lanes with the bullshit. I’m so tired of getting oneshotted to the torso and Jimmy and Timmy telling me it’s a skill issue. Guns op. It’s bullshit.
@@sigspearthumb7993yeah it's made for aim assist morons at least make one shot headshot like the spr and sa-b
Because MWII guns aren’t balanced for MWIII and never will be. You’re complaining about something that’s irrelevant.
@@sigspearthumb7993, can’t call something OP when it’s balanced for the game that it was designed for.
@@CornFed_3 but they should be. They're in the game, and sledgehammer has balanced some of the MWII guns in patches already.
Of course it is. Marksmen/snipers have *been* OP for years. It’s just as Thunder says *best shotguns in the game* and coined them *the can’t miss*
Love Thunder
For the quickscope build, you can actually ADS faster if you change out the stock for the no stock, and since slings get blocked, there are 2 Optics that actually help ADS, namely KR Minitac-40 Riser and KR V4 1X Riser, using this, you get 238ms ADS time.
Tyvm for this info.
True, but they do have visable lasers. but Aces build had that too, just something to keep in mind.
The riser sight doesnt have a laser, so you can use the sight and an ads laser. Im not a big fan of the sight tho it just feels weird... id rather just use iron sights @shawn4507
Don't forget the trade-off with additional massive flinch going with the No Stock option.
@@btm_kiwigaming5449, flinch is irrelevant for quick scoping.
So its fine for this to have like 50m one shot to the body but the SPR isnt allowed one shot past like 15m + its way clunkier than the KAR
SPR isn’t a gun of this game and is basically irrelevant
SPR isn’t balanced for MWIII and never will be, unfortunately.
The marksman rifle category of weapons in this game are a mess. All other categories are generally balanced, but marksman rifles are flat out rickety in terms of guns that can't kill anything vs. crossmap one shots
@@CornFed_3kar is not balanced for mw3
It's good for sure, but the firing delay feels so weird to me. I hate that I can see the bolt slide back, and there's still like a .5 second delay before I can shoot again. I've died so many times staring at people spamming the shoot button and nothing happens lol
I’m sure a full auto version will be available soon.
@@grrinc true. i also hate myself so im sure ill still play if that happens.
Yeah I agree. It’s funny when you get into a gun fight with someone else using it and you both have that delay and are just jumping and looking like idiots. Lol.
@@andrebrown10101 Been there a couple times. XD It becomes a game of who gets fed up and goes for secondary/melee first. -lol-
@@andrebrown10101 Agreed. It certainly does look idiotic to see this .
marksman rifle better than sniper rifles but thats okay because its a k98 and we are blinded by nostalgia
Its not better than the long bow or mors, its just new 🤷🏾♂️
it's not better tho. mors is so much better for all around sniping and longbow is better for shorter range sniping still.
@@sly0422It’s absolutely better than both. How is the Longbow better when it has worse handling and damage? Oh and of course it has stronger aim assist lmao
kar98 is better than longbow in EVERY aspect 😅
Your letting the salt dictate your opinions. Make yourself a more difficult target to hit.
I appreciate all the gun guides man
The kar98k is the best shotgun in the game
imagine that bayonet attachment on the kastov
Yea they had that in MW2019, they should bring that back
@@CrayonsYummyYummy but that thing was added in the start of the game or later? i dont remember that
@@Redmont_ Hmm not sure as i got the game half way into its cycle, but it was there then
@@CrayonsYummyYummy its always a mystery for me i also did not played that much
Honestly it’s getting really tiring that with every new season, overpowered weapons are released in order to incentivize people to purchase bundles and then when a few weeks go by those same guns are nerfed. It’s an old done to death formula already. Why not balance guns from the get go? Money that’s why.
the gun.. is balanced? its a new and free weapon, of course people are going to use it, the longbow is better in almost every way but its not new and kar98 has a place in many players memories from previous games. XRK is a whole lot more of a menace
correct. just milking the last of the money out of the dying game before the new one is released.
It's more fun when things are broken for a few weeks. You don't have to buy anything to get the guns, and they're relatively quick to level...
Can You imagine unlocking a brand new gun and it feels mid at best????? You want that boring stuff???????
@@cparks1000000 it doesnt feel special when its always instantly replaced by another broken thing. cod suffers from releasing too much content that is instantly nerfed to release more content. then you have 100 useless items in your collection
I found with the bayonet, you can get a charge like lunge when engaging with muzzle down. I do miss that old charge and do love this new weapon for this season.
I’m by no means a quick scoper/sniper, but I just unlocked that thing and was wrecking with it. It’s too easy to use. That shit is catching a nerf
probably the most fun sniper to use.
bc its OP
@@TactShooter right, idk why ppl just dont call it what it is. I still go crazy when I go up against them so it doesnt bother me too *too* much, but it is still OP af
@@hilaireb795 When you turn a corner and IMMEDIATELY die, its OP, no matter what the gun is.
@@hilaireb795 too²
The MORS kills lightning fast, and I never get a hit marker with it.
Why do they keep doubling down on the 0 skill 1 shot kill meta?
Yes, yes it is and I'm tired of people lying that it isn't
honestly this video kinda proves it isnt.
I'm one of those "slow but precise" players (if the in-game stats are accurate, I have a 31% headshot rate), but the KAR98 is a hitmarker machine in my hands. If I can't kill my opponent with the first shot, I'm almost certainly dead. MORS was OP, KAR is not.
@@Birodalom1 in the MORS defense, how do you balance a Rail gun vs ballistic rifles
I'm not saying its OP, but I am saying that it shouldn't be able to 1 hit kill in WZ if the KATT-AMR(an ACTUAL cannon, 50. BMG) cant
unironically I love the bayonet attachment. When you're stuck in a room and you miss your shot or don't have time to reload, it has a pretty solid lunch and quick attack that can save you
the ultimate tell if a sniper is overpowered is if it's a better shotgun than the resident pump action shotgun. if it is then the pump needs a buff or the sniper needs a nerf, simple as that
Sledgehammer employee: “should we make the Kar-98 balanced?”
Whoever is in charge of weapon balancing: “Nien”
It is balanced. It’s still not any better than the Koshka was in BO4 and the ttk in that game was the slowest.
@@bobdarrick2628bro is coping so hard he went to a whole other style of CoD 💀
@@bobdarrick2628this isn't bo4
@@bobdarrick2628 Bro have you seen it in Warzone? It's the most broken sniper to ever exist....
@Cr4zyRuski I don’t play wz
The problem is the aim assist, just like the pre-nerf Longbow. After the aim assist nerf no one used it even tho the gun was the same.
The one thing that makes all quickscoping guns too powerful is how ADS and sprintout time boosting attachment have pretty much zero downsides. Marksman gloves are more than enough to counter flinch. Allowing the ADS speed to be that fast in pure insanity in terms of balence, the Tyr can't ADS that fast.
The age-old problem of bolt-action marksmans: too fast to make them actual snipers (Longbow as sniper was a genuine mistake, let's not kid ourselves here) but also too sniper-esque compared to their semi-auto brethren. Also them having AA is a whole other issue.
Funny thing is the longbow was originally supposed to be a marksman rifle especially considering it had marksman/AR level aim assist before it got nerfed.
@@shadowtitan8545 Yeah, I heard somewhere along the line that they couldn't finish the XRK Stalker on time so they delayed it to S1 and put in its stead the Longbow. Honestly though, I think they should take a good look at revamping the entire bolt-action marksman category because it's been troublesome since their introduction in MW2019.
@@CamperN00b47 marksman rifles are just anything that is meant to be used with iron sights. But at this point just make marksman all semi auto and snipers bolt action with lower AA or combine them together. Battle rifles and assault rifles as well is also an issue, and then treyarch has tactical rifles. Its genuinely so confusing and playing on mnk whenever there is a 1 shot marksman with regular AA rather than sniper AA is insanely frustrating.
@@kaeroseon Agree, the original iteration of marksman rifles introduced in Ghosts was spot-on: semi-auto fast-firing precision rifles with the choice for iron-sight. Then came MW2019 & IW had to muddy the waters even further by introducing single-shot options (bolt-action & lever-action) into the lineup to make the distinction that true snipers are specifically slow-firing; and it's been nothing but a headache since.
Battle rifles should have been exactly what they are mostly known for IRL: hard-hitting automatic rifles with the defining trademark characteristic being *extreme recoil* . But since they can't make them too uncontrollable lest they lose against laserbeams, it became the 2nd AR category and it's honestly a huge shame.
Tac rifles were 3arc's unorthodox counterpart to IW's marksman and it has been really weird for every iteration that it appeared, I think for BO6 they finally decided to pivot back to Marksman and finally shelved that idea for good now.
@@CamperN00b47 The difference between sniper rifles and marksmen rifles is in chambering; IW sniper rifle class includes precision, .338, and other large bore rounds like .50 cal.
Marksman rifles are chambered in common service cartridges, e.g. 7.62x51, 7.62R
It's 1 addition every update that makes me want to rip my hair out lol
get a Vin Diesel haircut then lmao
@@weirdeurasianboy8091 I might have to bro 😭 lmao
If I face off with annoying Kar I just go for the akimbo model and start running around
Hey Ace, just a heads up that the timestamps towards the end are a little off. If you want I made the timestamps for you. C:
5:09 - KAR98K Quickscope Setup
6:06 - KAR98K Balanced Stealth Setup
7:17 - KAR98K Long Range Setup
8:17 - Final Thoughts & Wrap Up
This is a sniper rifle dressed as marksman rifle. The one-shot damage range is stupid compared to the other marksmans.
I slapped Over-pressured +P ammo on my main loadout to specifically counter this obnoxious gun in MP, it's so annoying. :/ Basically a shotgun with infinite OSK range...
Yep everytime cod introduces a bolt action marksman rifle it's literally just a slug shotgun.
The reload changes to a single round at a time when you put a scope on it.
The vid I've been waiting for! This gun has been so fun.
Needs sniper AA or the longbow aftermarket part should get its AA reverted back.
It’s not the K98 that’s OP, it’s that there’s too many one shot weapons. Every game feels like hardcore.
Lobbies have been swamped with this ! Game Stutter one shot dead repeat
It’s op
The damage is insane, the accuracy is hit scan, the quick scoping capabilities are absurd and add the pay to win capabilities of the stupid death animation that you can buy from the store, this weapon becomes very hard to challenge. It's definitely overpowered, but what else is new. Activision does this every season.
Thanks out of all the builds I can truly say this one is the best
The bayonet singlehandedly got me the tinfoil camo on this gun.
Short answer: yes
I still think the mw19 Kar98K is more better looking than present Kar98K, but it’s still nice to see its return in its iconic form
Anyone remember how much the Community loved the Ballista back in BO2? It had a slower ADS speed potential, a Slower Fire and it had Worse Idle sway. In what world is a Bolt action rifle that is better than the Ballista not Overpowered.
Love the Video, but it's so obvious that this gun has a significant nerf coming.
Is this 1shot gun, that is very fast in ADS and is easier to use with aim assist than any sniper, is it Overpowered? Yes, the answer is yes.
Bruhh one shot to the arms and people saying it’s not op are just crazy
Don’t tell me you want this nerfed…have you never played older cods?
@@notthatguy7578 Older CoDs had much lower TTKs too
@@notthatguy7578 hell yea I want it nerf its to much for both of warzone and multiplayer lobbies. One shot to the arms is insane, for some reason everyone’s accuracy gets boosted 80% some how and hit every shot the one shot kill distance is to long on warzone
@@stephenfisher6650it's not too long the stalker just needs to be infinite one shot range like the katt, the mors should be boosted too
@notthatguy7578 lol you mean the older CoDs where we had stopping power so full auto guns killed in 2-3 bullets, or the older CoDs like Black Ops 3 where guns like the Man-O-War assault rifle killed in 2 bullets? You basically just instantly died in rhe old CoD games.
Reminds me of the spr/sa-b in mw2. Fun stuff
It is broken but i swear ive gotten hit markers well within range like in shoulder and up high but i like the bayonet
If this gun doesn’t get nerfed, this mp is cooked. Gun is literally a plague right now in lobbies
The KAR98K is, I think, the only gun in the game that's actually named after its real life counterpart.
The M4, M16, and RPK also kept their real names. Why those three specifically dodged it when all the others had their names changed, I really don't know.
@@calamelli209 perhaps those 4 names aren't "owned" like the rest of them are. They seem to be just military designations rather than licensed names.
Some of it is not wanting to pay for rights, but a lot of it is probably due to California laws that prohibit "advertising firearms" and using fake names is a way around that.
Gotta love multimillion dollar corporations not shelling out some cash for licensing and using stupid names for their weapons like "lachmann" instead of just fucking hk33 or mp5
@@calamelli209 Don't forget the RPG-7. That one is also another original.
I love the addition of the Hitscan range, thanks Ace!
Won’t be surprised if they make an aftermarket part for faster bolt action 😂
I respect you Ace but I just can't agree that this is balanced.
RoF and mag size limitations keep it a bit in check but those ads speeds, mobility stats and aim assist benefits are insane. I'm already sick of seeing this in every lobby.
Not to mention lower arm OHKs in range, and only losing arms out of the pretty high max damage range.
I'm very against having bolt action MRs because they're the healthiest for the game when they're unusably bad, but even putting that aside, I don't think anyone can reasonably call this gun balanced.
It needs nerfs in like 3 separate areas.
@@SoupreemBH Just deleted this game. After dealing with the Jak Revenger basically being untouched all last season my patience was wearing a little thin and this Kar98 was the final straw. I'm sick of everyone being a pro sniper because this gun is easy af to use.
F*** SHG I think they are by far the scummiest COD developers. I would rather no new guns than watch 1 or 2 blatantly overpowered new guns completely take over the meta every season.
@@JordTheeNord I can't blame you at all, bro. I was getting absolutely sick and tired of the JAK Revenger Kit too. Thankfully I haven't been seeing it anywhere near as much in my lobbies, however the KAR98 is running around rampant like the plague. The fact that thing can ADS/Sprint to fire as fast as it does, while having strong aim assist and very manageable flinch is just ridiculous. I'm getting Vietnam flashbacks of the MW19 KAR98 all over again.
@@TheBeretGamer Yeah no COD for me until BO6. Not sure if I'll every buy another SHG COD again.
They are responsible for most of the worst CODs in history with AW, WW2, Vanguard and now MW3.
It in itself isn't really overpowered. But, it in combination with MW's wild aim assist makes it a bit OP and easy to use.
Best shotgun in the game.
feels good using this. reminds abit like sb 50
I was super excited to be getting the kar98k back in mw3. It actually brought be back into the game to play it. Then i saw it was a synthetic stock only and i quoted the godfather. I really hope they release a wood stock for it sometime in the future.
That harbinger kit for the M4 is a beast! It fits my play style well. Hope to see a vid on this soon!
Man, i wish they would just fix the other marksmen rifles. I miss using the SPR or the SA-B. Marksmen rifles were done so dirty in this game. They could at least make the bolt action ones a one shot kill at 30m in the torso.
Omg ya, the flinch on this gun is crazy.
i wish activision would retroactively make the SPR family tree (maybe except the sa-b) be able to one shot because the SPX is the goat
They still can, the OSK area is just much smaller than in MWII
they both can one shot.. but only to around 10m..
To me this is pretty well balanced. The slow rate of fire and flinch offset all the pros about it, anything other than a 1 shot kill would make it as useful as a banana. I like it, it’s fun to use too which is the main thing for me, stats aside. I’d welcome some more historical weapons.
I have noticed if I tap them to death at range the flinch will save me. But the other positive attributes need some balancing out via nerfs.
All i ever get is hit markers with it unless its a headshot
Still blows my mind that the SPR and SA-B, as well as the Lockwood Mk2 have the effective range of a shotgun. Please, Sledge, buff the poor things. They need more range and better 1 hit kill potential
Yes it is
U speak lime someone who only plays mcw and dont know shit about sniping. Its actually horrendous
If your movement is not that fast in this game, you will get repeatedly killed over and over with the kar98..lol...it's just so powerful
I can't go back after playing Xdefiant, CoD got deleted - so glad to get back 200gb space on my hard drive
Great gun but I wish the default kit was wooden, these types of rifles are still used by militias.
MWIII leans a little too much into ultra modern tactical tier one operator aesthetics. I would appreciate some older aesthetics thrown in there.
I mean, like the only wood you see on a gun in this game is the wooden stock for the Uzi.
Don't need to see the video. The answer is yes
I didn't even watch the video and paused the ad to type. Yes! Yes it is. The issue isn't just "1 hit kill". It's the fact it has 1/4 of the sniper penalties. It's FAR easier to use and the average no BELOW AVERAGE dog won't care to even attempt addressing potential range factors which Marksman Rifles are supposed to think about.
Mobility is fine, the reload is fast (enough) and doesn't move in ADS (before some mong points to idle sway that is auto corrected).
It is the quintessential reason Warzone is horrendous. I have never EVER understood why some degenerates think playing Warzone like Multiplayer is fun when they only beat bad players then die and get 1 minute of actual PvP gameplay from a 20 minute game of looting, lobby waiting, The Gulag and load screens then a bit of running about. Well this pos weapon is a staple of everything anti fun in Warzone and a major cause.
Play amazing, with strategy, beat squads in building infiltrations, loot fast af, shop efficiently, move and rotate with with skill and knowledge, scout properly just for some random dog to get a quick scope in a mid range circle WASTING all that time and effort. Snipers are a joke already but they take at least SOME effort and the fire rate allows SOME counterplay. This pos weapon doesn't. They either miss 1 bullet with no recourse or they wipe a player with 20k cash a flare, a portable trolly, a UAV and Utility Box with Solitaire gameplay. All so they can lose the actual PvP game in the smaller circles. It needs hotfixing ASAP. I genuinely think this is worse than the Renneti JAK kit bug in Resurgence.
You mad, bro?
Cid vanguard bayonet charging was so fucking fun when equiped with the increased melee range
The Kar98K got the fixed fire rate and high flinch to compensate for the fast ADS and long damage range, and I think that it could just need to limit the damage multiplyer beyond the maximum damage range to headshot only because of the aim assist.
If you think the no-stock quick scope build is overpowered, counter with hip-fire shotguns builds.
If you're getting dominated by Kar98's from a far, counter with autosnipers with overpressured bullets, these will throw their aim off.
Sorry, by autosnipers I meant rapid fire marksman rifles with scopes, like the KVD Enforcer, Mtz Interceptor, etc.
This gun is a hit marker machine
This has become my small map sniper riffleish go to
Breaks a 3 plate in 1 shot while leaving you with barley any health? Yeah to fucking op compared to any other marksman rifle.
I was surprised you didn't mention having to single load rounds with sniper scopes
Use the bayonet/breacher attachment for one of the camo challenges (sprinting before getting two kills).
Just using it right now to level it up. Not really my weapon of choice in either marksman or sniper categories. Thanks for sharing .
The only change Id make with your builds ace is to swap the underbarrel attatchment with another speed enhancing grip. The problem I have with the handstop you used is that it heavily hurts your ads walking stability making it way harder to place shots when strafing. Combine the nerf to ads walking stability and its flinch and its really hard to hit shots.
I don’t care what anyone says this gun is super op. I don’t play warzone and pretty much only play small maps. This gun is as fast as an smg and as powerful as a shotgun in close quarters while having the map range as a sniper. I have probably died 100+ times to this gun and not one time have is seen some miss a shot on a kill cam. Also has 0 flinch and has the strongest aim assist I have ever seen. I just played a lobby and the entire opposing team had it
they should remove the arms dmg so it cant be a 1 shot. also in round modes its op.
This gun has ruined the game for me. It seems overpowered. Everyone on the enemy team uses it and it’s difficult to enjoy the game with this super slow ttk when I get merked instantly over and over again
Please make like a warzone focused vid on this gun no one has good info on damage ranges and attachments
This gun belongs in Warzone, not small MP maps. They always do stuff like this
The usage won't taper off until they nerf it. It's better than most snipers in the game and it's not even a sniper
I think the bolt delay is pretty good way for it to balance out.
CoD increasing health while carrying over the large population of 1-2 shot weapons from mw22 + all the new ones defeated the purpose of the increase
Hey ace, just a reminder but there’s two more aftermarket parts available for both the Lachman Shroud and the Renetti.
Something to note ace is I was watching my son play with it marksman/snipes are not my thing, and it appears to me that when the Kar is equipped w a large scope it impacts the reload time when completely empty the scope doesn't allow for you to slide the whole clip in like he does when entirely empty to I think w larger scopes you get a far worse reload, something to verify perhaps
If you look at the "detailed stats" in the create-a-class menu, you can see which scopes impact the reload speed.
Nah, this gun is pretty broken. It's all that people in my lobbies are using, including myself. It's too powerful right now.
give it sniper aim assist and reduce the one shot area to head/upper torso/elbow up on the arms and it will be in a good spot
I'd also make it headshot only after falloff... And probably increase the sway and flinch with No Stock, too.
As a fan of small map mosh pit, I dislike the Kar98K and its camo challenges. Heck, I unlocked One Trick on this well before finishing Interstellar. And, I just found out that the season 4 prestige calling card challenges will require more Kar98 use at level 750.