For the US, in the long term India could pose challenges in world business order, key decisions etc because of its independence approach. US wants India to be a Market place only. Not a technology producer or maker. US wants India to depend on them. Hence, India should balance both US, Russia, France and other countries in terms of defence planning.
India the emperor with no cloths. .. india eyes on "strategic Bomber" , "strategic ship" .. you name it. .. but that's about it. .. india always lives in present tense. .. you never heard that lndia has accomplished anything they always either "eyes" or "is eying" ... to be .. what??!! .. SUPA' POWER:2020??!!🤣🤣
Your neighbours'feelings are mutual. Mean and belligerent India is no good for peace as it would invite American werewolves to foment more strife and discord .
@@Noodleanrgry how many countries actually built this kind of bomber, Obsolete technology means what, you might using new technology, old technology is also good, There is no obsolete technology,
@@rakesharamaiah2737 there is no time to build a new bomber for india but in my opinion india should go for b 1 lancers cuz Russia is still recovering from the war and is quite a bit behind in the arms race these days , we should make allies with US as there is some increasing heat between US and china which will benifit us (enemies enemy is our friend). i m not telling to throw russia fully off but in times of war they are not able to give parts and components for the IAF. we should always keep a big boi behind our back at all times like we kept russia these years
The US is with India for its interest whereas Russia has been by our side the whole time when we needed them so it's better to go with Russia than the US
Compared to USA, the 🇷🇺federation has a common fear along with India, and it's China. Pakistan is not of a great deal for a combined arms operation with India. Whereas USA seeks opportunity to install new bases in India, have a certain control over political decisions, were Russia doesn't want to interfere because it's not their matter
If India want buy Tu-160 can’t low loop in skirmishes.. China easy Radar detect track Tu-160 very loud engine than B-1 lancer very low and low loop.. China hard detect track B-1 very low loop Stealth mask..
@Pauriagum What Russia are you talking about? It is the USSR who saved you in 1971 and the leader was Ukrainian Leonid Brezhnev. Why are indians cheering when russia is killing Ukrainians?
You clearly know not all details ? russia never have bin India's friend. same for Russia india is just a market with easy acces as they could not get Western weapons in past. BTW now India is dropping almost all russian made weapond and buying Western Kit (more reliable and of better quality)
At the end of the day, India will have India's interests, even if it means turning on Russia. What India needs to understand is that the U.S has no friends, only vassal states.
As lndia is currently building it's indigeneous Nuclear powered SSN & SSBN Submarines to acquire lethal underwater sea power, it's a strategic move to also acquire lethal air power by having it's own long range strategic power. India has a victorious, professional & battle-hardened army has shown in all it's previous wars & recently in Galwan whereby 60-70 invading chinese soldiers were butchered in face to face & hand to hand combat whereas lndia's casualties was due to coward ambush on them under the cover of darkness plus slipped & fall down the slopes. With the lethal weapons & assets, the lndian Army shall cement their might further.
The US wants India to be weak. However, India deserves to be strong and well represented both diplomatically and militarilly by the UNSC permanent member seat and a fully developed nuclear triad including long-range strategic aviation. No doubt Tu-160 is the right choice!
@@UncleTonyshotsauce Yeap, you've hit that man! Go with Russia to be treated as an equal! Go with America and you'll never be like them. They will always see you as their servant or worse as a slave.
Go with Russia and you'll find yourself in a very small very weak alliance with a nation that likes to try and throw what little weight it has left around. It kicks off and your axis powers 2 but much weaker than the originals
@@ricardosmythe2548 The Axis Powers 2.0 is the US with its dependencies like Germania (aka the EU) and the exEmpire (soon to be the Kingdom of England only following the Irish reunification and Scotland independence)... Imho I can't see any banks crashing anywhere else than in the US...
@@petrsovicka the west is overwhelmingly more powerful than any alliance that could be formed against it. Its not even close. NI and Scotland will remain a part if the UK. I take it your not up to date on news regarding the Scottish nationalist party 🤣
Problem with western defence equipments, especially US, is that they come with a lot of terms and conditions, then Pentagon decides where and against whom they are being used for, even when you purchase it in full price.
India is a sovereign state and they could pursue any military relationship and procure hardware from whoever they want. The US needs to understand that...
I would like Indian Navy to have these as a cruise missile carrier. A single bomber of this kind is more powerful than any frigate that Indian Navy has. Moreover it can fly beyond Mach 2.
@@shirkedance There are many aircraft carrier killer balastic missiles Also India's smart torpedoes are game changer in case of a carrier group attack
It isn't about entering enemy airspace. It's about carrying enough long range missiles to a place from where they can hit areas of great importance to the enemy. Like, the Chinese heartland on the SE coast. And of course, covering the entire Indian Ocean, so now Chinese Navy fleet would dare enter. Yes..we definitely need a squadron!
@@jimmylam9846Indians are now using a different approach to make deals with Russia instead of giving money we make defence deals. We recently export some indigenously made fighter ships to Russia for the exchange of a military weapons deal
@VoltarStarman toilet will be build with the saved money i think india has to dump american weapons and buy cheap russian as india have to build toilets
This is a good idea however India 🇮🇳 must take decision very seriously and spend a lot and wisely this could be a game changer in a war may India get the best and a lot of them
India must be aatmanirbhar in every sphere of defence . Till then what is our immediate need to win a war must be procured . Both short term and long term needs .
It is a good idea to have 3 squadrons of TU-160 - one in the East, one in the west and one in the South - all adapted for the needs of the region, including fast mobilised convoys while the squadron in the South is modified for destroying warships and air craft carriers. However, T-160 must fit into a more modern scenario wherein the squadrons are supported by long range missiles that can reach targets intended for T-160. Missiles can be modified for live relay of images to command centers with capability to reprogram these missiles to circle and strike targets from behind enemy lines ahead of T-160 take off.
It's managing resources, we need to acquire 114 Rafales(24 for Navy), additional 50 mk1a, Then AMCA, with an eye to replace, migs, jaguar mirages, so 1squardrons like mig25 will serve the purpose.
@@aelredsaizar7976nice joke 114 rafale overly priced jets 🤦🏽♂️ why not the foldable FA 18 block 3 I don't think the MK1A will have any use instead of just defence AMCA will take 200 million years for its first flight 🤷🏽♂️
Lot of Talk. Usual Desi habit. First learn how to stop shooting down your own choppers. So called surgical strike was abject failure and an embarrassment.
Definitely India must opt for strategic bombers as far as US B1 lancer is being concerned it's much costlier than Tu-160 and it has less range than Russian one as per India's requirement for two front war India can opt for Russia one but the deal must be considered or proceed under the test and trails
@@ThePedroski007 if you are so reluctant to give weapons to India just slash their cost by 30 percent otherwise just keep mum. One month before your hypersonic Missile program failed ya that's cheapness you mentioned. Multiple HIMARS destroyed in Ukraine ya that's cheapness. We will buy weapons from any country Russia Israel Korea France as per our own convenience you wouldn't have to worry. Having weapons doesn't means that you are superpower unless and until you don't know how to use it and which weapon to use it in which situation. It's better to keep your advice with you. Thanks
I'd nato goes full scale then Russia use poseidon, tsar bomba.. This is the best way to weak Russia and eliminate..Strategically nato play a game.. Zelenesky is the puppet.. Russian leader also saying this🤔🤔
For sure India should have the Stratgeic bombers so that Bharath will have an edge over the other two rivals and the superiority of the bombers gives more advantages to our tri forces.
I think India was already deal with Russia for "white swan" strategic bomber aircraft to counter Pakistan and mainly to "china" and as well as "to maintain India's dominance in the world".😎💪🇮🇳🤝🇷🇺✈️
Any proud country with a dream of being recognised as a global leader and a super power needs an arsenal that can project massive firepower even a long distance away. Proliferation and such technological restrictions laws are the last of apartheid kind of laws that are left. And the moment west understands this, India will become an unbreakable ally.
INDIA shoud go for the Russian Tu160 Bomber. India has excellent relationship with Russis and US has has recently suppplied F16s to Pakistan and has yet to prove they are there with India in thick and thin despite the talks.
@@UncleTonyshotsauce US made machines might be or might not be better than Russian made. We ain't fighting Russia or America. And China is the only country we need to be prepared for. So strategically and economically Russian made works for us. Also US has at many a times denied weapons to India and chose to make deals with our neighbouring terrorist nation. You know the country that was harbouring the guy that bombed America's twin towers.
As an American , I welcome India buying this bomber. So long, as you show it off at an airshow and I can get a selfie of me next to the white swan in Indian markings :)
Long time since India had bombers. in fact, India should start building its own Bomber prototype asap. If we can send rocket to market, we can certainly build a bomber. Only thing that holds us back is political will. There is no dearth of talent.
@@chris_anon88 Just because there is poverty doesnt mean people dont get to eat. Poverty is everywhere in this globe. Use your brains to think if you have any. Dont use your ass to think.
Why not B1B lancers. I mean US is offering those. It's totally unwise to buy Russian hardware given current situation since acquiring spares for these will become a headache
India's air force and U.S air force are neck to neck. But it's not what you think. 27th February U.S started - Black Hawk helicopter crashes on Alabama highway during a flight-training mission, killing all onboard 17th March India responded - Two pilots killed after Army’s Cheetah helicopter crashes near Arunachal’s 29th March - USA responded - Nine soldiers died after two Blackhawk helicopters from Fort Campbell crashed in Kentucky 23rd April - USA again started - US Army helicopters crash in Alaska, killing 3 soldiers 4th May - India gave a befitting reply - Indian Army chopper with 3 onboard crashes in Jammu and Kashmir's Kishtwar district 5th May - USA responded to that reply - U.S F-16 downed near North Korea 8th May - India's counters back with - IAF's flying coffin MiG-21 crashes near Hanumangarh in Rajasthan; three killed.
@Eshwesha Shawn idiot 🤣, crash reports dont come easily outside of china, as per your logic if india lost 8937 mig 21s imagine china must have lost least 800 of their j8 🤣
Once Russia is defeated soon enough, we'll watch the Indians come crawling back. Also worth pointing out that once China attacks India, the west will stay neutral. Although we may still buy Chinese goods :~)
You do understand that its a design from 1981 and not being build anymore for about 15 years, only 36 where ever build (yes for there time they was great aircraft but also become completly obsolete for this era)
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8 December 2021, an Indian helicopter carrying lndia's most senior commander as well as many of lndia's most highest ranking captains, generals, officers, chiefs, squadron leaders all onboard crashed resulting in the death of all 14 passengers. If lndia can't even guarantee their highest military commander a safe short and simple 6 minute flight, how can they possibly accomplish anything?
Yeah... I hope Chinese are not involved in that sabotage which led to a crash. By the way, In Wuhan Virus crisis how many people did Chinese communist party slaughtered who were resisting China's zero covid policy...We would never know as china is all about crushing free thinking voices.
The largest real estate scam in the world just unfolded in China. When China can't sort out such critical stuff at their own home, they shouldn't meddling in other's affairs.
Mishaps happen when machinery is involved didn't the USA astronauts get blown to shreds in their space shuttle ?? ... does that mean USA can't make reentry vehicles meant for multiple space missions. So get off the high horse and understand the basic rule of evolution, you evolve after failures... With a 30 tn debt are you saying USA is a perfect example of financial prudence ??... USA wasn't built in a day and India inspite sanctions of technology transfers is evolving on its own .... that needs resolve and self confidence Indians are proud of what they achieve with their blood and toil .. !!
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A bomber? Are you serious? If it ain't REALLY stealth, nowadays, that thing gets shot down in 5 minutes, Ok Ok, 12 minutes then, from beyond the horizon.
This is where modern long range bombers like TU 160 and b1 are far different from a B52, long range strike capability, those bombers don't need to cross the radar to engage a target due to the cruise missiles and air to ground missiles, Compared to bombs, missiles are far more lethal but not cheaper
For 0.1 percent of the US gdp, it’s doing a great job tearing down Russia. You noticed the sanctions are one sided and Russia can’t do a thing about it.
When think of pak airforce one can only think of their worlds biggest srndr in 1971. They not only sutrndrd in large amounts but their air force army Navy and para military signed instrument of surrender of pak document and then surrender large territory to India.
India should develop its nuclear potential to at least 800 nukes with the equivalent of 100 megatons of TNT. India should also develop more weapons that are non-nuclear in nature and are extremely lethal. for example-MOTHER OF ALL BOMBS AND FATHER OF ALL BOMBS. AS WELL AS MISSILES THAT CAN BE EQUIPPED WITH THIS STRENGTH TYPES OF WARHEADS.
These huge bombers don't work against a country that has a decent Air Force and air defense system, like Pakistan. India should get stealth planes like the F-35 from the US. Love from an Afghan, Jai Hind 🇮🇳❤
@@Dankseid-o1u SU-30MKI with Brahmos missiles will do an equally good job. Those huge bombers will be a waste of money. These huge bumpers only work if India achieves Air Supremacy over enemy airspace like US in Iraq in 1991.
@@Dankseid-o1u I agree with you on that. But then we are talking about smart bombs, probably laser or GPS guided, not dumb gravity bombs. Smart bombs are expensive too. If I was in charge, I would send 20 SU-30MKIs with Brahmos missiles and launch them at 50,000 feet from the LOC, Brahmos missiles can cover insane distances and they are super accurate. Tu-160 would only work in case of a war like Kargil, not if you want to hit targets in Islamabad or Lahore. Those places are highly defended.
@@Dankseid-o1u If you fire a Brahmos missile from an Su-30mki from Amritsar, it can easily hit Islamabad. So why bother buying expensive Tu-160s. I would invest that money on developing Superfast versions of Brahmas missiles, like Mach 8 speed Brahmos missile
Are strategic bombers vulnerable? Strategic Bombers: Still Relevant? In this context, bombers are vulnerable to air defense missiles, interceptor aircraft, electronic warfare, and even electromagnetic pulse bursts; this raises questions about their capability to reach well-defended targets in the current age of high-performance air-defence systems.. These can be shot down much before a bomber reaches strategic location.
Bombers also act as missile carriers, which india needs since the Su-30 and Tajas can't carry more then one. Second, they can be launched from a safe distance before coming into the enemie's missile range, i.e it can safely launch the missile without entering enemy airspace
Good commentary. The problem with procuring defence gear from abroad is always fraught with uncertainty. India must stop looking at Russia with the cold war era affection and adopt a more practical and.pragmatic approach towards that country. That doesn't mean cold shouldering Russia like the anglo saxons have been prodding us to do. Far from that, India should have the best of relations with Russia but stop short of pandering to each and every thing Russian. It needs to be noted that today's Russia also doesn't consider India a top priority in her foreign policy matters. Today's Russia is too closely aligned with China and too much interested in befriending Pakistan (possibly with Chinese nudging) much to India's indignation. Today's Russia is just playacting its strategic role with India and there simply isn't much either country can do about this state of affairs in our relationship. So, the TU Tupolev deal doesn't look like it is going to take off anytime soon. India must invest more on indigenisation of defence equipment and ordinance to the extent possible.
You're wasting your money by buying military equipments from Russia, my advice is that you need to change and buy what we call quality but not quantity, and I believe that you know where to find the quality equipments. I love you India and God bless you 🙏
Good luck buying Soviet antique. The American B-1B is capable of flying low to evade radar and surface to air missiles. Your Tu 160 will be shot down by Chinese air defense.
😂😂😂😂😂 lower flying without being detected 😂😂😂😂 the same they are claiming, until they got down in servia, by old Soviet S200 😂😂😂😂😂 US made weapons are more propagandist than efficient in real battlefield, they control media propagandist narratives, that is all .
But the US defense products comes with a lot of conditions. these are meant to protect only american interests with Indian money. India would not have the freedom to use them the way India deems it fit.
@@sapienbrain8120 Duhh. The f-117 in serbia are not designed to fly low. It depends on its stealth. B-1B is not stealth but it can hide. Compare that to Tu 160 which is a big target in the sky. 😂🤣😂
Namaskar Prends 🙏🙏 Karnataka Dalit man assaulted after he overtakes upper caste men on motorcycle; later ends life due to his humiliation. Please campaign for Dalit rights. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Definately !! We do have need for these bombers, with our jet squadrons ageing up. And not many fighters to strike deep lying enemy targets, these bombers would be of great importance, not only for entering enemy territory but also because of the amount of missiles it can carry alone in a single flight. We definately should have multiple squadrons of these kinda bombers, be it of any origin tbh 🤞🏽
We need bombers like the tu 160 with long range missions and abilities of carrying cruise missils for we lack a bomber squadron after the retirement of Canberra.
I think India should have this Soviet bomber because it is cheep, reliable and quite more superior than B 52 or B 51. Also it can be modernized with stealth electronic and other defensive technologies all India made. But problem is with unreliable dependence: that Russia, prior delivery, it may installed within its frame self destructive device and disintegrate it, when needed. Also ex agents of CIA within Russia will attempt to do as same, while working for the U.S military air-force contractor. U.S also wants for their partners to have less advance technology and will sabotage or restrict for these partners to have whatever advance or just better items: for example: formal Czechoslovakian Tamara Radar, upon minor adjustments, it is able to see all of stealth technologies and president Clinton made sure that factories within Czech Rep. were shot down and lot of people lost their jobs. No country should be oppressed this way and then call it them NATO partners. And there is more to this Jerk factors.... How many of people are in India? Do you remember what happened to Czechoslovakia in 1938 Munich agreement? Anglo=American pact, or Russian, or Chinese, they cannot be trusted. Not when you are talking about defense and security of so many of people of free India. Also: do you know what is genocidal war? No? Ask Ukrainians.
For the US, in the long term India could pose challenges in world business order, key decisions etc because of its independence approach. US wants India to be a Market place only. Not a technology producer or maker. US wants India to depend on them. Hence, India should balance both US, Russia, France and other countries in terms of defence planning.
1.4 billion people still cannot make their own bomber.
By Russia junk🤣
India the emperor with no cloths. .. india eyes on "strategic Bomber" , "strategic ship" .. you name it. .. but that's about it. .. india always lives in present tense. .. you never heard that lndia has accomplished anything they always either "eyes" or "is eying" ... to be .. what??!! .. SUPA' POWER:2020??!!🤣🤣
What defence plan? You all said Ukraine should surrender, so I would assume you would do the same. But don’t worry, we will abstain.
@@akhanddbangladesh8274 Who is talking? What you know about india. You must be a Jihadi or CCP useless begger
Yes! India should definitely go for a strategic bomber squadron. What with mean neighbors all around us. Jai Hind 🇮🇳
Your neighbours'feelings are mutual. Mean and belligerent India is no good for peace as it would invite American werewolves to foment more strife and discord .
Big LoL
India has no need for strategic bombers...all our enemies are at arms length
@@rasputin774
It's important for indian navy
Where is india bomber??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes! India should either acquire or co-produce newly built Tu 160 and Tu 22 with Indian electronics.
Yes the electronic warfare suite should be indigenously made for better interoperability.
India should acquire tu 160 but with better engines. Indigenously built engines
Tu 22 enough..
It's India's decision, a sovereign country, developing their own defence capabilities.
yes it is only tu-160 is a obsolete bomber
@@Noodleanrgry bro needs a functioning brain
@@Noodleanrgry how many countries actually built this kind of bomber,
Obsolete technology means what, you might using new technology, old technology is also good,
There is no obsolete technology,
@@Noodleanrgry Are you out of your mind?? That thing can bring the entire EU to its feet
@@rakesharamaiah2737 there is no time to build a new bomber for india but in my opinion india should go for b 1 lancers cuz Russia is still recovering from the war and is quite a bit behind in the arms race these days , we should make allies with US as there is some increasing heat between US and china which will benifit us (enemies enemy is our friend). i m not telling to throw russia fully off but in times of war they are not able to give parts and components for the IAF. we should always keep a big boi behind our back at all times like we kept russia these years
The US is with India for its interest whereas Russia has been by our side the whole time when we needed them so it's better to go with Russia than the US
Compared to USA, the 🇷🇺federation has a common fear along with India, and it's China. Pakistan is not of a great deal for a combined arms operation with India. Whereas USA seeks opportunity to install new bases in India, have a certain control over political decisions, were Russia doesn't want to interfere because it's not their matter
If India want buy Tu-160 can’t low loop in skirmishes.. China easy Radar detect track Tu-160 very loud engine than B-1 lancer very low and low loop.. China hard detect track B-1 very low loop Stealth mask..
@Pauriagum What Russia are you talking about? It is the USSR who saved you in 1971 and the leader was Ukrainian Leonid Brezhnev. Why are indians cheering when russia is killing Ukrainians?
You clearly know not all details ? russia never have bin India's friend. same for Russia india is just a market with easy acces as they could not get Western weapons in past. BTW now India is dropping almost all russian made weapond and buying Western Kit (more reliable and of better quality)
At the end of the day, India will have India's interests, even if it means turning on Russia. What India needs to understand is that the U.S has no friends, only vassal states.
As lndia is currently building it's indigeneous Nuclear powered SSN & SSBN Submarines to acquire lethal underwater sea power, it's a strategic move to also acquire lethal air power by having it's own long range strategic power. India has a victorious, professional & battle-hardened army has shown in all it's previous wars & recently in Galwan whereby 60-70 invading chinese soldiers were butchered in face to face & hand to hand combat whereas lndia's casualties was due to coward ambush on them under the cover of darkness plus slipped & fall down the slopes. With the lethal weapons & assets, the lndian Army shall cement their might further.
Those little Chinese 🐒 are no match to the tough Sikh Indians. Jai Hind 🇮🇳❤🙏 Love from An Afghan
@John Turner what please..
Lol.
Oh you were there and saw what happened? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@İbrahim Moncada Ukraine hit one with a 1000 dollar drone.
The US wants India to be weak. However, India deserves to be strong and well represented both diplomatically and militarilly by the UNSC permanent member seat and a fully developed nuclear triad including long-range strategic aviation. No doubt Tu-160 is the right choice!
Go with Russia and you will be like them 🤣🇺🇸
@@UncleTonyshotsauce Yeap, you've hit that man! Go with Russia to be treated as an equal! Go with America and you'll never be like them. They will always see you as their servant or worse as a slave.
Go with Russia and you'll find yourself in a very small very weak alliance with a nation that likes to try and throw what little weight it has left around. It kicks off and your axis powers 2 but much weaker than the originals
@@ricardosmythe2548 The Axis Powers 2.0 is the US with its dependencies like Germania (aka the EU) and the exEmpire (soon to be the Kingdom of England only following the Irish reunification and Scotland independence)... Imho I can't see any banks crashing anywhere else than in the US...
@@petrsovicka the west is overwhelmingly more powerful than any alliance that could be formed against it. Its not even close. NI and Scotland will remain a part if the UK. I take it your not up to date on news regarding the Scottish nationalist party 🤣
Problem with western defence equipments, especially US, is that they come with a lot of terms and conditions, then Pentagon decides where and against whom they are being used for, even when you purchase it in full price.
India is a sovereign state and they could pursue any military relationship and procure hardware from whoever they want. The US needs to understand that...
India is a giant 3rd world country with delusions of grandeur.
Yes,! India should have strategic bomber, to counter enemies 💪
I would like Indian Navy to have these as a cruise missile carrier. A single bomber of this kind is more powerful than any frigate that Indian Navy has. Moreover it can fly beyond Mach 2.
Large Aircraft carrying capability from a Naval Carrier is challenging.
@@shirkedance these can be operated from the shores like P8i
@@shirkedance
There are many aircraft carrier killer balastic missiles
Also India's smart torpedoes are game changer in case of a carrier group attack
Yes, India must have all the formidable weapon systems.
It isn't about entering enemy airspace. It's about carrying enough long range missiles to a place from where they can hit areas of great importance to the enemy. Like, the Chinese heartland on the SE coast. And of course, covering the entire Indian Ocean, so now Chinese Navy fleet would dare enter. Yes..we definitely need a squadron!
Based the squadron off of andaman and nicobar islands lol
India would have to pay Chinese Yuan to Russia said no more junk Rupees..
@@jimmylam9846 cry more
@@jimmylam9846India's exports to Russia also increasing so russia will not hesitate to take indian ruppes
@@jimmylam9846Indians are now using a different approach to make deals with Russia instead of giving money we make defence deals. We recently export some indigenously made fighter ships to Russia for the exchange of a military weapons deal
yes for self defense and protect the country JAI HIND
@VoltarStarman toilet will be build with the saved money i think india has to dump american weapons and buy cheap russian as india have to build toilets
This is a good idea however India 🇮🇳 must take decision very seriously and spend a lot and wisely this could be a game changer in a war may India get the best and a lot of them
India must be aatmanirbhar in every sphere of defence . Till then what is our immediate need to win a war must be procured . Both short term and long term needs .
It is a good idea to have 3 squadrons of TU-160 - one in the East, one in the west and one in the South - all adapted for the needs of the region, including fast mobilised convoys while the squadron in the South is modified for destroying warships and air craft carriers.
However, T-160 must fit into a more modern scenario wherein the squadrons are supported by long range missiles that can reach targets intended for T-160.
Missiles can be modified for live relay of images to command centers with capability to reprogram these missiles to circle and strike targets from behind enemy lines ahead of T-160 take off.
It's managing resources, we need to acquire 114 Rafales(24 for Navy), additional 50 mk1a, Then AMCA, with an eye to replace, migs, jaguar mirages, so 1squardrons like mig25 will serve the purpose.
@@aelredsaizar7976nice joke 114 rafale overly priced jets 🤦🏽♂️ why not the foldable FA 18 block 3 I don't think the MK1A will have any use instead of just defence AMCA will take 200 million years for its first flight 🤷🏽♂️
Lot of Talk. Usual Desi habit. First learn how to stop shooting down your own choppers. So called surgical strike was abject failure and an embarrassment.
@@AG-dk6qb cope harder dumbo
Yes, India has a right to must defend its national strategic interests.
Definitely India must opt for strategic bombers as far as US B1 lancer is being concerned it's much costlier than Tu-160 and it has less range than Russian one as per India's requirement for two front war India can opt for Russia one but the deal must be considered or proceed under the test and trails
Well you have Russian tanks because they are cheap, so I guess you should go for cheap airplanes too. They may be crap but cheap is good.
@@ThePedroski007 if you are so reluctant to give weapons to India just slash their cost by 30 percent otherwise just keep mum. One month before your hypersonic Missile program failed ya that's cheapness you mentioned. Multiple HIMARS destroyed in Ukraine ya that's cheapness. We will buy weapons from any country Russia Israel Korea France as per our own convenience you wouldn't have to worry. Having weapons doesn't means that you are superpower unless and until you don't know how to use it and which weapon to use it in which situation. It's better to keep your advice with you. Thanks
@@suryaprasanth9105 wow, Ukraine is still struggling to contain the second army in the world? Imagine that. Anyway, at least they are winning.
I'd nato goes full scale then Russia use poseidon, tsar bomba.. This is the best way to weak Russia and eliminate..Strategically nato play a game.. Zelenesky is the puppet.. Russian leader also saying this🤔🤔
@@s.d.jayasundara5319 lol, nato haven’t even put their boots on yet. Ukraine are winning so keep supporting the loser, loser.
Yes , Offcourse, As an Indian we want to see , we have Bomber
It is not what the us thinks India should do. It is rather what India thinks it needs that only matters.
JAI HIND 🇮🇳
Go with Russia please 🤣🇺🇸
Yes we need
India must have a squadron of long-distance bombers to support large-scale targeted aerial bombings.
Aum.India ...
Yes yes Magic magic..
You must and you will ..move in this direction ...
It's a must for our Great Country. Good choice,right choice n super choice.
It is very much necessary to have heavy bombers. It can make crippling damage to enemies target with help of flankers.
Flankers 🤦🏽♂️🤣 Who can't even lock a single paki jet in 2019 btw I'm indian paki mat bol dena 😂
We need it 🙏
better buy other T160 is aobsolete bomber and can no longer be build. russia will sell only refurbished models from aging stocks
For sure India should have the Stratgeic bombers so that Bharath will have an edge over the other two rivals and the superiority of the bombers gives more advantages to our tri forces.
For Any strong country self-relying capabilities are far more important than allied trust in diplomacy
I think India was already deal with Russia for "white swan" strategic bomber aircraft to counter Pakistan and mainly to "china" and as well as "to maintain India's dominance in the world".😎💪🇮🇳🤝🇷🇺✈️
Any proud country with a dream of being recognised as a global leader and a super power needs an arsenal that can project massive firepower even a long distance away. Proliferation and such technological restrictions laws are the last of apartheid kind of laws that are left. And the moment west understands this, India will become an unbreakable ally.
But I am sure that they won't.
India should have everything
It's genuinely required.
B1 is more modern but it comes in with an unreliable supplier. Tu-160 is older but comes in with a reliable supplier. Lets see what the IAF thinks.
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INDIA shoud go for the Russian Tu160 Bomber. India has excellent relationship with Russis and US has has recently suppplied F16s to Pakistan and has yet to prove they are there with India in thick and thin despite the talks.
White Swan ❤
More like white duck goose 🤣🇺🇸
@@UncleTonyshotsauce that's B2 🤣🤣🤣
Iran also needs this bomber against israeli and american threat
US machines are damn expensive. Why would we go with that? They can suck their thumb if they aren’t pleased with us deciding what’s good for us.
Because it's the best 🇺🇸
Stick with Russia 🤣
@@UncleTonyshotsauce US made machines might be or might not be better than Russian made. We ain't fighting Russia or America. And China is the only country we need to be prepared for. So strategically and economically Russian made works for us.
Also US has at many a times denied weapons to India and chose to make deals with our neighbouring terrorist nation. You know the country that was harbouring the guy that bombed America's twin towers.
@@paul_jmr8022 Hmm the bubbles people live in!!
@@UncleTonyshotsauce
Still failed in Vietnam and Afghanistan😢
As an American , I welcome India buying this bomber. So long, as you show it off at an airshow and I can get a selfie of me next to the white swan in Indian markings :)
Maybe Tu-22M3M is a better choice for India with Brahmos 2 as main standoff weapon.
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Long time since India had bombers. in fact, India should start building its own Bomber prototype asap. If we can send rocket to market, we can certainly build a bomber. Only thing that holds us back is political will. There is no dearth of talent.
How about feeding their people first?
@@chris_anon88 Just because there is poverty doesnt mean people dont get to eat. Poverty is everywhere in this globe. Use your brains to think if you have any. Dont use your ass to think.
@@chris_anon88 our people are well fed , what are u talking about?
@@chris_anon88 how about you feed your people first?
@@chris_anon88how about keep your mouth shut ,and find your identity
Why not!!
Sure, we need it very badly.
India 🇮🇳 keep moving
Why not B1B lancers. I mean US is offering those. It's totally unwise to buy Russian hardware given current situation since acquiring spares for these will become a headache
US is not trust worthy,
They don't give integrate our missile,
Our Bramhos missile made with Russia, how can we integrate with B1 bomber
Coz The US isn't trustable at all at any cost they just betray using some pathetic tricks up their sleeves
Great to have a white sworn ❤ rather than a Western headache
India's air force and U.S air force are neck to neck. But it's not what you think.
27th February U.S started - Black Hawk helicopter crashes on Alabama highway during a flight-training mission, killing all onboard
17th March India responded - Two pilots killed after Army’s Cheetah helicopter crashes near Arunachal’s
29th March - USA responded - Nine soldiers died after two Blackhawk helicopters from Fort Campbell crashed in Kentucky
23rd April - USA again started - US Army helicopters crash in Alaska, killing 3 soldiers
4th May - India gave a befitting reply - Indian Army chopper with 3 onboard crashes in Jammu and Kashmir's Kishtwar district
5th May - USA responded to that reply - U.S F-16 downed near North Korea
8th May - India's counters back with - IAF's flying coffin MiG-21 crashes near Hanumangarh in Rajasthan; three killed.
Last time i checked, China holds the monopoly in driving battle tanks over their own citizens packed in a square. Self goal 101.
What about 700 crashed J8 ? Wonder how many pilots have died, these jets are still in use and many even dont have ejection seats
@Eshwesha Shawn so your high on something, i dont remember India even operated more than 500 of mig 21 s
@Eshwesha Shawn idiot 🤣, crash reports dont come easily outside of china, as per your logic if india lost 8937 mig 21s imagine china must have lost least 800 of their j8 🤣
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Yes, we must have them
Russian is the way 💪💪💪
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Modi no more friend with Putin no longer..
Once Russia is defeated soon enough, we'll watch the Indians come crawling back. Also worth
pointing out that once China attacks India, the west will stay neutral. Although we may still buy Chinese goods :~)
Go with the weak Russians 🤣
@@UncleTonyshotsauce
Say Hello to russian zerkon and khinjell missiles😂
You do understand that its a design from 1981 and not being build anymore for about 15 years, only 36 where ever build (yes for there time they was great aircraft but also become completly obsolete for this era)
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Yes An airforce bomber squad for India is realy a great magic
Russian Tupolev 160 is a more potent Aircraft. And Vladimir Putin seems a Man without Duplicitous Attitudes, when it comes to Friends. Go for it.
Guys, i think for china&pak our ballistic or cruise missiles would be enough.
8 December 2021, an Indian helicopter carrying lndia's most senior commander as well as many of lndia's most highest ranking captains, generals, officers, chiefs, squadron leaders all onboard crashed resulting in the death of all 14 passengers. If lndia can't even guarantee their highest military commander a safe short and simple 6 minute flight, how can they possibly accomplish anything?
Yeah... I hope Chinese are not involved in that sabotage which led to a crash. By the way, In Wuhan Virus crisis how many people did Chinese communist party slaughtered who were resisting China's zero covid policy...We would never know as china is all about crushing free thinking voices.
The largest real estate scam in the world just unfolded in China. When China can't sort out such critical stuff at their own home, they shouldn't meddling in other's affairs.
Mishaps happen when machinery is involved didn't the USA astronauts get blown to shreds in their space shuttle ?? ... does that mean USA can't make reentry vehicles meant for multiple space missions.
So get off the high horse and understand the basic rule of evolution, you evolve after failures...
With a 30 tn debt are you saying USA is a perfect example of financial prudence ??...
USA wasn't built in a day and India inspite sanctions of technology transfers is evolving on its own .... that needs resolve and self confidence
Indians are proud of what they achieve with their blood and toil .. !!
Yes, India should have it. Stability is must for India to grow economically and business will happen smoothly if India grows it military power.
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Absolutely... It goes without saying or any doubt that india should have bomber squadrons as well as missile force in its arsenal.
Russia makes beautiful aircraft. The White Swan is no exception.
Yes, India certainly needs a strategic bomber squadron. Jai Hind
A bomber? Are you serious? If it ain't REALLY stealth, nowadays, that thing gets shot down in 5 minutes, Ok Ok, 12 minutes then, from beyond the horizon.
Go back to your room and sleep again.
Go back to your room and sleep again.
Bombers are stupid, but if you have them in numbers, you have a slight edge.
@@karthikdevanahallistop playing war thunder and read some wikipedia
This is where modern long range bombers like TU 160 and b1 are far different from a B52, long range strike capability, those bombers don't need to cross the radar to engage a target due to the cruise missiles and air to ground missiles, Compared to bombs, missiles are far more lethal but not cheaper
Yes no doubt not only bombers but also aircraft carrier of 1 lac + DWT. Jai Hind
Saying America can destroy Russia is like saying Ukraine a sovereign country 😂😂
American can destroy Russia 100 times without them destroying a single US city, wakeup call needed badly
Very true!!
So you're saying Russia can destroy America??🤣
Russia is in self-destruct mode.
For 0.1 percent of the US gdp, it’s doing a great job tearing down Russia. You noticed the sanctions are one sided and Russia can’t do a thing about it.
Maintenance cost is very very high for this type of bomber and also it's cost is high.
When people think of the Indian air force. The first thing that comes to their mind is Bipin falling out of a helicopter.
When people think of Chinese airforce.The first thing that comes to their mind is the KJ-200 landing on a hill side with a splendid splash.
No it never came to our mind.
When think of pak airforce one can only think of their worlds biggest srndr in 1971. They not only sutrndrd in large amounts but their air force army Navy and para military signed instrument of surrender of pak document and then surrender large territory to India.
It is time for India to stretch out its muscles especially in the IOR and Indo-Pacific
India should develop its nuclear potential to at least 800 nukes with the equivalent of 100 megatons of TNT. India should also develop more weapons that are non-nuclear in nature and are extremely lethal. for example-MOTHER OF ALL BOMBS AND FATHER OF ALL BOMBS. AS WELL AS MISSILES THAT CAN BE EQUIPPED WITH THIS STRENGTH TYPES OF WARHEADS.
These huge bombers don't work against a country that has a decent Air Force and air defense system, like Pakistan. India should get stealth planes like the F-35 from the US. Love from an Afghan, Jai Hind 🇮🇳❤
Those Bombers can drop bombs over Indian Air Space while the trajectory and gravitational pull will ensure they drop on pakistani targets
@@Dankseid-o1u SU-30MKI with Brahmos missiles will do an equally good job. Those huge bombers will be a waste of money. These huge bumpers only work if India achieves Air Supremacy over enemy airspace like US in Iraq in 1991.
@@dawood2u Brahmos missiles are incredibly expensive, the cost of 1 missile can get you several dozen bombs.
@@Dankseid-o1u I agree with you on that. But then we are talking about smart bombs, probably laser or GPS guided, not dumb gravity bombs. Smart bombs are expensive too. If I was in charge, I would send 20 SU-30MKIs with Brahmos missiles and launch them at 50,000 feet from the LOC, Brahmos missiles can cover insane distances and they are super accurate. Tu-160 would only work in case of a war like Kargil, not if you want to hit targets in Islamabad or Lahore. Those places are highly defended.
@@Dankseid-o1u If you fire a Brahmos missile from an Su-30mki from Amritsar, it can easily hit Islamabad. So why bother buying expensive Tu-160s. I would invest that money on developing Superfast versions of Brahmas missiles, like Mach 8 speed Brahmos missile
Ofcourse India must have strategic bomber in its inventory which helps us to safe guard Indian Ocean and north eastern border
Are strategic bombers vulnerable?
Strategic Bombers: Still Relevant?
In this context, bombers are vulnerable to air defense missiles, interceptor aircraft, electronic warfare, and even electromagnetic pulse bursts; this raises questions about their capability to reach well-defended targets in the current age of high-performance air-defence systems..
These can be shot down much before a bomber reaches strategic location.
Bombers also act as missile carriers, which india needs since the Su-30 and Tajas can't carry more then one. Second, they can be launched from a safe distance before coming into the enemie's missile range, i.e it can safely launch the missile without entering enemy airspace
@@bhishmaMbt That even Sukhois and Tejas can do, in a more effective way....
The only point can be amount of arsenal.
@@mannsinghs they can carry only one missile, bombers like the Tu-160 can carry multiple
Yes we want atleast 1😊🎉❤
Good commentary.
The problem with procuring defence gear from abroad is always fraught with uncertainty. India must stop looking at Russia with the cold war era affection and adopt a more practical and.pragmatic approach towards that country.
That doesn't mean cold shouldering Russia like the anglo saxons have been prodding us to do. Far from that, India should have the best of relations with Russia but stop short of pandering to each and every thing Russian.
It needs to be noted that today's Russia also doesn't consider India a top priority in her foreign policy matters. Today's Russia is too closely aligned with China and too much interested in befriending Pakistan (possibly with Chinese nudging) much to India's indignation.
Today's Russia is just playacting its strategic role with India and there simply isn't much either country can do about this state of affairs in our relationship.
So, the TU Tupolev deal doesn't look like it is going to take off anytime soon. India must invest more on indigenisation of defence equipment and ordinance to the extent possible.
You should be a double agent. Let us betray both Russia and America, that way we’ll be right half the time.
You're wasting your money by buying military equipments from Russia, my advice is that you need to change and buy what we call quality but not quantity, and I believe that you know where to find the quality equipments. I love you India and God bless you 🙏
It’s crazy that Russia has also these advanced weapons but yet they haven’t even used them
It's called Restraint
Former sukhoi worker steal blueprint TU-160 escape to Mexico into Texas..
It can help India 🇮🇳 to projects his powers beyond his borders or eez
2:20 f16 free package to Pakistan and lecture for india.
India has a 5th super power in the world
Now that's Top Gun
Russia wont give them,it needs for Kyev republic and the whole NATO
Good luck buying Soviet antique. The American B-1B is capable of flying low to evade radar and surface to air missiles. Your Tu 160 will be shot down by Chinese air defense.
😂😂😂😂😂 lower flying without being detected 😂😂😂😂 the same they are claiming, until they got down in servia, by old Soviet S200 😂😂😂😂😂 US made weapons are more propagandist than efficient in real battlefield, they control media propagandist narratives, that is all .
f-16 got shot down by north korea a few day ago.
But the US defense products comes with a lot of conditions. these are meant to protect only american interests with Indian money. India would not have the freedom to use them the way India deems it fit.
@@Radio9730killer Antique collector. 😂
@@sapienbrain8120 Duhh. The f-117 in serbia are not designed to fly low. It depends on its stealth. B-1B is not stealth but it can hide. Compare that to Tu 160 which is a big target in the sky. 😂🤣😂
Yes absolutely, every tools at it's disposal.
Namaskar Prends 🙏🙏
Karnataka Dalit man assaulted after he overtakes upper caste men on motorcycle; later ends life due to his humiliation.
Please campaign for Dalit rights. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Name a right(s) that the beloved Dalits doesn't have and i will fight for it/them.
Sry, Karnataka does not do such things.
Get a life. Stop spreading misinformation.
Stop misleading
I'm a dalit myself but never got assaulted by any Brahmin or rajput
It was prevalent in 1950s not today's modern india
Then let India get Russian equipment but stay out of western markets.
Yes, India should definitely go for a strategic bomber squadron !!
Definately !! We do have need for these bombers, with our jet squadrons ageing up. And not many fighters to strike deep lying enemy targets, these bombers would be of great importance, not only for entering enemy territory but also because of the amount of missiles it can carry alone in a single flight. We definately should have multiple squadrons of these kinda bombers, be it of any origin tbh 🤞🏽
We need bombers like the tu 160 with long range missions and abilities of carrying cruise missils for we lack a bomber squadron after the retirement of Canberra.
Definitely, india should have 🎉
Absolutely. Immediate requirement
Yes India Should have...that Strategic bomber....
Yes ! We must have one squadron of bomber ! Canberra bomer is very much older bomber which was INDIA using ! TU 160 is the best option !
Yes definitely we need it. To strengthen our forces.
yes INDIA should and must have the all advanced weapons,bombers , and ammunitions
Good thought....
Initiative this plan...as soon
I think India should have this Soviet bomber because it is cheep, reliable and quite more superior than B 52 or B 51. Also it can be modernized with stealth electronic and other defensive technologies all India made. But problem is with unreliable dependence: that Russia, prior delivery, it may installed within its frame self destructive device and disintegrate it, when needed. Also ex agents of CIA within Russia will attempt to do as same, while working for the U.S military air-force contractor. U.S also wants for their partners to have less advance technology and will sabotage or restrict for these partners to have whatever advance or just better items: for example: formal Czechoslovakian Tamara Radar, upon minor adjustments, it is able to see all of stealth technologies and president Clinton made sure that factories within Czech Rep. were shot down and lot of people lost their jobs. No country should be oppressed this way and then call it them NATO partners. And there is more to this Jerk factors....
How many of people are in India? Do you remember what happened to Czechoslovakia in 1938 Munich agreement? Anglo=American pact, or Russian, or Chinese, they cannot be trusted. Not when you are talking about defense and security of so many of people of free India. Also: do you know what is genocidal war? No? Ask Ukrainians.
India has got such a peaceful neighbourhood
listening that for 10 years. 😀. but India needs bomber for navy for sure.
Yes Bharat must have strategic Bomber
Indeed 👍
Before we focus on strategic bomber, IAF should get AMCA deal complete. Replace remaining four squadrons of MIG 21.
Yes surely india must have such a squad.
I don't see any military confrontation between parkistan or China anytime soon